What drug is your favorite?

[America]

Well?

[purist]

Fried chicken

[Snigel]

FREEDOM

[Ihealyou]

Children's laughter.

[enzie]

I voted Heroin, as it's the only painkiller on there, but I'm not actually that hardcore. Pills ftw.

[Spud]

LIFE!

WOOOO

just kidding, i guess alcohol if thats considered a drug

[America]

well it's on the list you fuckup, what do you think?

[Estolcles]

Pick it, pack it, and fire it up....

[rachel]

No amphetamine ? I saw on 60minutes 80percent of college kids take adderal <spelling ?> to get better grades.

Pain killers are my favorite . morphine to be exact.

dough used to be , but makes me super tired the older i get.

[M.Bison]

Im with rachel on this one, you didnt represent any meth (pharmaceutical or otherwise) and i didnt have the choice to choose multiples(ideally coke/heroin/weed) so i guess i had to vote coke...

[enzie]

bad poll is bad..

not the right options!

[purist]

I speedball while playing EQ

[M.Bison]

I speedball while playing EQ

a good speedball is always the desired effect when recreationally doing drugs imo. 80mg oxycodone insufflated with a gator tail is one of my favorite pre-eq rituals lol

[enzie]

fuck I wish I had both..

[M.Bison]

fuck I wish I had both..

Dont get the impression that this is something i do everytime i sit down and play eq, just one of my favorites. often times i dont have the resources to fund binging like this and am forced to just smoke a bowl like some sort of plebian.=P

[enzie]

oh yea.. I was gonna say, you must be ballin to do that every time you play :D
Shit, even a 15mg roxy and a couple bumps would be nice.

[purist]

a good speedball is always the desired effect when recreationally doing drugs imo. 80mg oxycodone insufflated with a gator tail is one of my favorite pre-eq rituals lol

My favorite pre-EQ ritual is to masturbate and eat some corn chips.

[Hoggen]

Where on your stupid poll is Everquest?

[guineapig]

The tears of infathomable sadness.

[Estolcles]

Where on your stupid poll is Everquest?

"My main drug to do while playing EQ is EQ."

This is Boxing Dependency. :D

[Nakara]

Ether

[M.Bison]

There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge, and I knew we'd get into that rotten stuff pretty soon.

[audacity]

lol @ fuckups

[M.Bison]

lol @ fuckups

Its a common misconception that if one uses drugs they are a fuckup. the fundamental difference is drug use vs. drug abuse. I consider myself a drug user, getting high at night before i play video games, or when going to a party. I use drugs to enhance free time, because it is exactly that, free time. I dont go to classes high, and i dont study high, i dont even go to work high. I currently have a job and i am going to university, both of which are going very well, despite what you may think about my drug use. There is a line between time for work and time for play, and as long as you have some semblance of self control its not hard to maintain this separation.
A drug user finds themselves being blurred into the category of drug abuser once they feel the obligatory need to reach that high. Once you need to get high before work just deal with it, thats when there is a problem. That being said, there is a difference between need and want. Wanting to get high before a party or before u sit down to play eq is fine. Its your free time and no one should be able to tell you how to use it. Wanting to get high before work is fine as well, but you should recognize that this is not your free time, someone is paying you for that time, respect that. The problem arises when you need to get high before anything, imo it might be time to take a step back and ask yourself if it truly is a requirement or not. And if the answer to that question is yes, then seek medical help. Doctors are there to help you, its their hippocratic responsibility to do so. Only when someone realizes they have an abuse problem, but chooses the drug over a healthy life would i classify them as a fuckup.

Although a drug user like myself might be a rarity, we do exist. I like to have a good time when able; but when it comes to important shit, like education, and later on a career, its a no brainer. It all comes down to priorities.

[Hoggen]

Bison... if you try a known addictive substance, then find later you are addicted, and can't quit, then you are a F-up. The problem with your rationalizations is that NO one knows if they are going to get addicted, only that they CAN get addicted based on historical data. Seems to me if you try something knowing it has a chance of screwing up your life forever, you're an F-up. Your post is similar to the reasoning I've heard from countless addicts I've known.. " I'm not addicted, I just like it." "I don't need it, I just want it."

The other great argument of drug losers is that "this study is a lie" or "that's just propaganda from Big Pharma." Take it from someone that worked in a field FULL of drug abusers for years: if you use drugs recreationally, you ARE an F-up. That includes alchohol, if you are consistantly drinking til you get buzzed.
Numbing your brain for fun is F'd up.

[Droxx]

Taco Bell.

[nalkin]

which drug should I use if I want to look as cool as possible?

[xshayla701]

which drug should I use if I want to look as cool as possible?

your love your love your love is my drugggggggg
< oo

[Japan]

which drug should I use if I want to look as cool as possible?

H

[Uthgaard]

Added meth option

[Japan]

mods polluting my list of classy substances with filthy toothless scumbag drugs

[M.Bison]

Take it from someone that worked in a field FULL of drug abusers for years: if you use drugs recreationally, you ARE an F-up. That includes alchohol, if you are consistantly drinking til you get buzzed.
Numbing your brain for fun is F'd up.

I dont doubt that some people do find themselves addicted and fuckup their lives. From personal experience i can tell you, my rationalizations are not flawed. For the last 9 years ive taken every recreational drug listed on this poll (and some that arent listed such as PCP) several times. Knowing full well through historical data that most of them are extremely habit forming. I have yet to come close to anything like an addiction. You might ask yourself, "well if he is addicted, how would he know?" Simply put, even as i write this, i havent been high on a drug in over 3 weeks, and im fine with it. No DTs, no withdrawals. I havent had the time recently, with my job and midterms the last few weeks have required my full time. This is the fundamental difference between a user and an abuser.
Maybe im a fluke, or have an unnatural self control. I find it hard to believe that my self control levels are any higher than the normal person, considering i am very addicted to nicotine. Cigarettes imo are the worst substance to abuse. They dont get you high and when you go without them, you feel like shit, and ultimately the end result is a gasping death.

[Nakara]

The vast majority of people who use drugs do so recreationally and are not addicts. These people of course do not make for good television and movies so all the media feeds us is the tiny minority of people who become addicts.

[Blazed420]

nothing wrong with abusing marijuana!

[Rahnza]

1. LSD
2. MDMA
3. Marijuana

Preferably a combination of any/all of the above.

[audacity]

Its a common misconception that if one uses drugs they are a fuckup. the fundamental difference is drug use vs. drug abuse. I consider myself a drug user, getting high at night before i play video games, or when going to a party. I use drugs to enhance free time, because it is exactly that, free time. I dont go to classes high, and i dont study high, i dont even go to work high. I currently have a job and i am going to university, both of which are going very well, despite what you may think about my drug use. There is a line between time for work and time for play, and as long as you have some semblance of self control its not hard to maintain this separation.
A drug user finds themselves being blurred into the category of drug abuser once they feel the obligatory need to reach that high. Once you need to get high before work just deal with it, thats when there is a problem. That being said, there is a difference between need and want. Wanting to get high before a party or before u sit down to play eq is fine. Its your free time and no one should be able to tell you how to use it. Wanting to get high before work is fine as well, but you should recognize that this is not your free time, someone is paying you for that time, respect that. The problem arises when you need to get high before anything, imo it might be time to take a step back and ask yourself if it truly is a requirement or not. And if the answer to that question is yes, then seek medical help. Doctors are there to help you, its their hippocratic responsibility to do so. Only when someone realizes they have an abuse problem, but chooses the drug over a healthy life would i classify them as a fuckup.

Although a drug user like myself might be a rarity, we do exist. I like to have a good time when able; but when it comes to important shit, like education, and later on a career, its a no brainer. It all comes down to priorities.

I was JK. Honestly, if I wasn't in the Army, didn't have a wife, and kid I would still be smoking.
I get spice every once in awhile, when I'm stateside (currently deployed, so no drugs/alcohol for a YEAR :()
But I agree with you 100%. I was working 2 jobs, going to school full time, and I use to smoke weed before EQ/quake/WoW time, or on weekends. I even dabbled with coke (during midterms and finals week to cram), and of course my FAVVVVVORITE drug would have to be either X or vicoden. I've done coke maybe 20 times in a matter of 5/6 years, X/V I took once or twice a week, weed nearly everyday, it was the only time I could sleep and eat, had some issues irl at that time.

I think everything from weed to heroin should be legal, let stupidity solve itself :)

TLDR? I agree with you, I use to be a drug user.

[Lucrio40]

It makes me laugh how every drug thread has the drug users come out of the wood work and try try to convince everyone that drugs are so great.

"Dude, it has no negative effects and it actually does all this awesome stuff for you! All those studies that suggest it does do negative shit is just a fucking lie! It actually increases lung function, turn water into wine and find your fucking car keys!"

Personally, I don't care if you smoke, shoot up, whatever, but at least stop being in denial that your drug of choice is actually harmful, and you are an addict. You might handle it better than some, but you're still likely an addict.

[Darklake]

Personally, I don't care if you smoke, shoot up, whatever, but at least stop being in denial that your drug of choice is actually harmful, and you are an addict. You might handle it better than some, but you're still likely an addict.

Depends on usage. Last cigarette I had was 15 years ago, last joint I had was about 3 months ago, last drink I had was 5 days ago.

I must be an addict.

[Quineloe]

Hate is good.

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

It makes me laugh how every drug thread has the drug users come out of the wood work and try try to convince everyone that drugs are so great.

"Dude, it has no negative effects and it actually does all this awesome stuff for you! All those studies that suggest it does do negative shit is just a fucking lie! It actually increases lung function, turn water into wine and find your fucking car keys!"

Personally, I don't care if you smoke, shoot up, whatever, but at least stop being in denial that your drug of choice is actually harmful, and you are an addict. You might handle it better than some, but you're still likely an addict.

Well said. I am kind of saddened that so many of the EQ fan base are a bunch of burnouts. I guess it is not surprising if you really think about it. I mean most are social rejects, seeing as how they sit around on a computer a majority of the time playing a game for hours on end. Many are probably unemployed...maybe from playing so much or they play so much cause they don't have a job. So it falls to reason that if you are a reject with no job (or some job that is minimum wage, while going to community college) they probably do "use" just to make themselves not want to kill themselves...lol. I mean I can't say I never tried stuff, but that was back in High School...where you all should have left it. If you are doing this stuff as an adult, then you really need to look at yourself and ask why? And please, don't get on here trying to justify why you do something that is illegal and bad for you physically, mentally, and for all of your relationships in life. It won't fly. Plus it makes you look like and addict...haha.

[Snigel]

Why is it so hard for some people to separate use from abuse?

But I do agree there are no health benefits stemming from either use or abuse, but it's still a big difference between the two.

[Itchybottom]

Cocaine is great for curing a toothache. Coca tea is great for curing an upset stomach (works better than Alka-Selzter or bismuth, by far) and behaves similar to yerba mate as an afternoon pick-me-up. Acetaminophen makes opiates more dangerous than they actually are -- and they [opiates] react differently in the brain depending on if there is pain stimuli or not. The best delivery method for opiates is latex (opium) because you'll likely pass out before overdosing and killing yourself. The itch is what bothers me the most with opiates, which can be handled by chlorphenamine maleate (and as a bonus it can intensify the opioid reaction making it so you use less.)

Recreational use, cocaine is probably the only thing I'd consider in the long term. The high is so short that if it came down to it, you could be completely lucid without the clogged ears or tunnel vision in a matter of minutes. Everyone should have an LSD analogue (not actual LSD since most of you are probably unstable and it'd just draw out your anxieties more) once in their life in a nice calm environment too -- life is all about experiences and it certainly enables you to think differently. You'll want a sitter that isn't going to grill you with questions or be a buzzkill in general, and will just be there just in case.

That being said, I prefer to take Tramadol over Hydrocodone for the nerve damage in my heels, though I have refillable prescriptions for both. I hate having mind fog, and when it comes to most body highs associated with the favored drug here (cannabis) and MOST substances -- it feels like liver overload. I don't see a point in simulating half of the symptoms of hepatic encephalopathy for a recreational purpose; we're all going to die some day, and I don't think a preview showing is the smartest of ideas.

[Daldolma]

tl;dr

Long story short, you're breaking laws and blowing cash to exploit the chemistry of your brain in order to convince yourself that you're happy.

If that's not a problem, I don't know what is. Doesn't matter if you're addicted or not.

[guineapig]

This is the thread where teenagers go to try to be cool and "adults" that never grew up go to try and prove that they are still hip.


Doing drugs is one thing, I'm fine with that... bragging about doing drugs is kind of laughable and sad.

[azeth]

exploit the chemistry of your brain in order to convince yourself that you're happy.

I suppose you're also firmly against the use of modern medicine/medical facilities regardless of your ailments.

Truly, the use of such things is only to convince yourself you're not sick, not dying, not unhappy.

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

I suppose you're also firmly against the use of modern medicine/medical facilities regardless of your ailments.

Truly, the use of such things is only to convince yourself you're not sick, not dying, not unhappy.

That is truly the lamest argument ever. Comparing treatment by a licensed physician for an illness to abusing illegal drugs...really? Taking legal medicine to get rid of a headache or a runny nose it vastly different than shooting up heroine so that you can feel high.

That is like a pedophile saying that you must be uptight if you don't agree with their having sex with children and that by having sex with your wife is just being hypocritical...lol.

Here it comes....wait.........wait...........PUH-LEES!!!

[Snigel]

That is truly the lamest argument ever. Comparing treatment by a licensed physician for an illness to abusing illegal drugs...really? Taking legal medicine to get rid of a headache or a runny nose it vastly different than shooting up heroine so that you can feel high.

That is like a pedophile saying that you must be uptight if you don't agree with their having sex with children and that by having sex with your wife is just being hypocritical...lol.

Here it comes....wait.........wait...........PUH-LEES!!!


What about taking legal medicine to get high?

[Swishahouse]

Heron heron where have ya gone?
Did it all up and now ya got none!

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

What about taking legal medicine to get high?

I assume you mean pain meds and prescribed pot. As to that, I would say it is wrong. A doctor most often times (if they care about their license) will only prescribe a limited amount of meds per incident, so as not to have the patient develop a habit. If they have a chronically ill patient or one who is constant pain, then the will obviously give refills. Those patients however are very few and more than likely not taking the meds to get high. They would be taking them to manage the pain. For those that buy legal drugs from others to get high on, well that is illegal. So at that point they become illegal drugs. they did not get a prescription for the drug therefore it is not legal for them to have them...hence illegal drug.

[azeth]

That is truly the lamest argument ever. Comparing treatment by a licensed physician for an illness to abusing illegal drugs...really? Taking legal medicine to get rid of a headache or a runny nose it vastly different than shooting up heroine so that you can feel high.

That is like a pedophile saying that you must be uptight if you don't agree with their having sex with children and that by having sex with your wife is just being hypocritical...lol.

Here it comes....wait.........wait...........PUH-LEES!!!

Yes, because the legality of the substance is truly indidcative of its usefulness.

^_'

[azeth]

I assume you mean pain meds and prescribed pot. As to that, I would say it is wrong. A doctor most often times (if they care about their license) will only prescribe a limited amount of meds per incident, so as not to have the patient develop a habit. If they have a chronically ill patient or one who is constant pain, then the will obviously give refills. Those patients however are very few and more than likely not taking the meds to get high. They would be taking them to manage the pain. For those that buy legal drugs from others to get high on, well that is illegal. So at that point they become illegal drugs. they did not get a prescription for the drug therefore it is not legal for them to have them...hence illegal drug.

You are seriously so fucking lame dude, cmon. We're not talking about whether or not something is legal.

[azeth]

That is truly the lamest argument ever. Comparing treatment by a licensed physician for an illness to abusing illegal drugs...really? Taking legal medicine to get rid of a headache or a runny nose it vastly different than shooting up heroine so that you can feel high.

That is like a pedophile saying that you must be uptight if you don't agree with their having sex with children and that by having sex with your wife is just being hypocritical...lol.

Here it comes....wait.........wait...........PUH-LEES!!!

Reread what you wrote here Boggwin. What the fuck are you talking about? Honestly, what does something being legal REMOTELY have to do with using it for any sort of ailment?

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

You are seriously so fucking lame dude, cmon. We're not talking about whether or not something is legal.

Then what are you talking about?

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

Reread what you wrote here Boggwin. What the fuck are you talking about? Honestly, what does something being legal REMOTELY have to do with using it for any sort of ailment?

So are you saying that one should be able to use street bought heroine to manage a headache if they choose? That instead of taking FDA approved cough medicine someone should be aloud to take straight Codeine instead? And that by doing so, you are only managing the ailment and not using it to get "high"? Really? Talk about lame. Society has rules and laws for a reason. It is to protect people who do not know better, from themselves.

[Japan]

So are you saying that one should be able to use street bought heroine to manage a headache if they choose?

it wouldn't be street-bought if it were legal.

Yes, someone should be able to use pharmaceutical-grade opiates to manage their pain.

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

it wouldn't be street-bought if it were legal.

Yes, someone should be able to use pharmaceutical-grade opiates to manage their pain.

But we are talking about the real world. The one we live in NOW. The one where it is illegal. If you don't like the law then move to another country were you can do the things you want like shoot up "legal" heroin..hmmm...were would that be? NOWHERE! Why, if it is such a great idea to take these drugs you think are cool, is it not legal anywhere in the entire world? Makes you think....well maybe not you, but the people that actually do think. : )

[Japan]

oh you

[purist]

Boggwin, how old are you?

[azeth]

ITT: People without perspective associate heroine addicts with recreational drug users.

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

ITT: People without perspective associate heroine addicts with recreational drug users.

Wrong. People without perspective believe there is such a thing as a recreational drug user.

True story: A friend of mine ODed on heroin in 1992. Another is now in jail for trying to pass a fake script at a Walgreens after becoming hooked on pain meds and using Meth. Guess what they used to say all of the time? Dude, I only smoke pot on the weekends. What's the big deal? I can stop anytime I want. Just cause you smoke weed doesn't mean you are going to do hard core shit.

I can see past your bullshit lies and theories. Drugs are illegal for a reason. You can think you are cool and badass for doing them. You can think they make you seem more cutting edge that other people; that you are somehow wiser and more in tune with the ills of society and the way things work due to your insight. (kind of funny since almost everyone on here has done the same crap before...thing is, they outgrew it when the got out of high school.) But you can keep up the bullshit all you want. I am done with you. I can't change the mind of an addict. Trust me I tried many times in the past, and with people I actually cared about, not some troll. Have fun blazing, popping pills, free basing, shooting up, and playing EQ. I am sure your parents are real proud of you. :)

[Japan]

Drugs are illegal for a reason.

Reason: people like you turning your opinions on how I should live into legislation.

[azeth]

I am sure your parents are real proud of you. :)


My mom was pretty proud when I bought her a 2010 Range Rov last christmas, yes.

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

My mom was pretty proud when I bought her a 2010 Range Rov last christmas, yes.

I am sure she was...lmao.

[Extunarian]

If you don't like the law then move to another country were you can do the things you want like shoot up "legal" heroin..hmmm...were would that be? NOWHERE!

Wait...do you believe this? Heroin can be prescribed in many countries around the world.

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

Wait...do you believe this? Heroin can be prescribed in many countries around the world.

The only place I know that is true of, is the U.K. and only for very serious cancer patients. Not aware of other countries though. And no where is it legal on the streets...period. Same for coke and weed. Look it up. There are places that have decriminalized it to an extent, but flat out legal...nope. Even in the Netherlands ...sorry.

[purist]

Oh, and another point for all you "drug-legalizers" out there... Legalizing marijuana might make a black man think he has the right to look a white man like me in the eye.

[Snigel]

Pharmaceutical heroin is available for addicts in:
UK
Germany
Switzerland
Netherlands
Canada

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

Oh, and another point for all you "drug-legalizers" out there... Legalizing marijuana might make a black man think he has the right to look a white man like me in the eye.

You are a moron. Are you trying to equate people that say that illegal drugs are bad, with racist? I kind of see it is a thinly veiled attempt at it. God, I hope you are just kidding, but if not, you really need help.

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

Pharmaceutical heroin is available for addicts in:
UK
Germany
Switzerland
Netherlands
Canada

For addicts, but what about for everyone else? I wonder if there is a reason for that. :)

Thanks for the facts Snigel.

[purist]

Boggwin's right, reconsider mandatory-minimum sentences and these Negro brutes with their jazz cigarettes from Harlem to New Orleans will think they got the right to look at a white woman twice.

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

Boggwin's right, reconsider mandatory-minimum sentences and these Negro brutes with their jazz cigarettes from Harlem to New Orleans will think they got the right to look at a white woman twice.

Purist, you are a true idiot. You cannot argue with facts or reason so you try to make those who disagree with you seem racist by bringing race into the argument. (Which I clearly did not do...check my post. This guy is a moron) It shows you have both a small mind and no class. And to the African-American readers on this forum, I apologize for him.

[Japan]

Look dude: I understand that prohibition protects those of weak constitution from becoming addicted. But why should my habit be criminalized when I can exercise the self-control to not be a menace to society?

Where I came up it was the norm to shoot up on a daily basis, and none of the heroin heads I know ever did anything wrong on account of their hobby. And let's not even get into the amph-heads, many of whom could buy and sell you today on account of all the shit they got done thanks to their habit.

I remember when I was little, while my mom was boiling our potatoes for dinner my dad would be right there next to her cooking up some freebase to smoke for dessert. And boy when I smoked that shit I would get my homework done right quick -- now I'm going to an Ivy League institution, all thanks to this activity you think should remain criminalized. Your perspective is twisted bro.

[purist]

Purist, you are a true idiot. You cannot argue with facts or reason so you try to make those who disagree with you seem racist by bringing race into the argument. (Which I clearly did not do...check my post. This guy is a moron) It shows you have both a small mind and no class. And to the African-American readers on this forum, I apologize for him.

Probably because your opinion on drugs sounds like it was derived from a 1920s government textbook.

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

Probably because your opinion on drugs sounds like it was derived from a 1920s government textbook.

Sorry pal but you are in the EXTREME minority on this issue. Grow up and learn how to argue without playing the race card.

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

Look dude: I understand that prohibition protects those of weak constitution from becoming addicted. But why should my habit be criminalized when I can exercise the self-control to not be a menace to society?

Where I came up it was the norm to shoot up on a daily basis, and none of the heroin heads I know ever did anything wrong on account of their hobby. And let's not even get into the amph-heads, many of whom could buy and sell you today on account of all the shit they got done thanks to their habit.

I remember when I was little, while my mom was boiling our potatoes for dinner my dad would be right there next to her cooking up some freebase to smoke for dessert. And boy when I smoked that shit I would get my homework done right quick -- now I'm going to an Ivy League institution, all thanks to this activity you think should remain criminalized. Your perspective is twisted bro.

I was going to actually put thought into a reply for this, but then I read the whole thing and realized you were kidding...lol. Almost had me going. :)

[purist]

Sorry pal but you are in the EXTREME minority on this issue. Grow up and learn how to argue without playing the race card.

I haven't articulated any position, so how would you know whether or not I am in the "extreme minority?"

[Nakara]

Sorry pal but you are in the EXTREME minority on this issue. Grow up and learn how to argue without playing the race card.

You realize most of America's drugs laws are the result of direct racism right? Marijuana laws in the 1920's targeting Mexican-Americans, mandatory minimum sentences for crack and cocaine possession in the 1980's targeting African-Americans.

Read a fucking book.

[Ihealyou]

You guys are meanies :(

[Badmartigan]

Boggwin's replies have nothing to do with his favorite drug.

I dont get it ? If you are so anti-drug why are you in a pro-drug thread ? Get a fucking life bramble-foot-inmouth.

[karsten]

bogwin with the most successful troll ITT?

YOU DECIDE (2010tm)

[Rahnza]

When I was 18 I had never even smoked pot. I was aimless, working shitty jobs, and had no focus.

Over the past 4 years I began experimenting with drugs and still participate in doing anything besides "the big 3" (crack, heroin, meth). I'm a straight-A college student with a much more stable and fulfilling life.

I'm not saying that I'm more successful because of drug use, but not everyone who does drugs is a hopeless addict.

If you can practice moderation and educate yourself on what you're doing, you should reap the benefits of occasional drug use. Otherwise, you should probably stay away. I know someone who had a religious experience while on acid and became a buddhist and is currently serving in the peace corps; and I know someone who let themselves become completely ruined by heroin. It all depends on the person.

[Extunarian]

A friend of mine ODed on heroin in 1992. Another is now in jail for trying to pass a fake script at a Walgreens after becoming hooked on pain meds and using Meth. Guess what they used to say all of the time?

I failed at the 'weights and measures' unit in physical science class and I am too dumb to buy pills from an online pharm?

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

You guys can keep trying to justify why you are total losers but it will not change that fact that you are total losers. The vast majority of people in the world do not agree with your choice, but it is your choice. So have fun, but please stop acting like idiots by saying that your not addicts. A "casual user" would not defend using as much as you addicts do...haha.

And before you tell me how you are all A students, or millionaires, or have great jobs and stuff, stop. I mean really, how many times have I heard that in game. "...whatever fag, a make like eight figures a year, my wife's a model, I used to be in Delta Force after finishing ninja school; where I got all A's..." lol. So unless you can prove it, you will be that skinny little doper...sitting in your mommy's basement, beating off to internet porn, while eating hot pockets.

[Japan]

ITT purist gets trolled :(

[M.Bison]

You guys can keep trying to justify why you are total losers but it will not change that fact that you are total losers. The vast majority of people in the world do not agree with your choice, but it is your choice.

The vast majority of people in the world believe in intelligent design. Does this make their opinion correct, just because a vast majority believes it to be? The vast majority of people in the world are stupid. Do you really want to align yourself with an opinion just because it is popular? lol i do drugs and im supposed to be the unintelligent one.

[Daldolma]

I suppose you're also firmly against the use of modern medicine/medical facilities regardless of your ailments.

Truly, the use of such things is only to convince yourself you're not sick, not dying, not unhappy.

Not really. The use of penicillin has nothing to do with convincing yourself of anything. It's introduced to the body in order to combat bacterial infections. It's curative in nature, along with most modern medicines and medical therapies. It's not about convincing yourself you're not sick, not dying, not unhappy. It's about preventing you from being sick, or dying.

Now, there are certain modern medications that are designed to minimize unhappiness. Anti-depressants and pain-killers, for instance. But these are meant to be used in moderation, as prescribed by a medical professional, in order to eliminate discomfort. In the case of pain-killers, yes -- you're convincing yourself you're not in pain. But if they are prescribed correctly, that's because you should be in extraordinary, debilitating discomfort without them -- not because daddy didn't give you enough hugs and you need to check out mentally for awhile.

But nonetheless, my point remains the same. I didn't necessarily say I was against drug use. I just said that if you're breaking the law and blowing significant amounts of cash on drugs in order to manipulate your brain chemistry to convince yourself you're happy, then you have a problem -- addicted or not. I fail to see how that reflects upon modern medicine. If you utilize modern medicine to cure an ailment, it's completely unrelated. If you use modern medicine to treat an issue like depression or pain, then yes -- just like an illegal drug user, you clearly have a problem. But I'd argue that taking prescription medications as advised by a medical professional with years and years of experience is a bit more responsible than hitting up a pharmacy operating out of some dude's Toyota.

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

The vast majority of people in the world believe in intelligent design. Does this make their opinion correct, just because a vast majority believes it to be? The vast majority of people in the world are stupid. Do you really want to align yourself with an opinion just because it is popular? lol i do drugs and im supposed to be the unintelligent one.

Yes you are the unintelligent one. So you think the vast majority of people are stupid because the believe in God and don't do drugs? I kind of figured you would say that. Leave it to a loser addict to say everyone else is wrong so they can feel justified.

[Nakara]

So you think the vast majority of people are stupid because they believe in God

Yes.

[Extunarian]

Yes you are the unintelligent one. So you think the vast majority of people are stupid because the believe in God and don't do drugs? I kind of figured you would say that. Leave it to a loser addict to say everyone else is wrong so they can feel justified.

You sure say vast majority a lot. Is that just a term you apply to any group of people that share your views, no matter the size relative to the population as a whole?

2/3rds of adults in the US drink alcohol. Close to 1/3rd use marijuana.

As you (nearly) said:

Leave it to a loser to say everyone else is wrong so they can feel justified.

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

You sure say vast majority a lot. Is that just a term you apply to any group of people that share your views, no matter the size relative to the population as a whole?

2/3rds of adults in the US drink alcohol. Close to 1/3rd use marijuana.

As you (nearly) said:

We are not talking about "drinking" alcohol. Plus I said in the world...not just America. And close to 1/3rd is not 1/3. So under 1/3 of the people smoke pot...I call bullshit on that fact...but if so, that leaves more than 2/3rd who don't...the vast majority...lol. Is logic that hard for an addict to grasp?

[Nakara]

You are not taking into consideration the people who support marijuana, but do not actively use it. The number of total marijuana supporters could very well outnumber it's opponents.

Just look at proposition 203 in Arizona that was recently passed. One of the reddest states in the nation managed to pass a MMJ proposition. So no, the vast majority of the nation does not oppose marijuana.

[Extunarian]

We are not talking about "drinking" alcohol. Plus I said in the world...not just America. And close to 1/3rd is not 1/3. So under 1/3 of the people smoke pot...I call bullshit on that fact...but if so, that leaves more than 2/3rd who don't...the vast majority...lol. Is logic that hard for an addict to grasp?

#1 I don't use any drugs. I just think your worldview is completely off base.

#2 Alcohol is a drug. There is no way that you can call someone who smokes pot once a week an 'addict' and not consider alcohol to be a drug, sorry.

#3 Since not all drinkers smoke pot, and not all smokers drink, the union of the populations must be over 2/3rds...aka a "vast majority" of the US population. If you want to point to international statistics I suggest you take your own advice and move to a country with a population that is more in line with your views.

Finally, there is a distinction between people who don't use drugs, and people who are against their use. I'm the latter and not the former.

[Nakara]

You are not taking into consideration the people who support marijuana, but do not actively use it. The number of total marijuana supporters could very well outnumber it's opponents.

Just look at proposition 203 in Arizona that was recently passed. One of the reddest states in the nation managed to pass a MMJ proposition. So no, the vast majority of the nation does not oppose marijuana.

Not sure why I'm even posting, because your typing makes you seem pretty illiterate and you most likely don't even follow U.S. politics but whatever.

[Nakara]

Hit quote instead of edit oh well.

[M.Bison]

Yes you are the unintelligent one. So you think the vast majority of people are stupid because the believe in God and don't do drugs? I kind of figured you would say that. Leave it to a loser addict to say everyone else is wrong so they can feel justified.

Yes. I do believe the vast majority of people are stupid because they believe in god.

I like how you clump god and not doing drugs together, as if the two are mutually exclusive. The use of peyote has been used in numerous native american religions, as a way to attune themselves with their god. The choice to use or not use drugs has nothing to do with intelligence, its a personal preference. The choice to believe in an intelligent creator when everything modern science tells you is contrary to that, is blind ignorance.

The vast majority is hardly a infallible source. Hell, at one point in time, the 'vast majority' believed the earth was flat, and the center of the galaxy. Leave it to a mindless sheep to follow the vast majority just so they can feel a part of something. (regardless of how ignorant that something is.)

a bunch of burnouts.
most are social rejects
Many are probably unemployed.
Makes you think....well maybe not you, but the people that actually do think.
I can see past your bullshit lies
I can't change the mind of an addict.
You are a moron.
You guys can keep trying to justify why you are total losers but it will not change that fact that you are total losers.
you will be that skinny little doper.
sitting in your mommy's basement
beating off to internet porn
while eating hot pockets.



The vast majority of assholes believe that using drugs makes you all or one of the following: an addict, a loser, poor, unintelligent, single (or if not single, involved with a very ugly person?), skinny, living in your moms basement, a liar, one who eats hotpockets, one who beats off to internet porn, a burnout, a social reject, unemployed.

Its so easy to make an argument when u have the 'vast majority' backing you! srsly, try it out guys; it's logical easy mode!

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

Hit quote instead of edit oh well.

I do follow politics. I have a degree in political science. I work for a state legislature. I am pretty sure I know way more about politics than you do...trust me on that one. Are you able to distinguish MMJ from the legalization of marijuana? Arizona is a red state...not one of the reddest like you claim, but I will ignore that. How did that Prop 19 go over in one of the bluest states...you know, the one that would make it legal to have marijuana?? Did it pass...thought so. So sit down and try again.

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

Yes. I do believe the vast majority of people are stupid because they believe in god.

I like how you clump god and not doing drugs together, as if the two are mutually exclusive. The use of peyote has been used in numerous native american religions, as a way to attune themselves with their god. The choice to use or not use drugs has nothing to do with intelligence, its a personal preference. The choice to believe in an intelligent creator when everything modern science tells you is contrary to that, is blind ignorance.

The vast majority is hardly a infallible source. Hell, at one point in time, the 'vast majority' believed the earth was flat, and the center of the galaxy. Leave it to a mindless sheep to follow the vast majority just so they can feel a part of something. (regardless of how ignorant that something is.)
















The vast majority of assholes believe that using drugs makes you all or one of the following: an addict, a loser, poor, unintelligent, single (or if not single, involved with a very ugly person?), skinny, living in your moms basement, a liar, one who eats hotpockets, one who beats off to internet porn, a burnout, a social reject, unemployed.

Its so easy to make an argument when u have the 'vast majority' backing you! srsly, try it out guys; it's logical easy mode!

Stop trying to kid yourself. I am sure you are at least three of the above...haha.

[M.Bison]

I do follow politics. I have a degree in political science. I work for a state legislature.

I was wondering how someone could be as close-minded and ignorant as you are showing yourself to be. Then you posted this and it all clicked, you're paid to be that way. It all makes sense now.

[Japan]

Stop trying to kid yourself. I am sure you are at least three of the above...haha.

delicious logical fallacy
http://paradoxdgn.com/junk/avatars/trollface.jpg

[Nakara]

I have a degree in political science.

Lol

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

I was wondering how someone could be as close-minded and ignorant as you are showing yourself to be. Then you posted this and it all clicked, you're paid to be that way. It all makes sense now.

Why is that? Oh is the government bad? The evil government and big corporations. The entities that take care you your pathetic butt. You are so fringe and cutting edge. NOT! You are an outcast to society. You want everyone to change to suit your way of life. You cannot accept that most everyone is not like you. They do not fear the government, or big corporations, or money, or soap...lol. But you want society to change so that you can feel better about yourself. Crawl back into your closet and put your tinfoil hat back on so the government doesn't steal your thoughts...lol. What a joke. You are really a dime a dozen. Just go to any liberal campus and throw a hacky sack. You will hit a ton of kids just like you.

[Nakara]

You claim to have a degree but you can barely form a coherent sentence. University of Phoenix online?

You also think that drug laws have nothing to do with race when that is the only thing that they have historically had to do with.

I bet you're still in high school.

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

You claim to have a degree but you can barely form a coherent sentence. University of Phoenix online?

You also think that drug laws have nothing to do with race when that is the only thing that they have historically had to do with.

I bet you're still in high school.

I'm sorry. Are you now the grammar police? I type fast and I am not proofing my post, because they are post...not work. Haha. Which sentence is hard for your to understand. I know that is another tactic of people who cannot argue. Bring up grammar mistakes, but I am sure you can bring up a valid point some time.

An stop using the race card. It makes you look even more stupid than using the whole "improper grammar" thing....lol.

[Nakara]

An stop using the race card.

Why? Our current day marijuana laws were put in place to target Mexicans in the 1920's. Our current day crack/cocaine laws were put in place to target blacks in the 1980's.

Once again, do yourself a favor and read a fucking book.

[Nakara]

Past racism directly affects us today news at 10

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

Why? Our current day marijuana laws were put in place to target Mexicans in the 1920's. Our current day crack/cocaine laws were put in place to target blacks in the 1980's.

Once again, do yourself a favor and read a fucking book.

So what is they DID? DID, as in the past. Sorry buddy, drugs are still illegal no matter what the reason. Cry about it somewhere else. You are such a broken record. BTW I know the point you bring up. I am just ignoring it because it is no longer valid. It was in the past. And I have read a fucking book...lol. And writing "fucking" does not get you point across any better...haha. Loser.

[Trademaster]

Considering the quality of discussion in this thread, I felt this was appropriate:

3EkBuKQEkio

Except that both side are of as dizzying an intellect as Vizzini

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

Why? Our current day marijuana laws were put in place to target Mexicans in the 1920's. Our current day crack/cocaine laws were put in place to target blacks in the 1980's.

Once again, do yourself a favor and read a fucking book.

Also since you read so much, did you know that many legislatures are rewriting those laws to make them more relevant to today's sensitivities? Crack and coke are treated the same in most states now, in order to close the racial gap on sentencing guidelines. So cry me a river. :)

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

Considering the quality of discussion in this thread, I felt this was appropriate:

3EkBuKQEkio

Except that both side are of as dizzying an intellect as Vizzini

Hehe...Nice. :)

[Trademaster]

Youtube EZcode is not compatible here? that stinks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EkBuKQEkio

[Japan]

Considering the quality of discussion in this thread, I felt this was appropriate:

3EkBuKQEkio

Except that both side are of as dizzying an intellect as Vizzini

HOW IS PREVIEW FORMED

HOW POST GET SUCCESSFUL

[quido]

Marijuana
LSD
Ketamine
DMT
Pharmies

4.0 Student
Penis still works great

[quido]

Let's not forget America's favorite drug to abuse - caffeine!

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

Last one of the night for me:

If drugs are so great, why don't you tell your boss about all the drugs you do. Or better yet, the cops. Why don't you tell them about how cool you are and how you are superhuman now that you take drugs? How your grades are so great, and you make so much money and have successful lives. Why don't you tell them? I really want an answer on this.

[Nakara]

If drugs are so great, why don't you tell your boss about all the drugs you do. Or better yet, the cops. Why don't you tell them about how cool you are and how you are superhuman now that you take drugs? How your grades are so great, and you make so much money and have successful lives. Why don't you tell them? I really want an answer on this.

Uhh the same reason I don't talk to the cops or my boss about my sex life. Because it's my private business.

[Nakara]

I also don't tell my boss how much I drink on the weekends

[Nakara]

But apparently you do

[Daldolma]

Look, I don't really have a dog in this fight. I don't do drugs, but I have plenty of friends who do, and I don't really give a f*ck if any of you choose to get high off your ass or not.

But I hope nobody is missing the irony of a bunch of stoners trying to re-live the glory days of a 1999 video game and explaining to everyone how drugs have made them the success they are today.

This whole thread should be a fucking Drug Free America campaign.

PS: Is it supposed to be profound that modern drug laws are based on formerly racist legislation? Just about every law in America was, at some point or another, affected by racism. That doesn't mean The Man is illegalizing cocaine to keep the black man behind bars. Cocaine has been essentially illegal in this country for 85 years. The ideology of outlawing cocaine is unrelated to the practical implementation of the ban. You're bitching about the implementation; but one way or the other, cocaine was not made illegal to throw black guys in jail. It was just used as a good excuse.

[M.Bison]

Why is that? Oh is the government bad? The evil government and big corporations. The entities that take care you your pathetic butt. You are so fringe and cutting edge. NOT! You are an outcast to society. You want everyone to change to suit your way of life. You cannot accept that most everyone is not like you. They do not fear the government, or big corporations, or money, or soap...lol. But you want society to change so that you can feel better about yourself. Crawl back into your closet and put your tinfoil hat back on so the government doesn't steal your thoughts...lol. What a joke. You are really a dime a dozen. Just go to any liberal campus and throw a hacky sack. You will hit a ton of kids just like you.

Which one is it? Am i "a dime a dozen" or are "most everyone not like me."

First of all, I view any consolidation of power as a bad thing. IMO "the state" is completely superfluous to the whole 'system'. The state offers its citizens nothing that a free market system cant better and for a lower cost. The only thing 'the state' offers is a pre-existing hierarchy of power, making it that much easier for corrupt leaders to fuck things up. The hardest part of ruining a society is gathering and consolidating power, and the current system has done all that leg work for them!

Second, I have yet to ever go on anything that could be classified as 'welfare.' That includes unemployment, and food stamps. I actually find it funny that when you detect any inclination of disdain for current govt. you immediately resort to the "That evil govt you hate takes care of you, you freeloader!" argument. Its getting a little old IMO.

Finally, I personally love corporations, they epitomize everything good about capitalism.

I find your arguments seriously lacking substance. Which is surprising, considering they are coming from someone who claims to have a political science degree.

[M.Bison]

Last one of the night for me:

If drugs are so great, why don't you tell your boss about all the drugs you do. Or better yet, the cops. Why don't you tell them about how cool you are and how you are superhuman now that you take drugs? How your grades are so great, and you make so much money and have successful lives. Why don't you tell them? I really want an answer on this.

Lol, can we say "grasping at straws?" Im guessing this is supposed to show us that our personal choices are wrong in the eyes of society? Your arguments have degraded into feeble attempts to push morality onto us now. Weak mind is weak.

[Daldolma]

"IMO "the state" is completely superfluous to the whole 'system'. The state offers its citizens nothing that a free market system cant better and for a lower cost."

Not a very well thought-out point of view. Is a free market system going to provide public schooling? How about welfare? Foreign defense? Laws? Law enforcement? Public roads? Public transportation? Health care?

You want to see why a free market system doesn't work? Look outside. If it weren't for the state, the market economy of the most wealthy, most powerful nation in the world would have crumbled overnight. The derivatives market went from next to nothing in 2001 to over $60 trillion by 2008. Do you understand how insanely irresponsible that is? $60 trillion is like the entire world's annual GDP. The money didn't exist. The whole market was being fueled by what was essentially a Ponzi scheme. That's what you get with a free market. Lehman Brothers, Goldman Sachs, Bernie Madoff -- it's all the same. They're trading money they don't have. It was always only a matter of time before it came crashing down, but hey: everyone got rich.

[M.Bison]

Not a very well thought-out point of view. Is a free market system going to provide public schooling? How about welfare? Foreign defense? Laws? Law enforcement? Public roads? Public transportation? Health care?

I beg to differ, Anarcho-Capitalism is a very well though out point of view. All the things youve listed here can be considered economic goods. If the state were to no longer off public schools, welfare, foreign defense, law enforcement, public roads/transportation, or health care, I can guarantee that some private businesses would offer them. I can say this with certainty because there is money to be made off of each and everyone of these services. One might argue that the services offered privately would be shotty in comparison to what the state currently offers. This is a valid argument, but consider the nature of capitalism; you want to offer the very best product at the absolute lowest price possible. Competition will drive the price down, while simultaneously driving quality up.

If you are truly interested in this line of thinking I'd recommend a book by Dr. Phillip D Friedman, called The Machinery of Freedom. Its a direct cost/benefit of a state vs no state society. And like all good anarcho-capitalist literature its available free on-line! The biggest concern most people show when discussing an anarcho-capitalist society is how will laws and law enforcement be handled. People want to feel protected, and dont mind sacrificing a few freedoms if it means guaranteeing this. This is a valid concern, but instead of diving into a 10 page dissertation of laws and law enforcement on the free market, ill direct you to this link, which has done all the work for me.

http://www.daviddfriedman.com/Libertarian/Machinery_of_Freedom/MofF_Chapter_29.html

[nalkin]

ITT: Someone with the correct argument loses the debate.

[quido]

Last one of the night for me:

If drugs are so great, why don't you tell your boss about all the drugs you do. Or better yet, the cops. Why don't you tell them about how cool you are and how you are superhuman now that you take drugs? How your grades are so great, and you make so much money and have successful lives. Why don't you tell them? I really want an answer on this.

You have gotta be fuckin retarded

[SlankyLanky]

bison just ripped this thread a new asshole.

[Rahnza]

They probably can't afford coke.

Except coke is a dirty, unhealthy, addictive drug; whereas mdma is (if you don't get shitty product) cleaner, non-addictive, and way more fun.

Cocaine is for frat parties and blacks.

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

I beg to differ, Anarcho-Capitalism is a very well though out point of view. All the things youve listed here can be considered economic goods. If the state were to no longer off public schools, welfare, foreign defense, law enforcement, public roads/transportation, or health care, I can guarantee that some private businesses would offer them. I can say this with certainty because there is money to be made off of each and everyone of these services. One might argue that the services offered privately would be shotty in comparison to what the state currently offers. This is a valid argument, but consider the nature of capitalism; you want to offer the very best product at the absolute lowest price possible. Competition will drive the price down, while simultaneously driving quality up.

If you are truly interested in this line of thinking I'd recommend a book by Dr. Phillip D Friedman, called The Machinery of Freedom. Its a direct cost/benefit of a state vs no state society. And like all good anarcho-capitalist literature its available free on-line! The biggest concern most people show when discussing an anarcho-capitalist society is how will laws and law enforcement be handled. People want to feel protected, and dont mind sacrificing a few freedoms if it means guaranteeing this. This is a valid concern, but instead of diving into a 10 page dissertation of laws and law enforcement on the free market, ill direct you to this link, which has done all the work for me.

http://www.daviddfriedman.com/Libertarian/Machinery_of_Freedom/MofF_Chapter_29.html

You remind me of that college dude in the bar scene in "Good Will Hunting". The one that regurgitates crap that he read in a book or parrots the same exact thing that his professor told him in class. Do you have original thought....ever!

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

Lol, can we say "grasping at straws?" Im guessing this is supposed to show us that our personal choices are wrong in the eyes of society? Your arguments have degraded into feeble attempts to push morality onto us now. Weak mind is weak.

Feeble attempts at morality? I just wanted and answer to the question. If anything I was wanting to show the "illegality" of the thing, not the morality. Not as smart as you think you are huh? LMAO.

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

Which one is it? Am i "a dime a dozen" or are "most everyone not like me."

First of all, I view any consolidation of power as a bad thing. IMO "the state" is completely superfluous to the whole 'system'. The state offers its citizens nothing that a free market system cant better and for a lower cost. The only thing 'the state' offers is a pre-existing hierarchy of power, making it that much easier for corrupt leaders to fuck things up. The hardest part of ruining a society is gathering and consolidating power, and the current system has done all that leg work for them!

Second, I have yet to ever go on anything that could be classified as 'welfare.' That includes unemployment, and food stamps. I actually find it funny that when you detect any inclination of disdain for current govt. you immediately resort to the "That evil govt you hate takes care of you, you freeloader!" argument. Its getting a little old IMO.

Finally, I personally love corporations, they epitomize everything good about capitalism.

I find your arguments seriously lacking substance. Which is surprising, considering they are coming from someone who claims to have a political science degree.

You are one of those tinfoil hat people aren't you?

[karsten]

A few thoughts from your friendly neighborhood PALadin:

1. Anarchocapitalism is sorta internet trendy -- clearly one needs to be bright and think outside the bun to be a follower of it, but ehhhhh (this coming from a very proud libertarian)

2. Japan is owning most of you in this thread by using very few words. True internet JUDO

3. Man I have TWO degrees in Political Science. Just thought I'd mention that for supreme internet bragging rights.

Love,
Karsten

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

A few thoughts from your friendly neighborhood PALadin:

1. Anarchocapitalism is sorta internet trendy -- clearly one needs to be bright and think outside the bun to be a follower of it, but ehhhhh (this coming from a very proud libertarian)

2. Japan is owning most of you in this thread by using very few words. True internet JUDO

3. Man I have TWO degrees in Political Science. Just thought I'd mention that for supreme internet bragging rights.

Love,
Karsten

It is very internet trendy with people who want to appear rebellious and fringe. It is nothing more than a form of anarchy. Just like Bison's ideas on drugs, this has never been instituted anywhere in the world. You can argue that it has been practiced in a form in the past but it is not currently used anywhere. Why is that? And you do not need to be bright or think outside the bun to grasp it. It is all about the me ,me ,me mentality. Not surprising that most who believe in this are: social liberals, non-conformist, and atheist. Once again, if it is such a great idea, why is it not practiced anywhere? Are you saying that you are smarter than everyone else and they do not know how to institute the governments they have in their countries?

[karsten]

ohsnaps i think i just let myself get trolled

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

ohsnaps i think i just let myself get trolled

No, I think you trolled me...see I can do that too. Why is it trolling when you discuss something on a forum? Isn't that the reason people post things - to discuss an issue or topic? Then why is it that you accuse me of being a troll? Is it easier for your to call someone a name or accuse them of trolling, than it is to offer a retort? Does it make you feel like you "win" by dismissing someone or calling them a name? Whatever makes your e-peen grow I suppose. :D

[azeth]

No, I think you trolled me...see I can do that too. Why is it trolling when you discuss something on a forum? Isn't that the reason people post things - to discuss an issue or topic? Then why is it that you accuse me of being a troll?

You're not a troll because you're disagreeing with people. You're a troll because your points are so pedestrian that we can only assume you're trolling.

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

You're not a troll because you're disagreeing with people. You're a troll because your points are so pedestrian that we can only assume you're trolling.

Pedestrian how? Because you don't agree with them? Give me an example.

[azeth]

Pedestrian how? Because you don't agree with them? Give me an example.

For me, it started where you compared heroine addicts to recreational pot users.

[M.Bison]

Not surprising that most who believe in this are: social liberals, non-conformist, and atheist.

Social Liberals: Recognize the legitimacy of the state to provide services such as healthcare, unemployment, and education.
I find it hard to believe that someone who calls themselves a social liberal would align themselves with a group that recognizes no legitimacy for the state or any services it provides. These groups are in direct opposition with each other.

Non-Conformist: The refusal to conform.
Do I have to point out the subjectivity of this term? One can argue that Jesus was a non-conformist. Hitler could also be considered a non-conformist. George Washington is also a great example of what one could consider to be a non-conformist. On a smaller scale one could view a non-conformist as anyone who disagrees with them on a personal level. Following that line of thinking, you're a non-conformist.

Atheist - the rejection of belief in a deity.
I'm assuming this is supposed to be a bad thing somehow, although I fail to understand why.

Nice try.
Your attempts at trolling were unsuccessful.
You have gotten better at Trolling! (2)

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

For me, it started where you compared heroine addicts to recreational pot users.

ITT: People without perspective associate heroine addicts with recreational drug users.
__________________

That was your quote, not mine. I never compared the two. Sorry.

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

Social Liberals: Recognize the legitimacy of the state to provide services such as healthcare, unemployment, and education.
I find it hard to believe that someone who calls themselves a social liberal would align themselves with a group that recognizes no legitimacy for the state or any services it provides. These groups are in direct opposition with each other.

Non-Conformist: The refusal to conform.
Do I have to point out the subjectivity of this term? One can argue that Jesus was a non-conformist. Hitler could also be considered a non-conformist. George Washington is also a great example of what one could consider to be a non-conformist. On a smaller scale one could view a non-conformist as anyone who disagrees with them on a personal level. Following that line of thinking, you're a non-conformist.

Atheist - the rejection of belief in a deity.
I'm assuming this is supposed to be a bad thing somehow, although I fail to understand why.

Nice try.
Your attempts at trolling were unsuccessful.
You have gotten better at Trolling! (2)

Social Liberals - Post-left anarchy is a recent current in anarchist thought that seeks to distance itself from the traditional Left (communism, social liberalism, social democracy, etc.) and to escape the confines of ideology in general. It has rapidly developed since the fall of the Soviet Union, which many view as the death of authoritarian leftism; however, its roots are clearly visible in the ideas of the 1960's Situationists. It is not an independent "movement" as such but rather a critical way of thinking about anarchist ideas. Post-leftists frequently use the word anarchy instead of anarchism to avoid the -ism suffix's connotations of doctrine.

Non-conformist - check.

Atheist - check.

You have almost gotten better at thinking (1/2)

[Dentalplan]

You guys are getting trolled so hard.

[Loke]

A couple days ago I might have changed my vote to adderall - seriously a miracle drug for studying. Rocking like 8-12 hour library session for the past week or so. However, after a week of taking it - I feel like death... seriously, I think I'm dying.

As far as users and addicts and what not - I think however someone chooses to spend their time is their own business. If someone wants to be homeless and beg, borrow or steal to get their fix, that is their decision and they'll have to live with it. If I want to skip class too often and then use amphetamine salts to binge study in the library for a week straight - that is my decision. Too many people in this world are concerned how others spend their lives. I think it's more pathetic that there are people in this world who devote their time and energy to dictating how others live their lives than the fact that some people are content being life long stoners.

[azeth]

Boggwin it's interesting how often you identify that we all "live in mom's basement" etc. I understand that perhaps your scumbag friends may have ruined there lives with drugs, but I think you fail to understand that most/many of us have not. Nor will.. remotely.

[M.Bison]

Social Liberals - Post-left anarchy is a recent current in anarchist thought that seeks to distance itself from the traditional Left (communism, social liberalism, social democracy, etc.) and to escape the confines of ideology in general. It has rapidly developed since the fall of the Soviet Union, which many view as the death of authoritarian leftism; however, its roots are clearly visible in the ideas of the 1960's Situationists. It is not an independent "movement" as such but rather a critical way of thinking about anarchist ideas. Post-leftists frequently use the word anarchy instead of anarchism to avoid the -ism suffix's connotations of doctrine.


You have almost gotten better at thinking (1/2)

So a quick google revealed http://www.anarchymag.org/node/8 as your source.

"Post-left anarchy is a recent current in anarchist thought that seeks to distance itself from the traditional Left (communism, social liberalism, social democracy, etc.) and to escape the confines of ideology in general"
Lets quickly evaluate what the first sentence is saying. It states "Post-left anarchy seeks to distance itself from the traditional left." and then goes on to give examples of what the "traditional left" could be considered "(communism, social liberalism, social democracy, etc.) " So ultimately what you linked as supporting evidence to your claim that anarchocapitalism and social liberals share common beliefs, is in reality, saying that an anarchocapitalism seeks to distance themselves from a social liberal beliefs.

Im not sure which to attack first here, your fail at reading comprehension, or your fail at trolling...

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

Boggwin it's interesting how often you identify that we all "live in mom's basement" etc. I understand that perhaps your scumbag friends may have ruined there lives with drugs, but I think you fail to understand that most/many of us have not. Nor will.. remotely.

My scumbag friends, as you put it, were/are just like you...haha.

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

So a quick google revealed http://www.anarchymag.org/node/8 as your source.

"Post-left anarchy is a recent current in anarchist thought that seeks to distance itself from the traditional Left (communism, social liberalism, social democracy, etc.) and to escape the confines of ideology in general"
Lets quickly evaluate what the first sentence is saying. It states "Post-left anarchy seeks to distance itself from the traditional left." and then goes on to give examples of what the "traditional left" could be considered "(communism, social liberalism, social democracy, etc.) " So ultimately what you linked as supporting evidence to your claim that anarchocapitalism and social liberals share common beliefs, is in reality, saying that an anarchocapitalism seeks to distance themselves from a social liberal beliefs.

Im not sure which to attack first here, your fail at reading comprehension, or your fail at trolling...

Troll!

[azeth]

My scumbag friends, as you put it, were/are just like you...haha.

Just like me huh? Please do tell.

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

Just like me huh? Please do tell.

Because they defended their habits just as ardently as you have. They said that nothing bad would come from it. I have hear all of your crap before...from them. That is how.

[M.Bison]

Troll!

Intellectual dominance established. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to go get high.

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

Q. - How do you keep and addict busy?

A. - Troll the forums and fuck with them...lol.

[azeth]

Q. - How do you keep and addict busy?

A. - Troll the forums and fuck with them...lol.

You weren't trolling, we both know it. You are actually this stupid.

End.

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

You weren't trolling, we both know it. You are actually this stupid.

End.

Dude, don't be mad. You got trolled and you know it. It happens. Sorry I wasted so much of your time.

[Extunarian]

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[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

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Are you hatin cause you got trolled too? LAMO. Lighten up dude. I have to admit, it was hard keeping my grammar and spelling correct when laughing so hard when I typed. My friend was here with me the whole time smoking as I responded each time. That is the funniest part about the whole thing...hahaha.

[M.Bison]

That is the funniest part about the whole thing...hahaha.

The funniest thing about this whole thing is that you are even attempting to save face.
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[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

The funniest thing about this whole thing is that you are even attempting to save face.
http://www.playdota.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=964&pictureid=17471

No the funny thing is you got TROLLED. I know someone who thinks he is so superior intellectually has a hard time admitting that, but it will be ok...lol. Dude, so many people wrote in here that you were getting trolled. That should have been a flashing light for a genius like you. :) But if you want, I will keep trolling you. It seems as though you enjoy it. Why else would you keep coming back fo mo'?

[Loke]

I never got trolling. So, in a thread which someone claims to be trolling there are two possibilities:

a) the person who claims they were trolling wasn't, and is really just ignorant
b) the person who claims they were trolling was, and was simply acting ignorant to incite a response.

The commonality between option "a" and option "b" is ignorance. So that raises the question: what is worse, actually being ignorant or choosing to act ignorant?

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

I never got trolling. So, in a thread which someone claims to be trolling there are two possibilities:

a) the person who claims they were trolling wasn't, and is really just ignorant
b) the person who claims they were trolling was, and was simply acting ignorant to incite a response.

The commonality between option "a" and option "b" is ignorance. So that raises the question: what is worse, actually being ignorant or choosing to act ignorant?

Actually being ignorant.

[Japan]

Needle Up Bro!

[Nakara]

I don't think any of you understand what a troll is. A troll is someone who posts something inflammatory then doesn't respond at all. Not someone who responds every other post.

Boggwin is what we call a moron, but certainly not a troll, seeing as he spent more time in this thread than anyone else.

[purist]

So, Boggin is actually just a retard? I was like "I got trolled, son." until this last page. Rule #1 of internet trolling is to never reveal that you're a troll. Going "LOL U GOT TROLLED" defeats the whole purpose.

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

So, Boggin is actually just a retard? I was like "I got trolled, son." until this last page. Rule #1 of internet trolling is to never reveal that you're a troll. Going "LOL U GOT TROLLED" defeats the whole purpose.

I would normally agree, but it was getting painful seeing these people keep replying to my post. It was like watching a little bird that kept flying into a window pane. Eventually you need to tell the poor thing that there is a window there or it will just keep doing it...haha.

[Ihealyou]

IZ U TROLLIN?

BITCH I MIGHT BE

[purist]

I would normally agree, but it was getting painful seeing these people keep replying to my post. It was like watching a little bird that kept flying into a window pane. Eventually you need to tell the poor thing that there is a window there or it will just keep doing it...haha.

That's the whole point.

[xshayla701]

IZ U TROLLIN?

BITCH I MIGHT BE

ily

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

That's the whole point.

I realize that, but I was getting bored. I couldn't keep coming up with new shit, my brain was hurting, and I needed a drink. Next time I will keep it going a little longer. :cool:

[quido]

How does one "troll" another?

[Japan]

IZ U TROLLIN?

BITCH I MIGHT BE

girl, we geek'd up down in R&F

[xshayla701]

girl, we geek'd up down in R&F

sometimes i hate you and sometimes i love you
for this i love you

[Nakara]

I realize that, but I was getting bored. I couldn't keep coming up with new shit, my brain was hurting, and I needed a drink. Next time I will keep it going a little longer. :cool:

I don't think you 'get' trolling

[nalkin]

Whatever boggwin was doing I think we can agree that he lost.

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

Whatever boggwin was doing I think we can agree that he lost.

I didn't realize there was a winner and loser. Had I won, what would have been the prize? :D

[Trademaster]

I didn't realize there was a winner and loser. Had I won, what would have been the prize? :D

There's a few special Olympics .gifs I think would fit as a response nicely.