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Thorny
08-23-2015, 08:25 PM
So I've spent the last week parked in DN trying to get one of these to drop. So far I've killed 140 of the spiders with no luck. The majority of the spiders I've killed have been from near and around the zone in area. From the research I've done it seems that any spider can drop the carapace. Can anyone confirm this from experience here on P99?

If I had known it would take this long, I would have just farmed the coin to buy one, but these spiders have made it personal. Plus the xp is decent. I really want to ride this out and finish what I've started, but I want to make sure I'm not handicapping myself by mainly killing the entrance area spiders.

Any advice would be helpful!

Man0warr
08-24-2015, 12:25 AM
Magelo says it has a 1% drop rate, and P99 devs have been known to use that data.

Thorny
08-24-2015, 12:45 AM
That is good to know. Any idea on if it matters on the location of the spider in the zone? I doubt it would, but just want to make sure i'm not missing anything! Thanks for the info.

Pscottdai
08-24-2015, 07:14 AM
Have farmed 7 of them as I worked though 58 and now most of 59. Longest streak to get one is 138, shortest is 14. Average of total kills/7 = 61

I have gotten them all from the zone in mobs back to mobs just past the wall - so any spider basicly

koros
08-24-2015, 01:32 PM
Have farmed 7 of them as I worked though 58 and now most of 59. Longest streak to get one is 138, shortest is 14. Average of total kills/7 = 61

I have gotten them all from the zone in mobs back to mobs just past the wall - so any spider basicly

That works out very close to the expected 1 per 69 kills you would expect at a 1% drop rate.

Thorny
08-24-2015, 02:30 PM
Awesome, thanks for that information. Looks like I just need to keep plugging away! Appreciate the help folks.

kaev
08-24-2015, 02:58 PM
That works out very close to the expected 1 per 69 kills you would expect at a 1% drop rate.

Um, at 1% you'd expect 1 per 100 kills overall, with 50-50 odds of getting one in 69 tries (0.99^69 ~ 0.4998).

Thorny
08-25-2015, 01:29 AM
Well RNG officially hates me. 172 kills now, with no luck haha.

Man0warr
08-25-2015, 10:38 AM
Um, at 1% you'd expect 1 per 100 kills overall, with 50-50 odds of getting one in 69 tries (0.99^69 ~ 0.4998).

It's actually closer to 1.12% drop rate, going by Magelo's data - they just round down.

Still should have gotten one by 100 kills, but not big enough sample size that he could just be slightly unlucky.

maestrom
08-26-2015, 09:20 AM
I'll sell you one if you want.

Thorny
08-26-2015, 12:52 PM
I'm broke unfortunately, which is why I'm camping it in the first place. Also I kind of want to see this through, seeing if I can quantify exactly how unlucky I can be. Thanks though!

Sizar
08-26-2015, 02:35 PM
What level are the spiders and at what level can i solo them reasonably well as an epic'd shaman?

Man0warr
08-26-2015, 03:03 PM
High 40s/low 50s

Thorny
08-26-2015, 03:13 PM
I started at 55 and it was doable. They are fairly resistant and they attack very quickly. I use slow and malo on them even when root rotting due to the possibility of be I g phased into other spiders/traps or aggroing a hidden spider. Now at 56 it's easier, but I still only take one one at a time.

koros
08-27-2015, 11:14 AM
Um, at 1% you'd expect 1 per 100 kills overall, with 50-50 odds of getting one in 69 tries (0.99^69 ~ 0.4998).

You're right. I did the math on 50/50 odds without thinking.

Charlievox
08-27-2015, 01:44 PM
See! EQ improves your Math skills!
You have become better at mathematics(100)!

Thorny
08-30-2015, 03:56 AM
Well, currently at 302 kills without seeing one. I must be fantastically unlucky =(

Pscottdai
08-30-2015, 05:07 AM
Well, currently at 302 kills without seeing one. I must be fantastically unlucky =(

end your pain, end your suffering, buy the one I have for 9k !

sorry about your bad luck man, I know I was frustrated on my first one at only 138 kills.

Thorny
08-30-2015, 09:04 PM
Wish I could man. Unless you'd take a Froglok Scale Chestplate for trade? :) I marked a map of DN with red X's with the spawns that I've been killing. These the same ones you mentioned that you got yours from?

http://i62.tinypic.com/o08613.gif

Pscottdai
08-30-2015, 10:15 PM
yup those are the same ones

Thorny
08-30-2015, 10:27 PM
Good deal. Well, looks like I'm in it for the long haul, at least until the XP starts slowing down. Thanks again!

Pscottdai
09-06-2015, 04:18 AM
you ever get one ?

Thorny
09-06-2015, 01:53 PM
I did finally get one at 375 kills haha. Thanks for all the guidance :)