Leatherfoot Bags

[Droog007]

Seen some conflicting information regarding when these went in. The wiki shows the haversack as "Velious content", but I know better than to trust that completely. Is there an official position on this? I did a little digging and found this:

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/dyn/items/Container.html

http://i.imgur.com/eQaPl8R.png

[Pokesan]

Celestial Essence?

[Daldaen]

When looking for the classicness of Tradeskill combines check a few things.

1. Does it exist in eqtraders.com Wayback Archives list of recipes

-These are often incomplete but if it's there, it's definitive proof it exists during that era. Pick a 2001 Wayback date. If it is not listed go to #2

2. Do any of the components in the recipe require components only available in later expansion.

3. When are the first postings about the item on allakhazam

4. What items are around its item ID on Lucy.


In this particular case, see #2.

http://www.eqtraders.com/items/show_item.php?item=1231&menustr=035000000000

Two of the sub-combines include Celestial Essence. This is only available in Luclin/PoP (Shadow Haven, Sanctus Seru and PoK). Therefore they are not classic.

[Droog007]

How do we know celestial solvent was unavailable prior to a certain date?

[Sorn]

Two of the sub-combines include Celestial Essence. This is only available in Luclin/PoP (Shadow Haven, Sanctus Seru and PoK). Therefore they are not classic.

I would have to test this out, but I believe Celestial Essence can be made in-game (part of the Coldain Velium Temper recipe). I'll go take a look in SS later for the Celestial Solvent.

Not sure about infused platinum thread. I know you cannot powder gems at the moment.

[Troxx]

First post on allakhazam was dated August 19, 2002.

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=14483

Not likely velious era.

[Droog007]

Yeah ... how are people making Velium Boning for their panther armor, etc. - without celestial essence?

[Droog007]

First post on allakhazam was dated August 19, 2002.

Not likely velious era.

Recipes had to be discovered, and then shared ... It's not as though the patch messages said: here, try this!

[Troxx]

Yeah ... how are people making Velium Boning for their panther armor, etc. - without celestial essence?

Blacksmithing (Trivial: 37)
Yield: Velium Boning x1
In Forge:
Item 1160.png 1 x Coldain Velium Temper - Crafted, Bought
Item 1035.png 1 x File - Crafted
Item 1138.png 1 x Small Brick of Velium - Crafted, Dropped

Recipes had to be discovered, and then shared ... It's not as though the patch messages said: here, try this!

You'd be amazed how much information was 'leaked' out by Verant/SoE back in the day. And i'm fairly certain there were programs (hacks) that could mine information from the server.

It's just not velious era man. Luclin at the earliest vs PoP.

[Seltius]

I don't think these were actually in game until Luclin or later the recipe was meant to be during Velious(at least rumored at the time) but the purification tablets and other stuff couldn't be combined at the time.


Look at the timeline and it might have been PoP because the earliest posts on Allakhazam is 2002.


Edit: Daldaen is correct I just saw his post above.

[Sorn]

Yeah ... how are people making Velium Boning for their panther armor, etc. - without celestial essence?

Why would you torture yourself by making the temper when you can just buy it (possibly for cheaper) O_o

[Daldaen]

How do we know celestial solvent was unavailable prior to a certain date?

Because of the vendors they are sold by.

Here is the EQLive list:

http://www.eqtraders.com/items/show_item.php?item=1618

All the "a spell research mule" NPC Vendors you see in classic city zones were added when they revamped the Research system in 2006 or so.

The 2 vendors in East Freeport you see selling them, are vendors added when Freeport was revamped for the Prophecy of Ro expansion, adding a huge number of TS Vendors.

The remaining NPCs are in Luclin zones (Bazaar, Sanctus, Katta, Shadow Haven, Fungus Grove) and Plane of Knowledge.

If you look at the wayback archive of this item: https://web.archive.org/web/20030814073516/http://www.eqtraders.com/items/show_item.php?item=1618
Again you will see the only vendors are in the Luclin zones and PoK that I listed above.

It was only purchase able in Luclin and PoP zones. Therefore it is only a Luclin/PoP item.

[Ele]

How do we know celestial solvent was unavailable prior to a certain date?

Earliest archive for the Celestial Solvent item page only shows Luclin vendors.
https://web.archive.org/web/20031011172342/http://www.eqtraders.com/items/show_item.php?item=1618

Celestial Solvent listed under Make Poison on EQTraders, only available from Luclin vendors.
https://web.archive.org/web/20020811062051/http://eqtraders.com/location/poison.htm

Snapshots before August 2002 (Luclin era) do not include any of the combines related to Celestial Solvents.
https://web.archive.org/web/20020802044207/http://eqtraders.com/secrets/recipes_tailoring_halfling.htm

edit: damnit Daldaen swooped in and classicPK'd me

[Droog007]

Looks good. thanks... Somehow it got past me that the velium temper was purchaseable. So... scratch "skill up tailoring" from the list.

[NarcolepticLTD]

Lame... the purification tablet combines do actually work currently too... got a stack of purified water heh. That solvent is the only thing missing on p99 (had a guildie check the CC vendor listed in the wiki after the last update).

[Thulack]

Dont feel Bad Droog. Dald killed my dream of making bags while i was in the process of leveling up my halfling druids tailoring. It was a good day for him. Got to not only crush my dreams but those of my Halfling druid who he despises.

[Droog007]

Lame... the purification tablet combines do actually work currently too... got a stack of purified water heh. That solvent is the only thing missing on p99 (had a guildie check the CC vendor listed in the wiki after the last update).

You'd also still have to powder a Blue Diamond though, right? I think someone said that combine doesn't work - which suggests you *can* buy jars of acid, at least.
So close, yet so far...

[Droog007]

Enter custom content?

Dun - dun - DUNNNNNNN!!! :eek:

[Daldaen]

Dont feel Bad Droog. Dald killed my dream of making bags while i was in the process of leveling up my halfling druids tailoring. It was a good day for him. Got to not only crush my dreams but those of my Halfling druid who he despises.

Worst Druid on the server.