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eisley
01-31-2016, 09:15 PM
that canni was massively nerfed. any bets?

Rufio
01-31-2016, 09:18 PM
buffed, same mana return looks like, less damage.

eisley
01-31-2016, 09:23 PM
ITT: people not noticing

Dreenk317
02-01-2016, 12:25 AM
it got nerfed, canni 3 now does ~73 damage, instaed of 100, and returns ~35 mana instead of 50-60. That is a nerf, i would much rather lose the extra 27HP and gain the extra 27 mana, now i have to canni twice as much for same return of mana.

xaxis
02-01-2016, 12:42 AM
it got nerfed, canni 3 now does ~73 damage, instaed of 100, and returns ~35 mana instead of 50-60. That is a nerf, i would much rather lose the extra 27HP and gain the extra 27 mana, now i have to canni twice as much for same return of mana.

These numbers are a buff... 100/55=1.81 whereas 73/35=2.08 which is a better return.

Dreenk317
02-01-2016, 12:48 AM
These numbers are a buff... 100/55=1.81 whereas 73/35=2.08 which is a better return.

that is a better mana per hp return, yes, but not very much though. And it now takes much longer to get back to the same amount of mana, even if it is a slightly better return. You have to canni twice now to return ~70 mana, vs one canni to return ~60 mana (with canni 3). Taking you almost twice as long to canni to full, even if it costs you less hp to do so, this could be the difference between having time to canni and get that last heal/root/slow off and save the day, or watch your friends die as you canni dance in the background like a jabronie with your arms in the air like you just dont care.

Lojik
02-01-2016, 12:52 AM
Canni IV working just fine!

WTS Canni IV 100k

Trajor
02-01-2016, 01:04 AM
Canni IV needs to drop in WW

Dreenk317
02-01-2016, 03:26 AM
that is a better mana per hp return, yes, but not very much though. And it now takes much longer to get back to the same amount of mana, even if it is a slightly better return. You have to canni twice now to return ~70 mana, vs one canni to return ~60 mana (with canni 3). Taking you almost twice as long to canni to full, even if it costs you less hp to do so, this could be the difference between having time to canni and get that last heal/root/slow off and save the day, or watch your friends die as you canni dance in the background like a jabronie with your arms in the air like you just dont care.

i made the same mistake you did, assigned the wrong attribute to the wrong number. Its actuallly a worse return, it was 1 mana per 1.81 hp, it is now 1 mana per 2.08 hp. not the other way around.

Billatoras
02-01-2016, 06:14 AM
The first thing i noticed when i logged in since patch was this. There is something wrong with Cannibalize 3.

Its been a habit for me to pay attention always on mana ticks and it felt wrong immediately.

xaxis
02-01-2016, 08:39 AM
i made the same mistake you did, assigned the wrong attribute to the wrong number. Its actuallly a worse return, it was 1 mana per 1.81 hp, it is now 1 mana per 2.08 hp. not the other way around.

I'm with you now. Anyone have the numbers for Canni 4?

Malrubius
02-01-2016, 09:23 AM
I've been using canni2 anyway, since that ratio has always been better (even though I have to cast more). Once they fix the canni4 drops (maybe already? haven't checked.), then I'll switch to canni4.

That said, yeah, sounds like a bug with canni3.

Turp
02-01-2016, 09:42 AM
use 2 different canni spells and 1 clicky. canni click canni click. that gcd nerf overrides the canni nerf.

Malrubius
02-01-2016, 09:54 AM
use 2 different canni spells and 1 clicky. canni click canni click. that gcd nerf overrides the canni nerf.

Just curious, but how is this better than one canni spell and one clicky?

Kiwix
02-01-2016, 09:58 AM
Clicky gcd doesnt effect the last casted spell as that will have a recast time.

Man0warr
02-01-2016, 11:06 AM
You can do it with a single Canni spell if it's in your first slot with a clicky, don't need two.

Canni2 > Canni3 this whole time anyways.

Malrubius
02-01-2016, 11:47 AM
You can do it with a single Canni spell if it's in your first slot with a clicky, don't need two.

Canni2 > Canni3 this whole time anyways.

Okay, that's what I thought. I always have CanniX in the first slot and with insta-clicky I can spam it fast all day.

eisley
02-01-2016, 10:01 PM
word on the street is canni4 is unchanged, although i do not have it myself (cuz it was barely better throughput than properly spammed canni3 prior to nerf)

but now it seems canni4 plat value has increased a lot.

DevGrousis
02-02-2016, 01:56 AM
this could be the difference between having time to canni and get that last heal/root/slow off and save the day, or watch your friends die as you canni dance in the background like a jabronie with your arms in the air like you just dont care.

this just made me laugh so hard lol