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mwatt
09-10-2015, 04:21 AM
Not just the meaning of life. It's also the number of Elder Holgresh I have killed without Holgresh Elder Beads dropping. I've also killed 2 Grand Viziers during this span of time of been killing Holgresh.

Yeah yeah, random generator, unlucky, yeah blah blah. Maybe. But I know quite a few people with similar stories.

I have no proof and no way of proving it.... but my gut tells me the drop is too rare. On live it typically was about a 6 hour camp. I've probably put in 40 hours or so over the past 10 days.

Devs, please take it under consideration.

Mojo24
09-10-2015, 06:52 AM
"I haven't been able to get an item to drop. The coding must be broken. Please adjust the drop rate so me, the casual can get the item. Despite the fact that there are already hundreds on the server"

mwatt
09-10-2015, 03:41 PM
"I haven't been able to get an item to drop. The coding must be broken. Please adjust the drop rate so me, the casual can get the item. Despite the fact that there are already hundreds on the server"

How do you know that there are "hundreds" on the server, and what does this mean? Is it 100? 900? Also, if there is such an abundance, why is the going price in the 50K range?

As for your use of the term "casual" like it's a swear word, it just shows what your mind set is - I'll just leave it at that. But for the record, I've spent two whole nights in the cave and many portions of other nights outside the save. I have not been "casually" camping for the item by any sane definition.

Swish
09-10-2015, 03:46 PM
http://i.imgur.com/bpfCHGR.gif

Ele
09-10-2015, 03:59 PM
How do you know that there are "hundreds" on the server, and what does this mean? Is it 100? 900? Also, if there is such an abundance, why is the going price in the 50K range?

Regarding the price issue, people that camped them to use them aren't selling them so count those out of the market until the price is high enough to justify selling and camping them again. The people that camped them to sell them are highly incentivized to keep prices up. People will keep auctioning the same item at or above the perceived market value for weeks to cash in on the maximum amount leading other people to want the same price range. Otherwise, if you start a race to the bottom, one gets sold below the normal price and the "losing" seller can go right back to their original price.

There is also the perceived future rareness of the item since it will stop dropping in 6+ months keeps the price higher than it would otherwise be.

As for your use of the term "casual" like it's a swear word, it just shows what your mind set is - I'll just leave it at that. But for the record, I've spent two whole nights in the cave and many portions of other nights outside the save. I have not been "casually" camping for the item by any sane definition.

Terms like casual and poopsockers are thrown around like candy here. Some people imply negative connotations with it, most use it in fun and embrace whatever their preferred label is and run with it.

Your original post said 40 hours over 10 days. To some people that play here that is casual coming out to an average of 3 hours on weeknights and 8 hours on weekend days. To people that can only log in 5 hours a week, that is hardcore.



As to their drop rates, there have been a number of beta/bug reports related to them:

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=202882
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=172958
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=174033
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=158796
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=142219
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144433

Erati
09-10-2015, 04:20 PM
killed 6 the other night in around 2 hours

got beads

RNG sucks for some

indiscriminate_hater
09-10-2015, 04:55 PM
Shit's
Classic
U
Mad?

Zombiehasslehoff
09-10-2015, 05:15 PM
I've seen 3 beads drop with maybe 8 hours total camping. It's all RNG like fungi king, I've seen people go 24hrs and only see one king without a tunic and I've seen 7 tunics drop in 18 hours. Maybe you would have better luck camping something steadier and buying beads if you really need them.

captnamazing
09-10-2015, 05:19 PM
i got my beads in about 30 mins np working as intended

Swish
09-10-2015, 05:24 PM
I got mine when I turned up at the camp, ez pz.

mwatt
09-10-2015, 08:05 PM
Well, it's good to see that some people are getting them quickly. I made my post based upon my own experience and those of people whom I have met in game.

As for the RNG, lets look at this from the other side for a moment. Even if the drop rate were set far lower than it was on Classic, the RNG would still make it so occasionally somebody would get them quickly.

So the reality is, some people are getting them quickly, some are not. The question is what are the relative numbers. So far on the thread, I appear to be outnumbered - perhaps I (and a lot of other people) am just getting unlucky.

I'll close with this. It's kind of a shame when people try to make legitimate comments about the game, that might possibly improve it or make it more classic, and then some people (not all) can't seem to restrain themselves from making insinuations of laziness and impatience. I'm talking about the same kind of "too cool" people that frequented "better than" cliques in High School. Hmmm, maybe they still do. heh. But I wax flamish. Apologies. I'm done with this thread, but not sadly, with my Elder Beads camping.

Swish
09-10-2015, 08:12 PM
RNG is classic.

Compare with the OOT Ancient Cyclops. I've had him spawn after 4 kills (after he'd just spawned as well for the guy before me)...and I've sat there for over 12 hours, with the last guy giving up having put 8+ hours in himself.

Expect the worst and you can always be pleasantly surprised, but not in this case I guess ;)

snots
09-11-2015, 05:19 AM
I've probably put in 40 hours or so over the past 10 days.

Hi m8 I put in 120 hours over the first two weeks of Velious before I got mine. You'll get it eventually.

indiscriminate_hater
09-11-2015, 10:20 AM
Hi m8 I put in 120 hours over the first two weeks of Velious before I got mine. You'll get it eventually.

120 hours divided by (a generous) 60k price tag is 500pp per hour. Dear lord

GinnasP99
09-11-2015, 10:30 AM
120 hours divided by (a generous) 60k price tag is 500pp per hour. Dear lord

You'd make more in sol A, camp beads for use, not to sell

Era'viss
09-11-2015, 11:01 AM
Sorry to be such a nublet casual scum, but wtf is the point of these beads?

GinnasP99
09-11-2015, 11:07 AM
Sorry to be such a nublet casual scum, but wtf is the point of these beads?

Necromancers or SKs can summon the eyeball and lifetap it, you can summon it and hammer off of the eyeball (pretty frustrating to do as the eye only survives like 2 hits) and monks can use the eyeball to pull mobs from very long distances (mobs that would otherwise cast really bad nukes or destroy the monk with melee damage)

Llodd
09-11-2015, 12:04 PM
Overrated, overpriced and subject to some sort of mysterious legend.

Buy or get a gnome friend to make you 2 tinkered stalking probes (50-100 ea), 5 charges eye of zomm , and recharge them for 6pp or less.

Still, I do want one, but I aint paying those muppet prices !

Era'viss
09-11-2015, 12:31 PM
Still, I do want one, but I aint paying those muppet prices !

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3vjsc4o481r4zr2vo4_r1_250.gif

Yukkers
09-11-2015, 04:20 PM
I got mine when I was killing mercenaries and an elder roamed into me. Was going to FD it off but decided to kill it, and they dropped.

Littlestgnome
09-11-2015, 07:26 PM
I got mine when I was killing mercenaries and an elder roamed into me. Was going to FD it off but decided to kill it, and they dropped.

Dear Penthouse,

I never thought this would happen to me...