Knight Hit Rate / DMG PVP

[Rexxin]

I'm concerned that the Hit rate / dmg on knights especially Paladins is off. Using an Epic Lvl 60 Pally 35/40 delay weapon, 210 Strength the paladin misses way to much and when they do connect its very poor dmg. I also know that most of the members of the community especially the ones who have started Paladins or made it to 60 can confirm and back up my findings.

I think you can also relate the fact that this server is very low population of paladins because of the coding for their Hit Ratio and DMG. Now I do not think this would be such an issue if the Paladin line of stuns snares roots etc were actually usable in pvp but they are completely useless.

Below I'm am attaching some Logs of a few skirmishes that show some proof of my request.

If anyone has anything else to add etc please do.

[Pint]

YES, please do something about this !

[Grimjaw]

SKs hit rate also sucks! Not just pallys.

[Rexxin]

SKs hit rate also sucks! Not just pallys.

I agree that's why I said Knights! I have not played an sk on this server but I would be will to bet it's very similar, although they do have one ability that lands :)

[Lime]

Does 25 2hs and 25 offense skill make that much of a difference or is the hybrid hit rate formula messed up?

[Lime]

Edit: Probably need to parse the knights hit rate and total dps compared to the pure melee hit rates/dps with similar strength/haste values over a longer period of time.

I tried looking up hit rate and I couldn't find anything on the pvp hit rate formulas, only pve hit rate formulas. I'm not sure how weapon skill, atk, strength, or dex/agi effects pvp hit rates.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-40456.html

Perhaps knight hit rate is seemingly low because the formula checks your weapon skill vs the defenders defense and base dex against defenders agility for a hit roll. Both paladin/Sk has low dex and low weapon skills, which both might be working to make knights hit rate lower.

Do shaman buffs or attacking casters over tanks (from behind) effect accuracy at all?

Need to know:
Hit rate and dps on variable ac/mitigation targets for knight and pure melee.

DPS/Hit rate on 145 defense targets (Pure Casters)
DPS/Hit rate on 200 defense targets (Priests+Ranger)
DPS/Hit rate on 252 defense targets (Monk/Rogue/bard/Tanks)
Hit rate of specials: Backstabs/kicks/slam/bash/stunkick
1h/vs2h parses for knights. Is 1h Accuracy higher?
+Dex/Agility/atk affect pvp accuracy. Parse accuracy then add 100 str/dex/agi and reparse it.

Anyways, I see alot of formulas posted for damage bonuses but not much for accuracy.

Perhaps this problem fixes itself in velious when knights get better damage tables?

[Rexxin]

Some more In game findings

[Rexxin]

I do think there needs to be more investigation into this, I would be willing to test out some scenarios if anyone is willing or able. But these logs are pretty good proof that this topic needs to be addressed

[Tapatio]

Rexxin your posting info but your not providing any relevant information for devs to research. Like maybe your stats/class, the person your fighting stats/class etc? Useless damage logs by themselves.

[Rexxin]

Like I said these are just in game scenarios, I can try to get some people to do some more controlled data.

Mainly wanted to start the thread to find out if anyone is experiencing similar results with their pal or sk.

[Technique]

Does 25 2hs and 25 offense skill make that much of a difference or is the hybrid hit rate formula messed up?Offense has no bearing on hit chance and every class uses the same function to determine it.

If the OP collected a larger sample size of swings vs. a target of known defense skill and AGI he'd find that the hit chance is pretty similar to that of a pure melee having the same STR/ATK, despite the lower weapon skill.

[Lime]

Offense has no bearing on hit chance and every class uses the same function to determine it.

If the OP collected a larger sample size of swings vs. a target of known defense skill and AGI he'd find that the hit chance is pretty similar to that of a pure melee having the same STR/ATK, despite the lower weapon skill.

Got proof?

https://www.project1999.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-40456.html

Alot of debate in the above thread with not much proof posted. I can imagine this thread will be much of the same.

Gonna be skeptical of biased opinions until I see some lengthy parses.

[Technique]

I ran parses of 2k-5k attempts in various melee configs on the beta server around 9 months ago. None of the general Velious-era melee or knight-specific buffs are in effect on beta yet, so there's no difference between an SK/Pal there and on p99 Live.

Not bothering to dig up the parses unless a dev asks for more feedback on this non-issue.

[Rexxin]

id love to see the parses, who says non issue......

[Pikrib]

Paladin stun, roots and blinds were always useless in pvp. I believe knights always kinda sucked melee wise. They get some boosts in Velious, but I don't want to do your work for you. Here are a couple examples I found int he patch notes found here: http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/19992002.php

Paladin ex's
The Paladin "Holy Forge" discipline will now give paladins triple the normal chance of scoring a critical hit. Each critical hit has a percent chance to be scored as a critical blow.

Defense skill cap made exactly same as warriors.

[Crazycloud]

Hit rate for pally/sk does seem really off. Dmg with 2hs also very garbage way too many low hit numbers with high str

[Pikrib]

I thought they add the bonus to weapons with 40+ delay in velious. U might want to look for those patch notes.

[Widan]

I ran parses of 2k-5k attempts in various melee configs on the beta server around 9 months ago. None of the general Velious-era melee or knight-specific buffs are in effect on beta yet, so there's no difference between an SK/Pal there and on p99 Live.

Not bothering to dig up the parses unless a dev asks for more feedback on this non-issue.

I don't think pvp code for /d on the beta server is the same as what's on red. Could be mistaken though.

What I mean is the beta server is just a copy of the blue server and doesn't have any of the custom red pvp code added to it for obvious reasons. The only way to parse is to get a 60 cleric or shaman on red and have a melee turn on auto attack without haste and just heal through the damage until they are oom, then med up and repeat.

[Colgate]

can confirm beta has the same pvp code as red

[Widan]

Thank you dev Colgate for your useful posts as always.

[heartbrand]

There is absolutely zero damage difference between a one hander and two hander at the moment. Equip a wurmslayer then equip a skarlon (both 25/40) and you'll see they do identical damage. I believe this is working as intended until Velious.

[Technique]

There is absolutely zero damage difference between a one hander and two hander at the moment. Equip a wurmslayer then equip a skarlon (both 25/40) and you'll see they do identical damage. I believe this is working as intended until Velious.This is untrue.

At 60, the dmg bonus on wurmslayer and all one-handers is 11. Damage bonus on skarlon sword is 18.

http://codepad.org/NjMM455H

[derpcake]

The fix for this in classic was to turn misses off.

[vouss]

I pvp on paladin often and never found myself having a lack of DPS they are fine, OP just sucks

[Rexxin]

I pvp on paladin often and never found myself having a lack of DPS they are fine, OP just sucks

Translates to. I have 5 corpsed soulfires because to kill anyone it takes all five charges by the time I get through another players hit points.

So yea Pally's fine

[Colgate]

fought vouss's paladin once and he was unable to outdamage iksar + fungi regen and plugged at 10%

[Rexxin]

fought vouss's paladin once and he was unable to outdamage iksar + fungi regen and plugged at 10%

I have experienced similar results, i guess i just suck

[Rexxin]

http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20000419.html



http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20000919.html (http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20000919.html) Damage Bonus Changes

http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20001121.htmlFixed weapon scaling problems with off-hand weapons and those carried by dwarves.

Have these been Implemented?

[Technique]

Yes, that damage bonus code is currently on p99, and it means the fiery defender does a whole 1 point of dmg more than it did prior to 9/19/00!

The other note, aside from the fact it's so vague that I doubt anyone knows the details of it, is irrelevant because it apparently applied to offhand weapons and knights can't dual-wield.

The reason why knights do less dmg with the same weapons is because they currently use a different max dmg function than the pure melee classes (and rangers).

This gets changed in late Velious (http://wayback.archive.org/web/20020202063615/http:/boards.station.sony.com/ubb/everquest/Forum1/HTML/000340.html):The Knight classes receive some of the biggest benefits from this melee balancing. Our evaluation of knights showed that in many cases they were doing just over half the damage of a similarly equipped warrior. This is simply not enough damage to make them highly desirable in group and raid situations. The changes we are implementing put knights at a bit over three-quarters of the damage potential of a ranger or a warrior. This represents a significant upgrade from their current status, without threatening the desirability of the ranger or warrior classes.Suck it up until then.

[vouss]

fought vouss's paladin once and he was unable to outdamage iksar + fungi regen and plugged at 10%

it's a fine trade off to click my stack of soulfires, knight damage is fine complain more OP

[Smedy]

I'm concerned that the Hit rate / dmg on knights especially Paladins is off. Using an Epic Lvl 60 Pally 35/40 delay weapon, 210 Strength the paladin misses way to much and when they do connect its very poor dmg. I also know that most of the members of the community especially the ones who have started Paladins or made it to 60 can confirm and back up my findings.

I think you can also relate the fact that this server is very low population of paladins because of the coding for their Hit Ratio and DMG. Now I do not think this would be such an issue if the Paladin line of stuns snares roots etc were actually usable in pvp but they are completely useless.

Below I'm am attaching some Logs of a few skirmishes that show some proof of my request.

If anyone has anything else to add etc please do.

Good thread, it's not only paladins, both Shadowknight and paladin are suffering from the same garbage, you can't hit anyone, it's unbearable to use a 2hander cause you're hitting for 27 with 255 str and a 44 damage 2hander...

Good thread, hope it doesn't get trollled by old man nirgon

However i suggest keep knight damage/hit ratio where it is and lower rogue/warrior/monk hitrate and then take a look at monk mitigation, we don't want to speed up pvp (aka dumb it down), we want slow battles that recuire some kind of strategy and skill rather then just burning people down within seconds

[vouss]

Oh yeah smedy thanks for reminding that my Shadowknight is also a knight, and I also have no issue with hit rate / damage rate on him.

[Rexxin]

Oh yeah smedy thanks for reminding that my Shadowknight is also a knight, and I also have no issue with hit rate / damage rate on him.

Would love to see your HT to kill ratio. Putting money on closer to 95%


Guy uses 5 charge soulfire per kill on his pally & burns ht per kill on SK.

Everything fine move to debunked posts please

[Pint]

Fixed the Paladin Epic Quest reward, which was procing a spell that would do around one million points of damage if left to its own devices.

^ did we skip this classic gem?

[vouss]

just killed 2 monks, 1 rogue, 100-0 blow outs on all of them, please fix this

[Nirgon]

Oh yeah smedy thanks for reminding that my Shadowknight is also a knight, and I also have no issue with hit rate / damage rate on him.

old man vouss got you first

[Smedy]

non of you retards read what i posted, knight hitrate is shit, but i don't want it improved, i rather see a decrease in hitrate from monks/rogues/warriors no one wants fast phases world of warcraft style pvp, the slower the better, and lets face it, no fucking rogue ever hit for 400 at lvl 50 with a epic on live, barely ever saw anything over 320 in velious gear (at lvl 60) on live, perhaps it was the mitigation that came with velious i don't know but pure melees are hitting far to much and monk avoidance is of the chain

[Nirgon]

2hs was bad until the Velious patches

The end

Watch warrior botb video for prof

All PvP servers are represented there

Sullon did not exist yet

[Platexchange]

Knights were bad until velious when their hit rate/skill cap changed. I agree with smedy that our hit rates for melee is insane. Also still feel ac doesn't work nearly as effective on live

[Crypodosktorr]

Knights hit rate is a joke. With 250 str on a 45 dmg 2 hander every double attack you get 40-60 dmg and one normal dmg . Someone clearly hated knights on this server.

[Colgate]

personally i love seeing weapons with over 50 damage hit for 19 repeatedly

[vouss]

I routinely defeat monks and warriors on my SK. No problem with the hit rate or damage here.

[Crypodosktorr]

I routinely defeat monks and warriors on my SK. No problem with the hit rate or damage here.

Maybe for SK , but than again you probably burn HT and what not accomplish this. Hit rate and dmg is a problem for Pali. It is severely bad regardless

[Huelath]

I routinely defeat monks and warriors on my SK. No problem with the hit rate or damage here.

i agree, I spent most of 2001 on a paladin meleeing monks and find the hit rate/damage here to be almost identical to then. this is reliable information as I can remember my first home address, phone number, and the name of my first crush (Mandi)

[Jeni]

Honestly it probably doesn't matter much most of the melees that I fight can't joust to save their life. So if I swing for 22 or 180 its not a big deal eventually they will be plugging, running, or dead and I'll be at 100% while the best monk of Empire is trying to crush me to save his friend from a humiliating 1v2.

[vouss]

Close the thread, move to fixed

[SamwiseRed]

brad said hit rate is fine.

[Crypodosktorr]

Right so doubling for 30 damage with 255 str at level 60 on a level 20 mob is working as intended with a 45 damage weapon?? Let alone the misses... no it wasnt this way on live.

[Huelath]

Right so doubling for 30 damage with 255 str at level 60 on a level 20 mob is working as intended with a 45 damage weapon?? Let alone the misses... no it wasnt this way on live.

i haven't seen any mention in your posts of you being able to remember your childhood address/phone number so I'm gonna go ahead and say your evidence isn't compelling enough

move thread to closed

[Doctor Jeff]

187 str unbuffed level 60 paladin did not yaulp, mob is level 44 with 279 ac
parse is just about an hour and a half, can post more, but i think its obvious that chaboo is full of shit


[Thu Dec 31 15:56:19 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 55 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 15:56:21 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 81 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 15:56:23 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 39 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 15:56:27 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 36 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 15:56:27 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 82 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 15:56:31 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 88 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 15:56:31 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 92 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 15:56:33 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 87 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 15:56:37 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 187 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 15:56:39 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 57 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 15:56:41 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 64 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 15:56:43 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 60 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 15:56:47 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 160 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 15:56:53 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 43 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 15:56:53 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 58 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 15:56:59 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 85 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 15:57:01 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 62 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 15:57:06 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 88 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 15:57:06 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 40 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 15:57:10 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 28 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 15:57:16 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 43 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 15:57:16 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 79 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 15:57:18 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 94 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 15:57:20 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 74 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 15:57:20 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 88 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 15:57:22 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 36 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 15:57:24 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 106 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 15:57:26 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 33 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 15:57:28 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 51 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 15:57:30 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 43 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 15:57:30 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 92 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 15:57:32 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 88 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 15:57:32 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 85 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 15:57:34 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 50 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 15:57:36 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 86 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 15:57:38 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 22 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 15:57:46 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 50 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 15:57:48 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 39 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 15:57:48 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 120 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 15:57:50 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 121 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 15:57:52 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 105 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 15:57:54 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 129 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 15:57:58 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 130 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 15:57:58 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 173 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 15:58:00 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 132 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:25:48 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 158 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:25:52 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 51 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:25:52 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 85 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:25:55 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 46 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:25:55 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 90 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:25:58 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 63 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:25:58 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 88 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:25:58 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 118 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:26:01 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 88 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:26:10 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 82 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:26:13 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 36 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:26:19 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 101 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:26:22 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 82 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:26:25 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 46 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:26:28 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 78 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:26:28 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 127 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:26:31 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 155 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:26:34 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 100 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:26:37 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 53 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:26:47 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 39 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:26:50 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 130 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:26:56 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 59 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:26:56 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 64 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:26:59 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 118 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:26:59 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 109 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:27:02 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 64 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:27:02 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 88 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:27:08 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 113 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:27:11 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 39 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:27:14 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 67 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:27:17 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 113 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:27:17 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 133 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:27:20 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 42 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:27:20 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 31 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:27:23 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 64 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:27:26 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 145 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:27:29 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 174 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:27:32 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 84 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:27:32 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 43 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:27:35 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 92 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:27:35 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 33 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:27:39 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 45 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:27:45 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 136 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:27:48 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 96 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:27:51 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 154 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:27:54 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 137 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:27:57 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 114 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:28:00 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 78 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:28:00 2015] You slash skeletal warlord for 105 points of damage.

[Doctor Jeff]

heres some logs of me wrecking akinn
same 187 str unbuffed


[Sat Jan 02 20:05:13 2016] You slash Akinn for 55 points of damage.
[Sat Jan 02 20:05:33 2016] You slash Akinn for 125 points of damage.
[Sat Jan 02 20:05:48 2016] You slash Akinn for 52 points of damage.
[Sat Jan 02 20:06:05 2016] You slash Akinn for 107 points of damage.
[Sat Jan 02 20:06:28 2016] You slash Akinn for 77 points of damage.
[Sat Jan 02 20:06:39 2016] You slash Akinn for 19 points of damage.
[Sat Jan 02 20:06:55 2016] You slash Akinn for 77 points of damage.
[Sat Jan 02 20:06:59 2016] You slash Akinn for 33 points of damage.
[Sat Jan 02 20:06:59 2016] You slash Akinn for 79 points of damage.
[Sat Jan 02 20:07:05 2016] You slash Akinn for 66 points of damage.
[Sat Jan 02 20:07:05 2016] You slash Akinn for 88 points of damage.
[Sat Jan 02 20:07:13 2016] You slash Akinn for 101 points of damage.
[Sat Jan 02 20:07:23 2016] You slash Akinn for 84 points of damage.
[Sat Jan 02 20:07:44 2016] You slash Akinn for 73 points of damage.
[Sat Jan 02 20:07:44 2016] You slash Akinn for 37 points of damage.
[Sat Jan 02 20:07:49 2016] You slash Akinn for 159 points of damage.
[Sat Jan 02 20:07:49 2016] You slash Akinn for 135 points of damage.
[Sat Jan 02 20:08:04 2016] You slash Akinn for 98 points of damage.
[Sat Jan 02 20:08:17 2016] You slash Akinn for 31 points of damage.
[Sat Jan 02 20:08:29 2016] You slash Akinn for 62 points of damage.
[Sat Jan 02 20:08:55 2016] You slash Akinn for 69 points of damage.
[Sat Jan 02 20:08:59 2016] You slash Akinn for 99 points of damage.

[Doctor Jeff]

Heres some logs of weird fight againt Zechariah where he got bored and left because we couldn't kill eachother and he wasn't using any of my mana.
same 187 str unbuffed, but this guy as a lot of ac i think. (this is actually 2 short fights) big gaps in time are when he zoned and i had to wait around for him to load.


[Thu Dec 31 14:02:45 2015] You slash Zechariah for 19 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 14:03:48 2015] You slash Zechariah for 34 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 14:04:00 2015] You slash Zechariah for 48 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 14:05:33 2015] You slash Zechariah for 139 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 14:11:30 2015] You slash Zechariah for 96 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 14:13:44 2015] You slash Zechariah for 33 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 14:13:44 2015] You slash Zechariah for 43 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 14:17:06 2015] You slash Zechariah for 19 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 14:17:06 2015] You slash Zechariah for 23 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 14:17:13 2015] You slash Zechariah for 39 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 14:17:53 2015] You slash Zechariah for 19 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 14:18:25 2015] You slash Zechariah for 29 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 14:18:32 2015] You slash Zechariah for 19 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 14:18:46 2015] You slash Zechariah for 67 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 14:19:13 2015] You slash Zechariah for 84 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 14:47:45 2015] You slash Zechariah for 95 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 14:47:48 2015] You slash Zechariah for 111 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 14:48:25 2015] You slash Zechariah for 52 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 14:48:25 2015] You slash Zechariah for 31 points of damage.


[Thu Dec 31 16:59:17 2015] You slash Zechariah for 32 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:01:53 2015] You slash Zechariah for 83 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:01:59 2015] You slash Zechariah for 159 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:02:44 2015] You slash Zechariah for 19 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:02:44 2015] You slash Zechariah for 50 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:10:19 2015] You slash Zechariah for 19 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:10:49 2015] You slash Zechariah for 26 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:14:07 2015] You slash Zechariah for 33 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:14:07 2015] You slash Zechariah for 88 points of damage.
[Thu Dec 31 17:14:32 2015] You slash Zechariah for 141 points of damage.

[Doctor Jeff]

same 187 str on decayed prisoners
theres no wiki data on them but they are higher level than the warlord and have more ac. (warlord has 279)


[Fri Jan 01 10:52:47 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 129 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:52:56 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 74 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:52:59 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 88 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:53:02 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 88 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:53:05 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 74 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:53:05 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 49 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:53:08 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 29 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:53:11 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 110 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:53:17 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 106 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:53:20 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 29 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:53:23 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 138 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:53:26 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 146 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:53:33 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 88 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:53:36 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 37 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:53:39 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 129 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:53:39 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 60 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:53:48 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 93 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:53:51 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 88 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:53:54 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 26 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:54:01 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 32 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:54:04 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 58 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:54:07 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 88 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:54:16 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 78 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:54:16 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 74 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:54:16 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 120 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:54:18 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 88 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:54:19 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 73 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:54:19 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 22 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:54:28 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 32 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:54:34 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 88 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:54:37 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 52 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:54:43 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 71 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:54:46 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 83 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:54:59 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 22 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:55:02 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 63 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:55:05 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 88 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:55:06 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 36 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:55:11 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 100 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:55:11 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 158 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:55:14 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 125 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:55:20 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 22 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:55:20 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 88 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:55:29 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 88 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:55:29 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 84 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:55:32 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 84 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:55:32 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 41 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:55:35 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 38 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:55:35 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 151 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:55:38 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 132 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:55:41 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 69 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:55:41 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 101 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:55:44 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 88 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:58:03 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 88 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:58:04 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 25 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:58:07 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 81 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:58:10 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 150 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:58:13 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 74 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:58:16 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 88 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:58:17 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 88 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:58:19 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 46 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:58:22 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 53 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:58:22 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 40 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:58:25 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 142 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:58:31 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 88 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:58:31 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 98 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:58:38 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 145 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:58:44 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 81 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:58:47 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 39 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:58:53 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 117 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:58:56 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 67 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:59:02 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 79 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:59:05 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 127 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:59:08 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 105 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:59:08 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 88 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:59:09 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 88 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:59:11 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 55 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:59:14 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 152 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:59:21 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 89 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:59:24 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 93 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:59:27 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 121 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:59:30 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 85 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:59:33 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 66 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:59:33 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 97 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:59:36 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 85 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:59:39 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 107 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:59:42 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 53 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:59:48 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 71 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:59:51 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 153 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:59:51 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 140 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:59:54 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 43 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 10:59:57 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 145 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:00:00 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 72 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:00:03 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 88 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:00:03 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 146 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:00:06 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 67 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:00:06 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 39 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:00:09 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 22 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:00:13 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 60 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:00:16 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 50 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:00:16 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 130 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:00:18 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 66 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:16:23 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 22 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:16:27 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 60 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:16:29 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 115 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:16:30 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 57 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:16:33 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 117 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:16:36 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 22 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:16:39 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 90 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:16:42 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 71 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:16:45 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 53 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:16:45 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 115 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:16:48 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 32 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:16:50 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 22 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:16:51 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 56 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:16:54 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 116 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:16:57 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 93 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:17:03 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 149 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:17:06 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 81 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:17:09 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 149 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:17:13 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 94 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:17:19 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 71 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:17:22 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 121 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:17:25 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 44 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:17:28 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 131 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:17:31 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 22 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:17:34 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 82 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:17:37 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 50 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:17:40 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 68 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:17:43 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 39 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:17:46 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 135 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:17:46 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 22 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:17:59 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 41 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:17:59 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 64 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:18:02 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 94 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:18:05 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 81 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:18:08 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 43 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:18:11 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 56 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:18:13 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 81 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:18:14 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 100 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:18:20 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 76 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:18:23 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 67 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:18:23 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 60 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:18:29 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 36 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:18:32 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 46 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:18:38 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 99 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:18:41 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 51 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:18:45 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 22 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:18:45 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 53 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:18:51 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 88 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:18:54 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 74 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:18:54 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 47 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:18:57 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 50 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:18:57 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 104 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:19:00 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 136 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:19:00 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 137 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:19:03 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 166 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:19:06 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 67 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:19:07 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 53 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:19:11 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 88 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:19:11 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 78 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:19:14 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 102 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:19:17 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 78 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:19:17 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 36 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:19:18 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 149 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:19:23 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 123 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:19:32 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 139 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:19:35 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 34 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:19:39 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 109 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:24:47 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 64 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:24:50 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 64 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:24:53 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 112 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:24:56 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 73 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:24:59 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 22 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:25:02 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 101 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:25:05 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 88 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:25:07 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 94 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:25:08 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 90 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:25:17 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 124 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:25:18 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 113 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:25:23 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 54 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:25:23 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 30 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:25:30 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 160 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:25:36 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 88 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:25:36 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 22 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:25:45 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 30 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:25:48 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 88 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:25:51 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 22 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:25:51 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 42 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:25:54 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 74 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:25:57 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 73 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:25:57 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 22 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:26:00 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 54 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:26:03 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 43 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:26:06 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 30 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:26:11 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 57 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:26:12 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 96 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:26:15 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 86 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:26:22 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 88 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:26:34 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 121 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:26:37 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 126 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:26:37 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 116 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:26:40 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 36 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:26:43 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 96 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:26:46 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 53 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:26:52 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 88 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:26:55 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 102 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:26:55 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 140 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:27:03 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 42 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:27:05 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 64 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:27:09 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 106 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:27:12 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 35 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:27:15 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 72 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:27:18 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 162 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:27:24 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 123 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:27:27 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 88 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:27:36 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 53 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:27:39 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 149 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:27:43 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 122 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:27:46 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 53 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:27:46 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 74 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:27:49 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 152 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:27:52 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 22 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:27:55 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 62 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:27:58 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 73 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:32:05 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 130 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:32:05 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 88 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:32:11 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 74 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:32:14 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 41 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:32:17 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 46 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:32:20 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 53 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:32:23 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 53 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:32:26 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 88 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:32:32 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 22 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:32:35 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 74 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:32:38 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 107 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:32:41 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 93 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:32:48 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 139 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:32:51 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 47 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:32:54 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 145 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:33:00 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 156 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:33:03 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 71 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:33:06 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 140 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:33:12 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 71 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:33:15 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 36 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:33:18 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 157 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:33:24 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 70 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:33:24 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 122 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:33:27 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 36 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:33:30 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 110 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:33:33 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 137 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:33:36 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 59 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:33:39 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 88 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:33:43 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 114 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:33:49 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 131 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:33:49 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 67 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:33:52 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 57 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:33:55 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 157 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:33:58 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 120 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:33:58 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 147 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:34:01 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 80 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:34:07 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 84 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:34:10 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 67 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:34:13 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 32 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:34:16 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 108 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:34:16 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 38 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:34:19 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 31 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:34:19 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 46 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:34:22 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 110 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:34:24 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 132 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:34:25 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 99 points of damage.
[Fri Jan 01 11:55:37 2016] You slash decayed prisoner for 64 points of damage.

[Doctor Jeff]

Sorry for the multiposts, hopefully these logs can shed some light on the kind of damage a mid range paladin is doing. Not very good stats, much lower than chaboo claims to have, about 5* the damage chaboo claims to have though

[vouss]

5 posts and not once did you mention your address phone number or high school teachers name

[Doctor Jeff]

5 posts and not once did you mention your address phone number or high school teachers name

im not saying that knights do or do not do enough damage, I'm just providing actual data instead of bollocks so that devs can actually see how much damage is being done.


heres another short skirmish vs a rogue


[Tue Jan 05 23:25:16 2016] You slash Jewc for 44 points of damage.
[Tue Jan 05 23:29:32 2016] You slash Jewc for 151 points of damage.
[Tue Jan 05 23:29:35 2016] You slash Jewc for 89 points of damage.
[Tue Jan 05 23:29:35 2016] You slash Jewc for 86 points of damage.
[Tue Jan 05 23:30:05 2016] You slash Jewc for 159 points of damage.
[Tue Jan 05 23:30:05 2016] You slash Jewc for 48 points of damage.
[Tue Jan 05 23:30:23 2016] You slash Jewc for 22 points of damage.
[Tue Jan 05 23:30:31 2016] You slash Jewc for 126 points of damage.
[Tue Jan 05 23:30:31 2016] You slash Jewc for 101 points of damage.
[Tue Jan 05 23:30:45 2016] You slash Jewc for 44 points of damage.
[Tue Jan 05 23:31:07 2016] You slash Jewc for 22 points of damage.
[Tue Jan 05 23:38:38 2016] You slash Jewc for 144 points of damage.
[Tue Jan 05 23:38:43 2016] You slash Jewc for 108 points of damage.
[Tue Jan 05 23:38:46 2016] You slash Jewc for 19 points of damage.
[Tue Jan 05 23:38:46 2016] You slash Jewc for 19 points of damage.
[Tue Jan 05 23:39:27 2016] You slash Jewc for 24 points of damage.
[Tue Jan 05 23:43:59 2016] You slash Jewc for 34 points of damage.
[Tue Jan 05 23:43:59 2016] You slash Jewc for 84 points of damage.
[Tue Jan 05 23:44:05 2016] You slash Jewc for 88 points of damage.
[Tue Jan 05 23:44:08 2016] You slash Jewc for 120 points of damage.
[Tue Jan 05 23:44:08 2016] You slash Jewc for 102 points of damage.
[Tue Jan 05 23:44:30 2016] You slash Jewc for 79 points of damage.
[Tue Jan 05 23:44:50 2016] You slash Jewc for 130 points of damage.
[Tue Jan 05 23:44:57 2016] You slash Jewc for 29 points of damage.
[Tue Jan 05 23:44:57 2016] You slash Jewc for 81 points of damage.
[Tue Jan 05 23:45:00 2016] You slash Jewc for 51 points of damage.
[Tue Jan 05 23:45:14 2016] You slash Jewc for 60 points of damage.

[Ragnaros]

i dont see any evidence of knowing your past cell phone number, home address, or name of your high school crush

[heartbrand]

man that's hilarious, you should type that joke again

[Doctor Jeff]

i dont see any evidence of knowing your past cell phone number, home address, or name of your high school crush

check my other bug reports for this info

free bump though

[vouss]

Interesting, well in the future just be sure to repost the information for those of us who don't have the time to dig through your old posts. Move thread to resolved please

[Dacuk]

Heres some logs of weird fight againt Zechariah where he got bored and left because we couldn't kill eachother and he wasn't using any of my mana.
same 187 str unbuffed, but this guy as a lot of ac i think. (this is actually 2 short fights) big gaps in time are when he zoned and i had to wait around for him to load.

dont think AC impacts PVP dmg at all.

I know its a dex vs agi check that has a big impact.. not sure if that is on hit rate or dmg amount. would love to see some devs help us with facts but won't hold my breath.

[Colgate]

AC definitely works

there's a clear difference between attacking a warrior and attacking a wizard in terms of average hit

[Doctor Jeff]

the difference is obvious even just between the rogue/monk examples. those rogues have a lot less ac than zechariah and get hit a lot harder more often.


dex vs agi is just for hit rate.

[Dacuk]

could have sworn some dev posted a while back about how they still had to fix AC to work in pvp but can't find that post. been playing a damn cleric too long, thx for infoz.

[Ragnaros]

wrong zechariah has around 900 ac
I have 1100 on my rogue

[vouss]

AC for sure doesn't work, properly at least. Weta posted logs of him rounding people for 19 damage.

19 damage? with Paladius Axe Of slaughter. I'm sure Weta's gear is FAR better then Beastagors, his DEX, STR, and ATK are all probably higher, he's swinging a 51 damage two hander against Casters and Bards from my guild (so I'm going to assume they have LESS AC then the casters in Empire ) and he's hitting for 19 damage.

ON THE OTHER HAND

I'm swinging against higher AC targets (assumingly, casters from Empire like Omai, Tamiyo) with less STR, DEX, ATK, and a lower damage weapon but my minimum hit has never been below 22. What's going on.

[Raev]

probably you are wielding a slower weapon which has a higher damage bonus

[Stalos_]

probably you are wielding a slower weapon which has a higher damage bonus

what?

[Ragnaros]

probably you are wielding a slower weapon which has a higher damage bonus

doesnt work like that yet bud

[Huelath]

AC for sure doesn't work, properly at least. Weta posted logs of him rounding people for 19 damage.

19 damage? with Paladius Axe Of slaughter. I'm sure Weta's gear is FAR better then Beastagors, his DEX, STR, and ATK are all probably higher, he's swinging a 51 damage two hander against Casters and Bards from my guild (so I'm going to assume they have LESS AC then the casters in Empire ) and he's hitting for 19 damage.

ON THE OTHER HAND

I'm swinging against higher AC targets (assumingly, casters from Empire like Omai, Tamiyo) with less STR, DEX, ATK, and a lower damage weapon but my minimum hit has never been below 22. What's going on.

if weta knew his high school homeroom teacher's name he might hit a bit harder

[Nirgon]

not meleeing hard enough? Harmtouch disco? Lay hands? Soulfire? Hybrid casting adjustment patch? Y'all insane?

[Beastagoog]

Bump

[Raev]

doesnt work like that yet bud

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=690963&postcount=3

I really think Red players should simply not be allowed to use the bug forums.

[ducktv]

last time I played Brickhouse I routinely outjousted damn near everyone and slashed between 80-180 with a few wet noodle rounds few and far between. y'all are just bad at Everquest.

[Doctor Jeff]

last time I played Brickhouse I routinely outjousted damn near everyone and slashed between 80-180 with a few wet noodle rounds few and far between. y'all are just bad at Everquest.

This has been my experience, I even sometimes get a fancy crit for 250+ with holyforge on.

[Rikky]

Just so everyone knows, knights are still on the wrong hit table.

[Doctor Jeff]

Just so everyone knows, knights are still on the wrong hit table.

Get. Over. It.

[ducktv]

just so everyone knows, still crushing people on a knight with a 35 damage weapon.

[Nirgon]

Goog jorb

[EatitNerd]

Just so everyone knows, knights are still on the wrong hit table.



Cringing at you talking to yourself here

[Doctor Jeff]

The hit tables change in the October 8, 2001 (http://web.archive.org/web/20020208182047/http://eq.castersrealm.com/viewarticle.asp?Article=3831)patch

[Baam]

When is this patch on red?

[Doctor Jeff]

When is this patch on red?

We're in the June 2001 era at the moment and patches are released when they are ready, not on a schedule. It could be 6 months, it could be 6 years.

[Baam]

So will triple attack be the next patch? The patch right after June 2001 patch?

[Doctor Jeff]

So will triple attack be the next patch? The patch right after June 2001 patch?

There are 10 patches between the June 27 patch and the October 8 patch.

[Ruegar]

There are 10 patches between the June 27 patch and the October 8 patch.

I think I just heard my heart crack in 2, u know how when an old persons husband/wife dies and they like die also the next day, something like that.

[Doctor Jeff]

u know how when an old persons husband/wife dies and they like die also the next day

Yea, I do... My grandma died that way :/ She just gave up.

[vouss]

keep crying loser sorry you suck

[SamwiseRed]

hit rate is exactly how i remember it in 1995 when brad and I would pvp each other in pre alpha beta

[vouss]

Above poster remembers his home address, phone number, and high school teachers name (proved and vilidated already , - naysayers...). Move to resolved

[fan D]

above poster stinks on ice at pvp

[Platexchange]

Bump for justice

[Nirgon]

Quit being a dead beat and farm soul fire

[Nirgon]

We're also not on October 2001 patch (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/history/patches-2001-2.html) yet as far as I can tell. This is also around the time the Blackstone Maul was upgraded.


* Summary of Melee Changes *

- Two-Handed Weapons have been given an increased damage bonus for
characters over level 50. Also, certain post-epic quality two-handers
have been improved.

- Paladins and Shadowknights, besides the benefits they gain from the
two-handed weapons change mentioned above, have also been moved to the
same combat tables as warriors. In the future we intend to examine the
existing one-handed weapons useable by knights for possible upgrades.
We are also increasing the Taunt skill cap for these two classes to
220.



but some (most? all?) of the 2handers dropping already have these changes.

[Doctor Jeff]

We're also not on October 2001 patch (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/history/patches-2001-2.html) yet as far as I can tell. This is also around the time the Blackstone Maul was upgraded.



but some (most? all?) of the 2handers dropping already have these changes.

This thread is about combat tables and is for a future patch, which makes all the trolling in his thread extremely obvious.

[ducktv]

So did this ever get fixed?

[Jeni]

highly doubt it, pvp changes haven't been worked on since 2012 probably or whenever they busted tracking and never fixed it. I believe its the low attack knights have that is causing this.

[reebz]

when i played brickhouse, i never missed. i had 100% hit rate. also 100% win rate. i never lost a fight. nothing ever got fixed because nothing was ever broken.

[greatdane]

I remember this being a thing back in the day, at least at mid-levels. During Velious, I made a level 30 paladin twink on TZ and eventually gave up on it because I'd whiff 75% of my swings against people around my level, with maxed skills. It's anecdotal, but it was definitely a thing.

[Infectious]

I remember this being a thing back in the day, at least at mid-levels. During Velious, I made a level 30 paladin twink on TZ and eventually gave up on it because I'd whiff 75% of my swings against people around my level, with maxed skills. It's anecdotal, but it was definitely a thing.

I remember I had atleast a 73% hit rate during classic. I was level 38 though. I would say level that alt and you should see better returns.