Next sword for SK

[demokatt]

I have been using Sword of Skyfire 10/22 now level 1-30. Any suggestion on a one hander sword usable by SK that is a few steps better but not costing more than 200-600 pp ish

I dont have lots of PP.. so Im just looking for a step better.

Perhaps even someone got one for sale?

[Lartanin63]

I'd keep using sword of skyfire till it procs at 45. You can save up a bit more plat and get a mace of the shadowed soul or a noctivigant blade.

[GreldorEQ]

If you are guilded, well even if youre not, try to make your way over to Velks during prime time hours. The Sword of Pain rotts from the "dog pits" quite frequently. Communicate with a group down there and let them know your intentions, be in place and with a little luck you will be good until 60 with this sword.

http://wiki.project1999.com/Sword_of_Pain

I was able to snag one at lvl 30 - bring a charged WC cap, a CT pot or some other self-port item - you wont be able to run out. Any exp lost to gain this weapon is worth it.

Send me a tell if you need help with transport and I happen to be online.

[username17]

Any reason you want to stick to a 1h? A good shield? 30 is when your damage cap full drops so you might be able to find a good 2her to work on your skill ups.
But yeah like lartanin63 said Skyfire doesn't NEED to be replaced till it procs.
Options:
http://wiki.project1999.com/Deathbringer%27s_Rod
http://wiki.project1999.com/Throneblade_of_the_Ykesha
(Stretching your budget but good): http://wiki.project1999.com/Green_Jade_Halberd

[demokatt]

Yeah perhaps I better change to a 2h sword instead, I mostly tank small groups or duo thats why I wanted to keep shield but with a 2 hander they prob go down faster anyway?

[username17]

If you get a decent ratio 2hander it can be just as good or better yeah.

[RDawg816]

Depending on your race you probably need a shield for bash? It's less important in a full group, but solo or duo those bashes add up.

[falkun]

Depending on your race you probably need a shield for bash? It's less important in a full group, but solo or duo those bashes add up.

Bash damage will never outweigh 1HS vs 2HS damage levels 30+. The only reason bash maintains relevance is for interrupting casting. If you are a race that can innately slam, then you only need bash for the skill ups (pretty sure slam uses bash skill for to-hit calculation).

[Sage Truthbearer]

Yeah perhaps I better change to a 2h sword instead, I mostly tank small groups or duo thats why I wanted to keep shield but with a 2 hander they prob go down faster anyway?

Whether to use a shield or 2H weapon really depends on a lot of things, but as a general rule: If you're in a full group, use a shield. If you're soloing/duoing, use a 2-hander.

Bash damage is irrelevant, a shield is equipped for the interruption ability and extra AC.

[RDawg816]

Yeah. I wasn't talking about bash damage. That's why I brought up race. Interrupting a spell is almost always worth it.

In a full group you're main role would be to tank, most likely. In that regard, the AC helps and bashing makes for less deaths/down time. If you're able to slam/bash the AC vs. extra damage isn't usually worth a shield.

In a duo or small group, you're responsible for more of the damage. Conversely, if that spell lands you have less room for error. Depending on the classes you group with, they might be able to interrupt the spells better; they might not. You want to be as efficient as possible, which usually means you need to adapt as the situation changes.

[Sage Truthbearer]

Shield AC is pretty underrated imo. Remember, the shield slot is the only one in the game where you get ALL the ac from an item, above the cap.

I get something like +100 worn AC by equipping my 55 AC shield, and +100 worn AC does make a difference when your primary job is tanking and mitigating damage for a group.

[RDawg816]

Well now you're talking end game content. The OP is talking about a level 30 with a 600pp budget. I guarantee you he doesn't have access to a 55AC shield. He probably has a 10AC shield if I had to guess.

[Sage Truthbearer]

Heh dude, I'm not implying he can get a 55 AC shield. My point is that the AC on shields get differently than armor. Whether your shield is 10 AC or 100 AC, you will get all the AC from it since it does not count toward the softcap, and that is worth weighing in your decision whether to use a 2H or a shield in a group.

[demokatt]

Thanks for all your answers! I ended up with a Throneblade of Ykesha. Havent got time to test it yet.

My shield AC is 17 do you mean that those AC are more worth than armour and buff AC?

[Sage Truthbearer]

My shield AC is 17 do you mean that those AC are more worth than armour and buff AC?

Yes. Basically, there's something called an AC softcap.

Softcap refers to a specific amount of AC you can reach by equipping enough armor with AC on it. Once you reach the softcap, any AC you have above that number is penalized by about 33% - 50%.

Since the softcap is actually fairly low and not hard to reach (at least the classic/live values were), that means most people are already getting a big penalty on their armor's AC right now. So if you are already above the softcap and put on a breastplate with 20 AC on it, you will only actually get about 33-50% of that in AC.

It works this way for every item EXCEPT for your shield. The shield is the only item and slot in EQ where even if are already above the AC softcap, you will still get ALL of the AC on that shield. As a result, you get a lot more bang for your buck in the AC from shields than any other armor.

[demokatt]

Turned level 30, finally Feign Death! Time to try it out on two white guards in North Karana! Pulled one and the other joins.. I run away some and time to FD!! Finally FD!!!!
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hmm oh forgot I havent ever used a spell in 30 levels that uses Abjuration. Ended up with 20 fizzles in a row before I died..

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[demokatt]

Ok Im 34 now and have 1k to spend. I mostly play solo and sometimes tank in duo.

Current setup is Sword of Skyfire and 17 AC shield for tanking and a Throneblade of the Ykesha as 2 hander when solo. As armour I have all spots upgraded from banded, a mix of stuff.

Should I keep save it or buy something now? Any suggestions from people been playing SK mostly solo from 35-45

[Samoht]

Do you have 65 HP rings? Iksar scaled gloves? Some pieces of sebilite scale and dreadscale and kylong are good, too.

[RDawg816]

Do you have ac/hp rings? Haste item? Hooded Black Cloak? Some of the Crustacean armor is cheap, also...

[RDawg816]

Double post.

[Danth]

You're starting to get to the point where most upgrades will cost thousands rather than hundreds of platinum. Keep saving for now. If you don't have a haste item yet then save up for that first. Since you mostly solo, haste will improve your character more than anything else you can buy for the same price. A cost-effective haste option is something like silver chitin hand wraps, which can be had for perhaps under 4,000 platinum. It may sound expensive now, but you'll wear those until you replace them probably with higher-tier haste items which cost tens of thousands.

Your weapons are adequate for the time being. You'll want to replace both of them eventually but they'll do for now. In particular the Sword of Skyfire will demand replacement at level 45. The Throneblade can last a little longer if it has to. Once you're in the 40's it's time to start planning ahead more generally. Look up items that can carry you all the way to level 60 without requiring replacement. Examples include Idol of the Thorned for range slot (still too pricey for you in the here and now) and crafted rings for the finger slots (5/55 or 6/65 will both do).

Danth

[demokatt]

I have the +55 HP rings.. and some dreadscale, some sebilite armour.

no haste items and one earring with +3 STR and one with +6STA

[Yoite]

earrings can be pretty expensive for very little gain. I would focus on saving up for haste as Danth said. The FBSS has come down in price and is only 5k or so and the hand wraps 4k or so.

[vouss]

none of it really matters tbh especially on blue just do what ever you want

[Samoht]

Just use Orc fang earrings.

[demokatt]

Yes I just bought them

[Xaanka]

none of it really matters tbh especially on blue just do what ever you want

[EatitNerd]

none of it really matters tbh especially on blue just do what ever you want

[RDawg816]

The red trolls aren't really adding anything useful to this thread. Go figure. OP is here asking for advice. He doesn't care how cool you are on a PvP server.

I would start saving up for a haste item. The 2 most common are either the SCHW or the FBSS. If you get the gloves, they're cheaper and you can get some nice belts. If you opt for the FBSS, there are a couple pair of gloves worth looking into getting. Personally, I like the SCHW better but it's up to you. :)

[Aesop]

If you are guilded, well even if youre not, try to make your way over to Velks during prime time hours. The Sword of Pain rotts from the "dog pits" quite frequently. Communicate with a group down there and let them know your intentions, be in place and with a little luck you will be good until 60 with this sword.

http://wiki.project1999.com/Sword_of_Pain

I was able to snag one at lvl 30 - bring a charged WC cap, a CT pot or some other self-port item - you wont be able to run out. Any exp lost to gain this weapon is worth it.

Send me a tell if you need help with transport and I happen to be online.

This seemed like good advice and 19/25 is an excellent weapon ratio. It's got to be at least as good as the throneblade (yak proc is nice tho)

[demokatt]

Yeah I might try that if I dare, I like that it also brings 10 AC :-P

[xKoopa]

Yeah I might try that if I dare, I like that it also brings 10 AC :-P

Bank all your stuff and bind in thurg - yolo

[demokatt]

LOL I have never even been to Velious :-)

[Morningbreath]

Is Greenmist in the game?

[elwing]

yes, but iksar only

[demokatt]

My 2h slash skill seem to cap at 180 at level 40 while 1h is 200. Will this go up at 50? Is it still better to use 2h while solo instead of noc/atra shield?