A question about a fresh server?

[JacWhisper]

I read somewhere that you guys were going to open a new server once the velious thing happened. I was not able to join P1999 when this originally started, so I didn't hop in, because it's later, and everything's already been done with people just waiting for Vel now.

Will there be a brand new server anytime soon, or at all? I play several different games with a cross-guild, about 34 of us altogether who are interested in this.

I would very much appreciate an answer in any way/shape/form. Thank you for reading.

[loramin]

so I didn't hop in, because it's later, and everything's already been done with people just waiting for Vel now.

There is nothing whatsoever stopping you from having fun on the current server. Nothing ... unless you just can't stand the idea of other players being higher level and/or richer than you (in which case you should just give up on MMOGs, because there will always be players with more xp/loot than you, even when the server is only a day old)

Will there be a brand new server anytime soon, or at all?

Yes but not soon. If the staff doesn't change their mind (which is possible; they did it on the teams server) then a "recycle" server will start once Velious and all post-Velious patches are complete. Based on the dev team's past speed, that will be (at least) two years from now.

So don't wait, just start having fun on Blue (or Red, if that's your thing) now!

[Tankdan]

New server wont be for years.

[tizznyres]

Nilbog stated during the Velious release announcement that they planned to do new "recycling" servers once Velious had been active for a period of time.

The exact time that will pass before they start these recycling servers is pure speculation unless I missed another announcement. It could be several months, it could be years.

From what I gathered during the Velious stream, this recycling server will start fresh, follow a much reduced (more accurate) expansion release schedule, and then eventually merge back into the main Blue server. Once this occurs, the cycle would start again, and another fresh recycle server would start.

So not exactly a new permanent server, and no exact date when this might occur.

[Crawdad]

There are tons of lowbies/newbies in most zones thanks to Daybreak giving us the official seal of approval, so now's a great time to get started. The servers very top heavy, so you guys might have a hard time once you get to raiding levels.. but in the meantime that means tons of cheap mid/high level gear.

While things are at double XP (very rarely happens) expect craziness, though.

[Swish]

Starting a new server would kill this one, wouldn't it?

Discuss.

[feanan]

Starting a new server would kill this one, wouldn't it?

Discuss.

There could be 4 blue servers, and each and every one of them would still have a higher population than Red.

Discuss.

[tizznyres]

Starting a new server would kill this one, wouldn't it?

Discuss.

Kill? Almost certainly not.

Dramatically reduce the population at all hours? Almost certainly so.

The server would be perfectly healthy with half the concurrent users daily, and the population is growing in anticipation for Velious, and will likely be much much higher once Velious releases.

A new server would have no real raid scene for weeks or months, and even when it became a thing we're talking base vanilla bosses for a long time.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

go to the main page and look at the timeline this server has followed before you start in your head about how this project works.

we move slooooooow here (http://wiki.project1999.com/Players:EQLive_Timeline)

So, yes, there probably be another server experiment someday. I would guess probably around 2017 at earliest, and that's if the p99 team gets feisty.

play it as is. it's a fun game. this server is as close as a sandbox as possible. there is no race. things move very slow here, and imo, that is a huge plus.

[tizznyres]

go to the main page and look at the timeline this server has followed before you start in your head about how this project works.

we move slooooooow here (http://wiki.project1999.com/Players:EQLive_Timeline)

So, yes, there probably be another server experiment someday. I would guess probably around 2017 at earliest, and that's if the p99 team gets feisty.

play it as is. it's a fun game. this server is as close as a sandbox as possible. there is no race. things move very slow here, and imo, that is a huge plus.

A historical timeline of this server should really be taken with a grain of salt. A lot of people love to throw around completely arbitrary numbers as to when a new server may start. The fact is, until they give us an official announcement, it's pure speculation.

What has been stated recently, is that Nilbog intends to run recycling servers sometime after Velious has been established.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

A historical timeline of this server should really be taken with a grain of salt. A lot of people love to throw around completely arbitrary numbers as to when a new server may start. The fact is, until they give us an official announcement, it's pure speculation.

What has been stated recently, is that Nilbog intends to run recycling servers sometime after Velious has been established.

Arbitrary?

Those are the actual timeline dates this server has followed. They are not arbitrary.

Pure speculation?

You mean, just pulling an idea out of one's ass? No, those dates indicate a trend, approach, and pace. The past does not necessarily predict the future, but it does allow for statements of likelihood.

Let me add some more strength to my "pure speculation". This is a free server run by eq enthusiasts. A second server would require additional csr -- more volunteer hours. Monitoring two servers -- especially a *new* server -- would require considerable manpower resources for it to be done up to p99's standards.

People forget this is a hobbyist server. It runs on the team's spare time, volunteered. There is no incentive for a second server, except as another stage of the experiment. They have no corporate deadlines to meet, no paying customers to try to squeeze dollars from, nothing except what they find fun.

Early 2018. Count on it.

[Champion_Standing]

P99 should have 2 or 3 blue servers, one of them that automatically wipes every 6 months.

[JacWhisper]

My logic is simply this. On a new server, it's all fresh people, fresh levelers. The world quickly spaces itself out into casuals, semi-casuals, semi-serious, and hardcores. I myself float between those categories. But the one thing that is not set on a fresh server is an economy.

Everyone needs to farm plat. Everyone needs to farm items. Everyone starts at zero.

There are no established guilds with power. There are no established cliques of campers. It's all new.


All these things WILL eventually present themselves, but I want to be part of the community before that happens, because if I come after it happens, after everything is established and set in pixel stone, then I end up playing catchup with the group of friends and family that want to play with me.

Just my two cents. And yes, I'd play a P99 server that wipes every six months, IF you could transfer the characters off to an established server when the wipe was coming. It would be a great thing for a new set of players. It'd be a separate economy, a separate environment for them to grow and level and play in before walking onto an established server.

[tizznyres]

Arbitrary?

Those are the actual timeline dates this server has followed. They are not arbitrary.

Pure speculation?

You mean, just pulling an idea out of one's ass? No, those dates indicate a trend, approach, and pace. The past does not necessarily predict the future, but it does allow for statements of likelihood.

Let me add some more strength to my "pure speculation". This is a free server run by eq enthusiasts. A second server would require additional csr -- more volunteer hours. Monitoring two servers -- especially a *new* server -- would require considerable manpower resources for it to be done up to p99's standards.

People forget this is a hobbyist server. It runs on the team's spare time, volunteered. There is no incentive for a second server, except as another stage of the experiment. They have no corporate deadlines to meet, no paying customers to try to squeeze dollars from, nothing except what they find fun.

Early 2018. Count on it.

Feel free to speculate all you want. But let me add some of my own speculation:

The younger years of P99 involved much more of a learning curve in terms of development and patching for the dev team, and it took years for it to grow to the size and popularity it is now. Furthermore, the open desire for a new server from the playerbase is greater than ever, judging by the many new server request threads, such as this one.

Just about everyone I've spoken to, or read the opinions of, agrees that Kunark era lasted much longer than it should have, and I imagine the limited P99 dev team were working hard for a very long time to get Velious ready. Now that Velious development is completed, (it would have released this week if not for Daybreak's announcement), the dev team has much more time to spend on other endeavors for P99.

The two main endeavors that Nilbog mentioned were a new recycling blue server, and unique P99 content in-line with Velious era balance and lore. One has to assume that the latter of these will come much further down the line into Velious thereby allowing players to fully experience Velious. The latter of these also involves extensive design and development work to create new quality content, while adding a new blue server with a special timeline is trivial by comparison. At the same time Nilbog made these announcements, Rogean stated that the current server infrastructure is set up in preparation for expansion.

I would not presume to know when either of these might happen, but I would put my money on much, much earlier than 2018. I would also add that there is incentive for the dev team to progress P99, especially now with an official acceptance from Daybreak. This incentive may not be directly monetary, but successful experience developing and maintaining the largest classic EverQuest server is impressive and shows their practical skill and dedication to the cause, to say the least.

[JacWhisper]

Feel free to speculate all you want. But let me add some of my own speculation:

The younger years of P99 involved much more of a learning curve in terms of development and patching for the dev team, and it took years for it to grow to the size and popularity it is now. Furthermore, the open desire for a new server from the playerbase is greater than ever, judging by the many new server request threads, such as this one.

Just about everyone I've spoken to, or read the opinions of, agrees that Kunark era lasted much longer than it should have, and I imagine the limited P99 dev team were working hard for a very long time to get Velious ready. Now that Velious development is completed, (it would have released this week if not for Daybreak's announcement), the dev team has much more time to spend on other endeavors for P99.

The two main endeavors that Nilbog mentioned were a new recycling blue server, and unique P99 content in-line with Velious era balance and lore. One has to assume that the latter of these will come much further down the line into Velious thereby allowing players to fully experience Velious. The latter of these also involves extensive design and development work to create new quality content, while adding a new blue server with a special timeline is trivial by comparison. At the same time Nilbog made these announcements, Rogean stated that the current server infrastructure is set up in preparation for expansion.

I would not presume to know when either of these might happen, but I would put my money on much, much earlier than 2018. I would also add that there is incentive for the dev team to progress P99, especially now with an official acceptance from Daybreak. This incentive may not be directly monetary, but successful experience developing and maintaining the largest classic EverQuest server is impressive and shows their practical skill and dedication to the cause, to say the least.

I indeed would genuinely love a new server to start on. That's about all I have to add.

[drelk001]

There could be 4 blue servers, and each and every one of them would still have a higher population than Red.

Discuss.

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[webrunner5]

go to the main page and look at the timeline this server has followed before you start in your head about how this project works.

we move slooooooow here (http://wiki.project1999.com/Players:EQLive_Timeline)

So, yes, there probably be another server experiment someday. I would guess probably around 2017 at earliest, and that's if the p99 team gets feisty.

play it as is. it's a fun game. this server is as close as a sandbox as possible. there is no race. things move very slow here, and imo, that is a huge plus.

Sadre, you have too few o o o o o's in your line. :D

[Buellen]

why do you all need a fresh server? It always a little confusing to me when people asking for one.


A new server become flooded with plat really quidkly. From what i remember of live within 2 weeks or less people will be killing Naggy / Vox . Within a Month most of the good classic camps are perm camped if not earlier.

It is a perception problem from my point of view: People /player view a fresh as wonderful and fesh BUT it is only that for a very very very short period of time.

You can form a a small group or guild to play how a new server feels (Almost) Just stick to Original EQ content and gear. YOU can play this way here on P1999. It is not easy due to high amount of good gear from kunark available for cheap. IT a matter of how dedicated you are to this play style.

Anyhow my 2 cents.

[Jimjam]

Play off peak with a prefab group for a 'fresher' feel.

I hate to say it, but maybe even consider red.

[Champion_Standing]

why do you all need a fresh server? It always a little confusing to me when people asking for one.


A new server become flooded with plat really quidkly. From what i remember of live within 2 weeks or less people will be killing Naggy / Vox . Within a Month most of the good classic camps are perm camped if not earlier.

It is a perception problem from my point of view: People /player view a fresh as wonderful and fesh BUT it is only that for a very very very short period of time.

You can form a a small group or guild to play how a new server feels (Almost) Just stick to Original EQ content and gear. YOU can play this way here on P1999. It is not easy due to high amount of good gear from kunark available for cheap. IT a matter of how dedicated you are to this play style.

Anyhow my 2 cents.

You can definitely do something like that, but it isn't the same as being on a fresh server. For me the enjoyment is not in getting an "early start" or some kind of advantage from starting before others, if anything it takes significantly less effort to get yourself geared up on an older server. But its just the experience of being on a new server where the majority of the population is leveling and scrambling for loot that I enjoy, it just can't really be replicated in any other manner.

[myriverse]

Odd... every time I log onto P99 I see nothing but people leveling and scrambling for loot.

"Fresh" is irrelevant.

[Champion_Standing]

Irrelevant? So you are going to tell me that a players experience on P99 as it is now is exactly the same as it would be on a brand new server? Obviously wrong, but alright.

[Thulack]

why do you all need a fresh server? It always a little confusing to me when people asking for one.


A new server become flooded with plat really quidkly. From what i remember of live within 2 weeks or less people will be killing Naggy / Vox . Within a Month most of the good classic camps are perm camped if not earlier.

It is a perception problem from my point of view: People /player view a fresh as wonderful and fesh BUT it is only that for a very very very short period of time.

You can form a a small group or guild to play how a new server feels (Almost) Just stick to Original EQ content and gear. YOU can play this way here on P1999. It is not easy due to high amount of good gear from kunark available for cheap. IT a matter of how dedicated you are to this play style.

Anyhow my 2 cents.

People really want a "fresh Server where no one knows anything about the game" because thats the only way to get a true fresh classic experience. You can open as many "fresh" servers as you want but you cant wipe people's memories on how to demolish the content and shit.

[Elad]

I for one hope they add another server. Spent hours today LFG and every dungeon my level was wall to wall players and of course everything was camped to death.

[Thulack]

I for one hope they add another server. Spent hours today LFG and every dungeon my level was wall to wall players and of course everything was camped to death.

Thats because its double xp this weekend. Its not always like that.

[tizznyres]

Lots and lots of good reasons for a new blue server, and Nilbog's idea of a recycling progression server sounds pretty damn good to me. The current blue server is so over saturated with fully geared level 60's, uber-twinks rocketing through lower levels, and people with millions of plat / items that it's absurd.

Judging by Nilbog's and Rogean's comments during the Velious announcement livestream, it's all but guaranteed it will happen unless the population on blue plummets dramatically for some reason. It's just a matter of when.