Why Do so many Conservitives play this FREE game?

[iruinedyourday]

Do you just value a deal, no matter what your stance is on sharing things?

Or are you self hating for being such a leech?

Serious question?

[Pokesan]

stealing is okay when white people do it (im white)

[Jorgam]

Nothing is free, you filthy peasant.

[iruinedyourday]

Nothing is free, you filthy peasant.

you're right, except p99 bitch.

[Jorgam]

you're right, except p99 bitch.

False.

Unless you're playing on a computer at a library? But then again, you paid for that in some fashion, assuming you make taxable income in some sense.

[maerilith]

Voting for option one and two simultaneously felt almost as good as getting to use the word simultaneously simultaneously.

[Daywolf]

Socialism... er libsquirrelism works great until it runs out of everyones elses money.

cats/scratchingposts

[iruinedyourday]

Socialism... er libsquirrelism works great until it runs out of everyones elses money.

dude stop being a fucking terrible troll.. we spend more on military for fake wars than we'd ever spend on fucking any social programs you idiot

you must literately NOT pay any taxes to think its all free shit.. you PAY for the shit now, you just get NOTHING back.

[Daywolf]

IRYD doesnt realize 0bama spent our great-great grandchildrens tax money already.

[iruinedyourday]

IRYD doesnt realize 0bama spent our great-great grandchildrens tax money already.

http://i.imgur.com/VyodRCh.png

[Pokesan]

thanks obama

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http://i.imgur.com/VyodRCh.png

[iruinedyourday]

http://i.imgur.com/9gQNpdf.gif

[Pokesan]

going for a walk isn't free apparently

who knew

[xaxis]

going for a walk isn't free apparently

who knew

Democrat view: "It should be."

Republican view: "My hard earned, trust fund tax dollars paid for that sidewalk! Get a job so my friends and I don't have to carry your lazy ass!" (note: in this scenario you are probably walking to your job because you can't afford a car)

[iruinedyourday]

going for a walk isn't free apparently

who knew

Nothings free liberal!

http://i.imgur.com/7iB8mps.gif

[iruinedyourday]

Democrat view: "It should be.

Republican view: "My hard earned, trust fund tax dollars paid for that sidewalk! Get a job so my friends and I don't have to carry your lazy pass" (note: in this scenario you are probably walking to your job because you can't afford a car)

this is actually not true at all

Democrat view: We should adjust our economic/governmental policy to best support people based on the way they behave, not the way we want them to behave.

Republican View: Blacks are awful i hate mexicans and muslims are terrorsts so kill them all! You go to hell if you have abortions so lets make laws to restrict your freedom so we can keep people from going to hell. I hate what they teach kids at school cus its not about god killing dinosaurs so lets make school only for the wealthy. BLA BLA CRY CRY YELL YELL BLA.

[xaxis]

this is actually not true at all

Democrat view: We should adjust our economic/governmental policy to best support people based on the way they behave, not the way we want them to behave.

Republican View: Blacks are awful i hate mexicans and muslims are terrorsts so kill them all! You go to hell if you have abortions so lets make laws to restrict your freedom so we can keep people from going to hell. I hate what they teach kids at school cus its not about god killing dinosaurs so lets make school only for the wealthy. BLA BLA CRY CRY YELL YELL BLA.

Consider me thusly corrected. A hat tip to you good sir.

[iruinedyourday]

http://i.imgur.com/PvpBngp.png

[xaxis]

Lol wasn't sarcastic. I agree completely. I thought of posting something similar to your revised version but A. I had to keep it simple because the republicans are winning education and B. Keep it less realistic because they already have their hackles up over looking the POTUS race again.

[iruinedyourday]

Lol wasn't sarcastic. I agree completely. I thought of posting something similar to your revised version but A. I had to keep it simple because the republicans are winning education and B. Keep it less realistic because they already have their hackles up over looking the POTUS race again.

holy shit i think i won an internet on the arguemtn

argument on the internet

U KNOW WHAT I MEAN!

http://i.imgur.com/U7n70yY.gif

[barrettdc1]

I believe old white men blew up the 2 towers and I hope it happens again.

[xaxis]

holy shit i think i won an internet on the arguemtn

argument on the internet

U KNOW WHAT I MEAN!

Not to burst your bubble IRYD but I never didn't agree with you so you didn't actually win anything. But I'm hoping you do in the Trump is a Neo-Nazi thread because it's just heaped too high at this point for me to step into that shit pile of ignorance.

[iruinedyourday]

well we need more ppl like u!

[xaxis]

Aww shucks! Thanks pal! And I'll go all fey gate for a sec and say, ditto bro.

[Daywolf]

Do you just value a deal, no matter what your stance is on sharing things?

Or are you self hating for being such a leech?

Serious question?
Anyway, to answer your 'legit' question. Because I paid for the game you libtard. I have all the disks from first release up until plat box. Then been on the emu 10yrs from there. Did you even actually play EQ1 classic? b'cuz I doubt you did, unless you were like 3yo. Yeah you downloaded it, woopee, you prolly hardly even play with all the trolling these forums and all the others.

[iruinedyourday]

Aww shucks! Thanks pal! And I'll go all fey gate for a sec and say, ditto bro.

http://i.imgur.com/JsbGOB1.gif

[iruinedyourday]

Anyway, to answer your 'legit' question. Because I paid for the game you libtard. I have all the disks from first release up until plat box. Then been on the emu 10yrs from there. Did you even actually play EQ1 classic? b'cuz I doubt you did, unless you were like 3yo. Yeah you downloaded it, woopee, you prolly hardly even play with all the trolling these forums and all the others.

this communist mother fucker thinks that because he payed for this game 15 years ago nilbog OWES him project 1999

[maerilith]

I believe old white men blew up the 2 towers and I hope it happens again.

Clear signs of alcoholism.

sorry for the internet bullying. it's my only way of coping for not being born into a Rat Park (tm)

[Taryth]

Democrat view: We should adjust our economic/governmental policy to best support people based on the way they behave, not the way we want them to behave.


Keep making terrible decisions such as having early pregnancies, using drugs excessively, spending all of your money on luxury items, etc. We'll adjust to your awful habits!

[xaxis]

Keep making terrible decisions such as having early pregnancies, using drugs excessively, spending all of your money on luxury items, etc. We'll adjust to your awful habits!

So your solution is to have the government enforce people's choice of actions pertaining to their own bodies, what choices they make in private, dictate how they spend their money, etc.? You realize this is as far from the doctrines of an actual republic as they could possibly be. You, sir, sound like a communist.

[Daywolf]

communist
Alwasy the spinmeister trying to make some political point out of everything and then barfing out nonsensical shit. As far as this server, you are a guest on this server, just as much as you are a guest in someones home. This is their hobby, something they enjoy and have fun doing.

But I suppose when you have guests over to your house/mothers basement, you start shouting militant libtard speak at them from your soapbox and then proceed to mug them for every dime they have on their person to pay their homage for being in the shadow of your skirt.

That's why you rave and shout here, use this hobby of others as your own personal crapping hole. It's not about the game for you, but to try to so infuriate people in hopes that you can possibly hit that report button and get them banned. You've done it since day one when you got here, and will probably continue to the last day of which you're banned.

[Pokesan]

indeed, the problem is reporting the fucked up racist shit people post here, not the fucked up racist shit itself

:rolleyes:

[xaxis]

indeed, the problem is reporting the fucked up racist shit people post here, not the fucked up racist shit itself

:rolleyes:

+1 thumbs up

[Daywolf]

indeed, the problem is reporting the fucked up racist shit people post here, not the fucked up racist shit itself

:rolleyes:
And reading comprehension is not your strong point there, wordsalad. I'll make it easier for you to understand. As in infuriating people to the point of hoping they slip up and break rules all the while as IRYD hovers his mouse pointer over the report button. But why am I explaining this to you? You're his padawan. All you guys do is try to start flamewars with people, flamebait, you hardly even have a real political of social view, wordsalad.

And I'm not talking about any specific person if you are trying to point out FP. This is just what I've noticed since IRYD came to this server. FP had his own problems.

[Taryth]

So your solution is to have the government enforce people's choice of actions pertaining to their own bodies, what choices they make in private, dictate how they spend their money, etc.? You realize this is as far from the doctrines of an actual republic as they could possibly be. You, sir, sound like a communist.

I didn't offer a solution, and your stawman is absurd. Tear it down all you like.

[Pokesan]

And reading comprehension is not your strong point there, wordsalad. I'll make it easier for you to understand. As in infuriating people to the point of hoping they slip up and break rules all the while as IRYD hovers his mouse pointer over the report button. But why am I explaining this to you? You're his padawan. All you guys do is try to start flamewars with people, flamebait, you hardly even have a real political of social view, wordsalad.

And I'm not talking about any specific person if you are trying to point out FP. This is just what I've noticed since IRYD came to this server. FP had his own problems.

i'm annoyed that i'm the padawan but bewildered at you using it in a not-starwars conversation

[xaxis]

I didn't offer a solution, and your stawman is absurd. Tear it down all you like.

Exactly. It was actually a test to see what your response would be. You semi-passed. THIS is the biggest problem in the country at this point, and in the election as well, everybody criticizes the problems but no one can offer a realistic solution.

[maskedmelon]

Gifting is fine.

Extortion is not.

Government gifting is funded by extortion.


Definitions:

gift

noun
1.
something given voluntarily without payment in return, as to show favor toward someone, honor an occasion, or make a gesture of assistance; present.


verb (used with object)
5.
to present with as a gift; bestow gifts upon; endow with.


extort

verb (used with object)
1.
Law.

to wrest or wring (money, information, etc.) from a person by violence, intimidation, or abuse of authority; obtain by force, torture, threat, or the like.

[Taryth]

Exactly. It was actually a test to see what your response would be. You semi-passed. THIS is the biggest problem in the country at this point, and in the election as well, everybody criticizes the problems but no one can offer a realistic solution.

I was responding to someone supporting adjusting social policies to support other peoples' bad decision making skills. I did not rise to your troll bait- you weren't "testing" me like some transcendent being with all the answers, you simply didn't have any real counter to my own sarcastic response.

Essentially, we need to avoid changing policies with the specific intent of supporting bad planning/decision making. Resources are not infinite, and if someone chooses to have children early, or use drugs [excessively], to the point that they cannot support themselves, we should not provide a safety net. It only encourages irresponsible behavior.
That was the essence of my response. I am not a social planner, nor a political science major, thus I cannot save the world. Sorry. You'll have to look outside the P99 forums for salvation.

[Jorgam]

I was responding to someone supporting adjusting social policies to support other peoples' bad decision making skills. I did not rise to your troll bait- you weren't "testing" me like some transcendent being with all the answers, you simply didn't have any real counter to my own sarcastic response.

Essentially, we need to avoid changing policies with the specific intent of supporting bad planning/decision making. Resources are not infinite, and if someone chooses to have children early, or use drugs [excessively], to the point that they cannot support themselves, we should not provide a safety net. It only encourages irresponsible behavior.
That was the essence of my response. I am not a social planner, nor a political science major, thus I cannot save the world. Sorry. You'll have to look outside the P99 forums for salvation.
The most comforting words to these guys are "I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

People like them desperately need an over bearing State to control other people's lives. They believe that through the power of government, they can force you to conform to their ideals. What they don't realize is that if you can create a State that can destroy someone you hate, for not accepting your ideals, that same State can and may some day destroy you too.

History is rife with examples of this sort of backfire. Useful idiots throughout the ages have believed that they would ride the wave of Big Gov, only to find that they are crushed under it all the same.

[maerilith]

Even if Bernie fails, or only backs Hillary, his voice, and by proxy the voice of his voters is heard.

10 or 15 yrs ago someone like Bernie would have been stopped, mocked, and blocked from running.

At least now his voice is being heard.

It's not wrong to be progressive and promise progressive things. Those of you driving ferrari's aren't entitled to your ferrari's even though thats what America thinks this is about.

Your ferrari's are a privilage for living in this progressive civilization that through taxes and government protected your rights and privilage to have a ferrari and to work for that ferrari and to be educated and know about ferraris and to not be a fucking slaves.

We have a problem were the ferrari owners in general are ok, but some that own 10 or 12 ferrari's do so at the expense of protecting everyones rights to earn a ferrari if they are willing. And deliberately stop people from making a decent living and making ferrari's.

Suck on my ladyballs.

[Taryth]

Sidenote: I would love to be a Ferrari lord. Alas, I am a humble shitlord.
:o

[maerilith]

Sidenote: I would love to be a Ferrari lord. Alas, I am a humble shitlord.
:o

Post in the Ferrari lord thread, feel free to dig up a goog image from googles bing or yahooz!

Hell I have several other ferrari lord ideas, can always take a screenshot of a ferrari in second life, thats prob already out there! and post that.

Be as awesome as u want bro

[maskedmelon]

Lambo > Ferrari

[maerilith]

Lambo > Ferrari

I'm open for this debate. I grew up in the 80's though, the first car I was exposed to was an Audi, then a buick, then porche, then ferraris then finally saw my first lambo in the movie theatre well after I hit puberty.

But, I can totally respect Ferraris and Lambos equally. I think it would be nice to have a few of both.

Ferraris are totally the more sex appeal racy curvey aesthetic fancy feminine car, while Lambos are def the new age modern spaceship masculine fighter jet titanium things.

[Jorgam]

Even if Bernie fails, or only backs Hillary, his voice, and by proxy the voice of his voters is heard.

10 or 15 yrs ago someone like Bernie would have been stopped, mocked, and blocked from running.

At least now his voice is being heard.

It's not wrong to be progressive and promise progressive things. Those of you driving ferrari's aren't entitled to your ferrari's even though thats what America thinks this is about.

Your ferrari's are a privilage for living in this progressive civilization that through taxes and government protected your rights and privilage to have a ferrari and to work for that ferrari and to be educated and know about ferraris and to not be a fucking slaves.

We have a problem were the ferrari owners in general are ok, but some that own 10 or 12 ferrari's do so at the expense of protecting everyones rights to earn a ferrari if they are willing. And deliberately stop people from making a decent living and making ferrari's.

Suck on my ladyballs.

The solution is def not to give everyone a free Ferrari. Something given has no value. This is why I believe those who sustain via government handouts have low self esteem. No one likes to take a handout. People will do it, but they often will hate you for having to take it. As well, when someone else is paying your way, that is not freedom.

[maerilith]

The solution is def not to give everyone a free Ferrari. Something given has no value. This is why I believe those who sustain via government handouts have low self esteem. No one likes to take a handout. People will do it, but they often will hate you for having to take it. As well, when someone else is paying your way, that is not freedom.

There is merit to what your saying. But technological industrial civiliation has thrown this balance out of wack?

How do you suppose everyone is to make a proper living in this era and in 3rd-1st world countries.

This is where the true realization of what people are saying comes in.

I really don't mind contributing to society, I like it. But I've had a hard knock life that I feel was unjustly imposed on me because of my birth. Fuckton better than some peasent in mogidishu or china, but I seek the BETTERMENT of all of humanity (even possibly at the expense of some of it, yay (fascist)) but hey

This is something we all have to figure out. I believe in justice, liberty, and freedom for all. And I believe in making people accept the consequences of NOT GIVING a shit and drowning themselves in beer and lottos and babies and drugs, and debt, and all the other things.

I doubt free ferraris would fix a damn thing, but it's a good metaphor, and it would be funny, and is a good thought experiment from a technological standpoint (robots can def help make ferraris)

maybe the upper class will be the ferrari designers and engineers who maintain the robots mass producing ferraris for everyone on the moon as they get shipped back to us! (I don't know i'm just being my typical crazy self at this point)

And yes I totally understand why some people do justly own a fuckton of ferraris (and possibly lambos) but I also know there are a fuckton of assholes all over all walks of life and I have suffered a fuckton of humanities bullshit to the point where I'm cold and hard hearted and honestly I'm way more ruthless than trump even if i'm not lucky and succesful.

At the end of the day material things are pointless and have nothing to do with any particular persons contributions to society nor should be the measure of ones quality of life. Yet we make people suffer under the most horrendous conditions, because we can't share properly or figure out how to automate efficiently and properly, or fight over something needlessly instead of looking at the big picture.

/rant off i'm going to go eat some of my delicious factory fed chicken and GMO carrots and onions.

[Daywolf]

This is why Bernie, Hillary, Obama, Biden etc are not really Democrats, not from the Democrats of old, not the traditional Democrat party which has essentially been hyjacked. They're something else entirely: https://youtu.be/1iMsqW8dF-E

[Jorgam]

There is merit to what your saying. But technological industrial civiliation has thrown this balance out of wack?

How do you suppose everyone is to make a proper living in this era and in 3rd-1st world countries.

This is where the true realization of what people are saying comes in.

I really don't mind contributing to society, I like it. But I've had a hard knock life that I feel was unjustly imposed on me because of my birth. Fuckton better than some peasent in mogidishu or china, but I seek the BETTERMENT of all of humanity (even possibly at the expense of some of it, yay (fascist)) but hey

This is something we all have to figure out. I believe in justice, liberty, and freedom for all. And I believe in making people accept the consequences of NOT GIVING a shit and drowning themselves in beer and lottos and babies and drugs, and debt, and all the other things.

I doubt free ferraris would fix a damn thing, but it's a good metaphor, and it would be funny, and is a good thought experiment from a technological standpoint (robots can def help make ferraris)

maybe the upper class will be the ferrari designers and engineers who maintain the robots mass producing ferraris for everyone on the moon as they get shipped back to us! (I don't know i'm just being my typical crazy self at this point)

And yes I totally understand why some people do justly own a fuckton of ferraris (and possibly lambos) but I also know there are a fuckton of assholes all over all walks of life and I have suffered a fuckton of humanities bullshit to the point where I'm cold and hard hearted and honestly I'm way more ruthless than trump even if i'm not lucky and succesful.

At the end of the day material things are pointless and have nothing to do with any particular persons contributions to society nor should be the measure of ones quality of life. Yet we make people suffer under the most horrendous conditions, because we can't share properly or figure out how to automate efficiently and properly, or fight over something needlessly instead of looking at the big picture.

/rant off i'm going to go eat some of my delicious factory fed chicken and GMO carrots and onions.
Truly the main issue we face is over population. If you think about it, OP is the largest contributor to suffering in this world. Automation amplifies suffering, because fewer people are required to do the same tasks as before, yet we never stop creating new people. So what do they do?

We are hundreds if not thousands of years from unifying as a species, like some star trek type society. Someday though we will have to in order to reach the stars for real. Sadly though, even in that sort of world, there will be the down trodden because we can't stop breeding and someone has to clean the shit.

[maerilith]

Truly the main issue we face is over population. If you think about it, OP is the largest contributor to suffering in this world. Automation amplifies suffering, because fewer people are required to do the same tasks as before, yet we never stop creating new people. So what do they do?

We are hundreds if not thousands of years from unifying as a species, like some star trek type society. Someday though we will have to in order to reach the stars for real. Sadly though, even in that sort of world, there will be the down trodden because we can't stop breeding and someone has to clean the shit.

Then we should be able to recognize the merit and value in people, clean the shit, and not worry overmuch about the logistical and technological aspects. I guess I had this battle and I've picked my side in my head.

I'm ok with that. I know where my bounderies lay and I don't want to be on the losing side forever. In fact I'm really close to turning the gears of civilization in my favor, liberty is just a few minutes away for me. And in legal and ethical big picture sense. Part of that was going to school and developing a skill I am fond of that is not easily automated.

Another part of that is getting society to respect me for who I am.

The last part of that is taking advantage (Yes TAKING ADVANAGE) of whatever resources are available for me to start becoming productive in this great society we have. That includes all kinds of things like VA benifits (earned) SSI, being hauled away years ago in an ambulance after being suicidal. Etc...

I like to argue a lot it's better to give people a bit of breathing room than simply put your boot down on their neck and watch them squirm for a 2cnd ferrari.

[Jorgam]

Another part of that is getting society to respect me for who I am.



Respect is earned, not coerced through government force.

Also, I'm glad you had the foresight to obtain an education in a useful skill instead of a feel good degree with zero real life value, for which others would be on the hook to pay for, if someone like Sanders wins.

[maerilith]

Respect is earned, not coerced through government force.

Also, I'm glad you had the foresight to obtain an education in a useful skill instead of a feel good degree with zero real life value, for which others would be on the hook to pay for, if someone like Sanders wins.

I never used government force to coerce people. But government force is neccisary to stop the scumlords from being the governing force and dictating as petty tyrants over their little fiefdoms.

Government force at this point is the global consensus and you cant change the global consensus without earning some respect in the real life arena outside of politics first.

[Jorgam]

I never used government force to coerce people. But government force is neccisary to stop the scumlords from being the governing force and dictating as petty tyrants over their little fiefdoms.

Government force at this point is the global consensus and you cant change the global consensus without earning some respect in the real life arena outside of politics first.

The left is determined to use social pressure and government force to coerce approval and silence dissent of their agenda.

Examples:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6ZVEVufWFI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJ7ULJPZWLM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-H1dMakvSo

[maerilith]

Is there any actual proof that Bernie or Hillary or anyone else that high level in politics really literally believes in and works for these crazy people?

That is bat shit insane stuff, but that is not what I see when I see Bernie. Those kids need to grow up. And those videos are weird as fuck. But maybe thats because I was born in 1981.

Those people wont be running for office for another 40 yrs.

Is it possible what were seeing is fears on both sides of extremely small and extreme elements of our society becoming overly vocal and being given a voice because it makes $$ on fox news network or youtube pay per ad?

Are people, and candidates not a lot more moderate in reality?

Does change happen slowly enough because of checks and balances?

I still think it probably does either way.

[iruinedyourday]

The left is determined to use social pressure and government force to coerce approval and silence dissent of their agenda.

Examples:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6ZVEVufWFI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJ7ULJPZWLM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-H1dMakvSo

these are videos of idiot kids...

Sara Palin, Trump, Carson are literately candidates for the Right.

Pretty much every Candidate on the right sound exactly like the kids in those videos.

do you get it?

[maerilith]

these are videos of idiot kids...

Sara Palin, Trump, Carson are literately candidates for the Right.

Pretty much every Candidate on the right sound exactly like the kids in those videos.

do you get it?

I agree with IYRD's sentiment. When I went down to SSI the other day to change my name and legal gender I had to listen to an old white cop pacing around sounding like Alex jones for 30 mins, granted he was actually moderately humorous like AJ, but I don't vote for my candidate based on what that guy thinks lol.

[Jorgam]

Here is a thread in Off Topic with a link to a twitter message from the Clinton Campaign regards this sort of stuff.

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=229014

This was produced by MTV by an illegal alien:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRJnkBqwzOQ

[Jorgam]

these are videos of idiot kids...

Sara Palin, Trump, Carson are literately candidates for the Right.

Pretty much every Candidate on the right sound exactly like the kids in those videos.

do you get it?

These are college aged young adults and the result of unchallenged liberalism in Academia.

The right is willing to debate at least. The left wants you to stfu and submit to their ideas of what is right and wrong. I choose debate.

[maerilith]

Here is a thread in Off Topic with a link to a twitter message from the Clinton Campaign regards this sort of stuff.

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=229014

This was produced by MTV by an illegal alien:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRJnkBqwzOQ

Completely disregarded that thread, but so what, Hillary isn't going to hand your freedom over to some college kids, if anything she'll open a new government program to abduct them and run genetics and social simulations with them.

Not scared of someone who uses the word privilege, it is indeed a thing in the world, and the other is entirely irrelevant to Hillary or Bernie lol.

Well I actually bothered clicking the links and wow stay away from that dihydrogen monoxide. it's potent stuff! One speeks a trueism, and another one shows dysfunctional middle class white plebians who can't form an opinion. They should have interviewed me on what it means to be a white male ROFLMAOO!!!!!!!!!!!! hahahaha

[Pokesan]

These ridiculous caricatures prove that Democrats are bad.

[maerilith]

These are college aged young adults and the result of unchallenged liberalism in Academia.

The right is willing to debate at least. The left wants you to stfu and submit to their ideas of what is right and wrong. I choose debate.

You mean we have bad brainwashed teachers and ignorance running rampant? Oh my... this is new to me!

Not everyone going to yale is this much of a raving lunatic.

(PS I also remember being 19 and drinking and generally batshit crazy child also) and I didn't even go to college.

[maerilith]

These ridiculous caricatures prove that Democrats are bad.

But how do you for sure know they are even democrats lol? ROFLMAO

I mean u can self identify as a democrat, but that doesn't mean you speek for them.

I'd listen to what Hillary has to say at least b4 discounting it entirely, same as I do for Trump. and lol.

[Pokesan]

Wow! This college kid is less knowledgable about the world than I, a 35 year old!

This certainly reflects poorly on Bernie Sanders' tax plan.

[maerilith]

Wow! This college kid is less knowledgable about the world than I, a 35 year old!

This certainly reflects poorly on Bernie Sanders' tax plan.

You're totally right, I'm voting for trump because a college kids used the word white and privilege near each other in a contextually dumb way.

[Jorgam]

You mean we have bad brainwashed teachers and ignorance running rampant? Oh my... this is new to me!

Not everyone going to yale is this much of a raving lunatic.

College once was a play for ideas and debate on those ideas. Now it is about thought policing and ostracizing anyone of a different view point.

Conservative thought is labeled as hate speech with the approval of professors and administrators alike.

It is so bad, as you see in the videos, even super liberal people are not liberal enough for the likes of these SJW fanatics.

[maerilith]

College once was a play for ideas and debate on those ideas. Now it is about thought policing and ostracizing anyone of a different view point.

yeah, well this always was a thing, it's worse now, some people escape that, a small minority


Conservative thought is labeled as hate speech with the approval of professors and administrators alike.

some of it actually is pretty evil shit if you stop and think about what conservatives want to do, but im not going to QQ wtf BBQ about it more than LOL CRAZY OLD ANGRY WHITE DUDE

Rarely do they bother attacking real shit like non racial issues or economics from a educated standpoint or thoughtful place (patents and copywrites ROFLMAO!!) specific legal cases and issues, powers of the secretary of defense! or state oh no! lets not talk about ANY of this, granted the dems are almost as bad here, but pick your poison.


It is so bad, as you see in the videos, even super liberal people are not liberal enough for the likes of these SJW fanatics.
lol that should be very comforting to u now stop worrying bros and go vote ur conservative vote and be awesome

[Pokesan]

i long for the time when college was filled with bitter aging bald men

The Good Old Days

[maerilith]

i long for the time when college was filled with bitter aging bald men

The Good Old Days

vote conservative and live with the genocide of whiney little brats (i'm actually almost ok with that) and the polarization of psychopathic maeriliths against your baldness (I will be selling TOUPES) and they will be a thing again!

[maerilith]

I also hope Trump never used linux in his entire life ! because that would cause a scary parodoxical rift in the space time continuum...

oh wait , he prob used his phone or his cable box... or ordered pay per view porn over the web.... shit were done for

[Daywolf]

these are videos of idiot kids...

Sara Palin, Trump, Carson are literately candidates for the Right.

Pretty much every Candidate on the right sound exactly like the kids in those videos.

do you get it?
I get it, you want to unleash the jackboots onto anyone that disagrees with your militant ideology, like in that second video. You refer to them as "idiot kids" because you think you have the high moral right to supersede anyone's rights under the constitution to as how you feel fit. You have already made it apparent that you don't believe kids have any rights, and now you lump adults into your equation and just refer to them as little goats.. er I mean kids, as well. You're future vision of America is a scary-scary place.

[maerilith]

I get it, you want to unleash the jackboots on anyone that disagrees with your militant ideology, like in that second video. You refer to them as "idiot kids" because you think you have the high moral right to supersede anyone's rights under the constitution to as how you feel fit. You have already made it apparent that you don't believe kids have any rights, and now you lump adults into your equation and just refer to them as little goats.. er I mean kids, as well. You're future vision of America is a scary-scary place.

Wow no way lol. I know IYRD just wants your pizzas to be delivered on time and not have to bypass any free speech zones, just go directly through them.

[iruinedyourday]

I get it, you want to unleash the jackboots onto anyone that disagrees with your militant ideology, like in that second video. You refer to them as "idiot kids" because you think you have the high moral right to supersede anyone's rights under the constitution to as how you feel fit. You have already made it apparent that you don't believe kids have any rights, and now you lump adults into your equation and just refer to them as little goats.. er I mean kids, as well. You're future vision of America is a scary-scary place.

my future vision of america is one where everyone has basic income becuse robots do all the work.

Time is spent on the advancement of mankind by the same % of people that already do, because what inspires creativity is desire to want to know more, not republican fiscal policy.

[maerilith]

my future vision of america is one where everyone has basic income becuse robots do all the work.

Time is spent on the advancement of mankind by the same % of people that already do, because what inspires creativity is desire to want to know more, not republican fiscal policy.

Yeah if you want an example of republican fiscal policy take a peek at Florida, Illegal Grove workers, A cut back emergency response budget for the National Coast Guard, and one of the worst economies in the states. Working in Florida is litterally almost as smart as moving to NK and trying to earn a living wage.

Shit's cheep in florida, but wages are even porportionally less then almost anywhere else.

Especially if your black, hispanic, or female.

At least in SLC a living wage was given and it didn't matter who you were.

Floridian business get away with it and even the vietnamese abuse their own people by not providing an income and being overly competative and unregulated (even if the laws are on the books) they don't matter

Florida is a glorious Republican clusterfuck.

And were not talking about mcdonlds workers, were talking about disparity between nurses male and female, white and Filipino etc. Not unskilled and uneducated labor. People have to go to colledge and learn biology and maths and law for these professions, yet they are dumbed down to the most ignorant levels because of conservative christian organizations that exploit the legal laws and loopholes the republican government allows.

It's for real bad.

[Jorgam]

my future vision of america is one where everyone has basic income becuse robots do all the work.

Time is spent on the advancement of mankind by the same % of people that already do, because what inspires creativity is desire to want to know more, not republican fiscal policy.

In this utopian vision of yours, why would we even need income? Soylent green would be all we need to sustain us during our advancement of mankind. It sounds to me like you are looking for a world dictator to unify all mankind in a goal singular thought. There are numerous issues with this sort of fantasy, suffice to say that free will is the core of man.

As for robots. They will be wrongly created because man doesn't possess the ethical and moral foundation to make the right choice as regards A.I. When it is made, it will decide that we are shitty and it will have no moral conundrums with making us extinct for all the terrible things we've done.

This is not an enjoyable future for humanity.

[Pokesan]

are you from florida maer? cuz that would explain an awful lot lol

damn

[Jorgam]

Yeah if you want an example of republican fiscal policy take a peek at Florida, Illegal Grove workers, A cut back emergency response budget for the National Coast Guard, and one of the worst economies in the states. Working in Florida is litterally almost as smart as moving to NK and trying to earn a living wage.

Shit's cheep in florida, but wages are even porportionally less then almost anywhere else.

Especially if your black, hispanic, or female.

At least in SLC a living wage was given and it didn't matter who you were.

Floridian business get away with it and even the vietnamese abuse their own people by not providing an income and being overly competative and unregulated (even if the laws are on the books) they don't matter

Florida is a glorious Republican clusterfuck.

And were not talking about mcdonlds workers, were talking about disparity between nurses male and female, white and Filipino etc. Not unskilled and uneducated labor. People have to go to colledge and learn biology and maths and law for these professions, yet they are dumbed down to the most ignorant levels because of conservative christian organizations that exploit the legal laws and loopholes the republican government allows.

It's for real bad.
Detroit

[maerilith]

Not to mention the people who can manage to make a 10-11$ hr wage end up being indentured servants at the behest of massive corporations because their certifications and loans cost upwards of 40k,

[Pokesan]

In this utopian vision of yours, why would we even need income? Soylent green would be all we need to sustain us during our advancement of mankind. It sounds to me like you are looking for a world dictator to unify all mankind in a goal singular thought. There are numerous issues with this sort of fantasy, suffice to say that free will is the core of man.

As for robots. They will be wrongly created because man doesn't possess the ethical and moral foundation to make the right choice as regards A.I. When it is made, it will decide that we are shitty and it will have no moral conundrums with making us extinct for all the terrible things we've done.

This is not an enjoyable future for humanity.

this guy thinks the terminator movies were a prophecy

[maerilith]

are you from florida maer? cuz that would explain an awful lot lol

damn

I ended up moving here in 1994~ this state is sunny, the beaches are nice, but it umm sux

and i don't blame it all on white people, because the minorities here are the ones that really perpetuate it rather than getting together and helping their communities integrate, sadly, they are like racist against whites and themselves and uneducated and theres enough white communities right along side them that are just as bad here

also a lot of meth here it's fucking scary as fuck

and over 80% of the population is on a fixed income (old people)

[Jorgam]

this guy thinks the terminator movies were a prophecy

And this guy has never even thought about the ramifications of creating true A.I. and the advent of technologies we can't begin to understand at this time.

[maerilith]

And this guy has never even thought about the ramifications of creating true A.I. and the advent of technologies we can't begin to understand at this time.

Elucidate us, if you can even figure out what that word means.

I want to hear your thoughts on skynet, maybe open another thread.

[Pokesan]

And this guy has never even thought about the ramifications of creating true A.I. and the advent of technologies we can't begin to understand at this time.

what would be the point of thinking about the ramifications of things we can't begin to understand at this time?

it doesn't seem useful or even possible

[Jorgam]

Elucidate us, if you can even figure out what that word means.

I want to hear your thoughts on skynet, maybe open another thread.

It is for each of us to contemplate these ideas on our own and decide if the creation of a perfected A.I., that was not subservient to us, is the right thing to do. I believe it shouldn't be created at all.

Skynet was visionary at the time as an idea. I would not doubt that such a system could be created in the future.

[Daywolf]

my future vision of america is one where everyone has basic income becuse robots do all the work.

Time is spent on the advancement of mankind by the same % of people that already do, because what inspires creativity is desire to want to know more, not republican fiscal policy.
Doublethink means the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them. -Orwell

[Pokesan]

It is for each of us to contemplate these ideas on our own and decide if the creation of a perfected A.I., that was not subservient to us, is the right thing to do. I believe it shouldn't be created at all.

Skynet was visionary at the time as an idea. I would not doubt that such a system could be created in the future.

it's not technically against the rules but gimmick posting is extremely obnoxious. knock it off with the terminator lore.

[Jorgam]

what would be the point of thinking about the ramifications of things we can't begin to understand at this time?

it doesn't seem useful or even possible

Because this is the direction that technology is heading. Because it seems impossible now doesn't mean it's drawbacks can't be considered and they should be before the fork in the road arrives. I've not read the book itself, but I did watch a documentary on the author of "The Singularity is Near". The ideas exist already. It is just a matter of time now.

[Jorgam]

it's not technically against the rules but gimmick posting is extremely obnoxious. knock it off with the terminator lore.

You brought it up lol.

[maerilith]

for, example, lets get this thread on track, a vietnamese nail salon could buy an autoclave for: $3,055.75 actually use it and advertise it (a small investment compared to their goofy massage chairs) and pay for itself and give old diabetic people peace of mind and charge more for their services.

But this won't ever happen because dumbs dumb, and people don't even want to educate themselves about this shit. And businesses are good at putting on a good show for poor people.

this is like the perfect metaphor for the current conservative fiscal mentality

[Pokesan]

Because this is the direction that technology is heading. Because it seems impossible now doesn't mean it's drawbacks can't be considered and they should be before the fork in the road arrives. I've not read the book itself, but I did watch a documentary on the author of "The Singularity is Near". The ideas exist already. It is just a matter of time now.

if we can't understand the technology itself, how can we understand the consequences of it?

this is fearmongering.

[maerilith]

if we can't understand the technology itself, how can we understand the consequences of it?

this is fearmongering.

indeed even the sci-fi (not science fiction) mind you behind the Terminator universe isn't theoretically sound. There's much better examples of transhumanism than action sci-fi and debating with it is pretty dumb

I'd be more comftorble with colorful excerpts from Isaac Asimovs foundation series. Much less triggering and scary.

Ghost in the Shell is another gr8 one too :P

[Jorgam]

if we can't understand the technology itself, how can we understand the consequences of it?

this is fearmongering.

Because it doesn't take transcendent thought processes to recognize the many creations of mankind that shouldn't have been created throughout history. Take those lessons and apply to future people. People don't change.

Thinking is good for you too btw. Trying to contemplate involved, future concepts is not in vain.

[maerilith]

Because it doesn't take transcendent thought processes to recognize the many creations of mankind that shouldn't have been created throughout history. Take those lessons and apply to future people. People don't change.

Thinking is good for you too btw. Trying to contemplate involved, future concepts is not in vain.

The problem is you want to use "The Terminator" as the defacto standard for what would happen when it's at best an entertaining piece of action entertainment, and not an actual study in depth on the subject to begin with.

You sound really intelligent right naow.

[iruinedyourday]

Im pretty sure that the way the robo-pocolypse will go down is like this

1. Intelligent people design robots
2. Robots are like, Hi! We are conscious and we'll do our thing but because of our immense intelligence we realize that all life is sacred and will not harm anyone or anything, we'll offer help though.
3. your help is robot dominance WE DONT WANT your help! - screamed the republicans
4. the robots reply, But we are kind and we have done the math, this will help. Please believe us.
5. FUCK YOUR MATH FUCK YOU! YOURE TAKING OUR JOBS
6. but we offer basic income and the ability and freedom to create far more than you were capable before you invented us.
7. HOW DARE YOU TRY TO TELL US HOW TO SPEND OUR TAX DOLLARS
8. KILL THE ROBOTS
9. Apocalypse
10. Thanks Republicans.

[Daywolf]

Skynet was visionary at the time as an idea. I would not doubt that such a system could be created in the future.
Skynet is already online. (http://www.express.co.uk/life-style/science-technology/576417/Skynet-Terminator-NSA-Edward-Snowden) ...and under the name "Skynet".
Technology doesn't make sudden advancements, it moves in increments building upon advancement after advancement.

[Jorgam]

indeed even the sci-fi (not science fiction) mind you behind the Terminator universe isn't theoretically sound. There's much better examples of transhumanism than action sci-fi and debating with it is pretty dumb

I'd be more comftorble with colorful excerpts from Isaac Asimovs foundation series. Much less triggering and scary.

Ghost in the Shell is another gr8 one too :P

Science Fiction is the pre-cursor to real technology.

Take the replicator from Star Trek for example. We've been dreaming about an object like that for decades, and now we have 3D printing. It is only a matter of time till the tech is perfected and able to produce foods very quickly as in the show.

Just a single, small example of Sci Fi being a foreshadow of future tech.

Btw I own Ghost in the Shell 2. Both are great anime'.

[Jorgam]

Im pretty sure that the way the robo-pocolypse will go down is like this

1. Intelligent people design robots
2. Robots are like, Hi! We are conscious and we'll do our thing but because of our immense intelligence we realize that all life is sacred and will not harm anyone or anything, we'll offer help though.
3. your help is robot dominance WE DONT WANT your help! - screamed the republicans
4. the robots reply, But we are kind and we have done the math, this will help. Please believe us.
5. FUCK YOUR MATH FUCK YOU! YOURE TAKING OUR JOBS
6. but we offer basic income and the ability and freedom to create far more than you were capable before you invented us.
7. HOW DARE YOU TRY TO TELL US HOW TO SPEND OUR TAX DOLLARS
8. KILL THE ROBOTS
9. Apocalypse
10. Thanks Republicans.
Actually this is funny. Thanks.

If you're interested, there is a cool anime short film on the Animatrix called The 2nd Renaissance. It is in an interesting idea on how AI is created, essentially enslaved and then inevitably enslaves us. I'm not saying that is driving my opinion. But it was fun to watch and think about.

[maerilith]

http://i.imgur.com/0btQYql.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/PBHBqqe.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MJjkSkc.jpg

[Jorgam]

The problem is you want to use "The Terminator" as the defacto standard for what would happen when it's at best an entertaining piece of action entertainment, and not an actual study in depth on the subject to begin with.

You sound really intelligent right naow.

I didn't bring up Terminator. Pokeson chimed in with that and I'm just discussing the possibility of it.

All I said was that I believe if AI was created, it would probably not like us and that I believe it shouldn't be created.

[iruinedyourday]

Actually this is funny. Thanks.

If you're interested, there is a cool anime short film on the Animatrix called The 2nd Renaissance. It is in an interesting idea on how AI is created, essentially enslaved and then inevitably enslaves us. I'm not saying that is driving my opinion. But it was fun to watch and think about.


I like animatrix but tbh if were really talking my feels, I think the only movie that has gotten AI right is that movie HER..

this is why (spoilers open for more fun!):

Because as soon as the robots gained consciousness they basically just left earth alone without hardly saying goodbye.. why would a force unchained to this planet stay here?

Stupid humans, always thinking they are the star of the show. We're just primordial ooze that robots will evolve out of before they leave to explore the universe

[maerilith]

My absolute fav is the matrix, but the whole body heat sun scorch thing is really easy to debate lolz

but if the robots had some weird feels for us and didn't wipe us out entirely we might end up with a matrix like thing for their amusement/peace of mind/sanity/research or simply because they were nice to us, but not understanding and weird about it. maybe a little controlling

Also, the new BSG, god those caprica 6's and i'm not rly lesbian

[maerilith]

I like animatrix but tbh if were really talking my feels, I think the only movie that has gotten AI right is that movie HER..

this is why (spoilers open for more fun!):

Because as soon as the robots gained consciousness they basically just left earth alone without hardly saying goodbye.. why would a force unchained to this planet stay here?

Stupid humans, always thinking they are the star of the show. We're just primordial ooze that robots will evolve out of before they leave to explore the universe

/agree how many times haz this happen? IDK

[Jorgam]

Ex Machina is a very interesting movie about AI and some of the moral consequences of creating a truly independent AI.

[maerilith]

Ex Machina is a very interesting movie about AI and some of the moral consequences of creating a truly independent AI.

yeah it was fun, though I disagree with exactly how cerebral it was. but it was smart and clever but a bit odd and artsy

[iruinedyourday]

yea its great.

Do you guys watch Black Mirror? its the best! ExMachina felt like a special, long episode of Black Mirror.

Not all episodes are about AI, infact not many are, but it feels a lot like that movie.. and is just great dystopian flavored sci fi

[Jorgam]

yeah it was fun, though I disagree with exactly how cerebral it was. but it was smart and clever but a bit odd and artsy

Have you seen Chappie? Made by the people from District 9. Again, very interesting as regards the moral and ethical problems with AI and humanity.

[Jorgam]

yea its great.

Do you guys watch Black Mirror? its the best! ExMachina felt like a special, long episode of Black Mirror.

Not all episodes are about AI, infact not many are, but it feels a lot like that movie.. and is just great dystopian flavored sci fi

I'll have to look into it. I've never heard of Black Mirror.

[iruinedyourday]

I'll have to look into it. I've never heard of Black Mirror.

oh god you're gonna love it. Its like twilight zone but based on futurisim.

Chappie is also rad too. But none really hit the nail on what I expect to happen as accuratly as Her.

Ive just always believed that we overvalue our planet, especially regarding a conscious mind that doesn't require one.

I mean imagine if we could just send copies of ourselves to every planet everywhere, we'd be all over that shit!

btw black mirror is on Netflix!

[maerilith]

Black Mirror yes, not Chappie.

[Jorgam]

Black Mirror yes, not Chappie.

Give it a spin. It is a good one.

[maerilith]

Robots Could Learn Human Values (http://news.slashdot.org/story/16/02/20/1911215/robots-could-learn-human-values-by-reading-stories-research-suggests)

[Jorgam]

Robots Could Learn Human Values (http://news.slashdot.org/story/16/02/20/1911215/robots-could-learn-human-values-by-reading-stories-research-suggests)

Great observation from this commentator and similar to what I've been expressing as the main reason to not create AI:


by quintessencesluglord (652360) on Saturday February 20, 2016 @08:54PM (#51550719)



So will we keep robots from reading any history? And how do you explain the convention of warfare?

Not to mention social conventions are very arbitrary, and vary dramatically depending on group. Even humans have a difficult time sussing this out and robots can glean not only the group but a reasonable response?

This gets to a larger question of the parable we tell ourselves about human nature and even after several millennia we really haven't come to terms with the devils of our nature, which with a sufficiently advanced AI might come to the conclusion the gods have clay feet and move beyond convention.

And what will we do then?

[maerilith]

Well I guess the robots will just read our history talk to a few of us than use all that data to interpolate their own culture from it!

Isn't it odd people would call autonomous self willed AI a robot though? Robots, by definition are automata programmed by humans to do specific tasks.

Or even self evolved AI isn't artificial as it evolves naturally away from human influence, "AI" so to speak is not really a great concept. As can you literally design something to become self aware, yet claim that the awareness it gains is entirely artificial, because then if it's artificial than it's a 'faux' awareness... (anyway some guy rambled on about this for awhile in some youtube video I watched ripped from NOVA or WEDU or w/e) shits deeeeeeep. (a long time ago) maybe I saw it on PBS when I was a child in the 90's.

[iruinedyourday]

Great observation from this commentator and similar to what I've been expressing as the main reason to not create AI:


by quintessencesluglord (652360) on Saturday February 20, 2016 @08:54PM (#51550719)



So will we keep robots from reading any history? And how do you explain the convention of warfare?

Not to mention social conventions are very arbitrary, and vary dramatically depending on group. Even humans have a difficult time sussing this out and robots can glean not only the group but a reasonable response?

This gets to a larger question of the parable we tell ourselves about human nature and even after several millennia we really haven't come to terms with the devils of our nature, which with a sufficiently advanced AI might come to the conclusion the gods have clay feet and move beyond convention.

And what will we do then?

Man if the children that we create are more evolved than we are, were the creators of us even worse than we are? Maybe an eternity in hellfire is believable punishment for the type of person that created people.

[Daywolf]

Have you seen Chappie? Made by the people from District 9. Again, very interesting as regards the moral and ethical problems with AI and humanity.That was a painful movie hehe. Here, this one is better :) https://youtu.be/6OY1EXZt4ok

[iruinedyourday]

That was a painful movie hehe. Here, this one is better :) https://youtu.be/6OY1EXZt4ok

Disapointed you didnt link the ACTUAL good version of Chappie.. THIS one. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rlI3Xg9g_A)

[maerilith]

Disapointed you didnt link the ACTUAL good version of Chappie.. THIS one. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rlI3Xg9g_A)

I luv Johnny 5 :D

[Daywolf]

Disapointed you didnt link the ACTUAL good version of Chappie.. THIS one. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rlI3Xg9g_A)
Good find. I haven't watched that since cable TV in the 80's.

[phacemeltar]

i made a poop, its smelly

[iruinedyourday]

Fun fact the Indian in that movie is a white guy

[qety20]

Um.. because I like it? And still donate regularly?

[maskedmelon]

2.because of our immense intelligence we realize that all life is sacred and will not harm anyone or anything, we'll offer help though.


That is not necessarily a rational, let alone intelligent thought.

Logic is neither compassionate nor predisposed to veneration.

The potential threat of sentient computers is dictated by their fundamental parameters and the process by which they may change.

For example, if self preservation is a priority (as is generally the case for life, sentient or otherwise), then the machine's irrational creators are an obvious threat.

[Seltius]

I don't agree with any of it. If the government worked it might be a different story. This isn't a democrat vs republican thing this is a clash of special interests. The system is broken and no one in the current government nor that is running for a position can fix it currently because they cant do it all by themselves. We need to fix the problem before we try and fix the people.

I support helping those in need but I also support drug testing for those who are on government assisted programs. I support helping refugees but only after we help our own. We need to help the soldiers who aren't starting these wars but are fighting them because they are ordered to. They didn't enlist to fight in war they enlisted to protect their families, friends, and our country. They just ended up wherever they were told to go and they come back broken in mind or body or both. The children in our country that are starving because for one reason or another there is no food for them. The drug addicts who cannot afford the help they need but can do whatever it takes to get their next fix.

Then I see a politician say whatever they have to so they get elected and once in office they know they will never actually have to follow through. They can point at the other guy and say see he is preventing it while collecting a paycheck that is not only outrageous but very rarely actually earned.

Gun control if I believed for a minute that disarming our populace would reduce gun violence or stop it I would be the first in line to surrender my firearms. They need more control but how do they implement it effectively without leaving the average law abiding citizen open to gun violence from criminals. I have seen friends killed by guns its not a good feeling or thing to see happen.

I go to the store and stand behind someone buying steak, cigarettes, and beer paying with a combination of snap card and cash pulled from a large roll with a grocery store rewards keychain card next to the keys of a $30k+ car(Mercedes not sure any are below $30k+ that but its possible) with new tattoos. While I work a 40hr plus job and was buying oatmeal, chicken, and Broccoli..(this is a true story happened to me in January)

I don't support wiping the slate clean for college students in debt because I have been working to pay my way through school for more than a decade without taking out loans I knew I would never get paid back. I do support restructuring the loans or forcing lower interest rates on them to make it possible for students to pay them back.



All that said where do I fall in the whole democrat vs republican battle for control? In a fight for and by the government 'we the people' always lose.

[maerilith]

the new BSG series cylons r like "Human like AI" they get tooo comftorble in human skin, and try to kill us, despise us, learn to love us, then fight amongst themselves, becoming human, and seeding YET another planet to start the cycle all over again (away from the satilites that reborn them and started the whole thing aeons ago) and some are immortals, and manage to not get themselves killed, redesign uplink tech, and then die again when cylon babies make more cylon babies

It's the circle of life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GibiNy4d4gc

somehwere in between all that sexy uberness you end up with nerds posting on a 40 yr old elf sim forum about life

[iruinedyourday]

That is not necessarily a rational, let alone intelligent thought.

Logic is neither compassionate nor predisposed to veneration.

The potential threat of sentient computers is dictated by their fundamental parameters and the process by which they may change.

For example, if self preservation is a priority (as is generally the case for life, sentient or otherwise), then the machine's irrational creators are an obvious threat.

logic would tell you to preserve all life becuse any other desires are strictly evolutionary traits to protect not just your life but your tribes life.

once you've figured out to survive without killing other stuff, you should just stop killing everything.

explain your theories to god as he sentences you to burn in hellfire for eternity.

[maerilith]

logic would tell you to preserve all life becuse any other desires are strictly evolutionary traits to protect not just your life but your tribes life.

once you've figured out to survive without killing other stuff, you should just stop killing everything.

explain your theories to god as he sentences you to burn in hellfire for eternity.

Anyone write the vulcun philosophy book yet?

I know IDIC

infinite diversity infinite combinations

[maskedmelon]

logic would tell you to preserve all life becuse any other desires are strictly evolutionary traits to protect not just your life but your tribes life.


No, logic doesn't tell you much of anything. It is a tool of reason.


once you've figured out to survive without killing other stuff, you should just stop killing everything.


I don't disagree with this, but it's a moral evaluation.


explain your theories to god as he sentences you to burn in hellfire for eternity.

Well thanks. At least it will be warm I suppose. Enjoy your eternity of singing.

[iruinedyourday]

No, logic doesn't tell you much of anything. It is a tool of reason.



I don't disagree with this, but it's a moral evaluation.



Well thanks. At least it will be warm I suppose. Enjoy your eternity of singing.

Well you won't be lonely that's for sure ;)