View Full Version : A Political Scientist Says Trump is a NAZI
Lurikeen
02-28-2016, 08:17 PM
OK, maybe not a NAZI as we know them from Hitler, but certainly a nationalist. Read it for yourself.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/moment-of-truth-we-must-stop-trump/2016/02/21/0172e788-d8a7-11e5-925f-1d10062cc82d_story.html
KagatobLuvsAnimu
02-28-2016, 08:29 PM
Did not click link.
What's wrong with nationalism?
Big_Japan
02-28-2016, 08:37 PM
I stopped clicking washington post lanks after seeing the word "lulz-seekers" and a really obnoxious emoji got past its editors and into one of its clickbait "articles". I'd link the one but naw.
We need to jettison every last one of these jewmedia establishments into space. The respect the names carry still seems to live on, but there is absolutely nothing separating them from buzzfeed at this point. Our beloved 4th estate is now nothing more than a filthy kitchen rag being wrung for its last few drops of name recognition before we finally delve into scientifically calibrated 100% algorithmically-generated self-fulfilling prophecy disinfo "news" content and writers/journalists get fully replaced by NSA data scientists.
Lurikeen
02-28-2016, 08:42 PM
You guys are missing out. :(
Lurikeen
02-28-2016, 08:52 PM
What's wrong with nationalism?
Good rental car company when on the cheap.
She's saying that Trump's rise parallels Hitler's because it takes advantage of certain political conditions, namely tribalism and division in contemporary American politics. That's it.
Looks like you caught on a little too late to name your thread properly though.
Leave aside whether a direct comparison of Trump to Hitler is accurate. That is not my point. My point rather is about how a demagogic opportunist can exploit a divided country.
http://i.imgur.com/uQmbed0.jpg
Big_Japan
02-28-2016, 09:30 PM
She's saying that Trump's rise parallels Hitler's because it takes advantage of certain political conditions, namely tribalism and division in contemporary American politics. That's it.
Looks like you caught on a little too late to name your thread properly though.
http://i.imgur.com/uQmbed0.jpg
Don't think I can't quote you saying "I'm rooting for Donald Trump" just because you edited it out little man.
Don't think I can't quote you saying "I'm rooting for Donald Trump" just because you edited it out little man.
Rooting for Donald Trump to catalyze the destruction of the Republican party is one thing.
But then I remembered his entire campaign is everything that is wrong with politics and it really hurts everyone. Basically I wouldn't wish Donald Trump on my worst enemy.
Pokesan
02-28-2016, 09:43 PM
Rooting for Donald Trump to catalyze the destruction of the Republican party is one thing.
But then I remembered his entire campaign is everything that is wrong with politics and it really hurts everyone. Basically I wouldn't wish Donald Trump on my worst enemy.
The finest steel has to go through the hottest fire
KagatobLuvsAnimu
02-28-2016, 09:45 PM
Rooting for Donald Trump to catalyze the destruction of the Republican party is one thing.
But then I remembered his entire campaign is everything that is wrong with politics and it really hurts everyone. Basically I wouldn't wish Donald Trump on my worst enemy.
Honestly I don't think 4 years of TRUMP would be much different from 4 years of GHWB
Big_Japan
02-28-2016, 09:51 PM
Honestly I don't think 4 years of TRUMP would be much different from 4 years of George Sanders Obama Clinton-Bush
sad thing is this is probably true
still caucusing for TRUMP tho. The only one with even the theoretical possibility of being a human. If you're older than 18 and feel any other way you are one of the many who actually deserves his plastic fema coffin.
Lurikeen
02-28-2016, 09:52 PM
She's saying that Trump's rise parallels Hitler's because it takes advantage of certain political conditions, namely tribalism and division in contemporary American politics. That's it.
Looks like you caught on a little too late to name your thread properly though.
Well no, Captain Obvious, it looks like I ruffled your feathers and your ass is still hurting.
To give you a little grasp of what the writer was saying, she is pointing out that she understands how voters, much like you, can be so idiotic to give a vote for Trump. She's not very concerned about "tribalism" and a "division in contemporary American politics" as much as she is warning Americans of Trumps nationalism and populism , which I am not sure you understand anyway. You can't even comprehend the USA is a government by the people. So really, I am wasting my time on you. But if you think you have something intelligent to respond with, please do try. I love know it all like you.
She's not very concerned about ... "division in contemporary American politics" as much as she is warning Americans of Trumps nationalism and populism
Trump is rising by taking advantage of a divided country.
My point rather is about how a demagogic opportunist can exploit a divided country.
The truth is that the vast majority of voting Americans think that Trump is unacceptable as a presidential candidate, but we are split by strong partisan ideologies (TRIBALISM/DIVISION) and cannot coordinate a solution to stop him.
Embarrassing.
http://i.imgur.com/U6fg1mO.jpg
Big_Japan
02-28-2016, 09:59 PM
are you really picking apart lurikeen's posts? the man is a straight up mong
Xaanka
02-28-2016, 10:02 PM
im voting for whoever ends up running against Hilary in the primary election which may very well be trump. i haven't put much thought into it beyond that. maybe should have registered democrat so i could just vote against her in my state's primary or cuckus or w/e, but i don't really care enough to bother and all the people at the berry slander guys rallies seem really dirty. if im gonna be honest with myself im probably not gonna even bother to vote.
Big_Japan
02-28-2016, 10:03 PM
im voting for whoever ends up running against Hilary in the primary election which may very well be trump. i haven't put much thought into it beyond that. maybe should have registered democrat so i could just vote against her in my state's primary, but i don't really care enough to bother and all the people at the berry slander guys rallies seem really dirty. if im gonna be honest with myself im probably not gonna even bother to vote.
only place where 1 man = 1 vote still applies is on the battlefield. hope to see u there after TRUMPening
Lurikeen
02-28-2016, 10:05 PM
Embarrassing.
NO what is embarrassing is your inability to grasp what those terms are getting at. Any dumbass can point and click at words, it takes someone with intelligence to understand those words.
Xaanka
02-28-2016, 10:06 PM
im glad a bunch of idiots died for my right to not bother to vote
Lurikeen
02-28-2016, 10:27 PM
:cool:are you really picking apart lurikeen's posts? the man is a straight up mong
Your comment is hilarious for many reasons. "Reasons"... there's that word. What reasons do you have for voting Trump? Reasons? Yes, can you tell me how Trump will specifically fix health care in the USA? Can you tell me what specific plan Trump has for taxing the USA? Can you tell me the specific plan Trump has for building his wall that he vows Mexico will pay for?
Specifics.
Or shut the fuck up.
Vilkata
02-28-2016, 10:28 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C51AkwQLYo0
The answer to all our political problems.
Tasslehofp99
02-28-2016, 10:51 PM
http://http://www.newsday.com/news/nation/stony-brook-professor-if-donald-trump-gets-republican-nomination-he-ll-win-presidency-1.11517337 (http://www.newsday.com/news/nation/stony-brook-professor-if-donald-trump-gets-republican-nomination-he-ll-win-presidency-1.11517337)
looks like trump gonna be next prez, too late OP
Pokesan
02-28-2016, 10:56 PM
NO what is embarrassing is your inability to grasp what those terms are getting at. Any dumbass can point and click at words, it takes someone with intelligence to understand those words.
Lurikeen insists he's a genius, despite the obvious contradiction - his post history
mmmroo
02-28-2016, 11:37 PM
Hilary Clinton will win. predetermined, now calm down.
Big_Japan
02-28-2016, 11:52 PM
:cool:
Your comment is hilarious for many reasons. "Reasons"... there's that word. What reasons do you have for voting Trump? Reasons? Yes, can you tell me how Trump will specifically fix health care in the USA? Can you tell me what specific plan Trump has for taxing the USA? Can you tell me the specific plan Trump has for building his wall that he vows Mexico will pay for?
Specifics.
Or shut the fuck up.
Can you provide me "Reasons" why you think this would make a better president than someone who could theoretically be an actual human?
https://i.imgur.com/uinI04j.png
Specifics. And please don't say "he capitalizes on racism and xenophobia and he's a toxic demagogue" like his talent at politicking outside the ZOG narrative and recruiting idiot sheep rednecks to the cause of nationalism and away from militant Israel-worship is somehow a negative.
iruinedyourday
02-29-2016, 12:19 AM
cant wait to see the look on everyones face when the rep super delegates just evict trump from the campaign.
you realise thats the whole point of super dels to remove someone exactly like trump.
Id say there is less of a chance of him running than bernie.
Pokesan
02-29-2016, 12:40 AM
republican super delegates can't do that
The Republican Party has superdelegates, too, but they have a lot less power. GOP superdelegates are only about 7% of the nominating vote, and according to Republican convention rules, superdelegates must vote in accordance with their state primary outcomes.
iruinedyourday
02-29-2016, 12:45 AM
I think they can tho, why cant they?
iruinedyourday
02-29-2016, 12:49 AM
I started reading this but I totally lost interest.
http://www.infowars.com/how-the-republican-establishment-can-keep-donald-trump-from-getting-the-nomination/
AzzarTheGod
02-29-2016, 02:18 AM
Did not click link.
What's wrong with nationalism?
AzzarTheGod
02-29-2016, 02:32 AM
republican super delegates can't do that
Won't matter.
Of the total of 2,472 Republican delegates, 437 of them are unpledged delegates – and 168 of those are members of the Republican National Committee. And unless you have been hiding under a rock somewhere, you already know that the Republican National Committee is not a fan of Donald Trump. In order to win the Republican nomination without any of the unpledged delegates, Trump would need to win 60.78 percent of the delegates that are up for grabs during the caucuses and primaries. And considering that his poll support is hovering around 30 percent right now, that is a very tall order.
I don't think any RNC delegates will back Trump as long as Rubio (lesser extent Cruz) are polling well and doing well in the primaries.
That is a HUGE hurdle. The GOP doesn't need superdelegates to stop Trump from doing anything. Its a different party structure in some ways with different politics-- but SAME checks and balances as the Democrats.
In 2016, all states that hold caucuses or primaries before March 15th must award their delegates proportionally. So when Trump wins any of those early states, he won’t receive all of the delegates. Instead, he will just get a portion of them based on the percentage of the vote that he received.
In 2016, more delegates will be allocated on a proportional basis by the Republicans than ever before, and with such a crowded field that makes it quite likely that no candidate will have secured enough delegates for the nomination by the time the Republican convention rolls around.
And this actually plays right into the hands of the Republican establishment. A dinner for prominent Republican leaders that was held in Washington D.C. last week discussed the possibility of a “brokered convention” if they can keep Trump from getting the required number of delegates during the caucuses and primaries.
Absolutely heading for a brokered convention, where Rubio likely gets the nom. He is the most polished candidate, well-spoken, and "harmless".
Harmless factor is huge against a Hillary ticket. Rubio can pull crossover votes, Trump can't. RNC pushes Rubio as long as he maintains steam with the Koch bros. If Cruz and Trump somehow manage to destroy Rubio, that's about the only way I see Trump getting some of the RNC delegates to grudgingly give him the nom.
I don't think its possible for Rubio to blow himself up.
Big_Japan
02-29-2016, 04:46 AM
the idea that rubio might still go anywhere after what christie did to him makes me physically ill. don't forget to TRUMP every single day my brothers
maskedmelon
02-29-2016, 11:32 AM
While Trump has indeed secured his fair share of our fine society's retards, the ret of his support is actually extraordinarily diversified among proponents if varied ideologies whose only commonality is a shared distaste for the irrational accommodation of political correctness wherein reason is treason.
And as for him espousing aspects of nationalism and socialism, yeah the author isn't the first to make that connection.
Orruar
02-29-2016, 12:35 PM
If it's Trump v. Sanders, it will be a nationalist/socialist election.
Daywolf
02-29-2016, 03:15 PM
Absolutely heading for a brokered convention, where Rubio likely gets the nom. Win the nomination but lose the election. Rubio is a pinhead. If the RINO's pull such a pleb move and steal the nomination flat out, it's the end of the party that was formed as a protest movement against slavery (absorbing the whig party), now trying to enslave their own party into their own form of chains.
Friggin republicrats and their two faced one ball derp moves, always in surrender mode unless it's against their own party majority which they happily stomp on at every opportunity.
Pokesan
02-29-2016, 03:22 PM
Captain Trump: Civil War
the south is rising again
Daywolf
02-29-2016, 03:52 PM
Captain Trump: Civil War
Well I'm not saying TRUMP here specifically. I think if given the opportunity, the RINO's would nuke Cruz just the same. Though some of them would maybe vote for him vs Hillary, some anyway.
the south is rising againI... I'm not speaking of the Democrat party. Breaking the economic, political and sociological chains of the Dems, more of an issue in this election (which Rubio or Jeb would never try to unravel). Maybe if the Dems had owned up and apologize for their parties ties to that era of actual slavery, rather than pointing the finger as if they were never the slave party, while continuing to project the slave mentality, well maybe we wouldn't be in the big mess the country is in now.
Pokesan
02-29-2016, 03:59 PM
yes. after the civil rights success in the 60s, southern democrats switched parties. i'm not sure how you think this is a good thing for the GOP.
iruinedyourday
02-29-2016, 03:59 PM
Wow So I was watching JOilver last night and he did a BIG piece on Trump.
What I thought was interesting was, despite him implying it was an attack piece on him, it was actually... a fluff piece for him!
Here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnpO_RTSNmQ
At about two and a half minuets in I was laughing and thinking how much I actually liked trumps campaign. Then I realised oh wait, John is going to turn this around and make me realise how dumb I am for following someone who in all likeliness will run this country into the ground.
But after the entire segment ended, I realised he didn't once make me think that. It showed quite clearly why we dont like any of the other candidates (bernie not counted of course) why Trump is doing so well and didnt make me think it was becues of idiots blindly following him.
It just showed that, he doesnt give a shit about the way we run politics right now.
It showed how he may not be the most qualified, but it showed that his campaign doesnt need a qualified man to run in 2016. We want someone who hates the way the system is run.
So, in the end, Trump will in all likeliness win in 2016, unless we get bernie up against him, I dont think anything trump is going to do vs what hillary would do would actually be that much worse.
TL:DR Even john oliver couldn't argue in a 6 minuet clip, why you really shouldn't vote for trump.
Pokesan
02-29-2016, 04:05 PM
i wasn't convinced either, feels like both sides of the political establishment are having an 'all hands on deck' moment panicking over Trump's current success. Shame on JO for participating, just be a funnyjokeman please
KagatobLuvsAnimu
02-29-2016, 04:40 PM
Wow So I was watching JOilver last night
That's part of the problem right here.
We want someone who hates the way the system is run.
He really truly doesn't give a shit about the system or improving it though. Yea, he hates the system, so do we. Cool. That's as far as it goes. Nearly everything he'd actually do would just make things worse. And that's assuming he could do anything at all, having alienated both Democrats and his own party which rules Congress (which may even be changing soon because Dems actually vote in the quadrennial elections).
Trump is nearly as bad a liar as Clinton, constantly changing, obscuring, and contradicting his own views, metamorphosing depending upon whether he's currently speaking in a Republican debate, or in Iowa.
Big J & pals make really good points about the select few things that are admirable about Trump, but those are ultimately horrible reasons to elect someone president of the United States.
I'm still torn about whether he is actually worse than Hillary, but I know one thing: Trump is an asshole, and a shitty candidate.
Daywolf
02-29-2016, 05:00 PM
yes. after the civil rights success in the 60s, southern democrats switched parties. i'm not sure how you think this is a good thing for the GOP.Wouldn't really effect anything since both dem and rep support was nominal in the south. Then of course there was Robert Byrd, a Dem, and a once effective reciter for the KKK, even pro-KKK during his political career, who filibustered the civil rights act for 57 days which was condemned by republican senate leader Everett Dirksen regarding the democrat filibuster against the civil rights act.
Pokesan
02-29-2016, 05:19 PM
that's neat but not really the point. racist southern voters once voted democrat, now they vote republican.
the way you write makes me worried that you have neurological problems, gandalf.
Daywolf
02-29-2016, 05:38 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/moment-of-truth-we-must-stop-trump/2016/02/21/0172e788-d8a7-11e5-925f-1d10062cc82d_story.html
"Danielle Allen is a political theorist at Harvard University and a contributing columnist for The Post."
"from Harvard with a Ph.D. in Government in 2001"
Wait, they let chicks into skull and bones now?
http://i.imgur.com/qG8ZPRm.jpg
:D
that's neat but not really the point. racist southern voters once voted democrat, now they vote republican.
the way you write makes me worried that you have neurological problems, gandalf.Now?? gawd, over 100yrs of democrat racism and to this day, and suddenly they are non-racist saints all the real racists going to the rep party? Maybe time for you to use another alice in wonderland reference? Though I'd point you to huck finn and a little fence whitewashing there for you.
Spyder73
02-29-2016, 05:46 PM
The republican party is in complete disarray. I heard some quotes about Trump making fun of Rubios ear, Rubio making fun of Donalds face…the whole thing sounds like a junior high presidential election. None of these guys are qualified to lead our country.
Where the f#ck are the ex-military generals and economic studs at? Government is a complete joke right now – Never thought I would miss Dubya – But I do
Pokesan
02-29-2016, 05:56 PM
Now?? gawd, over 100yrs of democrat racism and to this day, and suddenly they are non-racist saints all the real racists going to the rep party? Maybe time for you to use another alice in wonderland reference? Though I'd point you to huck finn and a little fence whitewashing there for you.
how many strokes have you had, muad'dib?
Daywolf
02-29-2016, 06:07 PM
how many strokes have you had, muad'dib?
"Alice In Wonderland Syndrome and Stroke
Treato found (https://treato.com/Alice+In+Wonderland+Syndrome,Stroke/?a=s) 10 discussions about Stroke and Alice In Wonderland Syndrome on the web.
Symptoms and conditions also mentioned with Alice In Wonderland Syndrome in patients' discussions"
Ahhh that explains it now. You know, you can seek treatment for that, right? Please do get some help, no one should suffer so :)
Ahldagor
03-01-2016, 12:52 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcuMqreUDBY
iruinedyourday
03-01-2016, 01:47 AM
He really truly doesn't give a shit about the system or improving it though. Yea, he hates the system, so do we. Cool. That's as far as it goes. Nearly everything he'd actually do would just make things worse. And that's assuming he could do anything at all, having alienated both Democrats and his own party which rules Congress (which may even be changing soon because Dems actually vote in the quadrennial elections).
Trump is nearly as bad a liar as Clinton, constantly changing, obscuring, and contradicting his own views, metamorphosing depending upon whether he's currently speaking in a Republican debate, or in Iowa.
Big J & pals make really good points about the select few things that are admirable about Trump, but those are ultimately horrible reasons to elect someone president of the United States.
I'm still torn about whether he is actually worse than Hillary, but I know one thing: Trump is an asshole, and a shitty candidate.
as far as life as we know it right now? He is definitely worse than Hillary.. but if you hate life as we know it now, hes definitely better.
He will cause waves and problems that would at least get people more involved in politics, because they'd have to be, which arguably in the long run could be more healthy for america, than just a slow decline of our interest in the system, politics, or anything that has any day to day effect on our lives thats out of our control. AKA a hillary presidency
I mean, idk why people are having such a hard time figuring out why hes winning with the repubs. A party that shuts down the government, doesnt think the president has any power, hates the establishment... what is suprising for everyone?
You think they care that he flip flops ore lies or what have you? they think thats the whole system RIGHT NOW it doesnt matter that he does.
KagatobLuvsAnimu
03-01-2016, 02:15 AM
No, TRUMP is not worse than Shillary literally any way that you try to swing it. Anything negative you can attach to TRUMP you can attach at least tenfold to Shillary.
iruinedyourday
03-01-2016, 02:29 AM
I just hope that fuckn hillary doesnt make us accept the loss of bernie all the way up to the deadline, at which point he still wins, and weve all decided to vote for trump instead. :(
Daywolf
03-01-2016, 02:58 AM
at least tenfold to Shillary.
http://i.imgur.com/4heup8o.gif
and weve all decided to vote for trump instead. :(
http://i.imgur.com/uH8ruHQ.jpg
iruinedyourday
03-01-2016, 02:59 AM
say what you will about the 2016 elections, they sure brought the two sides closer together than they have in a long time.
Spyder73
03-01-2016, 10:37 AM
say what you will about the 2016 elections, they sure brought the two sides closer together than they have in a long time.
People coming together in mutual terror is not a healthy thing
Pokesan
03-01-2016, 11:10 AM
People coming together in mutual terror is not a healthy thing
lol a spyder post that made me laugh :D
sOurDieSel
03-02-2016, 01:11 PM
Affirmative Action Feminist Mulatto Author of slanderous hit-piece defaming the outstanding moral character of The Glorious Leader. (http://libertyunyield.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Harvard-prof-Danielle-Allen-725x375.jpg)
mmmroo
03-10-2016, 03:27 AM
Trump is for torture, America is not supposed to be for torture. If anyone is for Trump it means they are for torture. Bernie Sanders is not for torture, Clinton is for torture.
If Clinton or Trump win, America will become a new Nazi regime. But against muslims instead of Jews.
Simple if you really think about it.
AzzarTheGod
03-10-2016, 05:41 AM
and weve all decided to vote for trump instead. :(
Embrace it. Sanders ran as a dem, its a lost cause. This world just ain't ready for a 3rd party run.
sOurDieSel
03-10-2016, 01:37 PM
lol @ all the libcucks afraid of a Fourth Reich.
Lets all call Trump a Nazi and completely ignore the fact that Sanders is literally a Zio-Communist and Clinton is under investigation for what most Americans would consider treason.
As far as i'm concerned anyone who isn't an American Citizen doesn't have any Constitutional Rights thus rendering watering-boarding a viable options when it comes to extracting information that would possible save American lives. Lets not forget that Obama signed the NDAA authorizing such action ON AMERICAN CITIZENS and routinely drone strikes enemy combatants, (some of whom happen to be Americans) which is literally an execution without due process, far worse than waterboarding.
phacemeltar
03-10-2016, 02:39 PM
Trump is for torture, America is not supposed to be for torture. If anyone is for Trump it means they are for torture. Bernie Sanders is not for torture, Clinton is for torture.
If Clinton or Trump win, America will become a new Nazi regime. But against muslims instead of Jews.
Simple if you really think about it.
hitler didnt only kill jews. he started with jews to gain national support, then expanded his reach to all non-whites. had he not been stopped, there is no telling who else would have been eliminated.
i think youre right, tho. i want to see trumps stance on native americans, sounds hilarious.
edit: nevermind, he calls them mexicans
Daywolf
03-10-2016, 03:29 PM
If anyone is for Trump it means they are for torture.
*raises hand* me! me! me!
A lil torture can be goog :D
http://i.imgur.com/e2HFZRO.jpg
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