VD = BAD

[Uberom]

Apparently, according to Vesica Gay, you can zerg a camp and that gives you the right to it.


Fucking bads.

[Hasbinbad]

inb4umad

[RapidScotch]

This is obviously the best approach to taking care of these kinds of situations. Is gay even offensive anymore?

[azeth]

Vesica Gay.

pff i read this post like 4 times and just now noticed this.

While I disagree with your statement sir, I'll defend to the death your right to post it.

[Ducky]

After you looted GEB's, you posted "<Link> You mad bro?"... Now i ask you.... YOU MAD BRO!?

[Uberom]

Yea, I am. I'm super mad. Fuck following rules. Might as well just start running in on camps and killing w/e. Apparently you can get away with it now.

[Kassel]

these details seem very sketchy. The only thing i am getting out of this situation is that a bro be mad.

[Seaweedpimp]

WHATS GOING ON HERE?

[Uberom]

ILL TELL YOU!! GOD DAMN LOSER?? IM A YOUNG DOCTOR!!!

ROFLLLLLL

[YendorLootmonkey]

Yeah, a little more specific about what happened please? Did you contact one of our officers for help?

[Seaweedpimp]

ILL TELL YOU!! GOD DAMN LOSER?? IM A YOUNG DOCTOR!!!

ROFLLLLLL

This is becoming trendy FFAASSTT.

[Uberom]

I'm not going into the whole damn story because it takes forever. I was duoing efreeti spawn, succesfully, when VD group showed up and basically just took the camp. Obviously being a duo, you don't steamroll mobs when they spawn. You have to time things and be skilled with CC. Being a full group of 6, VD just came up and killed everything in sight, including the mobs we used as charmed pets to clear the camp. We petitioned, the GM could only figure out that we indeed were the first ones in camp, yet he said " roll for the camp". ROFL.

So apparently, if you want a camp in P1999, you have to /ran 100 and win everytime somebody else wants it.

Hey Vesica Dei, fuck you.

[Seaweedpimp]

Thats pretty low.

[tnyadno]

INC posts by VD flame.

[Acillatem]

MAG (OP) + ENC pacify Efreeti Room. They proceed to kill Efreeti. Sometime in between Efreeti kill and PH respawning, the ENC dies.

We (VD) show up after ENC died. I Eye of Zomm into the Efreeti room. ALL mobs are spawned (including the Efreeti PHer) At this point the MAG is /oocing some shit about how efreeti is his. So I respond in /ooc to pull the room (or the PHer). Anyone that was in Sol B might remember me saying in /ooc something along the lines of *fine you were here first, pull the room*.

Obviously he can't without the ENC there. So I look up on the P99 forums for Camps Defined. It clearly states that a player cannot claim a camp if he cannot clear it without further help. Since the ENC was dead and not in camp - he needed further help therefore cannot claim the camp.

So ya - we pacified the room and proceeded to kill.

ENC shows back up after room is pacified - we both continue to sit there as they /petitioned.

The only reasons we stayed to claim the spawn is:

1)The room was fully re-spawned therefore you couldn't claim the camp was still broken and it required an ENC to break the spawn again.

2)The ENC of said duo was dead and not present.

3)The MAG, when given the opportunity to pull the PHer, didn't.

Sorry but some singular MAG sitting up there, not killing anything even after I offer the opportunity in /ooc to do so - does not constitute someone *camping* the efreeti. It constitutes someone *waiting for someone else to camp efreeti*.

[Uberom]

OH and just 1 additional little fact. The last ph we killed was the Efreeti himself, thereby showing that we indeed had the camp under control. Hell, even called Efreeti was camped multiple times in /ooc.

I don't know why a full group would run all the way up to Efreeti after the camp has been called several times....

oh, duh, that's right.

TO STEAL IT!

/ran 100

[tnyadno]

They can lie all day, so I'll join them.


I haven't left the camp since the server started, I died to the Efreeti before you came but managed to pick pocket the GEBs. I quickly telewalked to my corpse and used my super boom stick to go back in time. Then the rock flew by the air cloud into dirt and collided with the sky.

Can I app for VD now? I feel I belong with you guys.

[Humerox]

This is Paul Harvey. You know the news; in a moment, you're going to hear The Rest of The Story!!

[Uberom]

How you pull the camp is up to you, as long as you are able to engage the mobs very shortly after they are spawned.


Quoted directly from Camps Defined. It was our camp, ENC was back before PH was up you retard, and its none of your business HOW we pull it. Obviously being a duo, our pull and rotation is different than a full group of VD retards.

You successfully stole the camp, congratulations you fucking idiot.

I have zero respect for VD.

Oh and btw, funny thing is, even after they came, we still pulled EVERY PH that popped, we made sure of it. They always got stuck on the roamers. ROFL.

Fucking baddies will be bad.

/ran 100 bro. you win. gj.

[Uberom]

They can lie all day, so I'll join them.


I haven't left the camp since the server started, I died to the Efreeti before you came but managed to pick pocket the GEBs. I quickly telewalked to my corpse and used my super boom stick to go back in time. Then the rock flew by the air cloud into dirt and collided with the sky.

Can I app for VD now? I feel I belong with you guys.

THIS.
THIS.
THIS.

This was exactly what VD sounded like when they told their story to GM. Completely hilarious.

Apparently ENC died to Efreeti, so I soloed it as a MAGE. No big deal. Server first?

[tnyadno]

No bro, let me talk to them.

The tree flew into the jiggly bean and roasted the burger bun jungle gym school we flew by air moon dirt land funny school LOL fal ju bn sm euu alllp neeuu aaffff. See my point? Errr, Imp camp ench die roll gm us.

[tnyadno]

These guys must have went to the school of IB officers because they make as much sense and logic as trystych on a hate raid. Moot Point bro.

[Uberom]

Heres my reenactment of what took place.

VD: "Hey is this camped"
Us: "Yes"
VD: "ORLY WHY IS THAT MOB IN TEH CORNER STILL ALIVE?"
Us: "Wha......"
VD: "OK WELL IF YOU CANT KILL IT WE ARE GOING TO TAKE IT WE WILL GIVE YOU 5 SECONDS TO DO SO...."
Us: "Ummm, excuse me ....?"

kladjfakl;sdjfl;akga;ldkfjladsjfak sdfj entire camp is cleared.

VD: "Ok, our camp now. "
Us: "Wtf? " /petition
GM: "Well I see "Us" was the last one to kill efreeti....."
VD: "YA BUT ENC DIE AND DEN WE KILL NOW IT OURS RIGHT"
GM: "God damnitt w/e just roll on the camp......"
Us: "Actually, fuck all of you, take it you fucking camp stealers.."

Vesica Dei has defeated LOGIC in a duel to the death!
Your faction with P1999 Community has decreased.

Get fucking raped, baddies.

[Seaweedpimp]

DAMN in my mind i was trying to figure out here whats right. First i know uber so i was saying shit, VD that? Pretty rude... Then i read VDs story and was thinking well, maybe uber did die or whatnot and id be pissed too but the rules are rules. THEN i read the rest of his post and im thinking VD skrewed up here.

[Nakara]

Sorry but some singular MAG sitting up there, not killing anything even after I offer the opportunity in /ooc to do so - does not constitute someone *camping* the efreeti. It constitutes someone *waiting for someone else to camp efreeti*.

whether you technically broke the server rules or not...do you not see how this makes you guys look like assholes? if a group wipes/partially wipes it's called being considerate to let them return to the camp at which they died and continue.

[M.Bison]

DAMN in my mind i was trying to figure out here whats right. First i know uber so i was saying shit, VD that? Pretty rude... Then i read VDs story and was thinking well, maybe uber did die or whatnot and id be pissed too but the rules are rules. THEN i read the rest of his post and im thinking VD skrewed up here.

http://cdn3.knowyourmeme.com/i/3419/original/yo-dawg-at-first-i-was-like.jpg

[Uberom]

whether you technically broke the server rules or not...do you not see how this makes you guys look like assholes? if a group wipes/partially wipes it's called being considerate to let them return to the camp at which they died and continue.

The funny thing is. they said that in OOC, WHILE they were clearing the camp.

LOL.

My ENC was back before PH was even popped. But again, its NOT up for discussion how we clear OUR camp, its ours. You can't roll into someones camp and say

"If you dont kill that mob RIGHT NOW, we are taking this camp"

Thats not how it works, people have mana, and limitations, and downtime. Especially being a duo. These guys straight stole the camp. I know what the fuck I'm talking about.

Cheers for being horrible, VD.

[Teeroyoyort]

So your enchanter friend died, and you couldn't handle the camp by your lonesome self. VD comes in, takes advantage of said opportunity (probably not the nicest of things), and kills everything. All while the enchanter finally comes back and all hell breaks loose? Then later you take every Efreeti while VD is killing the surrounding mobs? That's wonderful. Maybe if your enchanter friend didn't die you wouldn't have had this problem. Tell me something like he died because of a resist to lull. So I can say, next time don't take the risk of duo'n w/o a healer, and loosing your camp.

[Ihealyou]

World AIDS day was yesterday?

[Kassel]

I know what the fuck I'm talking about.

Because you are a young doctor?

[Nakara]

Maybe if your enchanter friend didn't die you wouldn't have had this problem. Tell me something like he died because of a resist to lull. So I can say, next time don't take the risk of duo'n w/o a healer, and loosing your camp.

except this isn't how camps work with rational people

[Ronas]

Apparently, according to Vesica Gay, you can zerg a camp and that gives you the right to it.


You had to paci the camp?? zerg fail.

[Humerox]

He's a Young Doctor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qm72KyRlHGE&feature=related)?

[Uberom]

So your enchanter friend died, and you couldn't handle the camp by your lonesome self. VD comes in, takes advantage of said opportunity (probably not the nicest of things), and kills everything. All while the enchanter finally comes back and all hell breaks loose? Then later you take every Efreeti while VD is killing the surrounding mobs? That's wonderful. Maybe if your enchanter friend didn't die you wouldn't have had this problem. Tell me something like he died because of a resist to lull. So I can say, next time don't take the risk of duo'n w/o a healer, and loosing your camp.

After we killed Efreeti, we both went bio AFK.
I came back to see ENC dead, I killed the roamer that killed him.
Said ENC is bound outside of SOLB.
Said ENC comes back to his corpse, trailing VD who is clearing without question anything they come across.

Our spawn wasn't even fully popped. We lull and charm pets and run a ROTATION, because we're a duo, and have to keep a consistent and safe camp. Obviously having to take a piss in real life fucked that up, but still, I was still at camp calling it. Just because you see a mob up in a camp doesn't mean its a fucking free for all for the entire thing.

How we run our camp is not up for discussion. I was physically there, the ENC was physically there, before the full rotation was ready to be killed.

The problem was, VD decided if it was up, it was free, so they killed everything we used to make ENC pets with.

The party who is camping the spawn decides how the FUCK it is pulled, not some jackasses who roll up all johnny come lately.

Read the server rules on CAMPS DEFINED.
Shut the fuck up, and delete your account.

[YendorLootmonkey]

1. Going forward, if you intend to hold or claim a camp, your group must retain presence at that camp. If you have no competition in the zone, you are more than welcome to hold as many as you like. The moment another party wants to claim a camp and you are "farming" multiple, you must decide which camp you want and forfeit the ones someone else is interested in. We still expect players to use the courtesy camp check before zerging a room. If there is a full spawn of mobs in a camp room up I think that would be considered not camped. How you pull the camp is up to you, as long as you are able to engage the mobs very shortly after they are spawned.

4. In order to hold a camp, the player or group must be able to demonstrate the ability to hold the camp without further help.
*Example* An enchanter and lvl 40 ranger are in a group. The enchanter leaves to go kill frenzy and the ranger stay at lord. In this instance both camps are not considered held as the ranger could not survive this camp on his own without the enchanter.

So I guess the pertinent question here is, can the mage pull, engage, and kill Freeti on his own without the help of the Enchanter to pacify/lull the other camp mobs? If no, then #4 applies... the enchanter is gone for whatever reason, the remaining player could not survive the camp on his own until the enchanter returns. At that point, the camp is not held.

If the mage can pull, engage, and kill Freeti on his own while the area was full spawn, then why was that not demonstrated when requested?

If it was because you were low mana or whatever, and because your enchanter friend died, then it sounds like you weren't able to maintain the camp.

Agree with Teeroy... was it the most considerate? Probably not. Legit? Depends on the answers to the above questions. Are people as considerate with Lord, Frenzy, Planes, etc?

Everything is camped to high hell, with lines of players waiting. For Freeti. For Frenzy. For Lord. For the Planes. Going in to duo Freeti is risk vs. reward... you risk fucking up, getting one or both of you killed, and losing the camp because you could not keep it. Your reward is you only have to share the loot drops with one other person. You knew the risks going in, just like a necro or enchanter soloing Frenzy does.

[Lazortag]

After we killed Efreeti, we both went bio AFK.
I came back to see ENC dead, I killed the roamer that killed him.
Said ENC is bound outside of SOLB.
Said ENC comes back to his corpse, trailing VD who is clearing without question anything they come across.

Our spawn wasn't even fully popped. We lull and charm pets and run a ROTATION, because we're a duo, and have to keep a consistent and safe camp. Obviously having to take a piss in real life fucked that up, but still, I was still at camp calling it. Just because you see a mob up in a camp doesn't mean its a fucking free for all for the entire thing.

How we run our camp is not up for discussion. I was physically there, the ENC was physically there, before the full rotation was ready to be killed.

The problem was, VD decided if it was up, it was free, so they killed everything we used to make ENC pets with.

The party who is camping the spawn decides how the FUCK it is pulled, not some jackasses who roll up all johnny come lately.

Read the server rules on CAMPS DEFINED.
Shut the fuck up, and delete your account.

Why did you both bio break at the same time? Come on, that's just noobish.

[Uberom]

So I guess the pertinent question here is, can the mage pull, engage, and kill Freeti on his own without the help of the Enchanter to pacify/lull the other camp mobs? If no, then #4 applies... the enchanter is gone for whatever reason, the remaining player could not survive the camp on his own until the enchanter returns. At that point, the camp is not held.

If the mage can pull, engage, and kill Freeti on his own while the area was full spawn, then why was that not demonstrated when requested?

If it was because you were low mana or whatever, and because your enchanter friend died, then it sounds like you weren't able to maintain the camp.

Agree with Teeroy... was it the most considerate? Probably not. Legit? Depends on the answers to the above questions. Are people as considerate with Lord, Frenzy, Planes, etc?

Everything is camped to high hell, with lines of players waiting. For Freeti. For Frenzy. For Lord. For the Planes. Going in to duo Freeti is risk vs. reward... you risk fucking up, getting one or both of you killed, and losing the camp because you could not keep it. Your reward is you only have to share the loot drops with one other person. You knew the risks going in, just like a necro or enchanter soloing Frenzy does.

NO YOU JACKASS BECAUSE EFREETI WAS ALREADY DEAD, BECAUSE WE JUST KILLED HIM!

FUCKING MORONS.

[Humerox]

Why did you both bio break at the same time? Come on, that's just noobish.

They needed to run a ROTATION.

Sorry...couldn't help it....

[YendorLootmonkey]

NO YOU JACKASS BECAUSE EFREETI WAS ALREADY DEAD, BECAUSE WE JUST KILLED HIM!

FUCKING MORONS.

I don't care when he was killed. You're glossing over the one rule that destroys your argument:

4. In order to hold a camp, the player or group must be able to demonstrate the ability to hold the camp without further help.
*Example* An enchanter and lvl 40 ranger are in a group. The enchanter leaves to go kill frenzy and the ranger stay at lord. In this instance both camps are not considered held as the ranger could not survive this camp on his own without the enchanter.

This makes no mention of Lord being up, just having been killed, or whatever. The fact remains that if the ranger is there, at Lord, in an empty camp... IT IS NOT CAMPED BECAUSE THE RANGER (TRUST ME, I KNOW) WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO KEEP IT CLEAR.

Can you pull and engage Freeti (regardless of whether he or the PH is up) on your own without your enchanter friend to pacify/lull/charm pets to help kill it? Just answer the question, bro. :)

[Nakara]

I don't care when he was killed. You're glossing over the one rule that destroys your argument:


and you're missing the post where he said the enchanter was bound outside and returned to camp right after he died before the next spawn

[Nakara]

also its always been common courtesy to allow wipes to get back to the camp before mobs respawn

who cares about the technicality of the rules, how bout stop being douches

[YendorLootmonkey]

and you're missing the post where he said the enchanter was bound outside and returned to camp right after he died before the next spawn

It doesn't matter that he returned before the next spawn. The part I quoted is completely independent of the spawns in the camp. It states that if an enchanter and a ranger are sitting at Lord, and the enchanter leaves to go Frenzy (presumably after clearing Lord... why would the enchanter bail on the ranger when Lord was about to pop?) at the point the enchanter leaves, Lord is uncamped.

Having said that, WHO THE HELL IN THE HISTORY OF EVERQUEST takes a bio break simultaneously along with their duo partner, leaving both characters unattended?

At least get yourself a laptop with an aircard so you can bring it into the shitter with you so you can move either your mage or your enchanter around and not leave both of them unattended. ;)

[Nakara]

It doesn't matter that he returned before the next spawn.

yes it does. the mage was never in a position where he would have to solo the spawn, unlike your example.

you're obviously a dick who doesn't care about common courtesy like most high end players though, so i'm sure you'll continue to mindlessly quote a technicality in the ruleset

[Uberom]

I don't care when he was killed. You're glossing over the one rule that destroys your argument:



This makes no mention of Lord being up, just having been killed, or whatever. The fact remains that if the ranger is there, at Lord, in an empty camp... IT IS NOT CAMPED BECAUSE THE RANGER (TRUST ME, I KNOW) WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO KEEP IT CLEAR.

Can you pull and engage Freeti (regardless of whether he or the PH is up) on your own without your enchanter friend to pacify/lull/charm pets to help kill it? Just answer the question, bro. :)

Also, your quoting a rule that applies to people camping multiple camps.

We were camping 1 spawn.

And as I keep saying, I dont have to "demonstrate" to anyone that I can solo the camp. It's obviously demonstrated when you see half the fucking camp is dead and Djarn was just killed, fucking moron. At any 1 point in time you can't be like,

"Oh well I dont think you can maintain this full spawn, so Im going to take it"

That's not how it works. Its my spawn until I die or don't pull mobs for a period that is unreasonable, as per the rules. Obviously we were pulling mobs at a reasonable rate, because again, half the spawn was fucking killed.

Once again, the people who run the camp decide how fast it gets killed, not the people who are challenging it.

I'd like to once again reiterate that even though VD members said in /ooc "Show us this is yours by killing it", they continued to pull mobs non stop, thereby eliminating all ENC pets we were to use in clearing OUR camp.

Now, we could have charmed one of them and made it our pet, but we don't FUCKING KILLSTEAL other peoples shit.

Stop trying to defend your guild, Lootbitch, you weren't there. They know they were fucking wrong, everyone on this forum knows it, and if you don't think so, have someone come to your camp and tell you how to pull and what/ when to pull, and tell me what you fucking think....

fucking baddies will be BAD.

[Roofie]

T
My ENC was back before PH was even popped.

So you're saying you're 2 boxing? :eek:

[Uberom]

So you're saying you're 2 boxing? :eek:

ROFL. Here we go again with VD's crazy theories.

According to one theory they told the GM: ENC died and I soloed Efreeti.

... LMFAO. wow

When I say "My ENC" I guess it's short for "MY friend, who is an ENCHANTER".....

But if you want to pursue that claim, DateRape or Roofie or Analbeads or w/e the hell your gamename is.... please entertain me.

[Uberom]

God damn you VD kids are just terrible in general...

Your arguments are bad, your logic is bad, you can't prove a point or even discredit another's ....

You just keep losing every post that I counter...

Fucking concede to me now bitches..../disband your shit guild.....it bores me.

[Crone]

Hey man, I'm curious. What pet you use down there on the mage to help out? Earth for root? Air for aggro/stun?

Thanks man. Keep fighting the man.

[Roofie]

After we killed Efreeti, we both went bio AFK.

When people 2 box.. They tend to bio at the same time.. And yes you were Date raped. :rolleyes:

[Gawain]

you ASSUME you know all the facts. 90% of the time, you don't. Situations are handled between the staff and the players directly involved. Any dialog between a GM and a player can be considered a private matter, and will not be open to public debate. Players will divulge their interactions with GM's as they see fit, maybe giving all details and maybe not disclosing all of it, and quite possible they themselves aren't aware of every point of consideration in a staff decision.

The fact is, you petitioned. The GM or guide listened to both sides and got both stories. From ALL of the information it was decided that you random for it. Apparently it wasn't such an open and shut case. Deal with it.

[Uberom]

The fact is, you petitioned. The GM or guide listened to both sides and got both stories. From ALL of the information it was decided that you random for it. Apparently it wasn't such an open and shut case. Deal with it.

Get the fuck off my thread.

Thanks.

[YendorLootmonkey]

"I gotta take a shit, dude... bio break."
"Me too. Can't wait... been brewing this deuce forever."
"... it's just us two. We can't both bio break at the same time."
"I have to take a huge dump. Right now. Can you wait?"
"No, it's about to come out sideways."
"Fuck. What do we do?"
"Lets hurry it up and pinch it off ASAP, before the roamer comes through... hope for the best."
"Okay, I'll try to shit real fast."
"One, two, three, go...."

[Acillatem]

1) We left 5 mobs up on the ramp - the only mobs we killed were pathers. Charm what you want. Well....after the ENC gets back that is (doh!) :)

2) Again - the room was fully repopped. Obviously you are claiming it wasn't /shrug. No point in going back and forth over this. Especially since you were out by the false ledge....and the ENC didn't get there till we were already pulling......yet I WAS in the room (via Eye of Zomm).....but yes.....you are in a better position to argue this point than I am. /sarcasm off

3)I offered you the opportunity to pull the PHer while I checked the P99 boards about the Camp Rules. Why would I do that if it wasn't up? (hmmm)

Was it a dick move to even bother regardless of the rules? Absolutely. And had OP been in any other guild on the server - I probably would have said screw it and left. However, his guild has made it clear their feelings about some general "Play Nice Policies" - even when I had tried a 1 on 1 with their Guildleader about it last week. So you reap what you sew.

4)So to sum up: Efreeti was killed by OP, however upon re-spawn of said placeholder, the MAG was unable to hold the camp without further assistance. I realize your pull method is to pacify everything, charm the roamer, pull the efreeti (or it's placeholder). However without the ENC there - you had ZERO method of pulling the camp - whether it was a single placeholder or the room itself.

So you lost the spawn. As far as calling me a liar? I'm not going to go back and forth with the insults. I'm just stating the things I know firsthand. /shrug

[Nakara]

you still haven't explained why it's ok for you to be a douche and not have the courtesy to let a group recover from a wipe

[Nakara]

oh wait there it is, because of the guild he's in, lol

[Nakara]

upstanding citizen's brigade

[Lazortag]

"I gotta take a shit, dude... bio break."
"Me too. Can't wait... been brewing this deuce forever."
"... it's just us two. We can't both bio break at the same time."
"I have to take a huge dump. Right now. Can you wait?"
"No, it's about to come out sideways."
"Fuck. What do we do?"
"Lets hurry it up and pinch it off ASAP, before the roamer comes through... hope for the best."
"Okay, I'll try to shit real fast."
"One, two, three, go...."

Now that you've described the situation I have a bit more sympathy for them.

Just kidding.

Seriously uberom, why haven't you responded to me? Why would you both bio break at the same time?

[YendorLootmonkey]

you still haven't explained why it's ok for you to be a douche and not have the courtesy to let a group recover from a wipe

Was it a dick move to even bother regardless of the rules? Absolutely. And had OP been in any other guild on the server - I probably would have said screw it and left. However, his guild has made it clear their feelings about some general "Play Nice Policies" - even when I had tried a 1 on 1 with their Guildleader about it last week. So you reap what you sew.

[Nakara]

wow bro good job reading the post after that

[YendorLootmonkey]

Kind of like how you missed it reading the post above yours? :)

[Nakara]

i did not i only respond in 1 liners

[Nakara]

unless someone is being really dumb, then they get 2

[Stefen]

The fact is, you petitioned. The GM or guide listened to both sides and got both stories. From ALL of the information it was decided that you random for it. Apparently it wasn't such an open and shut case. Deal with it.

You have very* clearly never had any sort of camp dispute on this server involving a GM. I have seen many in recent weeks, and in general they play out like this:

One group is clearly established as owning the camp as per server rules.

A challenging group arrives to take their camp.

A petition is made.

A GM shows up, enraged at being called in to fulfill their role. Swearing ensues, players are called children for not being able to 'handle it themselves'.

Completely arbitrary decision is made by the GM without any attempt to learn the relevant facts or apply them to the server's rule-set.

Original Legit group sits back stunned, begins to question their will to continue playing.

[Ronas]

what guild is he in?

[Uberom]

OK, OK, Post is over with. VD stole the camp. Might makes right, apparently.

I have zero respect for VD.

I will not honor any camp held by VD, ever.

And as much as these VD guys keep talking like they know what is going on, these are the same jackasses who presented false information to a GM regarding the issue. When one story was discredited, they made up another one.

"ENC died to efreeti"

Actually ENC looted GEBS, explain?

"Uhh, uhh.....ENC came after everything spawned"

Actually ENC and MAG killed the PH, explain?

"Uhh, uhh.... (lies) (lies) (lies)"

Vesica Dei, entirely unprofessional, entirely wrong, zero respect.

Period.

Everyone get off my thread. Situation is over.

[Uberom]

You have very* clearly never had any sort of camp dispute on this server involving a GM. I have seen many in recent weeks, and in general they play out like this:

One group is clearly established as owning the camp as per server rules.

A challenging group arrives to take their camp.

A petition is made.

A GM shows up, enraged at being called in to fulfill their role. Swearing ensues, players are called children for not being able to 'handle it themselves'.

Completely arbitrary decision is made by the GM without any attempt to learn the relevant facts or apply them to the server's rule-set.

Original Legit group sits back stunned, begins to question their will to continue playing.

THIS x 9000.

Fucking well said. I actually considered quitting tonight.

[Ronas]

Gimme the GEBs before you leave

[Uberom]

Gimme the GEBs before you leave

1. Fuck you.
2. The chanter rolled a 100, I rolled a 80.

[tnyadno]

You have very* clearly never had any sort of camp dispute on this server involving a GM. I have seen many in recent weeks, and in general they play out like this:

One group is clearly established as owning the camp as per server rules.

A challenging group arrives to take their camp.

A petition is made.

A GM shows up, enraged at being called in to fulfill their role. Swearing ensues, players are called children for not being able to 'handle it themselves'.

Completely arbitrary decision is made by the GM without any attempt to learn the relevant facts or apply them to the server's rule-set.

Original Legit group sits back stunned, begins to question their will to continue playing.

Ya, I've seen people get banned when they have done nothing and the people that are blatantly disobeying go Scott free.

The GM"s need to just code and stop trying to be GM's, they are exactly like a 22 year old cop just out of the "academy". All that power and no idea how to use it.

They call Everquest their playground but in reality if we don't play it, they have nothing. They will eventually kill the server all by themselves, Uthgaard being probably the worst.

[Kavanah]

Rawwrrr I hate everyone.

Jk =)

[Acillatem]

"ENC died to efreeti"

Actually ENC looted GEBS, explain?


lol my bad for *assuming* the ENC died to the Efreeti. The point was the ENC fuking died. Even better if he didn't die to the Efreeti cuz it only means the window of opportunity for the ENC to get back to spawn is WAY less than 22 mins....esp if u take into account your bio break....med back up so u can pacify yer way back up.... etc...suddenly it's lookin a little more possible that PH respawned huh?

"Uhh, uhh.....ENC came after everything spawned"

Actually ENC and MAG killed the PH, explain?

Our ENC already had a pet - so we decided to pull the roamer first (ya know so we wouldn't have an add mid-fight). While we fought the roamer - the ENC looted corpse and pulled the PHer.

[Nakara]

you type like a justin bieber fan

[Gawain]

Get the fuck off my thread.

Thanks.

No Thanks; but you can always petition me, lose (again) and create a R&F about how I posted on your R&F.

[YendorLootmonkey]

THIS x 9000.

Fucking well said. I actually considered quitting tonight.

You still haven't explained how someone not 2-boxing decides to bio break at the same time as the other person in a duo.

[Nakara]

because when you happen to be in the same group you happen to have breaks in play at the same time as the other members of your group

logic is hard

[Gawain]

Wouldnt logic be if you were in a 2 person group in a sought after spawn be to take seperate breaks ?

[Nakara]

who says you have that option? maybe you only have 1 window of downtime every spawn cycle.

[Odeseus]

The perpetrators have already conceded that while they acted within the letter of the rules, they did not act in the spirit of them. For whatever reason, they decided to not play particularly nice. They have not shied away from this fact. Why is there still an argument? You have made your point that you feel you were treated unfairly. Point taken. What else do you want? Do you want the people who "stole" your camp to be banned? That they should pay you some sort of damages? State the purpose of continuing to rage.

Also, (and maybe I'm the crazy one here) but how is a camp dispute worth such flaming and hatred? I've been trained, had camps taken from me because I was slightly behind on spawns and told that because I am a mage and can solo a camp, that I shouldn't be "greedy" and let a group take some of my mobs. When it happens, I get mad but take a deep breath, realize it is a game and go do something else. If I'm really pissed, I log off. No game is worth bursting a blood vessel over.

TL;DR. You have a right to be mad, everyone gets it. But why are you still enraged?

[Odeseus]

Oh, and this goes for everyone. Why are you still bitching at each other? Seriously.

[Nakara]

i think you clicked on the wrong forum pal

[Odeseus]

*shrugs* if you enjoy being mad and flaming, then that is reason enough for me. I just don't understand it personally.

[t0lkien]

MAG (OP) + ENC pacify Efreeti Room. They proceed to kill Efreeti. Sometime in between Efreeti kill and PH respawning, the ENC dies.

We (VD) show up after ENC died. I Eye of Zomm into the Efreeti room. ALL mobs are spawned (including the Efreeti PHer) At this point the MAG is /oocing some shit about how efreeti is his. So I respond in /ooc to pull the room (or the PHer). Anyone that was in Sol B might remember me saying in /ooc something along the lines of *fine you were here first, pull the room*.

Obviously he can't without the ENC there. So I look up on the P99 forums for Camps Defined. It clearly states that a player cannot claim a camp if he cannot clear it without further help. Since the ENC was dead and not in camp - he needed further help therefore cannot claim the camp.

So ya - we pacified the room and proceeded to kill.

ENC shows back up after room is pacified - we both continue to sit there as they /petitioned.

The only reasons we stayed to claim the spawn is:

1)The room was fully re-spawned therefore you couldn't claim the camp was still broken and it required an ENC to break the spawn again.

2)The ENC of said duo was dead and not present.

3)The MAG, when given the opportunity to pull the PHer, didn't.

Sorry but some singular MAG sitting up there, not killing anything even after I offer the opportunity in /ooc to do so - does not constitute someone *camping* the efreeti. It constitutes someone *waiting for someone else to camp efreeti*.

That just makes you an asshole.

[Uberom]

Dude,

these guys are just bad. No respect for camps at all. They have resorted to scrutinizing how we pull and how we take fucking piss breaks for christ sake, lol.

The thing that still bothers me is that I called Efreeti was camped, I announced that we had just got GEBS, so why the fuck did a group spend all that time fighting their way up to a camp that was taken? You know why? Because they had intentions on stealing it before they even got there....

Like I said, I can't wait to come up on a VD group. I'm going to do EVERYTHING in my power to KS, train etc because guess what? GM's wont do anything about it. They will make me /ran 100 to stop ....lol. Hell, I might even get a free camp!!!! MUAHHAHA

I seriously, in one night, changed my entire outlook on P99. I no longer give a flying fuck about the population and community. My sole goal in this game is to please myself and entertain myself. If that means I have to do that at the expense of someone else, as is what happened to me tonight, then fuck it .... I'll do it. Rules don't mean shit because they aren't even fucking applied or interpreted correctly. You know how I know when someone is camping something? I /ooc CC, and if they don't answer I go look. If I go and someone is there, I /tell them and ask, "Are you camping this". If they reply, then I fucking ask to be put on the list and wait my fucking turn......when the fuck did this method go out of style? Apparently when Euro-trash started playing on our server...

I don't go to camps and say "You have 5 seconds to show me your worthy of this camp or my group is going to take it" ..... This is not the EQ community I remember....IF this was the case, you could go to ANY camp in the game and pull something, then make the argument that they werent exhibiting the necessary "REQUIREMENTS", as VD thinks of it, for claiming the camp.

So, I plan to try this out and see how it works....to those I injure in the process, go fuck yourself, I don't care :D

Welcome home, Project1999.

[Lazortag]

Dude,

these guys are just bad. No respect for camps at all. They have resorted to scrutinizing how we pull and how we take fucking piss breaks for christ sake, lol.

The thing that still bothers me is that I called Efreeti was camped, I announced that we had just got GEBS, so why the fuck did a group spend all that time fighting their way up to a camp that was taken? You know why? Because they had intentions on stealing it before they even got there....

Like I said, I can't wait to come up on a VD group. I'm going to do EVERYTHING in my power to KS, train etc because guess what? GM's wont do anything about it. They will make me /ran 100 to stop ....lol. Hell, I might even get a free camp!!!! MUAHHAHA

I seriously, in one night, changed my entire outlook on P99. I no longer give a flying fuck about the population and community. My sole goal in this game is to please myself and entertain myself. If that means I have to do that at the expense of someone else, as is what happened to me tonight, then fuck it .... I'll do it. Rules don't mean shit because they aren't even fucking applied or interpreted correctly. You know how I know when someone is camping something? I /ooc CC, and if they don't answer I go look. If I go and someone is there, I /tell them and ask, "Are you camping this". If they reply, then I fucking ask to be put on the list and wait my fucking turn......when the fuck did this method go out of style? Apparently when Euro-trash started playing on our server...

I don't go to camps and say "You have 5 seconds to show me your worthy of this camp or my group is going to take it" ..... This is not the EQ community I remember....IF this was the case, you could go to ANY camp in the game and pull something, then make the argument that they werent exhibiting the necessary "REQUIREMENTS", as VD thinks of it, for claiming the camp.

So, I plan to try this out and see how it works....to those I injure in the process, go fuck yourself, I don't care :D

Welcome home, Project1999.

So why'd you both take a shit at the same time? Just curious. Doesn't seem very strategic.

[Lazortag]

Also, there are perfectly legitimate channels through which you can dispute things like this. Why didn't you go to petitions/exploits for a full review of the situation? If a cop gives you a speeding ticket when you don't deserve it, do you go to court, or do you break the law out of spite?

[thefloydian]

That just makes you an asshole.

:D

[Azazel]

Jesus, OP is such a whiny bitch. Yes, VD should have backed off when the situation was explained to them but hey, they showed up at a point when you couldnt hold the camp so meh. Big deal.


I seriously, in one night, changed my entire outlook on P99. I no longer give a flying fuck about the population and community.

Grow up, go outside, p1999 doesnt revolve around you.

[Madigan]

I seriously, in one night, changed my entire outlook on P99. I no longer give a flying fuck about the population and community.
1. May I offer you a tissue?
2. May I show you the door?

[M.Bison]

Who the fuck is VD?

[t0lkien]

No offense to the devs, but if this stuff isn't adequately policed it's going to be bad for everyone. If might makes right on P99 in reality (not in rhetoric), it's going to become a pretty unpleasant place to be for many of us.

The OP is totally right to complain about this. Calling him a whinging bitch just means it hasn't happened to you yet. Those that cry whinger are the one's who bitch the loudest and longest when the same stuff happens to them, in my experience.

All of this goes away when people just behave decently. How hard is it to respect a camp, send tells, and get in line? As one of my friends says: Do whatever you want, just don't fuck things up for the rest of us.

[nalkin]

If might makes right on P99 in reality (not in rhetoric), it's going to become a pretty unpleasant place to be for many of us.

"Might does not make right! Right makes right!" - BEST BOOK EVER

Anyway. I didn't really read this whole thing, but if VD took the camp after enchanter died and mage was the only one up there, is the camp fair to claim? Is it a D-bag move? Your answer to these questions is the same.

[Nakara]

no it's not the same answer because the rules only address trying to camp multiple camps at once, not what happens if you partially wipe at '1' camp

not that the rules mean shit but yea

[Acillatem]

The thing that still bothers me is that I called Efreeti was camped, I announced that we had just got GEBS, so why the fuck did a group spend all that time fighting their way up to a camp that was taken?

Becuz people claim Efreeti all the time from the zoneline hoping they can get there uncontested. Normally I wouldn't bother going to verify but:

[Thu Dec 02 14:02:28 2010] Roofie says out of character, 'Well Ard you did train a shit load of Dogs to the zone line about 10 mins ago.'

That gave me "reasonable doubt" that you weren't even there - hence we decided to press on.

If I go and someone is there, I /tell them and ask, "Are you camping this".

We got up to the top of the ramp and saw you there. YOU didn't even give us the CHANCE to talk to you before you started goin off in /ooc. We got to the top and aggro'd a mob and before the fight was over - /ooc ranting.

At that point - (oh and after I saw yer guildtag) I responded in /ooc (since that was your choice channel of communication not /tells). My /ooc response was pretty damn close to "you were here first - we'll give you 5 minutes to pull". If you wanna be an asshole - I can do the same. I didn't just roll up there with a zerg attitude - but you sure pushed me in that direction right from the get-go.

Your response?

"I'm /petitioning a GM".

You insta-flame in /ooc and then threaten a petition? And you wanna bitch at me about respecting your camp?

Why should I? If yer gunna take the ass-hole mentality and rant in /ooc and threaten a /petition before we even do anything other than GET to the top ... well game on then dude.

Once you said that - I said "fuk the 5 minutes". Cast Eye of Zomm and we all know the rest.


1)You claim yer at the efreeti, but in the same breath others are calling you out in zone for trains. That tells me you might not be at efreeti - at the very least it's worth investigating IMO.
2)You want to claim how if you showed up at someone's camp you would be courteous and /tells etc - however YOU initiated conversation with us by ranting in /ooc and telling us you petitioned a GM before we even did anything. WTF dude?

Sorry man - maybe next time take your own advice and send a fukin /tell. Politely.

[Nakara]

Becuz

really? i mean c'mon

[saucer]

From a bystander who is not associated with either party and who has read this thread in its entirety:
Fuck VD.

At the least it was an incredibly douche-baggish move which is against what the server stands for, and at the most it wasn't even in accordance with the rule because the mob in question hadn't even repopped since the original group had killed it.

You do not have the authority to make a determination on what class makeup and number has the ability to clear a camp if the mobs are down, you have to wait for the fucking mob to actually spawn again and then wait for the person/group to either fail or not attempt to kill the mob.

To simplify it: if a singular mob/ph in question is 1) not spawned and 2) another pc is sitting there, clearly in the camp, then the camp is not up for grabs in the slightest and you must wait for 1) the mob to spawn and, either, A) the PC(s) to fail; or B) the PC(s) to not attempt to kill the mob.

[Humerox]

Who the fuck is VD?

Srsly?

Vesica Dei...

[Hasbinbad]

Srsly?

Vesica Dei...
Subtle sarcasm is subtle.

[Messianic]

Most intelligent part of this log..

No, i'd say the cookies part was...I would totally be like OMG WHO TOOK MY COOKIES in a Mr. T voice if someone took my cookies

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

I have run into people 'duoing' the efreeti camp. Personally, I don't care if you were first, if the mob is up over a certain time frame, you run the risk of losing said camp.

I tire of people claiming a camp solo or duo, they or one of them dies, and they try locking down this camp with the mobs up, while they try however many times it takes to win.

6 people isn't a zerg, it's a group. And duoing efreeti isn't 'skillz'. I'll never understand people who brag about doing something with less people then is efficient. I don't care if you do hate with 5 people. The objective isn't to take all friggin day, the plane is there for loots. Fuq spending 12 hours with 5 people, give me the 40 people and we get in and out fast. Screw doing fire giants with 2 people and taking hours, give me a couple of groups and knock it out fast.

I would also like to point out, that if the enchanter died, and only the mage was there when the VD group came up, it was the VD group that killed the mobs on the way to efreeti. Therefore making the return of said enchanter faster, with no mobs being up. So the illusion of "I got back fast" means nothing to me here.

I remember running into a cleric/enc combo duoing efreeti, only they couldn't do it within 30 minutes to an hour. We moved up with maybe 10-12 people from fire giants, which could be classified as overkill for the camp, but the goal was to go up, kill efreeti, and get back to fire giants before respawns of the mobs in between. So we took overkill, ran up, and allowed them the chance to make an attempt. I didn't really feel I had to, given that the mob had been up for over an half hour, but ok, go for it. They tried, failed, and died. I pulled efreeti, we dragged their corpses and ressed them. Instead of thanks for saving them potentially a good chunk of time cr'ing, I am cursed out for stealing a camp. Needless to say, we didn't stay, we went back to fire giants as intended. All we did was give them a broken camp, and a quick cr. Greed and paranoia is what I call it in this game. People get selfish and paranoid about MY CAMP, and this is the result.

I could give a rat's ass about people who like to farm camps like this. I would consider being in favor of a rule that defers the camp to a full group over any, to encourage social play in a mmorpg. I can understand your frustration, but you are angry because you are potentially losing loot, not because of their actions. They didn't roll up and steal the named spawn with you sitting there. It's your camp? Pull the mob and kill it. Keep the spawns down.

Sermon over.

[Exxon]

Oh, and this goes for everyone. Why are you still bitching at each other? Seriously.
Hi there, I think you are in the wrong sub-forum my friend.

[Nakara]

Personally, I don't care if you were first, if the mob is up over a certain time frame, you run the risk of losing said camp.


it was already stated that this isn't what happened. thanks for typing a bunch of useless shit no one will read though.

[Lazortag]

I would also like to point out, that if the enchanter died, and only the mage was there when the VD group came up, it was the VD group that killed the mobs on the way to efreeti. Therefore making the return of said enchanter faster, with no mobs being up. So the illusion of "I got back fast" means nothing to me here.

I remember running into a cleric/enc combo duoing efreeti, only they couldn't do it within 30 minutes to an hour. We moved up with maybe 10-12 people from fire giants, which could be classified as overkill for the camp, but the goal was to go up, kill efreeti, and get back to fire giants before respawns of the mobs in between. So we took overkill, ran up, and allowed them the chance to make an attempt. I didn't really feel I had to, given that the mob had been up for over an half hour, but ok, go for it. They tried, failed, and died. I pulled efreeti, we dragged their corpses and ressed them. Instead of thanks for saving them potentially a good chunk of time cr'ing, I am cursed out for stealing a camp. Needless to say, we didn't stay, we went back to fire giants as intended. All we did was give them a broken camp, and a quick cr. Greed and paranoia is what I call it in this game. People get selfish and paranoid about MY CAMP, and this is the result.


The first part is a really good point actually. I want to know if there's a response to that because I can't imagine the Enchanter getting back on his own without that kind of help (I mean, sure you can just lull whatever you see, but it usually takes me several attempts because something will roam and aggro you, so it surely can't be done quickly, as you suggested). Honestly in such a clusterfuck of a situation I totally understand why the GM made them roll on it. Unless they have really compelling evidence in either direction, they can't just hand someone the camp.

[Seaweedpimp]

Get the fuck off my thread.

Thanks.

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j438/Sskape1/untitled.jpg

[Odeseus]

Hi there, I think you are in the wrong sub-forum my friend.

Probably. I'm pretty new to the server and the forums. Still figuring out the ground rules sort to speak

[citizen1080]

pff i read this post like 4 times and just now noticed this.

While I disagree with your statement sir, I'll defend to the death your right to post it.

Too lazy to read this whole thread so someone may have beat me to it...but if not, well done with the Futurama reference.

[Bubbles]

Boy, 5th generation IB seems

a. ) angry

and

b. ) super interested in dungeon camps.

------------

That said, you may want to scan back among old posts and take a quick peek at what your predacessors (Re: the IB that matter) would handle most, if not all, similar situations on both the server and these boards:

go ahead, i'll pause and give you a minute..

Having trouble? That's cuz.. they didn't bother with the forums, the didn't bother in the game, and they were generally to busy doing important things to even keep up on server drama.

They sure as fuck were not STARTNG rants n flames topics, especially one surrounded by the two basic premises of:

1. ) crap i died

and

2. ) let's go ahead and word it like i'm 2boxing

Because, I mean... jeez, that's really going to endear you to the general public. And go ahead and find a guild with a solid rep so you'll have to create ghost accounts to get some posts in there actually on your side.

And don't say you don't care what the general public thinks.. Because *you posted in rants and flames for attention*.

p.s. i don't keep up as much as i used to... If you're in TMO or Fish Bait or some other effing guild and not IB, then i apologize for giving you more credit than you deserve in the first place.

[Humwawa]

Bubbles posts always warm my heart.

Back to retirement!

[Trystych]

p.s. i don't keep up as much as i used to... If you're in TMO or Fish Bait or some other effing guild and not IB..

Ardipithecus and Incognito are the mage/enchanter, both of which were applicants to IB for approximately 2-3 weeks. Neither of which are at present or at the time this incident took place for different reasons that I won't be discussing publicly.

[Bruuce]

yeah VD people are faggots it seems

[Messianic]

tag: "u poopin bro?"

LOL

[Bubbles]

Neither of which are at present or at the time this incident took place for different reasons that I won't be discussing publicly.

Glad to hear. And after this thread i'd imagine there'd be little need to discuss it publicly, were you even inclined. ;)

[Uberom]

From a bystander who is not associated with either party and who has read this thread in its entirety:
Fuck VD.

At the least it was an incredibly douche-baggish move which is against what the server stands for, and at the most it wasn't even in accordance with the rule because the mob in question hadn't even repopped since the original group had killed it.

You do not have the authority to make a determination on what class makeup and number has the ability to clear a camp if the mobs are down, you have to wait for the fucking mob to actually spawn again and then wait for the person/group to either fail or not attempt to kill the mob.

To simplify it: if a singular mob/ph in question is 1) not spawned and 2) another pc is sitting there, clearly in the camp, then the camp is not up for grabs in the slightest and you must wait for 1) the mob to spawn and, either, A) the PC(s) to fail; or B) the PC(s) to not attempt to kill the mob.

Damn. This guy should be a fucking GM. I couldn't have put it any better. These are the rules. This was trespassed against. Every time a VD member speaks, they are fucking lying. Me and my ENC friend were the only one who had every single spawn on timer, the only one we sort of fucked up was the roamer, because we charm lots of pets and shit. This one little mistake obviously cost the ENC his life, but no big deal, he was on his way back up...3 minutes tops.... these VD guys pretend like they came up there all nonchalant and shit, but that is entirely untrue. Roofie said as soon as they got up the ramp something along the lines of, "You can't hold the camp by yourself, so GTFO".

I can't fucking stand how these kids are trying to save face. It was our camp, they stole it. End of story. They should be fucking suspended at the least.

[Uberom]

I have run into people 'duoing' the efreeti camp. Personally, I don't care if you were first, if the mob is up over a certain time frame, you run the risk of losing said camp.

I tire of people claiming a camp solo or duo, they or one of them dies, and they try locking down this camp with the mobs up, while they try however many times it takes to win.

6 people isn't a zerg, it's a group. And duoing efreeti isn't 'skillz'. I'll never understand people who brag about doing something with less people then is efficient. I don't care if you do hate with 5 people. The objective isn't to take all friggin day, the plane is there for loots. Fuq spending 12 hours with 5 people, give me the 40 people and we get in and out fast. Screw doing fire giants with 2 people and taking hours, give me a couple of groups and knock it out fast.

I would also like to point out, that if the enchanter died, and only the mage was there when the VD group came up, it was the VD group that killed the mobs on the way to efreeti. Therefore making the return of said enchanter faster, with no mobs being up. So the illusion of "I got back fast" means nothing to me here.

I remember running into a cleric/enc combo duoing efreeti, only they couldn't do it within 30 minutes to an hour. We moved up with maybe 10-12 people from fire giants, which could be classified as overkill for the camp, but the goal was to go up, kill efreeti, and get back to fire giants before respawns of the mobs in between. So we took overkill, ran up, and allowed them the chance to make an attempt. I didn't really feel I had to, given that the mob had been up for over an half hour, but ok, go for it. They tried, failed, and died. I pulled efreeti, we dragged their corpses and ressed them. Instead of thanks for saving them potentially a good chunk of time cr'ing, I am cursed out for stealing a camp. Needless to say, we didn't stay, we went back to fire giants as intended. All we did was give them a broken camp, and a quick cr. Greed and paranoia is what I call it in this game. People get selfish and paranoid about MY CAMP, and this is the result.

I could give a rat's ass about people who like to farm camps like this. I would consider being in favor of a rule that defers the camp to a full group over any, to encourage social play in a mmorpg. I can understand your frustration, but you are angry because you are potentially losing loot, not because of their actions. They didn't roll up and steal the named spawn with you sitting there. It's your camp? Pull the mob and kill it. Keep the spawns down.

Sermon over.

LOL. This guy is a complete dumbass, considering we lull everything on the way up and don't clear it anyhow. Obviously you have no fucking clue how to duo the efreeti, if you have ever even seen the fucking thing.

Also, read the fucking posts, I've already said that the efreeti and all the mobs pertinent to the spawn were down. The only thing up was the imps outside which we use as pets and shit. VD decided that since they killed the misc mobs surrounding the camp, they now own the camp.

Being VD, and being completely horrible at life, me and my ENC still pulled the PH every spawn while VD was stuck with roamers and shit. Fucking skills, regardless of what this stupid cunt bag here says. If you want to contest, bring your punk fuckin ass up to efreeti and we will see who gets the mob...

Punk fucking bitches dont know shit.....lol.... love it.

Sermon over.

[tnyadno]

Ardipithecus and Incognito are the mage/enchanter, both of which were applicants to IB for approximately 2-3 weeks. Neither of which are at present or at the time this incident took place for different reasons that I won't be discussing publicly.

I wasn't going to publicly humiliated you Trystych to the degree you deserve, but I won't hold back. I'll say the reasons publicly since you are clearly ashamed.

Trystych here has what we call an Everquest ego; spilling out needless rants and orders on trivial situations that nobody wants/needs to here; for the sake of hearing his own voice. Speaking of your voice, did you know about half your guild have private binds that make fun of your every command and mono toned, recorded sounding voice? Everyone is tired of hearing your constant bitching, even after we destroy an encounter.

I blatantly chose not to make IB recruitment once I became educated on exactly how big of tools a few of the officers were. (Trystych topping the chart).

Why is Trystych a tool? Get comfortable I'll try to make this short. It won't be but ill try.

1.) Watching guildies die at a camp for the sake of stealing it. I can understand letting me die since, I say things that are true, and sometimes abrasive which apparently hurt your feelings and officer pride. However, letting Mellyn die, one of IB's older members just added to the situation. She thought you guys were friends, man hearing her pissed at you in vent felt great. Sorry Mellyn for bringing you into this, but its worth it.

2.) Remember that time you and Eashan were discussing server rules regarding mob tagging in Plane of Hate? I stepped forward and QUOTED the server rules and I got a giant " MOOT POINT ". Rofl, what the fuck? Next time server rules are over ruled by The Almighty Over Lord Trystych's Nerd Command; SOMEBODY PLEASE GOD LET ME KNOW!?!!? Just so you know, if you really wanna say "moot point" it's best said when someone says something not pertaining to the situation at hand.

3.) Some of my favorite situations are you and Swarves ( Spelling? ) just contradicting each other on every fucking mob. Man that shit got so annoying hearing one of you say to tag mobs as they come by or when something is low on health. Than the other one getting ragingly pissed because that's not what they wanted for the very next situation that would occur 50 seconds later. Jesus Christ I had half the officers on mute in like one week.

4.) While this may not seem THAT bad, when you have to listen to it constantly without a break, every raid without fail it just becomes asinine and ridiculous. I could go on and on about situations similar that continued for my entire 3 week APP. However I'll just end with nobody ever yelled at me about my actions in raids; nor my ability to follow orders, because they were flawless. The only reason I didn't make it into the guild is because I didn't suck your dick since your an officer in one of the top guilds on an Everquest Emulator Server. In fact I blatantly taunted you at every chance, I bet you cried so hard in my APP forum, and begged people to right negative reviews. I talked to a select view individuals in IB and I still constantly talk to them even now, so anyone who wrote a negative review did so with no relations.

I had been warned about IB's leadership before apping, I just didn't believe it would or could be that bad. Like I said before, you are like a 22 year old cop straight out of school. All that authority and nobody cares what you say.

Don't think by getting rid of me you accomplished anything, half your guild thinks you are as big of a tool as i do. You guy's complain about a high turn over rate guild member wise, I wonder? They are tired of your bitching/contradiction/whining/controlling nature.

After all that's said, I exempt Xzerion from any negative comment, his only fault is he rarely plays to make any accurate judgments.

By the way my name is Incognito and it's ironically symbolic. See if you can figure it out.

Say whatever you want, it won't be true I'm sure. Attempt to flame it all you want, I'd rather go read about Brangelina and watch a marathon of E TV than hear anything you or anyone defending your bullshit has to say.

Maybe more people will stop biting their tongue in vent for the sake of getting loot and tell you to shut the fuck up like I did. Anything you have to say is a, MOOT POINT. Thanks for giving the guild and I a great laugh, I guess some parts of the app process weren't so bad.

[Uberom]

I wasn't going to publicly humiliated you Trystych to the degree you deserve, but I won't hold back. I'll say the reasons publicly since you are clearly ashamed.

Trystych here has what we call an Everquest ego; spilling out needless rants and orders on trivial situations that nobody wants/needs to here; for the sake of hearing his own voice. Speaking of your voice, did you know about half your guild have private binds that make fun of your every command and mono toned, recorded sounding voice? Everyone is tired of hearing your constant bitching, even after we destroy an encounter.

I blatantly chose not to make IB recruitment once I became educated on exactly how big of tools a few of the officers were. (Trystych topping the chart).

Why is Trystych a tool? Get comfortable I'll try to make this short. It won't be but ill try.

1.) Watching guildies die at a camp for the sake of stealing it. I can understand letting me die since, I say things that are true, and sometimes abrasive which apparently hurt your feelings and officer pride. However, letting Mellyn die, one of IB's older members just added to the situation. She thought you guys were friends, man hearing her pissed at you in vent felt great. Sorry Mellyn for bringing you into this, but its worth it.

2.) Remember that time you and Eashan were discussing server rules regarding mob tagging in Plane of Hate? I stepped forward and QUOTED the server rules and I got a giant " MOOT POINT ". Rofl, what the fuck? Next time server rules are over ruled by The Almighty Over Lord Trystych's Nerd Command; SOMEBODY PLEASE GOD LET ME KNOW!?!!? Just so you know, if you really wanna say "moot point" it's best said when someone says something not pertaining to the situation at hand.

3.) Some of my favorite situations are you and Swarves ( Spelling? ) just contradicting each other on every fucking mob. Man that shit got so annoying hearing one of you say to tag mobs as they come by or when something is low on health. Than the other one getting ragingly pissed because that's not what they wanted for the very next situation that would occur 50 seconds later. Jesus Christ I had half the officers on mute in like one week.

4.) While this may not seem THAT bad, when you have to listen to it constantly without a break, every raid without fail it just becomes asinine and ridiculous. I could go on and on about situations similar that continued for my entire 3 week APP. However I'll just end with nobody ever yelled at me about my actions in raids; nor my ability to follow orders, because they were flawless. The only reason I didn't make it into the guild is because I didn't suck your dick since your an officer in one of the top guilds on an Everquest Emulator Server. In fact I blatantly taunted you at every chance, I bet you cried so hard in my APP forum, and begged people to right negative reviews. I talked to a select view individuals in IB and I still constantly talk to them even now, so anyone who wrote a negative review did so with no relations.

I had been warned about IB's leadership before apping, I just didn't believe it would or could be that bad. Like I said before, you are like a 22 year old cop straight out of school. All that authority and nobody cares what you say.

Don't think by getting rid of me you accomplished anything, half your guild thinks you are as big of a tool as i do. You guy's complain about a high turn over rate guild member wise, I wonder? They are tired of your bitching/contradiction/whining/controlling nature.

After all that's said, I exempt Xzerion from any negative comment, his only fault is he rarely plays to make any accurate judgments.

By the way my name is Incognito and it's ironically symbolic. See if you can figure it out.

Say whatever you want, it won't be true I'm sure. Attempt to flame it all you want, I'd rather go read about Brangelina and watch a marathon of E TV than hear anything you or anyone defending your bullshit has to say.

Maybe more people will stop biting their tongue in vent for the sake of getting loot and tell you to shut the fuck up like I did. Anything you have to say is a, MOOT POINT. Thanks for giving the guild and I a great laugh, I guess some parts of the app process weren't so bad.

Holy shit....

I agree to the point that I don't like the guy, but....I feel like this kid might go /wrist himself or something after reading this...but then again...

MOOT POINT!

[Trystych]

Yeah, I watched you die to efreeti plus 3 imps outside of his area all by yourself while we had just got up the ramp out of range to help even if we could. All we could do is sit back and watch you get owned. Then killed the efreeti because another group was coming behind us, and rezzed you, you are welcome. By we here I mean a cleric and enchanter, if you honestly expected us to save you from 4 mobs including the efreeti in an area full spawned of lulled mobs you are crazy.

I was going to type out something about why we denied your application, but I think you have already shown people why it would have happened in this thread. Just know that I was the one who enabled your app to go on as long as it did to try and prove the naysayers wrong, but this didn't happen and majority rule won out and we had to part ways. I still wish you luck on the server and finding a new guild.

[Messianic]

OH SNAP DRAMA

FILM AT 11

[Uberom]

Yeah, I watched you die to efreeti plus 3 imps outside of his area all by yourself while we had just got up the ramp out of range to help even if we could. All we could do is sit back and watch you get owned. Then killed the efreeti because another group was coming behind us, and rezzed you, you are welcome. By we here I mean a cleric and enchanter, if you honestly expected us to save you from 4 mobs including the efreeti in an area full spawned of lulled mobs you are crazy.

I was going to type out something about why we denied your application, but I think you have already shown people why it would have happened in this thread. Just know that I was the one who enabled your app to go on as long as it did to try and prove the naysayers wrong, but this didn't happen and majority rule won out and we had to part ways. I still wish you luck on the server and finding a new guild.

Officer of IB:

Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 6

" All we could do is sit back and watch you get owned."

This is what they say to MT during raids. Lol.

P.S. Mellyn disagreed with your story, entirely.

Stay of the forums Tryst, you get raped here, baddie.

[Kassel]

holy shit, IB KS'd our drama thread =(

[Nakara]

Simply ban all of IB and VD and this server would be a much better place.

[Kavanah]

After we killed Efreeti, we both went bio AFK.
I came back to see ENC dead

I was duoing efreeti spawn, succesfully, when VD group showed up and basically just took the camp

Hours later, me and my ENC friend go to efreeti, and we duo our way up to the camp. Lo and behold, who's corpse is waiting out in front of the imps? My Enchanter friends. =/

Fix'd

=D

[Madigan]

Simply ban Nakara, Uberom, and RocketMoose and this server would be a much better place.

Fixed it for you.

[Nakara]

Fixed it for you.

witty and original

[Madigan]

witty and original
Just like all of these whiny threads. I love it ends up that Uberom is now shunned when at first everyone ran to his defense.

[Uberom]

Just like all of these whiny threads. I love it ends up that Uberom is now shunned when at first everyone ran to his defense.

Yea bro I was seeking global aid.