Serious post about Bottrainer

[dafier]

Last night Bottrainer and I had a discussion.

Bot is in Taken guild.

There seems to be an underline sadness with him/her because the mage epic is very difficult to achieve.

Please post here to encourage Bot that Magi'Ptasa will soon drop the Earth staff and he will achieve his epic in a reasonable amount of time.

Also...

Bot brought up a very important fact about people who play mages. The list of issues with the class is as follows:

- At level 60 and having epic, everyone stops playing a mage because they are now worthless.

- Mages epic pets, and even normal pets aren't good for raids ever because the server pathing is crap

- Mages are COTH bots only

- Mages suck major *$(@ and are stupid

- The only point of playing a mage is to get an epic and do solo farming only.

Please please please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let Bottrainer know that Mages aren't worthless and that the epic will soon (after the patch or whatever to Magi) be achievable with less effort.

Also, throw a virtual hug his way.

Thank you for your time,

[dafier]

Secondly, if you think mages are worthless in raids and their pets are crap and they are for COTH and Rods only. It means only one thing. You do not know how to mage and shouldn't play the class like MANY MANY others on this server.

/hugs :D

[Herp]

Playing the victim card to acquire more loot sooner. He's been so oppressed. Common tactic.

[dafier]

Being distraught is not fun.... just feel bad for him.

[JurisDictum]

You didn't even mention mod rods....

Mages are turning into an alt CotH class for top raiding guilds, which sucks but its not too far off from classic. I wish I could say that they are at least a cool pvp class when raid geared. But they kind of suck compared to other raid geared classes.

[dafier]

Mage epic pet dps = Top raid geared Monk

Controlling your pet = possible

Valiant Companion works for 3 and a half minutes without issue.

Rain spells work better after the patch that didn't have them include your pet as a 'target'

The list goes on.....

Mages are just as good to have in a raid as a rogue and have more versatility.

[jcr4990]

I hope Botrainer ragequits forever

[Kushie]

Sweeni from Taken is a really good mage. I think a lot of mages just get discouraged and never fully learn their class.

[vaslentis]

Sweeni camped his magician in front of Yelinak's lair during his window, breaking the server rules.

Bottrainer disturbed people camping Ragefire with his pet positioning him so they can't hand-in their pearls.

So good players... Kthxbye

[rictus204]

I hope Botrainer ragequits forever

[Bazia]

who wants to play a mage in velious tbh

[JurisDictum]

who wants to play a mage in velious tbh

They're kind of cool in groups.

[thieros]

I hope Botrainer ragequits forever

[Cecily]

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=203175

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/PKMRgSHa8dM/maxresdefault.jpg

[Kekephee]

Today 10/17 - Botrainer on Borogue<asgard> during Batphone for more trackers and during batphone for spawn. stayed on asgard toon whole time.

Man, I forget sometimes that the whole "Asgard was a TMO alt guild" thing wasn't just an RnF, that it was actually true

[Sweettouch]

Man, I forget sometimes that the whole "Asgard was a TMO alt guild" thing wasn't just an RnF, that it was actually true

That never changed,they act just as bad as TMO did.Also why the fuck is Bottrainer still guilded?

[Swish]

Man, I forget sometimes that the whole "Asgard was a TMO alt guild" thing wasn't just an RnF, that it was actually true

Probably says something that TMO would rather have been alting in Asgard than BDA.

What reasons can you come up with?

I'm going to go with an overinflated roster of people with long pixel lines, the inability to complete the harder class epics ahead of people who have been waiting for years as full members, and the "loot council" which is quite the unsavory circlejerk to have to enter into to get noticed.

Your turn.

[sweeni]

mage is the best class ever =p

[arsenalpow]

mage is the best class ever =p

I need documentation to back this claim.

[maestrom]

I need documentation to back this claim.

Frost Mages are one of the best classes to farm Dire Maul East in vanilla.

[Thulack]

Pretty sure he has been complaining about mage epic going on a year+ now. There is no turning him back

[paroxysmal]

I quit during velious on my Mage on classic for all of the above reasons.

My guild had absolutely no interest in helping with Mage epic encounters had to tag along with other guilds doing them for other classes (ixblat).

I had to essentially luck out on a return to Velks for getting the clicky nuke boots.

Couldn't use Mage pets during raids due to pathing. Didn't matter how well you promised to control them answer was nope.

Everything in velious was impossible to land nukes on. I did the majority of my damage meleeing.

I was a coth bot for yelinak so couldn't even melee there just sit watch and help w/ CR.

I got discouraged and quit and I had Furor giving me pep talks.

Honestly best of luck to this dude.

[Swish]

I think my wizard died on red to an epic mage about 5 seconds after being engaged. OP as hell.

[Spyder73]

I think my wizard died on red to an epic mage about 5 seconds after being engaged. OP as hell.

This is due to you being a no talent hack who couldn't lift my jock strap with the help of ten men, not game mechanics

[JurisDictum]

Guilds are mostly characterized by their core leadership. TMO's core leadership is (almost entirely) on red. It was a massive guild -- that anyone who wanted raid loot in Kunark had to join.

So I hear a lot about guild x is TMO or guild y has mostly TMO...whatever. TMO is on red. The guilds here should be judged by their own actions -- not shit that went down 2 years ago under different leaders.

[Swish]

This is due to you being a no talent hack who couldn't lift my jock strap with the help of ten men, not game mechanics

Damn I've been sliced wide open by someone who tried red for under an hour.

Please sir, no more... I can't take the abuse :(

[Whirled]

http://dailypicdump.com/media/20141107/funny-ostrich-happy-smiling-door.jpg

Best of luck on acquiring what you need for your epic. Lmk if u need any help.

[falkun]

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=203175
does Botrainer even have his epic yet???
Four months later, the answer is apparently still no.

[Kayso]

I hope Botrainer ragequits forever

IRL even.

[arsenalpow]

I think my wizard died on red to an epic mage about 5 seconds after being engaged. OP as hell.

This is due to you being a no talent hack who couldn't lift my jock strap with the help of ten men, not game mechanics

Pretty much that. Pet classes are woefully underpowered in PvP. The epic pet definitely gets CCed like any other pet and mages don't get lures. Mages wreck kids in rags though.