Prime time population...

[Mus3t11]

...just ain't what it once was. Wonder why that is?



















pve

[Efwan]

230 not too bad on a weekday. You still b&?

[fiegi 8.0]

whats the pop @ 3am

[syztem]

last night when I popped on around 5am the counter said 43. a /who all count in game showed 31 actual. but thats 5am on a wednesday, wouldn't be surprised if that trend kept up for those hours. the whole farm race is over, no one is really pushing hard for holgresh beads, lodizal, stormfeather, other semi rare camps.

[Smedy]

pop hovering around 40 on my timezone, ain't logging in

[AzzarTheGod]

whats the pop @ 3am

[Beastagoog]

whats the pop @ 3am

Dismal.

3am would be about 10pm my time.

Cant even troll /ooc no one is on.

[derpcake]

pop hovering around 40 on my timezone, ain't logging in

dat GMT +1

can only farm so many AC rings

[georgie]

whats the pop @ 3am

ask colgate

[Jazzy]

Pop outside work hours in europe is terribad.

usually between 40 to 50. Hard to login

[Seltius]

So what you're insinuating to Rogean is that he should be closing Red and moving everyone to Blue or should merge Red and Blue into 1 PVP/PVE server and let all hell break loose? Make the Purple 99 server and just throw anyone who breaks rules onto it as a wild west server. Or maybe like Australia which iirc historically started as a penal colony.

[miraclegrow2]

population is exactly how everyone wants it.

greed, selfishness and cockblocking = low server pop

enjoy

[snufzaimoverlord]

You're an idiot.

Red is following the exact pattern Blue is, staying at between 15-20% of its population.

Nothing besides everquest being everquest is keeping both servers low now.

[Redi]

600 for discord? thoughts?

[Kergan]

600 weeks until it comes out you mean?

[Drakaris]

pop hovering around 40 on my timezone, ain't logging in

Yup.... pretty much a shit show :)

[Kergan]

Should close the server down from 10pm to 8am and all day Sunday like a good Christian American business. All the Euro and Australian players do is bitch about not having enough friends anyway. :)

[dontbanpls]

I'd bet if empire closed recruitment and some people started trying legitimately to be a second option and contest that the server would see an increase in players. Unfortunately this servers community has it out pretty hard to kill itself.

[Kerwin]

lol pull the plug

rip red

[Tassador]

population is exactly how everyone wants it.

greed, selfishness and cockblocking = low server pop

enjoy

Red is great even with a 32 pop at 3 am sickpuppy was killing seafuries. Tldr you lost in eq and are seeking friends to play starwars...

[bolo]

I'd bet if empire closed recruitment and some people started trying legitimately to be a second option and contest that the server would see an increase in players. Unfortunately this servers community has it out pretty hard to kill itself.

[Kergan]

Yeah all this server needs is for the top guild to stop trying so hard and a bunch of people who have shown no interest in beating them to band together.

:)

[Colgate]

I'd bet if empire closed recruitment and some people started trying legitimately to be a second option and contest that the server would see an increase in players. Unfortunately this servers community has it out pretty hard to kill itself.

one of the only draws to this server is that it has a less retarded raid scene than blue

closing recruitment would not only remove that appeal, but it would also be guild suicide

[derpcake]

one of the only draws to this server is that it has a less retarded raid scene than blue

this isn't really true

raid at empire hours, or pretty much don't raid

sucking dick and having to meet requirements in order to join a guild that may "snipe" a kunark target?

nope

[Lasher]

So hard to raid 7pm to 930pm est. If you cant do that or want to be in a different guild than empire.

CT, telk, gozz, sont, klandi, zlandi, ikaitar, velk, talendor, gore, vs, are up. Statue and tormax were up for 24 hours, eashen was up for 48. Probably other stuff up too.

Plenty to kill

[derpcake]

So hard to raid 7pm to 930pm est. If you cant do that or want to be in a different guild than empire.

CT, telk, gozz, sont, klandi, zlandi, ikaitar, velk, talendor, gore, vs, are up. Statue and tormax were up for 24 hours, eashen was up for 48. Probably other stuff up too.

Plenty to kill

too bad people aren't killing them because server dead, u know

so grats to you for doing great, blaming other guilds & players for the low pop / activity server has outside empire isn't going to help though

shit is what it is

[Lasher]

Blame the people logging in, putting effort in and having fun instead of the people not logging in, not trying, qqing for wipe?

Thats like the people who didnt vote complaining about election results

[Beastagoog]

Red is great even with a 32 pop at 3 am sickpuppy was killing seafuries. Tldr you lost in eq and are seeking friends to play starwars...

N e 1 ever wonder why this guy needs more plat and fungis?

[derpcake]

Blame the people logging in, putting effort in and having fun instead of the people not logging in, not trying, qqing for wipe?

people are not logging in, nor putting in effort

they don't give a shit anymore, because server is dead

glad you agree

[Lasher]

230 at prime time is decent for red

[Colgate]

this isn't really true

raid at empire hours, or pretty much don't raid

sucking dick and having to meet requirements in order to join a guild that may "snipe" a kunark target?

nope

i don't understand how raiding at "empire hours" (US primetime, aka the best time to play a video game for the vast majority of the people) is equivalent to the retarded concept of variance and rechargequest

[Ragnaros]

non empire raiding hours the server dips under 100
its only ever 200+ when empire is raiding with 90 people then they all log off
im not complaining but its pretty depressing
another guild rising and putting a little pressure and taking some mobs and competing will force those people to play more and make the server population more active
truth

[derpcake]

i don't understand how raiding at "empire hours" (US primetime, aka the best time to play a video game for the vast majority of the people) is equivalent to the retarded concept of variance and rechargequest

go see how many people are online atm

it simply isn't possible to contest empire on non-us hours, because there is no population to do so

why the pop is low doesn't matter at this point, nor would variance

[Colgate]

non empire raiding hours the server dips under 100
its only ever 200+ when empire is raiding with 90 people then they all log off
im not complaining but its pretty depressing
another guild rising and putting a little pressure and taking some mobs and competing will force those people to play more and make the server population more active
truth

why doesn't your guild put pressure on empire?

by your own concession, you are the problem here

[Bundy]

eliminate YTs. People so hung up on stupid board kdr. Is why newbie groups get killed: people want to pad it. Its why binds are camped. Eliminate YT and pvp board pop will go up. people will stop hugging ZLs and battle because there wont be the kdr thing over their heads. Fights become fun and not on a permanent record and people won't grief to pad their numbers.

[derpcake]

by your own concession, you are the problem here

might as well blame all retired / inactive players

if people don't want to contest, they don't, doesn't matter why

few people outside empire, and even fewer that give a flying fuck these days

hence server on its last legs

[pgerman]

eliminate YTs. People so hung up on stupid board kdr. Is why newbie groups get killed: people want to pad it. Its why binds are camped. Eliminate YT and pvp board pop will go up. people will stop hugging ZLs and battle because there wont be the kdr thing over their heads. Fights become fun and not on a permanent record and people won't grief to pad their numbers.


a lot of people play this game to avoid death, its how they have fun, why collect a bunch of gear just to get dunked on and spend hours on corpse runs?

b4 leaderboards there were good old fashioned screen shots and what not , dieing on the daily was never a "thing"


Binds are camped to slow the other guild down, not to pad a leaderboard.


This idea that people "grief" to pad their numbers is hilarious. A few like kammbo maybe, yea. LOL

He would spend hours killing the same people over and over again in droga to pad his leaderboard, even that really doesnt matter. Idiots shoudlnt be going afk b4 they log out on a pvp server and deserve to get farmed in shame.

Anyone of the top "griefers" on the server woudlnt stop doing it if there was 10 people left on the server and no leaderboard. THEY DO IT FOR TEARS

Those tells that people send after they get murked? Smallmee has a mural of tears painted on his bedroom wall.

Could go on forever, but yea..........dumb

[Colgate]

you misunderstand; i legitimately do not care if there is an "opposition" or not

i'm going to keep playing the game the way it was designed to be played, no matter how mad it makes the people on the outside looking in

[Colgate]

thank god retards like yiam are in charge of the only other guild here

makes it so easy to dominate

[Tassador]

you misunderstand; i legitimately do not care if there is an "opposition" or not

i'm going to keep playing the game the way it was designed to be played, no matter how mad it makes the people on the outside looking in

The same was designed to make $12 bucks a month. Pvp server was designed for pvp. Play style is whatever you like as long as you paid that monthly. If you really think there is an end game to Everquest?? A game that never ends..

[Colgate]

you can never escape the quest

[derpcake]

you misunderstand; i legitimately do not care if there is an "opposition" or not

i don't misunderstand

i'm saying the server is just about dead, you are saying you'd enjoy a pvp server without any opposition

seems the same really, except you'd enjoy that kind of thing while i don't :)

[Ragnaros]

why doesn't your guild put pressure on empire?

by your own concession, you are the problem here

reading comprehension not your strong point eh?
didnt claim i wasnt part of the problem
but lets not ignore the fact that it wouldnt be such a big deal if you didnt recruit literally 50% of the server if not more that are in 60 range

[Ragnaros]

but yes i agree the current oppositions attitude is ONE of the issues of the servers state

[Beastagoog]

but yes i agree the current oppositions attitude is ONE of the issues of the servers state

Couldn't agree more.

Wins PvP over mobs for the 1st time in their history: pushes timer so far out of peak time that when they log in to kill said mobs they are 60-80% of server pop.

Yerp opposition really looking 2 help progress server.

[Beastagoog]

eliminate YTs. People so hung up on stupid board kdr. Is why newbie groups get killed: people want to pad it. Its why binds are camped. Eliminate YT and pvp board pop will go up. people will stop hugging ZLs and battle because there wont be the kdr thing over their heads. Fights become fun and not on a permanent record and people won't grief to pad their numbers.

Been saying this for years...make YTs zonal or...continent only.

[Ragnaros]

Couldn't agree more.

Wins PvP over mobs for the 1st time in their history: pushes timer so far out of peak time that when they log in to kill said mobs they are 60-80% of server pop.

Yerp opposition really looking 2 help progress server.

Naw pushing timers on mobs to give yourself an advantage isnt really what i meant, its tactical and smart IF your guild can constantly sustain a raid force at that time to down it. It takes 15 players to kill dracolich and even less for the golems.
Behavior that is really killing the server is the #1 guild is fielding 50+% of the level 60 population while another issue is that there isnt another guild that is even attempting to grow and progress and/or even attempting to kill things in NTOV with a dedicated effort. Shit was left up for weeks, Friends isnt a raiding guild but if anyone on the opposition is complaning about not getting raid mobs ( casual scum included) then look in the mirror and put some work in because its certainly possible. Ikatar can pretty much be killed with 20 people maybe less. Dain can be done by 40

[Ragnaros]

The way the server works is that if you arent willing to hold peoples hands and feed them gear then you will get recruits at a lesser rate. It kinda sucks but thats the way it is, and carrying people isnt interesting to alot of people.

[Bundy]

yea who knows maybe then people will contest and not be like "nah dude too risky, dont want to screw up my kill/death ratio".... they might actually attempt to contest. even if they fail can just get their corpses and not have the record kept (yea someone could still take a screen shot but it's not going to blow up globally, except ooc hearsay accounts, or be kept as a statistic on another webpage to reference). can give it the old college try. people thought nihilum was unbeatable and holo/empire eventually took over. just trying to help here. cant win if you don't try.

TLDR version: eliminate YT and at least try contesting. or don't and basically live at the POM zone out tree and sky shrine zonelines

[Bundy]

and i agree with Rag. that stuff was left up. could have banded together to kill it. CS and friends could probably kill some of that NTOV stuff. especially if so many weren't SKs and made clerics and warriors for CH chains and defensive discs.

[Smedy]

40 pop @ eurotime, check
no 2 boxing, check

whats the point
check

[Beastagoog]

Correct.

So 1st part is:

In summary you" only get out what you put in."

The opposition doesnt try because they dont want to help people so just blame it on <empire>, and value their own personal YT score over thr development of their guild - sadly this is a fact and not fiction.

Reality is even when I was raiding day in day b4 work came up <empire> regulary only had 60 on. Lord V and Vulak with exceptions. <Empire> has even less on days when it was the right side coz of the shit gear the last 2 dargons dropped.

Just as much as people joke about friends raiding at 4am, empire rarely raids with 90 - maybe at first but I'd think its more 60-70 now at peak/goog lewt dargons.

The 2nd part to this equation is EQ is a gear based game and 95% of the server is interested in gear progression over YTs. So they prioritize their time accordingly. The only guild making an effort to accommodate peoples PvE needs is <empire> so naturally people levitate to the guild.

---

In my 2.5 years I've seen many opposition guilds to and the only one that ever looked like it was going to contest was Hokuten because it was piloted by someone who was invested in actually creating a guild to contest.

This major issues as to why there is no guild to contest is innately in the leadership/goals of thr opposing guild. The minor issues are with <empire> - its just the way it is.

[Beastagoog]

Right side of NToV* and triplets*

[Smedy]

if someone cared enough to start contesting empire they would field 90 within a week, ya'll know this you got bored of playing dead box when no one wants to mindlessly throw themselves at your numbers, deal with it

[Beastagoog]

if someone cared enough to start contesting empire they would field 90 within a week, ya'll know this you got bored of playing dead box when no one wants to mindlessly throw themselves at your numbers, deal with it

Gotta have some reason for people to join your team. No ones going to invest hours on end for little to no progression;

So what can your guild offer?

Are you willing to get someone who has a PvP score of 5-100 and show them how to avoid getting YTed as much?( There'd be players that dont do simple things like binding /who to the foward key and isolate the list to a seperate window.)

Are you willing to suffer with your fellow guildies and go thru the lows to reach the highs?

Or do you just want people who can get a YT know the bits and bobs (pumice, /ass macros, /ass key to see what the targets target is etc etc) and play the right classes?

If your answers are nothing, no, no and yes to those 4 questions then your guild wont grow much.

[Beastagoog]

I mean straight off the bat the leaders and co leaders of your guild all play killshot classes.

[Ames1]

40 pop @ eurotime, check
no 2 boxing, check

whats the point
check

That has been the story on and off since 2012. Why do people ever expect this to change? The fact is that only 300 or so people want to play classic everquest pvp and nothing will ever change that. You have to just take this server at it's face value and enjoy it for what it is, or get your nostalgia fix then move on with your life.

[Beastagoog]

2 co leaders in empire play pulling classes (colgate and gong) and actively participate in thr pulling process

1 leads the clerics and plays a cleric (terp)

Starting 2 see the pattern?

[LostCause]

http://tallonzektimes.org/bb/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=45353.0;attach=407 64

[Tassador]

That has been the story on and off since 2012. Why do people ever expect this to change? The fact is that only 300 or so people want to play classic everquest pvp and nothing will ever change that. You have to just take this server at it's face value and enjoy it for what it is, or get your nostalgia fix then move on with your life.

I am not a high five guy but I would high five you.

[heartbrand]

I dunno why people talk about the pop as though it's a big deal. All MMO's have basically become instanced worlds for yourself and guild with little to no interaction with anyone else other than a central city hub where you use a trader and merchant. There's 200 pop here but I could name more people than I ever could when I was raiding in WoW.

[derpcake]

I dunno why people talk about the pop as though it's a big deal.

after some empire dudes get BIS gear and leave / quit, from what pool will they be cruiting?

euro-pool or cross-server transfers?

[heartbrand]

People said this in classic and kunark with Nihilum. People here are pretty sick, they don't quit, they just make more alts. The empire break showed that many mobs can be downed with mid to high 30's. I'd bet everything outside AoW and the fear dragons could be done with the right class make up with 30 something people.

[derpcake]

People said this in classic and kunark with Nihilum. People here are pretty sick, they don't quit, they just make more alts. The empire break showed that many mobs can be downed with mid to high 30's. I'd bet everything outside AoW and the fear dragons could be done with the right class make up with 30 something people.

are you still raiding with empire? or playing an alt?

[derpcake]

i mean before we still had the velious hype, but thats gone and past obviously

[Tassador]

classic eq red when pop was at 120ish was so good. Wouldn't trade any of those players for 5 of the blues we have now.

[Mus3t11]

after some empire dudes get BIS gear and leave / quit, from what pool will they be cruiting?

euro-pool or cross-server transfers?

There's alts to be geared also.

[derpcake]

when you see people like HB quit its pretty clear the end is near

[Smedy]

Are you willing to suffer with your fellow guildies and go thru the lows to reach the highs?


what are you talking about, empire didn't suffer, all their core members were in nihilum! aimchat is filled with psychopaths that wants to run things their way and they couldn't change things internally with nihilum so they took it outside of the game snitching and buddy questing gm's in order to gain top position.

then the scrubs joined and praised them as heroes for handing out drama free epics when in reality they had already gotten everything they wanted from nihilum, they were giving you shit they already had, duh.

when competition came to show (vaporize return) the beloved leaders of empire decided to sacrifice gyno in order to bring him down and once again secure that there would be absolutely zero competition on the server.

either way ames really put the nail in the coffin, this shits done son

[pgerman]

I dunno why people talk about the pop as though it's a big deal. All MMO's have basically become instanced worlds for yourself and guild with little to no interaction with anyone else other than a central city hub where you use a trader and merchant. There's 200 pop here but I could name more people than I ever could when I was raiding in WoW.


WALL OF TEXT< I DONT FEEL LIKE TROLLING TODAY

No one denying that other games suck even more, thats why some of us are still here, lol. There will never be another good MMO created, most of us know that . They don't make any money.

Pay-to-win, or super ultra care-bear worlds with instances like you said. The future is bleak for MMOs.

We could make this server fun, and actually create some sort of challenge, but people not really interested in that.

1. Guild cap at 45 members in a zone at one time , or adjacent connecting zones. Banhammer for any guilds that try to use un tagged members to rule lawyer numbers.

Keeps pvp and PVE more challenging. Put aside your hate, even colgate knows this is the way to go. Now that he is BIS gear he probably even agrees more !

2. Active GMs

3. Blue/red Xfers allowed, who cares about some idiot making 5 dollars a week on this game.

4. Actual set of rules, posted, set in stone, bans handed out by the active GMs that witness events. Replace sirken with someone who has actually played on an everquest pvp server. Nice guy and all but its too easy to "lobby" him.

5. Increase raid LNS timer to 4 hours.

6. GM rezs for anyone below 25, anyone cought trying to exploit GM time, by chain dieing/ rezing a character to train with gets all accounts banned.

7. Get caught lying to a GM you get banned, every account on your emu.


8. Forum accounts with posting privileges linked to in game characters above level 50, everyone else is only allowed to post in the trading/guild forums eliminates all trolling for fear of in game ban.

9. Tripple exp on Monday and Friday for anyone below level 25, more low level GM events advertised on Blue server and other websites. Plenty of things you can do to motivate people to play. It's a proven model on the pay to win games.

Basically its all the same, you need a handful of GMs that just like the game, don't have some weird problem with authority and work for free.

Above ideas are just a few, I don't personally like every single one, but I know how to create a better atmosphere for casuals, without destroying the game for more hardcore gamers.

[Bundy]

shine on you crazy diamond
http://i.imgur.com/u1pMHx7.jpg

[Uuruk]

WALL OF TEXT< I DONT FEEL LIKE TROLLING TODAY

No one denying that other games suck even more, thats why some of us are still here, lol. There will never be another good MMO created, most of us know that . They don't make any money.

Pay-to-win, or super ultra care-bear worlds with instances like you said. The future is bleak for MMOs.

We could make this server fun, and actually create some sort of challenge, but people not really interested in that.

1. Guild cap at 45 members in a zone at one time , or adjacent connecting zones. Banhammer for any guilds that try to use un tagged members to rule lawyer numbers.

Keeps pvp and PVE more challenging. Put aside your hate, even colgate knows this is the way to go. Now that he is BIS gear he probably even agrees more !

2. Active GMs

3. Blue/red Xfers allowed, who cares about some idiot making 5 dollars a week on this game.

4. Actual set of rules, posted, set in stone, bans handed out by the active GMs that witness events. Replace sirken with someone who has actually played on an everquest pvp server. Nice guy and all but its too easy to "lobby" him.

5. Increase raid LNS timer to 4 hours.

6. GM rezs for anyone below 25, anyone cought trying to exploit GM time, by chain dieing/ rezing a character to train with gets all accounts banned.

7. Get caught lying to a GM you get banned, every account on your emu.


8. Forum accounts with posting privileges linked to in game characters above level 50, everyone else is only allowed to post in the trading/guild forums eliminates all trolling for fear of in game ban.

9. Tripple exp on Monday and Friday for anyone below level 25, more low level GM events advertised on Blue server and other websites. Plenty of things you can do to motivate people to play. It's a proven model on the pay to win games.

Basically its all the same, you need a handful of GMs that just like the game, don't have some weird problem with authority and work for free.

Above ideas are just a few, I don't personally like every single one, but I know how to create a better atmosphere for casuals, without destroying the game for more hardcore gamers.

Yah, terrible fucking suggestions. Fuck off back to McDonald's.

[TacoSmasher]

WALL OF TEXT< I DONT FEEL LIKE TROLLING TODAY

No one denying that other games suck even more, thats why some of us are still here, lol. There will never be another good MMO created, most of us know that . They don't make any money.

Pay-to-win, or super ultra care-bear worlds with instances like you said. The future is bleak for MMOs.

We could make this server fun, and actually create some sort of challenge, but people not really interested in that.

1. Guild cap at 45 members in a zone at one time , or adjacent connecting zones. Banhammer for any guilds that try to use un tagged members to rule lawyer numbers.

Keeps pvp and PVE more challenging. Put aside your hate, even colgate knows this is the way to go. Now that he is BIS gear he probably even agrees more !

2. Active GMs

3. Blue/red Xfers allowed, who cares about some idiot making 5 dollars a week on this game.

4. Actual set of rules, posted, set in stone, bans handed out by the active GMs that witness events. Replace sirken with someone who has actually played on an everquest pvp server. Nice guy and all but its too easy to "lobby" him.

5. Increase raid LNS timer to 4 hours.

6. GM rezs for anyone below 25, anyone cought trying to exploit GM time, by chain dieing/ rezing a character to train with gets all accounts banned.

7. Get caught lying to a GM you get banned, every account on your emu.


8. Forum accounts with posting privileges linked to in game characters above level 50, everyone else is only allowed to post in the trading/guild forums eliminates all trolling for fear of in game ban.

9. Tripple exp on Monday and Friday for anyone below level 25, more low level GM events advertised on Blue server and other websites. Plenty of things you can do to motivate people to play. It's a proven model on the pay to win games.

Basically its all the same, you need a handful of GMs that just like the game, don't have some weird problem with authority and work for free.

Above ideas are just a few, I don't personally like every single one, but I know how to create a better atmosphere for casuals, without destroying the game for more hardcore gamers.

wow this faggot is rustled.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bd/Checkmark_green.svg

no one wants to hear your ideas about how other people should play on the server. shut up and go play the game with your exclusive group of friends

[Seltius]

WALL OF TEXT< I DONT FEEL LIKE TROLLING TODAY

No one denying that other games suck even more, thats why some of us are still here, lol. There will never be another good MMO created, most of us know that . They don't make any money.

Pay-to-win, or super ultra care-bear worlds with instances like you said. The future is bleak for MMOs.

We could make this server fun, and actually create some sort of challenge, but people not really interested in that.

1. Guild cap at 45 members in a zone at one time , or adjacent connecting zones. Banhammer for any guilds that try to use un tagged members to rule lawyer numbers.

Keeps pvp and PVE more challenging. Put aside your hate, even colgate knows this is the way to go. Now that he is BIS gear he probably even agrees more !

2. Active GMs

3. Blue/red Xfers allowed, who cares about some idiot making 5 dollars a week on this game.

4. Actual set of rules, posted, set in stone, bans handed out by the active GMs that witness events. Replace sirken with someone who has actually played on an everquest pvp server. Nice guy and all but its too easy to "lobby" him.

5. Increase raid LNS timer to 4 hours.

6. GM rezs for anyone below 25, anyone cought trying to exploit GM time, by chain dieing/ rezing a character to train with gets all accounts banned.

7. Get caught lying to a GM you get banned, every account on your emu.


8. Forum accounts with posting privileges linked to in game characters above level 50, everyone else is only allowed to post in the trading/guild forums eliminates all trolling for fear of in game ban.

9. Tripple exp on Monday and Friday for anyone below level 25, more low level GM events advertised on Blue server and other websites. Plenty of things you can do to motivate people to play. It's a proven model on the pay to win games.

Basically its all the same, you need a handful of GMs that just like the game, don't have some weird problem with authority and work for free.

Above ideas are just a few, I don't personally like every single one, but I know how to create a better atmosphere for casuals, without destroying the game for more hardcore gamers.

I like some of the suggestions in your post. Actually most of them minus the ones that mean a GM would have to log time on this game like it was a career because that is going to be very hard for a volunteer to commit to long term. Thank you for putting some thought and posting a constructive post instead of just trolling.

Naw pushing timers on mobs to give yourself an advantage isnt really what i meant, its tactical and smart IF your guild can constantly sustain a raid force at that time to down it. It takes 15 players to kill dracolich and even less for the golems.
Behavior that is really killing the server is the #1 guild is fielding 50+% of the level 60 population while another issue is that there isnt another guild that is even attempting to grow and progress and/or even attempting to kill things in NTOV with a dedicated effort. Shit was left up for weeks, Friends isnt a raiding guild but if anyone on the opposition is complaning about not getting raid mobs ( casual scum included) then look in the mirror and put some work in because its certainly possible. Ikatar can pretty much be killed with 20 people maybe less. Dain can be done by 40

Pushing timers is a legitimate tactic. It forces the other guild i.e. Empire to field a force during off hours which is the same it seems that Empire is doing during primetime US hours. Since their opposition plays during Euro primetime it seems. I am not taking sides on this because both sides griefed the hell out of my guild while we were building on the server. At the same time I don't blame either guild beyond stating the obvious.

[Mus3t11]

DBG needs to be notified of the severe psychoses developing here #realtalk.

Y'all are abandoning your wives/SO, causing irreparable physiological damage and are neglecting educations/careers.

The staff is laughing at you. Those who played on VZTZ are laughing at you. People who know you in real life are laughing at you. But hey, you're somebody on on R99...lol

[heartbrand]

I actually don't mind the majority of the suggestions, but I think the guild cap is self defeating. It would be too hard to enforce, too many people would form "ally" guilds, some would just quit all together when told they were at the 45 cap, etc. It would also seem unfair to the guild doing the PvE if no one was contesting them but they had to prevent others from attending. It is also an unrealistic number for things like Klandicar / Sontalak / Zlandicar / Vyemm / AoW / Tunare.

I think the answer lies in the other suggestions, which would hopefully increase pop. But, having played EQ2 PvP Progression server where there was a lot of contesting going on, it seems like burn out is inevitable for the losing guild in every MMO. I will say the difference there was when Banned started losing, they took a break, revamped their guild, recruited more people, then contested. For some reason that never happens here.

[Uuruk]

I actually don't mind the majority of the suggestions, but I think the guild cap is self defeating. It would be too hard to enforce, too many people would form "ally" guilds, some would just quit all together when told they were at the 45 cap, etc. It would also seem unfair to the guild doing the PvE if no one was contesting them but they had to prevent others from attending. It is also an unrealistic number for things like Klandicar / Sontalak / Zlandicar / Vyemm / AoW / Tunare.

I think the answer lies in the other suggestions, which would hopefully increase pop. But, having played EQ2 PvP Progression server where there was a lot of contesting going on, it seems like burn out is inevitable for the losing guild in every MMO. I will say the difference there was when Banned started losing, they took a break, revamped their guild, recruited more people, then contested. For some reason that never happens here.

I believe blue has kills in the 30s on both zland and kland

[heartbrand]

Hard to compare to blue where they all use rechargeable prayers of life in every group and soul fires.

[pgerman]

I actually don't mind the majority of the suggestions, but I think the guild cap is self defeating. It would be too hard to enforce, too many people would form "ally" guilds, some would just quit all together when told they were at the 45 cap, etc. It would also seem unfair to the guild doing the PvE if no one was contesting them but they had to prevent others from attending. It is also an unrealistic number for things like Klandicar / Sontalak / Zlandicar / Vyemm / AoW / Tunare.

I think the answer lies in the other suggestions, which would hopefully increase pop. But, having played EQ2 PvP Progression server where there was a lot of contesting going on, it seems like burn out is inevitable for the losing guild in every MMO. I will say the difference there was when Banned started losing, they took a break, revamped their guild, recruited more people, then contested. For some reason that never happens here.

Beating the content easily isnt the goal, its been done 6000x over.

Simple solutions to any of your concerns.

1. Easy to enforce, after a few raid bans on sleezy guild leaders trying to rule lawyer the GM , that wont happen. Key is a smart GM. That knows and is active on the server, if he sees two guilds together "friends" and "slosh", and he knows they are "allied", and have more than 45 members zerging the area. Pretty easy on a server to enforce. Big fights of 45 + are not common, and easy to police if your active on the server. Any GM that has been on the server more than 5 minutes can figure out the politics.


2. The list of mobs you've stated, just increase the allowed number to like 60 or whatever for those specific encounters. Pretty simple. Keep the content and pvp interesting. If a guild leader doesn't enforce these rules, hes banned. Simple. You would not have one violation.

3. Addressing your "why doesnt it happen here". ,The majority of people join one guild. There are no hard coded teams. So they flow like water. Wherever the easiest path lays. Nihilum to -------xxx zerg. Whatever it may be.
The only wild card on this server is who has sirkens "blesssing". Which has destroyed a lot of the motivation of any guilds up and coming. The fast track to sirkens magical skype. Most people with a brain see this, and say fuck that. I am not talking to some guy in skype to get simple shit done in game.

I'll say it over and over again, the server does not work because everquest requires full time GMs. In this case, probably around 4-6 GMs to ease the work load.

Everything else is just a waste of time to think about until there is server support.

[TacoSmasher]

check your immersion and fuck off back to blue dude

[Uuruk]

Beating the content easily isnt the goal, its been done 6000x over.

Simple solutions to any of your concerns.

1. Easy to enforce, after a few raid bans on sleezy guild leaders trying to rule lawyer the GM , that wont happen. Key is a smart GM. That knows and is active on the server, if he sees two guilds together "friends" and "slosh", and he knows they are "allied", and have more than 45 members zerging the area. Pretty easy on a server to enforce. Big fights of 45 + are not common, and easy to police if your active on the server. Any GM that has been on the server more than 5 minutes can figure out the politics.


2. The list of mobs you've stated, just increase the allowed number to like 60 or whatever for those specific encounters. Pretty simple. Keep the content and pvp interesting. If a guild leader doesn't enforce these rules, hes banned. Simple. You would not have one violation.

3. Addressing your "why doesnt it happen here". ,The majority of people join one guild. There are no hard coded teams. So they flow like water. Wherever the easiest path lays. Nihilum to -------xxx zerg. Whatever it may be.
The only wild card on this server is who has sirkens "blesssing". Which has destroyed a lot of the motivation of any guilds up and coming. The fast track to sirkens magical skype. Most people with a brain see this, and say fuck that. I am not talking to some guy in skype to get simple shit done in game.

I'll say it over and over again, the server does not work because everquest requires full time GMs. In this case, probably around 4-6 GMs to ease the work load.

Everything else is just a waste of time to think about until there is server support.

Fuck off back to your moms basement we don't care.

[Heebo]

WALL OF TEXT< I DONT FEEL LIKE TROLLING TODAY

No one denying that other games suck even more, thats why some of us are still here, lol. There will never be another good MMO created, most of us know that . They don't make any money.

Pay-to-win, or super ultra care-bear worlds with instances like you said. The future is bleak for MMOs.

We could make this server fun, and actually create some sort of challenge, but people not really interested in that.

1. Guild cap at 45 members in a zone at one time , or adjacent connecting zones. Banhammer for any guilds that try to use un tagged members to rule lawyer numbers.

Keeps pvp and PVE more challenging. Put aside your hate, even colgate knows this is the way to go. Now that he is BIS gear he probably even agrees more !

2. Active GMs

3. Blue/red Xfers allowed, who cares about some idiot making 5 dollars a week on this game.

4. Actual set of rules, posted, set in stone, bans handed out by the active GMs that witness events. Replace sirken with someone who has actually played on an everquest pvp server. Nice guy and all but its too easy to "lobby" him.

5. Increase raid LNS timer to 4 hours.

6. GM rezs for anyone below 25, anyone cought trying to exploit GM time, by chain dieing/ rezing a character to train with gets all accounts banned.

7. Get caught lying to a GM you get banned, every account on your emu.


8. Forum accounts with posting privileges linked to in game characters above level 50, everyone else is only allowed to post in the trading/guild forums eliminates all trolling for fear of in game ban.

9. Tripple exp on Monday and Friday for anyone below level 25, more low level GM events advertised on Blue server and other websites. Plenty of things you can do to motivate people to play. It's a proven model on the pay to win games.

Basically its all the same, you need a handful of GMs that just like the game, don't have some weird problem with authority and work for free.

Above ideas are just a few, I don't personally like every single one, but I know how to create a better atmosphere for casuals, without destroying the game for more hardcore gamers.
Beating the content easily isnt the goal, its been done 6000x over.

Simple solutions to any of your concerns.

1. Easy to enforce, after a few raid bans on sleezy guild leaders trying to rule lawyer the GM , that wont happen. Key is a smart GM. That knows and is active on the server, if he sees two guilds together "friends" and "slosh", and he knows they are "allied", and have more than 45 members zerging the area. Pretty easy on a server to enforce. Big fights of 45 + are not common, and easy to police if your active on the server. Any GM that has been on the server more than 5 minutes can figure out the politics.


2. The list of mobs you've stated, just increase the allowed number to like 60 or whatever for those specific encounters. Pretty simple. Keep the content and pvp interesting. If a guild leader doesn't enforce these rules, hes banned. Simple. You would not have one violation.

3. Addressing your "why doesnt it happen here". ,The majority of people join one guild. There are no hard coded teams. So they flow like water. Wherever the easiest path lays. Nihilum to -------xxx zerg. Whatever it may be.
The only wild card on this server is who has sirkens "blesssing". Which has destroyed a lot of the motivation of any guilds up and coming. The fast track to sirkens magical skype. Most people with a brain see this, and say fuck that. I am not talking to some guy in skype to get simple shit done in game.

I'll say it over and over again, the server does not work because everquest requires full time GMs. In this case, probably around 4-6 GMs to ease the work load.

Everything else is just a waste of time to think about until there is server support.

Your poor keyboard...

[Nirgon]

this Sirken slander should go over super great

he's a nice guy but don't fuck with him

[bolo]

you misunderstand; i legitimately do not care if there is an "opposition" or not

i'm going to keep playing the game the way it was designed to be played, no matter how mad it makes the people on the outside looking in

This means game over. There won't be a pool to recruit from...
I guess grats on your victory. Who are you going to show off your BiS chars now if noboby is around?

[Mus3t11]

he's a nice guy


http://replygif.net/i/132.gif

[Nirgon]

Blame the people logging in, putting effort in and having fun instead of the people not logging in, not trying, qqing for wipe?

Thats like the people who didnt vote complaining about election results

At least 3 of their top time invested players/looting taking players are on shadow knights

Yes, we can blame the players here for not downing the targets Lasher mentioned.

[Ragnaros]

You are very misinformed Nirgon, yeah they pvp on their shadowknights but aren't allowed to play them when we do raid

[Nirgon]

him being a well mannered person is a fact

he's not a raging autistic beard case like the people who expect him to be at their beck and call 24-7

[Tradesonred]

600 weeks until it comes out you mean?

lol'd

Still loling

[Tradesonred]

Context

600 for discord? thoughts?

[Tradesonred]

you misunderstand; i legitimately do not care if there is an "opposition" or not

i'm going to keep playing the game the way it was designed to be played, no matter how mad it makes the people on the outside looking in

I guess the only thing that ever bothered him about Nihilum was the name, since now his outfit and outlook is a carbon copy of Nihilum

Although in eras gone by he pretended otherwise

[Redi]

eliminate YTs. People so hung up on stupid board kdr. Is why newbie groups get killed: people want to pad it. Its why binds are camped. Eliminate YT and pvp board pop will go up. people will stop hugging ZLs and battle because there wont be the kdr thing over their heads. Fights become fun and not on a permanent record and people won't grief to pad their numbers.

+

but yes i agree the current oppositions attitude is THE MAIN issue of the servers state

[Videri]

eliminate YTs. People so hung up on stupid board kdr. ... Fights become fun and not on a permanent record

I would love this. I would rather take more chances and get my licks in.

the server does not work because everquest requires full time GMs. In this case, probably around 4-6 GMs to ease the work load.

Everything else is just a waste of time to think about until there is server support.

I think Barcode is right about this. It would be great to see an active GM presence. It is probably the only thing that could improve the culture of the server, too.

[Videri]

Also, <Friends> is not "the opposition." The guild does not exist to oppose <Empire>. It's just for friends to have fun playing Everquest and PvPing. We kill raid mobs when we have enough online to take down a mob that's up.

[Redi]

That's why friends.members are the most vocal and whiney about what other people do

U ain't fooling any 1 dude

[Videri]

That's why friends.members are the most vocal and whiney about what other people do

U ain't fooling any 1 dude

Except for Jeni's hilarious trolling and Ragnaros posting astutely about the state of the server, I don't really see any of our guys whining. Examples or adjust statement?

[Videri]

I think we see more burned-out <Empire> guys and other people who don't play complaining.

[Doors]

That's why friends.members are the most vocal and whiney about what other people do

U ain't fooling any 1 dude

[miraclegrow2]

If you have fun when you login, you are winning.

Nothing else matters.

[vouss]

you misunderstand; i legitimately do not care if there is an "opposition" or not

i'm going to keep playing the game the way it was designed to be played, no matter how mad it makes the people on the outside looking in

you misunderstand; i legitimately do not care if there is an "opposition" or not

i'm going to keep playing the game the way it was designed to be played, no matter how mad it makes the people on the outside looking in

[Mus3t11]

I wanna know what Colgate's foster parents have to say about his box career.

[heartbrand]

I wanna know what Colgate's foster parents have to say about his box career.

me too


































































nope not an overly immersed weirdo like u

[Redi]

Ok, weird post

[fiegi 8.0]

I wanna know what Colgate's foster parents have to say about his box career.

one of the most bizarre posts I've read in quite some time, seek help.:o:o

[Mus3t11]

<Empire> cuckwagon fully loaded.

Sorry to break the post train, continue.

[Efwan]

I wanna know what Colgate's foster parents have to say about his box career.

Huh? Dracuckis just stop

[Seltius]

one of the most bizarre posts I've read in quite some time, seek help.:o:o

Definitely not reading the same forums I am. Because every 2nd or 3rd post on these forums would be weird outside of P99 and even inside of P99 most times.

[Nirgon]

me too


































































nope not an overly immersed weirdo like u

[Barladore]

I think we see more burned-out <Empire> guys and other people who don't play complaining.

[dis_mornin]

Read these posts and am surprised by how dumb people are... And how this same conversation is still going on etc.. But then I remember its a bunch of inbred basement dwellers still addicted to the same game released almost 17 years ago that are posting here. So it makes sense

[Genedin]

Read these posts and am surprised by how dumb people are... And how this same conversation is still going on etc.. But then I remember its a bunch of inbred basement dwellers still addicted to the same game released almost 17 years ago that are posting here. So it makes sense

Was thinking the same thing.

You could literally go 3 years back and find the same posts made just from different people.

[Mus3t11]

Hey guys, sub 200 pop prime time Friday.



Just your friendly server status update.

[magician]

Hey guys, sub 200 pop prime time Friday.



Just your friendly server status update.

who are you?

[Mus3t11]

who are you?

Just a concerned bystander.

[Slathar]

Read these posts and am surprised by how dumb people are... And how this same conversation is still going on etc.. But then I remember its a bunch of inbred basement dwellers still addicted to the same game released almost 17 years ago that are posting here. So it makes sense

Aviato
Mornin
Incognito


who else

[Drakaris]

Huh? Dracuckis just stop

I'm not musetii you dumb fuck.

[Mus3t11]

I'm not musetii you dumb fuck.

I'm Drakar

[AenorVZ]

they took it outside of the game snitching and buddy questing gm's in order to gain top position.

Oh so the same people who buddy quested their way to the top on VZTZ did the same thing here? Sirken got a lot to answer for.

[Rekrul]

What about the fact that there is no new content coming to this server?

[Colgate]

guess it means i'll be killing vulak`aerr and the avatar of war until the end of time

[Lasher]

180 people on at 130 am, 10 empire on, 18 empire logged in to TS.

[Drakaris]

guess it means i'll be killing vulak`aerr and the avatar of war until the end of time

You're one fucked up kid.

[lethdar]

Read these posts and am surprised by how dumb people are... And how this same conversation is still going on etc.. But then I remember its a bunch of inbred basement dwellers still addicted to the same game released almost 17 years ago that are posting here. So it makes sense

you stumpin for trump bro? its almost time for aim chat presidential debate time

[James_Joyce]

you stumpin for trump bro? its almost time for aim chat presidential debate time

if there's any debate you're obviously infested with fags

[dis_mornin]

Aviato
Mornin
Incognito


who else

You have level 60s on blue.

[dis_mornin]

you stumpin for trump bro? its almost time for aim chat presidential debate time

Grab Solid and I'll see you in Elfpals to debate the issues.

I will need to track down Cast though. He probably in Iowa going hard for trumps ground game in preparation of the caucus. Door to door making America great again

[Nirgon]

no doubt Cast opening Doors for Emperor Trump

[Doors]

Mornin is definitely the smartest person here for sure.

Dude thought torpor was a worthless spell. LOL.

[dis_mornin]

Mornin is definitely the smartest person here for sure.

Dude thought torpor was a worthless spell. LOL.

Not going to begin to try to explain supply and demand to some uneducated inbred who needed to sell his in game characters to make rent

[Uuruk]

Not going to begin to try to explain supply and demand to some uneducated inbred who needed to sell his in game characters to make rent

YIKES

true too

[Doors]

Everything Mornin owns was RMTed at some point, but getting back on point.

Two weeks after they buffed shamans to godmode with the blind changes he said Torpor wasn't going to sell for anything.

Long story short I sold 5 copies of torpor for 15-20k a piece.

Guess having an associates accounting degree doesn't mean what it used to.

[pgerman]

Everything Mornin owns was RMTed at some point, but getting back on point.

Two weeks after they buffed shamans to godmode with the blind changes he said Torpor wasn't going to sell for anything.

Long story short I sold 5 copies of torpor for 15-20k a piece.

Guess having an associates accounting degree doesn't mean what it used to.


So wait, you spent how many years lieing to protect these scumlords?

When bromance goes bad. God bless everquest

[Doors]

When bromance goes bad.

Mornin is a huge faggot that I've never been cool with.

[pgerman]

Mornin is a huge faggot that I've never been cool with.


Interesting, so why do you think mornin always gets away with his RMT schemes?

[Slathar]

You have level 60s on blue.

this fact wont make you slim or not bald

[fiegi 8.0]

You have level 60s on blue.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/1377747739_cringe.gif

This true? Glad to announce i've never killed a single npc on a blue server in my everquest history :):):):D:D:D:p:p:):

[Slathar]

https://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/1377747739_cringe.gif

This true? Glad to announce i've never killed a single npc on a blue server in my everquest history :):):):D:D:D:p:p:):

gr8 gif

got any other circa 2008 material to defend your fat ugly bald friend or naw

[fiegi 8.0]

gr8 gif

got any other circa 2008 material to defend your fat ugly bald friend or naw

naw thats all i got you bastard

[Tassador]

i got to level 5 on a halfling warrior on blue. no shower could ever clean that stank off my ass.

[dis_mornin]

Mornin is a huge faggot that I've never been cool with.

LOL god doors. I've trolled a lot of people into being butt hurt in my day. Retti.. HB... And so on.. But no one has been so easily manipulated and fucked with as you. God bless you.

Still mad his shitty druid couldn't ride the AQ train.

[Drakaris]

LOL god doors. I've trolled a lot of people into being butt hurt in my day. Retti.. HB... And so on.. But no one has been so easily manipulated and fucked with as you. God bless you.

Still mad his shitty druid couldn't ride the AQ train.

Empire bashing the shit out of each other. I love this shit!

Eta on the implosion?

[Nirgon]

long as dozekar, vulak and AoW loots rain down there will be no implosion

[Redi]

I farmed mornin everytime we saw each other in classic back when people didn't plug

[dis_mornin]

I farmed mornin everytime we saw each other in classic back when people didn't plug

Think everyone in classic understood who the alpha druid was. Just ask mellowyellows fat ass

[vouss]

lol'd at thread but Nirgon is right

[Tradesonred]

#1 Top pvp guild america

[Tomm Selleck]

Think everyone in classic understood who the alpha druid was. Just ask mellowyellows fat ass

ravi the real mvp

[Mus3t11]

#1 Top pvp guild america

Lol. Excellent.