Holgresh Elder Beads 75k+ ???

[Beldon]

Just wondering why Holgresh Elder Beads (http://wiki.project1999.com/Holgresh_Elder_Beads) are so expensive?

Slight saves vs cold/fire/magic with a clicky Eye of Zomm.

I have a 25 Mage with an Elemental armour spell and Eye of Zomm. For 75k I can just follow you around :P

Honestly I just wanted to know if there is a use for Eye of Zomm I am not familiar with that makes it so special.

I appreciate the schooling :)

[azeth]

Theyre not expensive, they're 40k.

Don't let anyone tell you different because they are actively being bought and sold for ~40k.

[Colgate]

it's an incredible tool for pulling for monks

necros and SKs can summon one and use it to heal themselves with lifetaps and bond of death spell line

for all other classes, there isn't much of a use

[azeth]

for all other classes, there isn't much of a use

do you even everquest bro? think outside the box.

[Beldon]

Thanks for the info!

[Thulack]

Just wondering why Holgresh Elder Beads (http://wiki.project1999.com/Holgresh_Elder_Beads) are so expensive?

Slight saves vs cold/fire/magic with a clicky Eye of Zomm.

I have a 25 Mage with an Elemental armour spell and Eye of Zomm. For 75k I can just follow you around :P

Honestly I just wanted to know if there is a use for Eye of Zomm I am not familiar with that makes it so special.

I appreciate the schooling :)

Searching the internet would also yield you answers.

[Pyrocat]

They will also go down in price the longer they're around. They eventually (6 months in) get removed from the game, which is why the price is so high.

The reason they are valuable at all is that unlimited casts of Eye of Zomm is incredibly useful for necromancers who can lifetap the Eye to heal themselves without having to engage a mob in combat (that could potentially kill them, or resist, or is mezzed .etc). It's extra useful to necromancers who have the VP staff that gives them a mana free lifetap dot.

Also useful to monks for pulling!

Granted there are some tinkered items that give the same effect and can be recharged at merchant for cheap, but it's 5 charges per item and bag space is at a premium.

[captnamazing]

knowledge of an impending nerf makes them valuable

[Daldaen]

it's an incredible tool for pulling for monks

necros and SKs can summon one and use it to heal themselves with lifetaps and bond of death spell line

for all other classes, there isn't much of a use

Bards can proc epic on it before fight
Everyone can proc OT hammer out of dangerous place if you can summon the eye where it won't get killed if you're somewhere dangerous like the bottom of sleepers tomb or back of ToV.
Eyes in classic left invisible corpses, you could use Track Corpse Spell + Bind Sight and set up CotH chains
Everyone can use them to rabbit pull, I've used Stalking probes a decent amount on my Druid and Cleric
Eyes are level 1 and aggroed at greater distances allowing you to pull through locked doors among other things.

I'm sure there are other uses I'm not thinking of currently.

[Colgate]

you can also proc things on player corpses, eyes don't leave corpses here, and i guess the proc on the eye itself thing doesn't work on red since you'll be in pvp range and kill it instantly

the only time i feel a need to use an eye of zomm to pull is for shit in ToV, which no other class should be doing really

it's useful no doubt, but it shouldn't be considered an ultra-valuable gamebreaking item for anything other than monks, necros, SKs

[captnamazing]

Mm cool thought to use for hammer procs outta dangerous locs.

I've been wondering if I could use it to pull on my halfling warrior utilizing sneak. However my guess is that even if Filbus lands a successful sneak once eye of zomm is active, the eye does not count as having sneak. SO i'll just keep mine safely stored in my anus.

[Lamil]

Mm cool thought to use for hammer procs outta dangerous locs.

I've been wondering if I could use it to pull on my halfling warrior utilizing sneak. However my guess is that even if Filbus lands a successful sneak once eye of zomm is active, the eye does not count as having sneak. SO i'll just keep mine safely stored in my anus.

Way to keep it nice and safe

[Fennik]

Another use is that you can stand against a wall and summon the eye. This will warp the eye somewhere randomly in a zone which is super helpful for non-tracking classes checking mobs deep in DN, ToV, SS, ST, etc.

[Drakaris]

They will also go down in price the longer they're around. They eventually (6 months in) get removed from the game, which is why the price is so high.

The reason they are valuable at all is that unlimited casts of Eye of Zomm is incredibly useful for necromancers who can lifetap the Eye to heal themselves without having to engage a mob in combat (that could potentially kill them, or resist, or is mezzed .etc). It's extra useful to necromancers who have the VP staff that gives them a mana free lifetap dot.

Also useful to monks for pulling!

Granted there are some tinkered items that give the same effect and can be recharged at merchant for cheap, but it's 5 charges per item and bag space is at a premium.

I would say pulling is the main pro. As a necro I can always find something to root / tap when im solo... In raids you should have regen anyways...

[Ella`Ella]

As with all things, Elder beads are only worth what someone is willing to pay for them. If you stop offering 50, 60, 70k and start offering 5-10k, sellers will be forced to sell at that price point or not sell at all.

If sellers feel that 5k isn't worth sitting on a list for 10 days straight before their turn to loot comes around, they'll stop and the camp will open up for people to farm it normally.

[Ambrotos]

Necros could life steal from the eyes on live.

[Drakaris]

Necros could life steal from the eyes on live.

They can do the same here I think - at least I can tap other people's eye of zomm on a red server. Eye of zomm is considered a pet and you can only have 1 pet up at a time, so if you have a high level spec pet already or a charmed pet, you can't really use the eye. Novelty for a necro, necessity for a monk or SK puller, especially when death touches are involved.

[Herp]

Seen plenty bought and sold at 40k plat range.

[Spyder73]

The casting time is what makes this item a novelty item IMO, it quickly becomes more of a hassle than its worth - much more efficient to just pull normally. It is a niche item with limited usefulness.

The *only* thing I can see this item being useful for, and don't get me wrong its a very useful thing, is for a monk to split pull a room of casters. LoS yourself, eye, then FD before they come around the corner, sneak tag. This can be done w/o the eye pretty easily, but this makes it a piece of cake. So definitely useful in small group situations without a enchanter. ToV is another example of a good place to use the eye since the mobs hit so hard and there can be long pulls, but even then we usually use a team of monks.

I bought a Singing Steel Helmet for 500pp on my Bard...that's about what I think of Elder Beads should be worth.

The cast time is what kills the beads, its like 10s cast, and lasts for like 20s - situationally useful at best, and only for monks IMO.

[Daldaen]

SS Helm is 10, Elder Beads cast in 4 seconds.

Stalking Probes however are instant.

There are plenty of times this is useful, I've used stalking probes on my Cleric and Druid to do pulls not possible without them. However the times when such pulls are necessary to do, are few.

[Ravager]

They're not useful at all. I'll take them off your hands.

[Tiewon Shu]

it's an incredible tool for pulling for monks

necros and SKs can summon one and use it to heal themselves with lifetaps and bond of death spell line

for all other classes, there isn't much of a use

Any monk worth their salt doesn't need a item to do their job.

[Swish]

It's like Daldaen when he posts in the solo artist challenge thread declaring he's using puppet string charges. Some people just use it because they can.

If it speeds things up in a raid situation I can't see the harm in it.

[Man0warr]

Try pulling the Well area in Siren's Grotto without dying.

[Pipip]

If you have the item and it helps you do your job, why wouldn't you use them? The contractor who worked on my house recently used nail guns to frame a wall. I'm sure he could have used his hammer instead, but I'm not paying him extra to make the job harder.