BDA loot distribution?

[Spyder73]

So, I have a legitimate question about BDA. I am aware of at least 3 incidents now and am curious to what is going on. So when you get tired of wiping and finally leave BDA, are you expected to give all your raid loot back back? Someone in game told me that the guild makes you sign a contract of some kind and then when you leave you have to give all your loot back.....why do players not tell BDA to fuck off and keep their raid loot? I don't understand how this is enforceable or why the guild would even want to enforce this.

P.S. Kekephee is gay and fat

[Swish]

They never kicked the "drunk" guy (www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=201325) who tried to move in on that Lower Guk camp.

Still accepting any warm body who is happy to wait for months for their first loot piece, recruitment never closes.

That sums them up imo.

[Peekayyoo]

Noone is going from BDA to Asgard. I don't think you have to worry about this.

[Troxx]

I don't see how such a rule would be enforcable.

Regardless, even if such a rule exists I don't see why it concerns anybody not in BDA. Their guild, their rules.

[arsenalpow]

So, I have a legitimate question about BDA. I am aware of at least 3 incidents now and am curious to what is going on. So when you get tired of wiping and finally leave BDA, are you expected to give all your raid loot back back? Someone in game told me that the guild makes you sign a contract of some kind and then when you leave you have to give all your loot back.....why do players not tell BDA to fuck off and keep their raid loot? I don't understand how this is enforceable or why the guild would even want to enforce this.

P.S. Kekephee is gay and fat

Usually we have a skype interview with the app so we can visually witness their signature on the contract, but ya everything you wrote is 100% factually correct, especially the Kekephee part.

[quido]

BDA is full of miserable people.

[Jfertal]

Only peasants ask for droppables.

[Kekephee]

There is no such thing as BDA anymore. It has been replaced with Suitors of Grumphilda. Please change the title of this thread to reflect

[dafier]

Since Sirkin is on the BDA payroll, Chest has him remove certain items, well whatever Chest deems.

Example:

I have my epic. So in order to torture me, Sirkin would remove the spell out of my spell book, then place Element of Fire, Water and Wind in my bank along with Broom, shovel and Dirt of the Underfoot. The only thing I would be missing would be the Staff which Sirkin would make it to where if my character ever touched a Staff of Elemental Mastery: Earth again, it would turn instantly in to a cracked staff.

On another note:

All people who leave BDA have their characters turned in to gnomes the instant the tag comes off. TRUTH!

[arsenalpow]

Yes, Sirkin.

[Monty405]

Whens BDA moving to red 99?

[Swish]

Hard to move a roster that size to new pastures, plus nobody from current red guilds would put up with their bullshit to want to switch to them.

[dafier]

It would boost Red population by 3 times. And Empire wouldn't be much of an Empire anymore :(

[dafier]

Yes, Sirkin.

Mine speel gud nao. Mine have cafee

[Relbaic]

P.S. Kekephee is gay and fat

[Kekephee]

For your information, I am far from fat. I have been an amateur weightlifter, martial artist, and gymnast my whole life. I can do forty pushups in a row. I will post a youtube video of myself doing pushups to prove it

[Spyder73]

So BDA does not ask for loot back fom members that leave? That's what I'm seeing by all the sarcastic remarks?

[Aeaolena]

When I see a post like this (100% true btw!). I smell fear...



Have you been seeing all BDA's (highly appreciated) clerics walking around decked out in gear?
http://i.imgur.com/Sn3VHgU.jpg

Don't worry, son.

You know, the best way to keep your clerics from hopping ship to BDA is to treat them right. Ah, wait.. no loot council kinda makes that hard, huh?


Oh well.
Are you a Cleric?
Is your shit guild not giving you the props and appreciation you deserve?

Fuck those guys. Join BDA:
http://www.bregandaerth.net/index.php
(Don't click this link. Your guild will know!)

[Kekephee]

So BDA does not ask for loot back fom members that leave? That's what I'm seeing by all the sarcastic remarks?

BDA doesn't "ask" for anything. BDA fucking GETS

[Ella`Ella]

For your information, I am far from fat. I have been an amateur weightlifter, martial artist, and gymnast my whole life. I can do forty pushups in a row. I will post a youtube video of myself doing pushups to prove it

I can do 102. I won a Plantronics head-set from a push-up contest at PAX East; Nerds.

I also imagine you look very similar to your avatar.

[Swish]

So BDA does not ask for loot back fom members that leave? That's what I'm seeing by all the sarcastic remarks?

Well, if you have to do 2-3 months of raiding to see a piece of loot you should be able to keep it, right?

[Anichek]

I get all my loot without being online, or from other guilds.

[dafier]

I can do 102. I won a Plantronics head-set from a push-up contest at PAX East; Nerds.

I also imagine you look very similar to your avatar.

Remember that time when no one replied to your offer?

I do. :D

[arsenalpow]

So BDA does not ask for loot back fom members that leave? That's what I'm seeing by all the sarcastic remarks?

If you want an actual honest answer I can give you one but I don't think RnF is the place for that.

[dafier]

I get all my loot without being online, or from other guilds.

Before the comma, I remember a specific case where this is true. :)

And, yes! Join BDA if you want to be surrounded by warmth, pixels and the WWE way.

[arsenalpow]

I get all my loot without being online, or from other guilds.

This is also true. Anichek has been offline for his encyclopedia, slimeblood, and VP soulwell stick.

[Spyder73]

Lots of not answering the question going on here. I ask because a friend of mine bought white scales and someone in BDA was claiming it as guild property because the guy who sold had left the guild. There was also the infamous dragon bag incident. So is this contract crap a real thing or just nerds saying shit?

[Kekephee]

Oh shit, our guild bank- the only person in the guild who physically holds white scales- left the guild!!!

[dafier]

had left the guild

Not left....kicked and who knows if they have an account anymore. Just to clear that up.

[Nibblewitz]

Person ninja-loots white scales from BDA, then sells them to Asgard.

Fucking scum.

[Spyder73]

Return the 450k and I can get them back for you

[Kekephee]

Person ninja-loots white scales from BDA, then sells them to Asgard.

Fucking scum.

Ohhh, we're talking about that dude.


Naw man, those were definitely guild property because the guy who sold them was an app who ninja'd them. There's zero question on this one.

[Troubled]

When I was an officer I had drawn up a legal binding contract that would rope anyone into doing what I wanted when they signed on as a new member.


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[Legday]

I've heard of this happening with an Incarnadine BP when somebody left BDA. They won the roll or however it was awarded while doing Royals, left guild, had to give back the BP.

This 3rd or 4th hand information though.

[dafier]

Return the 450k and I can get them back for you

Returning 450k that you bought (RMT), wouldn't be wise. Someone might find out.

[Ella`Ella]

Lots of not answering the question going on here. I ask because a friend of mine bought white scales and someone in BDA was claiming it as guild property because the guy who sold had left the guild. There was also the infamous dragon bag incident. So is this contract crap a real thing or just nerds saying shit?

There is also the case of the Eye of Innoruuk that BDA gave to Slydexx. Slydexx had the eye for over a year before leaving BDA to join a far more superior guild. Slydexx then MQ'd the eye to a necro in the new guild and BDA began to demand the eye be returned.

[Aeaolena]

I ask because a friend of mine bought white scales and someone in BDA

White scale ninja'd at Gore raid. GM's Contacted.

GM gives logs to Chest. Logs say new Trial Member (on Trial 2 days), Ninja'd Scale.

Dumbass Trial Member denies it.

GM's logs say otherwise. Shithead kicked.

Why someone would spend hours leveling up a rogue to 59 only to flush their server reputation down the drain is beyond me. Huge dumbass.

[dafier]

Huge dumbass.

Kekephee

[Chokan]

White scale ninja'd at Gore raid. GM's Contacted.

GM gives logs to Chest. Logs say new Trial Member (on Trial 2 days), Ninja'd Scale.

Dumbass Trial Member denies it.

GM's logs say otherwise. Shithead kicked.

Why someone would spend hours leveling up a rogue to 59 only to flush their server reputation down the drain is beyond me. Huge dumbass.

How can their rep be trashed if no one mentions his name? Name and shame!

[Troubled]

How can their rep be trashed if no one mentions his name? Name and shame!

Skarry

[Aeaolena]

How can their rep be trashed if no one mentions his name? Name and shame!

The server gossips. All the major guilds already know who to avoid tagging. EQ just isn't the type of game where you can pull shit like this without consequence. /shrug

[dafier]

There is also the case of the Eye of Innoruuk that BDA gave to Slydexx. Slydexx had the eye for over a year before leaving BDA to join a far more superior guild. Slydexx then MQ'd the eye to a necro in the new guild and BDA began to demand the eye be returned.

http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac317/Yakko_warner_2010/772dabf0bdcb549d_Friday13th_zpsgbrggnes.gif

[contemptor]

There is also the case of the Eye of Innoruuk that BDA gave to Slydexx. Slydexx had the eye for over a year before leaving BDA to join a far more superior guild. Slydexx then MQ'd the eye to a necro in the new guild and BDA began to demand the eye be returned.
The eye was never given to him, but he was allowed to use until needed for an epic. But you already know this.

[contemptor]

How can their rep be trashed if no one mentions his name? Name and shame!
We need written permission from Chest before providing this sort of information

[Spyder73]

The eye was never given to him, but he was allowed to use until needed for an epic. But you already know this.

So this is what I'm talking about, BDA basically leases raid loot to its players?

[Aeaolena]

If by raid loot you mean a necro epic piece with stats on it. And by player you mean an [at the time] trusted officer.

[Ella`Ella]

So this is what I'm talking about, BDA basically leases raid loot to its players?

That is correct. I was awarded a silver loop for the cleric Sky earring years ago in BDA. When I left for another guild, they petitioned for months trying to have the item removed and the no-drop piece moved to Anthrax's alt.

[contemptor]

So this is what I'm talking about, BDA basically leases raid loot to its players?
Of course. Didn't you see Troubles contract?

Eyes are used for Necro epics so never awarded. Since they are useful in the interim for wizards, they would get loaned to a wizard in lieu of sitting in a bank while waiting to complete a necro epic.

[Kekephee]

So this is what I'm talking about, BDA basically leases raid loot to its players?

Literally since the beginning of Everquest I have seen guild drama where someone leaves the guild and refuses to return droppables. Every guild that has ever killed a dragon has had this argument with somebody. Boring.


Let's talk about your friend who RMT'd 500k platinum to buy a stolen white dragon scale

[Monty405]

RnF Forum questing is a lot like the velious expansion.

Should I post to gain BDA faction or whatever faction the rest of the server is on?

[Kekephee]

RnF Forum questing is a lot like the velious expansion.

Should I post to gain BDA faction or whatever faction the rest of the server is on?

lol

[Monty405]

RnF Forum questing is a lot like the velious expansion.

Should I post to gain BDA faction or whatever faction the rest of the server is on?

You post, "BDA is bad"
Your faction with BDA has gotten worse.
Your faction with Swish has gotten better.
Your faction with citizens of blue 99 has gotten better.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

BDA is basically the Church of Scientology of p99. Chest is Tom Cruise.

http://cdn.meme.am/instances2/500x/2771705.jpg

[Spyder73]

BDA is basically the Church of Scientology of p99. Chest is Tom Cruise.

http://cdn.meme.am/instances2/500x/2771705.jpg

This is the best
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CRbhE3GRiUE

[Anichek]

This is the best
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CRbhE3GRiUE

Fucking A+

[Champion_Standing]

Damn someone already jumped on that Scientology angle, gg

But its true they do sign a million year contract for their soul in BDA just like at Sea Org.

[arsenalpow]

Here's your straight shooter answer, believe what you want:

We only care about droppables that are a significant upgrade for other members of the guild. For example, some warrior got their HoT BP, they hand in their Cobalt BP (that was awarded to them at a BDA Trak kill) for redistribution. Or another example, we award a monk a CoF, he then upgrades to 41% haste so he hands back the CoF for redistribution. I'd like to think people that leave BDA would give back their relevant droppable loot but usually they just ghost, we don't really lose members to other guilds these days.

The goal is to improve the guild. I don't buy into the concept of loot being an award or trade for time invested allowing a player can then sell their old loot for personal profit. Again though, this is only really relevant for solid haste items, the good Kunark BP/legs, things of that nature. I can't even count the number of BCG awardees that handed down Brell's Girdles for the newer members. That's just how I think guilds should operate. We don't ever expect anyone to hand in their own personal loot, just stuff awarded through the guild.

Concerning particular instances: Slydexx was holding an eye for the guild until a necro needed it, he left to FE, when asked for the eye back he instead decided to MQ it. We eventually got an eye at some point down the line. Unbrella is lying about whatever he was saying, and that app of two days ninja'd the white scale and sold it to Oleris for 100k. That app was kicked. When the situation is resolved I'll release his name to the public so that y'all can cheer him for sticking it to BDA.

[dafier]

You post, "BDA is bad"
Your faction with BDA could not possibly get worse.
Your faction with Swish has gotten better.
Your faction with citizens of blue 99 has gotten better.

Corrected that for you. Go from max ally to ....that.

[Spyder73]

TLDR Filbus is a pedophile.

[Champion_Standing]

Here's your straight shooter answer, believe what you want:

We only care about droppables that are a significant upgrade for other members of the guild. For example, some warrior got their HoT BP, they hand in their Cobalt BP (that was awarded to them at a BDA Trak kill) for redistribution. Or another example, we award a monk a CoF, he then upgrades to 41% haste so he hands back the CoF for redistribution. I'd like to think people that leave BDA would give back their relevant droppable loot but usually they just ghost, we don't really lose members to other guilds these days.

The goal is to improve the guild. I don't buy into the concept of loot being an award or trade for time invested allowing a player can then sell their old loot for personal profit. Again though, this is only really relevant for solid haste items, the good Kunark BP/legs, things of that nature. I can't even count the number of BCG awardees that handed down Brell's Girdles for the newer members. That's just how I think guilds should operate. We don't ever expect anyone to hand in their own personal loot, just stuff awarded through the guild.

Concerning particular instances: Slydexx was holding an eye for the guild until a necro needed it, he left to FE, when asked for the eye back he instead decided to MQ it. We eventually got an eye at some point down the line. Unbrella is lying about whatever he was saying, and that app of two days ninja'd the white scale and sold it to Oleris for 100k. That app was kicked. When the situation is resolved I'll release his name to the public so that y'all can cheer him for sticking it to BDA.

Well I'm sold, where can I app?

[dafier]

Oops, forgot to add.

It's like live faction hits. If you are max ally to the dain, then kill him, I believe you go all the way down to Dubious.

It's pretty severe.
-------------------------------------

Regarding Chest's most recent post:

This is an absolutely wonderful way to run a guild. Everyone benefits! And when everyone benefits, new content can be tackled that much faster.

It is amazing being part of this type of process.

[dafier]

TLDR Filbus is a pedophile.

http://lolzepic.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/OMG-OMG-OMG-You-are-soooooooooooo-HOT%E2%80%A6NOT.jpg

[Champion_Standing]

Mmmm dem pits

[Aeaolena]

Regarding Chest's most recent post:

This is an absolutely wonderful way to run a guild. Everyone benefits! And when everyone benefits, new content can be tackled that much faster.

It is amazing being part of this type of process.

Yep. I agree. BDA has some genuinely cool people who look out for each other for the benefit of everyone. There's always people chatting in guild at all hours, asking how they can help, laughing and general shenanigans. It's one of the reasons I left being an officer in Omni to rejoin BDA. I had really missed the community.



..Rebbon wtf! Halfling female IRL?

[dafier]

..Rebbon wtf! Halfling female IRL?

Trying to go dramatic for a reponse to something dramatic.

[Oleris]

Here's your straight shooter answer, believe what you want:

We only care about droppables that are a significant upgrade for other members of the guild. For example, some warrior got their HoT BP, they hand in their Cobalt BP (that was awarded to them at a BDA Trak kill) for redistribution. Or another example, we award a monk a CoF, he then upgrades to 41% haste so he hands back the CoF for redistribution. I'd like to think people that leave BDA would give back their relevant droppable loot but usually they just ghost, we don't really lose members to other guilds these days.

The goal is to improve the guild. I don't buy into the concept of loot being an award or trade for time invested allowing a player can then sell their old loot for personal profit. Again though, this is only really relevant for solid haste items, the good Kunark BP/legs, things of that nature. I can't even count the number of BCG awardees that handed down Brell's Girdles for the newer members. That's just how I think guilds should operate. We don't ever expect anyone to hand in their own personal loot, just stuff awarded through the guild.

Concerning particular instances: Slydexx was holding an eye for the guild until a necro needed it, he left to FE, when asked for the eye back he instead decided to MQ it. We eventually got an eye at some point down the line. Unbrella is lying about whatever he was saying, and that app of two days ninja'd the white scale and sold it to Oleris for 100k. That app was kicked. When the situation is resolved I'll release his name to the public so that y'all can cheer him for sticking it to BDA.

ya gonna sell me the scale for 100k after I help you get it back? Anicheck said he'd advise you too :)

[arsenalpow]

The system is fine as a "you should do these things that benefit the guild".

But demanding items be returned and petitioning for their return is just as scummy as a ninja looter.

We've never petitioned anyone for leaving and not returning items, please refer to the "Unbrella is lying" corollary in my previous text wall.

We did petition the ninja looter though, obviously. There's plenty of precedence to get those white scales back. You don't loot corpses that aren't yours, period. I believe that's the Anthrax corollary.

[Aeaolena]

http://imgur.com/reUGmMc.png

4 posts

I guess we just found out what Umbrella's troll account was named. Will be funny to look back through the other posts he did today in context of who really wrote them.



Points for trying.

[arsenalpow]

Nah. Unbrella ain't scared to post under his real account.

[Greengrocer 2.0]

so wait... chest is actually a ginger?

ahhh man sorry chest! now it makes sense why you were so mad on reddit.

[Spyder73]

The system is fine as a "you should do these things that benefit the guild".

But demanding items be returned and petitioning for their return is just as scummy as a ninja looter.

This

[Kekephee]

You guys don't petition ninja looters? Good to know, afk hanging around Asgard raids waiting for Forsaken to pull a mob to them and Taken to help them DPS it down

[Spyder73]

ya gonna sell me the scale for 100k after I help you get it back? Anicheck said he'd advise you too :)

Once you get back the 450k returned that you paid for them in the first place I would return the scales, until then, payment has not been satisfied and debts remain open.

[dafier]

You guys don't petition ninja looters? Good to know, afk hanging around Asgard raids waiting for Forsaken to pull a mob to them and Taken to help them DPS it down

HA!

[dafier]

They really should just merge already.

[Oleris]

Well, I am actually helping Chest get them back because it's the right thing to do. I just hope we can come to an agreement with me getting the scales and BDA getting 100k.

[Spyder73]

You guys don't petition ninja looters? Good to know, afk hanging around Asgard raids waiting for Forsaken to pull a mob to them and Taken to help them DPS it down

When's the next Faydedar sock for BDA? As long as I'm not in nToV with my alliance killing mobs, I would like to come observe what it looks like to have 86 raiders on a kunark dragon.

[arsenalpow]

When's the next Faydedar sock for BDA? As long as I'm not in nToV with my alliance asking for concessions to kill mobs, I would like to come observe what it looks like to have 86 raiders on a kunark dragon.

[jcr4990]

When's the next Faydedar sock for BDA? As long as I'm not in nToV with my alliance killing mobs, I would like to come observe what it looks like to have 86 raiders on a kunark dragon.
I..... I don't even know where to start. Is this guy bragging about multi guild zerging ntov bosses WHILE making fun of BDA for their "zerg" raids? I want to laugh but I was always taught it was wrong to laugh at the mentally disabled :(

P.S. I don't think I've seen more than 50 at a BDA raid since like week 2 Velious?

[arsenalpow]

I..... I don't even know where to start. Is this guy bragging about multi guild zerging ntov bosses WHILE making fun of BDA for their "zerg" raids? I want to laugh but I was always taught it was wrong to laugh at the mentally disabled :(

P.S. I don't think I've seen more than 50 at a BDA raid since like week 2 Velious?

That's doesn't fit the RnF narrative though. We're the biggest zerg on the server, we only kill Faydedar, and that's if we don't wipe in the process. Also, pixels attained are the only thing that matters regardless of raid composition, alliances, clickies used, etc. Doesn't matter, had sex.

[contemptor]

I..... I don't even know where to start. Is this guy bragging about multi guild zerging ntov bosses WHILE making fun of BDA for their "zerg" raids? I want to laugh but I was always taught it was wrong to laugh at the mentally disabled :(

P.S. I don't think I've seen more than 50 at a BDA raid since like week 2 Velious?
Lol, my thoughts.

We break 50, but at like 5pt of single target raids. I'd do the math but too lazy. Plus when we break 50 approximately half of those are druids

[Spyder73]

That's doesn't fit the RnF narrative though. We're the biggest zerg on the server, we only kill Faydedar, and that's if we don't wipe in the process. Also, pixels attained are the only thing that matters regardless of raid composition, alliances, clickies used, etc. Doesn't matter, had sex.

I want to continue trolling but you hit me in the giggle bone with this one, well played

[contemptor]

That's doesn't fit the RnF narrative though. We're the biggest zerg on the server, we only kill Faydedar, and that's if we don't wipe in the process. Also, pixels attained are the only thing that matters regardless of raid composition, alliances, clickies used, etc. Doesn't matter, had sex.
We've killed Fay what, twice since Vel or once? Dunno who kills him these days.

Poor druidz, need more water dragon shields.

[arsenalpow]

Slowscales offered every Druid 50k, plvling, and an epic to re-roll a cleric and every Druid gave him the finger.

[Oleris]

so wait... chest is actually a ginger?

ahhh man sorry chest! now it makes sense why you were so mad on reddit.

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/ae/ae4bf65c461a9507ba7f0c8c0c4855d6f8b681e195e0b7b44b 853ba183eb49a1.jpg

[SyanideGas]

Skarry

Hahahaha

[arsenalpow]

GDI it's strawberry blonde!

[Legday]

multi guild zerging ntov bosses

Zerging not a thing in NToV. The kills take skills.

[arsenalpow]

Zerging not a thing in NToV. The kills take skills.

Yes, tank mob with defensive, CH chain of whatever, healers stand somewhere to avoid the AE, dps either dodge the AE or take damage then get a heal in the caster hiding spot. This 16 year old game is so hard.

[Tycoon]

ya gonna sell me the scale for 100k after I help you get it back? Anicheck said he'd advise you too :)

LOL

[Legday]

No question the only really difficult part of end game raiding is managing 16 hour windows with a raid force ready to go and FTE...but don't be so vague and butthurt to say that lining up a tank swap with a chain between 2 vents is simple...these are the types of things that zerging doesn't solve.

The point remains that 50-70 players in NToV versus mobs with 300k hp is not a zerg you blowhards.

[dafier]

The point remains that 50-70 players in NToV versus mobs with 300k hp is not a zerg you blowhards.

Agreed

[zanderklocke]

Leasing items won at raids with the expectation of turning them back in if another upgrade has been earned later in the future. Call me greedy, but yuck.

[arsenalpow]

Leasing items won at raids with the expectation of turning them back in if another upgrade has been earned later in the future. Call me greedy, but yuck.

So you get a CoF from your guild, then later you get some 41% ToV haste. The CoF is your property to sell for personal funds? I'm not judging, just curious.

[dafier]

It's not leasing. Leasing implies there is payment for using it. It's borrowing or an item lent out.

[dafier]

Your brother has a riding lawn mower. You have a push mower and 3 acres of land to mow. You borrow your brothers riding mower for 3 days and then return it. Before your lawn has to be mowed again you obtain a riding mower of your own.

Sorta like that concept.

[dafier]

You lost your right arm, just above the elbow in the war. Your friend did as well. Your friend has a really nice mechanical arm and you have a hook.

You 'borrow' your friends arm until the VA spits out the money to give you a nice mechanical. Then you return your "friend's 2nd gen arm back"

[Spyder73]

If I win a CoF one day, and then I win Tear of Quellis the next, I would expect I could sell the CoF, pass to a friend, or if I wanted I could move to an alt....the last thing I would expect is Pint to petition a GM that I am stealing Asgard loot

[dafier]

If I win a CoF one day, and then I win Tear of Quellis the next, I would expect I could sell the CoF, pass to a friend, or if I wanted I could move to an alt....the last thing I would expect is Pint to petition a GM that I am stealing Asgard loot

Putting anything past Pint wouldn't be advised. Especially when it comes to killing OOAs OUT OF TURN! ZOMG! :eek:

[dafier]

So much angst bro. Totally would have fit your guilds modus operandi as of late, considering:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=214510.

Thanks for the honorable mention though!

I told you, you're not allowed to post in this forum...
Last warning.

Lovers quarrel?

[Jenithia]

What's so yucky about 2 people getting an upgrade instead of 1? Why is it so hard to think of your guild mates like family, boost each other up and invest in eachother? Seeing someone get an upgrade from an item recently returned is when you really see how good it makes everyone feel. It may not make people rich platwise, but every little boost in morale and stats helps us all. Aren't most guilds like that?

[Spyder73]

I get your point of help the guild and the guild will help you, but there is a difference between earning loot through raiding and having someone loan you a personal item.

That being said, you don't sell raid loot in Asgard either unless it's something from a non DKP event...so CoF is a bad example cause u can sell this and no one will care.

[Troubled]

What's so yucky about 2 people getting an upgrade instead of 1? Why is it so hard to think of your guild mates like family, boost each other up and invest in eachother? Seeing someone get an upgrade from an item recently returned is when you really see how good it makes everyone feel. It may not make people rich platwise, but every little boost in morale and stats helps us all. Aren't most guilds like that?

Pixels before pals.

[arsenalpow]

If I win a CoF one day, and then I win Tear of Quellis the next, I would expect I could sell the CoF, pass to a friend, or if I wanted I could move to an alt....the last thing I would expect is Pint to petition a GM that I am stealing Asgard loot

Do you really think we petition? People join BDA knowing our policies, when they are awarded the highly prized droppable item we let them know how we handle those items. If someone bitches about it they don't get the item (that never happens). If they leave BDA and keep the items it will piss us off but obv we have zero recourse (that rarely happens)

The process works great for us, a lot more mains have dragon haste, or solid BP/legs because of the policy. It helps the guild get stronger faster. Stratifying resources across one person's characters doesn't help the guild grow.

[arsenalpow]

I get your point of help the guild and the guild will help you, but there is a difference between earning loot through raiding and having someone loan you a personal item.

That being said, you don't sell raid loot in Asgard either unless it's something from a non DKP event...so CoF is a bad example cause u can sell this and no one will care.

Realistically the policy is very corner case. The best shit is no drop anyways.

[JboxCSU]

I fucking love BDA. Makes my work day way more exciting.

Keep up the good work!

[captnamazing]

http://i.imgur.com/vYYju6p.jpg

[Legday]

The way its done in Asgard is that if you get an upgrade to a dropable item won via DKP, you should (and this usually happens) give the old item to someone who can use it or to the guild bank.

The difference here is that if somebody leaves Asgard while wearing dropable DKP won loot, it's never, ever, asked to be returned.

This thread is riddled with bad examples, so for some reason we are talking about upgrades while still in guild.

[Valse]

We've killed Fay what, twice since Vel or once? Dunno who kills him these days.

Poor druidz, need more water dragon shields.

I hear taken has an alt forced camped specifically for this but gives the loot to florid out of respect of his awesome dkp.

[Kagey]

my cloak im sure was Filbus's.. and someone maybe before him.. And I will pass it on to someone who needs it when I get a 41haste..
What do I care about money on this server.. Slowscales is rich as fuck ill just borrow off him. And kagey is decked out already, thanks bda!

[dafier]

http://i.imgur.com/vYYju6p.jpg

That's what he gets for trying to leave!

[Kagey]

The way its done in Asgard is that if you get an upgrade to a dropable item won via DKP, you should (and this usually happens) give the old item to someone who can use it or to the guild bank.

The difference here is that if somebody leaves Asgard while wearing dropable DKP won loot, it's never, ever, asked to be returned.

This thread is riddled with bad examples, so for some reason we are talking about upgrades while still in guild.

difference is we don't need to ask, we don't recruit lootwhores.

[Legday]

difference is we don't need to ask, we don't recruit lootwhores.

Hate to break it to you but there are a ton of examples in this thread of you guys needing to ask.

I don't hate the policy, Im just saying that.....nevermind I hate the policy.

[dafier]

The items I've given back to the guild after winning them and passing them on, I've never experienced an officer saying:

/tell Rebbon Glorious sir, please allow us to have XXX pixels back since you are going to replace them with XXX pixels. Does this upset you?

[captnamazing]

ton of examples

"ton"

three

knowing basic math is uncommon amongst the Asgard population

[Legday]

The items I've given back to the guild after winning them and passing them on, I've never experienced an officer saying:

/tell Rebbon Glorious sir, please allow us to have XXX pixels back since you are going to replace them with XXX pixels. Does this upset you?

Yeah, like I said, we do that too.

[fiveeauxfour]

I win Tear of Quellis

ahahaha

i think tekilya is just testing the waters to see if bda couldnt get him a tear faster; he has been looking for one for quite a while. As a dps its like his most sought after item. If he bothered to put in any effort in his char to get a key he could probably snag some hosh boots faster, but who cares. Yo, i think bda's loot rules looked fine you should join them, tek, you would have a better shot at a tear there

[dafier]

Yeah, like I said, we do that too.

And that's cool. As far as I know, there is no asking for stuff back except for rare circumstances like the eye of inny thing.

The truth has already been written pages back regarding that.

[arsenalpow]

ahahaha

i think tekilya is just testing the waters to see if bda couldnt get him a tear faster; he has been looking for one for quite a while. As a dps its like his most sought after item. If he bothered to put in any effort in his char to get a key he could probably snag some hosh boots faster, but who cares. Yo, i think bda's loot rules looked fine you should join them, tek, you would have a better shot at a tear there

Nah we aren't going to sky anymore. If Hosh would stop spawning when everyone is at work we could work with that though.

[fiveeauxfour]

we don't recruit lootwhores.

there are absolutely 0 lootwhores in asgard....

[Mon Nov 02 11:07:32 2015] --You have looted a Robe of the Azure Sky.--
[Mon Nov 02 11:08:17 2015] --You have looted a Crown of Rile.--

[dafier]

[Mon Nov 02 11:07:32 2015] --You have looted a Robe of the Azure Sky.--
[Mon Nov 02 11:08:17 2015] --You have looted a Crown of Rile.--

Those are really nice items.

[Jarnauga]

This thread makes no sense.

Everybody knows that BDA never has loot to award since they get stomped every day by asgard/taken/forsaken.

[Spyder73]

This thread makes no sense.

Everybody knows that BDA never has loot to award since they get stomped every day by asgard/taken/forsaken.

Quote of the entire thread

And F U Florid <3

[Stormfists]

Juevento you kirked????

[Valse]

This thread makes no sense.

Everybody knows that BDA never has loot to award since they get stomped every day by asgard/taken/forsaken.

FAT also stomps BDA in unemployee dollars collected per month. Thanks obama.

[JboxCSU]

FAT also stomps BDA in unemployee dollars collected per month. Thanks obama.

SS or it didn't happen.

[scooter]

I miss slydexx

[Kekephee]

The way its done in Asgard is that if you get an upgrade to a dropable item won via DKP, you should (and this usually happens) give the old item to someone who can use it or to the guild bank.

The difference here is that if somebody leaves Asgard while wearing dropable DKP won loot, it's never, ever, asked to be returned.

This thread is riddled with bad examples, so for some reason we are talking about upgrades while still in guild.

You should get your DKP back when you return the droppable item, that's so greedy of the guild to just flush your DKP like that for an item you aren't using anymore

[zanderklocke]

So you get a CoF from your guild, then later you get some 41% ToV haste. The CoF is your property to sell for personal funds? I'm not judging, just curious.

If I spent my DKP I don't get back...then yes.

However, I joined the original A-Team when the guild allowed everyone to roll on all items...including epic MQs. The guild was small enough that everyone eventually got items due to luck, and we could use the item to sell and fund whatever we wanted. Sort of like a small batch of mercenaries. It was fun to show up to every raid because you never knew if you would get an item to fund your own character.

When A-Team went through a change due to the class system, you could bid DKP on items to buy them. This situation wouldn't make much sense for giving an item back to the guild...unless we gave DKP back, which wasn't a thing in our guild.

I guess I could see loot council forcing you to not really "own" your own items. However, I've never been in a guild that loot counciled droppable items and expected them back really. The only item I ever got in Rampage was the VP lute since I don't raid.

If I actually led my own guild, I'd probably do an open bid auction style DKP loot system, where guild members bid in chat like an auction after items dropped. If you won the item, you'd lose your DKP. However, you'd decide how much you really wanted to burn against other members. But hey, I don't run a guild or really play EQ, so it's all null anyway.

[captnamazing]

If I actually led my own guild, I'd probably do an open bid auction style DKP loot system, where guild members bid in chat like an auction after items dropped. If you won the item, you'd lose your DKP. However, you'd decide how much you really wanted to burn against other members. But hey, I don't run a guild or really play EQ, so it's all null anyway.

begs the question - why do you care

[zanderklocke]

begs the question - why do you care

I don't. I'm just engaging in conversation.

[jcr4990]

http://replygif.net/i/137.gif

How I feel every time my guild downs a raid target without assistance from other guilds

[Swish]

Well I just spent far too long catching up on the 11 pages I missed and I have to say it was entertaining watching Chest F5 all afternoon to try and spin/deflect all the shit people were talking lol.

I like how a guild that calls themselves "casual" has such a hardline stance on what should happen to acquired raid pixels.

[PlatLordlolz]

For your information, I am far from fat. I have been an amateur weightlifter, martial artist, and gymnast my whole life. I can do forty pushups in a row. I will post a youtube video of myself doing pushups to prove it

i caugh on to the sarcasm.. but, just saying 40 push ups on an army pft = fail

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Let's say you have a banjo. It's an ok banjo, but not the best. It was given to you by your younger brother who has spina bifida, who gave it to you because he wants to help you fulfill your dream of playing the banjo professionally someday.

One day, through hard work, you get a really good banjo while doing a gig down in Nashville, your dream gig.

Is the thesis of this thread, that fuck your younger brother with spina bifida, that old banjo is still yours?

Cold.

[Anichek]

This thread makes no sense.

Everybody knows that BDA never has loot to award since they get stomped every day by asgard/taken/forsaken.

Hey Jarn, Starie's back. You can stop going so hard now.

Time to stop crying?

[zanderklocke]

Let's say you have a banjo. It's an ok banjo, but not the best. It was given to you by your younger brother who has spina bifida, who gave it to you because he wants to help you fulfill your dream of playing the banjo professionally someday.

One day, through hard work, you get a really good banjo while doing a gig down in Nashville, your dream gig.

Is the thesis of this thread, that fuck your younger brother with spina bifida, that old banjo is still yours?

Cold.

So are you saying BDA has spina bifida?

No, but really, a better analogy would be to remove the illness and indicate that you and your brother earned the first banjo together.

[Kekephee]

Imagine you have a neighbor who's a mean old bastard and he owns a famous gold-plated banjo. You and your brothers decide to go over to his house and take it because he shot your dog. When you arrive, three of the special ed kids from your school are struggling to get into the house. They call you a retard and laugh at you for not having the banjo. You walk in through the front door, which is unlocked, and go to get it. But Chest is already there, and he's wearing a Darth Vader costume. He yells at you for a while. Not once during any of this do you even think about going to Red.

[Colgate]

ahahaha

i think tekilya is just testing the waters to see if bda couldnt get him a tear faster; he has been looking for one for quite a while. As a dps its like his most sought after item. If he bothered to put in any effort in his char to get a key he could probably snag some hosh boots faster, but who cares. Yo, i think bda's loot rules looked fine you should join them, tek, you would have a better shot at a tear there

am i the only person who thinks the monk sky haste belt sucks dick?

i would much rather use a runebranded girdle and rely on cloak of flames for haste

53 hp > 5% haste imo for a monk

[SyanideGas]

am i the only person who thinks the monk sky haste belt sucks dick?

i would much rather use a runebranded girdle and rely on cloak of flames for haste

53 hp > 5% haste imo for a monk

Can get on board with that

[arsenalpow]

Let's say you move to a new neighborhood, and you manage to make friends with a group of kids who play baseball, and then you all go on a series of funny and touching adventures. Then y'all run into trouble when you borrow a ball from his stepdad that gets hit over a fence.

[scooter]

Maybe we can make a vacuum contraption with an erector set to sneak into the pocket of the ninja looter and retrieve our dragon scales.
sand lot great movie

[Pokesan]

Let's say you move to a new neighborhood, and you manage to make friends with a group of kids who play baseball, and then you all go on a series of funny and touching adventures. Then y'all run into trouble when you borrow a ball from his stepdad that gets hit over a fence.

is this the plot to The Sandlot

lol

[zanderklocke]

am i the only person who thinks the monk sky haste belt sucks dick?

i would much rather use a runebranded girdle and rely on cloak of flames for haste

53 hp > 5% haste imo for a monk

I'm too lazy to run numbers on phone but isn't rbg+cof less hp than sky belt+hiero?

[Colgate]

no

[Adnan]

*sings* swish is a giant faggotttttt

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Imagine you have a neighbor who's a mean old bastard and he owns a famous gold-plated banjo. You and your brothers decide to go over to his house and take it because he shot your dog. When you arrive, three of the special ed kids from your school are struggling to get into the house. They call you a retard and laugh at you for not having the banjo. You walk in through the front door, which is unlocked, and go to get it. But Chest is already there, and he's wearing a Darth Vader costume. He yells at you for a while. Not once during any of this do you even think about going to Red.

The fact is, it has never been proven any of the officers of BDA shot our dogs, even though, to be honest, a lot of us lost dogs after we recruited. The fact remains we all got banjos, and we are not afraid to play them.

[Pokesan]

The fact is, it has never been proven any of the officers of BDA shot our dogs, even though, to be honest, a lot of us lost dogs after we recruited. The fact remains we all got banjos, and we are not afraid to play them.

I've never accused BDA of dog murdering - has Zanderlocke recently joined?

If so I will accuse BDA of that heinous act.

[zanderklocke]

I've never accused BDA of dog murdering - has Zanderlocke recently joined?

If so I will accuse BDA of that heinous act.

Oh you. Judgement on me putting down my dog who was blind with cataracts, could not smell, could hardly walk, and was incontinent.

"All I know is, when The Undertaker kidnapped Stephanie, he crossed a line. He may have a beef with Sadre, or Triple H, or Vince McMahon even, and that is fair game, but to bring Stephanie into this, when she had ZERO to do with ANYTHING AT ALL with the controversy over last week's grudge match between him and me, he has CROSSED A LINE."

[Pokesan]

Hm those sound like new, invented reasons.

In the original thread you explained it was because you moved to an apartment that didn't allow dogs.

[Man0warr]

am i the only person who thinks the monk sky haste belt sucks dick?

i would much rather use a runebranded girdle and rely on cloak of flames for haste

53 hp > 5% haste imo for a monk

Sky belt is free though. I mean doing sky for months/years until you get a Tear is definitely a cost but still.

[zanderklocke]

Hm those sound like new, invented reasons.

In the original thread you explained it was because you moved to an apartment that didn't allow dogs.

That was the state of my dog before I moved, so it didn't really even make sense to move him to a new home because he probably wouldn't have been able to handle it.

[Kekephee]

Let's go back to trolling about loot distribution, I feel like Zanderr's dead dog is really just a lot darker than we need to be getting here as we all have fun playing RnF and pretending to hate each other

[Swish]

*sings* swish is a giant faggotttttt

who are you? are BDA bux being issued for these kind of comments now? how sad.

[Tuljin]

who are you? are BDA bux being issued for these kind of comments now? how sad.

Swish is one of the few players remaining on this server with a spine that is willing to call a spade a spade, unlike the rest of you pixel addicts who have been gagged from saying anything because the hegemony of your guilds can completely stop pixel flow any time they want.

This server was nowhere near this fucking stupid a few years ago.

[Troubled]

Swish is one of the few players remaining on this server with a spine that is willing to call a spade a spade, unlike the rest of you pixel addicts who have been gagged from saying anything because the hegemony of your guilds can completely stop pixel flow any time they want.

This server was nowhere near this fucking stupid a few years ago.

Except he's not calling a spade a spade. He's mad his guild sucked shit and blames BDA for it for some weird reason. That's literally everything that fuels his rage.

[Nextwave]

If they ask for your Cloak of Flames back give them a Molten Cloak.

[Kekephee]

Swish is one of the few players remaining on this server with a spine that is willing to call a spade a spade, unlike the rest of you pixel addicts who have been gagged from saying anything because the hegemony of your guilds can completely stop pixel flow any time they want.

This server was nowhere near this fucking stupid a few years ago.

Hegemony of guilds? You do realize the end game of this server is basically Rampage, BDA, and an alliance of every guild but Rampage and BDA talking shit about BDA right? Swish is by no means special for talking shit about us, he's only special because he's the only person doing it who's never had a level 60 or raided a day in his life and has absolutely no idea what he's talking about

[Nibblewitz]

We need this fresh perspective of "Fuck BDA."

Keep it up Swish!

[Relbaic]

BDA also asks members that leave to return all the exp. they gained while in guild groups via Sacrifice and giving the guild Essence Emeralds.

[jcr4990]

Hegemony of guilds? You do realize the end game of this server is basically Rampage, BDA, and an alliance of every guild but Rampage and BDA talking shit about BDA right? Swish is by no means special for talking shit about us, he's only special because he's the only person doing it who's never had a level 60 or raided a day in his life and has absolutely no idea what he's talking about
Hahahah I've never seen it summed up better than this

[Troxx]

Except he's not calling a spade a spade. He's mad his guild sucked shit and blames BDA for it for some weird reason. That's literally everything that fuels his rage.

[Adnan]

Hegemony of guilds? You do realize the end game of this server is basically Rampage, BDA, and an alliance of every guild but Rampage and BDA talking shit about BDA right? Swish is by no means special for talking shit about us, he's only special because he's the only person doing it who's never had a level 60 or raided a day in his life and has absolutely no idea what he's talking about

hahahah swish faggot

[Swish]

It's quite impossible to drown out the idiotic comments from BDA members in this thread. If anyone is rustled here it's the people who continue to try and defend a guild with a reputation in the gutter.

I wouldn't be surprised if the BDA forums had a link to this thread complete with directions in what to say with spot prizes (of loot people were forced to hand back) for the best "Swish bash" comment.

When are you scrapping the BDA code of conduct? It says you're meant to act in a mature manner on the forums and in game - if you live by it there should be a half dozen guild removals in this thread at the very least. If you took that as serious as the (lengthy) official server rules you'd probably be forced to disband the guild.

[arsenalpow]

Didn't read.

[Pokesan]

It's quite impossible to drown out the idiotic comments from BDA members in this thread. If anyone is rustled here it's the people who continue to try and defend a guild with a reputation in the gutter.

I wouldn't be surprised if the BDA forums had a link to this thread complete with directions in what to say with spot prizes (of loot people were forced to hand back) for the best "Swish bash" comment.

When are you scrapping the BDA code of conduct? It says you're meant to act in a mature manner on the forums and in game - if you live by it there should be a half dozen guild removals in this thread at the very least. If you took that as serious as the (lengthy) official server rules you'd probably be forced to disband the guild.

Correct, BDA forum batphones are sent out with talking points ready to go. This is some serious effort for a simple message board.

I discovered their twitter headquarters through some serious searching in the darkweb, but I can't link it here as I would get banned for IRL doxxing.

stay aware

[Jfertal]

am i the only person who thinks the monk sky haste belt sucks dick?

i would much rather use a runebranded girdle and rely on cloak of flames for haste

53 hp > 5% haste imo for a monk

I liked the combo of rbg cof, but when i got sky belt i went to the sbc

My combo would definitely be something like rbg heiro hosh boots...

[jcr4990]

Correct, BDA forum batphones are sent out with talking points ready to go. This is some serious effort for a simple message board.

I discovered their twitter headquarters through some serious searching in the darkweb, but I can't link it here as I would get banned for IRL doxxing.

stay aware

Knew we had spies on our batphone

[arsenalpow]

I liked the combo of rbg cof, but when i got sky belt i went to the sbc

My combo would definitely be something like rbg heiro hosh boots...

Hosh boots, seb zerker, RBG is where I ended up. Can't be like the cool kids with doze cloak and dain belt

[Jfertal]

I would probably stick with the seb zerker also, just still a few more hp for that min max.

[Kekephee]

I heard back in the day if you left BDA, they would train you until you were deleveled to the point when you joined.

When petitioned, the staff would respond "justice demands retribution!".

Please "Justice Demands Retribution!" is our new motto Chest

[sirelothar]

Putting Swish on ignore is a highlight of my painful, awful P99 blue existence. Thank you for all the cool loot BDA!!

[Sweettouch]

I read 18 pages and that's the best you nerds can do?