Royal Rumble

[Spyder73]

Who do you guys think will win the Rumble?


There are many things to consider here. The #1 being that whoever has the championship will be headlining Wrestlemania. The Rock has already publicly stated he will be wrestling at mania, and this is presumably the Undertakers last ride as well. Then again, Lesnar has unbelievable star power and Cena is also a go to guy for big name matches that sell tickets to huge events. If I had to do a power ranking, it would go something like this

1) Triple H returns and wins the title, he has been out so this would add some pop and be a big match for Wrestlemania for whoever he fights
2) The Rock returns and win the title, always a fan favorite
3) Lesner - seems unlikely to me at this point
4) Roman Reigns overcomes all odds and they try to push him as a top star - also seems unlikely unless they realize they need to actually push young guys
5)Undertaker - His match will have enough starpower around it, you basically remove a huge match from Mania by combining Takers annual match and the Championship match
6) Seth Rollins or Daniel Bryant return - again, seems very unlikely that even if they were healthy they would win.
7) Cena - this has been done so many times, would be disappointing
8) Randy Orton - he has been so quiet lately that maybe this is his big return
9) Bray Wyatt - not big enough of a star yet IMO to headline Mania
10) They go off the grid and someone no one could possibly predict wins

Triples H's absence is conspicuous enough for me to believe he will come and win, resulting in a push for the Authority narrative that is on the brink of exhaustion.

[apio]

The only winner is CM Punk who's done with fake wrastlin' and training for a real fight like a man.

[Furniture]

I really think there is absolutely no chance of HHH, The Rock, Undertaker, Rollins, Bryan, Cena, or Orton winning the rumble. I'm 99% sure none of those people will even be in the rumble besides HHH or maybe a surprise undertaker return. EDIT: Orton could make a return at the rumble as well but who really gives a shit about orton anymore?

There will be some kind of shenanigans im sure, but one possibility is HHH costs reigns the title, then Ambrose, Owens, Sheamus, or Wyatt wins the rumble. Winner faces reigns at the feb. ppv, reigns gets screwed again (maybe mcmahon or HHH), sets up triple threat Reigns vs RR winner vs Lesnar at WM with of course Reigns finally getting his title back.

I'm pretty sure Lesnar is going to be in the WM main event no matter what, due to all the talk heyman did last week about it. Why build up Lesnar at WM main event that early when they are trying to break attendance record and then just scrap it?

Obviously anything can happen, and I'd rather be surprised with the outcome then it happen this way. Either way it should be a good rumble.

EDIT: On second thought since WM is very early in April this year, isnt there 2 ppvs in between RR and WM? If so then really anything can happen since they have enough time to change plans with 2 ppvs.

[Furniture]

The only winner is CM Punk who's done with fake wrastlin' and training for a real fight like a man.

cant wait to see him get his ass beat down, hes a fucking moron

Edit: And AJ Lee is a whore

[Spyder73]

I really think there is absolutely no chance of HHH, The Rock, Undertaker, Rollins, Bryan, Cena, or Orton winning the rumble. I'm 99% sure none of those people will even be in the rumble besides HHH or maybe a surprise undertaker return. EDIT: Orton could make a return at the rumble as well but who really gives a shit about orton anymore?

The Rock will be at Wrestlemania 100% I live in the Dallas area and they are advertising him as basically the main attraction at this point. Undertaker is a given for Wrestlemania and there is absolutely no indication he will no be there and the Rumble is a good way to bring him into the fold. Although most likely he will battle the Wyatts with Kane IMO.

Rollins - agree he wont be in it, Bryan VERY likely could be, and Cena/Orton, who knows

There will be some kind of shenanigans im sure, but one possibility is HHH costs reigns the title, then Ambrose, Owens, Sheamus, or Wyatt wins the rumble. Winner faces reigns at the feb. ppv, reigns gets screwed again (maybe mcmahon or HHH), sets up triple threat Reigns vs RR winner vs Lesnar at WM with of course Reigns finally getting his title back.


This is a 100% guarantee, it always is. Someone will get ripped off as per usual.

When ESPN is running segments on WWE (as they always do when it gets close to WM), guess what - they don't give a sh!t about Owens, Ambros, Sheamus, or Wyatt. They DO care about the Rock, Taker, Cena, Lesnar, HHH, and to a lesser degree Orton. You HAVE to have a HUGE name as champion going into Rumble for mainstream media to take notice, and Lesnar vs Rock or HHH vs Lesnar, or any combination of the big names is the only thing that makes sense.

Vince doesnt care about who deserves what, he cares about making a WM that will grab peoples attention from outside wrestling. There's like 5 guys that qualify for that role

I'm pretty sure Lesnar is going to be in the WM main event no matter what, due to all the talk heyman did last week about it. Why build up Lesnar at WM main event that early when they are trying to break attendance record and then just scrap it?

The perfect narrative for Lesnar is to go crazy and start attacking people randomly and be unpredictable when you screw him somehow. This is why I think Lesnar will be more like a mercenary who is pissed off at the world because he is cheated out of a title match at WM. He doesn't make a good champion, but he is the perfect wild-card type character. But then again his star power is undeniable and he WILL be at the show

EDIT: On second thought since WM is very early in April this year, isnt there 2 ppvs in between RR and WM? If so then really anything can happen since they have enough time to change plans with 2 ppvs.

After Rumble, Elimination chamber is the only other PPV traditionally. I think they are calling it something else this year though. Payback maybe? Either way it doesn't matter.

[Spyder73]

The only winner is CM Punk who's done with fake wrastlin' and training for a real fight like a man.

Apio cucking up the P99 boards again. Do you even play here or are you focused on your P99/TAK rip off server still?

[Thulack]

cant wait to see him get his ass beat down, hes a fucking moron

Edit: And AJ Lee is a whore

Sounds like someone has a little too much stock in their Men's Soap Opera.

[barrettdc1]

I have a cousin that wrestles in whatever league it is that wrestles at VFWs and shit. Look up Flex Armstrong. Dudes a beast.

[Furniture]

I am personally hoping to see AJ Styles make his debut at RR although from what i've read it looks more likely to happen on RAW the following day. Also finn balor could make a surprise debut to the main roster which would be nice, to set up the inevitable balor club stable but its more likely he wont and the stable will be on nxt.

[Thulack]

I have a cousin that wrestles in whatever league it is that wrestles at VFWs and shit. Look up Flex Armstrong. Dudes a beast.

When i was 13 i went to a ECW event at a local VFW by myself(my aunt dropped me off). Ended up being a riot during one of the matches and everyone was just throwing stuff into the ring from the crowd and cops from 6 stations had to respond. When my aunt came to pick me up she saw all the cops and everything and i was never allowed to go to another ECW event again :(

[AzzarTheGod]

After Stone Cold's storylines, Vince's Corporation storylines, Mankind's storylines, The Brood/Gangrel/Edge's storylines, and the Ministry of Darkness storylines wrapped up my care cup emptied out pretty quick.

The Attitude Era had actual real wrestling, real fights, real injuries. Scott Hall got his teeth punched out one match. The company is so PG and safe in what moves it allows and what wrestlers can do I can't get into it.

Take HHH, Rock, Taker and a few other guys off this card and its junk.

[Pokesan]

im rooting for hornswaggle

[Furniture]

After Stone Cold's storylines, Vince's Corporation storylines, Mankind's storylines, The Brood/Gangrel/Edge's storylines, and the Ministry of Darkness storylines wrapped up my care cup emptied out pretty quick.

The Attitude Era had actual real wrestling, real fights, real injuries. Scott Hall got his teeth punched out one match. The company is so PG and safe in what moves it allows and what wrestlers can do I can't get into it.

Take HHH, Rock, Taker and a few other guys off this card and its junk.

Ive watched from 1994-2002, stopped watching, and just started again about 8 months ago. It really isnt that bad nowadays, the PPVS are usually good (and only 10 bucks a month to see it + tons of old stuff on the wwe network). NXT is really entertaining too. RAW and Smackdown are usually really bad though but sometimes they get some stuff right.

There is still a lot of blood and violence. Wrestlers are getting injured left and right due to the physicality in the matches, but it does take some time getting used to no chair shots to the head. Other then that i can count lots of times recently wrestlers are busted open and pouring blood, even as recent as last week.

Check out this pic of cena after getting his nose really fucked up during a match on raw a few months ago:
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/zzUZBhLA-0Q/maxresdefault.jpg

Check out this spot from the last ppv:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-x-2C8wt1U

And if you are a fan of the attitude era style intense matches, check out Brock Lesnar vs Undertaker Hell in a Cell match from the ppv 3 months ago, was very intense, bloody, and violent:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3b1h8q

[Oleris]

aj styles

[SamwiseRed]

OP you said you were going to prison this year. You posting from the pen?

[AzzarTheGod]

Ive watched from 1994-2002, stopped watching, and just started again about 8 months ago. It really isnt that bad nowadays, the PPVS are usually good (and only 10 bucks a month to see it + tons of old stuff on the wwe network). NXT is really entertaining too. RAW and Smackdown are usually really bad though but sometimes they get some stuff right.

There is still a lot of blood and violence. Wrestlers are getting injured left and right due to the physicality in the matches, but it does take some time getting used to no chair shots to the head. Other then that i can count lots of times recently wrestlers are busted open and pouring blood, even as recent as last week.

Check out this pic of cena after getting his nose really fucked up during a match on raw a few months ago:
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/zzUZBhLA-0Q/maxresdefault.jpg

Check out this spot from the last ppv:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-x-2C8wt1U

And if you are a fan of the attitude era style intense matches, check out Brock Lesnar vs Undertaker Hell in a Cell match from the ppv 3 months ago, was very intense, bloody, and violent:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3b1h8q

Thanks, definitely going to check that Lesnar n Taker match.

Admittedly I haven't seen much PPV at all since Attitude and was basing my opinion off of RAW 2005-2012. I remember watching a few RAWs and being like "this is pretty soulless, RAW used to be electrifying".

Those "can't miss" RAW days during the Monday night wars spoiled a lot of people. Even Vince was saying they went too far.

Part of the yearning for Attitude is definitely being young again and nostalgic, but it was a damn hell of a time for pro wrestling. Vince Russo delivered again and again.

I miss J.R. and King together. There was strong talk of JR doing some MMA commentating, would have been cool to have him cross over in his prime from the Attitude era to the UFC.

[AzzarTheGod]

That Hell in a Cell touched on some Attitude Era there for sure.

The Wyatt's have gotten a lot darker and weirder it seems since I saw them years ago. I remember when creative didn't know what to do with them. Def an Attitude vibe now, that ending was really harsh.

Its tough not to hear JR calling the shots on a match like that. His announcing was half of Attitude for me.

[Furniture]

Make no mistake, they still have absolutely no idea what to do with the wyatts. The storyline went to shit two RAWS in after that match and immediately became forgetable. The wwe's biggest flaw since ive started watching again is the storylines, which is why RAW and Smackdown mostly have been unwatchable and i ignored the shows for a long time.

A lot of wrestlers including Mick Foley and Steve Austin have been very vocal about their dislike for the storylines too which I think they are now starting to pay attention to. The fans at last years Royal Rumble almost had a riot due to the booking of the finish and since then they have been putting some effort into the PPVs, like you see in that match.

Vince Mcmahon came back after the last PPV and his involvement as a heel with his antics against Roman Reigns have been hilarious and very close to old school McMahon of the past and sort of saved the show and the ratings have went up. I'd say half the RAWs since the PPV have been good but half of them sucked, which is a good record for RAW this year.

The announcers have been really bad. Booker T and JBL need to be fired. Fortunely they just signed Mauro Ranallo and he debuted on Smackdown two weeks ago doing commentary with Lawler. He was great and the best person to probably announce since Jim Ross. His chemistry with Lawler was really good and Lawler was busting his balls and actually acting like he was in the 90s. Hopefully they'll end up replacing the entire announce team with quality announcers.

[Big_Japan]

Make no mistake, they still have absolutely no idea what to do with the wyatts. The storyline went to shit two RAWS in after that match and immediately became forgetable. The wwe's biggest flaw since ive started watching again is the storylines, which is why RAW and Smackdown mostly have been unwatchable and i ignored the shows for a long time.

A lot of wrestlers including Mick Foley and Steve Austin have been very vocal about their dislike for the storylines too which I think they are now starting to pay attention to. The fans at last years Royal Rumble almost had a riot due to the booking of the finish and since then they have been putting some effort into the PPVs, like you see in that match.

Vince Mcmahon came back after the last PPV and his involvement as a heel with his antics against Roman Reigns have been hilarious and very close to old school McMahon of the past and sort of saved the show and the ratings have went up. I'd say half the RAWs since the PPV have been good but half of them sucked, which is a good record for RAW this year.

The announcers have been really bad. Booker T and JBL need to be fired. Fortunely they just signed Mauro Ranallo and he debuted on Smackdown two weeks ago doing commentary with Lawler. He was great and the best person to probably announce since Jim Ross. His chemistry with Lawler was really good and Lawler was busting his balls and actually acting like he was in the 90s. Hopefully they'll end up replacing the entire announce team with quality announcers.

just confirming that i did not read any of this

[AzzarTheGod]

Vince Mcmahon came back after the last PPV and his involvement as a heel with his antics against Roman Reigns have been hilarious and very close to old school McMahon of the past and sort of saved the show and the ratings have went up. I'd say half the RAWs since the PPV have been good but half of them sucked, which is a good record for RAW this year.

Pretty good. I might try to tune in if Vince is back for a lil nostalgia.





The announcers have been really bad. Booker T and JBL need to be fired. Fortunely they just signed Mauro Ranallo and he debuted on Smackdown two weeks ago doing commentary with Lawler. He was great and the best person to probably announce since Jim Ross. His chemistry with Lawler was really good and Lawler was busting his balls and actually acting like he was in the 90s. Hopefully they'll end up replacing the entire announce team with quality announcers.

Yeah I didn't want to outright call it garbage, but its garbage. They went for that "Realistic" fight announcing stuff intentionally I heard, to try to make the product more "real" like the UFC. And it sucked.

Anyone with exposure to late 90s early 2000s tuning in had the same complaint about the new announcers. Which was tons of dead air, and weak hype not doing justice to the matches that were taking place.

Mauro is a huge signing. He knows all the history and his style is basically JR 2.0 with a bigger quirky vocabulary. They desperately need a big voice ever since JR left. Why in the fuck did it take until 2016, that strikes me as bad business. Glad they figured that out.

[AzzarTheGod]

just confirming that i did not read any of this

Its like Vietnam, you had to be there.

[Spyder73]

called it - GG HHH

[Oleris]

styles/owens/zayn triple threat at WM? sounds good

[AzzarTheGod]

9) Bray Wyatt - not big enough of a star yet IMO to headline Mania


Triples H's absence is conspicuous enough for me to believe he will come and win, resulting in a push for the Authority narrative that is on the brink of exhaustion.

You called it.

Also just caught this.

The question is will Bray Wyatt ever be a big enough star to headline Mania?

Maybe if they beat the crap out of enough HoF legends together after they just lost a match they will finally get "over" enough in the eyes of creative to be worthy of a real storyline?

I'll say the comeback is a big improvement from the The Brood treatment they were getting a few years ago. A family feud with the right outside characters involved could go a long way.

[Furniture]

Is it too late to change my prediction?