VD + GM = SUPERBAD

[Uberom]

Just a follow up on my previous thread of "VD = BAD". I went out to Ocean of Tears today to check out AC spawn. Sure enough it was camped, as I suspected. Unfortunately for me, it was camped by a member of VD. Since I said on my last thread that I would refuse to honor any camp they hold, ever again, because they had stolen my Efreeti camp, I had to follow up on my oath. I proceeded to summon my pet and kill PH's as they spawned. The member of VD sent tells like "This is camped" etc etc. Sort of reminded me of when I sent tells and /ooc that Efreeti was camped when VD stole it from me. Anyways, all the fucking scrubs there grouped up so that I couldn't possibly take the kill, which was just hilarious. I continued to troll them and anger them, just for pure enjoyment. At one point I was speaking German to the VD guy, who went on Google to try and find the German phrase for "This is camped". He found it, I had no idea what the hell it said! I even sent in a petition saying that they were trying to steal my camp, which I had rightfully attained since the holder of said camp went AFK. (This was a lie, obviously.) However, it still should have been investigated, right? See below.

Greetings,



6. AFK camping is not respected and is frowned upon, if caught afk camping you will be booted to the character select screen.




A couple of moments later, I was booted to the character select screen. "This account is currently suspended".

That's odd?

When I petitioned that my efreeti camp was stolen by members of Venereal Disease, the GM "Hobby" came and asked for both sides of the story. So when my camp gets stolen, a "fair trial" is given. When I steal another's camp, I'm immediately suspended without even being questioned or notified of my trespass.

When my camp was stolen, Hobby allowed members of Venereal Disease to submit arbitrary and incorrect information. Information such as "The ENC died to Efreeti", when this was not the case, because the Enchanter looted GEBS. After Hobby saw the logs that confirmed this, he probed for more stories, and VD came up with bullshit on the fucking dime. At one point they said, "The whole spawn was popped", which is again a lie because a Mage has zero CC ability(with a fire pet), and if that were the case, would I not be dead along with the ENC? The camp was not fully spawned, because we had just finished clearing it, and the ENC happened to aggro a roamer because of incorrect character placement. I admit, that was a small mistake on our part. But in no way did we ever lose control of the camp, and all this happened within a time frame of MAXIMUM five minutes? Venereal Cuntbags also stated that they gave me a chance to "exhibit the ability to hold the camp". Whilst nobody but me will ever know because it was only me and 6 VDicks up there, they stated this in /ooc WHILE continuing to clear the camp. They never once actually stopped pulling and gave me a chance. I could have, if it really mattered, pulled the imps outside. However, that isn't how our duo clears the camp. We have a particular way of charming pets and what not, a particular order that we like to pull things and that's our strategy, which is NOT open for discussion. We exhibit the ability to hold and clear the camp by the fact that we just killed Efreeti, /ooc told the whole zone about it, and I had control of the Enchanter's corpse in a safe spot while he was running back up (bound outside of SolB).




4. In order to hold a camp, the player or group must be able to demonstrate the ability to hold the camp without further help.



"The player or group must..." It clearly says "or", which implies that if you have a group you must demonstrate this, but if your just a player, you must. We were grouped, therefore if anything, Venereal Brown Holes should have waited for the Enchanter to retain his corpse and "demonstrate" to them on the next PH. They did not wait, for either my group, or just me, to demonstrate anything. They killed whatever, whenever. Everything except the PH himself, because my buddy and I are just too skilled to let some fucking Euro-cunt outpull us :D (get raped Roofie).

VD makes the claim that, "The ENC didn't show up for X minutes". This is again a lie. The ENC was back way before the PH had spawned. As I stated before, the whole incident of him dying and retaining his corpse took maybe 5 minutes. A small mistake, but we have the right to make mistakes in our camp, as long as we can...



1. Going forward, if you intend to hold or claim a camp, your group must retain presence at that camp.



which as I already stated, I had presence at the camp at all times. I also exhibited that I had control of the camp when I killed the roamer that was beating on my AFK turned dead Enchanter friend. How can I exhibit that I can hold the camp, when half the camp is wiped and VD is clearing and pulling the other side of it? Again, everything in the PH room was dead. What do I exhibit on? Want me to pull random shit just to show you fuckers something? No, not how it works.

If this is the case, let me know in PMs, I would gladly come to any camp you hold, IE Frenzy, and tell you how to pull and when to pull. If you don't do it my way, does that make the camp mine because "You can't exhibit the ability to hold it" to me? Who's the party that needs to be satisfied here, the party who retains the camp or the party who comes up challenging it? If the latter is the case, any party could take ANY camp in the game with the mere argument "Well if you dont pull that mob over there right now, I'm taking camp because apparently you can't hold it".

At the end of all these logical failures on Hobby's part, his final solution was for both parties to /random on the spawn. I opted out of this because of principle, and gated.

So today, when I was trying to steal the AC camp, why wasn't I given my chance to /random on the camp? Why wasn't I given my chance to come up with bullshit stories and inaccurate information? If a group can waltz in to a spawn, and the logs show the rightful owner of the spawn killing the rare mob only minutes ago, can still get a /random at a camp, then why can't I get a /random at a camp that I just waltzed into?

From as far as I can tell, the more people you have saying something, the stronger your argument is. Six Venereal Disease members apparently is more convincing than the two rightful owners of the spawn, regardless of the failures in argument and combat logs.

Scenario: Guild A has camp with 9 players in it. Guild B comes with 10 and starts taking camp. Guild A petitions. GM sees that Guild A has been there longer, and has retained presence continually. Guild B makes fallible arguments. GM notes that 10 > 9, and therefore Guild B's argument has some validity to it? GM gets frustrated at the simple decision he is tasked with, so he makes the guild /random for the camp. Does that make sense? Apparently to VD and the GM's, it does.

Moral of the story: If you want to steal camps in P1999, make sure you bring more members than the group holding the camp currently. This gives you a "stronger argument" and you will likely be able to /random for the camp. If you taunt the GM's about their decisions, like asking Hobby in ECTunnels if you can /random for the Efreeti camp, you will likely be suspended.

Get fucking raped, baddies.

-Ardipithecus Ramidus

[korrowan]

I Lol'd

[Messianic]

Hobby's a really good guy. Maybe he did lapse in judgment.


I wonder if it was worth the spectacle you're making of it.

Anyhow, posting in what will probably be another 10+ page thread if it's not deleted beforehand...

[Seaweedpimp]

IM FREEEE!!!

Jk incongnito ;)

[Henini]

inb4 forum ban!

[Uthgaard]

Cool story bro. Except for all the details you're leaving out.

There was never any decision rendered in the efreeti camp. You raged off and gave it up voluntarily. Just goes to show that some people place a higher value on a reason to cry than the camp they're crying about.

Perpetual victim.

[Ihealyou]

So you stole the camp of someone just because they're in the guild that took your efreeti camp, but otherwise had nothing to do with it. I know life isn't fair, and everyone is against you, but you're a douche. Two wrongs don't make a right. I would have banned you too.

[Seaweedpimp]

Im too scared to rage. Uth will fuck youre gaming days up!

Please dont ban me.

I love uthgard.

[Hobby]

Enjoy the suspension =)

[Uberom]

Cool story bro. Except for all the details you're leaving out.

There was never any decision rendered in the efreeti camp. You raged off and gave it up voluntarily. Just goes to show that some people place a higher value on a reason to cry than the camp they're crying about.

Perpetual victim.

Not to rain on your "cool story bro" post, it was pretty awesome, however incorrect... (puddi puddi)

The "decision rendered" was made by Hobby, that me and one of the members of VD should "roll on the camp". I believe I stated this in my story, maybe you didn't read it thoroughly. When this decision was made, I opted out and gated. By rolling I would therefore concede that VD has some valid argument or entitlement to the camp. I did not, will not, nor will ever admit or concede this point. Therefore, I told everyone to go fuck themselves, and gated.

You claim that I place a higher value on a reason to cry? Or is it that I place a higher value on the rules and principles that govern our server? I think the latter. But then again, as Trystych from IB once said in Ventrillo regarding server rules "Moot point. It doesn't matter".

If by crying you mean pointing out all the fallacies in the way my situation was handled and the breaking of server rules, then yes, I'm crying .....

but then again, there are people in life who take principle and truth seriously, me being one of them. So I made a point, and you all got fucking stunned by it, or else the most widely recognized GM in the game wouldn't be posting on my thread that "left details out".

My argument is infallible, I designed it like that, and I wouldn't bring up an argument that I have any chance of losing. The only problem I'm running into is people hate to admit they are wrong, human egos.

C'mon Uthgaard, I won this argument before it even started.

If I am suspended for camp stealing, then I immediately move for the 6 members of VD that stole my camp to also be suspended for equal time. This is only fair, is it not?

Or do I get "special treatment" because I refuse to let injustice and illogical decisions stand unhindered?

/Perpetual victim on

[Taslion]

I thought mobs that weren't in dungeons were "first to engage"... so, am I wrong? Had some druid nearly snipe hadden under my nose claiming this once.

[RapidScotch]

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=3278

[Taslion]

And GMs, you guys not giving a shit at all as to making real replies is childish.

[Ihealyou]

My argument is infallible, I designed it like that.

The only problem I'm running into is people hate to admit they are wrong

[Seaweedpimp]

lol @ i think the beast is dead.


WHO THE HELL KEEPS FEEDING THE BEAST?

I demand gms tell .

[Uthgaard]

The "decision rendered" was made by Hobby, that me and one of the members of VD should "roll on the camp". I believe I stated this in my story, maybe you didn't read it thoroughly. When this decision was made, I opted out and gated. By rolling I would therefore concede that VD has some valid argument or entitlement to the camp. I did not, will not, nor will ever admit or concede this point. Therefore, I told everyone to go fuck themselves, and gated.

[Thu Dec 02 16:25:32 2010] You say, 'since i dont believe either one of you two completely....we'll make this a pretty simple decision'
[Thu Dec 02 16:25:42 2010] Ardipithecus says, 'no , actually ill make the decision'
[Thu Dec 02 16:25:45 2010] Ardipithecus says, 'fuck you VD'
[Thu Dec 02 16:25:47 2010] Ardipithecus says, 'AKE it'
[Thu Dec 02 16:25:52 2010] Ardipithecus says, 'HAVE IT'
[Thu Dec 02 16:26:00 2010] You say, 'well... i was going to have you two roll but that solves it too!'

You made the decision to rage off before he said anything about rolling on the camp, so you can stop pretending that you threw your tantrum on some higher moral principle. The cool thing is, you don't have to concede to be wrong.

[RapidScotch]

I posted the i think the beast is fed, the feed the beast however, is still a conspiracy!

[Rais]

We should have week for " Be a dick". Payback all the wrongs that have been committed to anyone,and have no recourse. It make old school Veeshan drama look weak!

I would aim for Uthgaard for snaring my monk in MM! /roar

[Seaweedpimp]

Hey, any gms need thier car washed its np.

[RocketMoose]

Simply ban all of IB and VD and this server would be a much better place.

[Uberom]

You made the decision to rage off before he said anything about rolling on the camp, so you can stop pretending that you threw your tantrum on some higher moral principle. The cool thing is, you don't have to concede to be wrong.

It doesn't take a genius to figure out Hobby's intentions after he said "simple decision". Considering there are no quarters in the game, and there is only one way of arbitrarily deciding things, I knew he was going to have us roll for it.

I knew that the second he let VD start explaining lies and shit.

I knew that the second he saw that we killed Efreeti last and didn't immediately kick VD out.

I knew that when VD had 6 people telling their story and we only had 2.

But, maybe your right Uthgaard. Maybe I have no morals and no principles at all. Maybe I just like to make points on forums. Maybe I like to knowingly get my account suspended and not play my favorite game for X amount of days...

ok ok, I know how to decide this. Let's roll on it!

[Spud]

I thought mobs that weren't in dungeons were "first to engage"... so, am I wrong? Had some druid nearly snipe hadden under my nose claiming this once.

nah, thats b.s.

Greetings, 5. Outdoor pathing mobs are not campable unless you are sitting at the spawn point and able to engage it instantly. Outdoor mobs on fast respawn such as HG and spectres, if you cannot engage immediately you do not hold the camp. Please try and share with fellow players in these instances.

Just because Hadden pops and the druid attacks him before you doesn't mean it's his mob. If you were were there camping hadden you have first right to kill him when he pops.

[Messianic]

Simply ban all of IB and VD and this server would be a much better place.

.........

[Roofie]

. Anyways, all the fucking scrubs there grouped up so that I couldn't possibly take the kill, which was just hilarious. I continued to troll them and anger them, just for pure enjoyment.

because my buddy and I are just too skilled to let some fucking Euro-cunt outpull us :D (get raped Roofie).



1- I live in Austin Texas..

2- You lose..

[RapidScotch]

http://joshmoyers.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/qq.png

[RocketMoose]

.........

Haven't met a single decent person from either guild to this point.

[RapidScotch]

Haven't met a single decent person from either guild to this point.

Probably because most of them only log on to raid, and you meet the farmers/random groups. Most times i've seen they run around probably talking on vent so they don't really type (which can be seen as asshole-ish to some)

idk... I've just never had any bad experiences, of course everyones gonna have some bad eggs, can't win em' all, this isn't pokemon!

[RocketMoose]

Probably because most of them only log on to raid, and you meet the farmers/random groups. Most times i've seen they run around probably talking on vent so they don't really type (which can be seen as asshole-ish to some)

idk... I've just never had any bad experiences, of course everyones gonna have some bad eggs, can't win em' all, this isn't pokemon!

Nah I don't mind not talking, I just mind the people who come in and steal camps from legit groups and bring their 2box in to PL it. But have GMs in their pockets so they don't really have anything to worry about they're allowed to screw over whoever they want.

People whine about 2boxers ruining the game, it's people like that who ruin the game, not the act of 2 boxing.

[Winobot]

When I read the first couple of pages of your other thread, I felt as though you were screwed. My interpretation of the camp language is that technically when your enchanter friend died your group was unfit for that camp. Although it was a definite doucher move by VD to move in and start taking pulls.

After continuing to read, I’m fully sold on the fact that you fucked yourself because of your immature and childish behavior. I’d be surprised if you were over the age of 15, because you’re acting like a dumb little bitch. To be honest, the more I read, the more I truly hate you.

This thread isn't about VD anymore, it's about whiney little fuckwits that can't control their tempers. You're like a screaming baby that I want to punch in the mouth.

[Uberom]

When I read the first couple of pages of your other thread, I felt as though you were screwed. My interpretation of the camp language is that technically when your enchanter friend died your group was unfit for that camp. Although it was a definite doucher move by VD to move in and start taking pulls.

After continuing to read, I’m fully sold on the fact that you fucked yourself because of your immature and childish behavior. I’d be surprised if you were over the age of 15, because you’re acting like a dumb little bitch. To be honest, the more I read, the more I truly hate you.

This thread isn't about VD anymore, it's about whiney little fuckwits that can't control their tempers. You're like a screaming baby that I want to punch in the mouth.

Then don't read, bitch.

[Rais]

RapidScotch- How could you forget me, and that wonderful night in Lguk?! /cry

[Lazortag]

Awesome post^

Nah I don't mind not talking, I just mind the people who come in and steal camps from legit groups and bring their 2box in to PL it. But have GMs in their pockets so they don't really have anything to worry about they're allowed to screw over whoever they want.

People whine about 2boxers ruining the game, it's people like that who ruin the game, not the act of 2 boxing.

omg! This is so totally true and you have so much evidence for it!! Pocket GM's really is a big problem. It's a shame we don't have some kind of unbiased system with which to review egregious miscarriages of justice and acts of corruption on the part of GM's. Moron.

I even sent in a petition saying that they were trying to steal my camp, which I had rightfully attained since the holder of said camp went AFK. (This was a lie, obviously.) However, it still should have been investigated, right? See below.

..


A couple of moments later, I was booted to the character select screen. "This account is currently suspended".

That's odd?

When I petitioned that my efreeti camp was stolen by members of Venereal Disease, the GM "Hobby" came and asked for both sides of the story. So when my camp gets stolen, a "fair trial" is given. When I steal another's camp, I'm immediately suspended without even being questioned or notified of my trespass.

...

As soon as you petition that members of VD steal a camp of yours after you publicly state on the forums that you won't honour any camping claims of VD members (which is collective punishment by the way, making you a huge asshole), no GM needs to investigate a camp dispute between you and VD. They had no reason to believe you and by your own admission they were right. Why would an investigation be warranted if you already know what the outcome is going to be?

[Lazortag]

Awesome post^

This was referring to Winobot's post.

[Nakara]

Simply ban all of IB and VD and this server would be a much better place.

[xshayla701]

I felt bad for you the first time around but this just makes you retarded.

[Uberom]

This was referring to Winobot's post.

You guys don't like reading my posts, yet you read them, and comment on them? Cool.

Most of you are missing the point. I see I am dealing with people of lesser intelligence. Cool.

The only one who has brought up a point that is even close to pertinent is Uthgaard, who also happens to be the most likely person to ban me.

To his point: I can only suggest that when a GM is going to decide something arbitrarily, /random is used. I have never seen a dance off decision between players. I have never seen players flip a platinum piece for a decision. I assumed that he would make us roll, and my assumptions were correct. Hence, when he said that line, I immediately flipped out because it confirmed my suspicions of how the situation will play out.

If you don't like the point I'm bringing up, and you have no problems with camps or the server in general, then get the fuck off this thread. I could care less what a brigade of level 30 druids who reside in ECTunnels 90% of the time think about Everquest.

This thread is not here for you to critique the manner in which I am trying to make logical points. If you think I am "bitching", then go to the fucking lame ass threads and play grab ass with Tralina, this is a thread for the big boys. There are some real issues that need to be addressed regarding camps and rules. I feel, actually I know, that my camp was stolen and my situation treated unfairly. Stealing a camp requires time, and VD wasted my time that night, yet I was never compensated with their penalization. And yet, I am being penalized for doing the exact same thing they did, only trying to make a point about it. Did I ACTUALLY injure Meghx from VD in any way? No, I simply helped him kill cyclops' faster.

The funny thing is, I don't see any of you in game camping high level shit like what I usually am doing. Most of you don't even belong on this thread. And it still stands, when this shit happens to you, you would react like I did now. The difference between me and most of you, is that I have the intelligence to articulate my argument so that it makes sense, and provokes inquiry. Hence, the fucking developer of the game comes on the thread and has to clean up a messy situation.

Let me end on a good note, though, because I think I have made every possible argument, and there is nothing left to try and convince baddies of the truth and logic.

To Hobby and Uthgaard and the rest of DEV, thanks for all the time you guys put in to the server. Regardless of anything I've said, don't take offense to it as a personal attack, as it is only to achieve my goal of making people understand what exactly happened. I truly believe that some server rules need to be reestablished and/or reworked because situations like these are bullshit. Might doesn't make right. I was robbed of an important spawn, and I'm now suspended for challenging the decision and trying to make a universal point.

Most martyrs die for what they believe in. Case in point:

JFK
Jesus
MLK Jr.

And usually, they are opposed by the masses (in this case a brigade of level 30 Druid forum trolls) even though they are fighting for righteousness.

What is right is not always popular, what is popular is not always right.

You all stand corrected.

[korrowan]

Lol @ important spawn.

[quellren]

Most martyrs die for what they believe in. Case in point:

JFK
Jesus
MLK Jr.



/facepalm

I'm very eager to hear some justification for the first and third examples.
Maybe you wanna throw Abraham Lincoln in there as the last nail in the coffin?

[inyane]

you really just compared yourself to JFK, Jesus, and MLK Jr?
wow.

[Messianic]

Arrogant OP is arrogant

[Uberom]

/facepalm

I'm very eager to hear some justification for the first and third examples.
Maybe you wanna throw Abraham Lincoln in there as the last nail in the coffin?

JFK and MLK Jr. were both assassinated fighting for causes they believed to be righteous, and in hindsight, we as a society now accept those causes to be righteous.

I can continue the history lesson, if you need it...

/facepalm back at you.

[Uthgaard]

The only one who has brought up a point that is even close to pertinent is Uthgaard, who also happens to be the most likely person to ban me.

LOL. True story, but it's far more effective to continue to let you speak.

Next time someone comes here with a half-told sob story that people buy into, they'll have a prime example of what kind of person is telling it. No one ruled against you, or in favor of anyone else. Comparing yourself to JFK, MLK, and Jesus? Hilarious. You crucified yourself.

I'm going to make something really clear though. Babysitting camp disputes is not a server priority. When shit goes wrong through no fault of a player, that's what we're here to fix. When you cause problems for yourselves, one of the two is going to come out of it full of piss and vinegar.

You don't have to like the resolution. But you do have to do it.

[Serith]

Just a follow up on my previous thread of "VD = BAD". I went out to Ocean of Tears today to check out AC spawn.

Ironic.

[quellren]

JFK and MLK Jr. were both assassinated fighting for causes they believed to be righteous, and in hindsight, we as a society now accept those causes to be righteous.

I can continue the history lesson, if you need it...

/facepalm back at you.

Nevermind. The confusion came because I thought you knew what martyred meant. My fault.

Neither JFK nor MLK were martyrs. Posterity has, in many ways, chosen to link the death of Martin Luther King with the dire need of civil rights equality, but he was not a martyr.
I'm still not sure what you think JFK died championing.

I'll retain my original /facepalm at you.

[Uberom]

LOL. True story, but it's far more effective to continue to let you speak.

Next time someone comes here with a half-told sob story that people buy into, they'll have a prime example of what kind of person is telling it. No one ruled against you, or in favor of anyone else. Comparing yourself to JFK, MLK, and Jesus? Hilarious. You crucified yourself.

I'm going to make something really clear though. Babysitting camp disputes is not a server priority. When shit goes wrong through no fault of a player, that's what we're here to fix. When you cause problems for yourselves, one of the two is going to come out of it full of piss and vinegar.

You don't have to like the resolution. But you do have to do it.

Half-told sob story. Damn. I though I wrote a book on the subject so far. In fact, however, my story is the only version that is full and accurate. You made one point with your detail that I raged, but that doesn't discredit the solution that Hobby wanted to employ, which ironically, somehow I knew the situation would end that way.

I knew people would take my example of martyrdom and flame at it. In logic its called "argumentum ad hominim" which, in Latin, mean "argument against the person". Logicians call these types of arguments logical fallacies. I lost some of you at this point, its ok, just go log on your druid. Most of these community trolls are making arguments against me, not the camp dispute. At least you tried, but I think my argument would have won in any court, except P1999 of course. The reason of not having time to deal with player disputes isn't sufficient for dealing with them unfairly. If you guys don't have the time to deal with player disputes, make me a GM, and I will gladly write server rules that are thorough and take into account unique camps like Efreeti. I think I've already exhibited the skills required to come to logical decisions.

As for the rest of you, keep flaming. My argument stands and still kills all of your nonchalant comments about "uberom this" and "uberom that".

You baddies are getting srsly raped.

[Uberom]

Nevermind. The confusion came because I thought you knew what martyred meant. My fault.

Neither JFK nor MLK were martyrs. Posterity has, in many ways, chosen to link the death of Martin Luther King with the dire need of civil rights equality, but he was not a martyr.
I'm still not sure what you think JFK died championing.

I'll retain my original /facepalm at you.

JFK died championing the fight against political corruption. They assassinated him. Or do you believe otherwise?

MLK Jr. died championing the fight against social injustice and racism. They assassinated him. Or do you believe otherwise?

Nobody ever makes an attempt to discredit Jesus, which is ironic because he is the one we know LEAST about.

Your /facepalm broke upon impact.

/served

[Uberom]

Damn. I should get paid to break you bads all day long.

[Salty]

GMs farted around until you raged at them.

Sounds par for the course.


The trick is, when someone throws false accusations to GMs, you do it too. This makes them so aggrivated that chances are instead of just you being screwed, everyone else gets screwed.

To win is not to admit defeat. To win you must be a gigantic fag right back. Justice will not be served on your behalf.

[mr.miketastic]

1- I live in Austin Texas..

2- You lose..

Werd. Round Rock here

[Uberom]

GMs farted around until you raged at them.

Sounds par for the course.


The trick is, when someone throws false accusations to GMs, you do it too. This makes them so aggrivated that chances are instead of just you being screwed, everyone else gets screwed.

To win is not to admit defeat. To win you must be a gigantic fag right back. Justice will not be served on your behalf.

Well said. I tried to keep it legit and tell a truthful story the entire time, but lies and deceit defeated me. But isn't that a common theme in today's world? Liars and cheaters get ahead? Lol.

Whatever. My account is suspended and I'm bored. Time to roll a Monk. Wonder what hes going to be used for......

[Nakara]

When you cause problems for yourselves, one of the two is going to come out of it full of piss and vinegar.


maybe you should tell your GM's to make sure it's the right party next time so we don't get 20 threads about it!?

[Alkorin]

Damn. I should get paid to whine, piss and moan all day long.

Fixed.

You really need to get out more.

[quellren]

JFK died championing the fight against political corruption. They assassinated him. Or do you believe otherwise?

MLK Jr. died championing the fight against social injustice and racism. They assassinated him. Or do you believe otherwise?

Nobody ever makes an attempt to discredit Jesus, which is ironic because he is the one we know LEAST about.

Your /facepalm broke upon impact.

/served

They? Who the fuck is they? Are you one of those conspiracy theorists that believes a secret society runs the world?

1st: No one to this day agrees *why* JFK was assassinated. Seriously, there are people who have dedicated their lives to it. nearly 50 years later it's been offered up as possibly 'The question of the 20th century'
Theories range from the most plausible 'nutjob with an axe to grind' to the laughable 'he wanted to bring the Hoover-esque CIA to heel plus end Vietnam' to the truly outlandish 'He was a member of the Illuminati gone rogue and needed to be silenced'.
He wasn't a martyr if people can't agree what he died for.

2nd: MLK- One crazy guy with an inordinately large streak of racism (and a large criminal record) acted out of rage against another person with an opposing ideal. I'm starting to think you need to hit up Webster-Merriam to re-acquaint yourself with the term martyr before we continue this discussion.

I in NO WAY want to discount what Martin Luther King Jr. had to say, or the equality he fought for, but make no mistake, he never offered to die for it.

No one discredits Jesus' martyrdom, because according to the bible, he actually VOLUNTEERED to die for a cause.

I'm gonna let it go. I pretty much put this thing into the 'for shits-n-giggles' column when you compared your hissy-fit over a video game to the fight for civil rights.

It's been fun.

[Dantes]

You probably would have lost the roll anyway.

[Ongbak]

This thread delivered, QQ

[Kavanah]

I'm even more satisfied now that I chose to app to VD >_<

But that has nothing to do with these posts!

[Uberom]

They? Who the fuck is they? Are you one of those conspiracy theorists that believes a secret society runs the world?

1st: No one to this day agrees *why* JFK was assassinated. Seriously, there are people who have dedicated their lives to it. nearly 50 years later it's been offered up as possibly 'The question of the 20th century'
Theories range from the most plausible 'nutjob with an axe to grind' to the laughable 'he wanted to bring the Hoover-esque CIA to heel plus end Vietnam' to the truly outlandish 'He was a member of the Illuminati gone rogue and needed to be silenced'.
He wasn't a martyr if people can't agree what he died for.

2nd: MLK- One crazy guy with an inordinately large streak of racism (and a large criminal record) acted out of rage against another person with an opposing ideal. I'm starting to think you need to hit up Webster-Merriam to re-acquaint yourself with the term martyr before we continue this discussion.

I in NO WAY want to discount what Martin Luther King Jr. had to say, or the equality he fought for, but make no mistake, he never offered to die for it.

No one discredits Jesus' martyrdom, because according to the bible, he actually VOLUNTEERED to die for a cause.

I'm gonna let it go. I pretty much put this thing into the 'for shits-n-giggles' column when you compared your hissy-fit over a video game to the fight for civil rights.

It's been fun.

I didnt compare the events, I compared the ideology behind them..

"What is popular is not always right, what is right is not always popular."

Hence, I wrote the theme statement to be recognized directly after the comparison.

Also..there is not one definition for martyr. There are quite a few.

This is directly from Oxford English dictionary....something you probably don't have free access to.

2. a. In extended (esp. non-religious) contexts: a person who undergoes death or great suffering for a faith, belief, or cause, or (usu. with to; also with of, for) through devotion to some object

I think that sufficiently ends that debate.

As to the question of "they". I think it is pretty obvious that if a mystery on the scale of such is not solved, then the government has something to do with it. To think that in an age we live in , we couldn't solve a murder if we put the resources to it, is just naive. Someone out there knows, and if I did, I wouldn't be the type of person to play EQ. I would probably be in some D.C. office regulating our national government.

Sir, your efforts were valiant, but in vain.

[Acillatem]

Dude lol

You claim one of the reasons yer mad is because you called Efreeti in camp checks and wanna know why we came up anywayz.

Answer? Because /ooc at the time in SolB had a few people claiming you had just trained them at B&B. Sorry, but IMO that warrants at least a drive-by to see if yer still up there.

THEN you get pissed claiming we have no respect for spawns or camps etc.

But the first person to initiate ANY form of communication was YOU by ranting in /ooc about the camp JUST as we get to the top. We hadn't even DONE anything at this point other than show up at the top of the ramp and aggro one of the statics.

You wanted to be an asshole from the get-go. YOU set the tone of the encounter, we just followed suit.

Now - you said the efreeti chamber wasn't respawned, but yesterday you said:

We were camping 1 spawn.
Obviously we were pulling mobs at a reasonable rate, because again, half the spawn was fucking killed.
I've already said that the efreeti and all the mobs pertinent to the spawn were down. The only thing up was the imps outside which we use as pets and shit.

Now that last one is important and proves my point.

Because it's already been established that the Efreeti was just killed. Anyone who has done Efreeti in the past knows you can't pacify the Efreeti. You hafta pacify the room and then pull the Efreeti FIRST. If that was the case that means the Efreeti PH would be the first respawn after the statics outside.

You are openly admitting the respawns were up outside when we got there.

So we:

a)killed the one we aggrod upon arrival
b)had our little spat in /ooc and /say
c)charmed the other static outside

Do you really think that in that time frame 1 more mob (Efreeti PH) hadn't respawned? Because that's what you are trying to convince everyone here. Your whole argument is that I'm lying about the Efreeti PH being respawned, yet you are providing all the evidence I need to show it was.

As I already said - maybe if you had taken a more political approach about it rather than mouthing off from the get-go, we wouldn't have done what we did. No doubt it was a dick move, but I'm not going to be all "rosy nice" to someone who acts like a jerk right off the bat. At that point - any semblance of me being nice and respecting your camp mid-wipe kinda get tossed out the window.

And I SERIOUSLY doubt anyone else would have done anything different. If you roll up on a person struggling with a camp and the first words out of their mouth are insults and petitions - how would you respond? "oh let us rez your poor ENC kind sir and we'll leave."

Hell no - you would have been provoked into doing exactly what I did.

[Kavanah]

Dude lol

You claim one of the reasons yer mad is because you called Efreeti in camp checks and wanna know why we came up anywayz.

Answer? Because /ooc at the time in SolB had a few people claiming you had just trained them at B&B. Sorry, but IMO that warrants at least a drive-by to see if yer still up there.

THEN you get pissed claiming we have no respect for spawns or camps etc.

But the first person to initiate ANY form of communication was YOU by ranting in /ooc about the camp JUST as we get to the top. We hadn't even DONE anything at this point other than show up at the top of the ramp and aggro one of the statics.

You wanted to be an asshole from the get-go. YOU set the tone of the encounter, we just followed suit.

Now - you said the efreeti chamber wasn't respawned, but yesterday you said:





Now that last one is important and proves my point.

Because it's already been established that the Efreeti was just killed. Anyone who has done Efreeti in the past knows you can't pacify the Efreeti. You hafta pacify the room and then pull the Efreeti FIRST. If that was the case that means the Efreeti PH would be the first respawn after the statics outside.

You are openly admitting the respawns were up outside when we got there.

So we:

a)killed the one we aggrod upon arrival
b)had our little spat in /ooc and /say
c)charmed the other static outside

Do you really think that in that time frame 1 more mob (Efreeti PH) hadn't respawned? Because that's what you are trying to convince everyone here. Your whole argument is that I'm lying about the Efreeti PH being respawned, yet you are providing all the evidence I need to show it was.

As I already said - maybe if you had taken a more political approach about it rather than mouthing off from the get-go, we wouldn't have done what we did. No doubt it was a dick move, but I'm not going to be all "rosy nice" to someone who acts like a jerk right off the bat. At that point - any semblance of me being nice and respecting your camp mid-wipe kinda get tossed out the window.

And I SERIOUSLY doubt anyone else would have done anything different. If you roll up on a person struggling with a camp and the first words out of their mouth are insults and petitions - how would you respond? "oh let us rez your poor ENC kind sir and we'll leave."

Hell no - you would have been provoked into doing exactly what I did.

Sooo... if VD wipes on a raid target, its up for grabs by any other guild during their time of recouping right? From what I've gathered via the forums, that is the general rule of thumb right? The strong get the raid target. The quick to mobilize get the raid target. I'm not saying I agree or disagree with that playstyle, I just don't see why it would be different for a mob that is duoable vs a raid target or why someone would be shocked about this. In the very least just call it a douch move which I believe Acc has already claimed it to be, whether or not you were a douche in the first place. Just seems like this situation is in line with what the rest of the server does/agrees with. /shrug.

[Uberom]

Actually, I believe your warrior mouthed off first saying that I needed to exhibit the ability to clear the camp. THEN I proceeded to rant off in /ooc. You engaged my camp, my mobs, and my anger first, not the other way around.

Secondly, your logic is once again flawed. The spawn rate in there is over 20 minutes. Your group did not take 20 minutes to kill the imps outside. Your group was standing by, as well as myself and the Enchanter, before the PH spawned. I know this because I had him on timer, and when he did spawn, we pulled him.

I don't see what your argument is here. You claim that I raged first, but it was my camp, and you guys threatened to take it ... so, yes, I had something to say about it.

So, again, go fuck yourself...you have zero respect...

Apparently if you steal a camp, and the other guy gets mad about it, your entitled to the camp?? LOL. Nice logic, asshole.

I linked GEBS as soon as efreeti went down. You guys show up anyway? Lol. You want me to send you a screenshot next time to prove to you that I have the camp under control?

Face it, your wrong. You know it, the server knows it. Your a fucking cuntbag who took advantage of have 6 people vs only 2 .

GTFO my thread bitch.

[warrioman]

There are a few key assumptions one must make while playing on P1999. The sooner you understand this the better.

1) Everybody is against you. Everybody wants the best loot and they will do anything to get it. Your "friends" in your guild? They're using you to get loot. Other guilds? They want to cut you out of the running for loot completely.

2) The GMs say they are fair. Say. Always assume GMs will not be on your side regardless of the who is in the right. People will say/do absolutely anything to get what they want in P1999. Always assume morals do not exist.

3) All guilds are equal before GMs. Some are just more equal.

4) If you have better gear than another you are superior in every way. You are better looking IRL, have a bigger penis, make more money, and are more important/central to the story of EQ. All players must bow before you and acknowledge that you are simply superior.

5) Obtaining gear is a result of: a) time committed b) luck c) social manipulation

6) Unlike real life, you will be punished if you find a way to make cash fast.

7) Everybody has a wife/girlfriend/brother

8) You aren't here to have fun. You are here to work. This is serious shit.

[Uberom]

There are a few key assumptions one must make while playing on P1999. The sooner you understand this the better.

1) Everybody is against you. Everybody wants the best loot and they will do anything to get it. Your "friends" in your guild? They're using you to get loot. Other guilds? They want to cut you out of the running for loot completely.

2) The GMs say they are fair. Say. Always assume GMs will not be on your side regardless of the who is in the right. People will say/do absolutely anything to get what they want in P1999. Always assume morals do not exist.

3) All guilds are equal before GMs. Some are just more equal.

4) If you have better gear than another you are superior in every way. You are better looking IRL, have a bigger penis, make more money, and are more important/central to the story of EQ. All players must bow before you and acknowledge that you are simply superior.

5) Obtaining gear is a result of: a) time committed b) luck c) social manipulation

6) Unlike real life, you will be punished if you find a way to make cash fast.

7) Everybody has a wife/girlfriend/brother

8) You aren't here to have fun. You are here to work. This is serious shit.

Lol. This guy right here is fucking legit. This is the type of mind I want on my side.

Well stated, sir. Someone sticky that post under, EDUCATION.

[Kavanah]

6) Unlike real life, you will be punished if you find a way to make cash fast.

Crap! I'm in trouble.


7) Everybody has a wife/girlfriend/brother


I have a fiance though...

[Kassel]

When you act like a punk, do not be suprised when you are treated like one.

[mitic]

turn the server red, problem solved

[Kassel]

turn the server red, problem solved

I like your ideas and would like to subscribe to your newsletter, HOWEVER if the problem is whinny bitches crying on the forums, enabling PVP will only increase the thread count.

[mitic]

I like your ideas and would like to subscribe to your newsletter, HOWEVER if the problem is whinny bitches crying on the forums, enabling PVP will only increase the thread count.

QQ threads are the sole reason playin pvp eq

[Acillatem]

I miss TZ :(

lol

[AexDestroy]

I showed up in OOT from FP. I see my friend is in the zone and I hit him up see what hes doing. He asks me the same I tell him Im gonna see if dino is open. he tells me dino had been up for a few minutes but he wasnt sure if it was camped. Then I ran across the zone from FP to dino island which takes a few more minutes. I have time to summon a pet and burnout him then I engage.
Then I /shou Dino taken.
I hear /shou Dino is taken.
I /shou No i mean, Im taking dino. Hes been up for a little while and I'm on him now.

I get a tell "dino is camped'
me: Nah its been up for a while and I attacked him man, read the rules its mine.
dude: soandso was getting his corpse. But he was at the camp so its his. And you're going to have to beat both of us to his spawn each time.
me: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
dude: or I can petition you
Me: go ahead youre in the wrong.
dude: someone was at the camp its not yours.
me: You had more than enough time to engage this mob.
Dude: we are not obligated to attack it the moment it spawns in.
Dude: Youve been petitioned if it gets answerred yorue going to be asked to leave.
me: you will too lol.
dude: otherwise we'll see who wins out each spawn.
(dino spawns in, I engage first they KS)
Dude: Sorry you lose lol
Me: circle jerk more. zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Dude: oh now you're crying?
Me: rivers.



I waited around for a while after this and even put in a petition myself.
Meanwhile they KSd me on every spawn I engaged.
Petition was never answerred.

I eventually just tried to just squash it and went to sleep.


But Hey, just so you know for future reference KAUSHI AND WEVLIN

5. Outdoor pathing mobs are not campable unless you are sitting at the spawn point and able to engage it instantly. Outdoor mobs on fast respawn such as HG and spectres, if you cannot engage immediately you do not hold the camp.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Okay, I was just going to let this guy pound nails into his own coffin because clearly he's a piece of work, but I don't like to see my guild drug through the dirt just as much as the next guy. When I waited until I was level 45 to join up with an actual guild (and not just a couple of friends tooling around and XPing together occasionally), it was important to me to find a guild where standards of behavior and integrity were important values. After all, just as much as my behavior reflects on my guild, the behavior of the guild reflects back on me.

I wasn't there for the Freeti Incident. I agree it was kind of a douche move and wish it had turned out better so I don't have some person suffering from Tourette's Syndrome and his enchanter "friend" trashing my guild. But, as someone mentioned before, you have guilds getting their raid targets snatched out from under them when they fail. You have guilds cramming into Hate or Fear taking advantage of one guild's work breaking into the plane. Also douche moves, but allowed by the rules. Where do you draw the line?

The server is goddamned camped to high hell, eagerly awaiting the release of new content. So yes, you have guilds breathing down each others' necks for raid targets. You have people waiting in line for the good loot/XP camps. However, there's a difference between being douchebags, and having a spine and sticking up for yourself. You don't go double-AFK when you're duoing on a decent loot camp. You did and were effectively wiped. Yes, you lived, but you lacked the ability to charm the pets and pacify the mobs needed to handle Freeti himself. If a raid wipes to Maestro because all 20 of them decided to go take a bio break at the same time, and a FD monk managed to live... you think he still "holds Maestro"? No. He can't take Maestro by himself, that raid effectively wiped, game over, next guild's turn. It was our fault for taking the 20-person shit.

No one is going to sit around and wait for you to unfuck yourself at the Freeti spawn after you and your enchanter "friend" thought up the tactically genius move of taking a dual shit together while you were duoing. As was mentioned before, even if your enchanter "friend" got back before the next PH respawn, it was because the group from VD was clearing the way for him.

After we killed Efreeti, we both went bio AFK.
I came back to see ENC dead, I killed the roamer that killed him.
Said ENC is bound outside of SOLB.
Said ENC comes back to his corpse, trailing VD who is clearing without question anything they come across.

You couldn't handle the spawn until the enchanter got back. The only reason the enchanter could get back was if a group was clearing the path.

THEN, we find out that poor Hobby shows up, can't figure out what the fuck is going on, because he doesn't believe EITHER SIDE:

[Thu Dec 02 16:25:32 2010] You say, 'since i dont believe either one of you two completely....we'll make this a pretty simple decision'

Which is fine, because everything is complete hearsay to him at this point. He does what I would expect the GM to do in this situation. Make an impartial decision and just let the random number generator sort it out. But then you go all emo like that Kurt guy on Glee (which I totally don't watch) and throw a tantrum:

[Thu Dec 02 16:25:42 2010] Ardipithecus says, 'no , actually ill make the decision'
[Thu Dec 02 16:25:45 2010] Ardipithecus says, 'fuck you VD'
[Thu Dec 02 16:25:47 2010] Ardipithecus says, 'AKE it'
[Thu Dec 02 16:25:52 2010] Ardipithecus says, 'HAVE IT'
[Thu Dec 02 16:26:00 2010] You say, 'well... i was going to have you two roll but that solves it too!'

Therefore benevolently and graciously yielding the camp to the VD group. THEN, you come here and post about your vendetta on how you're going to steal all of VD's camps:

Like I said, I can't wait to come up on a VD group. I'm going to do EVERYTHING in my power to KS, train etc because guess what? GM's wont do anything about it. They will make me /ran 100 to stop ....lol. Hell, I might even get a free camp!!!! MUAHHAHA

Next, you attempt to steal the AC camp and then wonder why the GM rules against you and then suspends your ass when you just admitted to everyone yesterday what your motive was? Once again, you are a tactical genius... but that is like a notch above the Double-Pooping Maneuver you invented yesterday.

Some flaws with your argument:

He found it, I had no idea what the hell it said! I even sent in a petition saying that they were trying to steal my camp, which I had rightfully attained since the holder of said camp went AFK. (This was a lie, obviously.) However, it still should have been investigated, right? See below.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xzerion View Post
Greetings,

6. AFK camping is not respected and is frowned upon, if caught afk camping you will be booted to the character select screen.

That's not what AFK camping is, otherwise the guy camping Hadden for the FB earring would get his camp stolen every time. You may want to check this out:

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=19589

In case you can't find it, here you go, from Nilbog himself:

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=160877&postcount=9


VD makes the claim that, "The ENC didn't show up for X minutes". This is again a lie. The ENC was back way before the PH had spawned. As I stated before, the whole incident of him dying and retaining his corpse took maybe 5 minutes. A small mistake, but we have the right to make mistakes in our camp, as long as we can...

Again, the enchanter made it to his corpse because he was trailing behind the VD group. Therefore, you needed their help to have your enchanter return so you could continue to fight, no? Or can a naked enchanter pacify/lull his way perfectly all the way there on his own? I dunno. I'm a ranger. I can't even make it past the first fucking kobold with my gear.

All I know is you're making a complete fool over yourself over one Freeti camp. That you gave to us when you nerdraged. At first it didn't sit right with me that it went down the way it did as I read it, but now that you're comparing yourself to Jesus and all sorts of insane shit like that... I'm just going to let your thread here speak for itself. Dick move in Freeti? Perhaps. I wasn't there, I'm not going to armchair quarterback this one. I would like to believe VD wouldn't have moved in had there been a compelling reason to believe you had control of the camp and were not just trying to "claim it while waiting for your enchanter "friend" to return".

Next time get a sock to poop in, did you not get that memo on this server yet? Then there would have been no question about whether you had control of the camp, this thread would not have been here, and at worst you're out a few socks. Don't use fishnet stockings though... lesson learned on that one, let me tell you.

The only good that has come from this entire situation is that synchronized group shitting has been banned in our guild.

[Hasbinbad]

Uberom, not tryina flame or anything, but your story brings a certain quote to my mind..

"You are in more dire need of a blowjob than any white man in history."
-Adrian Cronauer

[Uberom]

Okay, I was just going to let this guy pound nails into his own coffin because clearly he's a piece of work, but I don't like to see my guild drug through the dirt just as much as the next guy. When I waited until I was level 45 to join up with an actual guild (and not just a couple of friends tooling around and XPing together occasionally), it was important to me to find a guild where standards of behavior and integrity were important values. After all, just as much as my behavior reflects on my guild, the behavior of the guild reflects back on me.

I wasn't there for the Freeti Incident. I agree it was kind of a douche move and wish it had turned out better so I don't have some person suffering from Tourette's Syndrome and his enchanter "friend" trashing my guild. But, as someone mentioned before, you have guilds getting their raid targets snatched out from under them when they fail. You have guilds cramming into Hate or Fear taking advantage of one guild's work breaking into the plane. Also douche moves, but allowed by the rules. Where do you draw the line?

The server is goddamned camped to high hell, eagerly awaiting the release of new content. So yes, you have guilds breathing down each others' necks for raid targets. You have people waiting in line for the good loot/XP camps. However, there's a difference between being douchebags, and having a spine and sticking up for yourself. You don't go double-AFK when you're duoing on a decent loot camp. You did and were effectively wiped. Yes, you lived, but you lacked the ability to charm the pets and pacify the mobs needed to handle Freeti himself. If a raid wipes to Maestro because all 20 of them decided to go take a bio break at the same time, and a FD monk managed to live... you think he still "holds Maestro"? No. He can't take Maestro by himself, that raid effectively wiped, game over, next guild's turn. It was our fault for taking the 20-person shit.

No one is going to sit around and wait for you to unfuck yourself at the Freeti spawn after you and your enchanter "friend" thought up the tactically genius move of taking a dual shit together while you were duoing. As was mentioned before, even if your enchanter "friend" got back before the next PH respawn, it was because the group from VD was clearing the way for him.



You couldn't handle the spawn until the enchanter got back. The only reason the enchanter could get back was if a group was clearing the path.

THEN, we find out that poor Hobby shows up, can't figure out what the fuck is going on, because he doesn't believe EITHER SIDE:

[Thu Dec 02 16:25:32 2010] You say, 'since i dont believe either one of you two completely....we'll make this a pretty simple decision'

Which is fine, because everything is complete hearsay to him at this point. He does what I would expect the GM to do in this situation. Make an impartial decision and just let the random number generator sort it out. But then you go all emo like that Kurt guy on Glee (which I totally don't watch) and throw a tantrum:

[Thu Dec 02 16:25:42 2010] Ardipithecus says, 'no , actually ill make the decision'
[Thu Dec 02 16:25:45 2010] Ardipithecus says, 'fuck you VD'
[Thu Dec 02 16:25:47 2010] Ardipithecus says, 'AKE it'
[Thu Dec 02 16:25:52 2010] Ardipithecus says, 'HAVE IT'
[Thu Dec 02 16:26:00 2010] You say, 'well... i was going to have you two roll but that solves it too!'

Therefore benevolently and graciously yielding the camp to the VD group. THEN, you come here and post about your vendetta on how you're going to steal all of VD's camps:



Next, you attempt to steal the AC camp and then wonder why the GM rules against you and then suspends your ass when you just admitted to everyone yesterday what your motive was? Once again, you are a tactical genius... but that is like a notch above the Double-Pooping Maneuver you invented yesterday.

Some flaws with your argument:



That's not what AFK camping is, otherwise the guy camping Hadden for the FB earring would get his camp stolen every time. You may want to check this out:

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=19589

In case you can't find it, here you go, from Nilbog himself:

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=160877&postcount=9



Again, the enchanter made it to his corpse because he was trailing behind the VD group. Therefore, you needed their help to have your enchanter return so you could continue to fight, no? Or can a naked enchanter pacify/lull his way perfectly all the way there on his own? I dunno. I'm a ranger. I can't even make it past the first fucking kobold with my gear.

All I know is you're making a complete fool over yourself over one Freeti camp. That you gave to us when you nerdraged. At first it didn't sit right with me that it went down the way it did as I read it, but now that you're comparing yourself to Jesus and all sorts of insane shit like that... I'm just going to let your thread here speak for itself. Dick move in Freeti? Perhaps. I wasn't there, I'm not going to armchair quarterback this one. I would like to believe VD wouldn't have moved in had there been a compelling reason to believe you had control of the camp and were not just trying to "claim it while waiting for your enchanter "friend" to return".

Next time get a sock to poop in, did you not get that memo on this server yet? Then there would have been no question about whether you had control of the camp, this thread would not have been here, and at worst you're out a few socks. Don't use fishnet stockings though... lesson learned on that one, let me tell you.

The only good that has come from this entire situation is that synchronized group shitting has been banned in our guild.

I started to read this....and then I was like....

This guy wasn't even there.

Then I lol'd.

[Appaullo]

"LOLed"? Or "Cried some more"?

:eek:

Appaullo

[Kavanah]

Has anyone seen my keys? No?... okay how bout my wallet?

[Uthgaard]

Has anyone seen my keys? No?... okay how bout my wallet?

I banned them. Sorry, I was aiming for someone else.

[Kavanah]

I banned them. Sorry, I was aiming for someone else.

It's a scrubs quote from Turk!

[Uthgaard]

And I thought I'd seen all the good ones. Link or it didnt happen.

[YendorLootmonkey]

I started to read this....and then I was like....

This guy wasn't even there.

Then I dodged all the points made with quotes to back them up.

[Kavanah]

And I thought I'd seen all the good ones. Link or it didnt happen.

http://www.tvfanatic.com/quotes/shows/scrubs/episodes/my-best-friends-mistake/

[Kavanah]

http://www.tvfanatic.com/quotes/shows/scrubs/episodes/my-best-friends-mistake/

Laverne: I've seen this before. Gauze, sponges...some young surgeon left something in this man.
J.D.: Noo. No. I know the guy that closed, he'd never be that careless.
Turk: 'Kay, uh... Excuse me, sorry; has anyone seen my keys? No? Okay, how about my wallet? Anyone?

In this episode of Disc 1 Season 1 "My Best Friend's Mistake" JD thinks Turk's closing for the first time went wrong and that Turk made a mistake on a patient. By the end of the show JD finds a shocking revelation!

[Uberom]

Uberom, not tryina flame or anything, but your story brings a certain quote to my mind..

"You are in more dire need of a blowjob than any white man in history."
-Adrian Cronauer

Movie? I want to see....

[Mee123]

You've never seen Good Morning, Vietnam? Great Robin Williams movie but sad :|

[Dac321]

Cool story bro. Except for all the details you're leaving out.

There was never any decision rendered in the efreeti camp. You raged off and gave it up voluntarily. Just goes to show that some people place a higher value on a reason to cry than the camp they're crying about.

Perpetual victim.

this

[t0lkien]

For what it's worth, I think this entire episode has been bad form from the GM, and horrible form from these guilds (I have to stop myself from judging people just because they're tagged now; I have no idea what I will do when I hit 50 and want to raid, it seems there is no alternative to utter douchebaggery atm).

However... here's the thing: noone owes us anything on this server. The GMs and the Devs are doing it all for free. If they want to run a douchbag dictatorship (not saying they are, this is hyperbole), they can. We are guests here.

So, in the end, all there is to do is to suck it up and continue, or leave. We do not have any claim to anything, least of all our characters which live on their servers.

BTW, this has been a really instructive episode for me as a dev myself. Players pay not just to play, but to have rights to a certain type of play. I didn't understand this before; I do now.

[Ongbak]

http://www.topfatlosstrainer.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/07/ufc-workout-for-a-super-bad-body/UFC-Super-Bad-Workout.jpg

[Omnimorph]

erm... anyone decided to put themselves in the gm's position for this? OP is ranting the gm did the half-assed thing and said roll for the spawn but... there's really not much more you can do when it's a he said she said situation. The reason the gm said roll it was because there was no deciding factor that could say who was entitled to the camp.

Also claiming that the only reason the ench could make it back to the spawn was because of the VD group clearing is moot. Think about a raid scenario, only reason a guild could pull CT was because the other guild cleared for them? doesn't mean the original guild have any claim to anything.

If i were the gm i would have banned everyone in the zone... just cause i can!

And the only thing i've concluded from this thread is that the OP is narrow minded (albeit very entertaining). Seems completely immovable on any of his supposed arguments and viewpoints. If you can seriously validate KSing someone completely unrelated to an incident to yourself, and then try to validate it to others... you're probably a psychopath.

[MoonlightStoner]

I don't see why every r&f post about a specific guild or a specific person gets turned around into an all out QQ fest over the gm's, they don't get paid to do their job, they want to play just like you do, except they have to log on and help people, that's the job they're tasked with, they however are not entitled to please you 24-7 they aren't your in-game herum? idk how to spell that lol they get both sides from both stories, it's not their fault your bi-polarity in game has got the best of you, sure when something happens in game I dont like, i'm not pleased, but I dont hop onto the forums and basically just ask everyone to laugh at your stupidity, Don't blame the GM's/admins i dont care if they're 100% of an entire guild and it's only GM's in that guild, just stfu and tough it out, you should've stayed in your camp proving to hobby that you were more than willing to hold it with just you two, even despite the little bump in the road, and i'm sure the verdict would've been a lot different.....as far as you blatantly knowing and trying to ks AC, you deserved it rofl

[ownrage]

Well said. I tried to keep it legit and tell a truthful story the entire time, but lies and deceit defeated me. But isn't that a common theme in today's world? Liars and cheaters get ahead? Lol.

Whatever. My account is suspended and I'm bored. Time to roll a Monk. Wonder what hes going to be used for......


I think someone's asking to be IP perma-banned...QQ some more bud.

You've made a fool of yourself thoroughly...

[JackFlash]

I lol'd where the OP tells the guild leader of VD to GTFO of his thread.....

thread delivers!

[Nakara]

dumb shit

with this attitude it would make more sense to just not have GMs at all then

[Jenithia]

What's the deal with you and the word "baddie"?

[Uberom]

What's the deal with you and the word "baddie"?

I'm addicted. I can't fucking help it.

[Uberom]

I don't see why every r&f post about a specific guild or a specific person gets turned around into an all out QQ fest over the gm's, they don't get paid to do their job, they want to play just like you do, except they have to log on and help people, that's the job they're tasked with, they however are not entitled to please you 24-7 they aren't your in-game herum? idk how to spell that lol they get both sides from both stories, it's not their fault your bi-polarity in game has got the best of you, sure when something happens in game I dont like, i'm not pleased, but I dont hop onto the forums and basically just ask everyone to laugh at your stupidity, Don't blame the GM's/admins i dont care if they're 100% of an entire guild and it's only GM's in that guild, just stfu and tough it out, you should've stayed in your camp proving to hobby that you were more than willing to hold it with just you two, even despite the little bump in the road, and i'm sure the verdict would've been a lot different.....as far as you blatantly knowing and trying to ks AC, you deserved it rofl

It's spelled 'Harem'. Harems dealt with sex, so I have no clue what context your trying to put that in. Wrong word for the occasion.

Just by reading your post, you've shown that you didn't read the entirety of mine, because your proposing ideas that I already disqualified from the argument. Please read the entire story before you comment on points that aren't of any consequence.

I don't see how my "bipolarity" caused a group of 6 people to fight their way from zone-in to efreeti spawn, while being told in /ooc that its camped, with the intentions of stealing the camp.

If I do have these mind control powers...

/bipolarity on

Get the fuck off my thread.....

[Grod]

I mistakenly joined a group with this mage and his guildmates (Dozekar) and what a train wreck. He kept trying to levitate over the lava to get to the bottom of the ramp in the death beetle room but would summon his pet before going through and agroing everything along the way because he couldn't control his pet pathing which is perfectly fine except he KEPT DOING THE SAME THING. Complained in group about pet pathing, we told him to just run up to us and summon after the lava (mobs were cleared) but somehow he kept agroing trains of kobolds and resummoning his pet each time. After waiting a good 15 minutes for him to figure out how to get to us it just went downhill from there as he constantly broke my mezzes (probably why his enchanter friend was dead in the original story), wouldn't malo the mob for charm since he insisted I shouldn't use a charmed pet since it drained the cleric's mana (which was happening because of his constant mez breaks).

Anyhow he ends up agroing the side with his pet and I don't have a charmed pet at this time due to him insisting on killing the imp I had been using for a pet and so I mez one with the intention of charming the second one, the warrior was just taunting so he breaks the mez on the first target, I mez the 2nd target and he switches targets and breaks that mez too. All the while I'm getting hit now from mez agro and the Warrior is getting hit from taunting so the cleric is getting low mana and I'm going low mana while he is yelling in group to leave both mobs alone so his pet can solo them which we have to do because he won't let me mez or do anything (he broke 5 mezzes on that pull alone as we kept arguing and even with the entire group telling him to back off he kept breaking the mezzes insisting on letting his pet solo). At this point he gates out, leaves myself, the cleric and Warrior to die and leaves the group blaming me for the wipe calling me a noob enchanter. We had to struggle with a corpse recovery and he didn't even offer to help HIS OWN GUILDMATES to recover their corpses in a wipe he caused 100%. The Cleric and Warrior were both calling this idiot a noob and after about 15-20 minutes of the group struggling to get back there naked (I wasn't bound there so the cleric was trying to get there to pull my corpse to res) he asks the warrior if he got his corpse yet and when the warrior tells him no he doesn't respond. No offer to help even his own guildmates with a corpse recovery he caused. Suffice it to say, he is the only person on the server on my ignore list and this happened only few days ago.

Wasn't going to post it but having saw the 20+ pages of drama this guy caused with you guys, figured I'd add my story about him to the thread as it seems to be a common theme with this guy. Basically, for everyone else, stay away from him if you couldn't tell already by his posts and responses.

[Swishahouse]

All these wall-o-texts are total bullshit.

[vitalious]

I generally find that when people accuse you of something, they are guilty of it themselves. Cheating on a loved one, training in game, calling others gay, and in this case, calling people baddies. Who's the baddie here?

[thefloydian]

Most martyrs die for what they believe in. Case in point:

JFK
Jesus
MLK Jr.

:confused:

[Uberom]

I mistakenly joined a group with this mage and his guildmates (Dozekar) and what a train wreck. He kept trying to levitate over the lava to get to the bottom of the ramp in the death beetle room but would summon his pet before going through and agroing everything along the way because he couldn't control his pet pathing which is perfectly fine except he KEPT DOING THE SAME THING. Complained in group about pet pathing, we told him to just run up to us and summon after the lava (mobs were cleared) but somehow he kept agroing trains of kobolds and resummoning his pet each time. After waiting a good 15 minutes for him to figure out how to get to us it just went downhill from there as he constantly broke my mezzes (probably why his enchanter friend was dead in the original story), wouldn't malo the mob for charm since he insisted I shouldn't use a charmed pet since it drained the cleric's mana (which was happening because of his constant mez breaks).

Anyhow he ends up agroing the side with his pet and I don't have a charmed pet at this time due to him insisting on killing the imp I had been using for a pet and so I mez one with the intention of charming the second one, the warrior was just taunting so he breaks the mez on the first target, I mez the 2nd target and he switches targets and breaks that mez too. All the while I'm getting hit now from mez agro and the Warrior is getting hit from taunting so the cleric is getting low mana and I'm going low mana while he is yelling in group to leave both mobs alone so his pet can solo them which we have to do because he won't let me mez or do anything (he broke 5 mezzes on that pull alone as we kept arguing and even with the entire group telling him to back off he kept breaking the mezzes insisting on letting his pet solo). At this point he gates out, leaves myself, the cleric and Warrior to die and leaves the group blaming me for the wipe calling me a noob enchanter. We had to struggle with a corpse recovery and he didn't even offer to help HIS OWN GUILDMATES to recover their corpses in a wipe he caused 100%. The Cleric and Warrior were both calling this idiot a noob and after about 15-20 minutes of the group struggling to get back there naked (I wasn't bound there so the cleric was trying to get there to pull my corpse to res) he asks the warrior if he got his corpse yet and when the warrior tells him no he doesn't respond. No offer to help even his own guildmates with a corpse recovery he caused. Suffice it to say, he is the only person on the server on my ignore list and this happened only few days ago.

Wasn't going to post it but having saw the 20+ pages of drama this guy caused with you guys, figured I'd add my story about him to the thread as it seems to be a common theme with this guy. Basically, for everyone else, stay away from him if you couldn't tell already by his posts and responses.

Lets talk about humor.

Grod fails in a group of 4, blames it on me.

Hours later, me and my ENC friend go to efreeti, and we duo our way up to the camp. Lo and behold, who's corpse is waiting out in front of the imps? GROD.

ROFLROFLROFL.

So I was like, hey, buddy ENC of mine. Remember that terrible ENC I was telling you about??? Well, thats him! Right there lying all dead and noobish on the ground in front of efreeti room.

An hour later we got GEBs.

Fucking baddies will be bad.

[Lazortag]

Lets talk about humor.

Grod fails in a group of 4, blames it on me.

Hours later, me and my ENC friend go to efreeti, and we duo our way up to the camp. Lo and behold, who's corpse is waiting out in front of the imps? GROD.

ROFLROFLROFL.

So I was like, hey, buddy ENC of mine. Remember that terrible ENC I was telling you about??? Well, thats him! Right there lying all dead and noobish on the ground in front of efreeti room.

An hour later we got GEBs.

Fucking baddies will be bad.

You did such a good job of responding to Grod's post there.

[Lazortag]

Especially the part about not helping your own guildmates. Like, seriously? That's just low.

[Omnimorph]

Quite a few enchanters would fail in a group with a retarded mage who doesn't have a clue how to work in a group... but yeah, you're a total baddie.

[Kassel]

Ubermom is just terrible all around.

[mille233]

my grandpa underwent great suffering and death for a cause through devotion to some object (smoking cigarettes)....does that mean hes a martyr too?

[Uberom]

Quite a few enchanters would fail in a group with a retarded mage who doesn't have a clue how to work in a group... but yeah, you're a total baddie.

Wierd. I wonder how my duo group, which consists of just me and another Enchanter (one with skills), managed to successfully camp Efreeti.

These are strange occurrences.

[Nakara]

Wierd. I wonder how my duo group, which consists of just me and another Enchanter (one with skills), managed to successfully camp Efreeti.

These are strange occurrences.

well according to your other thread the enchanter died and you lost the camp sooooooo

[YendorLootmonkey]

well according to your other thread the enchanter died and you lost the camp sooooooo

LOL even Nakara turned on you, dude.

[Grod]

Wierd. I wonder how my duo group, which consists of just me and another Enchanter (one with skills), managed to successfully camp Efreeti.

These are strange occurrences.

First off, there's probably over 20 Enchanters that have or are capable of duoing the Efreeti on this server. I've already done it and I've been 50 less then a week. You're acting like it's some huge accomplishment or something but I guess you have to try to get your supposed victories where you can get them since your list of "accomplishments" is probably pretty small.

Secondly, and much more importantly, you didn't even successfully duo the spawn because as you stated the enchanter was DEAD hence why the post was made in the first place so bragging about it is retarded because you couldn't even do it by your own admission.

Thirdly, none of that negates the fact you've made a complete ass out of yourself and embarrassed yourself on the forums. You've permanently hurt your reputation with your 20+ pages of bullshit about the incident with VD. Even if they were wrong, you've proven yourself to be such an idiot and a dillwad that no one is going to take your side regardless for fear of being outcasted and grouped in with the retard brigade.

Let's see,

1) You failed to duo the efreeti with an enchanter.
2) You caused a wipe in the group I was in with you then abandoned your OWN guild to do a corpse recovery on their own.
3) You got publicly rejected from the guild you applied to.

The funniest part about all of this? You are so god damn oblivious to everything going on that you fail to realize how badly you've embarrassed yourself and still think you are winning the "argument". The only thing this thread has done for you is let hundreds of other people know to avoid you because you're obviously a shitty player with a mental defect that will blame everyone else for his own shortcomings in a rude manner. Guess the whole server is filled with "baddies, bro".

[Uberom]

First off, there's probably over 20 Enchanters that have or are capable of duoing the Efreeti on this server. I've already done it and I've been 50 less then a week. You're acting like it's some huge accomplishment or something but I guess you have to try to get your supposed victories where you can get them since your list of "accomplishments" is probably pretty small.

Secondly, and much more importantly, you didn't even successfully duo the spawn because as you stated the enchanter was DEAD hence why the post was made in the first place so bragging about it is retarded because you couldn't even do it by your own admission.

Thirdly, none of that negates the fact you've made a complete ass out of yourself and embarrassed yourself on the forums. You've permanently hurt your reputation with your 20+ pages of bullshit about the incident with VD. Even if they were wrong, you've proven yourself to be such an idiot and a dillwad that no one is going to take your side regardless for fear of being outcasted and grouped in with the retard brigade.

Let's see,

1) You failed to duo the efreeti with an enchanter.
2) You caused a wipe in the group I was in with you then abandoned your OWN guild to do a corpse recovery on their own.
3) You got publicly rejected from the guild you applied to.

The funniest part about all of this? You are so god damn oblivious to everything going on that you fail to realize how badly you've embarrassed yourself and still think you are winning the "argument". The only thing this thread has done for you is let hundreds of other people know to avoid you because you're obviously a shitty player with a mental defect that will blame everyone else for his own shortcomings in a rude manner. Guess the whole server is filled with "baddies, bro".

Killed Djarn.

Chanter died cuz he was poopin', bro.

We laughed at your corpse for hours. Figured you weren't coming to get if for awhile, being a raging baddy.

[Nakara]

[QUOTE=Grod;186749]
2) You caused a wipe in the group I was in with you then abandoned your OWN guild to do a corpse recovery on their own.
/QUOTE]

got anything to say for yourself uberom? you seem to be conveniently ignoring this point in every post

[Nakara]

wow awesome quote job

[Grod]

Killed Djarn.

Chanter died cuz he was poopin', bro.

We laughed at your corpse for hours. Figured you weren't coming to get if for awhile, being a raging baddy.

Or maybe I didn't get it because there was nothing on it except a throwaway item. It's funny you stared at it for hours (contradicting your own story about how long you were there) and yet still failed to realize that the corpse was naked.

Secondly, if your enchanter was dumb enough to AFK without bothering to time the respawn it's his own fault for dying but the fact you admitted BOTH of you went afk at the same time in a 2 man group is just beyond retarded. You're saying it like it makes the wipe better (not our fault we were afk) when it actually makes you look worse.

[Crone]

Uberom. Me and my buddy have a mage/shaman setup, and I was curious if you think this would work without the mez? We want to get down to Efreeti and camp it!

[Uberom]

Uberom. Me and my buddy have a mage/shaman setup, and I was curious if you think this would work without the mez? We want to get down to Efreeti and camp it!

Honestly, I've never duoed with a shaman before. The only reason a Chanter/Mage can do the camp is because the charmed Imps can take some serious damage before dying. Our imp tanked efreeti the whole fight. They both went down almost the same time.

Sorry I can't give you any guidance on this. I wouldn't try it with that combo, though.

[Uberom]

Or maybe I didn't get it because there was nothing on it except a throwaway item. It's funny you stared at it for hours (contradicting your own story about how long you were there) and yet still failed to realize that the corpse was naked.

Secondly, if your enchanter was dumb enough to AFK without bothering to time the respawn it's his own fault for dying but the fact you admitted BOTH of you went afk at the same time in a 2 man group is just beyond retarded. You're saying it like it makes the wipe better (not our fault we were afk) when it actually makes you look worse.

It was in air elemental form.

We were there for hours. Read the story correctly.

We didn't wipe. He died. I was alive the entire time.

The spawns were timed. He just was in the wrong spot and got aggro by a roamer. Was very close.

[Crone]

Aww man, alright. Thanks man. Was hoping to get a nice cash cow rolling in. :(

Honestly, I've never duoed with a shaman before. The only reason a Chanter/Mage can do the camp is because the charmed Imps can take some serious damage before dying. Our imp tanked efreeti the whole fight. They both went down almost the same time.

Sorry I can't give you any guidance on this. I wouldn't try it with that combo, though.

[Uberom]

Aww man, alright. Thanks man. Was hoping to get a nice cash cow rolling in. :(

If you do go, make sure you bring a bunch of people. If you don't have a lot of people, a group will come steal your spawn. Then if you petition, you guys will have to /random 100 to get it back.

[Bubbles]

Uberom. Me and my buddy have a mage/shaman setup, and I was curious if you think this would work without the mez? We want to get down to Efreeti and camp it!

Imps are a royal pain to slow, and you'd have 0 ability to get the mobs off of the shaman even if you were successful slowing, outside of spamming root.

I've seen shaman who were convinced their god-given reason to be at efreeti was to slow mobs die repeatedly.. even in full groups. also without a complete healer your mage is basically going to have to chain pet... which wipes aggro and gets mobs ticked at the shaman all over again.

Factor in the idea that neither of you have any real form of mana regen, it'd be one helluva break in. Oh, and you can't lull either, so you're really in for one heckuva fight.

If you tossed in a necro, at least you'd get bonus heals, one class with mana regen, an added pet for dps, and ghetto mes. We used to break and hold freeti with 2 necros and a druid all the time, altho it was more for the thrill of it than the practicality of it. You simply can't beat ENC/CLR for the slow safe method, or ENC/MAG for the faster, less-safe method. Tbh even an ENC / NEC would be a better combo than shm/mag.

[Bubbles]

Aww man, alright. Thanks man. Was hoping to get a nice cash cow rolling in. :(

p.s. -- where in the pages of drivel on this situation did you get the brainstorm that the p1999 efreeti camp was:

a. ) easy to break and hold

b. ) rarely contested

and

c. ) rarely camped, to the point it'd be a consistent 'cash cow' for anyone? ;)

[KilyenaMage]

I quit after I got a 1 month ban for accidentally training the crushbone zoneline.

Guy sends me a tell saying "im friends with Uuthgard, enjoy your ban!"
Next thing I know I'm booted to char select and it says I've been suspended.

What a JOKE of a server lmao -- more corrupt than TZ/VZ ever was. If GMs are banning people cuz they "trained" their friends, I can only imagine the end-game favoritism that's probably going on.

OH BTW, my lvl 25 Rogue died in the train also -- clearly it was an "intentional" train lmao.

[Lazortag]

I quit after I got a 1 month ban for accidentally training the crushbone zoneline.

Guy sends me a tell saying "im friends with Uuthgard, enjoy your ban!"
Next thing I know I'm booted to char select and it says I've been suspended.

What a JOKE of a server lmao -- more corrupt than TZ/VZ ever was. If GMs are banning people cuz they "trained" their friends, I can only imagine the end-game favoritism that's probably going on.

OH BTW, my lvl 25 Rogue died in the train also -- clearly it was an "intentional" train lmao.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=25

[KilyenaMage]

Probably because most of them only log on to raid, and you meet the farmers/random groups. Most times i've seen they run around probably talking on vent so they don't really type (which can be seen as asshole-ish to some)

idk... I've just never had any bad experiences, of course everyones gonna have some bad eggs, can't win em' all, this isn't pokemon!

Pretty sure that's just cuz you're fine as hell,

[KilyenaMage]

http://www.project1999.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=25

Those are totally unrelated issues -- and how do you have access to other people's private petition pages?

[KilyenaMage]

^

"Posts created here are only viewable by the post creator and the server staff. Use this forum to petition offline if necessary for stuck characters or any other petition type issues. Also use this forum to post any exploits so they are not open to the public for abuse."


!??!?!?

[thefloydian]

And I SERIOUSLY doubt anyone else would have done anything different. If you roll up on a person struggling with a camp and the first words out of their mouth are insults and petitions - how would you respond? "oh let us rez your poor ENC kind sir and we'll leave."

Hell no - you would have been provoked into doing exactly what I did.

I'm guessing there are plenty of people who wouldn't have.

[Lazortag]

Those are totally unrelated issues -- and how do you have access to other people's private petition pages?

^

"Posts created here are only viewable by the post creator and the server staff. Use this forum to petition offline if necessary for stuck characters or any other petition type issues. Also use this forum to post any exploits so they are not open to the public for abuse."


!??!?!?

Ban disputes go in petitions/exploits also. If you were really banned for some unjust reason you can go there and have your case reviewed, provided you don't act like a douche about it.

Also, not only do I have access to your private petition forum, I also have access to what's inside your computer: click here (file:///C:/)

[YendorLootmonkey]

If you do go, make sure you don't take a shit at the same time as your duo partner.

Actual lesson learned from all this BS.

[Uberom]

Actual lesson learned from all this BS.

Lootbitch, didn't I tell you 10 posts ago to GTFO off my thread?

Or did Hobby tell you to /random for it?

To that KylinMage person. Damn I feel for you! I had a very similar situation happen to my friends druid. They were powerleveling in Unrest, and some twat little guy runs up stairs and complains that they are taking all the mobs. My druid friend told them, too bad, we were here way before you. So the little baddie (probably a VD alt) petitioned and got Uthgaard to show up. Uthgaard tells druid to share the camp. My friend is pissed, but has to concede to the banhammar. Druid pulls the room closest to him, leaving the rest of the hallway untouched. Uthgaard takes this as a sign of treason, and suspends him. My friend went to the forums and explained everything, and how extremely unreasonable it was, and asked for some sort of negotiation. His request was never even acknowledged. He continued to copy paste his request and submit. Still no answer. Finally they just banned him, I guess for not letting it go.

The difference in your situation Kylie, though it is still pretty shitty, is this druid was 37 with well over 15k gear on him. Your 25 rogue wouldn't take that long to re-level. But still, it proves the point I've been making all along. This server is heavily in favor of certain guilds and people.

We were discussing MMOs in another thread and how soft they've gone. Honestly, this version of EQ is almost as care bear, if not more, than WoW is. And worse, its care bear only to a certain group of people. Everyone else just gets the banhammar for trying to speak out.

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/8436/silencedomslaglav.jpg

[Rangerous]

Lootbitch, didn't I tell you 10 posts ago to GTFO off my thread?

Or did Hobby tell you to /random for it?

To that KylinMage person. Damn I feel for you! I had a very similar situation happen to my friends druid. They were powerleveling in Unrest, and some twat little guy runs up stairs and complains that they are taking all the mobs. My druid friend told them, too bad, we were here way before you. So the little baddie (probably a VD alt) petitioned and got Uthgaard to show up. Uthgaard tells druid to share the camp. My friend is pissed, but has to concede to the banhammar. Druid pulls the room closest to him, leaving the rest of the hallway untouched. Uthgaard takes this as a sign of treason, and suspends him. My friend went to the forums and explained everything, and how extremely unreasonable it was, and asked for some sort of negotiation. His request was never even acknowledged. He continued to copy paste his request and submit. Still no answer. Finally they just banned him, I guess for not letting it go.

The difference in your situation Kylie, though it is still pretty shitty, is this druid was 37 with well over 15k gear on him. Your 25 rogue wouldn't take that long to re-level. But still, it proves the point I've been making all along. This server is heavily in favor of certain guilds and people.

We were discussing MMOs in another thread and how soft they've gone. Honestly, this version of EQ is almost as care bear, if not more, than WoW is. And worse, its care bear only to a certain group of people. Everyone else just gets the banhammar for trying to speak out.

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/8436/silencedomslaglav.jpg

I bet your "friend" *winkwink* was pretty devastated

[Ihealyou]

This a 13 page thread where you've been able to voice your opinions and views about what happened and the server in general, and you're complaining about being silenced?

k.

[Messianic]

I quit after I got a 1 month ban

I wish you'd quit the forums while you're at it, since you contribute only inane comments and rants

[Lazortag]

Those are totally unrelated issues -- and how do you have access to other people's private petition pages?

Does anyone else not think this is gold?? I linked to the petitions/exploits forum and he assumed that meant I could see his petitions. rofl.

[Uberom]

I bet your "friend" *winkwink* was pretty devastated

Daradan, level 3 Ranger. Post # 1.

Nice contribution to the thread.

[Rangerous]

Daradan, level 3 Ranger. Post # 1.

Nice contribution to the thread.

Ad hominem. So basically, instead of refuting the joke I made, you chose to try and divert attention to my post count and level. Normally, this would indicate that I called it right that you, were in fact, the "friend" who had a druid banned. If this is true, that would indicate a pattern of behavior that results in being either banned, or shunned to the point of having to reroll. Just to save us all some trouble in the future, you might as well let us know what your your next toon's class and name will be.

[Ihealyou]

Ad hominem. So basically, instead of refuting the joke I made, you chose to try and divert attention to my post count and level. Normally, this would indicate that I called it right that you, were in fact, the "friend" who had a druid banned. If this is true, that would indicate a pattern of behavior that results in being either banned, or shunned to the point of having to reroll. Just to save us all some trouble in the future, you might as well let us know what your your next toon's class and name will be.

Since we're busting out the fallacies here, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy_fallacy

[Uberom]

1. I would never roll a Druid. That druid was my friend, not me.

2. You haven't been on the server long, and therefore have no credibility, which is what I called into question.

3. Why the fuck would I alert a level 3 what class/name I'm going to roll and/or reroll. Lol. You apparently think I'm dependent on the server to level. I soloed to 50.

4. That link, Uuur , is absolutely horrible for any trained logician. I can possibly scan a page from my textbook on some of the different logical fallacies (there are quite a few), if you people are really interested in knowledge.

[Rangerous]

1. I would never roll a Druid. That druid was my friend, not me.

2. You haven't been on the server long, and therefore have no credibility, which is what I called into question.

3. Why the fuck would I alert a level 3 what class/name I'm going to roll and/or reroll. Lol. You apparently think I'm dependent on the server to level. I soloed to 50.

4. That link, Uuur , is absolutely horrible for any trained logician. I can possibly scan a page from my textbook on some of the different logical fallacies (there are quite a few), if you people are really interested in knowledge.

A slam about credibility, coming from you, is R&F gold.

[Winobot]

He's a young logician, bess be careful ~

[korrowan]

This guy seriously makes my day with his idiocy. I wonder if he still thinks people care about him.

[Uberom]

He's a young logician, bess be careful ~

Probably the only witty thing anyone has presented to me thus far. I actually lol'd.

[Uberom]

This guy seriously makes my day with his idiocy. I wonder if he still thinks people care about him.

Idiocy? I destroyed the whole server in this thread. Lol, you kids are half illiterate. Please, go back to school.

[RapidScotch]

You sure too whine alot for 'destroying' people. What exactly do you think you've won out of all this? I'm really curious...

[RapidScotch]

Sure do*, excuse me, before a grammar nazi spots me. :P

[Uberom]

You sure too whine alot for 'destroying' people. What exactly do you think you've won out of all this? I'm really curious...

Pride.

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/9946/loltv.jpg

It's something I don't lose.

[Rangerous]

Pride.

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/9946/loltv.jpg

It's something I don't lose.

You so look like you do gay p0rn

[Uberom]

You so look like you do gay p0rn

ROFLMAO!

Please keep your fantasies to yourself. I'm sorry I look like a fucking model citizen.

[Uberom]

Just ask RapidScotch. She is fapping to my pic right now.

[RapidScotch]

You look like a douchebag actually. Nice try though.

[Shannacore]

You so look like you do gay p0rn

You look like a douchebag actually. Nice try though.


Both of these statements are accurate

[KilyenaMage]

Ban disputes go in petitions/exploits also. If you were really banned for some unjust reason you can go there and have your case reviewed, provided you don't act like a douche about it.

Also, not only do I have access to your private petition forum, I also have access to what's inside your computer: click here (file:///C:/)

You're a funny guy...really.

The ban was a long time ago - 6 months to a year. I guess SUSPENSION would be more accurate as it was only a 1 month.

The GM asked me my side of the story -- I was in the middle of sending a tell in APOLOGY to the person I trained and was unable to respond to the GM IMMEDIATELY so he just banned me.

Additionally the douchebag whom I was apologizing to (this was before the GM ever contacted me ... I was just trying to cover my own ass) told the GM I never sent a tell apologizing. LMAO.

What douchebag - I think I'll log in later tonight and train him repeatedly now that I think about it.

[KilyenaMage]

I wish you'd quit the forums while you're at it, since you contribute only inane comments and rants

LMAO You again!?!?

I haven't posted on here in literally MONTHS. Why you still on my nuts bro!?!?

[KilyenaMage]

Sure do*, excuse me, before a grammar nazi spots me. :P

Pride.

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/9946/loltv.jpg

It's something I don't lose.


^
Grammar Nazi standing at attention.

[Roofie]

as it is only to achieve my goal of making people understand what exactly happened.

Hmm I could have thought you were trying to prove to everyone you're an idiot. :D



And we all know what happened..

[Uberom]

^
Grammar Nazi standing at attention.

ROFL.

Damn that made me proud.

How do you know about the position of attention?

(Which, btw, I wasn't in the POA. I was actually in the middle of a dumbell workout and my buddies were snapping pictures of the gym. I guess I got a complimentary photo oppurtunity for the Misses.)

[Uberom]

Both of these statements are accurate

If by accurate you mean... "out of your league" , then yes.

[Uberom]

You look like a douchebag actually. Nice try though.

Oh, forgot, my super charm doesn't work on lesbians....

back to the drawing board for me then.....

[YendorLootmonkey]

Idiocy? I destroyed the whole server in this thread. Lol, you kids are half illiterate. Please, go back to school.

The only thing you destroyed in this thread is your credibility and reputation. :) Feel free to flail your arms around and tell me to GTFO out of "your thread" again, though!

[Uberom]

The only thing you destroyed in this thread is your credibility and reputation. :) Feel free to flail your arms around and tell me to GTFO out of "your thread" again, though!

Lol.

5k views.

I think my credibility should be the least of your worries.

[Theldios]

Lol.

5k views.

I think my credibility should be the least of your worries.

What credibility? 5k Views means 5k laughs at your stupid ass

[Ongbak]

Lol.

5k views.

I think my credibility should be the least of your worries.

lol look at tags

[KilyenaMage]

GTFO out of "your thread" again, though!


GTFO actually means Get The Fuck Out - no need for the redundancy here.

[YendorLootmonkey]

GTFO actually means Get The Fuck Out - no need for the redundancy here.

Sorry, that was like my third internet flame ever... my adrenaline was pumping and I was all jittery when I typed that!!!!!!!!!!!

[Shannacore]

If by accurate you mean... "out of your league" , then yes.

"Both of these statements are out of your league"

:confused:

[Uberom]

"Both of these statements are out of your league"

:confused:

AM I BEING SOLICITED FOR NUDE PIX?

REPORTED.

[Ledzepp02]

(Which, btw, I wasn't in the POA. I was actually in the middle of a shakeweight workout and my buddies were snapping pictures of the after workout cooling squirt. I guess I got complimentary cab fairefor the lulz.)

fix'd =P

[Bodeanicus]

Pride.

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/9946/loltv.jpg

It's something I don't lose.

Uh, dudes who wear shirts that tight usually have boyfriends. Did anyone ask, and did you tell?

[Grod]

It's kind of funny watching the self destruction in action. First he posts something he thinks people will get behind him on and when they don't he starts acting like an idiot (I'm right, but all of you are too stubborn/stupid to admit it) which turns even more people against him and it just continues to get worse from there.

The more people turn on him and he realizes he can't win, he tries to abandon the "argument" and turns towards the "I don't care, I am cooler in real life then all of you" argument which also fails so he inevitably goes crazy and goes into full blown retard mode which will probably get him banned sooner rather then later as he knows his reputation is permanently tarnished so he just going to try to cause trouble now.

I almost feel bad for him~

[DevonG]

Fuck, dude. Totally.

I didn't have the internet for 1 week and I managed to miss the funniest self destruct sequence in history.

[Messianic]

LMAO You again!?!?

I haven't posted on here in literally MONTHS. Why you still on my nuts bro!?!?

You know better than anyone else that no one's "on your nuts," or probably ever will be - whatever you mean by that.

[Shannacore]

Oh he's banned? Lolol. How'd that happen?

[Messianic]

Oh he's banned? Lolol. How'd that happen?

He's a martyr against corruption


At least, that's what he probably thinks...

[Ledzepp02]

What, mah actions could probably get me banned? DON'T PHASE ME BRO!

[Mise]

Uberom kinda reminds me of this guy (http://video.yahoo.com/watch/5094747/13518114)