View Full Version : That moment when you decided to quit EQ live
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I know the guild management, bank slots, and armor dyes were nice additions, but I could not stand seeing Frogloks as playable races. Kicking the trolls out of Grobb and sending them to live with the Dark Elves? A few new crappy zones? I began to lose interest in the game, and could not bring myself to log in anymore. WoW was released not long after LoY dropped, and started playing there for many years.
When was the moment you decided to stop playing EQ live?
When I logged on and realized I was so far behind everyone I knew that all I did was sit in newbie zones and chat with friends while they did stuff in game. I also started to become interested in interacting with people in the real world. Later I realized that I was so shy I couldn't even order my own food at restaurants. Getting away from EQ sort of helped in that regard because I could concentrate on improving myself rather than be distracted by all the things you could do in the game.
I play a lot differently now than I did before. I can actually talk to total strangers without having them talk to me first now. Improvement!
Gilder
07-10-2015, 03:34 PM
I also started to become interested in interacting with people in the real world. Later I realized that I was so shy I couldn't even order my own food at restaurants.
As someone who started playing EQ in their "awkward teen years" I have to agree.
Glad I quit in high school and never got into WoW.
Sage Truthbearer
07-10-2015, 03:41 PM
Kicking the trolls out of Grobb and sending them to live with the Dark Elves?
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haha, perfect!
Whiggly
07-10-2015, 04:15 PM
I have started and stopped playing EQ on live servers many times over the years since first joining in autumn 1999. One of the times I returned was actually to start playing a froglok wizard (which I loved and stuck with after that).
For me the last truly good expansion was Seeds of Destruction(SoD) which tied up most (if not all) of the loose GoD and OoW Lore ends. The entire Discord element finally made sense (to me at least).
So I finally stopped raiding altogether halfway through the Underfoot expansion (that came after SoD), since I simply couldn't stomach many of new WoWified silly looking NPC graphics - and the Lore was attrocious also (and imo that only got worse in the following expansions).
In retrospect I suppose that the introduction of all the random dropping Defiant armor/weapons sometimes during Secrets of Faydwer(which came before SoD) was a pretty major nail in the coffin as far as content that wasn't of current endgame level goes.
These days I can't see myself ever returning to the live servers - not even for their TLP servers(which is a concept that I really like otherwise) - since EQlive simply no longer looks or plays anything like the EQ I loved and want to play.
Man0warr
07-10-2015, 04:29 PM
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/spawns/uqua-outline.jpg
Erati
07-10-2015, 04:31 PM
AAs did it for me - I did not want to grind ANYMORE and I had college approaching....
felt it was best to run away from the game before I started to grind any AAs at all bc I knew where that would have lead...
Naethyn
07-10-2015, 04:34 PM
In LDoN all the dungeons were a mixed bag of hallways that connected and I realized I wanted dungeons that I went down into.
Mistle
07-10-2015, 04:45 PM
Luclin murdered my framerate.
PoP (PoK in particular) murdered the world feeling.
LDoN murdered the community.
GoD murdered everything else in the game.
Wasn't one specific thing, but the combination of all four of those was more than enough. A finished (and optimized) Luclin and a PoP without PoK would probably have been the perfect EQ game. There was no getting back from the damage of LDoN and GoD though.
Daldaen
07-10-2015, 04:48 PM
After VoA the expansions just all felt the same, boring and easy.
I remember beta testing a raid in Crystal Caverns 2.0 (which was really boring), then later that night raiding on Mac server either like Bertoxxulous or Rallos Zek.
Nothing will ever compare to the majesty that was Planes of Power.
Wfrench1234
07-10-2015, 04:53 PM
Played very hardcore from the day servers launched until we cleared VP. I was a lvl 57 paladin at the time, and was the (tied for) highest level paladin on the server. Was so burnt out, I had to quit. My played time from March 99 to June/Julyish of 2000 was something like 160 days /played. Yuck.
I left for good when they enabled Wood Elves to become Beastlords - with a damn shrubbery as a pet...
milsorgen
07-10-2015, 05:07 PM
Catmen were pretty bad but they frogs showed they didn't know what they were doing any more.
Daldaen
07-10-2015, 05:10 PM
I left for good when they enabled Wood Elves to become Beastlords - with a damn shrubbery as a pet...
I'm stilly salty it wasn't a Wasp.
iruinedyourday
07-10-2015, 05:11 PM
http://www.rpgfan.com/features/eqoa-event/loy-pic1.jpg
I know the guild management, bank slots, and armor dyes were nice additions, but I could not stand seeing Frogloks as playable races. Kicking the trolls out of Grobb and sending them to live with the Dark Elves? A few new crappy zones? I began to lose interest in the game, and could not bring myself to log in anymore. WoW was released not long after LoY dropped, and started playing there for many years.
When was the moment you decided to stop playing EQ live?
You were never able to play as a froglok on live... You were however able to play as that abomination in the ss that was literately the only thing uglier than cats from the moon.
jarshale
07-10-2015, 05:15 PM
LDoN is what did it for me. Instanced group straight line dungeons? It was awful.
SamwiseRed
07-10-2015, 05:37 PM
the idea of ldon was cool (more dungeons in old world) too bad they made them instances.
Pscottdai
07-10-2015, 05:38 PM
After Veil of Alaris in 2012. Was a long haul of playing/raiding from '99 until then while maintaining my family/work life. In the end just got tired of the expansion churn.
wormed
07-10-2015, 05:39 PM
I quit at Ykesha. I don't think it was because I particularly disliked the direction the game was going, I just didn't have any time to play any more. I think WoW vanilla came out, etc, which ironically, made me play as much as I used to with EQ back in the day. WoW vanilla was good. It just turned to shit. :p
I was that guy who played with old models because I refused to look at the ugly abominations that Luclin vomited on everyone. I didn't get the ride any mounts, but fuck it, I had Run 3, it didn't even matter.
mystang89
07-10-2015, 05:40 PM
Started taking over my life plus when I saw Mercenaries being able to be hugged that told me it wasn't the same game I loved. Plus all the boxing. I played with a bunch of people yesterday at CE in mistmoore last night and had one of the best times not just because I didn't kill everyone like normal, but because everyone was talking, laughing and friendly. When one person is half the group and there isn't anyone to talk to it's no fun anymore. Just becomes dull and boring and makes you want to fall asleep.
Lojik
07-10-2015, 05:54 PM
Do they still use luclin models on live?
Voland
07-10-2015, 05:55 PM
For me it was mercs and everyone having to start in Serpent Spine city.
Riotgirl
07-10-2015, 05:56 PM
For me it was just a few months before PoP. Did not buy SoL because I had no need: classic offered so much content that the game didn't need more mid-level content.
AAs offered something a ill' different to customise characters, although this was the beginning of old world mobs becoming trivial to Mana-burning Wizards. I didn't like loot trivialisation because a lot of SoL vendor trash made a lot of old world loot simply trash.
I also didn't like the desolation of EC (although I understand the appeal of the bazaar), and hated Spires for fast travel. A large swathe of random encounters disappeared with fast travel.
I did like the UI and global and private chat channels.
I disliked SoL because I joined April 2001, and had just over 6 months of classic. I also had to upgrade my Banshee Voodoo 2 video card! At least many years later, I have a second chance to do all of the things that I didn't do 2nd time around.
mr_jon3s
07-10-2015, 06:09 PM
I took breaks on and off for years but my final straw was I came back and spent about a month getting my three accounts 6k aas and hitting level 90. I was going to start doing current content and then they made it so you could buy a level 85 heroic character with 8k aas from the sony store. I quit for good after that and started focusing on p99 and have now quit p99 till velious comes out. I have a 32 rogue waiting to level up in velious.
I left for good when they enabled Wood Elves to become Beastlords - with a damn shrubbery as a pet...
I had no idea, god thats cringeworthy
Whiggly
07-10-2015, 07:46 PM
I left for good when they enabled Wood Elves to become Beastlords - with a damn shrubbery as a pet...
Imo then the introduction of the option for Frogloks to be Monks was even worse ...
webrunner5
07-10-2015, 09:36 PM
Pretty much when I got to level 90, on a ungodly twinked Mage, that I had played day after day for years, with like 8k worth of AA's on it, and could not Solo shit. :eek::eek:
Maybe, just maybe, they had gone too far on how hard the normal mobs were. I can understand named mobs, but yard trash, well what the the hell. :o Get a grip.
See you later, and have a nice day. :D I don't need to die every other normal mob, or HAVE to group every time. Not happening. Keep your money. :p
relentlessimp
07-10-2015, 09:38 PM
When they announced Omens of War when Gates of Discord was still an overtuned piece of shit.
PDX0621
07-10-2015, 09:45 PM
Shortly after the expansion with the berserkers, when I accidentally deleted my Helm of the Tracker on my ranger. Said eff it, I'm done. Probably around 2004-5ish? Sometime between now and then my account was hacked and all my characters were stripped. Oh well.
Sadre Spinegnawer
07-10-2015, 10:01 PM
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/spawns/uqua-outline.jpg
this
Rararboker
07-10-2015, 10:05 PM
Quit around LDON and forget about the game for years. Then they announced EQN and made mention of eq being F2P on the normal eq servers. Gave it a shot after recovering my account. Had gauntlets of fiery might, cof and a bunch of other nice velious and kunark items. All of it was vendor trash compared to even the worse of gear. Friend found out I had gone back to live and told me about p99. Played back and forth until a nice bard gave me a free PL from 20-something to the low 40's. Never went back to live after that.
wormed
07-10-2015, 10:13 PM
Quit around LDON and forget about the game for years. Then they announced EQN and made mention of eq being F2P on the normal eq servers. Gave it a shot after recovering my account. Had gauntlets of fiery might, cof and a bunch of other nice velious and kunark items. All of it was vendor trash compared to even the worse of gear. Friend found out I had gone back to live and told me about p99. Played back and forth until a nice bard gave me a free PL from 20-something to the low 40's. Never went back to live after that.
That's exactly what turned me off. The itemization is so fucking bonkers now that it was just super discouraging. I had solid PoP gear and it was all made to look like utter crap with Defiant of equal level. Like... really, really, utter crap.
I wish P99 would go to PoP but I know that won't happen.
Chrysus
07-10-2015, 10:37 PM
For the most part I quit at SoL, which to me was a big drop in quality compared to the rest of the game. However I didn't finally cancel until much later they made the original models "unsupported" and you couldn't even select to use them anymore. It felt like they took my character away from me and I cancelled the same day.
Bboboo
07-10-2015, 10:56 PM
Friends went to FFXI as did I. Don't really remember hating EQ back in the day, played up to LoY.
Wiley
07-10-2015, 11:10 PM
Friends went to FFXI as did I. Don't really remember hating EQ back in the day, played up to LoY.
I also quit and went to FFXI, best community I've ever played with in an mmorpg was on Ramuh.
EQ was pumping out expansions and changing the game quicker then I wanted them too, Planes of Power was amazing but it started to get too much too fast after that.
wormed
07-10-2015, 11:21 PM
Looks like majority of players quit post-PoP. The P99 crew should just start a Classic-PoP server. :p
Rararboker
07-10-2015, 11:27 PM
Tbh I had mixed feelings about everything from SoL and onward. Just didn't find a replacement game until around LDoN.
Speedi
07-10-2015, 11:28 PM
What do you expect being gone from the game for all those years? lol
Example: Look at the difference between Kunark and Velious gear, and thats only one expansion diff
Rararboker
07-10-2015, 11:31 PM
Didnt expect much different but it doesn't make the game seem less foreign just knowing what to expect. Which was the point.
Bboboo
07-11-2015, 12:26 AM
I also quit and went to FFXI, best community I've ever played with in an mmorpg was on Ramuh.
EQ was pumping out expansions and changing the game quicker then I wanted them too, Planes of Power was amazing but it started to get too much too fast after that.
Holy shit you played on Ramuh too? What was your name? Remeber anyone by the name of Oobobb, Teirel or Sumoto?
Wiley
07-11-2015, 12:40 AM
Holy shit you played on Ramuh too? What was your name? Remeber anyone by the name of Oobobb, Teirel or Sumoto?
doesn't ring any bells, only toon I played was a taru named Veloce in the LS Taruhullabaloo.
Buellen
07-11-2015, 05:14 AM
I think it was called Gates of discord.
Tried my best to get into the raids etc their but was honestly not eq anymore. After you raid Planes of Power rest of it went down hill.
IMHO When you as a player have defeated all the in game gods that is great point to stop and retire.
enough said.
PS Fort those wanting POP experience The Al'kabor project will be going up to POP
myriverse
07-11-2015, 07:08 AM
It was nothing specific to EQ or Sony that drove me away. April 2004, City of Heroes was released. About a month or three later, I realized I didn't have time for both. So...
up, up, and away...
Bazia
07-11-2015, 07:21 AM
velious when the items start getting stupidly powerful making all former expansion content obsolete
Pscottdai
07-11-2015, 07:30 AM
It was nothing specific to EQ or Sony that drove me away. April 2004, City of Heroes was released. About a month or three later, I realized I didn't have time for both. So...
up, up, and away...
CoH was such a great game - nearly cried when they shut down the server.
As a cleric, who really doesn't like soloing much. I play a cleric for grouping and hard dungeon crawls. I don't care about min/max, I just want to hang in there by the skin of my teeth.
Then they introduced mercenaries with your very own cleric bot. RIP EQ, until I found you guys. :)
Jimjam
07-11-2015, 08:37 AM
While I never 'quit' I am no longer an active live player. Quitting is for addicts.
myriverse
07-11-2015, 08:43 AM
mercenaries
This would certainly have driven me away had I been there for SoF/SoD.
slowpoke68
07-11-2015, 08:48 AM
Spent a week camping Lord Grimrot, never got him, and said why am I doing this? Quit, then came back briefly for the launch of Kunark and then again for launch of Velious. Didn't stay particularly long either time.
Ended up leaving for good and playing DAoC for a couple of years.
I was that guy who played with old models because I refused to look at the ugly abominations that Luclin vomited on everyone. I didn't get the ride any mounts, but fuck it, I had Run 3, it didn't even matter.
Game moved on, I didn't. Played on and off until GoD, occasionally starting over on a new server. I was very casual on live, never raided at all, and starting with Velious EQ focused more and more away from the casual player (most of my friends quit within a couple months of Velious launch.) They tried with LDoN, but it was such a cheap and cheesy implementation that the shiny wore off after a month or so.
I remember people talking about some promotional deal where you could start out at L62 with 50 AAs several years (?5) back, so I logged in to the SoE website for the first time in years and checked my highest level character and sure enough he was L62 with 50 AAs. I didn't bother logging into the game itself.
I'm surprised that many people here played past PoP and even up to the latest expansion, considering we are a classic server here only going up to SoV. I would fully support a locked server at PoP.
People may not believe it, but Vanilla WoW was some of the most fun I have had playing an mmo. It was an easy choice to quit EQ and move over. You wouldn't be able to tell by looking at the game now.
wormed
07-11-2015, 10:53 AM
I'm surprised that many people here played past PoP and even up to the latest expansion, considering we are a classic server here only going up to SoV. I would fully support a locked server at PoP.
People may not believe it, but Vanilla WoW was some of the most fun I have had playing an mmo. It was an easy choice to quit EQ and move over. You wouldn't be able to tell by looking at the game now.
Vanilla WoW was amazing. Granted, it ruined all MMORPG's today, but for its time, it was pretty damn innovative. Not near as "hand holding" as the game has become. I really loved that game. I quit when TBC came out. When my guild cleared Blackwing Lair, I was done.
capco
07-11-2015, 10:57 AM
For me it was the Bazaar that was beginning of the end of the game.
Taking away the haggling involved in the EC tunnel was the first step towards dumbing the game down by removing mandatory social interaction.
Planes of Power was another step in that direction. Why get a port from a player when everyone can just click on a book?
The EZ mode mentally only progressed from there. Give me pain, and heartache, and tears... anything over EZ mode.
Daldaen
07-11-2015, 11:01 AM
For me it was the Bazaar that was beginning of the end of the game.
Taking away the haggling involved in the EC tunnel was the first step towards dumbing the game down by removing mandatory social interaction.
Planes of Power was another step in that direction. Why get a port from a player when everyone can just click on a book?
The EZ mode mentally only progressed from there. Give me pain, and heartache, and tears... anything over EZ mode.
I hate interacting with half of this server. Luclin/Bazaar was a godsend to not have to deal with resellers, and people who laugh at your prices in an attempt to get you to lower them. PoP was a godsend for noobs traveling so that a druid doesn't not port them because they can't pay 50 plat for a port.
Forced interaction isn't a good thing. Nor is complete solo play.
Allow players to interact as they wish, and choose with whom they interact. Sending a tell to a random druid/wizard for a port isn't any interaction at all. If that druid were a bot you really couldn't tell much of a difference at all. "Port to WC please", druid arrives, invites to group, ports, SoWs, you input coin. Its no different from a robot.
capco
07-11-2015, 11:06 AM
I hate interacting with half of this server. Luclin/Bazaar was a godsend to not have to deal with resellers, and people who laugh at your prices in an attempt to get you to lower them. PoP was a godsend for noobs traveling so that a druid doesn't not port them because they can't pay 50 plat for a port.
Forced interaction isn't a good thing. Nor is complete solo play.
Allow players to interact as they wish, and choose with whom they interact. Sending a tell to a random druid/wizard for a port isn't any interaction at all. If that druid were a bot you really couldn't tell much of a difference at all. "Port to WC please", druid arrives, invites to group, ports, SoWs, you input coin. Its no different from a robot.
Tbf, this server and (old) live were/are totally different. The scum and filth you find here is nothing like what you saw back in the day. It's a bit unfair to compare this stagnation to the glory days.
Fair point on the port. Except that I've made long-term friends in EQ just by doing something like asking for a port, or haggling, or grouping.
That isn't possible with a robot.
Daldaen
07-11-2015, 11:32 AM
Grouping, raiding and assisting with quest/corpse recoveries, etc. I definitely agree. Friends are made.
But never did I make a friend or be compelled to have further interaction with someone who sold me an item or ported me somewhere. Those two things were 1 minute interactions with 1-2 sentences exchanged and a thanks at the end. Just like I have no interest in interacting any further with the person checking me out at the grocery store and if at all possible all opt to do the self checkout. Cause that's way more convenient.
I provide cookies and hugs with every port, dald
Axlrose
07-11-2015, 11:45 AM
Hard to pinpoint which expansion I left Live from since I was still buying each expansion for a while without a prayer in the world of ever seeing any of the content.
When Freeport, Oasis, and Ro were revamped with new graphics was my ending. Add how researching spells were for naught since vendors sold all the spells save for the newest ones were readily available was a negative too. And how Mayong Mistmoore somehow was much more powerful than all the gods in the game *baffled*.
Of course, the lure of Eve Online was there with its ability to become powerful over time without the constant need to grind, grind, and grind some more. Diving headfirst into that game without a care in the world that I just spent for two year subscriptions to my Live accounts did not bother me - that's how disenchanted I became.
xhucknasty
07-11-2015, 11:55 AM
Quit when I saw LoY coming out and I hadn't even began to look at the previous expansions I had bought (PoP before Ykesha I think?). It just put me off that they were throwing even more crap at me to spend money on and it was incredibly hard to keep up with. Also: had just discovered girls. 10/10 would quit again.
Voland
07-11-2015, 12:26 PM
CoH was such a great game - nearly cried when they shut down the server.
CoH was first of many MMOs that lured me away from EQ...but I always come back.
Catashe
07-11-2015, 12:42 PM
I think it was called Gates of discord.
Tried my best to get into the raids etc their but was honestly not eq anymore. After you raid Planes of Power rest of it went down hill.
IMHO When you as a player have defeated all the in game gods that is great point to stop and retire.
enough said.
PS Fort those wanting POP experience The Al'kabor project will be going up to POP
Here here! Sure the flagging was alittle annoying but killing the gods were awesome! Everything after that was just dull
Coridan
07-11-2015, 12:46 PM
EQ didn't drive me away, I was lured away by City of Heroes when I got onto the beta for it, then I went to EQ2 all-in til about 2011, and it was single player games and MOBAs after that until just getting back into p1999
Korain
07-11-2015, 12:48 PM
I don't remember what expac it was, but it was in 2008-2009. I recall duoing with my dad, looking over at him, and saying, "Are you bored? Because I'm bored." His reply was, "I've been feeling that way myself lately..."
We unsubbed that night, and never logged back in.
Ghordo
07-11-2015, 01:05 PM
I quit after our guild completed Planes of Power, it was very fun raid expansion for sure. But after that, it got stale very quickly for me.
Jfertal
07-11-2015, 01:49 PM
bleh been playing live for the past week, shits wack...
bleh been playing live for the past week, shits wack...
Really? Are your characters lvl 100 with like 20k AA like everyone else?
Really? Are your characters lvl 100 with like 20k AA like everyone else?
ROFL, have AA's really gone OVER 9000? that would be so... special, if true
wormed
07-11-2015, 08:15 PM
ROFL, have AA's really gone OVER 9000? that would be so... special, if true
Definitely have.
ROFL, have AA's really gone OVER 9000? that would be so... special, if true
Now, I think you can start out at like lvl 85 with 8500 AA's
I forgot to add that back then, I had a shitty E-machines computer (as did probably most of the teenagers that played) and could barely handle the new character models and new zones. That was part of the reason i stopped playing lol
TarukShmaruk
07-11-2015, 09:53 PM
Several times
First was after an 8 hour raid in Kael and I was just disgusted with myself for playing that long
Second was after another one of those in Vex Thal - just felt like I was wasting my life
Third was when WoW came out
Raidz
07-11-2015, 10:08 PM
I realised when...
Strived to be the first WW fully PoTB geared ranger. Aquired BP 2 days before some other ranger on a scrub number 2 server (/smug). Found brief Allakhazam fame as a result.
Week later realised the achievement is equal to spending most of my life in a room full of retards trying my hardest to be the loudest, dumbest, most remedial fuckwit of them all.
That was month or two before GoD release, never logged in live again ever since and aint ever looked back.
P99 4Life Donate today.
Utmost
07-12-2015, 03:59 AM
I played as long as I could after Frotty left. #dealwithit <3 ToN
iruinedyourday
07-12-2015, 04:14 AM
Several times
First was after an 8 hour raid in Kael and I was just disgusted with myself for playing that long
Second was after another one of those in Vex Thal - just felt like I was wasting my life
Third was when WoW came out
I like the way this sounds, 'I was on cocain, I had to stop. Then I found heroin!'
webrunner5
07-12-2015, 11:59 AM
Looks like majority of players quit post-PoP. The P99 crew should just start a Classic-PoP server. :p
Could not have said it better. Classic is a lot more to a lot of people than just what Nilbog Thinks is "classic". Not knocking him, it is his server. :) But Velious is NOT the end all to old EQ. I actually, really, don't even like Velious much at all. :p
kate79
07-12-2015, 12:16 PM
I can't even claim I've quit. I have stopped playing for years multiple times, only to go back. I'm loving Project 1999 but I wouldn't be surprised if I go back to live again too.
MrHooker
07-12-2015, 10:33 PM
We'll it sounds like I got out while it was still good. I was still having a blast in Dec 2002 I believe it was PoP. Then I decided to go back to college and moved to TX. Turns out the ID department wouldn't open all the ports necessary for me to play (I believe at the time it used a large range of ports and would randomly pick on in that range). I tried getting it to work via proxy but I didn't have the computer know-how. So let my friend just play my mage till he got bored. Ended up getting marred and have 3 kids now. Who knows where I'd be if I didn't decided to make a life change and move which forced me to quit. Now I just play casual in the evenings when my kids are asleep.
Deadmantis
07-12-2015, 11:14 PM
Struggled to get through the Gates of Discord, and then Omens of War finally did it for me. I just could not connect the lore to the EQ I once knew. When EQ2 launched 2 months after OoW I was gone.
godbox
07-13-2015, 01:48 AM
Where's the option for dad catches you skipping school and you tell him your a meth addict so he doesn't know your playing eq but he takes your computer anyway?
I actually, really, don't even like Velious much at all. :p Heresy!!! ;)
I actually liked Velious. The first time when my group was hunting giants in Kael and another guild came to kill the Avatar of War, and some friends in the guild kept running over for a heal. And when I turned to look at the raid the whole system would slow down to a crawl and everything looked like a fight in slow motion, just made it seem more epic.
Waedawen
07-13-2015, 04:36 AM
Capco you're the fucking man
unleashedd
07-13-2015, 04:58 AM
started on Saryrn server when Kunark came out. made iksar immediately but couldn't see anything in the starting city. (discovered gamma settings later :)
deleted char and started human rogue. got to lvl14 and started finding gems on mobs - oh, these are for jewelcrafting eh? i'll have to make an enc mule now
enchanter was my only char until LoY; still the most fun class in any RPG i've played
quit during LoY and started playing WoW
Tiewon Shu
07-13-2015, 08:19 AM
Could not have said it better. Classic is a lot more to a lot of people than just what Nilbog Thinks is "classic". Not knocking him, it is his server. :) But Velious is NOT the end all to old EQ. I actually, really, don't even like Velious much at all. :p
I agree. This project should stop at PoP, and prohibit the Knowledge Books, Bazaar and Nexus. That would be the perfect game IMHO.
Daldaen
07-13-2015, 08:36 AM
I agree. This project should stop at PoP, and prohibit the Knowledge Books, Bazaar and Nexus. That would be the perfect game IMHO.
What if, PoK books worked, and Nexus worked.
But PoK books were 1-way from PoK (requiring a Druid/wizard port up to PoK), allowing people to just get a port to PoK then they can make their way to the zone they wish.
But Nexus spires were 1-way from Nexus (requiring a Druid/Wizard port up to Nexus)
Bazaar I don't really get the hate for, I loved it but I could live without it if it meant we could get Luclin/PoP.
Sajuuk
07-13-2015, 11:54 AM
OoW is when I quit. I was beginning high school when that expansion came out. That new final fantasy mmo came out around then and I was trying that out for a few months and eventually went to the vanilla wow. Since most of my RL friends started playing wow and I was alone in eq, I joined the band wagon (With no regrets seeing how shitty eq was becoming).
65 SK DE Raidena Nameless Server! I do regret not killing Quarm when my guild finally reached PoTime. O well.
Tiewon Shu
07-13-2015, 12:04 PM
What if, PoK books worked, and Nexus worked.
But PoK books were 1-way from PoK (requiring a Druid/wizard port up to PoK), allowing people to just get a port to PoK then they can make their way to the zone they wish.
But Nexus spires were 1-way from Nexus (requiring a Druid/Wizard port up to Nexus)
For me it's go hard or go home. Wiz/Druid Ports both ways. The Nexus/PoK books are what totally made a class defining role obsolete.
Bazaar I don't really get the hate for, I loved it but I could live without it if it meant we could get Luclin/PoP.
What I didn't like about the Bazaar is that most people loaded up all their wares on their avatar, then went to bed. If I saw an item I wanted to bargain or trade for, I could not, because the seller was not at the keys. Now if they implemented the bazaar but enforced an "at the keys rule," I would be more open to the idea.
So as not to derail the thread, I stopped playing after LDoN. By that time, the game became "WoW Assimilated," and instancing only added to the horror, leaving the EQ I knew as a shell of it's former glory.
falkun
07-13-2015, 12:49 PM
I quit when OoW was released. I was just starting to key/attune/whatever its called for GoD, so what was the point in purchasing the OoW expansion?
For me it's go hard or go home. Wiz/Druid Ports both ways. The Nexus/PoK books are what totally made a class defining role obsolete.
PoK books? yes, they're pretty stupid.
Nexus spires? WTF no, get a grip. Nexus spires are like boats, long waits and only one location per continent so long runs to get to and from the spires. The only port "customers" lost to Nexus spires were the ones who couldn't afford to tip or who would run and ride a boat anyway because they were too goddamn tight to tip, i.e. none. I am continuously boggled by people who insist Nexus ports had any real impact on the importance of port classes. "Oh noes, somebody can get from here to there in only 45 minutes without being extorted by Joe Illmannereddruid. Oh the horror! Oh the humanity!" Gimme a break.
Daldaen
07-13-2015, 01:42 PM
Agreed with Kaev on Nexus Spires. People ask for ports from OT to South Ro all the time so they can take the Oasis boat to TD, because the Oasis boat comes 3 times as often as the OT boat.
PoK books, if they are one way out of PoK, and the only way to get to PoK is a port... Then you have to get a port in order to click a book...
I speak as a long time Druid, PoK books were a god send. I didn't have to waste my time making other people's play time more streamlined. I could play the class I liked playing without such interruptions just as basically every other class could except clerics... Poor clerics. They didn't get released from those shackles until Mercenaries.
But I would be more than happy to allow PoK books to only be one-way portals if it means PoP is put in. Removing them entirely destroys the lore of the plane. All races were united in a quest for knowledge and to understand the gods' realms and the gods themselves.
fadetree
07-13-2015, 01:46 PM
Quit after PoP. GoD/OOW/whatever made me sad. PoP was the pinnacle of EQ, even with the books.
Agreed with Kaev on Nexus Spires. People ask for ports from OT to South Ro all the time so they can take the Oasis boat to TD, because the Oasis boat comes 3 times as often as the OT boat.
PoK books, if they are one way out of PoK, and the only way to get to PoK is a port... Then you have to get a port in order to click a book...
Not a fan of PoP, but if a server did this and also disabled binding in PoK --AND-- placed same bind restrictions on casters as on melees it might be ok.
Daldaen
07-13-2015, 01:56 PM
Not a fan of PoP, but if a server did this and also disabled binding in PoK --AND-- placed same bind restrictions on casters as on melees it might be ok.
Why the hate on Fire Pot 2.0 :(? People love talking about how they need the interdependence among classes and PoK killed that... Yet all these people carry charges WC caps, OT Hammer MQs, Invis Rings, Larrikans Masks. They love the convenience those items provide characters who can't port or invis themselves. Heaven forbid the game design allows a little more convenience for unguilded players and those who are on in off hours.
I wouldn't really care if you limited PoK to out only and no binding as a Druid. All my toons 60+ would end up being bound in PoTranq and just live there $$$.
Kayso
07-13-2015, 02:07 PM
Quit after PoP. GoD/OOW/whatever made me sad. PoP was the pinnacle of EQ, even with the books.
Voland
07-13-2015, 02:26 PM
Struggled to get through the Gates of Discord, and then Omens of War finally did it for me. I just could not connect the lore to the EQ I once knew. When EQ2 launched 2 months after OoW I was gone.
OOW added Taskmasters which offered quests, but the quest writing itself was horrible, like some intern wrote them.
wormed
07-13-2015, 03:51 PM
Why the hate on Fire Pot 2.0 :(? People love talking about how they need the interdependence among classes and PoK killed that... Yet all these people carry charges WC caps, OT Hammer MQs, Invis Rings, Larrikans Masks. They love the convenience those items provide characters who can't port or invis themselves. Heaven forbid the game design allows a little more convenience for unguilded players and those who are on in off hours.
I wouldn't really care if you limited PoK to out only and no binding as a Druid. All my toons 60+ would end up being bound in PoTranq and just live there $$$.
As a melee, I enjoy the aspects of needing Larrikan's, charged caps, etc. I don't want everyone to have everything. That ruins MMORPG's. Giving people some conveniences I'm ok with.
Anyway, I would LOOOooOOoOVE a PoP server with no boxing and a population like P99. I'd be there in a heart beat.
Huggz
07-13-2015, 04:10 PM
When I realized that my account would sell for 1500 < on eBay =)
fadetree
07-13-2015, 04:25 PM
hah! ^ wins teh thread
manard
07-13-2015, 04:43 PM
I bought EQ because Asheron's call wasnt out yet after I tried the free beta ending. Ended up buying both and constantly switching between the two.
I quit shortly after SoL because of my horrible crapbox first computer ever setup. I Was so excited to meet the ram requirements after I upgraded, but forgot to include the ram i was losing with the removal of the first stick.
Worked all summer for that stick of ram. I was ragey, but continued for a few weeks, making a human monk, figured Iksar was more leet, did a bag drop transfer then had internet go out for two days straight. Lost my amazing gear set, figured I was totally done but had a small nest egg.
let a friend of mine play at my house for a weekend, got him setup and left to go to some school function, the first thing he did was /petition and try to cyber the first GM that responded.
Never looked back after the ban, I was done and did Asheron's Call full time after that, then FFXI, and some WoW, but always had nostalgia about EQ. Very happy with P99 as I am at the level gear value wise / level I was at when I played so many years ago.
nhdjoseywales
07-13-2015, 05:30 PM
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/spawns/uqua-outline.jpg
yup, GoD and OoW did it for me. fuck that stupid proc on all the trash mobs
nhdjoseywales
07-13-2015, 05:42 PM
and apparently uqua is soloable now
fuck mudflation
HallyVee
07-13-2015, 05:55 PM
Never did quit, just one day I was no longer able to play on my friend's account.
Played Halo and some Playstation games, then got into WoW. Think I forgot about EQ, actually. Didn't realize I needed it until I realized how bad WoW sucked (which was in WotLK).
Pscottdai
07-13-2015, 09:36 PM
and apparently uqua is soloable now
fuck mudflation
Has been for several years now. Hell, I stopped playing several years back and my wizzy was over 25k HP/mana
Thulack
07-13-2015, 10:24 PM
Veil of Alaris was my last expansion.
applesauce25r624
07-13-2015, 10:39 PM
Didn't realize I needed it until I realized how bad WoW sucked (which was in WotLK).
wotlk sucking? wtf? what game were you playing
Pscottdai
07-13-2015, 10:44 PM
wotlk sucking? wtf? what game were you playing
WoW sucked from the beginning...he just didn't realize it until wotlk.
wormed
07-14-2015, 12:25 AM
wotlk sucking? wtf? what game were you playing
WoW went downhill with TBC. What game were you playing?
Pscottdai
07-14-2015, 12:51 AM
WoW went downhill with TBC. What game were you playing?
WoW catered to today's give it to me now crowd and had no challenge to it what-so-ever. That is why it was so hugely popular. I find it funny the number of people here that cry about things in P99 that were not classic or that were the reasons they left EQ but claim WoW was great when it provided the same convenience and lack of challenge from the very beginning that they are crying about.
Lump in the cartoony graphics and it was a silly game.
PVP Cleric
07-14-2015, 01:05 AM
WoW catered to today's give it to me now crowd and had no challenge to it what-so-ever.
At what point did you decide that all of WoW was so easy? After clearing AQ40 in classic? Killing Kael'Thas during TBC? After you got no lights during t8?
Priceline
07-14-2015, 03:49 AM
not to derail further into a wow vs. eq thread but:
WoW catered to today's give it to me now crowd and had no challenge to it what-so-ever...Lump in the cartoony graphics and it was a silly game.
Yea damn them for adding in raid mechanics (mostly "don't stand in the stupid" but at least they tried), instead of the bring enough healers and dps zergfest that was classic EQ raiding.
Cartoony just like all the other warcraft games, damn them for keeping with their art style.
Thiefboy777
07-14-2015, 07:58 AM
I quit live right before the current expansion TDS came out.
Some of the reasons:
- Overpowered trash, my 100 Ranger with max AA can tank one current content mob with chain heals... named mobs no way
- Cookie cutter itemization, all gear is on a template its all 99% the same, different tiers add about 100 hp/mana...its just boring unimaginative stuff.
- The last xpac I bought COTF was pretty small, the current one I didnt buy is smaller.
- The nerfing of xp in old zones, they made it so you cant go back an expansion and get any meaningful xp.
- The constant nerfing of classes fun abilities, Mage pets, SK swarm, ranger headshot, druid reptile, cleric swarm etc...
- overly annoying mob mechanics, trash that summons, immune to cc, immune to run speed changes... its basically "you must kill these mobs this way".
Just a few of the reasons I quit.
Why would they tune yard trash to hit like nameds? To encourage more grouping/boxing?
Daldaen
07-14-2015, 09:19 AM
Why would they tune yard trash to hit like nameds? To encourage more grouping/boxing?
Require Tanks instead of Ranger/Monks are reliable group tanks.
Danth
07-14-2015, 11:39 AM
Yea damn them for adding in raid mechanics (mostly "don't stand in the stupid" but at least they tried), instead of the bring enough healers and dps zergfest that was classic EQ raiding.
They meant well, but the road to hell is paved with good intentions: I *will* damn them for those mechanics because they make effective first-person gameplay almost impossible. EQ and its world was designed with the first-person camera in mind; Warcraft isn't and cannot be. In Warcraft the player has to be zoomed out just so he can see all the crap on the floor in the area around him. Then, so as to accommodate the use of third person as the standard view mode, interiors are made open and airy so as to provide space for the camera to pivot without clipping through walls. Because of this, small, cramped EQ-style dungeons like Guk or Solusek's Eye can't exist in that environment. Trying to build a complex dungeon with suitably large interiors results in a place so large and sprawling that most folks can't do it in a single gameplay session--thus explaining a major portion of why we've devolved to "dungeons" being little more than a couple of rooms connected by straight hallways. I don't think they intended that to happen, but it's the law of unintended consequences at work.
Trash mobs hitting like raid named is another ill-conceived idea that promotes single pulls over crowd control and therefore also promotes boring gameplay. Few people want to pull 4 or 5 monsters if any one of them will one-shot the enchanter then the healer without even time to react if someone accidentally breaks a mez. Stuff hitting for less, and looser tuning in general, is the very thing which allows recovery from sloppy pulls and the other sorts of emergent gameplay that make EQ's dungeons as memorable as they are.
With respect to the original thread purpose, I stayed with EQ longer than I should have--I permanently quit in spring 2004 along with a lot of other folks. I considered every expansion to make the game a little worse and if my friends didn't all play I probably would've quit a good 18 months earlier.
Danth
TarukShmaruk
07-14-2015, 12:04 PM
Gates of Discord was a pile of crap - not just because it was broken as fuck and horribly tested, but the content itself was shitty - the weird BDSM monsters just didn't fit.
Guess they felt like after planes of power they didn't have anything cool left to do.
myriverse
07-14-2015, 12:52 PM
the weird BDSM monsters just didn't fit.
Meh. BDSM is very medieval.
And Neriak was a rave from day one.
But I hated the names of the GoD zones.
wormed
07-14-2015, 01:02 PM
WoW catered to today's give it to me now crowd and had no challenge to it what-so-ever. That is why it was so hugely popular. I find it funny the number of people here that cry about things in P99 that were not classic or that were the reasons they left EQ but claim WoW was great when it provided the same convenience and lack of challenge from the very beginning that they are crying about.
Lump in the cartoony graphics and it was a silly game.
WoW vanilla was extremely difficult. Sorry to tell you. It had many elements of EQ especially requiring large raids. Molten Core in its first iteration was ridiculous. Same thing from going from basic Sebilis yard trash to Plane of Sky "trash." I remember my guilds first foray into MC, we had to give up after the first 4 mobs due to getting our asses pushed in. ADD: And to clarify, my guild was a "server first" competitor guild. We got things like Magmadar first, and one of only 2 guilds to take down pre-made easy Onyxia. We were on Kel'thuzad if anyone out there remembers. Horde Gone Wild!
Onyxia was also ridiculous pre-nerf.
Anyway, I won't defend WoW vigorously or anything. The game descended into exactly what you're saying. However, I'll always appreciate WoW vanilla. It was definitely a different beast. TBC wasn't bad but it definitely had all the elements of making the game awful, ie. itemization becoming ridiculous, battlegrounds killing world pvp, etc.
Cyrano
07-14-2015, 02:14 PM
TBC was awesome too. They added lots of value while still keeping the hardcore gamers happy which culminated in Sunwell.
I quite EQ because I started college. Dabbled a little bit on breaks and got to raid some but never really got into it again. Last raid I did was during LDoN but PoP was when I quit.
nhdjoseywales
07-14-2015, 02:28 PM
Gates of Discord was a pile of crap - not just because it was broken as fuck and horribly tested, but the content itself was shitty - the weird BDSM monsters just didn't fit.
Guess they felt like after planes of power they didn't have anything cool left to do.
the faceroll on the keyboard to name the mobs didnt help either
unleashedd
07-14-2015, 02:47 PM
battlegrounds killing world pvp
never pvp'd on EQ live, but world pvp in WoW sucked for me as a holy paladin. on the other hand, alterac valley must have been the most pvp fun i've ever had. this is why i started playin on r99, hoping for something similar...
Corpsed
07-14-2015, 03:13 PM
never pvp'd on EQ live, but world pvp in WoW sucked for me as a holy paladin. on the other hand, alterac valley must have been the most pvp fun i've ever had. this is why i started playin on r99, hoping for something similar...
And was it similar?
unleashedd
07-14-2015, 03:28 PM
And was it similar?
dunno, im only 42 :)
Celedor
07-14-2015, 04:30 PM
- overly annoying mob mechanics, trash that summons, immune to cc, immune to run speed changes... its basically "you must kill these mobs this way".
This really annoyed me. Eliminated kiting as a tactic, for example. What I loved about early EQ was how the players came up with different ways of doing/killing things.
I was very disappointed in EQ2 when I found out that I couldn't even sneak into the enemy city, no matter how imaginative I was (though I probably missed something). EQ became like that to me. That's not why I quit (a lot of my guild went to EQ2), but I was losing interest in EQ.
And those mob names in GoD made no sense.
Daldaen
07-14-2015, 05:11 PM
51+ trash summoning was also a horrible design decision.
Summoning should've been saved for named bosses and raid mobs. Random frogloks in Sebilis summoning is retarded though.
Let a group or Necros shamans and Druids have a root rot fest if they want to. Just like a balanced group can balance and a charm group can charm.
Just one of the reason Kunark was a bad expansion. Luclin/PoP fixed that stupid decision and made certain content favorable for one type of play style and certain content favorable for another.
Tiewon Shu
07-15-2015, 08:36 AM
PoK books? yes, they're pretty stupid.
Nexus spires? WTF no, get a grip. Nexus spires are like boats, long waits and only one location per continent so long runs to get to and from the spires. The only port "customers" lost to Nexus spires were the ones who couldn't afford to tip or who would run and ride a boat anyway because they were too goddamn tight to tip, i.e. none. I am continuously boggled by people who insist Nexus ports had any real impact on the importance of port classes. "Oh noes, somebody can get from here to there in only 45 minutes without being extorted by Joe Illmannereddruid. Oh the horror! Oh the humanity!" Gimme a break.
Spoken like a true non-porting class player. :)
myriverse
07-15-2015, 04:21 PM
Every port class I knew back in the day was grateful for the spires.
Sancta
07-15-2015, 04:48 PM
WoW vanilla was extremely difficult. Sorry to tell you. It had many elements of EQ especially requiring large raids. Molten Core in its first iteration was ridiculous. Same thing from going from basic Sebilis yard trash to Plane of Sky "trash." I remember my guilds first foray into MC, we had to give up after the first 4 mobs due to getting our asses pushed in. ADD: And to clarify, my guild was a "server first" competitor guild. We got things like Magmadar first, and one of only 2 guilds to take down pre-made easy Onyxia. We were on Kel'thuzad if anyone out there remembers. Horde Gone Wild!
Onyxia was also ridiculous pre-nerf.
Anyway, I won't defend WoW vigorously or anything. The game descended into exactly what you're saying. However, I'll always appreciate WoW vanilla. It was definitely a different beast. TBC wasn't bad but it definitely had all the elements of making the game awful, ie. itemization becoming ridiculous, battlegrounds killing world pvp, etc.
100% agree, Vanilla WoW before all the nerfs was a huge challenge, only a handful of guilds actually cleared that content pre-nerf. Glad to say I was in one them and it was exhilarating clearing it at the time.
Vanilla Wow had all the elements p99 EQ had, I mean the game was literally based straight off EQ, they mention it several times in their WoW documentaries on how it was made. I remember actually getting Mage ports from continent to continent because it was a ton faster and you needed other professions (blacksmithing engin etc) because each made an item for the other profession. And other things like having to actually go to the dungeon you're about to do.
curtischoy
07-15-2015, 04:50 PM
First of all, I am amazed that this has stayed (mostly) on topic for almost 130 posts.
I quit EQ after SoD came out. I had played for 10 years and I had conquered almost every expansion, group and raid. I never raided the end content in SoD because I stopped playing like 3 weeks after it dropped.
There is no particular reason I stopped playing. I just stopped. It wasn't even a decision, I just didn't play for a day. Then I didn't play for a week. Then I didn't play for a...
That was in early 2009 when I stopped. I found P99 early 2013. EQ was an amazing game and still remains my favorite video game of all time. The amount of memories I have from this game vastly surpass the amount of memories I have from every single other video game I have ever played combined. Some frustrating (it is EQ, after all) but most are very fond. I made several RL connections in my time in the game and some I still talk to today. P99 has done a wonderful job recreating this amazing game and more than that they have recreated the way I feel when I play. Nothing will ever bring it back, but I am glad that the P99 staff did such a damn good job trying.
I still think about my old guild Grey Horizon on the E'ci(Tunare) server.
Perhaps subconsciously you quit playing because the game got stale.
How people played up until a few years ago baffles me. Were you actually playing with other people, or just boxed/mercs?
Daldaen
07-16-2015, 04:33 PM
Perhaps subconsciously you quit playing because the game got stale.
How people played up until a few years ago baffles me. Were you actually playing with other people, or just boxed/mercs?
I would raid Sunday/Monday and then solo/box old raid content or level Alts during the other hours. I also ran open raids on Saturdays for the entire server to come to.
Being a Druid, charm killing remained the best leveling strategy up til 95. At 96/97, "Quint" kiting (Quadding but our new 91/92 and 96/97 AEs included 5 targets instead of 4) became better/faster exp. So I was able to get to the new level caps or new AAs via soloing (I abhor grind groups that are single pull, bullshit boring groups. Pull 10+ and let me root CC or don't invite me.)
During new expansions when there was progression/flagging to be done, typically we would do that with 4-6 real people and fill in with boxes / mercs as necessary. After everyone got flagged for raiding or the final tier of group zones those groups died off.
Really, beyond the first month or so of the expansions, you could complete all the progression you needed without much play time. It would take awhile if you were going for achievements. But as a raider you really just needed some progression, 4-5 group Augments and that's it. It was very casual. The Alts are what took forever to gear up in group gear though.
LGraves
07-16-2015, 06:08 PM
For me it was around '05. After Gates of Discord. I think my guild was just burnt out after so many years. I had to catch up to almost 6 years lost in RL and by that time it was too late.
We merged with another GMT guild around that time. (Tribunal server - Legendary/Companions) I think the game lost a lot of people then.
We tried to reform on WoW but being from the states when most of the guild was GMT it was hard to reconnect. It really sucked losing people you spent so many years with.
Fuck Wow & Fuck GoD :)
Masrn (P99 blue)
Selveti (Tribunal)
Paleman
07-16-2015, 07:11 PM
when I got to uqua. GoD was already a kick in the dick, Uqua was the death kick in the dick for me.
those fucking ghosts at launch in uqua were so god damn bad just thinking about that moment of raiding it for a day makes me want to punch baby jesus in the face.
sacman08
07-17-2015, 09:40 AM
I left after Lost Dungeions came out. Playing my main as a SK, I would be LFG for hours and never get to play for exp. For some reason the attitude on the servers was basically any warrior with any type of gear is a better tank than a SK. I remember several times being kicked or demoted as the tank of a Lost Dungeon group in favor of a warrior with worse gear than me for that reason alone.
Dynheart
07-17-2015, 10:48 AM
Planes of Power. The raiding guild I was in just wasn't manned for it (35-40 members tops). What was easy in Classic, Kunark, Velious, and Luclin. All of the sudden turned into an up hill, almost impossible battle.
That and among other things. Got as bad as only 6 people logging on. I enjoyed my journey, and work to get into that guild...PoP killed it. Matter of fact, PoP killed a lot of guilds that were on the smaller end, due to the very nature of that expansion.
I made a short comeback when GoD was at it's end, and played some of the OoW expansion. Played on Maelin Starpyre. Game was worse than it was in PoP. I can't quite put my finger on it. Trash mobs quading for 280s was a luclin era decked out Paladin's worst nightmare (GoD mobs weren't much better). Unfortunately, that's where everyone was at. So I guess OoW solidified my decision to leave.
I loved Classic, Kunark, and Velious era of EQ. I liked Luclin, not loved. So I wouldn't be opposed to it being added in the future (or most of it's features). But the game fell off at PoP IMO....I so looked forward to that expansion too.... :(
I would raid Sunday/Monday and then solo/box old raid content or level Alts during the other hours. I also ran open raids on Saturdays for the entire server to come to.
Being a Druid, charm killing remained the best leveling strategy up til 95. At 96/97, "Quint" kiting (Quadding but our new 91/92 and 96/97 AEs included 5 targets instead of 4) became better/faster exp. So I was able to get to the new level caps or new AAs via soloing (I abhor grind groups that are single pull, bullshit boring groups. Pull 10+ and let me root CC or don't invite me.)
During new expansions when there was progression/flagging to be done, typically we would do that with 4-6 real people and fill in with boxes / mercs as necessary. After everyone got flagged for raiding or the final tier of group zones those groups died off.
Really, beyond the first month or so of the expansions, you could complete all the progression you needed without much play time. It would take awhile if you were going for achievements. But as a raider you really just needed some progression, 4-5 group Augments and that's it. It was very casual. The Alts are what took forever to gear up in group gear though.
This reminds me of WoW dailies, you hated doing them but you still did them everyday :(
Leopaz
07-17-2015, 11:14 AM
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/spawns/uqua-outline.jpg
This is exactly when I quit too. I pulled for a guild to finally kill those two mobs, and when they bumped me to flag another monk instead, I just quit.
xhucknasty
07-17-2015, 02:19 PM
In Warcraft the player has to be zoomed out just so he can see all the crap on the floor in the area around him. Then, so as to accommodate the use of third person as the standard view mode, interiors are made open and airy so as to provide space for the camera to pivot without clipping through walls. Because of this, small, cramped EQ-style dungeons like Guk or Solusek's Eye can't exist in that environment. Trying to build a complex dungeon with suitably large interiors results in a place so large and sprawling that most folks can't do it in a single gameplay session--thus explaining a major portion of why we've devolved to "dungeons" being little more than a couple of rooms connected by straight hallways. I don't think they intended that to happen, but it's the law of unintended consequences at work.
I never thought about WoW's gameworld like that Danth. Insightful to say the least.
Quit shortly in SoL. Came back before PoP.
Quit in Omens of War, which was a fantastic expansion. Played the fuck out of it, but come November 2004, WoW simply won out.
Came back at the end of whatever expansion Solteris was in. That was a terrible expansion, but the next expansion (SoF) was really good. Played that until March 2008 or so, then went back to WoW.
JurisDictum
07-17-2015, 04:26 PM
I don't think I ever got past level 25 until PoP came out. I had family members and friends that played before then -- but I was into RTS. As I toured old content in PoP era, I really felt like I missed out on old EQ. There was a feel to it that no other game has captured.
I quit shortly before Omens so that I could play from the launch of WoW. I was right that WoW would win out. If i was older and more educated I probably wouldn't have predicted that. My logic was that Blizzard was a great company at the time, and SoE was garbage. I remember I was almost disappointed that WoW was comming out so soon -- but I never really looked back to EQ until WoW started to get very predictable (the 4th expansion or so).
I'm glad I got to experience classic EQ on this server -- or at least -- the closest anyone will get. However, it is a bit depressing having a character stay forever Velious locked IMO. It would be awesome to be able to transfer to progression severs that go to PoP and beyond.
Portasaurus
07-17-2015, 04:39 PM
mom stopped paying for it just as i was closing in on my first stack of succulent sap from soloing cacti in overthere
yellowtexted by mom's credit card!
zanderklocke
07-17-2015, 05:33 PM
Didn't buy Scars of Velious until after Luclin came out because I was 12 and did not have money. New graphics sounded cooler than an ice continent. Quit playing sometime during SoL and never went back. Tried out a free week a few years later but never actually resubscribed, felt like a different, empty game.
Beinen
07-18-2015, 12:55 AM
this
yes, so basic, you can't mess it up. compare that to upper/lower guk and bingo - ideas and theories like this are why EQ is lame after velious. some ideas from luclin were good, same with pop... but not much
captnamazing
07-18-2015, 12:57 AM
mom stopped paying for it just as i was closing in on my first stack of succulent sap from soloing cacti in overthere
yellowtexted by mom's credit card!
I quit around the time my brother quit and moved to college, because I only ever experienced Everquest by sitting and watching him play over his shoulder. And even that got me hooked.
Trelaboon
07-18-2015, 07:01 PM
I left for good when they enabled Wood Elves to become Beastlords - with a damn shrubbery as a pet...
Wait....what? I apparently quit before this happened, wtf
Trelaboon
07-18-2015, 07:06 PM
I quit when WoW launched and for me, Vanilla WoW was every bit as fun as any period of EQ. I wish I could relive those moments the same as EQ. I actually found nothing in particular ruined EQ for me. I loved luclin-PoP unlike most people, and probably the most fun I've ever had in EQ was during PoP. I was playing with a handful of real life friends who were all super into it and it really made it fun.
I think I decided to fully leave EQ when my friends stopped logging in. Only then did the game lose its allure for me.
Daldaen
07-18-2015, 07:18 PM
I quit when WoW launched and for me, Vanilla WoW was every bit as fun as any period of EQ. I wish I could relive those moments the same as EQ. I actually found nothing in particular ruined EQ for me. I loved luclin-PoP unlike most people, and probably the most fun I've ever had in EQ was during PoP. I was playing with a handful of real life friends who were all super into it and it really made it fun.
I think I decided to fully leave EQ when my friends stopped logging in. Only then did the game lose its allure for me.
Most people here loved PoP actually from what you will find out from posts here.
PoP was easily the best expansion to ever get released.
Cecily
07-18-2015, 07:21 PM
GoD was frustrating me and I saw the trailer for Lineage 2, which happened to be in open beta at the time. I went from playing EQ daily for 2 years to dropping it completely and never thinking about it again until P99. Lineage 2 was an amazing gaming experience for the first few expansions if you could handle the grind.
Riotgirl
07-19-2015, 04:32 AM
GoD was frustrating me and I saw the trailer for Lineage 2, which happened to be in open beta at the time. I went from playing EQ daily for 2 years to dropping it completely and never thinking about it again until P99. Lineage 2 was an amazing gaming experience for the first few expansions if you could handle the grind.
L2 was one of the games that always interested me when I quit EQ, but I never did make the leap of faith to play because the grind, or rather the unvarying nature of the grind in order to compete in PvP, put me off.
myriverse
07-19-2015, 08:00 AM
Wait....what? I apparently quit before this happened, wtf
They get like a baby treant or something. Started a little over a year ago. There was an online contest to pick one new race/class combo. Wood Elf BST won... I suspect shadiness. They beat out Dark Elf Ranger!!! WTF?
https://www.everquest.com/news/race-and-class-combo-clash-winner
RahlaeRuffian
07-19-2015, 09:13 AM
It was Dragons of Norrath...just seemed like I had missed quite a bit of content, even being in a raiding guild and all and they kept releasing new expansions so rapidly that the game just lost my interest.
PhelanKA
07-19-2015, 10:12 AM
Velious for me. After spending days killing giants and only seeing my faction move one rating I decided I was tired of the game. And I got balls deep in with Morrowind for years after that.
paladine
07-19-2015, 01:06 PM
First of all, I am amazed that this has stayed (mostly) on topic for almost 130 posts.
I quit EQ after SoD came out. I had played for 10 years and I had conquered almost every expansion, group and raid. I never raided the end content in SoD because I stopped playing like 3 weeks after it dropped.
There is no particular reason I stopped playing. I just stopped. It wasn't even a decision, I just didn't play for a day. Then I didn't play for a week. Then I didn't play for a...
That was in early 2009 when I stopped. I found P99 early 2013. EQ was an amazing game and still remains my favorite video game of all time. The amount of memories I have from this game vastly surpass the amount of memories I have from every single other video game I have ever played combined. Some frustrating (it is EQ, after all) but most are very fond. I made several RL connections in my time in the game and some I still talk to today. P99 has done a wonderful job recreating this amazing game and more than that they have recreated the way I feel when I play. Nothing will ever bring it back, but I am glad that the P99 staff did such a damn good job trying.
I still think about my old guild Grey Horizon on the E'ci(Tunare) server.
I remember you. I played a dwarf cleric in grey horizon too and quit right around sod as well. I moved to test for a time and that got boring. I do miss those raids with grey horizon though. Sarkus was a good raid leader.
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