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iruinedyourday
11-01-2015, 01:00 AM
OK so everytime someone says, hey try red... you make fun of our server size...

yet, THIS is what you think is better??

http://i.imgur.com/ztstBZO.png

Vs the Chill life on red...

http://i.imgur.com/VsbtXCn.png

From now on, server size is NOT something anyone from blue should be bragging about. If you only knew how much better the CONTENT was in classic EQ opposed a gaggle of asbergery nerds clamoring for pixels...

Remind me... exactly what does that pile of garbage provide that an open world full of content, on top of an added features of pvp provide? I cant think of anything positive.

holy crap.

YIKES

arsenalpow
11-01-2015, 01:06 AM
why aren't those people fighting on red??

Colgate
11-01-2015, 01:07 AM
why aren't those people fighting on red??

same guild

the other guild got pvp'd out of the zone

duh

Oleris
11-01-2015, 01:30 AM
no idea how hard it was to read the chat when you had 500 people spamming Hail.

iruinedyourday
11-01-2015, 01:33 AM
no idea how hard it was to read the chat when you had 500 people spamming Hail.

sound "immersive" hehe

Stormfists
11-01-2015, 06:44 AM
OK so everytime someone says, hey try red... you make fun of our server size...

yet, THIS is what you think is better??

YIKES

Yes...

If I wanted to bump into 1 person every 2 hours id play PEQ.

Teako
11-01-2015, 08:17 AM
In this picture:

The entire player contents of the red server.

LostCause
11-01-2015, 09:25 AM
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/alphaspartan/MARTY_zpsza99gy1a.gif

Mackie
11-01-2015, 10:30 AM
ITT we learn Iruinedyourday has Agoraphobia.

GG.

Suddz
11-01-2015, 10:33 AM
this is what 10% of the server population looks like on each server

Faywind
11-01-2015, 11:33 AM
OK so everytime someone says, hey try red... you make fun of our server size...

yet, THIS is what you think is better??

http://i.imgur.com/ztstBZO.png

Vs the Chill life on red...

http://i.imgur.com/VsbtXCn.png

From now on, server size is NOT something anyone from blue should be bragging about. If you only knew how much better the CONTENT was in classic EQ opposed a gaggle of asbergery nerds clamoring for pixels...

Remind me... exactly what does that pile of garbage provide that an open world full of content, on top of an added features of pvp provide? I cant think of anything positive.

holy crap.

YIKES

Enjoy single player EQ....Yikes.

Monty405
11-01-2015, 12:22 PM
On the other hand red 99 doesn't have BDA

Jahdu
11-01-2015, 01:09 PM
a gaggle of asbergery nerds clamoring for pixels...


Not nice to talk about your Empire guild mates like that :D

myriverse
11-01-2015, 01:32 PM
Vs the Chill life on red...
Just calling it "chill life" sounds awful.:eek:

Jfertal
11-01-2015, 02:11 PM
OK so everytime someone says, hey try red... you make fun of our server size...

yet, THIS is what you think is better??

http://i.imgur.com/ztstBZO.png

Vs the Chill life on red...

http://i.imgur.com/VsbtXCn.png

From now on, server size is NOT something anyone from blue should be bragging about. If you only knew how much better the CONTENT was in classic EQ opposed a gaggle of asbergery nerds clamoring for pixels...

Remind me... exactly what does that pile of garbage provide that an open world full of content, on top of an added features of pvp provide? I cant think of anything positive.

holy crap.

YIKES

Red is probably the most pathetic server ever promoted.
But fuck i hate most blue representatives, i take that back blue is prettypathetic, just look at the negotiation unbrella for instance.

Eq terrible pvp game, even WoW was bad in comparison to games like asherons call.

iruinedyourday
11-01-2015, 02:29 PM
ITT a buch of blues are mad as fuuuk

Champion_Standing
11-01-2015, 02:34 PM
Both look like a pretty lame way to spend Halloween.

iruinedyourday
11-01-2015, 02:45 PM
Both look like a pretty lame way to spend Halloween.

not if youre hoping to maybe get some sweet loot like a guise of the dece... oh wait. :D

jcr4990
11-01-2015, 05:31 PM
Single player EQ is fun guys. Everyone should reroll Red and try it out.

http://replygif.net/i/926.gif

Pringles
11-01-2015, 05:36 PM
Single player EQ is fun guys. Everyone should reroll Red and try it out.

beyondinfin
11-01-2015, 05:46 PM
I feel like, at this point, both server should just be turn off for the good of all mankind.

iruinedyourday
11-01-2015, 05:48 PM
uh.. I am sorry but this is a 5 star thread. Whoever rated it 1 should be ashamed.

captnamazing
11-01-2015, 10:51 PM
The best thing to do is not play this game

Kowalski
11-02-2015, 03:23 AM
If it's better to be on a server with fewer people then why keep recruiting?

Llodd
11-02-2015, 05:30 AM
Because deep down all the red players want the shitfest that is blue.

Swish
11-02-2015, 08:18 AM
If it's better to be on a server with fewer people then why keep recruiting?

It would be great if there were 500-600 on red. Something to aim for. If you want the recruitment to go away, join in :)

Kyff
11-02-2015, 08:46 AM
I think the biggest difference between the two servers is not the number of players but the ruleset.

If you are into pvp, numbers won't hold you on blue.
If you abhor pvp, no amount of chill on red will make up for it.

I'm happy that you seem to enjoy your game.

Swish
11-02-2015, 08:56 AM
I disagree.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq_q-hioGkU

Swish
11-02-2015, 08:58 AM
^ how often do you find an untwinked group like that on blue? That's another reason to play red, it's in the spirit of new starts and a fresher server not riddled with mudflation and camp lawyers.

Jahdu
11-02-2015, 09:09 AM
PvP should be the biggest selling point of Red... it should be the reason for ppl to try red.
Instead the lure is easy xp and easy loot... the pvp is just an inconvenience.

Monty405
11-02-2015, 09:15 AM
Lower the blue population. Play on a fresh un-twinked server.

Consider Green 99 today!

Swish
11-02-2015, 09:17 AM
PvP should be the biggest selling point of Red... it should be the reason for ppl to try red.
Instead the lure is easy xp and easy loot... the pvp is just an inconvenience.

"Man I hate that easy XP. Oh well, I'm off to Chardok to pay plat and level my alt to the high 50s."

Jahdu
11-02-2015, 09:25 AM
"Man I hate that easy XP. Oh well, I'm off to Chardok to pay plat and level my alt to the high 50s."

:confused:

Monty405
11-02-2015, 09:43 AM
I wish people would move in to Chardok with legit groups.

C'mon people. Lets eliminate this Chardok proxy money racketing scourge. GM's will support your camp claim over a single AoE group trying to claim the whole zone.

Rization
11-02-2015, 10:26 AM
Twink me on red and I'll make the switch!

Heebo
11-02-2015, 11:26 AM
So glad I made the switch. It's crazy - on red you can log in and PLAY THE GAME instead of sitting around tracking or waiting to race for FTE.

Rogean's ruleset broke blue and hand out after hand out have created a culture of entitled, whiny bitches.

If you want to sit around until you're told it's OK to camp a mob, please stay on blue. If you want to ascend above the endless petition quest bullshit, give red a try. You might just be surprised when EQ starts to feel like a game again.

maskedmelon
11-02-2015, 12:22 PM
Oh come now, the population on Red isn't nearly as awful as some peeps are suggesting. If you gave it a try you would know that though ^^ Sure, you can't sprint around CB or make your way to CE or around CoM camps un-invis without aggro'ing mobs, but I don't see that as a bad thing ^^

Someone suggested that the primary draw for Red should be pvp and as a pvp server, I agree. However, the Red-specific restrictions along with the pvp make for an infinitely more classic environment and many other reasons to roll Red ^^

Sadly, it is not for everyone though =/ If you tend to get upset about confrontation or regularly identify as a victim, then Red is not for you. If you are looking for something more classic and approach pvp with an open mind, willingness to learn and most importantly and understanding that you are on a Pvp server with players who are there for that feature and that those players are real people too, then you are sure to make Red your new home ^^

The only reason I promote Red is because I've had more fun in the past 3 months on Red than in the past 5 years on Blue (even though I had a lot of fun on Blue). And, I never would have thought that would be the case. I came to P1999 for Classic EQ and I found it on Red.

Give it a go!

Swish
11-02-2015, 12:55 PM
Oh come now, the population on Red isn't nearly as awful as some peeps are suggesting. If you gave it a try you would know that though ^^ Sure, you can't sprint around CB or make your way to CE or around CoM camps un-invis without aggro'ing mobs, but I don't see that as a bad thing ^^

Someone suggested that the primary draw for Red should be pvp and as a pvp server, I agree. However, the Red-specific restrictions along with the pvp make for an infinitely more classic environment and many other reasons to roll Red ^^

Sadly, it is not for everyone though =/ If you tend to get upset about confrontation or regularly identify as a victim, then Red is not for you. If you are looking for something more classic and approach pvp with an open mind, willingness to learn and most importantly and understanding that you are on a Pvp server with players who are there for that feature and that those players are real people too, then you are sure to make Red your new home ^^

The only reason I promote Red is because I've had more fun in the past 3 months on Red than in the past 5 years on Blue (even though I had a lot of fun on Blue). And, I never would have thought that would be the case. I came to P1999 for Classic EQ and I found it on Red.

Give it a go!

+1 ... and not all pvp is 100% "lol fgt I'm gonna camp you til you LNS", a lot of the time it's about saying "good fight" and having a laugh about what happened with the other guy (yes I know I forgot to cover my resists here :D)

http://i.imgur.com/L1Qcvwh.png

Jahdu
11-02-2015, 01:16 PM
Oh come now, the population on Red isn't nearly as awful as some peeps are suggesting. If you gave it a try you would know that though ^^ Sure, you can't sprint around CB or make your way to CE or around CoM camps un-invis without aggro'ing mobs, but I don't see that as a bad thing ^^

Someone suggested that the primary draw for Red should be pvp and as a pvp server, I agree. However, the Red-specific restrictions along with the pvp make for an infinitely more classic environment and many other reasons to roll Red ^^

Sadly, it is not for everyone though =/ If you tend to get upset about confrontation or regularly identify as a victim, then Red is not for you. If you are looking for something more classic and approach pvp with an open mind, willingness to learn and most importantly and understanding that you are on a Pvp server with players who are there for that feature and that those players are real people too, then you are sure to make Red your new home ^^

Oh I fully intend to make a toon on red because I like to pvp. However all I've ever seen red promoted for by some people is the easy xp and easy pixels and not promoted
for what the server was intended for :)
The only reason I promote Red is because I've had more fun in the past 3 months on Red than in the past 5 years on Blue (even though I had a lot of fun on Blue). And, I never would have thought that would be the case. I came to P1999 for Classic EQ and I found it on Red.

Give it a go!

Jahdu
11-02-2015, 01:19 PM
Doh, posting fail...

"Oh I fully intend to make a toon on red because I like to pvp. However all I've ever seen red promoted for by some people is the easy xp and easy pixels and not promoted
for what the server was intended for"

That's what I meant to post.

Swish
11-02-2015, 01:23 PM
Doh, posting fail...

"Oh I fully intend to make a toon on red because I like to pvp. However all I've ever seen red promoted for by some people is the easy xp and easy pixels and not promoted
for what the server was intended for"

That's what I meant to post.

I don't think I ever used the word "easy" in any of my posts regarding red. Maybe I'm wrong.

1. The XP bonus encourages everyone to group and make friends (this is good).
2. If anyone knows about this "easy pixels" thing, please let me in on it. Everyone I know has been leveling up on hard times.

Monty405
11-02-2015, 01:26 PM
Biggest challenge for me on red was leveling faster than I could save for new spells.

Swish
11-02-2015, 01:28 PM
Biggest challenge for me on red was leveling faster than I could save for new spells.

yeah that's definitely a thing for int casters - choose the important ones.

Jahdu
11-02-2015, 01:56 PM
I don't think I ever used the word "easy" in any of my posts regarding red. Maybe I'm wrong.

1. The XP bonus encourages everyone to group and make friends (this is good).
2. If anyone knows about this "easy pixels" thing, please let me in on it. Everyone I know has been leveling up on hard times.

Really?? Maybe you should reread some of your "promote red" posts.
True, you don't use the word easy but you sure as hell imply it... and you hardly ever mention pvp.

Anyway doesn't really matter to me which server people play, just as long as their having fun :)

maskedmelon
11-02-2015, 01:56 PM
Doh, posting fail...

"Oh I fully intend to make a toon on red because I like to pvp. However all I've ever seen red promoted for by some people is the easy xp and easy pixels and not promoted
for what the server was intended for"

That's what I meant to post.

Right on, glad to hear it ^^ I think the reason you see more threads promoting it for things other than pvp is because it already has obvious appeal for those who enjoy it. There are plenty of other reasons too though of which many, if not most, players are unaware. I am not sure I have ever seen it sold as easy except by angry naysayers though ^^

iruinedyourday
11-02-2015, 02:20 PM
Yea on "easy" pixels.. its not really the case. Sure some end game content is kind of a bit easier, epics for example. becuse you arnt competing against so many folks. This should not be such an advantage come the triggerable spawns (tho I have no experiance with that type of EQ cus I am vanilla as f). A lot of other content is more difficult to get on Red.

Sure nearly every camp in seb is open to you to solo right now.. Its just a lot more difficult to pull off the camp becuse you have to learn how to hold a camp and not die from pvp instead of just pve. Takes a lot of practice and a whole different type of skills.

However the camps are open, and once you do learn those skills you can have great success!

Mainly red is just more fun, its less of a "this guy was a jerk to me - he stole my camp - this guild trained my group - this bard is monopolizing the zone" etc.

there IS pvp but the server doesnt revolve around it, id say 50% of the server does. The other 50% like the added danger, the added "open-ness" of something else to do with your sweet loots. The more classic feeling of grouping with 6 folks who are likely all fresh starters...

There is a lot that red offers that is purely classic fun.

If I had to say that blue offers something that red doesn't, besides the ability to afk whenever you want, its that blue has things like open PoG clears.. but honestly i could count the # of times I've seen stuff like that happen in 2.5 years on my hands... So, idk.

Also we want more people because we want to kill you :)

Crawdad
11-02-2015, 03:11 PM
OK so everytime someone says, hey try red... you make fun of our server size...

yet, THIS is what you think is better??

http://i.imgur.com/ztstBZO.png

Vs the Chill life on red...

http://i.imgur.com/VsbtXCn.png

From now on, server size is NOT something anyone from blue should be bragging about. If you only knew how much better the CONTENT was in classic EQ opposed a gaggle of asbergery nerds clamoring for pixels...

Remind me... exactly what does that pile of garbage provide that an open world full of content, on top of an added features of pvp provide? I cant think of anything positive.

holy crap.

YIKES

EQ PvP is god awful. That's really all that should have to be said.

iruinedyourday
11-02-2015, 03:44 PM
One mans god awful is another mans totally awesome.

http://31.media.tumblr.com/1ffa17ed13c9dc91372fa874fc0ac45d/tumblr_nte9uhFNLh1upp723o3_500.gif

Like this gif for example, i dont know what the fuck it is but its awesome.

86753o9
11-02-2015, 03:47 PM
If red got rid of the double xp and the global /ooc people would take it seriously. As it is now you're constantly spammed with juvenile jackassery and you have to use /shout as an alternative to /ooc. Also this trolls and iksar grouping with elves shit is stupid on a pvp server.

iruinedyourday
11-02-2015, 03:48 PM
If red got rid of the double xp and the global /ooc people would take it seriously. As it is now you're constantly spammed with juvenile jackassery and you have to use /shout as an alternative to /ooc. Also this trolls and iksar grouping with elves shit is stupid on a pvp server.

hehe this is u blues:

http://sev.h-cdn.co/assets/15/33/1439398827-upset-angry-arms-crossed-despicable-me.gif

Swish
11-02-2015, 03:57 PM
If red got rid of the double xp and the global /ooc people would take it seriously. As it is now you're constantly spammed with juvenile jackassery and you have to use /shout as an alternative to /ooc. Also this trolls and iksar grouping with elves shit is stupid on a pvp server.

Still amazed how many people are incapable of using chat filters. If it bothers you filter it to a closed window.

"omg no its just stupid and if i do that i wont have anything to whine about"

Rastignac
11-02-2015, 04:08 PM
I disagree.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq_q-hioGkU

Swish - who is Pallas Athene? Sounds like he's quoting my favorite character from Friel's Translations.

Crawdad
11-02-2015, 04:27 PM
One mans god awful is another mans totally awesome.

http://31.media.tumblr.com/1ffa17ed13c9dc91372fa874fc0ac45d/tumblr_nte9uhFNLh1upp723o3_500.gif

Like this gif for example, i dont know what the fuck it is but its awesome.

ItsAnatomically Incorrect Dinosaurs. (http://gamejolt.com/games/anatomically-incorrect-dinosaurs-just-how-far-will-evolution-go/87108)

EQ PvP is objectively bad. Good for you if you like it, but its always had a tiny demographic. I'd love to see what numbers you guys would roll with if they took the Exp bonus away.

86753o9
11-02-2015, 04:27 PM
I'm just pointing out the main reasons why people on blue consider red to be p99's version of Tiajuana. I'm not at all amazed that players don't put up with things that they don't have to.

86753o9
11-02-2015, 04:33 PM
ItsAnatomically Incorrect Dinosaurs. (http://gamejolt.com/games/anatomically-incorrect-dinosaurs-just-how-far-will-evolution-go/87108)

EQ PvP is objectively bad. Good for you if you like it, but its always had a tiny demographic. I'd love to see what numbers you guys would roll with if they took the Exp bonus away.

Well the thing about the double exp is that I don't think it really encourages people to play on red, I think what it really encourages is the notion that red isn't a serious server.

maskedmelon
11-02-2015, 04:53 PM
Well the thing about the double exp is that I don't think it really encourages people to play on red,

Your right about that ^^ That's not its purpose though. It is there to encourage grouping and expedite new players and alts to the action since the purpose of the server is pvp and L60 offers as much even footing as one can get ^^

I held the same snarky view regarding the bonus though, thinking slow xp embodied the essence of Classic gameplay. After giving Red a to though I realized gameplay was far more important to me than XP per kill and actually kind of appreciated the ability to get more done with less ^^

iruinedyourday
11-02-2015, 05:22 PM
I honestly think the xp bonus really balances out "falure" though, which is great for a server where your xping can come to a screetching halt when 1 guy busts in kicking your group mates in the face while you're tryign to level.

A lot of people dont have the will to keep at it when this game is crushingly cruel to you, I mean deep down its why we all love classic eq, but deep down we also get frustrated when we're trying to just play our favorite game while our So's sleep or watch sex in the city. Red can be far more crushingly difficult than blue can be.

I love classic EQ and everything that the game has to offer, but as someone who has spent a lot of time playing this game I think the xp rate on red99 is what eq should have been. Its by no means exploitive (it still takes a day of grinding to get through a level come 46+) and its equally less painful than 46+ is in classic/blue.

86753o9
11-02-2015, 05:29 PM
It's not a snarky view, you were correct. The exp bonus is just another difference from classic eq that makes red more different from classic eq, not less different.

But none if this matters, red is different than blue. People who like red like it because it's different from blue. People who don't like red don't like it because it's different from blue. The reality is, if red want's more players to come over from blue then red needs to change to be more like blue. And that's not going to happen because red players don't want red to be more like blue. So instead they tell blue players something ridiculous that basically amounts to "you should learn to like things that you don't like". Most players on blue have toons on red, so it's not a matter of blue players not knowing what they are missing.

Bruno
11-02-2015, 05:37 PM
It's not a snarky view, you were correct. The exp bonus is just another difference from classic eq that makes red more different from classic eq, not less different.

But none if this matters, red is different than blue. People who like red like it because it's different from blue. People who don't like red don't like it because it's different from blue. The reality is, if red want's more players to come over from blue then red needs to change to be more like blue. And that's not going to happen because red players don't want red to be more like blue. So instead they tell blue players something ridiculous that basically amounts to "you should learn to like things that you don't like". Most players on blue have toons on red, so it's not a matter of blue players not knowing what they are missing.

Some of us came from rallos zek and vz/tz (3 wipes?), long before these dudes claiming to be pvp champions. Some of us know better and don't want to deal with everything red has to offer.

maerilith
11-02-2015, 05:37 PM
I made a ranger on red and got to 27 in 16 hrs and got free loots. And had NO PVP AT ALL THE ENTIRE TIME.

People on blue just have aspergers, come to red, and get obliterated because they have aspergers.

iruinedyourday
11-02-2015, 05:40 PM
But none if this matters, red is different than blue. People who like red like it because it's different from blue.


and lets not mix up singnals the entire point of OP was to point out that, making fun of red numbers is a stupid reason to say blue is 'better' because whats going on on blue, is dumb.. and by all accounts players agree, by posting rants and flames about eachother steeling camps monopolising zones, arguing over raid mob rights.

So in the reguard of playerbase, the red #'s are actually better.

So no more, red is a dead server bs plz Its not just alive, its healthy as fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu uuuuuk

Blue:

http://cdn.playbuzz.com/cdn/134f71b0-b392-4ece-8253-9b270cd098e4/08e6415f-da49-4989-a89f-e4e8c106837e.jpg

Red:

http://www.mountainheartcares.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/skin-healthy-food.jpeg

Crawdad
11-02-2015, 05:47 PM
I made a ranger on red and got to 27 in 16 hrs
Boring.

and got free loots.
Grats on your welfare.

And had NO PVP AT ALL THE ENTIRE TIME.
No PvP on a PvP server.

People on blue just have aspergers, come to red, and get obliterated because they have aspergers.
From the above you seem to want levels with no effort, free gear, and no "level appropriate" PvP. Congratulations.

iruinedyourday
11-02-2015, 05:51 PM
Boring.


Grats on your welfare.


No PvP on a PvP server.


From the above you seem to want levels with no effort, free gear, and no "level appropriate" PvP. Congratulations.

hehe this is u rn:

http://sev.h-cdn.co/assets/15/33/1439398827-upset-angry-arms-crossed-despicable-me.gif

maskedmelon
11-02-2015, 06:00 PM
"you should learn to like things that you don't like".

This is a bit of a tangent, but that is actually a very sound piece of wisdom that often accompanies maturation ^^ Especially if your dislike is baseless and/or preventing you from enjoying other things.

On topic, you are right though, Red is not for everyone. I think we have all said that a number of times, but it is for some who just don't know it yet and those are the peeps I post for. In part out of gratitude to those who convinced me to consider Red and in part to share the awesomeness that I've found ^^

If it's not for you it's not for you. I am curious though, aside from the xp rate and pvp what other features make Red less classic to you? You seemed to suggest there were others.

Rastignac
11-02-2015, 06:03 PM
There are two kinds of Red lives

1) people who are dedicated to PvP, get good at it, and spend their time pursuing it.
2) (the majority) those who are essentially playing classic eq in which the threat of PvP is an occasional spice and an occasional headache.

pvp affects like 10 percent of my playtime in an active way, but all of my playtime in a passive way. Just makes you think twice about shit. It's fun.

iruinedyourday
11-02-2015, 06:05 PM
There are two kinds of Red lives

1) people who are dedicated to PvP, get good at it, and spend their time pursuing it.
2) (the majority) those who are essentially playing classic eq in which the threat of PvP is an occasional spice and an occasional headache.

pvp affects like 10 percent of my playtime in an active way, but all of my playtime in a passive way. Just makes you think twice about shit. It's fun.

http://reactiongif.org/wp-content/uploads/GIF/2014/08/GIF-Okay-OK-Agree-Agreeing-Yep-Aw-yeah-Yeah-Fuck-yeah-yes-John-Krasinski-Jim-Halpert-The-Office-GIF.gif

Rastignac
11-02-2015, 06:09 PM
which is to say , from what I see on these forums, a lot of blue posters seem to have a distorted image of Red. The overcrowding on Blue makes it seem like a no-brainer decision to me. Red 4ever. Unless you really like leveling slower.

iruinedyourday
11-02-2015, 06:11 PM
which is to say , from what I see on these forums, a lot of blue posters seem to have a distorted image of Red. The overcrowding on Blue makes it seem like a no-brainer decision to me. Red 4ever. Unless you really like leveling slower.

https://i0.wp.com/media.tumblr.com/3297e93097f33943cbf3e0ce7b1b3075/tumblr_inline_ngwlo2fx1g1qeto6u.gif

Lurikeen
11-02-2015, 06:42 PM
So what is the best Red Server class? Necro? Mage? Paladin? SK?

iruinedyourday
11-02-2015, 06:48 PM
So what is the best Red Server class? Necro? Mage? Paladin? SK?

For caster I think Druid is the best... for Melee Rogue.

Second bests are Wizard for caster, Monk for melee

Third place goes to Enchanter & Bard

Lurikeen
11-02-2015, 06:55 PM
For caster I think Druid is the best... for Melee Rogue.

Second bests are Wizard for caster, Monk for melee

Third place goes to Enchanter & Bard

Nuh, uh! You're a retarded douche bag who knows nothing! :D :p

Just had to throw that in since this is R&F.

I might have to check out Red. I have been wanting to play a Druid.

Heebo
11-02-2015, 06:55 PM
So what is the best Red Server class? Necro? Mage? Paladin? SK?

Same as blue server: play whatever you'll have the most fun with. They all have their pvp advantages and disadvantages. You're not gonna be a YT powerhouse as an Enchanter or Cleric but they're great to have on your side in a fight.

Unless all you want to do is get kills - then go Rogue or Wizard.

iruinedyourday
11-02-2015, 07:05 PM
Nuh, uh! You're a retarded douche bag who knows nothing! :D :p

Just had to throw that in since this is R&F.

I might have to check out Red. I have been wanting to play a Druid.

hehe Druids on Blue:

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr01/2013/8/1/11/anigif_enhanced-buzz-26452-1375370409-11.gif

Druids on Red:

http://media.giphy.com/media/1S6xghiGMc6Hu/giphy.gif

Monks on Blue:

http://iamkraze.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/jivehands.gif

Monks on Red:

http://www.chud.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/oldlady.gif

Join red today!

slappymancuso
11-03-2015, 09:08 AM
I had no idea this random rant thread would sell me on red, but it did. See you there!

Swish
11-03-2015, 09:32 AM
I had no idea this random rant thread would sell me on red, but it did. See you there!

http://imageupload.co.uk/images/2015/11/03/join20us.gif






















http://i.imgur.com/AHG2uMD.gif

Xaanka
11-03-2015, 09:38 AM
Yes...

If I wanted to bump into 1 person every 2 hours id play PEQ.

In this picture:

The entire player contents of the red server.

ITT we learn Iruinedyourday has Agoraphobia.

GG.

this is what 10% of the server population looks like on each server

Enjoy single player EQ....Yikes.

Just calling it "chill life" sounds awful.:eek:

Single player EQ is fun guys. Everyone should reroll Red and try it out.

http://replygif.net/i/926.gif

If it's better to be on a server with fewer people then why keep recruiting?

lollin at how these aspies who have never played red envision red. getting all stockholm syndrome over their pixel-lines.

good troll iruinedyourday 5/5

Eldini
11-03-2015, 09:42 AM
hehe Druids on Blue:

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr01/2013/8/1/11/anigif_enhanced-buzz-26452-1375370409-11.gif

Druids on Red:

http://media.giphy.com/media/1S6xghiGMc6Hu/giphy.gif

Monks on Blue:

http://iamkraze.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/jivehands.gif

Monks on Red:

http://www.chud.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/oldlady.gif

Join red today!

join today!
https://i.imgur.com/gb9B1j5.png

Swish
11-03-2015, 09:49 AM
join today!
https://i.imgur.com/gb9B1j5.png

Thank you for the graph dating back 3-4 years. Got anything current/relevant?

Eldini
11-03-2015, 09:51 AM
lmao struck a nerve swish?

Swish
11-03-2015, 09:53 AM
lmao struck a nerve swish?

Hardly.

Actually I'd like to see a graph of blue pop since Velious release if you can conjure one up <3

Xaanka
11-03-2015, 10:49 AM
join today!
https://i.imgur.com/gb9B1j5.png

thats actually a chart of the line you have to wait in for holgresh elder beads

Nirgon
11-03-2015, 11:04 AM
that graph doesn't show the 300 pop that was after the great cleansing

Redi
11-03-2015, 11:18 AM
no idea how hard it was to read the chat when you had 500 people spamming Hail.

Redi
11-03-2015, 11:20 AM
hehe Druids on Blue:

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr01/2013/8/1/11/anigif_enhanced-buzz-26452-1375370409-11.gif

Druids on Red:

http://media.giphy.com/media/1S6xghiGMc6Hu/giphy.gif

Monks on Blue:

http://iamkraze.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/jivehands.gif

Monks on Red:

http://www.chud.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/oldlady.gif

Join red today!

lol

Furniture
11-03-2015, 11:45 AM
OK so everytime someone says, hey try red... you make fun of our server size...

yet, THIS is what you think is better??

[

Hey idiot, make up your mind. If RED99's population size is so great to you guys, why do you keep begging people to come play with you? Your pissed off that blue players prefer a larger population yet your the one who is trying to increase the red population, which you already claim you think is better being small..

Red players on these forums are like the annoying ex girlfriends of P99. You constantly beg blue players to play with you and then act like you prefer a small population. If your so happy with reds population then why beg blue players to play with you?

Xaanka
11-03-2015, 11:54 AM
Hey idiot, make up your mind. If RED99's population size is so great to you guys, why do you keep begging people to come play with you? Your pissed off that blue players prefer a larger population yet your the one who is trying to increase the red population, which you already claim you think is better being small..

Red players on these forums are like the annoying ex girlfriends of P99. You constantly beg blue players to play with you and then act like you prefer a small population. If your so happy with reds population then why beg blue players to play with you?

because everquest is most fun with like 500 people on a box, not 300 or 3000
brain rot :(

maskedmelon
11-03-2015, 12:04 PM
Hey idiot, make up your mind. If RED99's population size is so great to you guys, why do you keep begging people to come play with you? Your pissed off that blue players prefer a larger population yet your the one who is trying to increase the red population, which you already claim you think is better being small..

Red players on these forums are like the annoying ex girlfriends of P99. You constantly beg blue players to play with you and then act like you prefer a small population. If your so happy with reds population then why beg blue players to play with you?

You are confused. We are a collection of individuals with varied aspirations. I promote Red because I know there are some peeps like me who won't believe the super that is Red unless they experience it and who won't experience it without a bit of prodding. You are probably not one of those individuals and that's ok. Not looking to recruit you ^^ You can stay on Blue ^^ ... if you are that opposed to fun/classic gameplay =p

Red's population is better though. That is the point of the thread. The beautiful thing is we can still accommodate an extra 100-200 peeps comfortably ^^

Furniture
11-03-2015, 12:07 PM
because everquest is most fun with like 500 people on a box, not 300 or 3000
brain rot :(

its been years and you losers still dont realize that begging people to play with you like little bitches isnt going to work.

Heres some tips for you guys since your all too stupid to understand anything (except houndstooth):

1) Begging makes you look needy
2) Nobody likes people who are needy
3) Because you all act like needy bitches, your population will never grow

Keep on doing what your doing though, looks like you guys are really doing a good job getting people to play with you lol

maskedmelon
11-03-2015, 12:11 PM
its been years and you losers still dont realize that begging people to play with you like little bitches isnt going to work.

Heres some tips for you guys since your all too stupid to understand anything (except houndstooth):

1) Begging makes you look needy
2) Nobody likes people who are needy
3) Because you all act like needy bitches, your population will never grow

Keep on doing what your doing though, looks like you guys are really doing a good job getting people to play with you lol

I applaud your RnF. Has a real CaptainAmazing feel to it. Solid B- ^^

Xaanka
11-03-2015, 12:15 PM
its been years and you losers still dont realize that begging people to play with you like little bitches isnt going to work.

Heres some tips for you guys since your all too stupid to understand anything (except houndstooth):

1) Begging makes you look needy
2) Nobody likes people who are needy
3) Because you all act like needy bitches, your population will never grow

Keep on doing what your doing though, looks like you guys are really doing a good job getting people to play with you lol

i never asked anyone to come to red. red doesn't want you :o

Furniture
11-03-2015, 12:16 PM
You are confused. We are a collection of individuals with varied aspirations. I promote Red because I know there are some peeps like me who won't believe the super that is Red unless they experience it and who won't experience it without a bit of prodding. You are probably not one of those individuals and that's ok. Not looking to recruit you ^^ You can stay on Blue ^^ ... if you are that opposed to fun/classic gameplay =p

Red's population is better though. That is the point of the thread. The beautiful thing is we can still accommodate an extra 100-200 peeps comfortably ^^

I think your confused. After several years, your population is still so low that your STILL begging people from the blue server to play. I don't know how you specifically promote red, but if is anything like the spam/annoyance from people like Swish, you can bet your ass that you too have prevented plenty of players from joining your server. Telling people who dont want to play with you that we're opposed to "fun/classic gameplay" does nothing but make sure more people arent going to play with you.

Red server ruleset is probably the shittiest pvp ruleset possible. Out of range healers, pnp, loot and scoot, low lvl twinks camping new players, etc. sound fucking terrible to mostly everyone.

maskedmelon
11-03-2015, 12:25 PM
Telling people who dont want to play with you that we're opposed to "fun/classic gameplay" does nothing but make sure more people arent going to play with you.

Red server ruleset is probably the shittiest pvp ruleset possible. Out of range healers, pnp, loot and scoot, low lvl twinks camping new players, etc. sound fucking terrible to mostly everyone.

That comment was for you and your disgruntled ass alone. It is obvious you wouldn't know what fun even if it landed naked in your lap =P

As for Red, I've only been promoting it about 3 months. I was on Blue for about 5 years prior to that. Red is better ^^

Xaanka
11-03-2015, 12:25 PM
Red server ruleset is probably the shittiest pvp ruleset possible. Out of range healers, pnp, loot and scoot, low lvl twinks camping new players, etc. sound fucking terrible to mostly everyone.

this is what dumb babies who have never actually played on red actually think :eek::eek::eek::eek:

Troxx
11-03-2015, 12:25 PM
I think your confused. After several years, your population is still so low that your STILL begging people from the blue server to play. I don't know how you specifically promote red, but if is anything like the spam/annoyance from people like Swish, you can bet your ass that you too have prevented plenty of players from joining your server.

^^^

Malbolshia
11-03-2015, 12:28 PM
this is what dumb babies who have never actually played on red actually think :eek::eek::eek::eek:

As a blue player, I can attest that everything he listed is the exact reason why I wont try Red.

Swish
11-03-2015, 12:42 PM
I think your confused. After several years, your population is still so low that your STILL begging people from the blue server to play. I don't know how you specifically promote red, but if is anything like the spam/annoyance from people like Swish, you can bet your ass that you too have prevented plenty of players from joining your server. Telling people who dont want to play with you that we're opposed to "fun/classic gameplay" does nothing but make sure more people arent going to play with you.

Red server ruleset is probably the shittiest pvp ruleset possible. Out of range healers, pnp, loot and scoot, low lvl twinks camping new players, etc. sound fucking terrible to mostly everyone.

If I could animate Furniture's mood it'd be of a cartoon character madder than Donald Duck with steam coming out of his ears to the sound of a factory "shift is over" whistle.

If someone can do a rendition of that in MS paint it would be great.

What's wrong with a play nice policy and LNS? Never seen anyone camping players on orc hill or anywhere of that nature. In fact I think i've only been camped once in my red career lol.

maskedmelon
11-03-2015, 12:59 PM
As a blue player, I can attest that everything he listed is the exact reason why I wont try Red.

Yep, it's the same rubbish that kept me from trying Red until a few months ago. I am there now though and have no plans of leaving ^^

Rastingac summarized it pretty well a few pages back:

There are two kinds of Red lives

1) people who are dedicated to PvP, get good at it, and spend their time pursuing it.
2) (the majority) those who are essentially playing classic eq in which the threat of PvP is an occasional spice and an occasional headache.

pvp affects like 10 percent of my playtime in an active way, but all of my playtime in a passive way. Just makes you think twice about shit. It's fun.

iruinedyourday
11-03-2015, 01:14 PM
Hey idiot, make up your mind. If RED99's population size is so great to you guys, why do you keep begging people to come play with you? Your pissed off that blue players prefer a larger population yet your the one who is trying to increase the red population, which you already claim you think is better being small..

Red players on these forums are like the annoying ex girlfriends of P99. You constantly beg blue players to play with you and then act like you prefer a small population. If your so happy with reds population then why beg blue players to play with you?

I can tell why furniture has had so many exgirlfriends.

Champion_Standing
11-03-2015, 01:23 PM
Thread is rly going places now, 5 star vote stands

Monty405
11-03-2015, 01:26 PM
Red vs Blue drama is always a great read.

iruinedyourday
11-03-2015, 02:28 PM
Furniture on Blue: 'PORTING FOR DONATIONS - tox BB gfay - no Velious ports yet PST'
Furniture on Red: 'LNS Nektulos LNSX NEKTULOSE PLZ'

Nirgon
11-03-2015, 03:08 PM
Blue has a massive afk population

Do not be fooled

Monty405
11-03-2015, 03:33 PM
Is this the line to post on a blue 99 thread? Can I be added to the list?

OfftuneRZ
11-03-2015, 03:42 PM
This is the line leading to the line to post in the blue forums. Please log in game so you can stand around with 20 other grown men attempting to get the first hit on the mob and then post about your pixel dominance against artificial intelligence from 1999. Why not play against another person which takes actual skill?

Rastignac
11-03-2015, 04:16 PM
I think peeps need to be honest that a huge part of the reason you don't want to switch is that you don't want to start at the bottom. Which is a sensible feeling. But don't let that lead to 20 pounds of cognitive bias in a 5 pound bag.

Sheeit I debated for a long time whether to abandon my blue mage. Haven't logged him once since switching tho.

iruinedyourday
11-03-2015, 04:21 PM
I think peeps need to be honest that a huge part of the reason you don't want to switch is that you don't want to start at the bottom. Which is a sensible feeling. But don't let that lead to 20 pounds of cognitive bias in a 5 pound bag.

Sheeit I debated for a long time whether to abandon my blue mage. Haven't logged him once since switching tho.

yep, the longer the wait the more you'll regret it when you inevitably make the switch.

or when you try green99 and find out its teams and you get stomped out of every legacy camp cus you didnt practice in the years leading up to it on red.

make the [smart] move. Try red today!

andvarion
11-03-2015, 04:34 PM
I loved "world pvp" in WoW. Not duels or arenas or battlegrounds, but just encountering players out and about in the world and fighting with them, or not fighting with them, or wondering if they were going to fight with me or not fight with me. Like someone said, that added layer of "am I safe?" when 90% of the time you were.

That being said, how does EQ pvp compare? I know literally nothing about it, but I don't see how any melee character could compare to a caster in this game. I'm sure there are ways, but I just don't know them. Also what are the rules? What does loot and scoot mean? What keeps a group member from randomly turning on the rest of their group? Are there level restrictions? Is it a free for all or is there some sort of faction/structure? Do you lose XP when you die in pvp? Or items or anything?

I'll try red. It's free. Why not? But I sure could use some more information on what exactly is going on in EQ pvp.

Faywind
11-03-2015, 04:48 PM
Is this the line to post on a blue 99 thread? Can I be added to the list?

That made no sense, you literally just posted... /facepalm

On topic though, I think Red just isn't great for the casual gamer like the majority of people who play on P1999. If I could commit a lot of time to EQ then maybe it would be worth it. I like blue because it's chill and I can AFK when I want and not have to always worry. That's pretty much it to be honest.

Rastignac
11-03-2015, 04:51 PM
That made no sense, you literally just posted... /facepalm

On topic though, I think Red just isn't great for the casual gamer like the majority of people who play on P1999. If I could commit a lot of time to EQ then maybe it would be worth it. I like blue because it's chill and I can AFK when I want and not have to always worry. That's pretty much it to be honest.

Really it's the exact opposite. You level way faster on Red, despite PvP setbacks. There's less competition for high-end experiences once you get to the higher levels. If you have limited weekly hours yet want to do what you didn't get to do back in the day (which is my situation) Red is way better.

iruinedyourday
11-03-2015, 04:52 PM
That made no sense, you literally just posted... /facepalm

On topic though, I think Red just isn't great for the casual gamer like the majority of people who play on P1999. If I could commit a lot of time to EQ then maybe it would be worth it. I like blue because it's chill and I can AFK when I want and not have to always worry. That's pretty much it to be honest.


you're right passing on untwinked new players LFG & requiring people to wait in line for the opportunity to camp a mob for 8 hours is totally casual.

you know compared to loging in and xping with people in rawhide and runinnig around loling and having fun not chasing any pixels at all.

http://media2.giphy.com/media/Fml0fgAxVx1eM/giphy.gif

Rastignac
11-03-2015, 04:53 PM
I loved "world pvp" in WoW. Not duels or arenas or battlegrounds, but just encountering players out and about in the world and fighting with them, or not fighting with them, or wondering if they were going to fight with me or not fight with me. Like someone said, that added layer of "am I safe?" when 90% of the time you were.

That being said, how does EQ pvp compare? I know literally nothing about it, but I don't see how any melee character could compare to a caster in this game. I'm sure there are ways, but I just don't know them. Also what are the rules? What does loot and scoot mean? What keeps a group member from randomly turning on the rest of their group? Are there level restrictions? Is it a free for all or is there some sort of faction/structure? Do you lose XP when you die in pvp? Or items or anything?

I'll try red. It's free. Why not? But I sure could use some more information on what exactly is going on in EQ pvp.


This deserves a good answer, because there are good answers to all of these questions. Unfortunately I'm crunched at work right now.

Hitachi
11-03-2015, 05:27 PM
red has been fun so far

iruinedyourday
11-03-2015, 05:52 PM
This deserves a good answer, because there are good answers to all of these questions. Unfortunately I'm crunched at work right now.

That being said, how does EQ pvp compare? I know literally nothing about it.

The pvp has a lot of varriations to it. It can be a gank fest, where you see a name in the zone you're xping in and you have htat feeling 'oh shit im going to see some pvp becuse I know im in range' and then BAM some wizard just starts nuking you.

It can be group v group where your group fights another group of people, or group v 1 like you have a small group of pals porting around looking for people in range to engange. or 1 prerson doing that etc.

it can be mass pvp, where there is all kinds of shit going crazy all over the place and you just look for people to hit or follow assist calls from your leaders.


I don't see how any melee character could compare to a caster in this game.

melee's actually do quite well against casters if they are clever. there are lots of "tricks" that you can use as you get more experienced to dodge spells.

A melee has a big advantage indoors vs out doors. in mass pvp a melee usually can get more kills too becuse you dont have to worry about mana and you can duck in and out of the fight.

Also what are the rules? What does loot and scoot mean?? Are there level restrictions? Is it a free for all or is there some sort of faction/structure?

rules are 5 level range (level 56 can hit a 60 but level 55 cannot) no factions, just your pals vs your "less" pals or strangers. Loot and scoot is designed so if a player doesnt want to pvp and wants to just get his corpse they can call LNS and they must be allowed to loot thier corpse, and must 'scoot' from the zone and not return for like 1hr.. idk ive never called it.. ok i didt once like my first week but i felt dirty afterwords.

What keeps a group member from randomly turning on the rest of their group?

Just honor and respect i guess... if you are being a jack off and are OOR to me and I can port you can bet im going to cast port, kick everyone from the group and drop you off in tox if i can :)

Do you lose XP when you die in pvp? Or items or anything?

nope! just self respect.

Rastignac
11-03-2015, 05:56 PM
you can lose your plat - leading many to keep larger sums in Elf Leaf, rubies, etc. Just a small example of the type of cool little things that give red spice.

iruinedyourday
11-03-2015, 05:57 PM
oh yea hehe

Seltius
11-03-2015, 06:01 PM
Thank you Iruinedyourday that was a very good post about Red99 pvp. I would like to add somethings that not everyone will know.
*If you die on Red yes they can coin you but you do not lose xp unless it is a pve death. *The thing to remember is if able you should bind near where your going to be. Not right there at it but near a zoneline or out of the way place.
*Do not carry coins if possible. Convert any coins to gems asap. Only coin can be looted not items.
*Have fun! You are going to get pvpd you may win or you may lose but try to enjoy it. *Try to learn from the experience.

Seltius
11-03-2015, 06:04 PM
Thank you Rastignac.

I will tell you a secret.

You can never go wrong with Peridots.

Also 46-47 Rubies=a Bag of the Tinkerer


Gems lose very little in conversion. Though they do lose some its nowhere near what you would lose if coined

iruinedyourday
11-03-2015, 06:32 PM
Red was a lot better the before the assholes in both Empire and TMO came in and destroyed the server by buying red Plat with blue, creating an influx of bullshit twinked chars that cut a swathe through those that started fresh.

Now I'm just waiting for discord and a team PvP server. Both blue and red are pretty garbage now.

http://i.imgur.com/juKIKgO.gif

Champion_Standing
11-03-2015, 06:51 PM
Red was a lot better the before the assholes in both Empire and TMO came in and destroyed the server by buying red Plat with blue, creating an influx of bullshit twinked chars that cut a swathe through those that started fresh.

Now I'm just waiting for discord and a team PvP server. Both blue and red are pretty garbage now.

https://media.giphy.com/media/xf20D8HzvTQzu/giphy.gif

Xaanka
11-03-2015, 07:12 PM
Red was a lot better the before the assholes in both Empire and TMO came in and destroyed the server by buying red Plat with blue, creating an influx of bullshit twinked chars that cut a swathe through those that started fresh.

Now I'm just waiting for discord and a team PvP server. Both blue and red are pretty garbage now.

maybe don't level in crush bones

iruinedyourday
11-03-2015, 07:24 PM
Blue solo farming:

http://i.imgur.com/ab6Zp7Q.jpg

Xaanka
11-03-2015, 09:08 PM
blue raid scene, #1 reason to try red even if deep down inside you're blue

http://blog.nj.com/ledgerupdates_impact/2009/02/large_lines.jpg

Rastignac
11-03-2015, 09:27 PM
Thank you Rastignac.

I will tell you a secret.

You can never go wrong with Peridots.

Also 46-47 Rubies=a Bag of the Tinkerer


Gems lose very little in conversion. Though they do lose some its nowhere near what you would lose if coined

Awesome. Am I wrong to think elf leaf has best conversion rate? Even tho stacks are worth way less?

maerilith
11-03-2015, 10:05 PM
My final verdict/testing after much research and hands on interaction with the community.

Both servers suck, but red sucks way worse. There are limited options for entertainment on red. And unless you enjoy witty retarded /ooc banter and killing other players at a disadvantage. Red lacks, the more mature and in depth gameplay that blue offers. Like petitioning peoples names and claiming camps.

I feel like anyone considering red should consider if they want to play an MMO or a an online orgy of aspergers.

Xaanka
11-03-2015, 10:10 PM
My final verdict/testing after much research and hands on interaction with the community.

Both servers suck, but red sucks way worse. There are limited options for entertainment on red. And unless you enjoy witty retarded /ooc banter and killing other players at a disadvantage. Red lacks, the more mature and in depth gameplay that blue offers. Like petitioning peoples names and claiming camps.

I feel like anyone considering red should consider if they want to play an MMO or a an online orgy of aspergers.

consider eve

Redi
11-04-2015, 12:01 AM
My final verdict/testing after much research and hands on interaction with the community.

Both servers suck, but red sucks way worse. There are limited options for entertainment on red. And unless you enjoy witty retarded /ooc banter and killing other players at a disadvantage. Red lacks, the more mature and in depth gameplay that blue offers. Like petitioning peoples names and claiming camps.

I feel like anyone considering red should consider if they want to play an MMO or a an online orgy of aspergers.

Lol

Pokesan
11-04-2015, 01:00 AM
Is this the line to post on a blue 99 thread? Can I be added to the list?

this is a high quality post in a high quality thread!

ManuelThePopStar
11-04-2015, 02:04 AM
^ how often do you find an untwinked group like that on blue? That's another reason to play red, it's in the spirit of new starts and a fresher server not riddled with mudflation and camp lawyers.

Fucking nonsense.

Sunday night there were 13 people in Mistmoore. ELEVEN OF THE THIRTEEN had Fungis and best in slot droppable. One guy was level 31, clearly deleveled. He was wielding a Claw of Lightning and pking the two people in the zone without Fungis.


You guys just want more ungeared lowbies to grief. I played pvp during live classic. If Red99 had roughly a 1500+ population it MIGHT be a viable pvp server.

ManuelThePopStar
11-04-2015, 02:16 AM
This was on Red99, just to clarify

iruinedyourday
11-04-2015, 02:19 AM
Fucking nonsense.

Sunday night there were 13 people in Mistmoore. ELEVEN OF THE THIRTEEN had Fungis and best in slot droppable. One guy was level 31, clearly deleveled. He was wielding a Claw of Lightning and pking the two people in the zone without Fungis.


You guys just want more ungeared lowbies to grief. I played pvp during live classic. If Red99 had roughly a 1500+ population it MIGHT be a viable pvp server.

lol I have leveled 4 characters through MM on red and have been killed by greifers there exactly zero times.

iruinedyourday
11-04-2015, 02:21 AM
I think the biggest problems with nerds is a griefer enters the zone, runs around for about 10 mins disturbing XP flow, and instead of you just having fun you act lik ITS THE END OF THE GOD DAMNED WORLD

and you log off hella mad.. meanwhile so does the griefer cus nobody plays on thier low level alts for mor than 20 minuets, and your group goes back to XPing and outlevels you

Pokesan
11-04-2015, 02:38 AM
Fucking nonsense.

Sunday night there were 13 people in Mistmoore. ELEVEN OF THE THIRTEEN had Fungis and best in slot droppable. One guy was level 31, clearly deleveled. He was wielding a Claw of Lightning and pking the two people in the zone without Fungis.


You guys just want more ungeared lowbies to grief. I played pvp during live classic. If Red99 had roughly a 1500+ population it MIGHT be a viable pvp server.

does deleveling even do anything?

this is a low quality post in a high quality thread

Xaanka
11-04-2015, 03:01 AM
lol I have leveled 4 characters through MM on red and have been killed by greifers there exactly zero times.

there were a few pretty bad mm griefers back in the day but there's really nothing but mediocre twinks these days, and not very many of them. a group of 6 new players with pumice stones can stand a chance, and if they have druid skins it's game over for the twink(s)

if you join <thunderdome> or are in the right place at the right time, there are a lot of people who do free PL's and you can get past the lowbie levels that get griefed in a matter of hours. if you're an aoe class and know what zones to hang out in it's especially easy to get in on the action.

but really all you have to do to get rid of pvp twinks, is go to a different zone or log out for 10 minutes. if you're a chillaxed broh who doesn't get angry at video games it's rather easy to get rid of them and move on with your day.

Swish
11-04-2015, 03:48 AM
Fucking nonsense.

Sunday night there were 13 people in Mistmoore. ELEVEN OF THE THIRTEEN had Fungis and best in slot droppable. One guy was level 31, clearly deleveled. He was wielding a Claw of Lightning and pking the two people in the zone without Fungis.


You guys just want more ungeared lowbies to grief. I played pvp during live classic. If Red99 had roughly a 1500+ population it MIGHT be a viable pvp server.

I'm gonna need to see some prof, Mr Anon forum account. If that really was the case I get the feeling that...

1. You didnt get the chance to inspect them.
2. Curious that none of them were int casters or clerics (that wouldnt need to wear one for day to day xp'ing etc)
3. Names?

Faywind
11-04-2015, 04:23 AM
you're right passing on untwinked new players LFG & requiring people to wait in line for the opportunity to camp a mob for 8 hours is totally casual.

you know compared to loging in and xping with people in rawhide and runinnig around loling and having fun not chasing any pixels at all.

http://media2.giphy.com/media/Fml0fgAxVx1eM/giphy.gif

Well I don't do those silly things on blue. I like the slow steady pace of leveling up the way I want to without having to worry about who is going to ruin my day (the journey is the whole point of why I play, not the endgame). I only have a few hours to play here and there (not everyday either) so taking a death (with potential coin loss) would not be fun and I would just have to log off after running back to my corpse and LNS. Like I said, blue is far more casual and easy going which caters more towards those who can't play as much.

Faywind
11-04-2015, 05:27 AM
Fucking nonsense.

Sunday night there were 13 people in Mistmoore. ELEVEN OF THE THIRTEEN had Fungis and best in slot droppable. One guy was level 31, clearly deleveled. He was wielding a Claw of Lightning and pking the two people in the zone without Fungis.


You guys just want more ungeared lowbies to grief. I played pvp during live classic. If Red99 had roughly a 1500+ population it MIGHT be a viable pvp server.

This. Starting on red vs. all those high end twinks, no thanks. Plus, TMO finally left blue, why would anyone want to play with those scumbags on red lol.

Bruno
11-04-2015, 05:30 AM
Well I don't do those silly things on blue. I like the slow steady pace of leveling up the way I want to without having to worry about who is going to ruin my day (the journey is the whole point of why I play, not the endgame). I only have a few hours to play here and there (not everyday either) so taking a death (with potential coin loss) would not be fun and I would just have to log off after running back to my corpse and LNS. Like I said, blue is far more casual and easy going which caters more towards those who can't play as much.

There's no point in giving serious responses. The join red spam will continue anyways. Better off saving yourself the energy and just nodding your head or giving a thumbs up instead.

ManuelThePopStar
11-04-2015, 06:37 AM
does deleveling even do anything?

this is a low quality post in a high quality thread

Does it do anything? He wearing NTOV gear at level 31 you Neanderthal

ManuelThePopStar
11-04-2015, 06:48 AM
I think the biggest problems with nerds is a griefer enters the zone, runs around for about 10 mins disturbing XP flow, and instead of you just having fun you act lik ITS THE END OF THE GOD DAMNED WORLD

and you log off hella mad.. meanwhile so does the griefer cus nobody plays on thier low level alts for mor than 20 minuets, and your group goes back to XPing and outlevels you

I've seen pvp twinks that login, kill people, force LNS and then repeat this process every hour, perpetually clearing zones of all levelling groups.

I have a feeling these unertwink characters are shared account that many people are playing.

And no, you cannot simply "goto a different zone" as their level 60 druid buddy will port them around.

Let's be honest here, and its been like this since VZTZ:

If you're part of "the crew" you'll get BIS twink geared and PLed to 60 as soon as u join Red. Hell 90% of the people promoting Red came from Blue and traded for hundreds of thousands of Red plat. You've NEVER PLAYED RED UNTWINKED yet that's what you're encouraging others to do.

EverQuest PVP is roughly 10% skill, 20% game knowledge and 70% GEAR BASED. ESPECIALLY in Velious. Have fun PVPING Warriors and Monks with 4k and 180+ all resists unbuffed, lol.

What a joke.

Swish
11-04-2015, 08:58 AM
What a joke.

Sums up this guy's posts so far quite nicely. won't provide proof because it never happened.

How about some names of these twinks? We can check the leaderboard to see if they're truly "porting around". Last person to do that I can think of was Ironlion on Abualfreporti going back a long time now.

Getting ready for more "herp derp red server is a joke" tho.

Perhaps this game (https://www.zynga.com/games/farmville) is more for you? kekek

86753o9
11-04-2015, 10:03 AM
There's no point in giving serious responses. The join red spam will continue anyways. Better off saving yourself the energy and just nodding your head or giving a thumbs up instead.

86753o9
11-04-2015, 10:04 AM
There's no point in giving serious responses. The join red spam will continue anyways. Better off saving yourself the energy and just nodding your head or giving a thumbs up instead.
Exactly.

Actually this thread, check that, this forum is a pretty good example of the puerile nonsensical bullshit that jackass junior high spews globally 24/7 on red /ooc. Except there the idiots have a captive audience. I guess the red players should be thankful though that there is no way to transmit dumb ass jpegs and gifs.

And yes just last night (or was it night before) there were low level twinks that closed down faydwer and steamfont. Wouldn't surprise me if it happens regularly. As far as forum posts making fun of red server, really all I'm seeing is players calling bullshit on the "red is better than blue" spam threads.

Swish
11-04-2015, 10:06 AM
And yes just last night (or was it night before) there were low level twinks that closed down faydwer and steamfont. Wouldn't surprise me if it happens regularly.

Proof, or names at least?

maskedmelon
11-04-2015, 10:10 AM
I've seen pvp twinks that login, kill people, force LNS and then repeat this process every hour, perpetually clearing zones of all levelling groups.

I have a feeling these unertwink characters are shared account that many people are playing.

And no, you cannot simply "goto a different zone" as their level 60 druid buddy will port them around.

Let's be honest here, and its been like this since VZTZ:

If you're part of "the crew" you'll get BIS twink geared and PLed to 60 as soon as u join Red. Hell 90% of the people promoting Red came from Blue and traded for hundreds of thousands of Red plat. You've NEVER PLAYED RED UNTWINKED yet that's what you're encouraging others to do.

EverQuest PVP is roughly 10% skill, 20% game knowledge and 70% GEAR BASED. ESPECIALLY in Velious. Have fun PVPING Warriors and Monks with 4k and 180+ all resists unbuffed, lol.

What a joke.

I never traded blue plat for red. That ended before I rolled red. And there are plenty of peeps who rolled straight up w/ no time at all on blue. So not all peeps conform to your idea and I would say most do not. Some do though.

As for twinks clearing whole zones and keeping them that way? I've not seen it, nor have I heard of it in game. Maybe before my time, but not that way now. Sure there are peeps who can make quite a disturbance, but it's generally short lived and you can return to what you are doing. OR you can pull up stakes and move camp to a less congested zone of which there are plenty ^^

And what's the deal with being "forced to call LNS"? You are not forced to do anything. It's an option to let you get your stuff if you are overwhelmed ^^ If anything, they are forced to let you be once you call LNS. No shame in admitting defeat against an insurmountable foe.

The only peeps who I've seen get killed multiple times though are the ones who take their crusade to OOC. It's a pvp server ^^ Expect pvp, fair or not. 9 times out of 10, if you are a good sport, peeps leave you alone or even lend a hand. I've had pk'ers give me buffs, help me xp, join my group, give me rez, help with corpse retrieval and so on. Have a good laugh about it and move on. It's a different mindset, but one that isn't that difficult to understand if you just take a moment.

As for gear influence on pvp, yeah it's there, but so are latency advantages based on your location. You also significantly underestimate the value of skill. There are a lot of peeps who rely on their gear far too much and can be taken with a bit of effort by an under eared player with a bit of planning^^

Swish
11-04-2015, 12:26 PM
Good post.

If I can kill people from over in Europe I'm sure a lot of others won't have any trouble... the only thing my latency ever made difficult was bard kiting.

Also as mentioned I've been corpse camped once in my whole time on red and it was pre-LNS rule, some troll shaman decided he'd sit in the middle of the East Karana ramp for about 30 minutes. Very rare to see it happen to leveling characters.

Step into a raid situation though and a guild can slaughter another guild and make them LNS.... so even when you're dead you still have unconditional access to your corpse if you're LNS'ing.

I strongly believe that anyone who's bored of the same old same old on blue and wants to try something a little different should give it a go and see what happens :)

Rastignac
11-04-2015, 12:29 PM
I've seen pvp twinks that login, kill people, force LNS and then repeat this process every hour, perpetually clearing zones of all levelling groups.

I have a feeling these unertwink characters are shared account that many people are playing.

And no, you cannot simply "goto a different zone" as their level 60 druid buddy will port them around.

Let's be honest here, and its been like this since VZTZ:

If you're part of "the crew" you'll get BIS twink geared and PLed to 60 as soon as u join Red. Hell 90% of the people promoting Red came from Blue and traded for hundreds of thousands of Red plat. You've NEVER PLAYED RED UNTWINKED yet that's what you're encouraging others to do.

EverQuest PVP is roughly 10% skill, 20% game knowledge and 70% GEAR BASED. ESPECIALLY in Velious. Have fun PVPING Warriors and Monks with 4k and 180+ all resists unbuffed, lol.

What a joke.


This is just hogwash. Never played a twinked day in my life. Sure, if you stay just on the Unrest-MM circuit you are going to get more grief than you would otherwise. There are plenty of other places. But even in those zones, I've played dozens of hours without a single backstab.

Majority of what you are saying is misinformed, the rest is whambulance.

Rastignac
11-04-2015, 12:30 PM
Exactly.

Actually this thread, check that, this forum is a pretty good example of the puerile nonsensical bullshit that jackass junior high spews globally 24/7 on red /ooc. Except there the idiots have a captive audience. I guess the red players should be thankful though that there is no way to transmit dumb ass jpegs and gifs.

And yes just last night (or was it night before) there were low level twinks that closed down faydwer and steamfont. Wouldn't surprise me if it happens regularly. As far as forum posts making fun of red server, really all I'm seeing is players calling bullshit on the "red is better than blue" spam threads.

This is completely at odds with the tone of most of what has been said here by Red advocates. Seems like an ingrained opinion backed by copypasta.

Pokesan
11-04-2015, 12:34 PM
Does it do anything? He wearing NTOV gear at level 31 you Neanderthal

That's a function of gear, not level. Please try to be less of an idiot in the future.

Rastignac
11-04-2015, 12:37 PM
This is completely at odds with the tone of most of what has been said here by Red advocates. Seems like an ingrained opinion backed by copypasta.

What a mean to say is that you guys seem to want to paint a picture of Blue as the more civilized server, when in reality it's just the more bureaucratic server.

Swish
11-04-2015, 12:51 PM
Put global ooc on blue for an hour and watch the walls of "civilized society" come crumbling down in minutes. Can you imagine the raid related chat and salty tears on that if it happened? lol

That's the real down side of blue, so many rules, processes and people trying to lawyer them in their own direction....I'm surprised people put up with it.

ManuelThePopStar
11-04-2015, 01:17 PM
And yes just last night (or was it night before) there were low level twinks that closed down faydwer and steamfont. Wouldn't surprise me if it happens regularly. As far as forum posts making fun of red server, really all I'm seeing is players calling bullshit on the "red is better than blue" spam threads.

And it's only just starting. In a few months time, since they gave epic weapons a required level, you'll soon start seeing fully NTOV-geared, deleveled, level 30 PVP twinks as commonplace.

We're talking level 30s with 3k unbuffed HP, max all melee stats, 175+ all resists, and dual wielding weapons like Claw of Lightning (14/18 41% haste).

If you don't believe me, that's fine. But again, I played on Tallon Zek during live, and this is precisely what happened. Hell THIS item here became the "gold standard" for deleveled PK twinks on Tallon Zek:

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=20572

ManuelThePopStar
11-04-2015, 01:19 PM
That's a function of gear, not level. Please try to be less of an idiot in the future.

There's a level 46 requirement to enter the Temple of Veeshan. That's the "deleveled" portion.

Swish
11-04-2015, 01:22 PM
And it's only just starting. In a few months time, since they gave epic weapons a required level, you'll soon start seeing fully NTOV-geared, deleveled, level 30 PVP twinks as commonplace.

I don't see that happening, people got better things to do.

ManuelThePopStar
11-04-2015, 01:25 PM
I don't see that happening, people got better things to do.

It was RAMPANT on Tallon Zek live man

HELL I still remember the name of a deleveled Rogue who used to sit in Paludal Caverns ALL DAY.

Toon named "Noobslayer" and had a Rogue Epic + 26/28 Runeproc (lvl 1) Stone Etched mallet as well as full BIS NTOV items in every slot.

You say it won't happen here, yet back when Epics had no level requirement, I'd seen NUMEROUS ridiculous things like level 10 RANGERS AND WARRIORS with epics. Show a SINGLE Ranger or Warrior twink on blue a fucking EPIC.

Rastignac
11-04-2015, 01:34 PM
It was RAMPANT on Tallon Zek live man

HELL I still remember the name of a deleveled Rogue who used to sit in Paludal Caverns ALL DAY.

Toon named "Noobslayer" and had a Rogue Epic + 26/28 Runeproc (lvl 1) Stone Etched mallet as well as full BIS NTOV items in every slot.

You say it won't happen here, yet back when Epics had no level requirement, I'd seen NUMEROUS ridiculous things like level 10 RANGERS AND WARRIORS with epics. Show a SINGLE Ranger or Warrior twink on blue a fucking EPIC.

Beyond your mischaracterizations, you aren't even talking about current Red, you are talking about an admixture of things that "used" to happen on this server and a completely different server. And even within that error you are only referring to a handful of zones out of a gazillion.

Really scraping the bottom of the barrel.

Pokesan
11-04-2015, 01:45 PM
Just say they have TOV gear you idiot baby.

iruinedyourday
11-04-2015, 02:14 PM
well one thing is for sure manualtheraper got griefed off of red and now only posts on the forums.

Join red today if you want to play on a server where moron posters cant hack it.

Spyder73
11-04-2015, 02:17 PM
Join red today if you want to play on a server where moron posters cant hack it.

*stares at Swish*

iruinedyourday
11-04-2015, 02:20 PM
if this cuck fraud version of altari is going to insinuate his shit spam about his crap surname is superior to any of swishes worst posts let alone the myrad of amazing gifs and jokes he posts ill loose my shit.

Spyder this is the forum for you: http://www.project1999.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=72

Seltius
11-04-2015, 03:07 PM
Easier just to quote all of them in 1 post since everyone already TL;DR most of my posts anyway

Awesome. Am I wrong to think elf leaf has best conversion rate? Even tho stacks are worth way less?
I am not familiar with the Elf Leaf sorry but the nice thing about Peridots is they are used by clerics and enchanters for higher level spells. They can be broken down to around 9-10pp each and so you carry almost 200pp a stack can also be used for donations for ports and other things. Once you start raiding or doing higher level grouping you will always have a use for Peridots.

My final verdict/testing after much research and hands on interaction with the community.

Both servers suck, but red sucks way worse. There are limited options for entertainment on red. And unless you enjoy witty retarded /ooc banter and killing other players at a disadvantage. Red lacks, the more mature and in depth gameplay that blue offers. Like petitioning peoples names and claiming camps.

I feel like anyone considering red should consider if they want to play an MMO or a an online orgy of aspergers.
A game is what you make it only limited by your imagination. Also you can always minimize /ooc if you need help figuring it out just ask someone in tells instead of ooc. Chances are the people who do so don't read ooc anyway.

Fucking nonsense.

Sunday night there were 13 people in Mistmoore. ELEVEN OF THE THIRTEEN had Fungis and best in slot droppable. One guy was level 31, clearly deleveled. He was wielding a Claw of Lightning and pking the two people in the zone without Fungis.


You guys just want more ungeared lowbies to grief. I played pvp during live classic. If Red99 had roughly a 1500+ population it MIGHT be a viable pvp server.

I call shenanigans please post a SS of said claw of lightning and all the fungi. I am level 55+ on 2 characters and have never had the pleasure of a Fungi touching my scales/skin. Also I have leveled several alts and rarely see pvp at lower levels by twinked griefers it is more likely to see just normal pvp.

There's no point in giving serious responses. The join red spam will continue anyways. Better off saving yourself the energy and just nodding your head or giving a thumbs up instead.

No honestly your opinion matters please post it. People will agree or disagree and yes it may start debates or arguments but that is what happens in a community.

I've seen pvp twinks that login, kill people, force LNS and then repeat this process every hour, perpetually clearing zones of all levelling groups.

I have a feeling these unertwink characters are shared account that many people are playing.

And no, you cannot simply "goto a different zone" as their level 60 druid buddy will port them around.

Let's be honest here, and its been like this since VZTZ:

If you're part of "the crew" you'll get BIS twink geared and PLed to 60 as soon as u join Red. Hell 90% of the people promoting Red came from Blue and traded for hundreds of thousands of Red plat. You've NEVER PLAYED RED UNTWINKED yet that's what you're encouraging others to do.

EverQuest PVP is roughly 10% skill, 20% game knowledge and 70% GEAR BASED. ESPECIALLY in Velious. Have fun PVPING Warriors and Monks with 4k and 180+ all resists unbuffed, lol.

What a joke.

I am playing red untwinked right now. Btw if you have no one giving you even beginner gear to help you out then maybe its time to make some friends. Oh and WTH is this "the crew" you speak of I need to meat them.

Exactly.

Actually this thread, check that, this forum is a pretty good example of the puerile nonsensical bullshit that jackass junior high spews globally 24/7 on red /ooc. Except there the idiots have a captive audience. I guess the red players should be thankful though that there is no way to transmit dumb ass jpegs and gifs.

And yes just last night (or was it night before) there were low level twinks that closed down faydwer and steamfont. Wouldn't surprise me if it happens regularly. As far as forum posts making fun of red server, really all I'm seeing is players calling bullshit on the "red is better than blue" spam threads.

I don't buy it last night I was in Steamfront on a new toon leveling and The only thing I can say watch for is the Mage boxes that are poping up there. But even they were untwinked in beginner gear. Beyond that the worst thing about those 2 zones was there weren't enough people in zone to group with consistently to level.

And it's only just starting. In a few months time, since they gave epic weapons a required level, you'll soon start seeing fully NTOV-geared, deleveled, level 30 PVP twinks as commonplace.

We're talking level 30s with 3k unbuffed HP, max all melee stats, 175+ all resists, and dual wielding weapons like Claw of Lightning (14/18 41% haste).

If you don't believe me, that's fine. But again, I played on Tallon Zek during live, and this is precisely what happened. Hell THIS item here became the "gold standard" for deleveled PK twinks on Tallon Zek:

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=20572

You spew the same crap over and over in this thread and haven't provided 1 ounce of proof that it happened. I cannot see Empire giving that weapon to toons that delevel to 30 yet. Not saying it isn't possible would just like to see the proof in the pudding in your posts.

if this cuck fraud version of altari is going to insinuate his shit spam about his crap surname is superior to any of swishes worst posts let alone the myrad of amazing gifs and jokes he posts ill loose my shit.

Spyder this is the forum for you: http://www.project1999.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=72

I have to agree with you there. Spyder I liked WuTang Clan too when I was like 12. I think you would make a very poor representation of them with your whining about the surname on the forums. Swish makes me laugh with his gifs I would much rather see them than see your 15th+ post complaining about your surname.


Thank you all you gave me a chance to do a real TL;DR for everyone out there. I would give each of you credit here for it but this post is too long to go back through to find everyone's name!

In closing play the game you like or love. Play it the way you want to and have fun. If you don't want to try something different then don't. But try not to be too close-minded to people trying to offer you a change or asking you to try something new.

Bionic
11-04-2015, 05:23 PM
On Red (50s Chanter) I mainly farm items to sell, wearing only crap CHA gear. Very rarely see PvP. In the rare instances I do, I might die / zone, then log or logon to a different toon for a bit. Come back to a clean camp and go unbothered the rest of the evening.

On Blue, (60 Torpor Shammy) I find a camp fully popped and proceed to clear it. 10 minutes later a few knuckleheads come in and start lawyer-questing me about how "they were there but had died to some random train caused by pathing issues and that Rule 4 and 6 states that this is still their camp and I should really go read the rules on the website...". So what do I do? Log and play Red.

I don't have the time I once had to play. I sure don't have time to type up dispositions of why a camp is mine and cite the legalities that enforce my stance on that particular issue. For folks like me, Red is the only place where we can get on and get a camp immediately to actually accomplish something / make gains without having to hang out on some list for 3+ hours.

I get it if some of you Blue players don't want to start over. More power to you. But if you're limited in the time you have to put into the game, but enjoy logging in for short periods of time and wish you could find a camp immediately when you get the chance to play, give Red a look. Most of the Red players on this thread were Bluebies first. We've actually played both servers (unlike the Blue players who are here bashing Red) and are telling you this from experience and because we know you'd enjoy it better.

Peace!

Spyder73
11-04-2015, 06:02 PM
if this cuck fraud version of altari is going to insinuate his shit spam about his crap surname is superior to any of swishes worst posts let alone the myrad of amazing gifs and jokes he posts ill loose my shit.

Spyder this is the forum for you: http://www.project1999.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=72

I'm insinuating you are both no talent hacks who e-finger each other's buttholes on the forums all day. I doubt either of u even play anymore on Barren99 aka Red

Spyder73
11-04-2015, 06:03 PM
And I actually like Swish despite his surname bigotry towards me

Xaanka
11-04-2015, 06:07 PM
Hey, players who are on the fence about trying red. As a person who actually plays on the red server, none of the things these blue players are writing essays about are actually true. Red server is a fun chill place where most levelers are either new players starting fresh, or peoples' alts with a little bit of twink. It's a pvp server and yeah pvp twinks exist, but it's really not as big of a deal as these peoples' fantasy scenarios are making it sound. I've leveled 9 characters to level 50+ on red now, always un-twinked except for the time where I changed my main class, and the worst I've encountered from a twink was having to log off and watch TV for 10 minutes while I was in mistmoore once. If you get PK'd, all you have to do is walk away from the keyboard for a couple of minutes and not send the person who killed you angry tells, and they'll probably get bored + leave you alone. If you're cool + normal and level headed, red server is not a scary place at all until you're in range to level 60.

Xaanka
11-04-2015, 06:12 PM
and once you're level 56+ the deal is, you pick a faction/join a guild and roll with your broh's. the best part about the red server, is that the pvp rules force you to rely on other people & form meaningful friendships with your comrades. it just isn't the same on blue. of course you still have your friends, but you're not counting on them to survive and progress like you do on red.

Seltius
11-04-2015, 06:17 PM
Hey, players who are on the fence about trying red. As a person who actually plays on the red server, none of the things these blue players are writing essays about are actually true. Red server is a fun chill place where most levelers are either new players starting fresh, or peoples' alts with a little bit of twink. It's a pvp server and yeah pvp twinks exist, but it's really not as big of a deal as these peoples' fantasy scenarios are making it sound. I've leveled 9 characters to level 50+ on red now, always un-twinked except for the time where I changed my main class, and the worst I've encountered from a twink was having to log off and watch TV for 10 minutes while I was in mistmoore once. If you get PK'd, all you have to do is walk away from the keyboard for a couple of minutes and not send the person who killed you angry tells, and they'll probably get bored + leave you alone. If you're cool + normal and level headed, red server is not a scary place at all until you're in range to level 60.

+

Good post

iruinedyourday
11-04-2015, 06:18 PM
Great post after great post from my comrades keep it up pals.

Xaanka
11-04-2015, 06:26 PM
We also have a strong community of players willing to help both new players, and blue players who want to make the switch alike. It's hard to give up what you have on blue or another box and start fresh, but at the end of the day you're making progress on a server that's more fun to play on, especially at the endgame. <Thunderdome> is an awesome leveling guild full of groups running at every range. I know there's several players who do a lot to help new, dedicated players in my guild <TMO> and I'm sure all the other guilds on the server also have cool people willing to help out people making the switch. Consider red!

iruinedyourday
11-04-2015, 06:28 PM
We also have a strong community of players willing to help both new players

yep it strue i dont even know xaanka in game but if he pm'd me and asked to fly out to his home town to clean his gutters with him id do it.

Xaanka
11-04-2015, 06:29 PM
yep it strue i dont even know xaanka in game but if he pm'd me and asked to fly out to his home town to clean his gutters with him id do it.

same, bro :cool:

Pokesan
11-04-2015, 06:30 PM
isn't the red server full of racists? stryder casey etc?

Xaanka
11-04-2015, 06:32 PM
you don't have to play w/ people you don't like

iruinedyourday
11-04-2015, 06:41 PM
On red you get banned as quickly as you can post for hate speach.

So far on the blue forums we've had threads about eugenics and people literately trying to explain earnestly how one race is better than the other that go on for days and days.

The big difference is red players say shit to get you rustled, blue players say that shit because they actually believe it.

ManuelThePopStar
11-04-2015, 06:51 PM
Just say they have TOV gear you idiot baby.

Again......you're required to be level 46 or higher to enter the Temple of Veeshan (and subsequently loot any NO DROP item)

Therefore, the level 31 Rogue with a Claw of Lightning, was clearly deleveled to at least some degree.

Pokesan
11-04-2015, 07:46 PM
Again......you're required to be level 46 or higher to enter the Temple of Veeshan (and subsequently loot any NO DROP item)

Therefore, the level 31 Rogue with a Claw of Lightning, was clearly deleveled to at least some degree.

Ok, I will explain this step by step for you, so that you will finally understand and shut your whore mouth

1. Delevelling does nothing on P99. Gear is just gear.

END OF EXPLANATION RETARD

Pokesan
11-04-2015, 07:48 PM
you don't have to play w/ people you don't like

Can they still PvP me? I'm not great at video games, I don't want those people to feel any happiness, which they would upon defeating my elf hero :(

iruinedyourday
11-04-2015, 07:48 PM
pokesan you should just roll red, then you dont have to interact with manuelthethickskulled... cus he already got greifed off the server

pras the lvl 31 rog for cleaning the land of scum.

ManuelThePopStar
11-04-2015, 10:38 PM
Ok, I will explain this step by step for you, so that you will finally understand and shut your whore mouth

1. Delevelling does nothing on P99. Gear is just gear.

END OF EXPLANATION RETARD

1. When de-leveling you do, in fact, retain a higher skillcap on your skills
2. De-levelling allows players to PVP lowbies in rags while wearing equipment that was intended SOLELY for acquisition by level 60s at the very utmost end game.
3. Red99 is an absolutely MISERABLE fucking experience.

I didn't get "griefed off the server." In fact I only died twice in PVP by the time I hit level 52, being that I was playing a Cleric. I quit of my own volition.

Again....if Red99 had a consistent population of 1000-2000 players it would POSSIBLY be a viable EverQuest PVP server.

EverQuest PVP as I experienced it, back in the years 2000 to 2003, entailed three, four, perhaps even FIVE guilds PVPing over almost every raid encounter. The end-game, raid-guild population on Tallon Zek was greater than your ENTIRE SERVER'S POPULATION.

Pokesan
11-04-2015, 10:42 PM
1. When de-leveling you do, in fact, retain a higher skillcap on your skills.

No.

Xaanka
11-04-2015, 10:49 PM
Can they still PvP me? I'm not great at video games, I don't want those people to feel any happiness, which they would upon defeating my elf hero :(

you can stay at level 49/54/55 forever and farm seafuries to your hearts content

1. When de-leveling you do, in fact, retain a higher skillcap on your skills
2. De-levelling allows players to PVP lowbies in rags while wearing equipment that was intended SOLELY for acquisition by level 60s at the very utmost end game.
3. Red99 is an absolutely MISERABLE fucking experience.

I didn't get "griefed off the server." In fact I only died twice in PVP by the time I hit level 52, being that I was playing a Cleric. I quit of my own volition.

Again....if Red99 had a consistent population of 1000-2000 players it would POSSIBLY be a viable EverQuest PVP server.

EverQuest PVP as I experienced it, back in the years 2000 to 2003, entailed three, four, perhaps even FIVE guilds PVPing over almost every raid encounter. The end-game, raid-guild population on Tallon Zek was greater than your ENTIRE SERVER'S POPULATION.

it sounds like you get really angry over video games. take a breather dude. i've only ever seen maybe a small handful of deleveled characters, and that's including mage farm bots that won't ever pvp you. now that epics have a 46 requirement the only active deleveled characters don't even play anymore.

maerilith
11-05-2015, 10:32 AM
I think they need to put back in exp loss and +/- 10 level pvp range on red. And we need chewie back. I can't seem to keep my interest in that server without him and the massive pvp.

Oh and PVP Needs to be classic or limited zones only. People are toooo spread out and pvp only happens at level 60 near a dragon or tormax, sometimes.

Gaunja
11-05-2015, 02:03 PM
Anyone from blue thinking about red server, get in touch with me. I'll come buff you and give you some starter gear.

Swish
11-05-2015, 02:04 PM
It was +/- 8 ... I don't think that would be good for new players, but maybe have it in at 52-60.

iruinedyourday
11-05-2015, 02:05 PM
Was thinking the other night, someone on a stream was talking about how they hate all the "Drama" in eq and all the "idiots that cause problems, and blame the wrong person in a group"

On red when that happens, you kick the shit out of them and it feels GOOOOOOOOOOOOD

dont you wish you could do that to the idiot monk who keeps FD'ing mobs onto the healer when hes at 90% health and then yelling at the healer for not doing his job?

I did, and I killed him and it felt gooooooooooooog

Salaryman
11-05-2015, 02:30 PM
I leveled my paladin to around 45 without using items I Couldnt obtain myself (no trading), mostly solo.
Playing the game this way was actualy very fun and challenging, and I didnt just stick to one zone I went to them all.
It was fun pvping even if I was outmatched.
Red99 best game ive ever played, didnt even play classic eq.