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KagatobLuvsAnimu
12-14-2015, 05:24 PM
Trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRVD32rnzOw)

James_Joyce
12-14-2015, 05:30 PM
Blaze it every single day. No excuses

AzzarTheGod
12-14-2015, 05:52 PM
trailer was time capsuled straight from the 1990's "EXTREME MARKETING" era.

cringe. Oh got it, its the director from three of the Fast and Furious movies. Ok well I did like Tokyo Drift when I was 15..kinda..sorta...errr

Going to waste a talented cast here. STARS AND FURIOUS

Madbad
12-14-2015, 05:56 PM
jesus christ

AzzarTheGod
12-14-2015, 06:00 PM
A director Justin Lin specialty.Watching this shit definitely kills braincells. What a buzzkill.

James_Joyce
12-14-2015, 06:01 PM
why would you even advertise "the director of fast and furious" in the trailer? thats the typ eof thing u should hide

iruinedyourday
12-14-2015, 06:48 PM
OK SO HERES WHAT I THINK

u know how everyone is like, JJ abrams RUINED startrek he made it about the action, the womanizing & the NON SCIENCE....

well thats what the OG startrek was all about for fucks sake look at this guy:

http://media.tumblr.com/26a5852020a1d28af1d218d415eae9f0/tumblr_inline_mlw0zgpnIA1qz4rgp.pnghttps://i.ytimg.com/vi/8C_GJj9q06U/hqdefault.jpghttps://i.ytimg.com/vi/3IWwBWubnbw/hqdefault.jpghttp://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/dove/mara3.jpghttp://www.startrek.com/uploads/assets/articles/fight1.jpghttp://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/images/7/7f/Kirk_after_fighting_Finnegan.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/413?cb=20140604080057&path-prefix=en

So in short, the new updated startrek movies are RIGHT IN CANNON (except for transwarp beaming but fuck you)

It wasnt until next gen that they made it all about the faggy jr high school im afraid of girls and science is #1 theme..

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x54/TrueX-Ray/TNG%20Caption%20This/tngcaption30b.jpghttp://static1.1.sqspcdn.com/static/f/560458/23053413/1373060831303/booby_trap_hd_002.jpg?token=fIB4PbGe9WsXL9ceiz%2BX ZgsIo5M%3Dhttp://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x54/TrueX-Ray/TNG%20Caption%20This/TNGCaption199c.jpg

SO IN REAL SHORT.

These movies are great, and I'm glad they got a producer from The Fast & The Furious on it. CUS THAT SHIT IS CANON

Madbad
12-14-2015, 06:51 PM
Star Trek, is, and always has been a submarine/nautical drama with sci-fi trappings.

Shits stupid when they get off the boat.

James_Joyce
12-14-2015, 07:43 PM
Kirk is so yummy.

Lune
12-14-2015, 07:47 PM
Behead those who insult TNG

allahu-oo-mox

iruinedyourday
12-14-2015, 07:49 PM
Im not insulting, but dude if you think the relationship issues in EVERY instance of tng, isnt tentamount to every relationship issue that every jr highschool student is going through, well u be kidding yerself

Remember the episode where they get all infected with the SEXY virus and wana BANG and shit? like episode 2 or whatever.

Anyways remember when Jordy laforge gets infected FIRST?

DO YOU REMEMBER WHERE HE GOES?

DO YOU REMEMBER THE FIRST PLACES THAT INFECTD WITH THE SEXY TIME VIRUS GOES?

THAT MOTHER FUCKER GOES DIRECTLY TO WESTLIES ROOM

tell me that aint some fucked up shit.

dat shit f'd up n u kno it! ;)

Lune
12-14-2015, 07:50 PM
That is pretty fucked up, what a great observation.

iruinedyourday
12-14-2015, 07:51 PM
That is pretty fucked up, what a great observation.

lol its like direct as fuck, hes like tuggin on his collar with beads of sweat and hes like man i dont feel well, i need to get some rest.

smash cut to the doorbell ringing to westlies room kek

Pokesan
12-14-2015, 08:06 PM
someone link the latimes article about all pedophiles being star trek fans

GeinHealy
12-14-2015, 11:38 PM
Star Trek, is, and always has been a submarine/nautical drama with sci-fi trappings.

Shits stupid when they get off the boat.

Star Trek TOS, Season 1, Episode 14:

"Balance of Terror"

That shit's classic! :D

MrSparkle001
12-15-2015, 12:08 AM
This looks like shit. I didn't like Fast and Furious, never bothered to see any of the others, and this "Star Trek" movie looks like absolute shit.

KagatobLuvsAnimu
12-15-2015, 05:16 AM
Based on the trailer, this movie does look abysmally generic.

James_Joyce
12-15-2015, 05:33 AM
Star Trek: Beyond Gay

stormlord
12-16-2015, 03:00 AM
OK SO HERES WHAT I THINK

u know how everyone is like, JJ abrams RUINED startrek he made it about the action, the womanizing & the NON SCIENCE....

well thats what the OG startrek was all about for fucks sake look at this guy:

http://media.tumblr.com/26a5852020a1d28af1d218d415eae9f0/tumblr_inline_mlw0zgpnIA1qz4rgp.pnghttps://i.ytimg.com/vi/8C_GJj9q06U/hqdefault.jpghttps://i.ytimg.com/vi/3IWwBWubnbw/hqdefault.jpghttp://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/dove/mara3.jpghttp://www.startrek.com/uploads/assets/articles/fight1.jpghttp://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/images/7/7f/Kirk_after_fighting_Finnegan.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/413?cb=20140604080057&path-prefix=en

So in short, the new updated startrek movies are RIGHT IN CANNON (except for transwarp beaming but fuck you)

It wasnt until next gen that they made it all about the faggy jr high school im afraid of girls and science is #1 theme..

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x54/TrueX-Ray/TNG%20Caption%20This/tngcaption30b.jpghttp://static1.1.sqspcdn.com/static/f/560458/23053413/1373060831303/booby_trap_hd_002.jpg?token=fIB4PbGe9WsXL9ceiz%2BX ZgsIo5M%3Dhttp://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x54/TrueX-Ray/TNG%20Caption%20This/TNGCaption199c.jpg

SO IN REAL SHORT.

These movies are great, and I'm glad they got a producer from The Fast & The Furious on it. CUS THAT SHIT IS CANON
I think you're kind of right, but only kind of. You're comparing something like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfZFx_GKtIc

To this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gMVrQ4Zq3M

Do you deny hte differnece? Here's your action-packed movie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2T1QX7BEyg

Here's some more action:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6F5pAFhByU8

I get it STar Trek had some action, but you're making a broad brush stroke that fails to catch the subtlety.

EDIT: Speed is a great movie btw, but it's not Star Trek. Neither is Fast and Furious.

One isn't better than the other but they serve people in different ways.

Novoselic
12-16-2015, 03:31 AM
OK SO HERES WHAT I THINK

u know how everyone is like, JJ abrams RUINED startrek he made it about the action, the womanizing & the NON SCIENCE....

well thats what the OG startrek was all about for fucks sake look at this guy:

http://media.tumblr.com/26a5852020a1d28af1d218d415eae9f0/tumblr_inline_mlw0zgpnIA1qz4rgp.pnghttps://i.ytimg.com/vi/8C_GJj9q06U/hqdefault.jpghttps://i.ytimg.com/vi/3IWwBWubnbw/hqdefault.jpghttp://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/dove/mara3.jpghttp://www.startrek.com/uploads/assets/articles/fight1.jpghttp://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/images/7/7f/Kirk_after_fighting_Finnegan.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/413?cb=20140604080057&path-prefix=en

So in short, the new updated startrek movies are RIGHT IN CANNON (except for transwarp beaming but fuck you)

It wasnt until next gen that they made it all about the faggy jr high school im afraid of girls and science is #1 theme..

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x54/TrueX-Ray/TNG%20Caption%20This/tngcaption30b.jpghttp://static1.1.sqspcdn.com/static/f/560458/23053413/1373060831303/booby_trap_hd_002.jpg?token=fIB4PbGe9WsXL9ceiz%2BX ZgsIo5M%3Dhttp://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x54/TrueX-Ray/TNG%20Caption%20This/TNGCaption199c.jpg

SO IN REAL SHORT.

These movies are great, and I'm glad they got a producer from The Fast & The Furious on it. CUS THAT SHIT IS CANON

tng had class and picard will fuck up klingons anyday of the week
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5flvBy9AHU

picard actually stabbed a *****
hows that for action

and dont get me started on my ***** riker
tldr:
tos is for pussies and mouthbreathers, tng is for classy men

stormlord
12-16-2015, 03:32 AM
Here's some more action from TOS:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bprgl_4z6gY

Wow he was almost buried alive! What a nail biter.

Oh look it has some action it must be like Fast and Furious:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU3B_5hVsns

If you got the attention span of like 5 seconds maybe that's what it's like.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_City_on_the_Edge_of_Forever

Swish
12-16-2015, 07:57 AM
One thing that ruined every modern era Star Trek movie from First Contact onwards was the insistence on adding "cinema funnies", poor one liners and really exaggerating things like Data's emotion chip or whatever.

This definitely isnt one for the purists, and if they ever attempt another TV series I can only hope it's nothing like this.

Swish
12-16-2015, 07:58 AM
I know I always think of the Beastie Boys when I think of Star Trek....

yikes

beyondinfin
12-16-2015, 10:12 AM
This trailer hurts to watch. The best comment I read on youtube was that using "Sabotage" as the song was purposeful to state emphatically that the director has sabotaged Star Trek for this generic, action, sci-fi BS.

Swish
12-16-2015, 10:33 AM
This trailer hurts to watch. The best comment I read on youtube was that using "Sabotage" as the song was purposeful to state emphatically that the director has sabotaged Star Trek for this generic, action, sci-fi BS.

Right. Also note how many dislikes it has... shit gonna flop hard.

iruinedyourday
12-16-2015, 12:45 PM
Nah it's going to do great. Nerds on the internet < normals.

AzzarTheGod
12-16-2015, 04:40 PM
Nah it's going to do great. Nerds on the internet < normals.

This will do big numbers... Actually I take that back. It will do mediocre numbers.

Filthy_Pagan
12-16-2015, 04:44 PM
I thought voyager was alright tbh
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6ryf83EuH1qatnkmo1_400.jpg

Whirled
12-16-2015, 04:54 PM
http://cf.chucklesnetwork.com/items/7/7/2/2/0/original/yo-dawg-i-heard-you-like-star-trek-so-i-sold-all-your-star-wars.jpg

Lune
12-16-2015, 05:09 PM
I thought voyager was alright tbh


Worse than TNG and DS9, better than TOS

http://i.imgur.com/DWGFATn.jpg

iruinedyourday
12-16-2015, 05:13 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0azMOJ-h_o

AzzarTheGod
12-16-2015, 05:20 PM
I thought voyager was alright tbh


I enjoyed TNG and Voyager. I had trouble getting into DS9 when I tried to jump aboard mid-series/end-series. It was really hard to get into if you showed up late. I wasn't able to get into DS9 for whatever reason. I think maybe it had too much going on as I recall, too much character development to catch up on left me clueless.

Voyager was a much easier follow than DS9. TNG is what star trek was about. That original shit was too heavy on the james bond space cowboys stuff from captain kirk for my taste.

Filthy_Pagan
12-16-2015, 05:55 PM
I enjoyed TNG and Voyager. I had trouble getting into DS9 when I tried to jump aboard mid-series/end-series. It was really hard to get into if you showed up late. I wasn't able to get into DS9 for whatever reason. I think maybe it had too much going on as I recall, too much character development to catch up on left me clueless.

Voyager was a much easier follow than DS9. TNG is what star trek was about. That original shit was too heavy on the james bond space cowboys stuff from captain kirk for my taste.

I started DS9 from the beginning and stuck with it long enough for it to be pretty good. TNG was definitely true star trek imo.

Filthy_Pagan
12-16-2015, 06:00 PM
Worse than TNG and DS9, better than TOS

http://i.imgur.com/DWGFATn.jpg

You know you liked Voyager, Lune. My spirit animal of the forest's ancestor's people's ancestor spirit's people's forest's spirit ancestor's spirit animal's people's forest spirit told me so.

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa37/34tisdale43/chakotay_tux.jpg

stormlord
12-16-2015, 09:25 PM
Nah it's going to do great. Nerds on the internet < normals.
Nerds are the reason Star Trek has a name. Otherwise it'd be like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d96cjJhvlMA

Compare that to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nkegWQe1ZM

Or my favorite:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW7neKZFKE0

Every trailer for a big movie has to be full of action because that's what most people want.

You'll never see a Star Trek MOVIE do this for almost 45 minutes (a full episode):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfdRVtIyFQc

Here's some more action from that episode:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHHg36yXL7Y

That's because TV audiences are NOT the same thing as movie audiences. The only reason those original Star Trek movies were anything like Star Trek was because of their big following.Things have changed since then.

nilbog
12-16-2015, 09:33 PM
Voyager was better than ds9 imo.

ds9 was good when they were in spaceships, which is more of a 'trek'.

I watched all of ds9 in order, and it was like a soap opera 'as the station turns'.

And I really hate Kai Winn.

KagatobLuvsAnimu
12-16-2015, 09:33 PM
Watch Star Trek 2.

MrSparkle001
12-16-2015, 09:36 PM
You should watch II. II and First Contact are the best of them.

nilbog
12-16-2015, 09:41 PM
I've seen everything except the 1972 animated series. I would agree that wrath of khan and first contact are some of the best movies.

Since we're discussing series in here, how about that enterprise theme song. Awful. A few years ago I made this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1F1qBdZTRI) to demonstrate how nearly any song is better than the official one.

MrSparkle001
12-16-2015, 09:51 PM
The Enterprise theme song is why I never watched the show. When I first heard that theme and saw it was for a show called "Enterprise" on a second-rate TV channel I thought it was a sci-fi show ripping off Star Trek, not an actual Star Trek show.

Filthy_Pagan
12-16-2015, 09:53 PM
I watched all of ds9 in order, and it was like a soap opera 'as the station turns'.

iruinedyourday
12-16-2015, 10:00 PM
Nerds are the reason Star Trek has a name. Otherwise it'd be like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d96cjJhvlMA

Compare that to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nkegWQe1ZM

Or my favorite:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW7neKZFKE0

Every trailer for a big movie has to be full of action because that's what most people want.

You'll never see a Star Trek MOVIE do this for almost 45 minutes (a full episode):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfdRVtIyFQc

Here's some more action from that episode:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHHg36yXL7Y

That's because TV audiences are NOT the same thing as movie audiences. The only reason those original Star Trek movies were anything like Star Trek was because of their big following.Things have changed since then.

there are X nerds.. there are XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX normals who want to suck JJ abrams dick and will want to let him do them in the butt after they watch starwars.

it will do extremely well

KagatobLuvsAnimu
12-16-2015, 10:23 PM
I've seen everything except the 1972 animated series. I would agree that wrath of khan and first contact are some of the best movies.

Since we're discussing series in here, how about that enterprise theme song. Awful. A few years ago I made this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1F1qBdZTRI) to demonstrate how nearly any song is better than the official one.

I'll always give them a pass for it thanks to the In a Mirror Darkley OP (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sfbsZRbwbJ4)

Madbad
12-16-2015, 10:44 PM
Captain Janeway best captain IMO

stormlord
12-16-2015, 10:46 PM
there are X nerds.. there are XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX normals who want to suck JJ abrams dick and will want to let him do them in the butt after they watch starwars.

it will do extremely well
Don't get me wrong. I LOVED Speed. I LOVED Terminator. I like action films. But look at Star Trek IV or I, not II. Maybe even III--I've not seen either yet. There's almost no fighting in IV. Yet IV was my favorite as a kid growing up. When I tried to watch Star Trek The Motion Picture it was always lost on me but still caught my imagination.

I'm not saying the new Star Treks are bad. After viewing hte trailers, I have to say they're what they're. But don't pretend for a second TOS is the same thing. There were episodes in TOS where almost nothing fast happens. Some seriously weird ones! Maybe a punch here and there, but that was it. The rest was slow motion compared to Fast and Furious. There're some TOS episodes with more action, but you still shouldn't be comparing them to Fast and Furious like you were.

iruinedyourday
12-16-2015, 10:51 PM
Don't get me wrong. I LOVED Speed. I LOVED Terminator. I like action films. But look at Star Trek IV, not II. There's almost no fighting in IV. Yet that was my favorite as a kid growing up.

I think in the movies era home boy really started believing in humanism and you saw the change that drove him to push for the humanist TNG that we all think is the startrek motus oporandi

During the development of TNG he wanted NO conflict, pretty interesting, the writers had a hard time trying to figure out how to tell a story if everyone in the future were perfect.

He was taken off the show at the end of season 2 and thats when they were able to change the direction a bit and make it the series we all know and love (dont get me wrong i love all seasons of TNG, but you cant argue that 1 & 2 are not pretty bad and VERY derivative of the old series even though he wanted them to be so different)

Also recently heard a theory that BLEW my fucking mind, and was ashamed I didnt come up with it.

That TNG is a metaphore for Heaven.. Q is god, and everyone lives in peace. The holodeck allows people to live in infinite worlds...

I think its more of a coincidence though, becuse he knew he wanted to make the series his humanist utopia vision, and Q was added on the fly when he was forced to change the pilot into a 2hour episode.

But who knows, maybe at that moment is when he decided to write the show as what heaven really is.

I sure hope its fucking heaven. I can tell you that much, know why? Cus then we get to live in mother fuckin startrek world ahhhh yiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis

Cus then we get to

iruinedyourday
12-16-2015, 11:13 PM
Also not saying the new movies are the same by the way just that they are what TOS would have evolved into naturally given the same amount of time it's taken for them to evolve into what they are now, speed. :)

Or at the very least, not a bastardization.

KagatobLuvsAnimu
12-16-2015, 11:16 PM
Captain Janeway best captain IMO


http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6ryf83EuH1qatnkmo1_400.jpg

RIP

Madbad
12-16-2015, 11:18 PM
LOL Tuvix!

stormlord
12-16-2015, 11:28 PM
I think in the movies era home boy really started believing in humanism and you saw the change that drove him to push for the humanist TNG that we all think is the startrek motus oporandi

During the development of TNG he wanted NO conflict, pretty interesting, the writers had a hard time trying to figure out how to tell a story if everyone in the future were perfect.

He was taken off the show at the end of season 2 and thats when they were able to change the direction a bit and make it the series we all know and love (dont get me wrong i love all seasons of TNG, but you cant argue that 1 & 2 are not pretty bad and VERY derivative of the old series even though he wanted them to be so different)

Also recently heard a theory that BLEW my fucking mind, and was ashamed I didnt come up with it.

That TNG is a metaphore for Heaven.. Q is god, and everyone lives in peace. The holodeck allows people to live in infinite worlds...

I think its more of a coincidence though, becuse he knew he wanted to make the series his humanist utopia vision, and Q was added on the fly when he was forced to change the pilot into a 2hour episode.

But who knows, maybe at that moment is when he decided to write the show as what heaven really is.

I sure hope its fucking heaven. I can tell you that much, know why? Cus then we get to live in mother fuckin startrek world ahhhh yiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis

Cus then we get to
Actually the first seasons of TNG had some real weird episodes and I alwyas liked them. Years later I found out Roddenberry had a lot influence on them and they later hired some new people and introduced more drama into it. I'm ok with the drama, but I was ok with the first two seasons as well. I guess people like you weren't ok with it?

One of my favorites was the one where Picard opens the door and it goes out into space.

EDIT: I just googled and it's 'Where No One Has Gone Before' .

Do you really like Star Trek or just trolling? I've known quite a few who hated TNG for being too fluffy. Are you one of them? Supposedly, the people behind Deep Space Nine were the sort who thought TNG was too fluffy.

And then there're those who hated hte technobabble, including many of hte actors.

iruinedyourday
12-16-2015, 11:41 PM
Actually the first season of TNG had some real weird episodes and I alwyas liked them. Years later I found out Roddenberry had a lot influence on them and they later hired some new people and introduced more drama into it. I'm ok with the drama, but I was ok with the first two seasons as well. I guess people like you weren't ok with it?

One of my favorites was the one where Picard opens the door and it goes out into space.

EDIT: I just googled and it's 'Where No One Has Gone Before' .

No way dude I love that shit. I seen every tng ep like 300 times.

Im just pointing out the diff that you agree hehe

Once I posted on the internet "why are there guys wearing mini skirts in tng" and I got one of my favorite replies from an anon, "because he believed in the future we'd be able to not care about things like that but because of people like you we won't"

I was like lol wut I do haha

Love the internet

stormlord
12-16-2015, 11:55 PM
No way dude I love that shit. I seen every tng ep like 300 times.

Im just pointing out the diff that you agree hehe

Once I posted on the internet "why are there guys wearing mini skirts in tng" and I got one of my favorite replies from an anon, "because he believed in the future we'd be able to not care about things like that but because of people like you we won't"

I was like lol wut I do haha

Love the internet
Did you know there's lard in refried beans? It reduces depression.

Check the label.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izBbP2kro-c

Swish
12-17-2015, 12:00 AM
TNG's "monster of the week" gimmick was actually really good, and if not monsters there was some good character development episodes.

Love me some Star Trek. Also a fan of DS9 but I feel like I have to watch 2-3 episodes in a sitting because of the continuing storyline. Quark vs Odo scenes probably topped it for me, some funny shit :)

Never liked Janeway (that voice), or Neelix (ugh), or Tuvok (so vulcan he didnt really add anything), or Chakotay (too bland). If not for the Doctor I think the series would have been axed.

iruinedyourday
12-17-2015, 12:16 AM
TNG's "monster of the week" gimmick was actually really good, and if not monsters there was some good character development episodes.

Love me some Star Trek. Also a fan of DS9 but I feel like I have to watch 2-3 episodes in a sitting because of the continuing storyline. Quark vs Odo scenes probably topped it for me, some funny shit :)

Never liked Janeway (that voice), or Neelix (ugh), or Tuvok (so vulcan he didnt really add anything), or Chakotay (too bland). If not for the Doctor I think the series would have been axed.


True but the episode where they go to 1997 is almost as good as star trek 3

It's a great show to binge while also watching sliders kek

stormlord
12-17-2015, 12:22 AM
Also not saying the new movies are the same by the way just that they are what TOS would have evolved into naturally given the same amount of time it's taken for them to evolve into what they are now, speed. :)

Or at the very least, not a bastardization.
Also these're movies, not TV shows. A TV version of STar Trek would probably be like one of hte standard dramas. You know, the transgender Captain crying on the gay islamic First Officer's shoulder and characters so deep you'll asphyxiate. And everything else a series of bakc and forth comedy and commentary on the latest flavor of ice cream.

That's not much different from TOS or TNG in all reality. But it's different from movies which tend to be faster and vapid. You won't see any scenes like hte flute in TNG which Picard sometimes used. That was a reference to "Inner Light". You don't see that in movies because the general movie going audience won't get it. Canon is less important.

TV can get away with things. Those're hte things which made STar Trek famous! A STar Trek that's famous as a movie is not the same kind of Star Trek. It's a brand of Star Trek, but it shouldn't it should be mistaken as the same thing.

Madbad
12-17-2015, 01:14 AM
Never liked Janeway (that voice), or Neelix (ugh), or Tuvok (so vulcan he didnt really add anything), or Chakotay (too bland). If not for the Doctor I think the series would have been axed.

http://i.imgur.com/hwDDAC0.gif

KagatobLuvsAnimu
12-17-2015, 02:16 AM
Robert Picardo was the best part about Voyager.
http://i.imgur.com/pipF3JB.gif

iruinedyourday
12-17-2015, 02:27 AM
Robert Picardo was the best part about Voyager.
http://i.imgur.com/pipF3JB.gif

We def agree here

KagatobLuvsAnimu
12-17-2015, 11:51 PM
Trailer was so bad they cut it from the lineup before Star Wars. :cool:

iruinedyourday
12-18-2015, 12:14 AM
grats

AzzarTheGod
12-18-2015, 03:42 AM
It was a good trailer, as it played to the director's strengths.

Anything else would be false advertising and amount to fraud.