What's the point?

[dafier]

Guilds.

This game has them. There are purposes of joining them such as, having people to hang with, help out and raid. Also, prove that your guild can beat the competition (other guilds).

One of the coolest things to do is beat other guilds to content.

So....

What the hell is the point of having a guild if you, your guild, is unable to beat certain content without teaming up with another guild?

1. So you can get the experience of what it takes to do it on your own.

2. Get some loots that you would normally not be able to.

3. Even though the circumstances are not "your guild did it", you still get to say, "Ya, we did that".

Doing this....once or maybe a couple times, I personally think, OK that's cool. But, consistently teaming up with other guilds to do content instead of building your own guild up so you can be known as a bad ass guild who can do this, while others can't, is just lame. It's more than lame, it's flat out wussy crap.

Do yourself a favour if you are going to work together. Merge. Don't be scared, just do it. Stop making yourself look like you suck by needed the help of another guild.

JUST MERGE!

[am0n]

Are you upset because an alliance of guilds won another FTE from your guild?

[Clasick]

It's ok OP
it does not affect you in any way how other guilds kill mobs.
Don't be jelly because you have a massive loot line up behind your massive guild roster !

[dafier]

Trust me when I say BDA, we get a lot of loots and people get all worked up over it. I'm proud of that. As for winning FTEs, good for you and good for us.

Don't avoid the subject focus here.

JUST MERGE

[maskedmelon]

Personally, I would like to see games accommodate merc guilds ^^ Small bands of überness that can help YOU tackle content normally out of reach... For a small fee ^^

[dafier]

Oh and Gimpatron, doesn't need to merge. They are already have a name for their alliance.

[Swish]

Guild and raid leaders, along with the brown nosing officers they employ typically take the role on because at one level or another they enjoy the power trip or in some cases, as with some raiding guilds, they get to look after their pals first...and keep new members well away from the precious pixels (after all Soandso has been in the guild for YEARS, his 6th alt deserved that item over the new member on his main)

Anyone know of any guilds like that?

I've never been an officer in an EQ guild, or WoW or anything else...its more fun to just enjoy the game you're playing without all the politics and drama.

[Baler]

I'm afraid to join any guild.

[maestrom]

In a word, drama.

Some people are adults and can deal with each other in a professional and friendly manner in order to take down big targets through jolly cooperation.

None of these people play EQ.

Raid guilds push themselves, and each other, to the limit of what is possible in this game. When you play at that level, people get stressed out and start to get a little cranky with each other. When people rub each other the wrong way and have to deal with each other lots (through guild chat and other social aspects of guilds), it creates drama.

Drama doesn't really matter, except it tends to get on other peoples' nerves. And since there are no adults in this game, people behave badly. They RMT on guildie's accounts. They talk shit about each other. The ragequit the guild and cause a ton of problems on the forums. This takes attention away from pixels.

Forming an alliance with another guild to get to the full zergforce is one way that guilds can deal with these social/non-pixel issues. If I really hate you, but you and I are in different guilds and have to go out of our ways to talk to each other, then we're less likely to get irritated with each other and distract our officers.

[FatMice]

In a word, drama.

Some people are adults and can deal with each other in a professional and friendly manner in order to take down big targets through jolly cooperation.

None of these people play EQ.

Raid guilds push themselves, and each other, to the limit of what is possible in this game. When you play at that level, people get stressed out and start to get a little cranky with each other. When people rub each other the wrong way and have to deal with each other lots (through guild chat and other social aspects of guilds), it creates drama.

Drama doesn't really matter, except it tends to get on other peoples' nerves. And since there are no adults in this game, people behave badly. They RMT on guildie's accounts. They talk shit about each other. The ragequit the guild and cause a ton of problems on the forums. This takes attention away from pixels.

Forming an alliance with another guild to get to the full zergforce is one way that guilds can deal with these social/non-pixel issues. If I really hate you, but you and I are in different guilds and have to go out of our ways to talk to each other, then we're less likely to get irritated with each other and distract our officers.

And then...

Hehe. I've said many times that I don't raid here. But the reason I don't raid is that I don't want to participate in the FTE-train grieffest.

I participate in the camp-money-loot sockfest. Doing a 16 hour sock doesn't bug me at all. That's what netflix, juggs, and fear respawns are for.

I know this in Rants'n'Flames, but just don't throw mud on people whom you really have no interaction with. It gives you and the people you don't know bad name. We all have jobs/obligations, families, and there are those who hold themselves to a professional standard. And guess what... people in professional settings also get upset. Hell, they might even yell at you and call you bad names. It might get so bad that you will get sued.

This is a community. The more people realize this and treat each other with respect without trying to shit on other people everything would be better. Let the competition remain in game in lieu of bold statements of disrespect.

[zanderklocke]

Personally, I would like to see games accommodate merc guilds ^^ Small bands of überness that can help YOU tackle content normally out of reach... For a small fee ^^

Sounds like the A-Team a few years ago.

[Calibretto]

Just shut up dude. Seriously. Shut up.

[maestrom]

And then...



I know this in Rants'n'Flames, but just don't throw mud on people whom you really have no interaction with. It gives you and the people you don't know bad name. We all have jobs/obligations, families, and there are those who hold themselves to a professional standard. And guess what... people in professional settings also get upset. Hell, they might even yell at you and call you bad names. It might get so bad that you will get sued.

This is a community. The more people realize this and treat each other with respect without trying to shit on other people everything would be better. Let the competition remain in game in lieu of bold statements of disrespect.

You know. Retracted.

I intended my comments to come off as self-deprecating more than anything else. If I could edit I would.

[arsenalpow]

And then...



I know this in Rants'n'Flames, but just don't throw mud on people whom you really have no interaction with. It gives you and the people you don't know bad name. We all have jobs/obligations, families, and there are those who hold themselves to a professional standard. And guess what... people in professional settings also get upset. Hell, they might even yell at you and call you bad names. It might get so bad that you will get sued.

This is a community. The more people realize this and treat each other with respect without trying to shit on other people everything would be better. Let the competition remain in game in lieu of bold statements of disrespect.

I watch Hoku/Cucumbers argue with Detoxx/Unbrella about nearly every single contested mob for DAYS. Literally days. LawyerQuest is a thing, and it's an absolutely crucial aspect to bleeding edge content raids, and that makes me sad.

[FatMice]

I watch Hoku/Cucumbers argue with Detoxx/Unbrella about nearly every single contested mob for DAYS. Literally days. LawyerQuest is a thing, and it's an absolutely crucial aspect to bleeding edge content raids, and that makes me sad.

While I am not a fan of Lawyerquest and I don't participate in it within Forsaken; to me I understand this as a good level of competition on this server. This is what Rogean, Nilbog, and Sirken all have stated they want multiple times. At time we disagree but there are those time when respect is given.

Last night was one of those examples. There are a many skilled players who play this game who take time to really invest in the mechanics.

Also, what would you expect? We are playing a dated video game mostly anonymously. We all want pixels and to improve our characters. Would you not want your leadership to fight for you and your raid pals?

Take a break. Look at the bigger picture. To me, Project 1999 has become more and more successful. With the hope of more events, a competitive raid scene, and new servers in the future, I hope you share my sentiments.

[am0n]

Last night was one of those examples.


Mind sharing? Inquiring minds want to know!

[JurisDictum]

Well you can't expect other guilds to just stand back for hours and watch BDA train themselves, fumble, and fuck-up their pulls or heals. Eventually, the other guild will strike a deal with loot division; so that a more deserving group of people get the mob.

It is sad to see BDA devolve from the pathetic state it was 2 years ago, to the even more pathetic state is in now. They truly have become the drain of the server -- collecting most the shit that better guilds don't want. Nevertheless, they seem to labor under this delusion that they are a serious guild.

[Nibblewitz]

Well you can't expect other guilds to just stand back for hours and watch BDA train themselves, fumble, and fuck-up their pulls or heals. Eventually, the other guild will strike a deal with loot division; so that a more deserving group of people get the mob.

It is sad to see BDA devolve from the pathetic state it was 2 years ago, to the even more pathetic state is in now. They truly have become the drain of the server -- collecting most the shit that better guilds don't want. Nevertheless, they seem to labor under this delusion that they are a serious guild.

This guy gets it.

FUCK BDA

[Spyder73]

Mind sharing? Inquiring minds want to know!

Asgard and Forsaken took down lord Vyem (arguably toughest dragon in nToV). Rampage concede us time for an attempt after an unfortunate spawn situation, and then Asgard and Forsaken one shot'd the mob.

Now some BDA members appear to be forever mad and rustled that they are a tier 3 guild.

Alliances allow for not wiping dkp, keeping guild chat family oriented, and for tackling large raid mobs together, and doing smaller stuff alone, it's really quite nice.

[dafier]

From now and on when you read "BDA" you need to phonetically pronounce it "baduh".

After reading what Jurisdictum just wrote, that came to mind.

[dafier]

Asgard and Forsaken took down lord Vyem (arguably toughest dragon in nToV). Rampage concede us time for an attempt after an unfortunate spawn situation, and then Asgard and Forsaken one shot'd the mob.

Now some BDA members appear to be forever mad and rustled that they are a tier 3 guild.

Alliances allow for not wiping dkp, keeping guild chat family oriented, and for tackling large raid mobs together, and doing smaller stuff alone, it's really quite nice.

Has nothing to do with your latest exploits, whether they are commendable or not.

JUST MERGE ALREADY!

[dafier]

I know there was a thread started a while back about naming for your merge, but on a serious note try these names out for a new merged guild name:

1. Prancing Pride

2. Flaming Bulges

3. Colorful Sprinkles

4. Fabulous Fancies

I have more, let me know if any of these suit you?

[dafier]

I mean everyone knows your type, and you need to stick together. ;)

Get it?! Oh you get/catch it!

[Valse]

Has nothing to do with your latest exploits, whether they are commendable or not.

JUST MERGE ALREADY!

I make better mergers in the toilet after my morning coffee.

[Spyder73]

Has nothing to do with your latest exploits, whether they are commendable or not.

JUST MERGE ALREADY!

Will not happen, will stay Asgard, will continue drinking BDA tears, will send postcard from velious with all my new nTOV loot

[jcr4990]

Guild and raid leaders, along with the brown nosing officers they employ typically take the role on because at one level or another they enjoy the power trip or in some cases, as with some raiding guilds, they get to look after their pals first...and keep new members well away from the precious pixels (after all Soandso has been in the guild for YEARS, his 6th alt deserved that item over the new member on his main)

Anyone know of any guilds like that?

I've never been an officer in an EQ guild, or WoW or anything else...its more fun to just enjoy the game you're playing without all the politics and drama.
Dunno what guild this is directed at. But I really have no idea where this comes from. I've never been part of a guild that has done this. Not on Live not in other games and not on P99. I joined BDA at the start of Velious and I've already gotten quite a bit of loot /shrug

HOWEVER back to RNF shitposting. I find it HILARIOUS that 3 different guilds all of which have enough members to do their own raids somehow find it necessary to do 2-3 way joint raids just to compete with BDA. THEN have the sack to come to RNF and boast about their multi guild zerg kills and imply they are a "tier" ahead because of it. Yikes guys. Seriously yikes.

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[Pint]

I like this thread a lot. Dont want to strain your guild to its max to accomplish things? Work with other guilds. Guild have such a shitty server rep that nobody will work with you? Go kill kunark targets.

[arsenalpow]

There were offers from multiple guilds to do content, including Forsaken. It's gonna be winter for a long time, we'll get our kills at some point. Thanks for your interest.

[Dalven]

I find it HILARIOUS that 3 different guilds all of which have enough members to do their own raids somehow find it necessary to do 2-3 way joint raids just to compete with BDA.

Guilds joint raid to compete with Rampage, not BDA. Excepting VP of course but you guys don't seem that bothered about it anymore /shrug.

[Orruar]

bleeding edge content raids

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[jcr4990]

There were offers from multiple guilds to do content, including Forsaken. It's gonna be winter for a long time, we'll get our kills at some point. Thanks for your interest.
Amen to this. We'll do it by ourselves and I wouldn't want it any other way. Teaming up with multiple other guilds to down a dragon feels like using an aimbot in CS. It's fun for like 5 minutes then you realize if you have to resort to that you're just really bad at the game and should quit.

[Legday]

Dalv, BDA thinks they're still relevant .

Asgard/Forsaken combined are roughly the same numbers as Rampage in NToV.

Asgard/Taken combined are roughly the same numbers as BDA in VP.

We don't "just compete" with BDA. We "barely notice they are in zone".

[Krule]

Dalv, BDA thinks they're still relevant .

Asgard/Forsaken combined are roughly the same numbers as Rampage in NToV.

Asgard/Taken combined are roughly the same numbers as BDA in VP.

We don't "just compete" with BDA. We "barely notice they are in zone".

Went back to Blue eh Legday?

Yuck.

[Troubled]

BDA fq game gone down the shitter.

[Champion_Standing]

Amen to this. We'll do it by ourselves and I wouldn't want it any other way. Teaming up with multiple other guilds to down a dragon feels like using an aimbot in CS. It's fun for like 5 minutes then you realize if you have to resort to that you're just really bad at the game and should quit.

lol'd

Why don't u just do it solo bro?

[Legday]

Went back to Blue eh Legday?

Yuck.

Need to address this.

Apparently some virgin on red stole my name. I'm told it's actually a well known person on the server's alt.

Not the same person.

Blue Legday - original, funny, good looking, can't hold agro
Red Legday - unoriginal, probably good looking

[Emjaye]

No question that these patchwork raid forces of gimps who struggle to compete on their own are discouraging to the authentic guilds.

The bigger issue here is the dysfunctional state of dragon raiding on p1999 which enables these pick-up raiders to thrive because 99% of all in game content can be straight up skipped. A significant portion of the most desirable encounters can be done in 20 minutes from start of mobilization to corpse on ground. As long as you win the FTE race and have a few guys who have a Ph.D. in running in circles there are nearly no limitations to what you can zerg to death with auto attack and a handful of clerics. These rent-a-raid nerds would not sit next to eachother for 3-4 hours if they had to clear trash or make any tangible effort.

The grand irony of p1999 is that the most un-classic thing of all is the dev's refusal to evolve the content/rules to the landscape of the server seemingly in an attempt to keep the emulation 'classic'. You bet your life that if this dumpster fire was raging on live 15 years ago that there would have been 10 patches to get it under control.

#endcontentskipping

[Oleris]

we voted yes: 35% to no: 65% with a merger with Forsaken before Velious launched. Some people have very strong feelings against a merger, and some want the merger. So far, the decision not to merge has been working out for us.

We spent the first 2 months gearing out in Kunark+HOT armor to be able to take on the harder content in Velious. Now we are accomplishing it with Forsaken and dominating VP with Taken.

[Legday]

These rent-a-raid nerds would not sit next to eachother for 3-4 hours if they had to clear trash or make any tangible effort.

Ok, so you don't have a clue what you're talking about? Got it.

Spent the last 4 days staring at our Forsaken buddies in NToV clearing tons and tons of trash, keeping buffs up socking, and racing a mega guild at every turn.

Inb4 I have no life.

[ArumTP]

Rebbon just mad that asgard/taken alliance is working well and has been regularly making a sweep of VP since joining up. Before that, while everyone was racing around on velious content, bda was clearing it. In the last month BDA has gotten 2 vp dragons(one is a team up with taken), all the rest to taken/asgard.

Rebbon perhaps rustled at the asgard/forsaken alliance getting ntov mobs and the only BDA got a messy ikitar?

Rebbon rustled by rampage using Divinity and they scored some aow loot twice now?

[jcr4990]

Guys I am massively rustled that 3 different guilds that weren't doing very well on their own decided to form Gimpatron 2.0 and is now bragging about being able to kill things.

Pls send help.

[Legday]

I missed the part where we are bragging i guess. I see us posting in our recruitment thread and I see an RnF that BDA created directed at us to try and deflect some sense of self doubt they have because we're doing well? Guess we're bragging somewhere in there.

BDA doing the damn thing as usual.

[ArumTP]

Got loot where BDA did not. Only BDA gets rustled over guilds teaming to kill stuff.

[arsenalpow]

To be fair, Rebbon is REALLY bad at RnF and isn't even keyed for VP.

[jcr4990]

I missed the part where we are bragging i guess

Will not happen, will stay Asgard, will continue drinking BDA tears, will send postcard from velious with all my new nTOV loot

Asgard and Forsaken took down lord Vyem (arguably toughest dragon in nToV). Rampage concede us time for an attempt after an unfortunate spawn situation, and then Asgard and Forsaken one shot'd the mob.

Now some BDA members appear to be forever mad and rustled that they are a tier 3 guild.

Rebbon perhaps rustled at the asgard/forsaken alliance getting ntov mobs and the only BDA got a messy ikitar?

Did u even read thread or? Seriously makes me LOL seeing people brag about getting targets with 3 guild alliance. Weird how you never really saw any bragging going on from those guilds individually.

WHOA WAIT A MINUTE. Guys I just had a brilliant idea. Hear me out this is gonna be great. How about we ally up BDA Taken Asgard Forsaken Divinity Europa Azure Guard Omni Clue Fires of Heaven and Kittens Who Say Meow and compete against Rampage? We'll show them who the best guild on P99 is! When we zerg our way to victory we can flock to RNF and tell everyone how good we are. It'll be glorious. Who's with me?

[Kagey]

I missed all the raids where asgard+taken are the same raid numbers as BDA... Cause we dont seem to be a consistent 50+ guild at this time.

This whole server is just a circle of playtime. Everyone has their turn at being 2nd & 3rd FTE guild. Ones at that point now will not be at that point forever, its just how it goes.

[Pheer]

Asgard and Forsaken took down lord Vyem (arguably toughest dragon in nToV).

wat

[Jfertal]

Spawn times have been shitty hours for a lot of mobs as of the late. Plenty of content to go around, velious has been fun so far

[Champion_Standing]

Guys I am massively rustled that 3 different guilds that weren't doing very well on their own decided to form Gimpatron 2.0 and is now bragging about being able to kill things.

Pls send help.

www.olganon.org

[Legday]

Did u even read thread or?

Like I said, you started this thread talking specifically about the success of 2-3 guilds teaming up being invalid. You call it bragging when we come here to defend it, and in the course of doing the success you tried to leave vague is talked about. Bragging is usually unprovoked or over the top. Kind of like everything you say.

It's like I'm being trolled or something.

[jcr4990]

Like I said, you started this thread talking specifically about the success of 2-3 guilds teaming up being invalid. You call it bragging when we come here to defend it, and in the course of doing the success you tried to leave vague is talked about. Bragging is usually unprovoked or over the top. Kind of like everything you say.

It's like I'm being trolled or something.
Well I didn't start the thread. Rebbon did and as has been discussed countless times in the past he's quite bad at RNF.

[Emsee]

BDA just doesn't get the fact that they are unable to monopolize, and like the rotation, guilds are not blind to their scumbaggery. This is why they are the ultimate fail, and will always be. Victim rhetoric one day, and elitist pricks the next only leads to one conclusion: guilds will do whatever is necessary to shit on you, BDA, as is deserved.

[Kagey]

BDA just doesn't get the fact that they are unable to monopolize, and like the rotation, guilds are not blind to their scumbaggery. This is why they are the ultimate fail, and will always be. Victim rhetoric one day, and elitist pricks the next only leads to one conclusion: guilds will do whatever is necessary to shit on you, BDA, as is deserved.


We accept that you all are angels. Pat yourself on the back, smell your farts & focus your nerd anger onto us. We love it.

[Pokesan]

You really ought to stop saying Gimpatron if you're losing everytime you clash with them

[Emsee]

^ code for: You shit on me and my guild, I have no retort, so here is some white noise.

[Relbaic]

Spawn times have been shitty hours for a lot of mobs as of the late. Plenty of content to go around, velious has been fun so far

Pretty much, we have a non existent morning crew. One day dragons won't spawn ass early in the morning and we'll put up a fight. Not super worried.

BDA sucks blah blah blah.

[Maner]

Pretty much, we have a non existent morning crew. One day dragons won't spawn ass early in the morning and we'll put up a fight. Not super worried.

BDA sucks blah blah blah.

Variance means this will never happen. 16 hour windows means part of it will always fall early or late pretty much.

[cicones]

Last Sunday, when Hate/Fear revamp was announced, BDA made it to PoFear first with strong force. Lost Dracho to Taken. Wiped to CT because they can't do the pull, called it quits and went for easier Inny.

There were no alliances there. Wait, scratch that. There was Azurd Guard some some smaller guild alliance there I believe. But nonetheless, big guilds like Taken and Rampage were just fine contesting with BDA. You guys just quit without even making an effort because you can't pull your own weight.

<3 BDA.

[arsenalpow]

Last Sunday, when Hate/Fear revamp was announced, BDA made it to PoFear first with strong force. Lost Dracho to Taken. Wiped to CT because they can't do the pull, called it quits and went for easier Inny.

There were no alliances there. Wait, scratch that. There was Azurd Guard some some smaller guild alliance there I believe. But nonetheless, big guilds like Taken and Rampage were just fine contesting with BDA. You guys just quit without even making an effort because you can't pull your own weight.

<3 BDA.

or we skipped CT because we didn't think we had the firepower for it, grabbed some golems, then moved to Hate and scored the server first Inny 2.0

But your story seems pretty good too

[Juevento]

What the fuck is wrong with you people?

[Relbaic]

What the fuck is wrong with you people?

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[captnamazing]

FAT alliance is gay

[fandAONgo]

nothing gayer than BDA

met some of those guys @ chardok ae

how can u be an elitist if youre in bda? do u not kno u suck

[captnamazing]

nothing gayer than BDA

met some of those guys @ chardok ae

how can u be an elitist if youre in bda? do u not kno u suck

how can you be elitist when you measure your self-worth by your dragon pixels on p99

[Pint]

There were offers from multiple guilds to do content, including Forsaken. It's gonna be winter for a long time, we'll get our kills at some point. Thanks for your interest.

Lol

[fandAONgo]

how can you be elitist when you measure your self-worth by your dragon pixels on p99

because im the best at what i do

[Kushie]

Truth is every guild has the same playerbase, we're all nerds clinging to a 15 year old game. We'd all get along if we were in the same guild. FAT alliance are just cunty to BDA because competition.

[fandAONgo]

nah BDA is gay keep that gay shit away from me dude

[captnamazing]

because im the best at what i do

who are you? i bet you're not really the best

[fandAONgo]

is that a fukn joke? i was the best blue raider of all time, played a gnome mage named houndstooth

now i am known as the best player on red99. go ahead and ask anyone on the red forums whos the best rogue on the server

dare u

[captnamazing]

Post your magelo

[Kushie]

u wot m8? i'll hook u in the gabber u cheeki dawg

[Jarnauga]

is that a fukn joke? i was the best blue raider of all time, played a gnome mage named houndstooth

now i am known as the best player on red99. go ahead and ask anyone on the red forums whos the best rogue on the server

dare u

relevant: https://youtu.be/AG6oHF_NAPU

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Personally, I would like to see games accommodate merc guilds ^^ Small bands of überness that can help YOU tackle content normally out of reach... For a small fee ^^

Anyone remember Uber You?

[Pokesan]

is that a fukn joke? i was the best blue raider of all time, played a gnome mage named houndstooth

now i am known as the best player on red99. go ahead and ask anyone on the red forums whos the best rogue on the server

dare u

i met houndstooth one time. he got super butthurt at people using google to win a EQ trivia contest. then he left and everyone was happier for it.

welp, cya.

[Prismaticshop]

Bda is the big loser of current alliances.

1) getting wrecked by AT in kunark
2) getting wrecked by FAT / Rampinity in velious.

Could this have something to do with your attitude ? Look at what your crew of posters say in RnF, you guys look cocky, nerdy, idiotic and now whiny.

Might as well try rez <peace pipe> and try ally with them...

[captnamazing]

Could this have something to do with your attitude ? Look at what your crew of posters say in RnF, you guys look cocky, nerdy, idiotic and now whiny.

you're fucking terrible at this forum

[Prismaticshop]

you're fucking terrible at this forum

Pulled a sensitive string? I apologize mate.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Sigh. I almost feel like I should step in and give a PSA. Taking BDA rnf bait is like drinking antifreeze. You think it has to be ftw, cuz it tastes like fruit juice. But seriously.... oh never mind. Carry on. But some of you have much to learn about forumquest, I'll just leave it at that.
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[Ella`Ella]

There were offers from multiple guilds to do content, including Forsaken. It's gonna be winter for a long time, we'll get our kills at some point. Thanks for your interest.

No there weren't.

You got an offer from me to split a HoT session to avoid pulling over each other in a show of good faith (because you were just threatening to petition), starting the new content off on the right foot. Forsaken even offered to split loot and pulls; but you refused. Forsaken then went on to pull every single mob in a very generous HoT raid and were showered in pixels, while BDA played the victim, had their petitions ignored by the GMs that matter and your members were cuck'd back to Kael.

[arsenalpow]

No there weren't.

You got an offer from me to split a HoT session to avoid pulling over each other in a show of good faith (because you were just threatening to petition), starting the new content off on the right foot. Forsaken even offered to split loot and pulls; but you refused. Forsaken then went on to pull every single mob in a very generous HoT raid and were showered in pixels, while BDA played the victim, had their petitions ignored by the GMs that matter and your members were cuck'd back to Kael.

Don't make me go back and pull all the logs, i'm lazy and you're sad. It's a poor combination. The best part was that you were doing all the negotiating from red because you'd rather get those scheduled pixels instead of helping your pal Detoxx on blue.

That should really be the pitch to any blue player. Come to red, join Empire, kill anything you want anytime you want and maybe if you're bored go kill some guys in rags if they don't make it to a zoneline and plug first.

[maerilith]

I really REALLY didn't understand OP and I read it 3x and I write almost as bad as OP :(

[Ella`Ella]

Don't make me go back and pull all the logs, i'm lazy and you're sad. It's a poor combination. The best part was that you were doing all the negotiating from red because you'd rather get those scheduled pixels instead of helping your pal Detoxx on blue.

That should really be the pitch to any blue player. Come to red, join Empire, kill anything you want anytime you want and maybe if you're bored go kill some guys in rags if they don't make it to a zoneline and plug first.

What am I sad about? I've had best in slot everything for years while you're still not BiS in Kunark. When I quit playing blue over a year ago, I was piloting a juggernaut that dominated every single Class-C pixel.

Now, nearly best-in-slot, I'm enjoying experiencing all the endgame content of Velious without trains, petitions, alliances, drama, etc... with my perfectly cool and normal pals on red.

[andvarion]

Alliances are classic. On Cazic Thule, the top guilds of the Classic–PoP era were The Relentless (allied with Element of Darkness) and Shadowed Soul (allied with Divine Alliance). I never fully understood why they didn't just merge. But I liked the idea that perhaps they had some fundamental differences in the ways they carried themselves, yet the leaders were friends and so they always raided together.

At least I guess that's why it was the way it was.

[dafier]

I'm not mad about anything. Just ranting about how mergers would make your faces look better. That's all.

So many excuses and most of them aren't even funny, which makes this thread boring. Also, attempts to make me look bad are putting me asleep.

/drops mic

[Swish]

No there weren't.

You got an offer from me to split a HoT session to avoid pulling over each other in a show of good faith (because you were just threatening to petition), starting the new content off on the right foot. Forsaken even offered to split loot and pulls; but you refused. Forsaken then went on to pull every single mob in a very generous HoT raid and were showered in pixels, while BDA played the victim, had their petitions ignored by the GMs that matter and your members were cuck'd back to Kael.

To be fair this is definitely the Chest mentality. Think Ella nailed it... logs can be adjusted so I wouldn't bother posting those.

[dafier]

To be fair this is definitely the Chest mentality. Think Ella nailed it... logs can be adjusted so I wouldn't bother posting those.

OK, I am back. The thing is Swish, they have already been posted. Forsaken's lawyerquester from Red was in on the negotiation. It's a weird situation.

[Swish]

I see, well I doubt there'll be any screenshots now but as an impartial observer I think its more likely BDA were throwing their toys out of the pram and playing the victim than anything else.

[Swish]

I mean, BDA playing the victim...after self destructing the Class R rotation and taking 1 in 3 of every dragon for themselves.

The double standards are real.

[JurisDictum]

Alliances are classic. On Cazic Thule, the top guilds of the Classic–PoP era were The Relentless (allied with Element of Darkness) and Shadowed Soul (allied with Divine Alliance). I never fully understood why they didn't just merge. But I liked the idea that perhaps they had some fundamental differences in the ways they carried themselves, yet the leaders were friends and so they always raided together.

At least I guess that's why it was the way it was.

Merging doesn't happen because a lot of these guilds have sophisticated dkp or other loot distribution systems that can't easily be merged. Wiping dkp is not an option either because it represents all the time people put into raiding. So a merge would be a bureaucratic nightmare. Not to mention there would be uncomfortable questions about who was really in charge. In these kinds of situations alliances make more sense.

[dafier]

Merging doesn't happen because a lot of these guilds have sophisticated dkp or other loot distribution systems that can't easily be merged. Wiping dkp is not an option either because it represents all the time people put into raiding. So a merge would be a bureaucratic nightmare. Not to mention there would be uncomfortable questions about who was really in charge. In these kinds of situations alliances make more sense.

You obviously were never in a merger that had managerial brains leading the former guilds. What you just explained is total chaos with no organization at all.

Now...considering the posts I've read from certain 'guild leaders', I can understand your point. :D

[JackFlash]

Alliances are classic. On Cazic Thule, the top guilds of the Classic–PoP era were The Relentless (allied with Element of Darkness) and Shadowed Soul (allied with Divine Alliance). I never fully understood why they didn't just merge. But I liked the idea that perhaps they had some fundamental differences in the ways they carried themselves, yet the leaders were friends and so they always raided together.

At least I guess that's why it was the way it was.

I think I still have the old CT ToV rotation agreements from somewhere. It was wordy but it worked for us!

[iruinedyourday]

hi!

if youre on blue and you're competing you cray

hehe

just hold hands and make a virtual list that you can make reservations for at work on wednesday the 14th and arrive at thursday the 28th at 6pm to take your window while the wife & kids are camping & bonding without you!

http://i.imgur.com/4UL1hMk.png

[andvarion]

I think I still have the old CT ToV rotation agreements from somewhere. It was wordy but it worked for us!

Nice, were you in one of those guilds?

[Bill Tetley]

Now, nearly best-in-slot, I'm enjoying experiencing all the endgame content of Velious without trains, petitions, alliances, drama, etc... with my perfectly cool and normal pals on red.

Aka... without competition. Impressive!

[Ella`Ella]

I see, well I doubt there'll be any screenshots now but as an impartial observer I think its more likely BDA were throwing their toys out of the pram and playing the victim than anything else.

Note:
Chest was bitching about petitioning Forsaken in tells with Detoxx.
Forsaken was in HoT over an hour before the first BDA zoned in.
Chest claimed that because he had scheduled this raid with his own guild a week in advanced, that HoT is now rightfully their zone. (Chest tried this bullshit defense once before in Plane of Fear, which resulted poorly for him)
I was killing mobs uncontested on red in ToV. Pras.


http://i62.tinypic.com/2cn6rvc.jpg

[dafier]

Note:
http://i62.tinypic.com/2cn6rvc.jpg

What's funny, your perception. Actually it's not. There was an attempt to talk to Chest. Then because person 1 failed, they went and cried to person 2 on red, so person 2 decided to intervene. That conversation didn't change Chest's mind.

Now you /cry everywhere and call Chest names and bitch because person 1 couldn't get their way. Q fucking Q

See it how you will, it simply makes you look really childish and stupid. Here is another childish and stupid remark you've made in the past (see below). Seriously, what is wrong with you?

Cloki,

You wanna team up for all Trak's going forward, split teeth 50/50 and lock down VP on BDA? Can split up VP loot either on a joint Loot Council or /ran for first pick.

[Ella`Ella]

Offer still stands, Cloki!

[dafier]

Check that thread where you originally wrote that. Notice you never got a response?

LMAO

[iruinedyourday]

Aka... without competition. Impressive!

lets jsut be clear about one thing:

This is what group "competition" looks like on blue:

http://i.imgur.com/VLiscX2.gif

this is what it looks like on red:

http://i.imgur.com/eewakfB.gif

Raid "competition" on Blue:

http://i.imgur.com/f6VCuYA.gif

Actual competition on Red:

http://i.imgur.com/mORKdvo.gif

There is no "competition" on blue.

[arsenalpow]

http://i62.tinypic.com/2cn6rvc.jpg

And then Forsaken left HoT after they didn't get any more mobs. The end.

I gave Detoxx an opportunity to start a line of credit despite his history and he declined.

Be better at negotiating. Hoku showered Anichek with a Z heart as a gesture of goodwill and friendship.

[Seltius]

Note:
Chest was bitching about petitioning Forsaken in tells with Detoxx.
Forsaken was in HoT over an hour before the first BDA zoned in.
Chest claimed that because he had scheduled this raid with his own guild a week in advanced, that HoT is now rightfully their zone. (Chest tried this bullshit defense once before in Plane of Fear, which resulted poorly for him)
I was killing mobs uncontested on red in ToV. Pras.


http://i62.tinypic.com/2cn6rvc.jpg

Anyone else find this pretty pathetic with all the talk of credit and lines of credit? I feel like im reading the script for a hack line of credit infomercial. Chest chestbeating from a position of weakness doesn't work man.

[iruinedyourday]

lets jsut be clear about one thing:

This is what group "competition" looks like on blue:

http://i.imgur.com/VLiscX2.gif

this is what it looks like on red:

http://i.imgur.com/eewakfB.gif

Raid "competition" on Blue:

http://i.imgur.com/f6VCuYA.gif

Actual competition on Red:

http://i.imgur.com/mORKdvo.gif

There is no "competition" on blue.

Ah I see we have another SS of what BLUE considers "Compeition".. Ill add it to this list:

http://i62.tinypic.com/2cn6rvc.jpg

[Seltius]

Oh I stand corrected confused Forsaken with Rampage been too long away from blue.

*opens mouth inserts foot*

The rest of my comment about the lines of credit crap stands. Are you one of those people that calls me on the phone and tells me they have an exciting offer for me??

[Nibblewitz]

Don't just try red. Stay there.

[Ella`Ella]

And then Forsaken killed every single mob in HoT while BDA trained themselves twice. The end.

[Emjaye]

Anyone else find this pretty pathetic with all the talk of credit and lines of credit? I feel like im reading the script for a hack line of credit infomercial. Chest chestbeating from a position of weakness doesn't work man.

All I see is Detoxx begging Chest to breastfeed forsaken while he laughs in their face.

[fandAONgo]

i met houndstooth one time. he got super butthurt at people using google to win a EQ trivia contest. then he left and everyone was happier for it.

welp, cya.

shit still rustles me just thinking about it

[Juevento]

What is this thread even about?

[arsenalpow]

What would you say is the percentage of people in Empire TS that have you muted?

I'll set the over/under at 24.9%

[fandAONgo]

jueventoa unbrella or me?

[arsenalpow]

jueventoa unbrella or me?

You. Sorry, missed the quote. Also I heard Unbrella isn't even really active on red lately either.

[fandAONgo]

are u keeping up on red politics? i guess there is only 20 of us u gotta keep count on

rumor is unbrella feelin nostalgic & wants to rejoin BDA

and id say atleast 33% at all times

[Ella`Ella]

You. Sorry, missed the quote. Also I heard Unbrella isn't even really active on red lately either.

Haven't played red in ~1month and sure as hell haven't played blue. Work picked up a lot and trying to find a balance.

Fandango, miss u kid.

[captnamazing]

I have to admit, this thread is doing a fantastic job keeping me disgusted with p99... saving my life y'all!

[iruinedyourday]

What would you say is the percentage of people in Empire TS that have you muted?

I'll set the over/under at 24.9%

That still isn't as close to as the percentage of FQ'ers that have you on ignore tho.

[Greengrocer 2.0]

is arsenalpal chest?

[contemptor]

is arsenalpal chest?
Make sure you capitalize it when referring to Chest.

[JboxCSU]

http://i62.tinypic.com/2cn6rvc.jpg

/boggle

[iruinedyourday]

I heard chest masturbates in front of a mirror.

[Champion_Standing]

I heard chest masturbates in front of a mirror.

That's weird all around, who told you and how did they find out?

[iruinedyourday]

It was in a 15 hr long cross server /tell conversation negotiating who was going to farm what in which zone.

Blue "competition" is fun!

[captnamazing]

Unbrella, why would you approach chest with diplomatic matters? You should know better than that!

[Greengrocer 2.0]

Hi chest

[Rization]

Lol look at the nerds raging over their 1999 loot. You all suck ass at every other video game so you're stuck on this one that requires 0 skill. Nerds.

[Troubled]

Lol look at the nerds raging over their 1999 loot. You all suck ass at every other video game so you're stuck on this one that requires 0 skill. Nerds.

gr8 b8. Try another board where the quality of trolls is lower for more practice.

[Verath]

Lol look at the nerds raging over their 1999 loot. You all suck ass at every other video game so you're stuck on this one that requires 0 skill. Nerds.

Troll or nor this assessment is spot on. Call if duty takes more skill than classic EQ.

[captnamazing]

Troll or nor this assessment is spot on. Call if duty takes more skill than classic EQ.
excuse me sir I have spent over 400 hrs of /played time perfecting my auto attack capabilities

[Ciroco]

I practice finger bends so I can kick all your asses at Scout turnins

[fiveeauxfour]

this fucking thread
http://img.pandawhale.com/post-30824-Jack-Nicholson-Creepy-Nodding-SRXv.gif

[Whirled]

excuse me sir I have spent over 400 hrs of /played time perfecting my auto attack capabilities

THIS^, on a tshirt
or a mug, bumper stickers still a thing?
where's that resume that was posted on forum somewhere?

[Swish]

THIS^, on a tshirt
or a mug, bumper stickers still a thing?
where's that resume that was posted on forum somewhere?

I wouldnt be seen outside of a Friday Night Magic event wearing that kek

[Whirled]

I wouldnt be seen outside of a Friday Night Magic event wearing that kek
I don't know what this means so I'll just nod & go about my business. Have a great day! :D

[Swish]

I don't know what this means so I'll just nod & go about my business. Have a great day! :D

oh yeah me either, i know this guy who's a bit of a nerd who was with me at the time and he said that would make a good post :rolleyes:

[maerilith]

The point is this is a game. You play. With other people. Provided by other people. How you play that game is up to you. You're perfectly free to come bitch on these boards about how other people play that game or try to convince them to play a different way.

But none of that is anything you need permission from me to do.

Because this is MURICA!!!!!!!

FUCK YEAH.