View Full Version : I just stiffed a dial a Porter, oops
baalzy
08-07-2015, 10:24 PM
Hey, this goes out to the druid whose name that started with a D (I think) and was lvl 51 or 52. You picked me up in misty and ported me to Gd. I'm super sorry, I wasn't even thinking and just ran off after the port and totally stiffed you. I owe you a tip when I get back home and can log in. Hopefully I'll remember your name and can track you down... Terribly sorry.
milsorgen
08-07-2015, 10:30 PM
Don't feel bad. They have a monopoly on porting and use it to influence the free market in their favor, not ours.
They should be broken up really.
Jaleth
08-07-2015, 10:43 PM
Don't feel bad. They have a monopoly on porting and use it to influence the free market in their favor, not ours.
They should be broken up really.
Nope, We offer a service that's it, don't want to use us, don't.
Bboboo
08-07-2015, 10:57 PM
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=158884
webrunner5
08-07-2015, 11:00 PM
Don't feel bad. They have a monopoly on porting and use it to influence the free market in their favor, not ours.
They should be broken up really.
Agree. :( Not "Classic"
salimoneus
08-08-2015, 01:59 AM
It's a free market people, stop bitching about "monopoly", all they've done is band together so like-minded individuals can share common interests, help promote their cause. Anyone is free to use any other porter they wish, there is no limitation on choice whatsoever. So stop being lazy and start sending tells and build up a list of your own preferred porters, and quit the whining it just makes you look lazy.
captnamazing
08-08-2015, 03:03 AM
lol pras DAP
seriously though it's no monopoly. I still /who all druids from time to time man it's nbd.
dnatabar
08-08-2015, 03:39 AM
I'm a druid, and i take pride in NOT being part of Dial A Port.
I take pride in it, because i enjoy playing my druid, rather than just using it as a cash cow.
None the less, the druid is a sought after class because of its teleports, so its no wonder and no problem that a lot of people play it for the money. Them banding together is only natural, as it boosts their clientele.
Still, i consider a lot of people in Dial A Port for scrubs and greedy, but there are plenty of nice and helpful people there still ;)
Also, i have no problem making money by porting outside of DAP, but a mate of mine who is in DAP, dwarfs my income by far, so if Money is your goal, DAP is for you!
Jimjam
08-08-2015, 04:26 AM
Never had a problem with any DAP members.
Also never had a problem giving people ports with my unguilded wizard.
Never had a problem getting ports just from random passer bys either (misty thicket is a handy bind for a warrior on a corpse run! Restock on potions/bandages in RV then find a banking druid for a ride).
I think a lot of people just like to whine? If not please elaborate on exactly how DAP are so evil?
webrunner5
08-08-2015, 08:15 AM
We don't need a F'ing Union for Druids on here. :o Over and out. :( There is a million of them on here, not counting Wizards. Like we really can't find a Port??
Jimjam
08-08-2015, 08:36 AM
It's not really a union though, is it?
It's a tag some people wear.
If anything its like being listed in the phone directory.
Swish
08-08-2015, 09:01 AM
Jimmies were rustled about 18 months/2 years ago, some "do gooder" druid was offering ports for 20pp "or whatever you can afford" saying that it was wrong to expect people to pay 30-50pp
Can't remember her name, but I wonder if she's still around or whether something quite dark happened...
dnatabar
08-08-2015, 09:36 AM
Despite my personal opinion about the need for a Porting guild, and that they are all for the money instead of enjoying the class(es), there is one thing that really bothers me about DAP.
They are not allowed to do charity ports.
DeadlyReza
08-08-2015, 09:40 AM
Despite my personal opinion about the need for a Porting guild, and that they are all for the money instead of enjoying the class(es), there is one thing that really bothers me about DAP.
They are not allowed to do charity ports.
Explain... I have never seen a dial a port guildie force a payment, they always do free CR ports, what's not charity about that?
dnatabar
08-08-2015, 09:42 AM
I know they offer free CR, but a mate in DAP, told me that she was not allowed to do Charity ports except for CR ports.
Which i find is utter bullshit if its correct :(
DeadlyReza
08-08-2015, 09:47 AM
Interesting lol how do they track it, maybe we have uncovered something here after all, does the guild leader take an "insurance policy" of earnings? Lol
dnatabar
08-08-2015, 09:52 AM
Nah, as far as ive heard, the leader gets nothing, the guild gets nothing.
Which just makes the no-charity ports even less sane, as the guild or its leadership wont lose anything from it.
Also, i dont know if they enforce it, but she said that it was part of the rules that she was told to abide when joining.
Personally, if i were in DAP, i would ignore that rule, if i want to do a free port, i'l do a free port.
The one rule I heard about is simply that if you're not doing ports or able to do ports, you should go /anon so your DAP tag doesn't show.
It's being run basically like a business, with enforced productivity. Not sure what the fuss is about. The most annoying thing I find about them is just the 'Remember Dial A Port for all your porting needs!' they have to tag onto the ends of their port ads, mostly because I hate ads in general.
arsenalpow
08-08-2015, 11:11 AM
Tell-A-Port was a better name. GET IT?!?!!11
Nalen
08-08-2015, 11:20 AM
It is super nice to just /who all dial when you need a port. You know those people are porting so you don't have to worry about bothering someone who isn't. Also a good way for people to make money.
Dial a port is awesome. Are people seriously complaining about this?
Dirtynads
08-08-2015, 11:24 AM
Nah, as far as ive heard, the leader gets nothing, the guild gets nothing.
Which just makes the no-charity ports even less sane, as the guild or its leadership wont lose anything from it.
Also, i dont know if they enforce it, but she said that it was part of the rules that she was told to abide when joining.
Personally, if i were in DAP, i would ignore that rule, if i want to do a free port, i'l do a free port.
I'm very sorry you are sadly mistaken..If anything we encourage chariety ports more then anything the one exception we ask that people do not advertise the guild as a port for free service in any type of /ooc or /shout msgs they may have. Members are more then welcome to port whomever they wish for free at anytime. I do get a kick though outta all the peps who have "inside" knowledge of the guild though but dont seem to have a clue of what actually goes on within.
And again it seems we must touch on this once more...each porter determines what his/her time is worth. The guild its self has grown from the service guild of just port toons to all types of players, alot of which are playing mains and will move on to bigger and better things.
dnatabar
08-08-2015, 11:47 AM
I'm very sorry you are sadly mistaken..If anything we encourage chariety ports more then anything the one exception we ask that people do not advertise the guild as a port for free service in any type of /ooc or /shout msgs they may have. Members are more then welcome to port whomever they wish for free at anytime. I do get a kick though outta all the peps who have "inside" knowledge of the guild though but dont seem to have a clue of what actually goes on within.
And again it seems we must touch on this once more...each porter determines what his/her time is worth. The guild its self has grown from the service guild of just port toons to all types of players, alot of which are playing mains and will move on to bigger and better things.
I'm very glad to hear this, because i only know what i was told by my mate.
And perhaps she have misunderstood what was meant by the charity ports.
So i'm glad to be wrong for once ;)
error707
08-08-2015, 12:15 PM
I know they offer free CR, but a mate in DAP, told me that she was not allowed to do Charity ports except for CR ports.
Which i find is utter bullshit if its correct :(
Dyonosi here.
This is not a rule in Dial a Port. I think your friend might be confused with something. We tell new recruits not to use the word "Donation" in their /ooc message. As Dial a Port is a PP-service. Think of it like a job. We take time out of our game time to take of /anon and make an easy service for people to get around the game. Dial a Port gives freedom to all its members to do as they please with their ports.(the guild tag is for YOUR convenience) DAP doesn't take anything from its members (even tho you are welcome to hold/donate toward guild events/meetings and do PP give-aways in the guild, which we do) DAP offers its members a community of people who DO enjoy playing their classes (youd be suprised how many druids/wiz are on at a time but just /anon because they are enjoying their class) and enjoy the social aspect of guild chat. If you don't enjoy the service, dont use it. If you're gonna cry because we dont want to take time outta our game time to CR you, dont use us (I CR people constantly or whenever they ask for one in /say if i have the mana). The EQ community responds positive to our presence and appreciates what we do (or atleast they do in game). If you take issue with one of our members contact ANYONE from the guild and they will get you to the appropriate person for a complaint, or just /who all druid for your ports.
-D
Ravager
08-08-2015, 12:18 PM
Nope, We offer a service that's it, don't want to use us, don't.
I once tried to use another porter. I wanted a port from BB to WC and arranged a pick up at the druid rings. When I got there the druid that came to get me was laying dead in a nearby ditch and a DaP druid was there instead. He said if I ever tried again to use another porter the other druid would have some company.
Naethyn
08-08-2015, 12:31 PM
I prefer my ports to be certified 100% DAP. Sure, you can go try and save a few plats with an unregulated, donations based, scrub porter, but when you find yourself without lev (dreadlands) or waiting tens of minutes remember, you could have just /who all dial
DAP is a pay for service that provides the assurance I need for quality ports.
Ebener
08-08-2015, 01:38 PM
Hey Baalzy pretty sure I was that druid. Don't worry about it at all. I was probably at fault as well. Had 5 or 6 ports lined up and was just eager to get to the next destination quickly. I was the only druid online in the guild doing Velious ports last night for a good 3 hour stretch.
I would like to take this opportunity to shed some insight on my 8 months as a member of Dial A Port. DaP is not some exclusive club. There is no app process or waiting list. Everyone that can port is invited to join. Despite that, they've been able to attract some of the most positive, friendly, and helpful people in the game. We hold recruiting drives, guild contests, and server events (Bum Fights anyone?).
Most of my time is spent filtering through hundreds of /tell messages. Conversations range from arranging transportation, fielding questions from people who are playing this game for the first time, directions, CR and buff requests. Like the server's 411 line. On a busy night I'm playing whack-a-mole with tell boxes. Most likely while I'm porting you, I'm speaking with 4-5 other people at the same time. My worst enemy is my mana bar and I may have been known to port away without first inviting my fare to the group (whoops.)
The guild does not get a cut of any money. There's no percentage. The leader and officers get nothing from this aside from being helpful and kind people. There's two rules as far as I'm aware of. 1) Do not use the word donations. We work for tips. This is a service industry. 2) Go /anon if you are not actively porting. Pretty straight forward.
On the whole, the majority of the server "gets it." Be at or near the rings/spires. Send a tell stating where you are and where you need to be. Tip for services rendered. We realize not everyone is at the same point in the game. There are no set prices. The individual porters get complete control for how they run their "franchise" so you may find that you like going with one porter over another based on previous interactions.
So Hop on the Halfpint Express and remember to Dial A Port (/w all dial).
Whirled
08-08-2015, 01:42 PM
found a song for this occasion, no charge =P
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn8EEEpWcvw
Ebener
08-08-2015, 01:51 PM
I once tried to use another porter. I wanted a port from BB to WC and arranged a pick up at the druid rings. When I got there the druid that came to get me was laying dead in a nearby ditch and a DaP druid was there instead. He said if I ever tried again to use another porter the other druid would have some company.
RIP kekephee
Jaleth
08-08-2015, 01:51 PM
Just yesterday I was in Qeynos Hills leveling my level 4 shadowknight, when a level 2 wizard had asked in /ooc the best route to make a run across Antonica (north along High Pass or south along Rathe Mountains) to take the boat to Faydwer to eventually get to GFay. I offered to log in my wizard to pick him up in Qeynos Hill zone line to West Karana and port him over. I grabbed him and ported him to GFay, no charge. Stinks I went LD though because I wanted to bind him as well.
Even though being a member of DaP, I had no intention of asking or accepting 1 copper from this new player. Most if not all members in our guild follow the same moral guideline. We are there to help, making money when we can sure, but we give out as many free ports when neded as we charge for service. I would have given a lot in live to have a guild like DaP around when I started, but by Luclin then PoP, there would have been no need.
dnatabar
08-08-2015, 02:15 PM
I'm pleasantly surprised by the amount of people responding, supporting DAP.
Personally i have used DAP a few times as well, but since i mostly play a druid, its not been often.
And i'm in no way interested in bashing DAP unrightfully, which i did. So i'm sorry about that. The information i had was incorrect, and i apologize.
Most of you are doing a great service, although i will say, i have had a couple DAPs not being so friendly.
But that is by far the minority, so that's all good =)
You are mostly doing a good job, and i appreciate it, even more now that i know you aren't actively against charity ports.
absol
08-08-2015, 04:05 PM
The only time I've used DAP was as a lvl 12-ish newbie, and ran to surefall glade assuming the circle of sfg was in the game. Contacted a DAP druid who told me it wasn't, so I offered to run to NK (I wanted to go to WC). He said to sit tight, he was going to contact his wizzy friend and he'd send me a tell. All the time I asked him what the going rate is as I'd not done this before, but he wouldn't say.
I waited for around 30 mins in sfg, and got no tell so I made my way to NK and this time contacted another DAP as I didn't want to hassle the first guy. Again I asked how much it would be, twice iirc, but he didn't say. He picked me up and dropped me off in WC and I asked how much.
Him "20p"
Me "I don't have that much, I have around 14p and change"
Him "I can make it 60p if you like"
Me "Will you accept 14p?"
Him "whatever"
I tried to give him the money, but he was sitting down and I got the message that I couldn't trade with him. He disappeared then, I guess he logged off and the reason I couldn't trade was he was camping? Not sure. I hung around the WC rings just in case he came back because I felt bad for not paying but after about 15 mins i moved on. I felt like I cheated him. It was really awkward.
I have no problem at all with DAP, they provide a really useful service and its clear they make a lot of people happy. It works. The only thing I would say is if you have a newbie asking you what the going rate is for a donation/tip, don't pretend you didn't hear them asking you. They don't know what to give you, they probably want to give you whats fair, and thats why they're asking.
Nixtar
08-08-2015, 04:18 PM
Make an app. Like Uber but for ports!
Jenithia
08-08-2015, 04:23 PM
I freakin' love Dial A Port and use them all the time. Sometimes I don't even bother asking in guild if someone can port and I go right to /who all Dial. They're always super nice, super fast and I always tip them at least 50p. Plus these are people just trying to save up money for something they want, can't fault them for that. Sometimes they go on to join bigger guilds and sometimes they are alts of people we know ;)
jwargod
08-08-2015, 05:10 PM
All I know as a Wizard people constantly apologized in Kunark for EJ ports. Basically they said they were sorry when they didn't have enough plat for the tip, and they were tipping me 20-50p.
My jaw dropped and I asked: "what do the usual porters usually charge?"
50-100p+
Guzum
08-08-2015, 05:59 PM
I tried to get a pickup at KC the other day via DAP, and was told pickups are a flat 100p fee unless you're already at the rings then it's a minimum 50p to 60p charge. It's one of those things, if you don't tell me a cost, I'll always tip 50-100p anyways. But when you make it a fee, it kinda irks me, and I find a port elsewhere.
Mojo24
08-08-2015, 08:07 PM
Heh, I made a dial a port toon specifically to find out which one of my guildies were cheap bastards.
Well, I decided to skimp on mana and skip a heal or two on them. All in good fun, everyone got a good kick out of it.
Maelstrom
08-08-2015, 10:03 PM
Time to dispel a few rumors regarding DaP:
Rumor #1: DaP members never respond to my CR requests, they really don't want to do free CR rides at all!
Fact: This is certainly not the case. Last I checked, one of our core rules is that all CR rides should be free, no matter what. We understand how brutally frustrating it can be when you die and your corpse is half-way around the world. We've all been there. If you send a tell to a DaP member for a CR and they don't respond, please try again. At times things can get insanely busy and it is likely that we may have missed your tell.
Rumor #2: DaP is just a bunch of greedy fucks!
Fact: Well, most of us did join in hopes of getting more port requests, and thus more plat, but let's be honest here. The porting business is very up and down. You might make a good amount one day, and lucky to even make 125p the next. Do you want to spend a few hours of your time only making 125p? I certainly do not. But it's a donation based service, so the amount you make is entirely unpredictable. In fact, most of DaP are usually anon and are busy making real plats by farming or leveling up.
Rumor #3: So and so never responded, or charged an insane amount (100p) to come pick me up in FoB, what kind of service is this?
Fact: More often then not, there are only a few of us with dial tags up, meaning at any time we could get slammed with 4-5 ppl requesting pickups, CRs, etc. If someone does not respond, try again or ask another member. If we can't get you, we'll send the request into guild chat in the hopes that someone else can.
Not everyone is bound in OT or KC, places that aren't easily accessible. A lot of work goes into communication with clients and getting them from A to Z as fast as possible. If a DaP member says they will only do it for a set amount, it's because it's a long ass run and they will be missing out on other port requests during the time it takes to come get you.
Rumor #4: DaP is a monopoly, they are trying to take over services of the common folk! I bet the leader's an asshole and takes a weekly percentage from their members too!
Fact: There are no requirements to joining DaP. Anyone can join. They will make you an officer on your first day. No ones going to hit you up for a percentage lol. The leaders, namely Supremacydru and Afeni, are some of the most laid back people around. Hell, they throw fishing derby events for the guild. I'd hardly call that anything but awesome.
Rumor #5: The druids are making a killing with those Velious ports, yo.
Fact: This is 100% truth...
baalzy
08-09-2015, 12:42 AM
All I wanted to do was try to find the guy i forgot to tip lol... i love dial a port, knowing that whoever i send a tell to is 90% of the time going to be willing to port me...
joppykid
08-09-2015, 03:26 AM
I founded a Dial A Port awhile back and Supremacydru took over shortly after since I take frequent breaks. That dude is one of the most helpful people I've met on this server. Never thought I'd hear people try to spin on a porting guild. Make it sound like it's a pyramid scheme and he gets a cut lol. Anyways, awesome how big they've gotten. Suprem has done a fantasic job leading. Just like any guild, there will be assholes. If you come across an issue, take it up with Supremacydru or myself.
DeadlyReza
08-09-2015, 04:25 AM
I founded a Dial A Port awhile back and Supremacydru took over shortly after since I take frequent breaks. That dude is one of the most helpful people I've met on this server. Never thought I'd hear people try to spin on a porting guild. Make it sound like it's a pyramid scheme and he gets a cut lol. Anyways, awesome how big they've gotten. Suprem has done a fantasic job leading. Just like any guild, there will be assholes. If you come across an issue, take it up with Supremacydru or myself.
I seriously just wanted to say my post was in fun, I thought the sarcasm would have been quite transparent but I guess I can see how it could be seen as an accusation...
I have always had good deals with DaP, have never had one person request plat, and they have always responded to every tell I have sent. I am even looking at putting my druid in :)
Great guild, great idea, awesome bunch of peeps :D
joppykid
08-09-2015, 11:47 AM
I was referring more to what the other guy said about the no charity cases. We can never have too many in DAP. Love to have ya
Ranndom
08-09-2015, 11:50 AM
The only time I've used DAP was as a lvl 12-ish newbie, and ran to surefall glade assuming the circle of sfg was in the game. Contacted a DAP druid who told me it wasn't, so I offered to run to NK (I wanted to go to WC). He said to sit tight, he was going to contact his wizzy friend and he'd send me a tell. All the time I asked him what the going rate is as I'd not done this before, but he wouldn't say.
I waited for around 30 mins in sfg, and got no tell so I made my way to NK and this time contacted another DAP as I didn't want to hassle the first guy. Again I asked how much it would be, twice iirc, but he didn't say. He picked me up and dropped me off in WC and I asked how much.
Him "20p"
Me "I don't have that much, I have around 14p and change"
Him "I can make it 60p if you like"
Me "Will you accept 14p?"
Him "whatever"
I tried to give him the money, but he was sitting down and I got the message that I couldn't trade with him. He disappeared then, I guess he logged off and the reason I couldn't trade was he was camping? Not sure. I hung around the WC rings just in case he came back because I felt bad for not paying but after about 15 mins i moved on. I felt like I cheated him. It was really awkward.
I have no problem at all with DAP, they provide a really useful service and its clear they make a lot of people happy. It works. The only thing I would say is if you have a newbie asking you what the going rate is for a donation/tip, don't pretend you didn't hear them asking you. They don't know what to give you, they probably want to give you whats fair, and thats why they're asking.
Meh, never ask about a rate when it comes to porting. Give what you feel is right, add a little more if you got them to come to you, etc. Asking rates just makes shit weird for the porter, especially when they dont have one :P lol
Ranndom
08-09-2015, 12:04 PM
Time to dispel a few rumors regarding DaP:
Rumor #1: DaP members never respond to my CR requests, they really don't want to do free CR rides at all!
Fact: This is certainly not the case. Last I checked, one of our core rules is that all CR rides should be free, no matter what. We understand how brutally frustrating it can be when you die and your corpse is half-way around the world. We've all been there. If you send a tell to a DaP member for a CR and they don't respond, please try again. At times things can get insanely busy and it is likely that we may have missed your tell.
Rumor #2: DaP is just a bunch of greedy fucks!
Fact: Well, most of us did join in hopes of getting more port requests, and thus more plat, but let's be honest here. The porting business is very up and down. You might make a good amount one day, and lucky to even make 125p the next. Do you want to spend a few hours of your time only making 125p? I certainly do not. But it's a donation based service, so the amount you make is entirely unpredictable. In fact, most of DaP are usually anon and are busy making real plats by farming or leveling up.
Rumor #3: So and so never responded, or charged an insane amount (100p) to come pick me up in FoB, what kind of service is this?
Fact: More often then not, there are only a few of us with dial tags up, meaning at any time we could get slammed with 4-5 ppl requesting pickups, CRs, etc. If someone does not respond, try again or ask another member. If we can't get you, we'll send the request into guild chat in the hopes that someone else can.
Not everyone is bound in OT or KC, places that aren't easily accessible. A lot of work goes into communication with clients and getting them from A to Z as fast as possible. If a DaP member says they will only do it for a set amount, it's because it's a long ass run and they will be missing out on other port requests during the time it takes to come get you.
Rumor #4: DaP is a monopoly, they are trying to take over services of the common folk! I bet the leader's an asshole and takes a weekly percentage from their members too!
Fact: There are no requirements to joining DaP. Anyone can join. They will make you an officer on your first day. No ones going to hit you up for a percentage lol. The leaders, namely Supremacydru and Afeni, are some of the most laid back people around. Hell, they throw fishing derby events for the guild. I'd hardly call that anything but awesome.
Rumor #5: The druids are making a killing with those Velious ports, yo.
Fact: This is 100% truth...
You forgot Rumor #0...The forbidden Rumor...Does DAP really have weekly pool parties with newd wood elves?
webrunner5
08-09-2015, 12:30 PM
DAP is just like any other Druid, they made that character to make plat, plain and simple. Lets not sugar coat it. DAP is NOT free, same as someone that is not in the "Guild".
As a high level Druid porting like me, if you want to tip, tip, if you are on a CR nobody charges, duh, they have no Plat. If you are a low level toon take the Boat. I still do on my low toons, playing on here for over 5 years. What the hell is the hurry. You have no plat, why act like a charity case. WALK. :p
DAP please do not come off like you are some second coming of Jesus Christ. We have been Porting people since this game started, Druids and Wizards alike. It is NOT a free service, don't act like you are doing tons of people a favor. :o
And please don't tell me every DAP member is going to give up eating, sex, answering the phone, door, etc, in a heartbeat to port someone!!
mystang89
08-09-2015, 01:24 PM
Don't feel bad. They have a monopoly on porting and use it to influence the free market in their favor, not ours.
They should be broken up really.
Introduce PoK and problem solved lol
Jaleth
08-09-2015, 01:58 PM
DAP is just like any other Druid, they made that character to make plat, plain and simple. Lets not sugar coat it. DAP is NOT free, same as someone that is not in the "Guild".
As a high level Druid porting like me, if you want to tip, tip, if you are on a CR nobody charges, duh, they have no Plat. If you are a low level toon take the Boat. I still do on my low toons, playing on here for over 5 years. What the hell is the hurry. You have no plat, why act like a charity case. WALK. :p
DAP please do not come off like you are some second coming of Jesus Christ. We have been Porting people since this game started, Druids and Wizards alike. It is NOT a free service, don't act like you are doing tons of people a favor. :o
And please don't tell me every DAP member is going to give up eating, sex, answering the phone, door, etc, in a heartbeat to port someone!!
I agree with you in walking, it makes the world feel bigger, but no where did we say we are the saviors of Norrath, not even close. We off a service, just like you, we just simply state it as a service, not a donation. Yeah we are here to help AND make plat.
Like I am sure others sell loot in EC to help others, telling them that plat is not necessary but donations are greatly appreciated. Players do it to make money, to eventually buy the items they covet, let's face it. Sellers are helping other players to get loot they don't have the time or means (guild raids for example) to get, and offer it to them for a price. Players are offering their service for an item, if the players don't want to buy it (easy way), they can go farm it (long way). You just give them the option, same as DaP. We offer ports, sometimes cheap, sometimes free, but if paying for it is out of reach, take the long run.
Jaleth
08-09-2015, 02:00 PM
Introduce PoK and problem solved lol
This is true, though it won't happen on this server
joppykid
08-09-2015, 03:49 PM
DAP please do not come off like you are some second coming of Jesus Christ. We have been Porting people since this game started, Druids and Wizards alike. It is NOT a free service, don't act like you are doing tons of people a favor. :o
What are you talking about? lol. No one is acting like we're doing a favor. This guild was made to help porters coordinate ports and make it easier for the server to get around. Of course we want to make money, who doesn't. If someone can't afford a tip it's not a big deal. Everyone has needed a port at sometime or another and not had anything on them, or is just flat broke. As put about 12 other times in this thread, if you don't like DAP don't use it. Somewhere else someone is using /who all dial.
Also, thanks for clearing that up that Dial A Port didn't create Druids and Wizards. I could have sworn they were my idea.
indiscriminate_hater
08-09-2015, 04:19 PM
Dial a port died for your sins
Ranndom
08-09-2015, 04:32 PM
What are you talking about? lol. No one is acting like we're doing a favor. This guild was made to help porters coordinate ports and make it easier for the server to get around. Of course we want to make money, who doesn't. If someone can't afford a tip it's not a big deal. Everyone has needed a port at sometime or another and not had anything on them, or is just flat broke. As put about 12 other times in this thread, if you don't like DAP don't use it. Somewhere else someone is using /who all dial.
Also, thanks for clearing that up that Dial A Port didn't create Druids and Wizards. I could have sworn they were my idea.
Thats the beauty of dial imo.../ all dial over / all druid anyday lol
joppykid
08-09-2015, 05:56 PM
Thats the beauty of dial imo.../ all dial over / all druid anyday lol
It's nice because if someone shows up under /all dial, theyre available to port. Shouldn't be saying no!
capco
08-09-2015, 07:23 PM
It's nice because if someone shows up under /all dial, theyre available to port. Shouldn't be saying no!
Exactly. Having the tag on is equivalent to a taxi from a cab company having their service light on; the available taxis are easily recognizable. This is the essence of DAP as far as the customer is concerned.
EDIT: And to whoever doubts the character of the current leader: I've known the guy for years before he even played P99 and he is one of the nicest, most sincere people I've ever had the privilege to know.
I've never had a bad interaction with these people. And they were nails getting people to and from Vox the other day.
Alanus
08-10-2015, 02:30 PM
Don't feel bad. They have a monopoly on porting and use it to influence the free market in their favor, not ours.
They should be broken up really.
No they don't. I am an unguilded 60 druid and get plenty of port requests.
stavio
08-10-2015, 03:12 PM
My main is a druid and has never and will never be a part of dial-a-port. But I approve of what they do, it's their time and if they want to provide a service for others, that's great. I use them often when I'm not on my druid. I too have no problems getting ports if I'm bored enough to want to do so, even with /role or /anon on people still seem to be able to find me.
So thanks Dial-a-port for using you're time to provide the server with a much needed service.
DevGrousis
08-11-2015, 01:20 AM
Don't feel bad. They have a monopoly on porting and use it to influence the free market in their favor, not ours.
They should be broken up really.
damn this is how real p99Norrath is: There are legit conspiracies about corporations influencing the market in their favor to earn massive profits, lmao. and
Nope, We offer a service that's it, don't want to use us, don't.
And then they answer exactly how a RL greedy ass corporation does lol!
I LOVE YOU ROGEAN!
absol
08-11-2015, 08:17 AM
When leveling my Druid up on live back in the day, I thought I'd get in on this lucrative porting market.
After doing it on and off for about a week, I just went back to leveling and probably made the same or more money that way. It wasn't the goldmine I thought it would be, but the grass always looks greener on the other side. I guess its an ok way of making cash inbetween household chores or when you don't have the time to commit to a group (and on occasion you'd get a tell offering you 200pp for a port, but that was rare). But it wasn't my thing really.
When KEI was a thing, I half had it in my mind to level up an Enchanter and sit in PoK all day, but that thought lasted all of 5 seconds and I remembered that thing about the grass. You did read what I said earlier about grass didn't you? No you didn't. You just skipped through this and now you're going to pick one thing out the one thing you did read and respond to it but I've already addressed it. Why do I even bother
Lady Julae
08-11-2015, 09:54 AM
Despite my personal opinion about the need for a Porting guild, and that they are all for the money instead of enjoying the class(es), there is one thing that really bothers me about DAP.
They are not allowed to do charity ports.
THAT is not true. I can personally account several times DAP ported me for free so I could get my corpse.
Jaleth
08-11-2015, 12:22 PM
damn this is how real p99Norrath is: There are legit conspiracies about corporations influencing the market in their favor to earn massive profits, lmao. and
And then they answer exactly how a RL greedy ass corporation does lol!
I LOVE YOU ROGEAN!
Woot! I was quoted on how big businesses operate. Never thought I wold see the day!:)
But if you ever come across a fungi, I'll buy it off you for 5 plat or maybe less, or I'll label you as big business corporate greed! :D
Agreed?
Robbintha Hood
08-11-2015, 12:36 PM
DAP ruined my port business, but its free market...so I don't really care. I decided to stop spamming /ooc and /auction and let whomever needs a port msg me. Furthermore, they shouldn't be disbanded because of people thinking its "not classic." It may have not been classic on the server(s) you played on, but it may have been on another. Stop QQing about your lack of income because of smarter people with common goal.
joppykid
08-11-2015, 12:58 PM
It's only not classic because no one thought of the idea lol. I would imagine somewhere on a server there was something similar.
It's only not classic because no one thought of the idea lol. I would imagine somewhere on a server there was something similar.
When they added chat channels (forget the expansion, post cIassic I think, Luclin maybe?) one of the first channels that appeared on Tunare server was specifically for requesting ports. (It might have been called "taxi", can't recall for certain.)
LethClaypool
08-14-2015, 01:33 PM
I have a reputation as a bit of a "good guy druid" when it comes to porting people and helping strangers out. I joined DAP about two months before I disappeared as I intended to retire Leth.
The only rule as far as charity ports involved not advertising it in your hotkey. I still port people regardless of whether they pay or not. I simply took the "donations accepted but never required" out of my seas of cheese hotkey.
I promise though, you can make bank regardless if what guild you're in. All about customer service and marketing ladies and gents. Have fun.
Alanus
08-14-2015, 01:50 PM
I have a reputation as a bit of a "good guy druid" when it comes to porting people and helping strangers out. I joined DAP about two months before I disappeared as I intended to retire Leth.
The only rule as far as charity ports involved not advertising it in your hotkey. I still port people regardless of whether they pay or not. I simply took the "donations accepted but never required" out of my seas of cheese hotkey.
I promise though, you can make bank regardless if what guild you're in. All about customer service and marketing ladies and gents. Have fun.
You can make a ton if you do transfer for people, too. I.e. move items from EC tunnel mule to a twink in Misty.
LethClaypool
08-14-2015, 04:31 PM
That's part of what I do as well. Especially when it comes to ikky alts, there's money to be made. Hell sometimes I just stick around and chuck buffs at ramp in Field of Bone.
I have never been a part of Dial a Port on my (now) level 57 druid. I tend to port under level 20 for free, and I've never charged anyone for a CR port. I find that if you offer good customer service (i.e. levitates, SoW, etc), make sure that you're available, you find people asking you to port them over and over. I don't advertise porting other than I take my /roleplay off when I'm available to port people.
I don't mind Dial a Port. I use them on my cleric all the time. I have never had a problem with any of them. I pay them reasonably for the service they provide. If you don't want to use their service then don't. But don't bitch about it here.
Swish
08-14-2015, 05:30 PM
I have never been a part of Dial a Port on my (now) level 57 druid. I tend to port under level 20 for free, and I've never charged anyone for a CR port. I find that if you offer good customer service (i.e. levitates, SoW, etc), make sure that you're available, you find people asking you to port them over and over. I don't advertise porting other than I take my /roleplay off when I'm available to port people.
I don't mind Dial a Port. I use them on my cleric all the time. I have never had a problem with any of them. I pay them reasonably for the service they provide. If you don't want to use their service then don't. But don't bitch about it here.
In my not too extensive career as a wizard on live I was always happy to port people for very small amounts or for free as long as I didn't have to do the running to collect them.
Since picked up a wizard on red since joining P99 and most people just naturally tip these days. I don't mind porting people around if it's quiet and they can't get somewhere - Euro hours gets a bit difficult if you hate boats.
There was literally a guild on Luclin called "Taxi"
As in, "Need a ride? Hail a Taxi."
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