Adding to the Kunark hype... [Archive]

ukaking

11-10-2010, 12:00 PM

Started work on the all Iksar guild site yesterday. The information about the guild and details are on the site. Pretty much just a fun casual experience with moderate RP, being we are all Iksar. Done it before and it worked out really nicely, even with people who were brand new to the game back in 2000. The guild lasted three years and was still the best guild experience most of the members have had to this day.
With the release of Kunark in the near future, we have begun to get our ducks in a row to make a run at it again...
Harbingers of Thule, the second coming.

harbingersofthule.guildlaunch.com (http://harbingersofthule.guildlaunch.com)

Check it out, if you have interest, let us know!

guineapig

11-10-2010, 12:26 PM

I honestly like this idea but I can't imagine a guild with zero clerics and zero porting abilities.

Basically the guild will always be dependent on donating or begging in /ooc for rezes, ports, etc. Even as just a casual thing, you might want to at least consider enslaving one race.

Halflings or gnomes for example. They are small, tasty and have abilities like complete heal, resurection and porting!

Madigan

11-10-2010, 01:08 PM

Or a tactical alliance with the dark elves that will bring in that missing functionality.

T7g

11-10-2010, 01:13 PM

You should've named it Iksars and Friends

Ozz

11-10-2010, 01:28 PM

I am interested...sounds fun. My main will switch to Iksar Necro when Kunark gets here.

Madigan

11-10-2010, 01:53 PM

Yeah actually I would love to make and RP an Iksar Necro. I had a L65 DE necro on live so it should be easy and fun!

Deathrydar

11-10-2010, 01:56 PM

You should've named it Iksars and Friends

But Iksars don't have any friends....

ukaking

11-10-2010, 02:17 PM

We actually do use "softskins" as slaves. Typically alts of our membership or friends who wish to aid the cause. They just do not deserve to wear the guildtag. =)

fuji

11-10-2010, 02:20 PM

Is it possible to have an entire raid guild with only iksar races?

Lyrik

11-10-2010, 02:22 PM

Is it possible to have an entire raid guild with only iksar races?

How much do you like Shaman heals?

guineapig

11-10-2010, 03:43 PM

Is it possible to have an entire raid guild with only iksar races?

I think we covered why this wouldn't work already. No complete heals, No Planes, no epics... and have fun waiting for people to arrive to any raid event.

guineapig

11-10-2010, 03:45 PM

We actually do use "softskins" as slaves. Typically alts of our membership or friends who wish to aid the cause. They just do not deserve to wear the guildtag. =)

Creating a companion guild to cover those needs would make sense and add to the roleplay factor. However there won't be much draw for people to be roleplaying the slave guild.

< Servants of Thule >

or something like that.

Maurk

11-10-2010, 03:48 PM

Name the guild "Coon and Friends"
You can be the Coon.
It will be awesome.

ukaking

11-10-2010, 03:57 PM

We will most likely ally with a mixed guild for these types of end game content. The RP part of it is the Harbingers are basically Thule's chosen militia. When you see one, you know you are looking at a specialist of his chosen classification. =)
The real intent is to offer folks something different for their gaming experience. Maybe its only an alt they put into the guild, but when they log on that alt, they know they will get a more old school feel than they would with most typical guilds. I'm here to have fun, honestly. I've raided. I've seen end game content for years and Im in no hurry to get back there. Im here to enjoy the ride and if the Harbingers can bring that same enjoyment to others, then its well worth it!

guineapig

11-10-2010, 05:24 PM

Good luck to you man. I've always enjoyed playing with RPers in the past. Adds a bit of freshness to the game.

Who knows, I might follow you guys along on some adventures when I role up an Iksar.

Tappin

11-10-2010, 07:23 PM

What are the experience penalties/bonuses?
By Race:
Troll -20%
Iksar -20%
Ogre -15%
Barbarian -5%
Halfling +5%

I plan on playing an Iksar when Kunark rolls around, but I probably wouldn't want to group with any Iksars, haha.

FireEmblem86

11-10-2010, 07:43 PM

I am SO joining this on all the Iksar I'll be making. And I plan on making one of every type (except perhaps for Shadowknight, but that's a perhaps).

But here's a question: Why would it ONLY be Iksar? What I mean is this: Why not make it available to those people that have good faction with the entirety of Cabilis? Or have a seperate guild, Allies of Thule, with the requirement that they have good faction in Cabilis and not be Iksar (the Iksar, of course, being the Harbingers)? That way, Clerics, Wizards, and even Druids could be a part of the action without necessarily being slaves.

Murdatime

11-10-2010, 07:56 PM

I'm down ill roll a shaman.

starspun

11-10-2010, 08:54 PM

Oh, this is awesome. I'm in. :O

Jhaaz

11-10-2010, 10:04 PM

I think we covered why this wouldn't work already. No complete heals, No Planes, no epics... and have fun waiting for people to arrive to any raid event.

No rezes on wipes, no cleric clicky sticks to speed up wipe recovery. No enchanters/bards for crowd control in places like planes, chardock, seb etc etc. Since you cant rez that means on wipes or if people die everyone has to "run" back naked..... since you dont have ports either. Warrior, SK, shaman and necro? .... no real DPS classes except maybe necro, but some need nukage or will take to long to kill chit and with only shaman heals you cant afford to take along time to kill something. I think only DEs, Humans, HighElves, Erudites and gnomes can have an all race raiding guild without outside help.

Just say no! ;P

ukaking

11-10-2010, 10:06 PM

LOL We refer to the softskins as "slaves" not meaning the softskins that aid us have to see themselves as such. Basically I think we will have the alliances with enough friends and guildmates we currently have with our characters now to have what we need to play the "end game" when them time comes. But for now, lets sit back as a group of united Iksar and take down the mobs in the pit of the Field of Bone on our way to the Seige of Kurns Tower!

ukaking

11-10-2010, 10:08 PM

No rezes on wipes, no cleric clicky sticks to speed up wipe recovery. No enchanters/bards for crowd control in places like planes, chardock, seb etc etc. Since you cant rez that means on wipes or if people die everyone has to "run" back naked..... since you dont have ports either. Warrior, SK, shaman and necro? .... no real DPS classes except maybe necro, but some need nukage or will take to long to kill chit and with only shaman heals you cant afford to take along time to kill something.

Just say no! ;P

Again you miss the point. The end game is NOT the focus! Its time to have fun! From the dreaded fate of the Lake of Ill Omen to the Undead of Kurn's Tower we ride!

Jon

11-12-2010, 06:45 AM

Sounds awesome. Ukaking, you have my support.

mimixownzall

11-12-2010, 08:44 AM

i vote for < Thule's Bitches >

karsten

11-12-2010, 09:03 AM

Sounds awesome. Ukaking, you have my support.

AND YOU HAVE MY B0W

azeth

11-12-2010, 09:51 AM

AND YOU HAVE MY B0W

and moi axe

karsten

11-12-2010, 10:01 AM

and moi axe

what faggotry is this?

Teseer

11-12-2010, 10:06 AM

I'm down, gunna be making a shammy when Kunark releases :D

Deathrydar

11-12-2010, 10:21 AM

what faggotry is this?

BLASPHEMY! Who dares to describe the holy trilogy as "faggotry"?

Knightmare

11-12-2010, 10:38 AM

We'll have enchanters, with Illusion Iksar on. It RP'd pretty well last time and made it humorous. Any other option for having an Iksar illusion on would also be a candidate.. if you know your Iksar anatomy :)

To be honest I enjoyed RPing my druid alt as an honorary 'Slave to Thule' years ago.. you can carry that sort of thing pretty far, and it does serve the guild.

The RP element is to have fun, that is the point of the game. It's not be taken to a ridiculous extreme that would lead to the downfall of the guild at end-game. On personal terms we'd raid with others, in fact, we'd have to, but we'd RP it as "using" others to further our goals of global enslavement :eek:

~Darkwolfe~

BlackBellamy

11-12-2010, 11:58 AM

No rezes on wipes, no cleric clicky sticks to speed up wipe recovery. No enchanters/bards for crowd control in places like planes, chardock, seb etc etc. Since you cant rez that means on wipes or if people die everyone has to "run" back naked..... since you dont have ports either. Warrior, SK, shaman and necro? .... no real DPS classes except maybe necro, but some need nukage or will take to long to kill chit and with only shaman heals you cant afford to take along time to kill something. I think only DEs, Humans, HighElves, Erudites and gnomes can have an all race raiding guild without outside help.

Just say no! ;P

Puhleez *****, stop over-analyzing shit. I ran with an Iksar-only guild for years. We did just fine.

karsten

11-12-2010, 12:33 PM

BLASPHEMY! Who dares to describe the holy trilogy as "faggotry"?

because he used french when quoting gimli, and that is faggotry

Knightmare

11-12-2010, 01:40 PM

because he used french when quoting gimli, and that is faggotry

He was trying to mimic Gimli's accent, not speak French :rolleyes:

Deathrydar

11-12-2010, 01:43 PM

Puhleez *****, stop over-analyzing shit. I ran with an Iksar-only guild for years. We did just fine.

And did all of the Iksars in your all-Iksar guild speak street slang?

Lill-Leif

11-12-2010, 02:29 PM

I can just imagine the guild chat being filled with alot of zzzz's from those roleplaying-freaks...

Dest

11-12-2010, 02:37 PM

This isn't one of those RP guilds where we will sit down to med and someone is going to try and finger me is it?

ukaking

11-12-2010, 02:41 PM

This isn't one of those RP guilds where we will sit down to med and someone is going to try and finger me is it?

God I hope not! Im praying I can screen the applicants well enough to avoid the idiots for the most part.

FireEmblem86

11-12-2010, 03:47 PM

I do not recall the Iksar wanting to enslave all of Norrath, just conquer all of Kunark (although, to be fair, that's actually more of an issue of survival, since EVERYTHING in Kunark has wanted to kill them/enslave them before they started conquering it).

BTW, you don't need to add a bunch of ssssss to every s to roleplay an Iksar. Especially an Iksar that is well-spoken.

Hasbinbad

11-12-2010, 04:05 PM

purist

11-12-2010, 04:23 PM

Iksar
Former slaves of the Shissar
Norrath's best swimmers by far
In the canals of Cabilis
Express our displeasure with a hiss
Come Kunark, here we are
Until then, au revoir
Iksar

starspun

11-12-2010, 07:00 PM

Iksar
Former slaves of the Shissar
Norrath's best swimmers by far
In the canals of Cabilis
Express our displeasure with a hiss
Come Kunark, here we are
Until then, au revoir
Iksar

I came a little. That might also be because I'm a little bit drunk though.

++ regardless.

nalkin

11-12-2010, 07:04 PM

Well spoken ikssssssarssssss ssssssstill have sssssssnakelike pharyngeal anatomy. Biology isssssss a bitch.

gat dang it, right when I thought for sure abacab was a better writer you go and do this. Now I am split.

Also, it's ikisar*

Sarkhan

11-12-2010, 11:54 PM

I'll be joining for sure. Already sent in my application for Sarkhan to the harbringers site.

Not sure if I will be making Sarkhan first, or if I will be making Decharger first.. Sarkhan is a warrior iksar and Decharger is an iksar necromancer. . . Also might make my old iksar monk again for fun and try for the whistling fists like I had on live if they put that quest in P99.

PS: For any wanting to read up on awesome lore about iksars, check out

http://archiveofik.proboards.com/index.cgi

It was created by Dreyco, a great RPer who was in the same guild I was back on Firiona Vie server. He moved on to EQ2 and the site does have a lot of EQ2 lore so just be careful because some EQ2 lore conflicts with EQ1 lore. Overall though it is a GREAT site that I use whenever my memory gets foggy on any particular part of Iksar lore.

Vangorr_WAR

11-13-2010, 04:36 AM

There can be only one true iksar guild

Champions of Cabilis , made in 2000 on the E'ci Server

Iksar only , raided the planes and did epics With just iksar, some people have a lot to learn about strats. Monks = FD fuck CC in the planes

Shamans can heal as well as clerics when you got 15 or so of them and yes greater heal chain is effective , also less cast time too.
necros Twitching shamans etc

Believe me its possable. Don't let them tell you otherwise.

www.championsofcabilis.com ,

See the history Thanks

ukaking

11-13-2010, 03:31 PM

I used to go to the Champions of Cabilis site back in the day. Although they raided planes, to call them the ONLY true all iksar guild is a stretch considering the Harbingers were doing it on a PVP server. Rallos Zek.

azeth

11-13-2010, 04:22 PM

Sarkhan

11-13-2010, 07:56 PM

Use http://www.archive.org/index.php
the Champions of Cabilis site is in the archives

Knightmare

03-04-2011, 01:34 PM

Just a reminder.

And a bump for Harbingers :)

Oh, how I would love to have Rallos Zek and wide open PvP back though.. *sigh* the RP opportunities were limitless~

JayDee

03-04-2011, 01:52 PM

I honestly like this idea but I can't imagine a guild with zero clerics and zero porting abilities.

We had an all iksar guild on tallon zek at launch of kunark and although they were good players and generally great people, this was our downfall and the guild inevitably fell apart.

Knightmare

03-04-2011, 02:46 PM

We had an all iksar guild on tallon zek at launch of kunark and although they were good players and generally great people, this was our downfall and the guild inevitably fell apart.

The guy dancing, or the guy who passes by at the end of the video.. with his nipples pierced? :eek:

lol

Darkath

03-04-2011, 03:19 PM

This sounds so awesome I can't wait to get off work and check it out :3

I'm in!

Brambletoe

03-04-2011, 03:34 PM

Im In. Necro (maybe shammy), just gotta come up with a name...

Jarnin

03-04-2011, 07:21 PM

You guys might consider allowing Cazic Thule worshipping Erudites to join. That would give you clerics and a whole other city right next to a high level dungeon (when the Hole opens).

Just sayin.

CHusk2

03-04-2011, 07:38 PM

This sounds like an awesome idea. My Iksar warrior will lend his scaly badassery to the cause.

SwordNboard

03-04-2011, 08:30 PM

Gonna have a little OCD tangent:

It's Iksar for plural, not Iksars.

That's like saying Shamans for plural when its still Shaman.

That's like like saying deers, sheeps, fishes, etc.

/rant

:p

Jarnin

03-04-2011, 08:36 PM

Gonna have a little OCD tangent:

It's Iksar for plural, not Iksars.

That's like saying Shamans for plural when its still Shaman.

That's like like saying deers, sheeps, fishes, etc.

/rant

:p
Uh, the plural form of Shaman is, in fact, Shamans (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/shaman).

SwordNboard

03-04-2011, 08:38 PM

Uh, the plural form of Shaman is, in fact, Shamans (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/shaman).

Thank you, I'll take it off my grammar-nazi-dick-moment list then. :p

Suppose it's just the odd animal rule then. DAMN LIZZARDS!

ukaking

03-04-2011, 10:09 PM

Id like to address some concerns that tend to arise from a guild of this nature. Are we limited on the classes we have? Sure. But in turn, we have softskin alts that will be slaves to the cause. (Rezzes, ports, etc.). Not to mention that Kunark is extremely self sufficient in its own right. This is not the first time some of us in this guild have done this (Rallos Zek, 2000-2003). This time around, we have some much needed holes filled with the softskin slaves and know more of what the future will require of us as a whole to get our Iksar geared and capable of handling the big stuff.
Folks, loosen up, do something different and have some fun! Head on over to the website and throw in a guild app!

harbingersofthule.guildlaunch.com

Autotune

03-04-2011, 10:29 PM

who would want to RP as a slave and have an entire raid talk down to them for hours?

yea, that sounds like tons of fun...

Leokaiser

03-04-2011, 10:31 PM

Support. Class balance means little when your aim is general fun and RP rather than 'sockin adventures. One of the most excellent guilds I have been in was an all Iksar guild on Firiona Vie, Skathris Ven'sho (http://cabiliscom.yuku.com/).

These guys were hardcore RPers though, and I'm not sure how well it would work without a stong focus on that element.

Leokaiser

03-04-2011, 10:47 PM

yea, that sounds like tons of fun...

RP is what you (plural) make of it. The objective isn't to be a super-nails-badass-dude, but an interesting character that you enjoy acting as and other players enjoy interacting with. Variety in character archetypes breeds better RP, generally speaking.

ukaking

03-04-2011, 10:47 PM

"That sounds like fun..." -Autotune

The RP wont be so hardcore, just in good fun. The softskin support are alts we already have, so having them as slaves isnt taking away anyone's fun when we know we are aiding the guild.
Jesus do people even read everything before they post? For those with this mindset, have fun racing to 60 so you can sit on your butt and talk about how bored you are waiting for Velious to release.

Aarone

03-04-2011, 11:07 PM

Somehow, this seemed appropriate (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OuaNl1rj5s)! ;)

Good luck leeeeeezards! :D

ukaking

03-06-2011, 10:00 AM

Apps have been coming in nicely! It seems we are on the profibus of the next iksar uprising! Keep those apps comin! Could use some shadow knights!

harbingersofthule.guildlaunch.com