View Full Version : 10x the people complaining about size of Empire than are in Empire
Edgat
08-26-2015, 03:31 PM
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derpcake
08-26-2015, 03:33 PM
they can't stand each other
forever alone i guess
Edgat
08-26-2015, 03:36 PM
Right so instead of accepting their own short comings they blame it on empire.
It is not empire's fault that you are either power hungry, annoying, or terrible
Problem is there are tons of small cliques that can't work together because they all have people who are scared to lose their grip on power, but that is Empire's fault
Coffee
08-26-2015, 03:40 PM
5 continents with raid mobs currently UP
Rekrul
08-26-2015, 03:46 PM
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If these people don't like zergs, why would you expect them to create one?
Gnomegrown2
08-26-2015, 03:48 PM
The only way people on this server can stand eachother is if loot is already flowing
almost all the people that play here are legitimately retarded.
heartbrand
08-26-2015, 03:49 PM
I guess I just don't get the complaint of people not in Empire. If you don't want to "zerg", aka field the numbers needed for most of the content, then why do you care that Empire does? There's plenty of Empire to kill during the day outside of raids. What is it you guys want exactly?
Malevz
08-26-2015, 03:53 PM
HB it's scary how much sense you've been making in your recent posts.
magician
08-26-2015, 03:54 PM
they tried. (good guys) (yi(K)es) (c)
fiegi 8.0
08-26-2015, 03:55 PM
problem is everytime a new guild pops up and its lead by jibekn or lite and that never ends well i dk why
Gnomegrown2
08-26-2015, 04:02 PM
problem is everytime a new guild pops up and its lead by jibekn or lite and that never ends well i dk why
this is actually funny:)
derpcake
08-26-2015, 04:02 PM
excessive altruism
Pikrib
08-26-2015, 04:20 PM
Another Empire circle jerk thread.
Awesome!
Farzo
08-26-2015, 04:23 PM
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That sounds fantastic and they should call themselves <Good Guys>.
Drakaris
08-26-2015, 04:29 PM
Wow @ the empire circle jerk.
R99 is a pyramid scheme, the only way to defeat an established guild is for another guild leader to out neckbeard them.
Lite and jibekn aren't the only leaders that have risen, everyone forget about tmo already?
Empire does not want competition, stop pretending like you do.
Eslade
08-26-2015, 04:33 PM
Wow @ the empire circle jerk.
R99 is a pyramid scheme, the only way to defeat an established guild is for another guild leader to out neckbeard them.
Lite and jibekn aren't the only leaders that have risen, everyone forget about tmo already?
Empire does not want competition, stop pretending like you do.
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Pikrib
08-26-2015, 04:37 PM
That sounds fantastic and they should call themselves <Good Guys>.
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iruinedyourday
08-26-2015, 04:39 PM
my short answer? empire is made up of all the cool and normal people.. if you dont have a tag its like wearing a sign that says 'im a huge fuckn retard'
http://memecrunch.com/meme/3NWXT/i-m-the-real-mvp/image.png?w=400&c=1
Tassador
08-26-2015, 05:35 PM
Drakar like I don't take this shit serious and then recalls every fucking second to a tee in norrath.
#the move psycho #red bull
jestingoff02
08-26-2015, 05:40 PM
5 continents with raid mobs currently UP
Naw antonica is clear!
Shjade
08-27-2015, 04:40 AM
I guess I just don't get the complaint of people not in Empire. If you don't want to "zerg", aka field the numbers needed for most of the content, then why do you care that Empire does? There's plenty of Empire to kill during the day outside of raids. What is it you guys want exactly?
Outsider's perspective (not interested in raiding, on either server, myself): from what I've been reading the last month or so, after screening out the bullshit (aka 99% of the content), I get the impression the foundation of the complaint is, essentially, a body monopoly. Empire is so large on such a small server that they control most of the eligible raiding bodies on the server, which makes it difficult to form raiding parties outside of Empire using the rather limited remaining 50-60 population.
Whether or not that's accurate, I can't really say. That's just how it's seemed to me from what I've seen posted.
AzzarTheGod
08-27-2015, 05:57 AM
They want daddy 'gean to sanction and dismantle the only raiding guild capable of killing any mobs.
Wheres the proof <Empire> stifles competition?
140 VS 90 in Karnors Castle.....You quit contesting after you lost 1 fight. :o
#FACTS
Lasher
08-27-2015, 07:48 AM
Tmo and scum both field about 20-25 each. Id like to see them merge. I offered to tank Vindi for TMO.
Merge up, Empire for the most part leaves TMO and Scum alone. Plenty of targets Empire doesnt go after that would be upgrades for a TMO/Scum. Wtov dragons, Kunark, Velk, Vindi.
Jazzy
08-27-2015, 07:55 AM
Not sure we field 25 yet.
Honestly big raiding just isnt on our priorities
Just being cool casual bros is #1
El Camacho
08-27-2015, 08:39 AM
Outsider's perspective (not interested in raiding, on either server, myself): from what I've been reading the last month or so, after screening out the bullshit (aka 99% of the content), I get the impression the foundation of the complaint is, essentially, a body monopoly. Empire is so large on such a small server that they control most of the eligible raiding bodies on the server, which makes it difficult to form raiding parties outside of Empire using the rather limited remaining 50-60 population.
Whether or not that's accurate, I can't really say. That's just how it's seemed to me from what I've seen posted.
Empire might be to large and organized to contest with now, but there are more than enough to make a comparably sized force on the rest of the server.
problem is there is a large number of players that can't get along beyond 20 or so people and end up pushing away new players, alliances, breaking up mergers, etc.
IMHO empires advantage has been the ability to manage a large group of players and keep out those that would cause problems for what they are trying to do.
Runya
08-27-2015, 08:39 AM
I guess I just don't get the complaint of people not in Empire. If you don't want to "zerg", aka field the numbers needed for most of the content, then why do you care that Empire does? There's plenty of Empire to kill during the day outside of raids. What is it you guys want exactly?
At this point every single player on the server would have to band together.If 60 people came to contest 100 of you guys would log on....Turds like you disappeared until there was something YOU could gain.Idk are you helpful to the guild? You seem like a nihilum zerg turned emp zerg loot whore(from outside looking in).When you played heartbrand in classic you were a different player than you are now.
Runya
08-27-2015, 08:42 AM
They want daddy 'gean to sanction and dismantle the only raiding guild capable of killing any mobs.
Wheres the proof <Empire> stifles competition?
140 VS 90 in Karnors Castle.....You quit contesting after you lost 1 fight. :o
#FACTS
That was the entire server banding vs one force with skewed numbers....you cant expect that many people to get along for the sake of fighting a pve machine on a pvp server.The only group that can get along that long is a pixel machine......half of you guys dislike eachother but pixels/blue content keeps you guys together.I think your playing the server wrong based on the population.
Ranndom
08-27-2015, 08:48 AM
That was the entire server banding vs one force with skewed numbers....you cant expect that many people to get along for the sake of fighting a pve machine on a pvp server.The only group that can get along that long is a pixel machine......half of you guys dislike eachother but pixels/blue content keeps you guys together.I think your playing the server wrong based on the population.
So you're saying theyre living in a fantasy world, in a fantasy world?
I'd agree with that haha
Runya
08-27-2015, 08:49 AM
Tmo and scum both field about 20-25 each. Id like to see them merge. I offered to tank Vindi for TMO.
Merge up, Empire for the most part leaves TMO and Scum alone. Plenty of targets Empire doesnt go after that would be upgrades for a TMO/Scum. Wtov dragons, Kunark, Velk, Vindi.
Don't those Wtov mobs have 200k hps? I've seen 32khp encounters that would make you guys CRINGE.Lash can Casual Scum borrow you?
Runya
08-27-2015, 08:53 AM
So you're saying theyre living in a fantasy world, in a fantasy world?
I'd agree with that haha
Perhaps.....I just don't think there's enough "free agents" out there to field 50-60 players in rags to contest a 100 man guild.
Lasher
08-27-2015, 09:10 AM
Don't those Wtov mobs have 200k hps? I've seen 32khp encounters that would make you guys CRINGE.Lash can Casual Scum borrow you?
Yes if free I will tank mobs for you or help dps
Terpuntine
08-27-2015, 09:12 AM
Yes if free I will tank mobs for you or help dps
And i'll heal.
Smedy
08-27-2015, 09:16 AM
Another Empire circle jerk thread.
Awesome!
so many members every thread becomes a mindless circle jerk
Coffee
08-27-2015, 09:30 AM
you have my sword!
-empire member
Nirgon
08-27-2015, 09:33 AM
Everything in old world and kunark is untouched. We happily farmed it for months. Most of our guild urges the leaders to clear it on one of the two off nights (and we could NP). Luckily, bleeding heart officers say no that would kill any chance of another guild getting their progression wheels turning. If that's not enough for you, deemed trivial or otherwise not enough, feel free to take Zlandicar or Dain.
krazyGlue
08-27-2015, 10:01 AM
Everything in old world and kunark is untouched. We happily farmed it for months. Most of our guild urges the leaders to clear it on one of the two off nights (and we could NP). Luckily, bleeding heart officers say no that would kill any chance of another guild getting their progression wheels turning. If that's not enough for you, deemed trivial or otherwise not enough, feel free to take Zlandicar or Dain.
I wonder if dn being fucked right now with massive lag has anything to do with you leaving him up . I doubt you would leave a st key sitting there
Coffee
08-27-2015, 10:07 AM
please try not to think and hurt yourself
Nirgon
08-27-2015, 10:13 AM
I wonder if dn being fucked right now with massive lag has anything to do with you leaving him up . I doubt you would leave a st key sitting there
These are the hours now you guys would go for PD
Try him out and see what 30 people do to him and vice versa
Hoping to keep this open and civil
krazyGlue
08-27-2015, 10:19 AM
These are the hours now you guys would go for PD
Try him out and see what 30 people do to him and vice versa
Hoping to keep this open and civil
.. I'm not in friends and, I'm trying to keep the 3-4 guild dream alive .
Terpuntine
08-27-2015, 10:21 AM
Anything less than Empire killing the mob and letting them have the loot for nothing equates to us griefing them.
krazyGlue
08-27-2015, 10:25 AM
Anything less than Empire killing the mob and letting them have the loot for nothing equates to us griefing them.
Last time tmo went for vindi with 34 Empire quickly figured it out by our numbers in Kael and showed up with 83 .
Terpuntine
08-27-2015, 10:28 AM
I appologise next time I will direct our raid force to assist you in killing the mob.
Nirgon
08-27-2015, 10:29 AM
Terp has accepted Quellious as his deity
krazyGlue
08-27-2015, 10:30 AM
I appologise next time I will direct our raid force to assist you in killing the mob.
Not looking for handouts . But when you show up with 3x the numbers just to grief. A guild with lowbies and players in rags .but yet claim you want competition makes me laugh
Terpuntine
08-27-2015, 10:32 AM
Yaw sometimes I forget that players like Sickpuppy equate pvp to grief and suffer severe depression as a result. By simply holding their hand and assisting them while they walk across the street we may be able to prevent some suicides.
Terpuntine
08-27-2015, 10:33 AM
Not looking for handouts . But when you show up with 3x the numbers just to grief. A guild with lowbies and players in rags .but yet claim you want competition makes me laugh
We were done raiding and went to pvp you guys in kael and you call it grief. If we came with even numbers you would cry grief as well after you got stomped.
grannock
08-27-2015, 10:36 AM
If these people don't like zergs, why would you expect them to create one?
They did create one, and couldnt work together and broke up in a month. They were perfectly happy zerging, until they got owned in pvp and couldnt manage their horde. Now they are back to complaining about zerg tactics. Bottom line, men would contest, betas make excuses and beg gms to handle their buisness.
krazyGlue
08-27-2015, 10:37 AM
I'm not trying to flex my muscles here , obviously tmo has a long way to go before hey can actually win some type of pvp fight . But if you showed up with just about even numbers . We would fight . But pushing us out of the zone with just a little less then triple our numbers . Is ridiculous
grannock
08-27-2015, 10:40 AM
Outsider's perspective (not interested in raiding, on either server, myself): from what I've been reading the last month or so, after screening out the bullshit (aka 99% of the content), I get the impression the foundation of the complaint is, essentially, a body monopoly. Empire is so large on such a small server that they control most of the eligible raiding bodies on the server, which makes it difficult to form raiding parties outside of Empire using the rather limited remaining 50-60 population.
Whether or not that's accurate, I can't really say. That's just how it's seemed to me from what I've seen posted.
All the serious raiders want to be a guild with leadership who gets the job done and distributes loot fairly without drama? holy shit. Maybe if someone made another guild and didnt implode it from the leadership position, they could spend a few months to grow and gear up and actually contest.
Coffee
08-27-2015, 10:41 AM
wahhh our guilds are too small to kill mobs because we are unappealing as a group of people but we dont want anyone else to kill mobs either
wahhh
grannock
08-27-2015, 10:42 AM
I'm not trying to flex my muscles here , obviously tmo has a long way to go before hey can actually win some type of pvp fight . But if you showed up with just about even numbers . We would fight . But pushing us out of the zone with just a little less then triple our numbers . Is ridiculous
Gongshow, "guys there is pvp in kael, but we need to only bring 8 people or else Krazy is gonna complain on the boards. Sorry Grannock, next week you can come with us to pvp, we will tell someone else to log out."
Your fucking stupid.
Heebo
08-27-2015, 10:45 AM
I'm not trying to flex my muscles here , obviously tmo has a long way to go before hey can actually win some type of pvp fight . But if you showed up with just about even numbers . We would fight . But pushing us out of the zone with just a little less then triple our numbers . Is ridiculous
Eh, last time we brought 29 to your 34 in Kael. Every single one of you plugged.
krazyGlue
08-27-2015, 10:45 AM
Eh, last time we brought 29 to your 34 in Kael. Every single one of you plugged.
Not once have I ever witnessed empire role around with only 29
Vanquisher
08-27-2015, 10:46 AM
Not once have I ever witnessed empire role around with only 29
Coffee
08-27-2015, 10:48 AM
4 hours a day empire numbers are > 30
Heebo
08-27-2015, 10:48 AM
Not once have I ever witnessed empire role around with only 29
Can't /who when you're plugged out...
grannock
08-27-2015, 10:51 AM
You guys act like 29 empire wouldnt kill your entire 50 man roster.
Terpuntine
08-27-2015, 10:54 AM
Im more than willing to sit down with TMO leadership to listen to a proposal on how we can make this game fun for you.
Vanquisher
08-27-2015, 11:00 AM
Im more than willing to sit down with TMO leadership to listen to a proposal on how we can make this game fun for you.
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heartbrand
08-27-2015, 11:01 AM
Let me open by giving thanks to Mother Quellious for giving me the clairvoyance and foresight to be able to help guide the lost and confused, as well as to The Empire Family and all of its great members.
Many people have been using the word contest. Why is the focus on contesting? There are tons of uncontested mobs up that could be slain win a crew of 35-45 members. Empire has been raiding from 7-12 lately, even later. That's plenty of time to take shots at targets unmolested. No one is calling of Vyemm attempts to go chase you in Kael at Vindi, or at Zlandicar, or a number of other targets. Why not focus on yourselves and gearing up? HoT raids, or WToV raids for gear. I just don't understand what there is to be negative about. There's so much content with good loot left up that you could take uncontested shots at.
May Quellious be with you.
Malevz
08-27-2015, 11:07 AM
Im more than willing to sit down with TMO leadership to listen to a proposal on how we can make this game fun for you.
I think if we were to lend them Gasoline, it would make the game more fun for them. Try it out, just for a year or two.
krazyGlue
08-27-2015, 11:12 AM
I think if we were to lend them Gasoline, it would make the game more fun for them. Try it out, just for a year or two.
We already have lamort
Vanquisher
08-27-2015, 11:14 AM
Let me open by giving thanks to Mother Quellious for giving me the clairvoyance and foresight to be able to help guide the lost and confused, as well as to The Empire Family and all of its great members.
Many people have been using the word contest. Why is the focus on contesting? There are tons of uncontested mobs up that could be slain win a crew of 35-45 members. Empire has been raiding from 7-12 lately, even later. That's plenty of time to take shots at targets unmolested. No one is calling of Vyemm attempts to go chase you in Kael at Vindi, or at Zlandicar, or a number of other targets. Why not focus on yourselves and gearing up? HoT raids, or WToV raids for gear. I just don't understand what there is to be negative about. There's so much content with good loot left up that you could take uncontested shots at.
May Quellious be with you.
how come 3 vindi attempts and everytime empire has come as were about to engage then
Eslade
08-27-2015, 11:15 AM
maybe you tried at the wrong times?
Malevz
08-27-2015, 11:25 AM
how come 3 vindi attempts and everytime empire has come as were about to engage then
I'm going to go ahead and say that was:
-During prime-time
-While Empire wasn't raiding
-When you were inviting every enemy Empire has had into TMO.
Plus I mean..
http://www.project1999.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=6601&stc=1&d=1440688979
If the positions were reversed and a bunch of us moved to a server you were #1 on, started inviting your enemies and made a promise to crush us... you would show up at our raids with appetizers and hand-jobs?
Vanquisher
08-27-2015, 11:26 AM
you guys were in tov all 3 times and came
Vanquisher
08-27-2015, 11:27 AM
and no not expecting handjobs and appetizers but what u expect us to do when 80 of u zone in ... fight? hah
Terpuntine
08-27-2015, 11:29 AM
We have never and will never stop progression in ToV to come stop you from wiping to Vindi. If we came it was because we were already finished raiding for the night.
Malevz
08-27-2015, 11:30 AM
and no not expecting handjobs and appetizers but what u expect us to do when 80 of u zone in ... fight? hah
But if we did bring appetizers is there some kind you'd prefer? I'm partial to the seafood ones myself.
Vanquisher
08-27-2015, 11:30 AM
call it bad timing or luck then, shrug...
derpcake
08-27-2015, 11:30 AM
Wow @ the empire circle jerk.
R99 is a pyramid scheme, the only way to defeat an established guild is for another guild leader to out neckbeard them.
Lite and jibekn aren't the only leaders that have risen, everyone forget about tmo already?
Empire does not want competition, stop pretending like you do.
hey pal
empire is pretty good for me
u knew me when i was a shitty newb, be happy i get nice things :p
Coffee
08-27-2015, 11:30 AM
We have never and will never stop progression in ToV to come stop you from wiping to Vindi. If we came it was because we were already finished raiding for the night.
Nirgon
08-27-2015, 11:32 AM
Go try Zlandi on Friday night. It won't lag.
HippoNipple
08-27-2015, 11:49 AM
Why were people logging in at 3 am to raid kunark a few months ago but the number one raiding guild from blue can't figure out how to raid outside of prime time during Velious?
Friends tried at least, unfortunately for them Colgate can 1v14 their raid force.
Vanquisher
08-27-2015, 11:55 AM
we killed velk and are currently farming pog, we are doing things, its slow progression compared to your 100 hp items per kill in tov
Malevz
08-27-2015, 11:57 AM
call it bad timing or luck then, shrug...
The key on a pvp server is to keep it friendly. No one went to kick 21 Casual Scum and friends out of kael farming. The only difference is:
1. Casual Scum didn't invite Empire enemies, RMTers like Sektor and Krazy
2. No screenshots with promises to crush empire in the first few months
No one is trying to 'crush the competition', just the enemies they've had for years, and those people who loudly declare, we are your enemy. It's all really pretty simple.
Vanquisher
08-27-2015, 12:11 PM
i agree to disagree, i dont hate empire by any means but everyone in the guild has their own opinion and decisions
i think the you invited our enemies thing is bullshit though
both guilds have scum, both guilds have faggots that people hate
when you keep wiping to a superior guild that is empire, the alliance guild morale goes down u lose members... but keep on pushing and thats what tmo is doing, i really think though empire could not be so toxic and let us get a few kills under our belt, gain members and give us a honest competition server rather than a onesided blue server.
Nirgon
08-27-2015, 12:13 PM
Windstriker, AoN, sow sword, PD and cure shield farm is wide open
Everything a roaming gank squad needs tbh
Gardur
08-27-2015, 12:14 PM
I try to keep our goals realistic. Realistically we can field 15 to 20 on a good night. That means we have the numbers to contest Friends for Kunark or to contribute to Velious cooperative raids. With good composition we could probly do lord bob alone.
Our faction choices leave some targets unavailable for now that would help with early progression but will pay off in the long run. We appreciate the offers for help but prefer to progress without the aid of Empire.
There are plenty of players to build something competitive in the (perhaps very) long run but mergers and mass recruiting of trash cans are ineffective and undesirable, respectively. If the server could learn one thing from Empire it's that growing organically is the path to victory.
CS has enjoyed group level pvp with all factions of the server and cooperating with two of the 4 non CS guilds.
See you bros in Thurgadin.
Terpuntine
08-27-2015, 12:16 PM
I literally sat at the entrance to velks personally and kept all empire out of there so you could raid completely safe.
Vanquisher
08-27-2015, 12:18 PM
I literally sat at the entrance to velks personally and kept all empire out of there so you could raid completely safe.
I was impressed, we actually enjoyed that raid and thank you guys for that.
IF only that would happen more often, but this is a pvp server no doubt.
snufzaimoverlord
08-27-2015, 12:26 PM
Terp is due to littlefinger someone, I got the Fuck outta velks.
Don't need that heat.
Malevz
08-27-2015, 12:32 PM
Terp is due to littlefinger someone, I got the Fuck outta velks.
Don't need that heat.
I was also told "stay the fuck out of velks". Terp's tone of voice chilled my soul.
Crushfield
08-27-2015, 12:37 PM
everyone not in empire is an empire alt spying on the other alts in guilds that are not empire
Gnomegrown2
08-27-2015, 12:52 PM
Any reasonable sized raid resistance gets up will just be griefed, hence why they dont even try anymore
i honestly dont blame them, let empire burn out for a month and then start killing stuff.
Chronoburn
08-27-2015, 01:00 PM
I literally sat at the entrance to velks personally and kept all empire out of there so you could raid completely safe.
Really should turn pvp off on this server.
AzzarTheGod
08-27-2015, 02:52 PM
Throwing a few bones to an ailing guild
Pras Terpentine of Quellious
jestingoff02
08-27-2015, 03:36 PM
Windstriker, AoN, sow sword, PD and cure shield farm is wide open
Everything a roaming gank squad needs tbh
^^^^ my guild slacks on vp keys, where is el present???
Super Hater
08-27-2015, 03:42 PM
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Gnomegrown2
08-27-2015, 04:09 PM
I try to keep our goals realistic. Realistically we can field 15 to 20 on a good night. That means we have the numbers to contest Friends for Kunark or to contribute to Velious cooperative raids. With good composition we could probly do lord bob alone.
Our faction choices leave some targets unavailable for now that would help with early progression but will pay off in the long run. We appreciate the offers for help but prefer to progress without the aid of Empire.
There are plenty of players to build something competitive in the (perhaps very) long run but mergers and mass recruiting of trash cans are ineffective and undesirable, respectively. If the server could learn one thing from Empire it's that growing organically is the path to victory.
CS has enjoyed group level pvp with all factions of the server and cooperating with two of the 4 non CS guilds.
See you bros in Thurgadin.
You are why i joined fresh, i had hoped the guild would continue to grow slowly with the right mindset and selective recruitment. I didnt expect the contesting to be rushed but i understand the resistance had enough of it and were ready to jam.
When GG was being formed i was hoping you would have a major leadership role and NOT lite or jibekn or any of the other inbreds, because we all know the end result of this.
I wish you the best of luck rebuilding a smaller long term style guild but sadly i wont be a part of it because red99 just is not the slightest bit fun at all, i tried playing several times and had 0 fun.
:)
For many people it's about not playing with people like Heartbrand, Rettiwalk, Colgate, etc. (and people that would play with them for pixels) and not some hope of contesting.
Shjade
08-27-2015, 10:50 PM
Empire might be to large and organized to contest with now, but there are more than enough to make a comparably sized force on the rest of the server.
problem is there is a large number of players that can't get along beyond 20 or so people and end up pushing away new players, alliances, breaking up mergers, etc.
IMHO empires advantage has been the ability to manage a large group of players and keep out those that would cause problems for what they are trying to do.
From what I've seen of Empire's behavior/posts thus far, I'd say Empire's "advantage" is that they don't manage their large group of players; the leadership doesn't appear to care about what their members are doing much of the time.
When you don't give a shit about who they are or what they do the rest of the time, it's pretty easy to throw a bunch of bodies together. Avoids that whole "can't get along" problem by smothering it with indifference and/or ignorance (in the sense of ignoring what they're doing unless it suits you to pay attention to it).
Lasher
08-27-2015, 11:13 PM
From what I've seen of Empire's behavior/posts thus far, I'd say Empire's "advantage" is that they don't manage their large group of players; the leadership doesn't appear to care about what their members are doing much of the time.
When you don't give a shit about who they are or what they do the rest of the time, it's pretty easy to throw a bunch of bodies together. Avoids that whole "can't get along" problem by smothering it with indifference and/or ignorance (in the sense of ignoring what they're doing unless it suits you to pay attention to it).
We spend 90% of the time in zones with no other guild. Whats there to manage? Most of empire leaves Tmo and scum along and those that dont are just pvping on a pvp server when we happen to come across you guys. We hardly even visit kunark.
If you are trying to farm exp in a zone that empire travles through frequently dont get mad that pvp comes
Xaanka
08-28-2015, 12:52 AM
Like don't get me wrong it's cool if empire wants to turn a new leaf but you're not fooling any <TMO> players with the "we leave all your raids alone, except that time and that other time and /mentions every raid we have done/" like, do you really think words on the forums are going to change my mind when I was at most of these raids?
I get the reasons why many things were done after a bunch of people you guys don't like applied (note: these people are usually not TMO members, and TMO seems to have a policy of ignoring red99 rumorquest about players and letting the toxics out themselves) but that's not the guild we have today. TBQH I didn't like being guilded with a lot of the same players you guys griefed us over either. We're just a bunch of chill bros trying to experience new content, sorry if you guys don't like a few people we have in the guild right now.
heartbrand
08-28-2015, 01:04 AM
For many people it's about not playing with people like Heartbrand, Rettiwalk, Colgate, etc. (and people that would play with them for pixels) and not some hope of contesting.
Feels good knowing I lead only guild to ever win a three way fight for a mob on the server. Feels even better knowing I have Vulak loot. Quellious has truly blessed me.
Agatha
08-28-2015, 01:46 AM
i think the only way to start a guild that contests is to buy out the competitions characters and AON's, i don't think anyone is willing to spend that kinda cash right now.
Agatha
08-28-2015, 02:53 AM
i mean plat
Coffee
08-28-2015, 08:54 AM
yea,,,,,, cringe
Malevz
08-28-2015, 10:14 AM
We hardly even visit kunark.
Pretty sure that was closed.
Buhbuh
08-28-2015, 11:12 AM
The key to a successful competitive guild is building up like a normal guild, if that is even your goal. And right now, it shouldn't be. Give it 6 months, then reevaluate.
The bottom line right now is: if you guild with, assist, or blatantly help <Friends> in any way so that they progress further beyond their little shit hole groups in Icewell, you're getting the lights shut off for good. Quite frankly, we're the landlords when it comes to this. Sorry we're not sorry. Stay away from <Friends>.
Otherwise, do as you please. If you decide to raid Vindicator, try to do it in the window of 4PM - 8PM PST except on Fridays and Saturdays (our off days).
If you have a problem with one of our guildies, send a tell to an officer.
Empire basically hasn't left Velious since it dropped, so if you plan on exping, try out Kunark. It's still infinitely better exp on that continent than it is here. If you choose Velious, expect the heat. If we're raiding ToV, we'll probably never stop to impede your progress (although I can't say that for certain if you go after ST keys). Your sights shouldn't really be set on primal, though, especially in the condition you guys are in. I mean, Krazy is leading TMO raids. That's bad enough. No offense.
Xaanka
08-28-2015, 02:06 PM
The key to a successful competitive guild is building up like a normal guild, if that is even your goal. And right now, it shouldn't be. Give it 6 months, then reevaluate.
The bottom line right now is: if you guild with, assist, or blatantly help <Friends> in any way so that they progress further beyond their little shit hole groups in Icewell, you're getting the lights shut off for good. Quite frankly, we're the landlords when it comes to this. Sorry we're not sorry. Stay away from <Friends>.
Otherwise, do as you please. If you decide to raid Vindicator, try to do it in the window of 4PM - 8PM PST except on Fridays and Saturdays (our off days).
If you have a problem with one of our guildies, send a tell to an officer.
Empire basically hasn't left Velious since it dropped, so if you plan on exping, try out Kunark. It's still infinitely better exp on that continent than it is here. If you choose Velious, expect the heat. If we're raiding ToV, we'll probably never stop to impede your progress (although I can't say that for certain if you go after ST keys). Your sights shouldn't really be set on primal, though, especially in the condition you guys are in. I mean, Krazy is leading TMO raids. That's bad enough. No offense.
Yeah we're all on the same page about <Friends>, but I don't think Krazy's been leading any <TMO> raids it's pretty much been Darkdeath running the show lately. PS if you guys don't like friends, camping fungi is a sure fire way to make them have meltdowns because its just about the only thing they can do right now.
krazyGlue
08-28-2015, 02:34 PM
im not leading any raids .
Super Hater
08-28-2015, 02:52 PM
The key to a successful competitive guild is building up like a normal guild, if that is even your goal. And right now, it shouldn't be. Give it 6 months, then reevaluate.
The bottom line right now is: if you guild with, assist, or blatantly help <Friends> in any way so that they progress further beyond their little shit hole groups in Icewell, you're getting the lights shut off for good. Quite frankly, we're the landlords when it comes to this. Sorry we're not sorry. Stay away from <Friends>.
Otherwise, do as you please. If you decide to raid Vindicator, try to do it in the window of 4PM - 8PM PST except on Fridays and Saturdays (our off days).
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Xaanka
08-28-2015, 02:56 PM
im not leading any raids .
Krazy doesn't even really talk in teamspeak. He's usually busy pulling things.
Xaanka
08-28-2015, 02:58 PM
like ok i've missed a couple raids here and there but i don't even know what Krazy's voice sounds like
Pikrib
08-28-2015, 04:17 PM
The key to a successful competitive guild is building up like a normal guild, if that is even your goal. And right now, it shouldn't be. Give it 6 months, then reevaluate.
The bottom line right now is: if you guild with, assist, or blatantly help <Friends> in any way so that they progress further beyond their little shit hole groups in Icewell, you're getting the lights shut off for good. Quite frankly, we're the landlords when it comes to this. Sorry we're not sorry. Stay away from <Friends>.
Otherwise, do as you please. If you decide to raid Vindicator, try to do it in the window of 4PM - 8PM PST except on Fridays and Saturdays (our off days).
If you have a problem with one of our guildies, send a tell to an officer.
Empire basically hasn't left Velious since it dropped, so if you plan on exping, try out Kunark. It's still infinitely better exp on that continent than it is here. If you choose Velious, expect the heat. If we're raiding ToV, we'll probably never stop to impede your progress (although I can't say that for certain if you go after ST keys). Your sights shouldn't really be set on primal, though, especially in the condition you guys are in. I mean, Krazy is leading TMO raids. That's bad enough. No offense.
Ok just one question though.
Did Rabid pay you guys in visa gift cards or by letting you sleep in his grandmothers basement for free?
Ragnaros
08-28-2015, 04:21 PM
The key to a successful competitive guild is building up like a normal guild, if that is even your goal. And right now, it shouldn't be. Give it 6 months, then reevaluate.
The bottom line right now is: if you guild with, assist, or blatantly help <Friends> in any way so that they progress further beyond their little shit hole groups in Icewell, you're getting the lights shut off for good. Quite frankly, we`re the landlordswhen it comes to this. Sorry we're not sorry. Stay away from <Friends>.
Otherwise, do as you please. If you decide to raid Vindicator, try to do it in the window of 4PM - 8PM PST except on Fridays and Saturdays (our off days).
If you have a problem with one of our guildies, send a tell to an officer.
Empire basically hasn't left Velious since it dropped, so if you plan on exping, try out Kunark. It's still infinitely better exp on that continent than it is here. If you choose Velious, expect the heat. If we're raiding ToV, we'll probably never stop to impede your progress (although I can't say that for certain if you go after ST keys). Your sights shouldn't really be set on primal, though, especially in the condition you guys are in. I mean, Krazy is leading TMO raids. That's bad enough. No offense.
Yea you are landlords, collecting rent möney from rabid
Buhbuh
08-28-2015, 04:36 PM
you guys should do standup
quips are off the chain
SamwiseRed
08-28-2015, 05:42 PM
The key to running a successful guild on Red99 is to have nothing else in your life to look forward too. Only then can you truly dedicate your time and energy into downing 15 year content that is less complex than minesweeper.
It has been scientifically proven there is a inverse correlation between being a successful or happy in RL and being successful in-game. Hence why the server is run by druggies and/or losers. Of course there are a few outliers but hey, there always is.
The key to running a successful guild on Red99 is to have nothing else in your life to look forward too.
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