Materialism, Spirituality, Existentialism, and You

[maerilith]

Well, there's been a lot of shaming going on here from buddhist people so I would like to clear something up...

How the universe works like this... get ur spirit right ,and you can do anything, wealth, happiness, physical joy will come to you as you ascend on this physical plane.

U can attain that in negative and karmicly bad ways, but it's hard, and painful, and creates suffering, perhaps your own your going to endure....

So, I started to get myself right and after that the good things, transitioning, learning, making friends, exercising, jobs, they started coming 2 me with ease.

So yeah, u can hate on people, who are happy and working hard and loving life or are lucky and doing good. But that's bad, because YOU ARE BEING MEAN.

And if cosmetic surgeries make someone happy, and keep the circle of life going, so what? cosmetic is just a definition, need is just a definition of human concept.

There is no right or wrong here...

But there is a lot of confusion... like for example bigJ think that people "think they should transition because of XYZ (dumb reasons they think) well... no the freedom to transition easily and happy comes along when you aren't spiritually retarded sista...

Sorry if this post triggurd u (not rly)

Anyway I'm goin bed, got some goog levels and talked to old friends on r99pvp tonight, life goog, feel me?

[Daywolf]

Being a meanie makes ma happy, "YOU ARE BEING MEAN"!
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[maerilith]

Being a meanie make ma happy, "YOU ARE BEING MEAN"!
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I'm just sayin if you want to go to irlend, it don't hurt to put up a good poster of were u wanna go, think possitive thoughts about being there, learn the language, and save for it


more often then not life, the universe and everything is going to present an opportunity or two


Being mean is your thing I can't stop you i dont want to stop people being mean

I don't like meanies tho and just my warning meanies is just going to waste a lot of extra energy you could have spent being happy :D

Also that dog is happey lawl

[Daywolf]

I'm just sayin if you want to go to irlend, it don't hurt to put up a good poster of were u wanna go, think possitive thoughts about being there, learn the language, and save for it


more often then not life, the universe and everything is going to present an opportunity or two


Being mean is your thing I can't stop you i dont want to stop people being mean

I don't like meanies tho and just my warning meanies is just going to waste a lot of extra energy you could have spent being happy :D

Also that dog is happey lawl
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[maerilith]

i'm not on ur lawn plebe (in fact I donated to keep this game/forum running and buy Rogean a Ferrari)

so.... i have as much right to speak here according to the rules and wishes of the staff as anyone else

also daywolf, let me halp you go to USER CP>IGNORE (http://www.project1999.com/forums/profile.php?do=ignorelist)

enter the letters maerilith (one L)

should autopopulate... hit enter and confirm the little poppup and then u don't have to be an angry butthurt old man

[Daywolf]

i'm not on ur lawn plebe (in fact I donated to keep this game/forum running and buy Rogean a Ferrari)

so.... i have as much right to speak here according to the rules and wishes of the staff as anyone else
See, your philosophy could never work, you can't handle it ;)
You'll never be happy unless everyone else is eliminated.
Happiness is over rated, fleeting, and it's not guaranteed, can only be pursued.

[maerilith]

See, your philosophy could never work, you can't handle it ;)
You'll never be happy unless everyone else is eliminated.
Happiness is over rated, fleeting, and it's not guaranteed, can only be pursued.

well i'm pursuing my own damn happiness i hope thats okay with u

but if not i'm not rly sorry like i was saying :p

[Big_Japan]

There is no right or wrong here...

right and wrong don't matter in the wooods (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLfKinfpmFs&feature=youtu.be&t=58s) - only feelings let us meet the moment unblushed!

life is often so unpleasant. u must know that as a peasant

[maerilith]

cinderella my fav movie :D

[Daywolf]

well i'm pursuing my own damn happiness i hope thats okay with u

but if not i'm not rly sorry like i was saying :p
Big J stole my coming quote :p
It's contradictory. OP seems to more so reflects narcissism. If their pursuit of happiness conflicts with yours, or isn't something that makes you happy, then you may shout "mean" at them. Who are you to say that's wrong?

Maybe some people don't want spirituality, such as Penn Jillette, but he's happy, doesn't follow such a philosophy at all. And you know what? He gets along with people that are spiritual too, even as an Atheist as he is.

You see, happiness is nothing, it's fleeting, such as your baby rattle that long since quit making you happy. Only joy is lasting, spiritual or not, but not in yourself, only in others. The rest in about meaningless, fleeting, can even be narcissistic, just like those string of images I posted before the get off my lawn.

[Big_Japan]

happiness is fleeting. only these guns are here every morning no matter how dark the last night was. *flexes and winks at you*

[maerilith]

Big J stole my coming quote :p
It's contradictory. OP seems to more so reflects narcissism. If their pursuit of happiness conflicts with yours, or isn't something that makes you happy, then you may shout "mean" at them. Who are you to say that's wrong?

Maybe some people don't want spirituality, such as Penn Jillette, but he's happy, doesn't follow such a philosophy at all. And you know what? He gets along with people that are spiritual too, even as an Atheist as he is.

You see, happiness is nothing, it's fleeting, such as your baby rattle that long since quit making you happy. Only joy is lasting, spiritual or not, but not in yourself, only in others. The rest in about meaningless, fleeting, can even be narcissistic, just like those string of images I posted before the get off my lawn.


wooo daywolf come down.. sit sit boy sit


I'm not argueing this phillosophy, i'm argueing the point about exissetentially not needing anything "physical" to attain happiness

no one "needs" dat physical, but that physical does take care of those that aren't mad butthurts

Can't speak for the massive butthurts, some seem to do ok, but i'm not in their brains, and I don't get to live the moment of their death... so IDK what they regret or fear or if they sleep well

Anyway, if you use some modicum of rationality when you go "MEAN UR MEAN!!!" you get more leverage then if your just "I FEEL THREATENED BY YOU BUT YOUR NOT DOING ANYTHING TO ME, I'M JUST MAD AND CONFUSED, YOUR MEAN"

The dudes most upset by me... are the dudes most confused typically about thesmelves. Just sayin

but like this logic is all circular, your looking outside yourself, be selfish and u'll see what i'm tryin to say... it doesn't matter the meannesss outside of u, u got to be nice to urself and those you care for and care for what your heart cares for not what your brain is telling u need to 2 do to survive

[maerilith]

happiness is fleeting. only these guns are here every morning no matter how dark the last night was. *flexes and winks at you*

it's cold, going to snuggle with my pillows (face under blanket) and dream about another nite in some warm cuddly arms

[Daywolf]

So, I started to get myself right and after that the good things, transitioning, learning, making friends, exercising, jobs, they started coming 2 me with ease.

So yeah, u can hate on people, who are happy and working hard and loving life or are lucky and doing good. But that's bad, because YOU ARE BEING MEAN.
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[maerilith]

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Wait... you have a job?!?
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I'm a bit confused at wut your trying 2 illustrate. abstract this..

I was sad depressed suicidal in my own pity pool

I sought enlightenment and help and love my life sucked... but I kept trying to find good and be good

I kept an open mind and learned a ton of cool metaphysical shit I allowed myself to start believe ing in a better future and I started to havev gratitude for what I was left with.

well that freed me up to crawl out of bed and go outside.

that freed me up to go to the beach

that gave me motivation to keep living etc

then I find myself in school and then working...none of which are goals in and of themselves but stepping stones... but I'm finding I want to be there because I want to be there...

not because I'm supposed to be or have 2 be or should or need.. but because that's where I am being me now...

k this is hard to stream of consciousness mode over the cellphone txt.

but the correlation of the two aren't a causation.

I just had to figure out were I wanted to be and believe it was possible then so easy to just step towards that state and be

there's some gr8 books on this (thoughb I am infurnced by esoteric stuff)

[maerilith]

Sleepy Times :D

it's ok ur married bigj. luv u anyway n u helped me smile and be excited so thx

[AxerJ]

Seems to me that people who get really talkity about spirituality and their metaphysical revelations just want to talk. Maybe they have a need to say some things, to express, to speak. I think we all sort of need opportunities to speak, to share what we think. And this spirituality stuff is a really, really safe subject matter - it's all love. Can't really say someone's wrong there. So it's safe to go balls out and start expressing yourself. And there, a need is being satisfied. Maybe not the core need, but it's a step there; it's developing to the real truth. And that's helpful.

I have nothing against the new, modern, popular, western spirituality - if people want to share about love, great. But Daywolf points out something key - those people can often get touchy and judgmental about anyone else's point of view if it's not just "love love love". And that isn't love. So it's a tricky thing. But as far as trends go, I think it's a positive thing. I try to just enjoy the positivity from these people and really express truth to them - they're saying they can take it, so give it to em!

Edit: I'm definitely talking out of my ass for a lot of that.

[AxerJ]

Bitchtits; this subject matter is a lure for bitchcraft. So hard to not be a douche and type this shit.

[maerilith]

Yeah, I'm still plenty cynical. I don't try to push the love thing on other people and I'll bitchtitt at them to have safespace.

but ppl invariably always want to know how I'm so certain and self actualized and bamb... check out how cool not being a fucking tool is.....

[Trollhide]

How the universe works like this... get ur spirit right ,and you can do anything, wealth, happiness, physical joy will come to you as you ascend on this physical plane.

U can attain that in negative and karmicly bad ways, but it's hard, and painful, and creates suffering, perhaps your own your going to endure....

This is some crazy shit.

The universe means nothing, it's a fart in the wind. There is no god, no karma, no reincarnation, no jedi force, no heaven, no hell.

You exist for a short while and then you don't, and nothing that ever happens in our little blue corner of the universe has ever or will ever matter one whit.

Suppress your human ego's misguided thirst for a reason to exist, for a greater purpose that isn't there, and you will realize that everything and anything boils down to this:

YOLO


get necro'd

[maerilith]

This is some crazy shit.

The universe means nothing, it's a fart in the wind. There is no god, no karma, no reincarnation, no jedi force, no heaven, no hell.

You exist for a short while and then you don't, and nothing that ever happens in our little blue corner of the universe has ever or will ever matter one whit.

Suppress your human ego's misguided thirst for a reason to exist, for a greater purpose that isn't there, and you will realize that everything and anything boils down to this:

YOLO


get necro'd

agreed carpe diem is brilliant

the best people in life are free as taylor swift says :D

but by extension formulating our own beliefs and ideas whether farts in the wind that support freedom and happiness in our lives is a good thing, fart in the wind or not :D (and by extension I mean also others when I say our (through sharing, compassion, commonality, oneness, leadership, and example))

try to keep an open mind, anything is possible, we can never know all the truths and minutia in our lifetime, but it's nice to have an appreciation for the complexity and potential meaning of the universe when it's our own or accepted by us through openness.

It's ok to have a simple YOLO life though. I can't help myself from thinking deeper though.

by extension we give meaning to this fart in the wind by farting in the wind

my farts smell like roses :D and roses and daises and and lavender and all sorts of wonderful flowers spring up around my fart clouds in the fairy forests of my dreams

[Ennewi]

right and wrong don't matter in the wooods (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLfKinfpmFs&feature=youtu.be&t=58s) - only feelings let us meet the moment unblushed!

No, no, no. this is not right! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gLN3QoN-q8)

[maerilith]

Is it possible both, or neither may or may not be right? Or that rightness depends on context and that sometimes one may be right and one may be wrong or sometimes both may be right or wrong? Or the infinite combinations.

IDIC.

[Ahldagor]

Trying to formulate a character post nihilism? Is this early punk rock marketing?

[maerilith]

Trying to formulate a character post nihilism? Is this early punk rock marketing?

I wish I understood. But yeah, it's kind of hip and cool, I guess?

[Trollhide]

I don't know anything about early punk rock marketing, it's just the world as I see it from a broader perspective

[Ahldagor]

I wish I understood. But yeah, it's kind of hip and cool, I guess?

Nope. Just more pseudo-metaphysics espised like The Secret or some Randian politic. Where's the guiding ethic?

[Spyder73]

No ones forum persona confuses me more than dear Maerilith

[maerilith]

No ones forum persona confuses me more than dear Maerilith

Mere mortal men may know the scope and breadth of the earth and travel to other stars and far distant worlds.

But the mind of the goddess surrounding all in her milky embrace is eternal and infinite.

[Ahldagor]

Mere mortal men may know the scope and breadth of the earth and travel to other stars and far distant worlds.

But the mind of the goddess surrounding all in her milky embrace is eternal and infinite.

No. Your stance in this thread is a promotion of selfish gains at the expense of others through a self-centered ethic that will delineate positivity, confidence, and a myriad of other valuated adjectives. In short, it does not build anything but an appearance, thoroughly believed, that collapses under any legitimate scrutiny (what the generation that's currently holding political power promoted). So the question then becomes if promotion of a believed self is promotion of a truth then what is one to do when that promoted truth is invalidated?

[maerilith]

No. Your stance in this thread is a promotion of selfish gains at the expense of others through a self-centered ethic that will delineate positivity, confidence, and a myriad of other valuated adjectives. In short, it does not build anything but an appearance, thoroughly believed, that collapses under any legitimate scrutiny (what the generation that's currently holding political power promoted). So the question then becomes if promotion of a believed self is promotion of a truth then what is one to do when that promoted truth is invalidated?

I would like to point out that I perhaps don't quite understand your perspective, I'm not as learned as you are. I think I have a more simplistic and perhaps childish way of expressing my point of view.

>>>Your wasting your time if your trying to invalidate other peoples selfs lol.

Needless to say I can see how you see it that way (scary).

I'm not telling people how to go about generating their self identity and how that applies to themselves and others. I'm saying (and I think) I changed my perspective a bit.

>Do what you want to do, within reason, and try to understand, learn from, incorporate, and respect others along the way, it generates the best possible results.

I certainly don't think complete narcissism is a good thing. I honestly think there is something in our nature that generally makes us do well unto others. Even if it makes us ignore or do horrible things to people far far away through our ignorance. But that changes through understanding and self improvement.

There are people who are warped and hurt and who have it in their nature to be horrible. But telling them to change their nature is dumb. It's better to have it in our nature to be aware of them and cope with them in healthy ways.

So my self centric point of view isn't a kind of black and white, 1 or zero, manifest destiny sort of view.

It's important to have a heart. But you won't ever find that heart pretending that yours belongs to others.

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