View Full Version : Kurt Russell Gets It
Lurikeen
12-11-2015, 09:44 PM
Here is an article from the Blaze (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/12/10/actor-kurt-russell-fiercely-pushes-back-against-anti-gun-hollywood-interviewer-what-are-you-going-to-do-ban-everything/) reporting on an interview with actor Kurt Russell who gets it when it comes to gun control in the USA. Perhaps Russell's libertarian view is the way to go?
Swish
12-11-2015, 09:53 PM
more guns
more guns
more guns
Lurikeen
12-11-2015, 10:01 PM
more guns
more guns
more guns
I don't think he is saying "more guns." If I understand him correctly, he is saying "no additional gun controls."
Pokesan
12-11-2015, 10:02 PM
let's see here, quote by quote
some unrelated nonsense about terrorists
he's talking about hockey for some reason
bombs and knives are just as easy to kill with as guns
an actually excellent point about car violence. which he immediately followed up with "outlaw everything???"
something about disarming the victims
indignant over being disagreed with
it really speaks to what an idiot OP is, that he gives a single solitary fuck what snake plissken thinks
Lurikeen
12-11-2015, 10:04 PM
it really speaks to what an idiot OP is, that he gives a single solitary fuck what snake plissken thinks
I think you're out of line here. What? You don't care what Snake Plissken thinks? What kind of moron are you? Sheesh!
http://www.toonsup.com/users/t/teamgreatwhite/snake_plissken_111224_172448.jpg
James_Joyce
12-11-2015, 10:07 PM
you might as well be anti-gun if you're clueless enough to use this guy's arguments.
Gun rights have almost nothing to do with common criminals and terrorists, and everything to do with the system of checks and balances that they used to brag about when I was in public school. They still talk about that under Common Core, or do they just focus on empowering womyn & minorities and muh ongoing civil rights revolution march toward paradise?
These soft arguments only exist as an intermediary we'll be pumped with for a few generations before we're finally disarmed. Anyone who makes them is either arguing disingenuously or a telavivision puppet.
iruinedyourday
12-11-2015, 10:10 PM
Here is an article from the Blaze (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/12/10/actor-kurt-russell-fiercely-pushes-back-against-anti-gun-hollywood-interviewer-what-are-you-going-to-do-ban-everything/) reporting on an interview with actor Kurt Russell who gets it when it comes to gun control in the USA. Perhaps Russell's libertarian view is the way to go?
You and I could agree to disagree, like I do with Kurt Russel, if you weren't such a huge incredible asshole.
Lurikeen
12-11-2015, 10:14 PM
You and I could agree to disagree, like I do with Kurt Russel, if you weren't such a huge incredible asshole.
I guess you still need a hug. :( Well, go talk to your mom. She'll tell you what a winner you are. *High five!*
iruinedyourday
12-11-2015, 10:15 PM
I remember when you asked me some questions when you first started posting round these parts, and I was like oh cool sure, id love to share what I know about sanders with you
and you proceeded to just call me a communist.
Pokesan
12-11-2015, 10:16 PM
Lurikeen is Ranndom but without an interesting hook
Lurikeen
12-11-2015, 10:17 PM
I think snakes arguments are weak and overused.
I have to run... so won't respond immediately... but, don't you think he makes a good point with his quip that you can't "ban everything?" Even if you take away all the guns, wouldn't knives suffice as murder weapons? Or cars? I think his point is good... it is human nature to use tools to kill others. Can you ban human nature?
iruinedyourday
12-11-2015, 10:18 PM
I have to run... so won't respond immediately... but, don't you think he makes a good point with his quip that you can't "ban everything?" Even if you take away all the guns, wouldn't knives suffice as murder weapons? Or cars? I think his point is good... it is human nature to use tools to kill others. Can you ban human nature?
what are you going to do, put speedlimits on EVERY road? That'd be LOL!
Lurikeen
12-11-2015, 10:20 PM
I remember when you asked me some questions when you first started posting round these parts, and I was like oh cool sure, id love to share what I know about sanders with you
and you proceeded to just call me a communist.
Well no... if I remember right I called you something like "retarded communist" or maybe it was "idiot communist." Oh, wait, "moron communist" rings a bell. Oh, crap, sorry, I can't recall the exact words I used. :(
Need a hug? Sounds like your asshole is still stinging from our foreplay?
George_Costanza
12-11-2015, 10:21 PM
This guy's a washup, and civilians carrying arms is not a right.
The amendment talks about a "WELL-REGULATED MILITIA". We have one of those even without you having access to high-capacity assault clips for a mass shooting.
iruinedyourday
12-11-2015, 10:31 PM
Im still rolling at this idiot comparing cars and knives to guns as murder weapons.
iruinedyourday
12-11-2015, 10:36 PM
hes about to act as if there is zero regulation on cars at all.
this fuckn retard.
if we had to do one one thousandth the shit we had to do to own a car 100% of the anti gun liberal army would be satisfied.
fuckn retards i swear how do they turn on their computers. smh
sOurDieSel
12-12-2015, 03:10 AM
Why do we need guns?
Because people like IRYD want to take them away.
AzzarTheGod
12-12-2015, 03:39 AM
This guy's a washup, and civilians carrying arms is not a right.
The amendment talks about a "WELL-REGULATED MILITIA". We have one of those even without you having access to high-capacity assault clips for a mass shooting.
Most agree, including the supreme court, that the interpretation of militia in the context it was written is explicitly meant to mean not of the Fed.
Implement armed organized militias in the context as was intended in the full size and scope, and I'll gladly surrender a majority of my firearms and continue to enjoy the fruits of our Constitution without another word.
Pokesan
12-12-2015, 04:55 AM
Most agree, including the supreme court, that the interpretation of militia in the context it was written is explicitly meant to mean not of the Fed.
Implement armed organized militias in the context as was intended in the full size and scope, and I'll gladly surrender a majority of my firearms and continue to enjoy the fruits of our Constitution without another word.
hello cliven bundy
Thomas Paine
12-12-2015, 04:57 AM
It's all in the reflexes.
Whirled
12-12-2015, 07:36 AM
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Need more people like this guy^
not like these...
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George_Costanza
12-12-2015, 07:59 AM
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This bill is one the United States military already fits...lol.
You gun nuts don't care how many disadvantaged city people have to die for your stupid fantasies of beating ICBMs and Abrams with your grandpa's m1 garand, as long as the violence doesn't come to your lily-white safe zone. PRO TIP: the government isn't out to get you if you have nothing to hide, never has been.
Whirled
12-12-2015, 09:31 AM
The jerk store called...
Lurikeen
12-12-2015, 09:38 AM
This bill is one the United States military already fits...lol.
You gun nuts don't care how many disadvantaged city people have to die for your stupid fantasies of beating ICBMs and Abrams with your grandpa's m1 garand, as long as the violence doesn't come to your lily-white safe zone. PRO TIP: the government isn't out to get you if you have nothing to hide, never has been.
Your statement is about as silly as they come and demonstrates a deep, thoroughgoing, willful, ignorance on your part. People like you are the first to come running to us "gun nuts" when you have an evil person such as Syed Farook gunning down your family members. When it is your child laid out dead, in a pool of her own blood, you all of a sudden will become a "gun nut" too.
Orruar
12-12-2015, 09:41 AM
Your statement is about as silly as they come and demonstrates a deep, thoroughgoing, willful, ignorance on your part. People like you are the first to come running to us "gun nuts" when you have an evil person such as Syed Farook gunning down your family members. When it is your child laid out dead, in a pool of her own blood, you all of a sudden will become a "gun nut" too.
Nah, he'll blame his own white privilege and convince himself that he's somehow at fault for offending these Muslims so hard that they were forced to gun down the evil oppressive whites.
myriverse
12-12-2015, 11:24 AM
I don't think he is saying "more guns." If I understand him correctly, he is saying "no additional gun controls."
IOW.... "more guns."
myriverse
12-12-2015, 11:29 AM
Need more people like this guy^
In George Washington's day, only 14% of the male population owned guns. Why? Because one gun cost 2 months pay. And most of those guns were unusable. Why? Because they were improperly maintained. Even the ones that were usable were horrible for use. Why? Lousy accuracy and slow. Bows and arrows were still the best weapon.
jolanar
12-12-2015, 12:02 PM
If we can't enforce the gun laws we already have, doesn't seem like making new laws to make it harder to get guns is going to be the solution.
sOurDieSel
12-12-2015, 12:08 PM
I agree if armed rebellion was necessary gun laws wouldn't even be on the table or an issue. It's too easy to get a gun or any other deadly piece of equipment in this country.
I kind of feel that you should also need a licence to prepare food for public consumption or build something for someone.
Laws and restrictions if properly implemented won't stop people who actually need the tools for a livelihood for example in the northwest.
But there sure are a lot of dumb ass hicks with modded AR15's thinking it's legitimate to hunt small game with a 5.56 NATO FMJ round where I live :( And there is no game here bigger than a small dog. (small swamp dear)
What is a "modded" AR15 and what makes it more dangerous then a regular AR15?
.223/5.56 is a legal caliber to hunt deer and small game in my state. FMJ is illegal to hunt with in most states. Additionally .223 and 5.56 is a very small round, kinda like a .22LR on steroids if anything it is considered by most hunters to be UNDER-powered for big game hunting.
TL;DR Only a nutty liberal with a poor understanding of the 2nd Amendment and firearms in general would think a AR15 is overpowered to hunt small game with.
Lurikeen
12-12-2015, 12:10 PM
In George Washington's day, only 14% of the male population owned guns. Why? Because one gun cost 2 months pay. And most of those guns were unusable. Why? Because they were improperly maintained. Even the ones that were usable were horrible for use. Why? Lousy accuracy and slow. Bows and arrows were still the best weapon.
You might reconsider your source for those statistics which has been debunked by this paper. (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://scholarship.law.wm.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi%3Farticle%3D1489%26context%3Dwmlr&ved=0ahUKEwiEp66j2tbJAhXCKyYKHWzPBx0QFggbMAA&usg=AFQjCNFStVQS_wSaowi7_y9io8_N5bJDBA&sig2=vlMUY5OqMJ_NlZml7C5T8A) Gun ownership was more prevalent than what you claim.
sOurDieSel
12-12-2015, 12:17 PM
In George Washington's day, only 14% of the male population owned guns. Why? Because one gun cost 2 months pay. And most of those guns were unusable. Why? Because they were improperly maintained. Even the ones that were usable were horrible for use. Why? Lousy accuracy and slow. Bows and arrows were still the best weapon.
In colonial America the majority of households owned two firearms. One to take out hunting and another to fend off the attacking Indian Tribes. Almost every home was on the 'frontier' back then.
This guy's a washup, and civilians carrying arms is not a right.
The amendment talks about a "WELL-REGULATED MILITIA". We have one of those even without you having access to high-capacity assault clips for a mass shooting.
What is a Militia?
Lets take a look at The Militia Act of 1792, Passed May 8, 1792, providing federal standards for the organization of the Militia.
"I. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, That each and every free able-bodied white male citizen of the respective States, resident therein, who is or shall be of age of eighteen years, and under the age of forty-five years (except as is herein after excepted) shall severally and respectively be enrolled in the militia, by the Captain or Commanding Officer of the company, within whose bounds such citizen shall reside, and that within twelve months after the passing of this Act. And it shall at all time hereafter be the duty of every such Captain or Commanding Officer of a company, to enroll every such citizen as aforesaid, and also those who shall, from time to time, arrive at the age of 18 years, or being at the age of 18 years, and under the age of 45 years (except as before excepted) shall come to reside within his bounds; and shall without delay notify such citizen of the said enrollment, by the proper non-commissioned Officer of the company, by whom such notice may be proved. That every citizen, so enrolled and notified, shall, within six months thereafter, provide himself with a good musket or firelock, a sufficient bayonet and belt, two spare flints, and a knapsack, a pouch, with a box therein, to contain not less than twenty four cartridges, suited to the bore of his musket or firelock, each cartridge to contain a proper quantity of powder and ball; or with a good rifle, knapsack, shot-pouch, and powder-horn, twenty balls suited to the bore of his rifle, and a quarter of a pound of powder; and shall appear so armed, accoutred and provided, when called out to exercise or into service, except, that when called out on company days to exercise only, he may appear without a knapsack. That the commissioned Officers shall severally be armed with a sword or hanger, and espontoon; and that from and after five years from the passing of this Act, all muskets from arming the militia as is herein required, shall be of bores sufficient for balls of the eighteenth part of a pound; and every citizen so enrolled, and providing himself with the arms, ammunition and accoutrements, required as aforesaid, shall hold the same exempted from all suits, distresses, executions or sales, for debt or for the payment of taxes."
In essence, the Militia consists of "We the People."
Lurikeen
12-12-2015, 12:24 PM
No i went thru my states hunting courses and got liscened, nato rounds are shit for hunting, and especially with a AR 15 ment to spray and pray. The laws on the books make it illegal to be an asshat but that doesn't stop johnny reb from going out and spraying and praying without regard to whats downrange of their target, or even if they actually know what they are shooting at.
It would be better if they only allowed the use of approved buckshot rounds designed for hunting or similar rounds.
Then you have asshats doing shit like.
http://aattp.org/terrifying-new-bullet-designed-for-maximum-suffering-introducing-the-r-i-p/ which probably circumvents the FMJ laws.
The AR15 nato rounds were designed to wound and be dangerous as fuck, they teach soldiers to aim or the ground/feet to cause maximum carnage and richoches if needed. (Yeah, centermass and all that) but that doesn't always translate into what happens for real.
The AR15 might be acceptable as a competition weapon but it's a shitty weapon to be in the hands of civillian for any other reason and there's way better competition rifles.
Sadly I'm familiar with firearms :(
And .22 or 5.56 would be the last round I would want for self defense from a bear or boar, they'd most likely not notice being shot unless you hit an artery, richochete off bone and cause massive internal dmg, or hit the brain/heart.
When was the last time you went hunting and someone was "spraying and praying"? I've been a hunter over 30 years... I've shot guns since I was 12 years old... I've spent a considerable time in the woods, and I have yet to see someone "spraying and praying."
sOurDieSel
12-12-2015, 12:28 PM
No i went thru my states hunting courses and got liscened, nato rounds are shit for hunting, and especially with a AR 15 ment to spray and pray. The laws on the books make it illegal to be an asshat but that doesn't stop johnny reb from going out and spraying and praying without regard to whats downrange of their target, or even if they actually know what they are shooting at.
It would be better if they only allowed the use of approved buckshot rounds designed for hunting or similar rounds.
Then you have asshats doing shit like.
http://aattp.org/terrifying-new-bullet-designed-for-maximum-suffering-introducing-the-r-i-p/ which probably circumvents the FMJ laws.
The AR15 nato rounds were designed to wound and be dangerous as fuck, they teach soldiers to aim or the ground/feet to cause maximum carnage and richoches if needed. (Yeah, centermass and all that) but that doesn't always translate into what happens for real.
The AR15 might be acceptable as a competition weapon but it's a shitty weapon to be in the hands of civillian for any other reason and there's way better competition rifles.
Sadly I'm familiar with firearms :( rofl, right
And .22 or 5.56 would be the last round I would want for self defense from a bear or boar they'd most likely not notice being shot unless you hit an artery, richochete off bone and cause massive internal dmg, or hit the brain/heart.
Nato rounds? --You realize that 5.56 is the same size at .223? What matters is the bullet tip. FMJ is illegal to hunt with in most states and expanding tips are required. FMJ is however required under international law for war.
Spray and Pray? This isn't Counter-Strike. Fully automatic weapons are regulated by the federal government.
An "evil" AR15 shooting 5.56//.223 can take down a wild boar just fine (Although you stated before that there is NO GAME larger then a small dog in your area and now all of a sudden there is bear and boars? rofl) . Buck shot is ILLEGAL to use in my state in MOST areas and ruins the meat. Most people consider buckshot to be for women or children whom can't aim properly.
You never answered what a 'modded' AR15 is either.
PS- FMJ isn't illegal to own under federal law only ARMOR-PIERCING ammo is. Most modern rifle ammo used for hunting (FMJ or NOT) can pierce typical body armor but is exempt i.e. .30-06, .308, .270 etc.
TL;DR Stick to hunting mobs in Norrath.
iruinedyourday
12-12-2015, 12:32 PM
TL;DR Stick to hunting mobs in Norrath.
stick to posting here idiot http://1source.basspro.com/index.php/talk-forums/index
sOurDieSel
12-12-2015, 12:34 PM
.22LR is different then a .223
.223 and 5.56 are the same size.
Not talking about the lead but 1/2 a dozen holes in the meat.
Sounds like you never hunted before TBH.
iruinedyourday
12-12-2015, 12:37 PM
why is it that the most ignorant people are the ones that know the most about bullets.
Lurikeen
12-12-2015, 12:40 PM
Were u live, i'm i the 'green swamp' area of central Florida, and we have a really high # of incidents and no were near enough officers for enforcement, poaching is also a big problem here and in the glades. I've literally seen really bad gun handling 1st hand on private property near two different locations 40 miles apart.
I was born and raised in Utah and I feel like the mormorns, that state has there shit together, and regulation is not a problem because of culture and population density. I wouldn't think people would be so dumb there, but it is a problem in select areas. Enough to warrant real state and local legislation to deal with it.
I spent most of my time in the forests of the Pacific Northwest. Although, I have been hunting in the everglades several times. I lived in South Dade County during the early 80s. Even there among the gator poachers I never saw "spraying and praying." I am beginning to think you are giving me anecdote from newspaper headlines. My point is that I seriously doubt your exaggerations are anything substantial. I don't deny there are idiots with guns and I certainly don't deny that hunting accidents occur, but their frequency is not what you would have us believe.
Lurikeen
12-12-2015, 12:51 PM
Ok, so minus the hunting issue, do you think we should be able to just own what we want? Do whatever we want? Not require some level of social responsibility. Obviously too few people are familiar enough with firearms to even make informed decisions and choices.
Gun laws need to be reformed to fix this and to cater to proper hunters, and proper civilian needs.
Not just whatever you can do FFA.
You and I have more agreement here than you may imagine. I don't think I should be able to own a modern tank and park it in my front yard. Even if I could afford an A7 Warthog, I don't think I should be able to own one that is fully operational. I am being ridiculous to make the point that there should be limitations. However, we aren't ever going to agree where the fine line should be drawn. That's just a fact.
As far as gun checks are concerned... I really don't mind them. I don't think someone convicted of a felony violent crime should be able to possess a firearm of any type. I also don't think someone who is under the care of a psychiatrist for severe mental illness should be able to possess a firearm.
Concerning gun laws... they don't need reform. They just need to be enforced. Right now an honest person with a clean record has a tough time buying even a long rifle in most states. Hell, when I was a kid I could buy a 30-30 off the shelf at Sears with out filing a single piece of paperwork. All I had to do was have one of my parents with me, or show my hunting license. That was it. My how attitudes have changed.
sOurDieSel
12-12-2015, 12:53 PM
We need to abolish the 1934 National Firearms Act for starters or at least repeal the 1968 Hughes Amendment in the "Firearm Owners Protection Act."
Gun crime is at an all time low for the last 2 decades. (http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/05/07/gun-homicide-rate-down-49-since-1993-peak-public-unaware/?beta=true&utm_expid=53098246-2.Lly4CFSVQG2lphsg-KopIg.1&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2F)
iruinedyourday
12-12-2015, 01:13 PM
take it to these forums you fat fucks
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Lurikeen
12-12-2015, 01:16 PM
take it to these forums you fat fucks
Try something like this for your butt hurt.
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Pokesan
12-12-2015, 01:28 PM
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Need more people like this guy^
yeah let me check what an idiot caveman from the stupid ages thinks about problems 200 years after his death.
you realize he supported slavery right? you wanna bring that back too?
fucking racist
Morningbreath
12-12-2015, 01:39 PM
Prohibition would be the closest reference point we have to a ban on gun ownership.
But in the spirit of NAFTA, it would definitely encourage a lot of "trade" with Mexico.
As much as I'm in favor of gun ownership, all the retarded reasoning against any form of regulation gun enthusiasts come up with just makes me want to ban them totally out of spite.
myriverse
12-12-2015, 02:07 PM
You might reconsider your source for those statistics which has been debunked by this paper. (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://scholarship.law.wm.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi%3Farticle%3D1489%26context%3Dwmlr&ved=0ahUKEwiEp66j2tbJAhXCKyYKHWzPBx0QFggbMAA&usg=AFQjCNFStVQS_wSaowi7_y9io8_N5bJDBA&sig2=vlMUY5OqMJ_NlZml7C5T8A) Gun ownership was more prevalent than what you claim.
I'm less likely to accept Lindgren and Heather's argument because their data does not support what they reached.
Lurikeen
12-12-2015, 02:15 PM
I'm less likely to accept Lindgren and Heather's argument because their data does not support what they reached.
Exactly where are you getting your data from?
iruinedyourday
12-12-2015, 03:57 PM
Prohibition would be the closest reference point we have to a ban on gun ownership.
But in the spirit of NAFTA, it would definitely encourage a lot of "trade" with Mexico.
Lol yea cus every bar in every city filled with patrons every night is comparable to owning a piece of metal.
Whirled
12-12-2015, 04:16 PM
yeah let me check what an idiot caveman from the stupid ages thinks about problems 200 years after his death.
you realize he supported slavery right? you wanna bring that back too?
fucking racist
I seriously hope u have a counselor for these issues. Unsure why the angst tho....
hmm if it's towards anyone for any reason, ya seek help.. if it's just becuz we're in RnF, well then i guess GDIAF after EAFD!
AzzarTheGod
12-12-2015, 04:17 PM
What is a "modded" AR15 and what makes it more dangerous then a regular AR15?
.223/5.56 is a legal caliber to hunt deer and small game in my state. FMJ is illegal to hunt with in most states. Additionally .223 and 5.56 is a very small round, kinda like a .22LR on steroids if anything it is considered by most hunters to be UNDER-powered for big game hunting.
TL;DR Only a nutty liberal with a poor understanding of the 2nd Amendment and firearms in general would think a AR15 is overpowered to hunt small game with.
Many states have bans on small calibers and carbines for this reason. It was deemed inhumane to hunt with anything less than a big bore for big game hunting. This is in the most redneck of fly-over midwest states too, yeah, some rednecks they are. The nerve of them to make it illegal to hunt with small calibers.
I personally maintain a .457 using 280+ grain but I don't hunt anymore. No point.
AzzarTheGod
12-12-2015, 04:32 PM
PS- FMJ isn't illegal to own under federal law only ARMOR-PIERCING ammo is. Most modern rifle ammo used for hunting (FMJ or NOT) can pierce typical body armor but is exempt i.e. .30-06, .308, .270 etc.
A few handguns have been demonstrated to penetrate body armor, i.e. the 5.7. So its not like armor piercing is some kind of hallowed ground that can be regulated. Plenty of civ carbines like you said are popping anything not plated. The regs on armor piercing is just for bullets specifically designed and marketed as armor piercing, its a gimmick.
Ironically, the 5.7 is considered garbage for self defense for the same reason it can penetrate the body armor. Its another 22 LR on steroids piece of shit designed and engineered for full automatic weapons. I'd still carry it for SD because it may as well be fully auto mini-rifle rounds the way you can stick-fire the fuck out of it. Also one of the loudest sounds you will ever hear too, and that counts for something in SD when dealing with large crowds/bystanders/additional aggressors.
Armor piercing means shit. Its military industrial complex scare talk. If you aren't wearing plate as an officer or enlisted you are wrong, poor, or a combination of both.
iruinedyourday
12-12-2015, 04:38 PM
A few handguns have been demonstrated to penetrate body armor, i.e. the 5.7. So its not like armor piercing is some kind of hallowed ground that can be regulated. Plenty of civ carbines like you said are popping anything not plated. The regs on armor piercing is just for bullets specifically designed and marketed as armor piercing, its a gimmick.
Ironically, the 5.7 is considered garbage for self defense for the same reason it can penetrate the body armor. Its another 22 LR on steroids piece of shit designed and engineered for full automatic weapons. I'd still carry it for SD because it may as well be fully auto mini-rifle rounds the way you can stick-fire the fuck out of it. One of the loudest sounds you will ever hear too, and that counts for something in SD.
Armor piercing means shit. Its military industrial complex scare talk. If you aren't wearing plate as an officer or enlisted you are wrong, poor, or a combination of both.
Law enforcement doesnt need body armor, they only shoot unarmed black people durring traffic stops.
AzzarTheGod
12-12-2015, 04:49 PM
Law enforcement doesnt need body armor, they only shoot unarmed black people durring traffic stops.
This is true. No need for armor when you just heat-seek black drivers in 1990 model cars all day that cant afford a large pepsi, forget buying bullets.
Speaking of traffic stops..This one cop took a look at my tags which were all messed up, no plate, no inspection, etc. And he came back to the window, said nothing about it and told me to slow down. Like he glarred at my lack of plate with his flashlight, was like "hurr durr...nothing here....humdeedum...inspection not current either....humdeedum" Casually walks back to my window and says cool story. Yikes.
I felt the guilt of white privilege and the realities of class warfare. If I was driving a beater and if my license didn't indicate that I came from a well-off neighborhood you know I would have got tossed.
Shit like that has happened 4-5 times. Gives me the willies. One time I was speeding home 85-100 mph off and on late at night like midnight on a weekday, turns out state police had been following me for 15 miles just watching me swing lanes no signal just appeared completely out of control. I get stopped off the highway, he asks where I am going without saying anything else. I said blahblah my apartment. He said real cool and slow-like "yeah, I saw the whole thing...been following you since a few towns back..." I said "...Really...". That was my only explanation to him. Acting like the white speeding turkey with entitlement that I was. Exchange was riddled with .... moments on both sides.
He wrapped it up by writing me a 65 in a 50 zone ticket and said something to the effect of "This could have gone really bad if this was someone else"
KagatobLuvsAnimu
12-12-2015, 05:22 PM
^ if you feel so bad about it, kill yourself already.
AzzarTheGod
12-12-2015, 05:35 PM
I'm in therapy. IRYD has been tutoring me and I'm ready to vote sanders.
Lurikeen
12-12-2015, 05:38 PM
I'm in therapy. IRYD has been tutoring me and I'm ready to vote sanders.
You're in therapy because of the guilt you're suffering over your so-called "white privilege?"
KagatobLuvsAnimu
12-12-2015, 05:52 PM
You're in therapy because of the guilt you're suffering over your so-called "white privilege?"
And they still wonder why I laugh at them whenever I hear 'privilege' in a non-economic context when describing hardships.
iruinedyourday
12-12-2015, 06:03 PM
And they still wonder why I laugh at them whenever I hear 'privilege' in a non-economic context when describing hardships.
No we kno, it's because you're retarded and everything makes retarded kids laugh
Lurikeen
12-12-2015, 06:08 PM
And they still wonder why I laugh at them whenever I hear 'privilege' in a non-economic context when describing hardships.
The whole "white privilege" talk among Progressives is straight up Neo-Maoist doctrine of self-criticism. It's all part of the left's program of radically changing our culture.
Pokesan
12-12-2015, 06:11 PM
The whole "white privilege" talk among Progressives is straight up Neo-Maoist doctrine of self-criticism. It's all part of the left's program of radically changing our culture.
hello lurikeen
have you ever noticed that you have shit for brains?
just wondering
iruinedyourday
12-12-2015, 06:12 PM
The whole "white privilege" talk among Progressives is straight up Neo-Maoist doctrine of self-criticism. It's all part of the left's program of radically changing our culture.
Radically changing our culture lolol what culture walmart? Haha fuckn coward
iruinedyourday
12-12-2015, 06:17 PM
I have to run... so won't respond immediately... but, don't you think he makes a good point with his quip that you can't "ban everything?" Even if you take away all the guns, wouldn't knives suffice as murder weapons? Or cars? I think his point is good... it is human nature to use tools to kill others. Can you ban human nature?
this is you itt you fucking moron.
I hope you are still paying back loans cus you is dumb as fuck
also hope you still have aids
Lurikeen
12-12-2015, 06:21 PM
this is you itt you fucking moron.
I hope you are still paying back loans cus you is dumb as fuck
also hope you still have aids
http://www.quickmeme.com/img/f9/f9d031e5ece3cef14379307bdb0293e61225f697833f4223c0 93a18c6a0d066a.jpg
James_Joyce
12-12-2015, 06:27 PM
This is true. No need for armor when you just heat-seek black drivers in 1990 model cars all day that cant afford a large pepsi, forget buying bullets.
Speaking of traffic stops..This one cop took a look at my tags which were all messed up, no plate, no inspection, etc. And he came back to the window, said nothing about it and told me to slow down. Like he glarred at my lack of plate with his flashlight, was like "hurr durr...nothing here....humdeedum...inspection not current either....humdeedum" Casually walks back to my window and says cool story. Yikes.
I felt the guilt of white privilege and the realities of class warfare. If I was driving a beater and if my license didn't indicate that I came from a well-off neighborhood you know I would have got tossed.
Shit like that has happened 4-5 times. Gives me the willies. One time I was speeding home 85-100 mph off and on late at night like midnight on a weekday, turns out state police had been following me for 15 miles just watching me swing lanes no signal just appeared completely out of control. I get stopped off the highway, he asks where I am going without saying anything else. I said blahblah my apartment. He said real cool and slow-like "yeah, I saw the whole thing...been following you since a few towns back..." I said "...Really...". That was my only explanation to him. Acting like the white speeding turkey with entitlement that I was. Exchange was riddled with .... moments on both sides.
He wrapped it up by writing me a 65 in a 50 zone ticket and said something to the effect of "This could have gone really bad if this was someone else"
ive gotten a ticket for every violation the pig could come up with every time i ever got pulled over, except when fiveoh tried to pinch me for DUI on xmas eve when i only had a healthy Christmas buzz, and that other time the cop didn't realize I was going 20 over the limit cause I was blasted on acid and couldnt keep track of my speed, and just gave me the speeding ticket instead of ruining my life.
mai husbando however has been pulled over 5-6 times always for speeding and never got a ticket. Ive been in the passenger seat to witness this shit. I shouldn't have to tell you this but we're both white. He's never had a moving violation. He's not scared of pigs like me, and plays up the pity/friendliness angles, where I go into fight or flight mode and just say "yes sir" "no sir" "take my paycheck, not my life sir". I grew up in a not majority white state though, where the police keep an assault rifle in a holster next to the driver seat, beat the shit out of people for nothing, and kill people drunk driving in squad cars. Husband grew up in a white paradise where the nonmilitarized police still come off friendly and profeshno occasionally.
Maybe you're just more charming than you think, or more comfy around police than me because of your privilege Azzar. I think maybe they can smell my fear and the fear of black people like dogs.
Thomas Paine
12-13-2015, 01:23 PM
He sold his successors desk.
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