Look I'm screen dragging and I'm not warping client/server side?!?

[Drakaris]

Uploaded proof that my client does not behave the same way Colgate has falsely claimed in his video of the mass pvp.

Took me 10 minutes of my time to capture and upload, fucking time wasters....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk8gsN9fKz8

Enjoy....

PS: Colgate stop trolling staff into false suspensions you piece of shit.

[TacoSmasher]

super athletic, talented, and mad

[letsjoe]

you are really stupid

[nottitanuk]

is this retard serious lol?

[Terpuntine]

Thanks for confirming how seriously stupid you are. Enjoy your ban scum bag

[LostCause]

http://www.picgifs.com/reaction-gifs/reaction-gifs/o-rly-really-you-dont-say/o-rly006.gif

[Xaanka]

tbh i believe drakaris that he's not screen dragging. demonstration proves it without any doubt. if anyone should be put on blast for screendragging it's ragnaros lol

[Drakaris]

Soo demonstrating that my view freezes and my server connection remains active is banworthy?

Wow ok.

[Drakaris]

How exactly is that an exploit? What advantage did I gain in doing this? I got hit by mobs and couldn't move my character?

exploit
verb

1.
make full use of and derive benefit from (a resource).

2.
make use of (a situation) in a way considered unfair or underhand.

[Xaanka]

because they're trolling you. p much everyone with a pulse should know drakaris and other aus players have a tendency to warp. there's plenty of other people in friends who actually screen drag on a regular basis if it's really such a big issue.

[Xaanka]

shit doesn't work on my client either, on a US connection.

[Xaanka]

hell, even the levi trick won't work on my client.

[Terpuntine]

Everyones client locks up like that, all your video proves is what we've all been saying all along. That Drakar is a pure blooded idiot, enjoy your ban cheating scumbag.

[Uuruk]

I had to shut it off. I hate fucking Australians.

[Grimjaw]

because other players see your character running around and cannot melee you / cannot stick on you.

[Drakaris]

I'm not warping server-side, the mobs aren't chasing a ghost, they are standing there hitting my character.

Do I need to get my wife to play on another machine to watch what happens to the character and fraps that too?

Fucking time wasters.

[fiegi 8.0]

lolin

[Swish]

5*

[Uuruk]

I'm not warping server-side, the mobs aren't chasing a ghost, they are standing there hitting my character.

Do I need to get my wife to play on another machine to watch what happens to the character and fraps that too?

Fucking time wasters.

Enjoy your ban retard.

[Drakaris]

Ban for locking my in game screen?

FYI I know my character doesn't warp on other people's clients when this happens. It's all been tested and I'm 100% clean.

[Colgate]

saved this video to my harddrive and will be reuploading it to place into a new petition, no point in trying to remove it from youtube

you think you can log back onto red99 and screen drag again like this and get away with it?

not on my watch, scumbag

[AzzarTheGod]

I'm not warping server-side, the mobs aren't chasing a ghost, they are standing there hitting my character.

Do I need to get my wife to play on another machine to watch what happens to the character and fraps that too?

Fucking time wasters.

Should have admitted you were cheating your sack off all this time and that it was in the past.

All this proves is that you prepared again to screendrag again in the future at any time.

You're finished here dirtbag.

[fandAONgo]

LOL this is probably the best everquest video ive ever seen

that creepy fucking voice...the commentary...too good lol

so bitter

[Eslade]

there are no words to describe this

[Drakaris]

I proved that I don't do it because it gives me 0 advantage. If I cop a ban for this I'm going to upload another video showing that the character is stationary in game, which proves that screen dragging DOES NOT WORK on my client.

You guys are a bunch of fucking trolls...

[Drakaris]

Azzar posting IRL pics again, watch him be unpunished like all the other empire scum. LOL

[hammbone]

I proved that I don't do it because it gives me 0 advantage. If I cop a ban for this I'm going to upload another video showing that the character is stationary in game, which proves that screen dragging DOES NOT WORK on my client.

You guys are a bunch of fucking trolls...

are you going to box and fraps yourself using the box while you screen drag on the main?

[Drakaris]

are you going to box and fraps yourself using the box while you screen drag on the main?

No, why the fuck would I need to box? I'm not a loner dumbass.

[nottitanuk]

saved this video to my harddrive and will be reuploading it to place into a new petition, no point in trying to remove it from youtube

you think you can log back onto red99 and screen drag again like this and get away with it?

not on my watch, scumbag

lold

[Colgate]

? last i checked drakar is a regular 2boxer to give his shadowknight shaman buffs

[hammbone]

No, why the fuck would I need to box? I'm not a loner dumbass.

so your fraps can prove your main client stays still to other players

[Lu|zSect]

https://archive.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1391/08/1391081499659.png

[Samsung]

Jesus Christ Empire members acting like neanderthal's just stop.

[Colgate]

neanderthal's

[Drakaris]

? last i checked drakar is a regular 2boxer to give his shadowknight shaman buffs

Sorry I do shit with my family all the time. I shouldn't encourage my wife and son to play games with me when it was something I spent 20 hours a week doing. Tool.

[Samsung]

neanderthal's

I hate my phone. :(

[B4EQWASCOOL]

I hate my phone. :(

Ya, okay, motherfucker lol

[Huelath]

neanderthal's

yeah stop acting so neanderthallis'h

[Samsung]

My phone is SHIT.

[BardPop]

Drakar needs to stop self doxing and self slandering himself, seriously maybe you should find a new hobby.

[Bardalicious]

No offense, but your video doesn't actually show anything. Unless I'm mistaken about what screen dragging actually does (I've never tried it, so don't know for certain).

I thought the whole point was that when you start screen dragging, you DO stay physically put on your client, but that others watching you perceive you as continuing to run, but cannot hit you? If you're trying to maintain your innocence by posting proof, then you really do need to:

Get on VOIP with someone, record yourself at the same time they are recording you from their perspective, to see it happening at the same time from both points of view. But of course posting it here and not in a petition thread is pointless in any case.

Also, why does your voice cut out when you move your EQ window, out of curiosity?

[Redi]

I'm not warping server-side, the mobs aren't chasing a ghost, they are standing there hitting my character.

Do I need to get my wife to play on another machine to watch what happens to the character and fraps that too?

Fucking time wasters.

http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/shaq-laughing-press-conference-shaq-gifs.gif

[Lu|zSect]

"my wife"

g1

[Bazia]

does drakar still box the shaman that its i one spot in a zone hidden oor of pvp that he uses to buff/heal for pvp

[Bazia]

sits in*

[Colgate]

nah dude that's his "wife"

it's also his "wife" that spams me with tells calling me a toxic piece of shit every time it's logged in

[Efwan]

Drakar why do you keep doing this to yourself lol. Probably best you just stay off the forums

[Drakaris]

nah dude that's his "wife"

it's also his "wife" that spams me with tells calling me a toxic piece of shit every time it's logged in

You are a toxic piece of shit, there is no denying that. I wasn't screen dragging when you petition quested a suspension. My character never stood still the whole fight other than to cast and pell.

[Uuruk]

You are a toxic piece of shit, there is no denying that. I wasn't screen dragging when you petition quested a suspension. My character never stood still the whole fight other than to cast and pell.

Ok mr screen dragger. Enjoy that suspension.

[Drakaris]

That level 4 character that was used for demonstrating that empire lawyer quested a suspension to someone who's character was doing laps around a room without stopping will never be the same.

The character stopped moving and resumed for its original point, where in colgates video do I ghost off and continue running from the point I ghosted of at? You clowns are a fucking joke.

[Colgate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsIptZ5LCtQ

8:12

don't break the rules and you won't get suspended

it's a pretty simple concept

[Uuruk]

That level 4 character that was used for demonstrating that empire lawyer quested a suspension to someone who's character was doing laps around a room without stopping will never be the same.

The character stopped moving and resumed for its original point, where in colgates video do I ghost off and continue running from the point I ghosted of at? You clowns are a fucking joke.

Just stop screen dragging and take the suspension.

[Uuruk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsIptZ5LCtQ

8:12

don't break the rules and you won't get suspended

it's a pretty simple concept

Also CRIKEY MATE

[Drakaris]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsIptZ5LCtQ

8:12

don't break the rules and you won't get suspended

it's a pretty simple concept

Look at the speed my character resumes running at. Unless I had bard speed it looks like it is packet loss and the server was catching up. Look how fast my character is running you fucking dumbass.

[Drakaris]

And no I only had sow you fucking trashbag.

[Lu|zSect]

http://www.cornel1801.com/disney/Alice-Wonderland-1951/pictures/53.jpg

[Colgate]

so you're admitting to speedhacking also?

[Heebo]

Holy shit, Drakaris. Are you for reals?

[Drakaris]

so you're admitting to speedhacking also?

No it's called packet loss. Something between my client and the US stops responding and the network requests queue up, while I run around in game, then all the packets go through on your end it looks like my character has stopped running then resumes from where the character was last standing in fast forward as the packets catch up to real time.

You can apologise now for being a complete douchebag. I didn't fraps it because I didn't really think you guys would lawyerquest shit like this.

[Drakaris]

If you fail to see how it is latency related due to the run speed variation from before I lag out and after when the server and my client plays catch up then I can't do more. You guys are too stupid to reason with.

[Dillian]

both times when the screen stops though you move the mouse to the top of the screen. Just saying

[Drakaris]

both times when the screen stops though you move the mouse to the top of the screen. Just saying

Dillian that's a comparison to the pvp video. My client keeps sending packets to the server when I screen drag, which is the point I was trying to make.

[Dillian]

well i meant to say just before the screen locks the mouse gets moved to the top of the screen.

[Drakaris]

well i meant to say just before the screen locks the mouse gets moved to the top of the screen.

Yes please see colgates video that got me suspended. In no way does the behaviour in my video represent the behaviour in colgates.

[Lu|zSect]

http://www.cornel1801.com/disney/Alice-Wonderland-1951/pictures/53.jpg

[Dillian]

link so i dont have to search for it. just got home from work

[Colgate]

dude your video is you trying to juke a bunch of froglok tadpoles while screendragging and keyboard turning

the only thing that video proved is that you're a complete retard

[Drakaris]

dude your video is you trying to juke a bunch of froglok tadpoles while screendragging and keyboard turning

the only thing that video proved is that you're a complete retard

Oh ok... so according to you, I screen drag and use speed hax straight after screen dragging...

My video proves that my network connection remains active. My client is still in sync with the server.

In the mass pvp I was losing packets and it came to a point where my ping bar went up to 7-9% before restoring server sync, which was when you observed my character running into a fucking wall then running around fast forward when the latency caught back up.

[AzzarTheGod]

drakar looks extremely guilty in that video

pretty cut and dry

tbh i was giving him the benefit of the doubt because he's proven to be an honest, level-headed guy in the past. After seeing the video there is no doubt he is a habitual screen dragger and i'm glad justice was served

I have a fucking headache from trying to watch that Colgate PvP video.

Thats enough reason to warrant a suspension imo, packet loss or screen dragging, I am sure Colgate was also dizzy from the toxicity of Drakar's avatar.

I'd suspend him back to back.

[Drakaris]

I have a fucking headache from trying to watch that Colgate PvP video.

Thats enough reason to warrant a suspension imo, packet loss or screen dragging, I am sure Colgate was also dizzy from the toxicity of Drakar's avatar.

I'd suspend him back to back.

And that's the truth of it, suspended because I have an Australian ping/network connection.

[Lu|zSect]

http://www.cornel1801.com/disney/Alice-Wonderland-1951/pictures/53.jpg

[Redi]

http://static1.gamespot.com/uploads/original/1188/11888561/2673977-2957459054-HAHA-.gif

[Uuruk]

And that's the truth of it, suspended because I have an Australian ping/network connection.

Why do you care so much that you got suspended. You admitted you don't even play so how does this even matter?

[Drakaris]

Why do you care so much that you got suspended. You admitted you don't even play so how does this even matter?

Its the principal of it mate. I'm not a cheat.

[Lu|zSect]

http://www.cornel1801.com/disney/Alice-Wonderland-1951/pictures/53.jpg

[Uuruk]

Loli you are so fucking annoying. Literally only post memes and gifs.

[Kergan]

God damn it is good to have Lulz back.

[Lu|zSect]

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/942/235/838.jpg

[Uuruk]

God damn it is good to have Lulz back.

Won't be for long, getting my petition fired up.

[Lu|zSect]

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/700/938/434.png

[Genedin]

how long are you going to let this thread go before someone tells drakar that screen dragging doesn't work against NPCs

[hammbone]

how long are you going to let this thread go before someone tells drakar that screen dragging doesn't work against NPCs

shhh - wanted to see him catch himself boxing...

[Drakaris]

how long are you going to let this thread go before someone tells drakar that screen dragging doesn't work against NPCs

I've actually tested it and confirm it doesn't work on my client.

Basically I either have to stand in one spot when PVPing or fraps every single fucking pvp encounter or else I will be accused of screen dragging.

Look at the fucking run speed accelerate once the internet catches up with my client you dumbasses.

[Kergan]

Drakar you are making more of a case to ban all Australian players by default instead of getting yourself unbanned, fyi.

[Colgate]

you can be sure i'm gonna be recording every moment the character Skar is in zone with me

need to be prepared to catch this notorious cheater on film to protect myself

[TacoSmasher]

run wireshark during your next pvp session for prof

[BardPop]

That was pretty weird at 8:21, screendragging for sure.

[hammbone]

I've actually tested it and confirm it doesn't work on my client.



confirmed boxer

[Tassador]

Drakar you still logging in to check bodies on at Australian time for the report?

[Xaanka]

You can thank FEMINISM..for all of it. Hating, blaming, denigrating men fort the past 40 plus years. Chickens now coming home to roost. Its really suprising men havent totally thrown women under the bus completely..OOPS..they are starting to.

MGTOW = Google it.

[ravi]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsIptZ5LCtQ

8:12

don't break the rules and you won't get suspended

it's a pretty simple concept

Another good time to look at is 9:01 - 9:31

For someone that hates you colgate he sure does like to assist you in PvP.

[Xaanka]

I recently came across a New York Times article about shitty behaviors that our society often associates with the female gender. It’s about the stupid, catty, bitchy behavior that makes for an entertaining evening in a film like Bridesmaids, but that actually wastes an enormous amount of emotional energy and gives the female gender a bad name. The choice paragraph, in my opinion, is this one (emphasis mine):

There are two main theories of why women are competitive in indirectly aggressive ways. Evolutionary psychology, which uses natural selection to explain our modern behaviors, says that women need to protect themselves (read: their wombs) from physical harm, so indirect aggression keeps us safe while lowering the stock of other women. Feminist psychology chalks up this indirect aggression to internalizing the patriarchy. As Noam Shpancer writes in Psychology Today, “As women come to consider being prized by men their ultimate source of strength, worth, achievement and identity, they are compelled to battle other women for the prize.” In short: When our value is tied to the people who can impregnate us, we turn on each other.

“Indirect aggression” is the author’s more-polite term for passive aggression, and here’s what I take out of the article. I’ll withhold personal comment, so please don’t get offended just yet. From the article:

women, in a system where their value is attractiveness as assessed by men, work to undermine each other.
women generally prefer passive aggression over overt conflict.
women exhibit an especial and envious hatred toward highly attractive women, that is divorced from the reality of that person.
Is this true of “women”? Well, it’s true of some women, and not of others.

Now, I want to talk about these horrible patterns of behavior: passive-aggression, cattiness, sabotage, bitchiness. I’ve seen a lot of this stuff in my decade in the software career. And, here’s the thing… most of the worst offenders have been men.

In my personal opinion, malicious social aggressions are not especially gendered. Women may be two to three years ahead in this game during high school and college, because they’re farther along (in general) when it comes to social development, but corporate executives’ cattiness makes high-school cheerleader drama look innocent in comparison.

That humans perceive certain styles of aggression as being gendered is, however, telling. Stereotypically “male” aggression’s virtue is that it is short-lived and honest; its vice is that it’s brutal and often disproportionate (and if it leads to violence, its effects can be permanent). For a contrast, the “female” aggression has the virtue of precision, but the vice of being dishonest, long-lived, and cancerous. In reality, we observe all classes of aggression in all genders of people, so why do we have this need to create a gendered correlation? I think the answer is, and I’m going to have to define this word (lest it be useless) patriarchy.

What is patriarchy? I’m going to use it to mean a society in which women are largely blocked from holding official power, and in which male dominance (often backed by threat of physical harm, whether delivered personally or through a military) is the prevailing force in determining which men get power. A large number of men, for the record, lose in a truly patriarchal society, because the high-status men take the lion’s share of the rewards and sexual attention and the rest get very little. The extreme of patriarchy is a polygynous society in which high-status men are afforded large numbers of “wives”, most of whom experience the status of chattel slaves. Patriarchy is morally reprehensible and it is good that our society is beginning to reject it, but it’s important to acknowledge its probable normalcy in our evolutionary frame. Men are physically stronger than women, and humans are not naturally monogamous, and there is a general observed tendency in humans to desire to “possess” others, at least in terms of their sexuality. That this would lead to a world, speaking of most of human history, in which powerful men owning harems isn’t surprising. In that lens, it seems inevitable.

What is this supposedly “female” pattern of “indirect” social aggression all about? Well, it’s about polygynous patriarchy. In a monogamous society, children usually inherit the social status of the parents. If it’s a monogamous patriarchy, the status of the father will be weighted more heavily. In a polygynous patriarchy, the warlord or chieftain with 20 wives might have 150 children, so having a high-status father isn’t enough to confer social status to the children, because there are just too many alpha-brats to give that status and wealth to everyone. Often, the children with the best chance of inheriting the father’s wealth, status and connections are those born to the most favored wives. If a woman achieves that status, her children will be heirs, and the other womens’ children will be labelled bastards. Obviously, a woman who is in a harem has an evolutionary incentive to want to be that favored wife.

Passive aggression works well for a woman in a harem who is campaigning to become queen of the harem. Let’s consider how this contest works:

fitness or “performance” or “merit” will be judged by an owner who is largely distant from the day-to-day operations (e.g. division of labor) within the harem.
overt violence against a potentially superior competitor will be judged as destruction of the owner’s property, and punished. It will also fail to make the target appear less fit, from an evolutionary perspective.
however, emotional cruelty, abuses of power, and other “indirect” aggressions will cause a targeted competitor to become discouraged, stressed-out, or depressed, and therefore appear less healthy (that is, less fit) to the owner-husband.
What is an aspiring harem queen going to do? She can’t gain her status through physical dominance, as men in such societies often did, because provable harm to other women will cause her to lose favor with the man who ultimately selects the winner. Anyway, physical injury doesn’t make a woman look genetically unhealthy, and is therefore less likely to sway the opinion of the owner/husband (if we assume that he’s also acting under evolutionary imperative); while the long-term effect of emotional violence (and stress) will make the target appear sickly and suggest genetic inferiority.

In the modern world, harems mostly don’t exist. There is some harem-queen behavior in American high schools and colleges, related to the severe desirability differential between the men and the women at that age, and the intense competition (for women trying to attract the few unusually mature men) that this creates. 18-year-old women are physically attractive to men of all ages; 18-year-old men are attractive to… no one they can legally date. So I suspect there is some incentive for harem queen behavior, given how few desirable men there are in those ghettos for adolescents that we call schools. Of course, the men become more desirable and mature as they grow up, and the women seem to grow out of any harem-type behavior, and given that the teenage years are a period in which everyone’s pretty fucked up, I’m going to guess that the overall behavior of women isn’t any worse than that of men. The movies give us adolescent “mean girls” for entertainment’s sake, but I don’t think that such meanness is gendered.

Let’s jump away from adolescent drama (it’s not that interesting) and focus on the corporate world. The parallels are shocking.

corporate competitors strive for a “favored subordinate” status, because the odds, for a person not born into it, of joining the ownership class are only slightly better than those of a woman in the neolithic era becoming a man.
fitness or “performance” is judged by parties who are distant from the action and oblivious to day-to-day operations and any emotional or political drama that might be going on. They are about as capable of assessing individual merit as neolithic harem-owning men were at assessing genetic health among their wives.
like attractive women in pre-monogamous societies’ harems, people who threaten to out-perform the others draw undesirable attention and adversity within the harem. They’re sometimes singled out and set up to fail.
obvious interference with a potentially superior competitor’s performance (much less physical harm against that person) will push the perpetrator out of favor, as “The Company” will view that as damage to its own property.
non-obvious (from the owner’s perspective) interference or aggression toward a potentially superior competitor can degrade that person’s apparent performance and is therefore the weapon of choice.
Corporate executives can be understood, then, as successful harem queens. Under this lens, the entire corporate world makes sense. The CEO isn’t the alpha male, but the champion bitch.

So who’s the alpha male? Well, it’s arguably “The Company” or “shareholders” or rich people or “capital”. We’ve personified Mammon, and then gone a step further. We’ve created an alpha male more powerful than any actual human can be. As I’ve said before, that’s not a corporate “person” but a god. Worse yet, this alpha male isn’t one corporate “person”/god but the whole professional system, a supreme and supremely intangible meta-god among the myriad corrupt gods that our socioeconomic system has made. One could imagine, in a corrupt and slowly declining religious order, harem-queen behavior among the priesthood, and that’s basically what we have within the secular priesthood of corporatism. This kind of shitty behavior, clearly, was never limited to women. And now we have a society that runs on it.

Tyler Durden, in Fight Club, lamented that “We’re a generation of men raised by women”. Now, Fight Club was on to something. The male gender in the U.S. is failing and has been failing for some time. (It’s even worse in societies that are more thoroughly corporatized. Look up Japan’s salaryman culture and then read up on its hikikomori and “herbivore men”.) There is a toxic something in many advanced societies that has been emasculating men over the past forty years. But it is not that we were “raised by women” (I’ve seen neither evidence of declining paternal involvement, nor that increasing maternal influence is detrimental) and it’s not the fault of feminism. It’s the fault of corporatism. We’ve created a society that requires us to believe that our richest people are “alpha males”, when they are actually champion harem queens– preening private-sector social climbers. This has spawned a generation of men who are far too concerned with others’ opinions of them (and of the schools they went to, and of the jobs they held) and mostly unable to succeed on their own or think for themselves.

One might make the counterargument that the macho-subordinate “bro” culture that is observed in some corporate environments (such as most Silicon Valley startups) is, to the contrary of my argument, excessively masculine. Actually, it’s just stupidly masculine. There’s a lot of posturing going on in it, and women are justified to find that posturing threatening, but it’s just another form of the harem-queen game. The difference, in the young macho-subordinate culture, is whom these wannabe harem-queen men are whoring themselves out to. In the adult corporate world, their target is the amorphous nondescript alpha-male-figure (i.e. the invisible ultra-powerful humanoid that evolves into a god) known as “capital”. A seasoned corporate executive knows that his job isn’t to slut it up for a specific manager or CEO but to make himself maximally attractive to the system itself, and that system’s god persona is too aloof for it to be assigned a definite gender, so it does not suffice to appease one presumed aspect of it. Consequently, it demands an appearance that is bland, inoffensive, and neutrally toned. On the other hand, the macho-subordinate brogrammers haven’t figured out yet that they should focus on their attractiveness to a larger system rather than their immediate bosses. They’re still powdering themselves for the visual delight of, say, a 30-year-old and invariably male founder. This drives them not toward the manicured, soft-faced look of the corporate executive, but toward the absurdity of the frat boy who exhibits the worst traits of masculinity in caricature, but whose membership in such a pointless, groupthink-driven organization shows his desperate need for approval. Therefore, the macho-subordinate brogrammer culture of Silicon Valley does not refute my claim that corporate competition is a harem-queen dynamic; rather, it supports it.

Right now, the world is run mostly by cowardly, talentless, champion harem queens angling for approval from that invisible god we call “capital”. That’s unfortunate, and my view is that it has to end. In order to get this far, human society had to overcome many challenges, and it seems that the 21st century is destined to bring us more challenges (e.g. climate change, religious radicalism, economic inequality and petroleum depletion) and I don’t think that we can handle a single one of them with the business leadership that we’ve got. So who should be running the world? To be honest, there are some men whom I consider supremely qualified, and there are some women whom I consider supremely qualified. Gender, to me, is irrelevant. However, we need independent thinkers, and this means that the harem-queen world (for which, many of the worst offenders are men) has got to go.

[Kergan]

Not going to lie Xaanka, I'm not a real big fan of your posts.

god bless

[Uuruk]

He's improving. We had a one on one forum posting session in game the other day.

[Xaanka]

im gay

[hammbone]

I recently came across a New York Times article about shitty behaviors that our society often associates with the female gender. It’s about the stupid, catty, bitchy behavior that makes for an entertaining evening in a film like Bridesmaids, but that actually wastes an enormous amount of emotional energy and gives the female gender a bad name. The choice paragraph, in my opinion, is this one (emphasis mine):



“Indirect aggression” is the author’s more-polite term for passive aggression, and here’s what I take out of the article. I’ll withhold personal comment, so please don’t get offended just yet. From the article:

women, in a system where their value is attractiveness as assessed by men, work to undermine each other.
women generally prefer passive aggression over overt conflict.
women exhibit an especial and envious hatred toward highly attractive women, that is divorced from the reality of that person.
Is this true of “women”? Well, it’s true of some women, and not of others.

Now, I want to talk about these horrible patterns of behavior: passive-aggression, cattiness, sabotage, bitchiness. I’ve seen a lot of this stuff in my decade in the software career. And, here’s the thing… most of the worst offenders have been men.

In my personal opinion, malicious social aggressions are not especially gendered. Women may be two to three years ahead in this game during high school and college, because they’re farther along (in general) when it comes to social development, but corporate executives’ cattiness makes high-school cheerleader drama look innocent in comparison.

That humans perceive certain styles of aggression as being gendered is, however, telling. Stereotypically “male” aggression’s virtue is that it is short-lived and honest; its vice is that it’s brutal and often disproportionate (and if it leads to violence, its effects can be permanent). For a contrast, the “female” aggression has the virtue of precision, but the vice of being dishonest, long-lived, and cancerous. In reality, we observe all classes of aggression in all genders of people, so why do we have this need to create a gendered correlation? I think the answer is, and I’m going to have to define this word (lest it be useless) patriarchy.

What is patriarchy? I’m going to use it to mean a society in which women are largely blocked from holding official power, and in which male dominance (often backed by threat of physical harm, whether delivered personally or through a military) is the prevailing force in determining which men get power. A large number of men, for the record, lose in a truly patriarchal society, because the high-status men take the lion’s share of the rewards and sexual attention and the rest get very little. The extreme of patriarchy is a polygynous society in which high-status men are afforded large numbers of “wives”, most of whom experience the status of chattel slaves. Patriarchy is morally reprehensible and it is good that our society is beginning to reject it, but it’s important to acknowledge its probable normalcy in our evolutionary frame. Men are physically stronger than women, and humans are not naturally monogamous, and there is a general observed tendency in humans to desire to “possess” others, at least in terms of their sexuality. That this would lead to a world, speaking of most of human history, in which powerful men owning harems isn’t surprising. In that lens, it seems inevitable.

What is this supposedly “female” pattern of “indirect” social aggression all about? Well, it’s about polygynous patriarchy. In a monogamous society, children usually inherit the social status of the parents. If it’s a monogamous patriarchy, the status of the father will be weighted more heavily. In a polygynous patriarchy, the warlord or chieftain with 20 wives might have 150 children, so having a high-status father isn’t enough to confer social status to the children, because there are just too many alpha-brats to give that status and wealth to everyone. Often, the children with the best chance of inheriting the father’s wealth, status and connections are those born to the most favored wives. If a woman achieves that status, her children will be heirs, and the other womens’ children will be labelled bastards. Obviously, a woman who is in a harem has an evolutionary incentive to want to be that favored wife.

Passive aggression works well for a woman in a harem who is campaigning to become queen of the harem. Let’s consider how this contest works:

fitness or “performance” or “merit” will be judged by an owner who is largely distant from the day-to-day operations (e.g. division of labor) within the harem.
overt violence against a potentially superior competitor will be judged as destruction of the owner’s property, and punished. It will also fail to make the target appear less fit, from an evolutionary perspective.
however, emotional cruelty, abuses of power, and other “indirect” aggressions will cause a targeted competitor to become discouraged, stressed-out, or depressed, and therefore appear less healthy (that is, less fit) to the owner-husband.
What is an aspiring harem queen going to do? She can’t gain her status through physical dominance, as men in such societies often did, because provable harm to other women will cause her to lose favor with the man who ultimately selects the winner. Anyway, physical injury doesn’t make a woman look genetically unhealthy, and is therefore less likely to sway the opinion of the owner/husband (if we assume that he’s also acting under evolutionary imperative); while the long-term effect of emotional violence (and stress) will make the target appear sickly and suggest genetic inferiority.

In the modern world, harems mostly don’t exist. There is some harem-queen behavior in American high schools and colleges, related to the severe desirability differential between the men and the women at that age, and the intense competition (for women trying to attract the few unusually mature men) that this creates. 18-year-old women are physically attractive to men of all ages; 18-year-old men are attractive to… no one they can legally date. So I suspect there is some incentive for harem queen behavior, given how few desirable men there are in those ghettos for adolescents that we call schools. Of course, the men become more desirable and mature as they grow up, and the women seem to grow out of any harem-type behavior, and given that the teenage years are a period in which everyone’s pretty fucked up, I’m going to guess that the overall behavior of women isn’t any worse than that of men. The movies give us adolescent “mean girls” for entertainment’s sake, but I don’t think that such meanness is gendered.

Let’s jump away from adolescent drama (it’s not that interesting) and focus on the corporate world. The parallels are shocking.

corporate competitors strive for a “favored subordinate” status, because the odds, for a person not born into it, of joining the ownership class are only slightly better than those of a woman in the neolithic era becoming a man.
fitness or “performance” is judged by parties who are distant from the action and oblivious to day-to-day operations and any emotional or political drama that might be going on. They are about as capable of assessing individual merit as neolithic harem-owning men were at assessing genetic health among their wives.
like attractive women in pre-monogamous societies’ harems, people who threaten to out-perform the others draw undesirable attention and adversity within the harem. They’re sometimes singled out and set up to fail.
obvious interference with a potentially superior competitor’s performance (much less physical harm against that person) will push the perpetrator out of favor, as “The Company” will view that as damage to its own property.
non-obvious (from the owner’s perspective) interference or aggression toward a potentially superior competitor can degrade that person’s apparent performance and is therefore the weapon of choice.
Corporate executives can be understood, then, as successful harem queens. Under this lens, the entire corporate world makes sense. The CEO isn’t the alpha male, but the champion bitch.

So who’s the alpha male? Well, it’s arguably “The Company” or “shareholders” or rich people or “capital”. We’ve personified Mammon, and then gone a step further. We’ve created an alpha male more powerful than any actual human can be. As I’ve said before, that’s not a corporate “person” but a god. Worse yet, this alpha male isn’t one corporate “person”/god but the whole professional system, a supreme and supremely intangible meta-god among the myriad corrupt gods that our socioeconomic system has made. One could imagine, in a corrupt and slowly declining religious order, harem-queen behavior among the priesthood, and that’s basically what we have within the secular priesthood of corporatism. This kind of shitty behavior, clearly, was never limited to women. And now we have a society that runs on it.

Tyler Durden, in Fight Club, lamented that “We’re a generation of men raised by women”. Now, Fight Club was on to something. The male gender in the U.S. is failing and has been failing for some time. (It’s even worse in societies that are more thoroughly corporatized. Look up Japan’s salaryman culture and then read up on its hikikomori and “herbivore men”.) There is a toxic something in many advanced societies that has been emasculating men over the past forty years. But it is not that we were “raised by women” (I’ve seen neither evidence of declining paternal involvement, nor that increasing maternal influence is detrimental) and it’s not the fault of feminism. It’s the fault of corporatism. We’ve created a society that requires us to believe that our richest people are “alpha males”, when they are actually champion harem queens– preening private-sector social climbers. This has spawned a generation of men who are far too concerned with others’ opinions of them (and of the schools they went to, and of the jobs they held) and mostly unable to succeed on their own or think for themselves.

One might make the counterargument that the macho-subordinate “bro” culture that is observed in some corporate environments (such as most Silicon Valley startups) is, to the contrary of my argument, excessively masculine. Actually, it’s just stupidly masculine. There’s a lot of posturing going on in it, and women are justified to find that posturing threatening, but it’s just another form of the harem-queen game. The difference, in the young macho-subordinate culture, is whom these wannabe harem-queen men are whoring themselves out to. In the adult corporate world, their target is the amorphous nondescript alpha-male-figure (i.e. the invisible ultra-powerful humanoid that evolves into a god) known as “capital”. A seasoned corporate executive knows that his job isn’t to slut it up for a specific manager or CEO but to make himself maximally attractive to the system itself, and that system’s god persona is too aloof for it to be assigned a definite gender, so it does not suffice to appease one presumed aspect of it. Consequently, it demands an appearance that is bland, inoffensive, and neutrally toned. On the other hand, the macho-subordinate brogrammers haven’t figured out yet that they should focus on their attractiveness to a larger system rather than their immediate bosses. They’re still powdering themselves for the visual delight of, say, a 30-year-old and invariably male founder. This drives them not toward the manicured, soft-faced look of the corporate executive, but toward the absurdity of the frat boy who exhibits the worst traits of masculinity in caricature, but whose membership in such a pointless, groupthink-driven organization shows his desperate need for approval. Therefore, the macho-subordinate brogrammer culture of Silicon Valley does not refute my claim that corporate competition is a harem-queen dynamic; rather, it supports it.

Right now, the world is run mostly by cowardly, talentless, champion harem queens angling for approval from that invisible god we call “capital”. That’s unfortunate, and my view is that it has to end. In order to get this far, human society had to overcome many challenges, and it seems that the 21st century is destined to bring us more challenges (e.g. climate change, religious radicalism, economic inequality and petroleum depletion) and I don’t think that we can handle a single one of them with the business leadership that we’ve got. So who should be running the world? To be honest, there are some men whom I consider supremely qualified, and there are some women whom I consider supremely qualified. Gender, to me, is irrelevant. However, we need independent thinkers, and this means that the harem-queen world (for which, many of the worst offenders are men) has got to go.


damn dog, you falling off with this block of text... TLDR

[DRAGONBAIT]

wow @ the block of text


tldr : illuminatis fault

[quido]

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Did somebody say packets?

[Xaanka]

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Did somebody say hotpockets?

















































(my dinner every night)

[LostCause]

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[letsjoe]

you are really stupid

[Tassador]

I am cheating to show you that cheating doesn't work on my client and I warp naturally. Please never stop posting drakar.

[Tomm Selleck]

my reaction anytime drakar opens his mouth

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[iiNGloriouS]

my reaction anytime drakar opens his mouth

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Drakar: Most retarded poster? Check. Easiest to troll because of the stage 8 roorot in his brain? Check.

[Drakaris]

So I'm hearing insults left, right and centre, but no one has explained this:
1) Why did I lose server connectivity in Colgates video and not in my demonstration?
2) Why did my character accelerate to faster than Selo's speed when my character popped back in world? (So far the only explanation I got is a half-assed 'speed hax' response).

[Redi]

1) because you screen dragged
2) because you screen dragged

enjoy da susp

[Drakaris]

Because my client desynced in that pvp fight for a few seconds... my ping bar went into 7-8% black before recovering again...

[Lu|zSect]

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[Drakaris]

1) because you screen dragged
2) because you screen dragged

enjoy da susp

Screen dragging does not make you appear to run faster when the packets catch up douchebag. And I demonstrated that my client remains connected to the server.

[iruinedyourday]

it took you 3 months to come up with the idea for this terrible video?

[B4EQWASCOOL]

it took you 3 months to come up with the idea for this terrible video?

Took you 20+ years to amass all that fat?

[Redi]

Screen dragging does not make you appear to run faster when the packets catch up douchebag. And I demonstrated that my client remains connected to the server.

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[hammbone]

bro... u got issues

[miraclegrow2]

I didn't watch the video , but ive never seen anyone consistently make an ass of themselves literally every time they post for years.

I also did not read half the stupid shit in this thread, and I ponder why its 12 pages anyways.

Drakar'd

[Drakaris]

I didn't watch the video , but ive never seen anyone consistently make an ass of themselves literally every time they post for years.

I also did not read half the stupid shit in this thread, and I ponder why its 12 pages anyways.

Drakar'd

13 pages now. I don't see how screen dragging gives me an advantage in pvp since my character just stands in 1 spot when I do it.

[Magikarp]

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