8th Coldain Ring...the struggle.

[dubstepfan]

Hello!

As many of you know, the 8th Coldain ring is a huge wall for many players, well as of today I'm officially fed up with this quest, as many others have been for months.

Today I won the roll on the 8th Coldain ring hand in, but because my guild is so casual, I didn't have the force on hand and set up to take down the ring. A member of Azure Guard offered to help me and he was awesome, but there were at least 10 Awakened members there, all on their alt monks, that basically bullied me out of my roll because apparently their 4th alt is more important than a main who legitly won the roll.

Anyway, now that the steam is gone. My request is that Gloradin Coldheart have her respawn timer greatly reduced so we can clear out this backlog of players that are aiming for this ring. I have spoken to several players that have been trying for this for at least a month or longer, and while we have a civilized way to handle it with the roll, schedule conflicts and bad rolls make it nearly impossible for those players to ever obtain this ring.

Again, today was a great example. Because so many end game players are rolling alts and PLing them up to end game quickly, a casual player, that should have had the right to his winning roll got pushed aside because a guild had nothing better to do, lost probably his only chance any time in the near future to get this done.

And before people say "Lowering the respawn time isn't classic!" This server isn't classic, it's "like classic." There are a lot of subtle changes on this server that don't line up with classic, so making one to improve the flow of the server and reduce tension between players would be greatly welcome.

I'm sure there will be a lot of flames to follow because trolls are everywhere, but I'm hoping those that have shared this pain will follow suit and support this request.

[mr_jon3s]

So why didn't you just do it?? Why would you let someone bully you out of something that you need for your main??

[Pokesan]

typical BDA bullshit.

[Sallan]

Hello!

As many of you know, the 8th Coldain ring is a huge wall for many players, well as of today I'm officially fed up with this quest, as many others have been for months.

Today I won the roll on the 8th Coldain ring hand in, but because my guild is so casual, I didn't have the force on hand and set up to take down the ring. A member of Azure Guard offered to help me and he was awesome, but there were at least 10 Awakened members there, all on their alt monks, that basically bullied me out of my roll because apparently their 4th alt is more important than a main who legitly won the roll.

Anyway, now that the steam is gone. My request is that Gloradin Coldheart have her respawn timer greatly reduced so we can clear out this backlog of players that are aiming for this ring. I have spoken to several players that have been trying for this for at least a month or longer, and while we have a civilized way to handle it with the roll, schedule conflicts and bad rolls make it nearly impossible for those players to ever obtain this ring.

Again, today was a great example. Because so many end game players are rolling alts and PLing them up to end game quickly, a casual player, that should have had the right to his winning roll got pushed aside because a guild had nothing better to do, lost probably his only chance any time in the near future to get this done.

And before people say "Lowering the respawn time isn't classic!" This server isn't classic, it's "like classic." There are a lot of subtle changes on this server that don't line up with classic, so making one to improve the flow of the server and reduce tension between players would be greatly welcome.

I'm sure there will be a lot of flames to follow because trolls are everywhere, but I'm hoping those that have shared this pain will follow suit and support this request.

No one bullied you out of turning in; you won fair and square. You definitely should have given it a shot since the other monk there was going to help you (the fight isn't hard), but it's also pertinent to note that if no one else there is free or wants to help you need to be ready to do the event yourself with your own help. You can't expect not to be fair to others who were also present and rdy to perform if they win. Not everyone there is rolling for their alts btw.

Also I understand the frustration, however you are a 47 rogue that expected the rest to assist without planning what you would do in the event that doesn't happen in advance. Expecting the guild to only come down on the moments notice might be tough given the time of day and the requirement of turning in soon as the npc spawns (in order to not delay the spawn/roll times), which is basically 8-10 mins from the roll.

In hindsight, I would recommend making arrangements prior with the people there (in tells) or having a few others with you present to help when you win to avoid that from happening again.

[jpetrick]

From what I'm reading and understanding: you are the asshole that showed up without the ability to complete the quest and then complain that others are understandably pissed that you were going to hold up the process for them.

How close am I to being correct?

[Danth]

you are a 47 rogue.

That's some important info which is curiously missing from the original post.

Danth

[korilla]

unveiling that youre lvl 47 changes a lot of things. shoulda still went for it tho.

[AzzarTheGod]

typical BDA bullshit.

I was going to stop hating BDA.

But, then I realized, you can't stop hating something that you hate. Ya feel me?

[Cheps]

I also hate rolling vs alts. But what I hate even more is rolling vs lvl 47. Go leveling, it will help you more than upgrading your ring.

Yes the once per day respawn sucks. But that's EQ, in the end not everyone can get everything they want. And this is 10x better than scout at least.

[Foxplay]

Quest can be solo'd by a 60 monk

Come prepared or Don't come at all to Ring 8

As for your request to shorten the spawn time, Good-Luck seriously there's far far worse on the server that minor improvements or un-classic changes could drastically change and improve the experiance for everyone, but they wont happen. The vision of this server is to be as close to classic as they can...and In order to do that inclusion of everyone is flat out impossible because simply put classic everquest server's where for the most part widely about EXCLUSION.

Simply put, Classic Everquest did a lot of things right, but because it was laying the groundwork for MMO's to come it also did a lot of things WRONG. But this server isn't about correcting those wrongs, its about recreating both the good and the bad

If they Did another Server maybe Green99, that would be a place to recreate classic EQ with more up to date mechanics like Raid instance's, triggered quests that don't have ridiculous bottleneck timers and other wrong's that the game developers didnt, or simply put couldnt predict 16 years ago

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[MavstabYoudead]

If this was classic you wouldn't have been able to complete the quest...

don't understand the complaint and the fact you are doing this on a 47 rogue is even more questionable.

[Boilon]

I don't see why it matters if OP was level 47 or level 60, a quest is a quest. Great that Azure Guard stepped up to try and help the guy, definitely should have went for it rather than have other people tell you what to do if you won the roll. In the future I would advise to have people ready to kill it though.
Telling OP "gg go level more noob" is the reason why there is so many elitest pricks on this server.

[MavstabYoudead]

It matters because he showed up as a level 47 with no means to complete the quest. If you can't get the quest done don't bother showing up to roll as you are wasting a spawn potentially and everyone's time. If a level 10 shows up with 3 60s to help him with the quest more power to him.

[Expediency]

What is the point of rolling if everyone isnt going to honor it?

[Decad]

Some may argue against this but part of classic EQ is such quests like coldain rings and shawls for mains are done at 60 for the majority.

It is just ample proof of another non Classic thing about the server as everyone already had hindsight knowledge

[MavstabYoudead]

What is the point of rolling if everyone isnt going to honor it?

what is the point of rolling if you can't complete it? Sounds like he could have done this turn in, but realized he didn't have the support necessary so he didn't do the turn in. Usually enough people stick around to help the winner, but I can see why some wouldn't for a level 47 if that is what happened.

[Joyelle]

I think part of the reason people would be reluctant to help a lvl 47 with no backup is because people have been buying extra rolls from rando low level toons.

[azeth]

Hello!
Awakened members there, all on their alt monks, that basically bullied me out of my roll because apparently their 4th alt is more important than a main who legitly won the roll.

You are a level 47 rogue who showed up without any means to complete the quest

[Man0warr]

If you think 8th ring is bad, wait until the Chardok quests and Strength of the Elements.

Multiple 24-hour and 3-day spawns/triggers - it's going to be the worst.

[4WOFURY]

I've _always_ helped, no matter who won the roll, if I was there. Ask the countless amount of people I helped on Fuge while I rolled every single night for a month straight.

However, no one ever expected help of random people - it was just a nice thing to do. I had people prepared to get to EW (it's a 5ish minute run from IC rings to orc fort) within a moments notice every night, hoping I won. Luckily, people there returned the favor and helped me as well.

Also, that's a tough quest to do as a well geared 60 rogue. How did you get your 7th ring?

[wormed]

lol 47 rogue. Comon. Get 60, then go roll.

[GinnasP99]

You could always try your hand at the necromancer epic quest... =(

[Daldaen]

You could always try your hand at the necromancer epic quest... =(

It's not too bad.

Kill Kazen. Acquire 3 items. Get to Island 3 PoSky. Get epic!

2 of the 3 items are even tradeable!

[GinnasP99]

It's not too bad.

Kill Kazen. Acquire 3 items. Get to Island 3 PoSky. Get epic!

2 of the 3 items are even tradeable!

Yeh, you find a slime blood for sale lemme know =)

[Daldaen]

Slime Blood does suck. But plenty of guilds kill golems, just need to join one that does. Or offer exorbitant amounts for everything. Those seem to be the two ways to get raid stuff on P99.