Plane of Hate Revamp

[zanderklocke]

For someone who doesn't really play much anymore and doesn't really know much about the Plane of Hate revamp, what exactly are the changes aside from new named mobs?

The wiki has no information on this.

Who are the new named mobs, and who drops what now?

[Pyrocat]

I've heard all this second hand so I'm not 100% but...

Inny loot table revamped w/ lots of one-race-only gear.

Magi has chance to drop mage earth/fire staff for epic

Nameds have increased chance to drop BP of their class armor

Some nameds have chance to drop racial gear loot table from Inny

[Man0warr]

The door behind Inny on the 2nd floor is open and that whole area is full of new mobs that drop Plane of Growth equivalent armor for Rangers and Druids, plus some other junk.

All of Inny's old loot is distributed amongst new class mini-bosses that have 10 spawn points across the zone (that can be PHs) with 60-84hr respawn timers. Male Revenant mini-boss is supposed to drop the Earth Staff, Female Rev mini-boss drops Clarity clicky, etc

All 10 mini-bosses can drop Ranger/Necro epic piece.

[arsenalpow]

The stuff Pyrocat said, but it's a literal death trap as currently constructed. The additional mobs that were added on the second floor currently ignore all pathing nodes. They will aggro a 60 just walking around on the first floor, and fly through the ceiling and merc you. It also easily doubled the number of mobs in the zone. A lot more tedious of a clear.

[maestrom]

Also, Velious-era raid mobs were added on the 2nd floor.

Ranger, Druid, and Paladin armor sets on par with Plane of Growth armor sets were added.

Edit: I'm not sure that the male revenant is going to be dropping the earth staff. I believe, from several other threads, that the consensus is he didn't start dropping the earth staff until Luclin with the full Hate 2.0 revamp. The earth staff should be dropping off of Magi P`Tasa right now and will pending an update.

[Daldaen]

Changes on the first floor:

New minis, about 10 spawns. All drop 2-5 items.

2 Armors based on archetype
0-1 Inny class specific loots (weapons and stuff)
0-1 chance to drop Eye of Inny and/or SEoC.

Examples:

Master of Spite (spite golem named) - Drops 2 Shaman Armors (either Runed Etched or Nee Iksar Shaman stuff) + 0-1 Gardash or Tunarian Scimitar + 0-1 Eye of Inny and SEoC.

Lord of Ire (ghoul) - Shield of Immaculate
Magi P'Tsa (Revenant) - Mage Epic Staff
Ashenbone Broodmother (undead drake) - Necro Book
Grandmaster Rval (kiruakei) - Sode/Rakusha Cloak
Every Mini - Eye of Inny / SEoC

That's it as far as useful loot from Inny goes.

2nd floor:

Mobs of Inny are in the 53-56ish level range and high resistance (rapture to Mez and lure to nuke mostly). They aggro through the ceiling if you get halfway up the zone walls or if you get gravity fluxed up without a levitate on. The 2nd floor is accessed via the old Innoruuk room, a door opened up at the back of it (center of zone on 2nd floor basically). Which leads into the rest of the second floor which is just as expansive as the first.

Basically clearing the zone takes 2-3x longer now.

Every 5~ minutes or zone almost every mob on the 2nd floor shouts their praise to Inny. This is just some log spawn that may lag you temporarily, and cause you to shit yourself thinking they are aggro messages. Killing the Evangelist on the 2nd floor should stop them doing this (have yet to test).

There are some random named on 2nd floor, none drop anything special other than Inny and Corruptor of Life (paladin sword quest).

Knights - Paladin Armor (equivalent to PoGrowth armor)
Disciples - Druid Armor (equivalent to PoGrowth armor)
???? - Ranger Armor (equivalent to PoGrowth armor)

Beyond those drops, there are about 15 random items that can drop from trash. Most suck, but there's a few good ones. Druid belt with 20 MR, Pure Caster Range item with 75 HP/Mana, All/All crown with instant click ultravision, Bard shoulders with 50 HP and 6 to stats, 100 HP Paladin shield, 26/29 Knight 1HS, and a few other misc ones. But those are the highlights.

Maestro now spawns 2 reanimated hand models on death, 1 after the other. Both have a chance to drop warrior epic piece. Fight is more or less the same but his level go bumped up so corpse is 30min now.

Inny is in flux right now, we don't have the correct version. The correct version won't DT, max hit 401, will GFlux and will Phinigel style dispell the MT. This is to come soon. He currently drops 3 items from his Racial Items every time + 0-1 Eyes of Inny. The racial items are hit or miss. The Halfling, Half Elf items are 20 MR in a single slot. The DE neck is decent, same with gnome/high elf rings. On EQMac he would drop Shield of Immaculate as well, unsure if he is doing that here.

[Pyrocat]

knowledge bomb ^^^

[mropey]

Killing the Evangelist on the 2nd floor should stop them doing this (have yet to test).

It works.

[zanderklocke]

Half Elf mask is pretty darn nice for MR. http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=5338

What bard shoulders are now dropped in Hate?

[Man0warr]

Half Elf mask is pretty darn nice for MR. http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=5338

What bard shoulders are now dropped in Hate?

Songshawl - drops off sages I think, ignore what it says it drops off on Allakhazam (That's Hate 2.0).

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=5194

[Vallanor]

Pure Caster Range item with 75 HP/Mana

For serious? I knew about most of the items you mentioned but this is a new one. Do you have a link to it on ZAM by chance?

[Daldaen]

http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=2188

An Orb of Infinite Void for your range slot.

[Vallanor]

Wow! That's amazing. Thanks Daldaen.

[Daldaen]

100-200 trash kills up there, I've yet to see one drop.

Infact all I've seen has been Rogue cloaks (2-3), warrior masks (2-3), monk ring (1), ranger blade (2), knight blade (2), culler (1). Basically all the terrible drops.

[Erati]

100-200 trash kills up there, I've yet to see one drop.

Infact all I've seen has been Rogue cloaks (2-3), warrior masks (2-3), monk ring (1), ranger blade (2), knight blade (2), culler (1). Basically all the terrible drops.

+ 1 Ranger BP

[Vallanor]

The 27/29 knight blade is quite nice! Otherwise I tend to agree. We've seen a ranger BP and a couple of pally greaves which are quite excellent.

[maestrom]

I saw someone with a haubark of harmony a week ago or so.

[Sage Truthbearer]

Knights - Paladin Armor (equivalent to PoGrowth armor)


For anyone wondering, the Paladin stuff is called "Righteous Armor" armor and is dark blue.

[Nikkanu]

http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=2188

An Orb of Infinite Void for your range slot.

No iksar, useless for necros.

[Loke]

I know we all like to complain about annoying "classic" changes like the compass, but of all the changes that have been made I think Plane of Hate has to be the dumbest. Not the revamp, but how aggro works. Back in the early days of this server PoH actually functioned how the zone should. Walls actually acted like walls, and the zone wasnt a horribly buggy hell hole. I have no idea when it happened, or why it happened, and I suppose a buggy PoH is classic, but that zone actually used to be fun to do with a small group. Last time I was up there (admittedly a couple years ago) it seemed like taking a step in any direction would result in pulling half the zone.

[Daldaen]

No iksar, useless for necros.

I actually didn't notice that until you brought it up.

My Necromancer is sad now.

[Pyrocat]

I have no idea when it happened, or why it happened, and I suppose a buggy PoH is classic, but that zone actually used to be fun to do with a small group. Last time I was up there (admittedly a couple years ago) it seemed like taking a step in any direction would result in pulling half the zone.

Now that's the Plane of Hate I remember!

"STAY OFF THE FUCKING WALLS JESUS CAMP CAMP CAMP"

[Oleris]

here's a guide with loot and a map for the new plane of hate.

http://eqdiary.tripod.com/quests/hate.htm

[Erati]

here's a guide with loot and a map for the new plane of hate.

http://eqdiary.tripod.com/quests/hate.htm

Magi P'tasa 56 Eye of Innoruuk, Staff of Elemental Mastery: Earth, Apothic Boots, Apothic Crown, Apothic Gloves, Apothic Kilt, Apothic Robe, Apothic Sleeves, Apothic Warband

no Fire Staff listed HEHE

[Erati]

according to that guide tho - Inny has his old loot hmmm

I dont believe that should be true tho

[QFuzzle]

Hauberk of Harmony. Got it the day Fear/Hate revamp dropped.

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/663414684704333824/n5xt5BGp.jpg

[blondeattk]

this the same gfx as infestation, from DN ?

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=5381

[Pyrrhica]

this the same gfx as infestation, from DN ?

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=5381

Yes it is

[Izmael]

I know we all like to complain about annoying "classic" changes like the compass, but of all the changes that have been made I think Plane of Hate has to be the dumbest. Not the revamp, but how aggro works. Back in the early days of this server PoH actually functioned how the zone should. Walls actually acted like walls, and the zone wasnt a horribly buggy hell hole. I have no idea when it happened, or why it happened, and I suppose a buggy PoH is classic, but that zone actually used to be fun to do with a small group. Last time I was up there (admittedly a couple years ago) it seemed like taking a step in any direction would result in pulling half the zone.


You're supposed to *hate* this zone.

[Swish]

here's a guide with loot and a map for the new plane of hate.

http://eqdiary.tripod.com/quests/hate.htm

Can someone tell me what's different about the revamp? Not been in the new one but that map on there looks suspiciously identical to the old one? Same layout on the revamp?

Reuploaded the map on the link because Tripod hates hotlinking (like photobucket) :p

http://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2015/11/23/hateplane2.jpg

[Man0warr]

First floor is unchanged, except for a few mini spawn points.

The 2nd floor behind Inny's room is all opened now.

[Daldaen]

These are the drops. I'm interested to hear from other guilds whether you have seen some of these yet. I'm guessing Atleast one or two got missed in the update:

http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=2187
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=2188
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=2189
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=2190 - Confirmed
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=2191
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=2192 - Confirmed
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=2193 - Confirmed
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=2194
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=2195
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=2196
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=2197
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=2198
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=2199
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=2200 - Confirmed

Ranger Set - Part of Set Confirmed

http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31800 - Confirmed
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31801 - Confirmed
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31802
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31803
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31804
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31805
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31806

Druid Set - Part of Set Confirmed

http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31807
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31808
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31809
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31810
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31811
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31812
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31813

Paladin Set - Part of set Confirmed

http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31814
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31815
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31816
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31817
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31818
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31819
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31820 - Confirmed

http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31821 - Confirmed
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31822 - Confirmed
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31823 - Confirmed
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31824 - Confirmed

[Swish]

which part of the druid set is confirmed?

[Vallanor]

Can confirm paladin chest, legs, and bracers. I think we've seen ranger chest, arms, and bracers as well. We have definitely seen druid legs and arms too. Lots of other random drops on second floor.

[Culkasi]

Here is what we have seen so far;

Mantle of Study
Culler
Boots of the Righteous
Gauntlets of the Righteous
Vambraces of the Untamed
Gauntlets of the Untamed
Helm of the Untamed
Darkwar Mask
Raiment of the Chosen
Nightgrowth Blade
Legionnaire Scale Gauntlets
Cloak of the Assassin
Forging Hammer
Band of Discipline
Hauberk of Harmony
Wristguard of Harmony

[Daldaen]

http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=2187
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=2188
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=2189 - Confirmed (Vallanor)
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=2190 - Confirmed
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=2191 - Confirmed (Vallanor)
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=2192 - Confirmed
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=2193 - Confirmed
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=2194
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=2195 - Confirmed (Vallanor)
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=2196
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=2197
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=2198
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=2199
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=2200 - Confirmed

Ranger Set - Part of Set Confirmed

http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31800 - Confirmed
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31801 - Confirmed
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31802 - Confirmed (Vallanor)
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31803 - Confirmed (Vallanor)
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31804 - Confirmed (Culkasi)
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31805
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31806

Druid Set - Part of Set Confirmed

http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31807
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31808 - Confirmed (Culkasi)
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31809
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31810 - Confirmed (Culkasi)
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31811
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31812
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31813

Paladin Set - Part of set Confirmed

http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31814
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31815 - Confirmed (Vallanor)
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31816
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31817 - Confirmed (Vallanor)
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31818 - Confirmed (Culkasi)
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31819 - Confirmed (Vallanor)
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31820 - Confirmed

http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31821 - Confirmed
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31822 - Confirmed
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31823 - Confirmed
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31824 - Confirmed

I'm kind of surprised no Bard shawl, caster range, Druid belt, paladin shield or cleric ear have dropped yet. Those are basically the best random drops too.

[Synthlol]

I know we all like to complain about annoying "classic" changes like the compass, but of all the changes that have been made I think Plane of Hate has to be the dumbest. Not the revamp, but how aggro works. Back in the early days of this server PoH actually functioned how the zone should. Walls actually acted like walls, and the zone wasnt a horribly buggy hell hole. I have no idea when it happened, or why it happened, and I suppose a buggy PoH is classic, but that zone actually used to be fun to do with a small group. Last time I was up there (admittedly a couple years ago) it seemed like taking a step in any direction would result in pulling half the zone.

Line of sight is required for proximity aggro in zones that are flagged as dungeons. Line of sight is not required for proximity aggro in zones that are not flagged as dungeons.

Hate Plane is not flagged as a dungeon.

[Man0warr]

I'm kind of surprised no Bard shawl, caster range, Druid belt, paladin shield or cleric ear have dropped yet. Those are basically the best random drops too.

BDA hasn't gotten any of those either - they are either super rare or not implemented.

[Culkasi]

30/11

Varmbraces of Harmony
Greaves of the Untamed

Any chance you can add the names of the items missing? A bit easier to check vs DKP portal that way

Thanks :)

[Daldaen]

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=220397

See my first list. I've only inclined the non-armor set pieces for the time being. I wanted to allow a bit more time for the Armor sets to fall, since individual pieces from each set have been dropping. I figured entire sets would. But if after a few months a Druid wrist hasn't dropped then something may be amiss.

Looks like...

Paladin Helm (the Untamed)
Ranger Boots (the Righteous)
Druid Legs, Helm, Boots, Gloves (of Harmony)

Those are the pieces we've yet to see. Though we recently went up and I feel like we saw one of those maybe...

[Culkasi]

Ah sorry, didn't see you had made a new thread - sorry for bumping old one :)

[Colgate]

pretty sure we saw ranger boots on red the 1 time empire went up there

[Swish]

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=220397

See my first list. I've only inclined the non-armor set pieces for the time being. I wanted to allow a bit more time for the Armor sets to fall, since individual pieces from each set have been dropping. I figured entire sets would. But if after a few months a Druid wrist hasn't dropped then something may be amiss.

Looks like...

Paladin Helm (the Untamed)
Ranger Boots (the Righteous)
Druid Legs, Helm, Boots, Gloves (of Harmony)

Those are the pieces we've yet to see. Though we recently went up and I feel like we saw one of those maybe...

Is it hard to ask the devs? Surely Haynar or someone could tell us if we asked? I guess theres a love for speculative threads for their own sake, or to fluff ones feathers lol.

[Vallanor]

Is it hard to ask the devs? Surely Haynar or someone could tell us if we asked? I guess theres a love for speculative threads for their own sake, or to fluff ones feathers lol.

Daldaen linked to the actual bug post on the last page...

[Swish]

So the devs don't want to tell us? Seems hard to believe. Don't let me stop a great thread though where we dodge all the spoilers :) What fun :o

[Man0warr]

I'm sure drop values are stored server side, usually only Nilbog posts drop rates so I doubt Haynar has that access.