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drelk001
03-13-2016, 03:55 AM
So, P99 is in Velious? when are they going to make a recycle server? maybe run the game in the same time like live? same timeline?
What I think they should do is try to make a server using the old client instead this time around.
or at least launch the damn discord server lol
white
03-13-2016, 05:13 AM
I second this and i speak for everyone btw...
white
03-13-2016, 05:14 AM
Project next since the other has one nail in the coffin...
Daywolf
03-13-2016, 06:04 AM
I'd like the original client too, but crazy hard to do and likely wouldn't work on 80% of existing players computers.
Anyway, they were talking about the next pve server last month while they were discussing discord in a stream. Maybe later this year. Velious aint even done yet, so think that comes first.
Swish
03-13-2016, 06:17 PM
Have you considered the P99 alternative server?
drelk001
03-13-2016, 06:19 PM
Have you considered the P99 alternative server?
waht?
drelk001
03-13-2016, 06:20 PM
I mainly want to see the Old Trilogy client
Korben
03-13-2016, 07:27 PM
Have you considered the P99 alternative server?
Wat?
Baler
03-13-2016, 08:27 PM
Consider the following...
http://i.imgur.com/SjniABv.png
Swish
03-13-2016, 09:40 PM
waht?
Wat?
;);)
http://i.imgur.com/Rbw9NHK.gif
Anderdale
03-13-2016, 11:40 PM
Recycle server should be role play only. I want to immerse!
Daywolf
03-14-2016, 05:32 AM
Recycle server should be role play only. I want to immerse!Immersion play and role play are actually considered two different things. RP isn't exactly immersive, you are not putting 'yourslef' into the game, not like feeling you are there or mesmerized like some VR headset might do. RP is acting out a character, unlike yourself, weaving a story or situational acting, usually with other RPers. The two camps often times actually conflict in games, the immersion players vs. the role players.
Zels Bastard
03-14-2016, 05:40 AM
consider the following. also im pretty drunk. it might not make any sense
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKDkvy9sKuY
drelk001
03-14-2016, 06:42 AM
ROFL
I have played red for a while, mainly filled with supertwinks.
I did like it but I didnt have twink gear so I coundly even compete.
I wouldnt mind playing an RP server, in fact that would be awesome.
mainly I want a server that stops at velious, but takes a while to get to there. Classic is a great era.
I didnt discover P99 until they were in Kunark so I couldnt play classic but I think it would be fun to see it with the classical touch they have now (I have seen footage where the skeletons were the recent graphics, Spell particles and such.)
What I REALLY want though, and I know it will be hard to do is play classic... on a classic client.
P99 devs, maybe this can help you out for a bit? or maybe as a first start? IDK, I dont have any programming background so I cant figure any of this stuff out lol
https://newagesoldier.com/everquest-classic-source-code-eqclassic-org/
and
https://github.com/EQMacEmu/Server/commits/trilogy
drktmplr12
03-14-2016, 08:38 AM
What I REALLY want though, and I know it will be hard to do is play classic... on a classic client.
this would be the equivalent to starting over, except you have a large sum of crowdsourced data in the form of a SQL database now. Notwithstanding- insane amount of work.
Spyder73
03-14-2016, 10:06 AM
I think it would be more fun if they did a recycle server but launched with Velious live. Pure classic is completely overrated
drelk001
03-14-2016, 01:13 PM
I have OCD... level 50 works :P level 60 doesnt start with a 5 or a 10 :P
which is odd, because I dont mind a levle 20cap :P
Swish
03-14-2016, 02:04 PM
What about the recycled lost dungeons of norrath on the moon with PoP AAs?
iruinedyourday
03-14-2016, 02:10 PM
I sure hope Re99 is Teams.
I hope this cus, it adds challenge to a game that we've all figured out how to dominate.
I hope this cus, at the end when you choose to transfer your character and the re99 server starts over, you can choose to put it on red or blue.
I hope this cus Id really like to see all the blue competitive raiders compete with the addition of PvP.. not to see them suffer, but because I think they would really really enjoy it.
And I hope this, cus I need the added element of pvp to really enjoy eq properly, it just is more fun to be able to fuck around with people than just chat with them <3
drelk001
03-14-2016, 02:11 PM
What about the recycled lost dungeons of norrath on the moon with PoP AAs?
https://media.giphy.com/media/POql6zsXZbmcE/giphy.gif
Alzafan
03-14-2016, 02:32 PM
Is a fresh server (roleplay or otherwise) something the devs are actually considering? Because if so, that's really cool, but is the server pop high enough to handle that sort of thing?
thufir
03-14-2016, 02:41 PM
Is a fresh server (roleplay or otherwise) something the devs are actually considering? Because if so, that's really cool, but is the server pop high enough to handle that sort of thing?
only in an abstract sense. they're on record as saying p99 green (the recycle server that starts from the beginning) is gonna be years in the making.
discord should be sooner, but it was supposed to come out in january. and that's pvp anyway with an odd rule set so it shouldn't suck people away from blue server too much. most people who play discord won't be on it for too long due to permadeath.
drelk001
03-17-2016, 03:30 PM
is there a way to start your own private server with the trilogy client, not public just like LAN?
Keep in mind, I have no programming background lol.
Swish
03-17-2016, 03:31 PM
is there a way to start your own private server with the trilogy client, not public just like LAN?
Keep in mind, I have no programming background lol.
www.eqemulator.org
No doubt there is, I'd ask on the forums there :)
drelk001
03-17-2016, 03:32 PM
www.eqemulator.org
No doubt there is, I'd ask on the forums there :)
ROFL I was in the middle of doing that lol
drelk001
03-18-2016, 08:04 AM
www.eqemulator.org
No doubt there is, I'd ask on the forums there :)
yeah They just said
"Nope"
The problem is that I know people who have trilogy servers but when I ask them how they did it they either don't answer or they start speaking another language :P
Swish
03-18-2016, 11:39 AM
What about the white colored servers on the EQemu list with 1 person playing? Something doesn't add up there... its gotta be possible, just have it live but keep it locked from anyone else joining.
drelk001
03-18-2016, 11:49 AM
like a trilogy server, pretty much they said that EQclassic.org has been trying for like 10 years with no results other than a promise that will never happen :P
Swish
03-18-2016, 11:58 AM
P99 and most/all other servers on EQemu are PEQ clones right? Just heavily modified and with irrelevant mobs taken out, zones switched back etc.
Til then I guess you just have to work with the Titanium client and basically do what P99 has done :( For the sake of whatever you want to do privately on what you make, would a stock PEQ download be so bad? If it's for roaming zones etc.
drelk001
03-18-2016, 12:09 PM
I mainly just want to dick around on the trilogy/classic client, with the old stone UI and the mirror when you open your inventory. I understand it would be super buggy and all sorts of fuggered up but yeah.
mgellan
03-18-2016, 05:32 PM
is there a way to start your own private server with the trilogy client, not public just like LAN?
Keep in mind, I have no programming background lol.
No, the current eqemu code has no support for Trilogy. There is some sporadic work going on with the Trilogy client by a few people on the EQEmulator forums including myself. I have source for a fork of the EQMac code that supposedly is partially working with Trilogy but it keeps core dumping, haven't had a chance to get it working for testing. Mostly it's a ton of learning curve to understand how eqemu network code works before you can even start understanding whats different in Trilogy. I've spent a few evenings beating my head against that particular wall :)
FWIW the code is at:
https://github.com/EQMacEmu/Server/tree/trilogy
Unfortunately the changes required for Trilogy aren't documented at all, and Trilogy UDP packets are weird so hard to reverse engineer. My approach right now is once I understand how Trilogy is sending packets I can write a adapter to take Trilogy opcodes in and send it to a more modern version of the eqemu code, and interpret what comes back and send it on to Trilogy. That means you can put a regular eqemu server up but Trilogy clients can talk to it without needing to fork the eqemu code to add Trilogy support. And it would work with existing servers like P99. Slow going tho!
TL;DR Seems possible, partially done, don't hold your breath :)
Regards,
Mg
drelk001
03-18-2016, 08:23 PM
No, the current eqemu code has no support for Trilogy. There is some sporadic work going on with the Trilogy client by a few people on the EQEmulator forums including myself. I have source for a fork of the EQMac code that supposedly is partially working with Trilogy but it keeps core dumping, haven't had a chance to get it working for testing. Mostly it's a ton of learning curve to understand how eqemu network code works before you can even start understanding whats different in Trilogy. I've spent a few evenings beating my head against that particular wall :)
FWIW the code is at:
https://github.com/EQMacEmu/Server/tree/trilogy
Unfortunately the changes required for Trilogy aren't documented at all, and Trilogy UDP packets are weird so hard to reverse engineer. My approach right now is once I understand how Trilogy is sending packets I can write a adapter to take Trilogy opcodes in and send it to a more modern version of the eqemu code, and interpret what comes back and send it on to Trilogy. That means you can put a regular eqemu server up but Trilogy clients can talk to it without needing to fork the eqemu code to add Trilogy support. And it would work with existing servers like P99. Slow going tho!
TL;DR Seems possible, partially done, don't hold your breath :)
Regards,
Mg
looked at the link
https://media.giphy.com/media/VXCPgZwEP7f1e/giphy-downsized-large.gif
mgellan
03-23-2016, 12:48 PM
http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/breakfast/img/stories/20150211_me_neither_meme_450.jpg
Aalderon Crystafire
03-23-2016, 01:24 PM
No, the current eqemu code has no support for Trilogy. There is some sporadic work going on with the Trilogy client by a few people on the EQEmulator forums including myself. I have source for a fork of the EQMac code that supposedly is partially working with Trilogy but it keeps core dumping, haven't had a chance to get it working for testing. Mostly it's a ton of learning curve to understand how eqemu network code works before you can even start understanding whats different in Trilogy. I've spent a few evenings beating my head against that particular wall :)
FWIW the code is at:
https://github.com/EQMacEmu/Server/tree/trilogy
Unfortunately the changes required for Trilogy aren't documented at all, and Trilogy UDP packets are weird so hard to reverse engineer. My approach right now is once I understand how Trilogy is sending packets I can write a adapter to take Trilogy opcodes in and send it to a more modern version of the eqemu code, and interpret what comes back and send it on to Trilogy. That means you can put a regular eqemu server up but Trilogy clients can talk to it without needing to fork the eqemu code to add Trilogy support. And it would work with existing servers like P99. Slow going tho!
TL;DR Seems possible, partially done, don't hold your breath :)
Regards,
Mg
ILY. Keep you what you're doing~
fugazi
03-23-2016, 01:27 PM
http://i.imgur.com/q6vCApt.gif
drelk001
03-23-2016, 01:47 PM
what we need is a way to make a server by just opening a program lol
I wish that DBG would just open a EQ classic server using the classic client :P
would play it.
Thurgrim
03-23-2016, 02:47 PM
A true classic server would never work unless all players agree to not use web resources, although even on live beta testers had a jump on general population, after initial release.
How it happened on Mith Marr server.... we raided Vox/Nag/Fear/Hate with garbage gear (but good for that time) within the first 6 months post-release, it was a multi guild effort. Eventually some of those folks decided to create a guild with raiding as their focus (Afterlife). Im sure it worked the same way on other servers.
At least thats how I remember it!
drelk001
03-23-2016, 02:56 PM
A true classic server would never work unless all players agree to not use web resources, although even on live beta testers had a jump on general population, after initial release.
How it happened on Mith Marr server.... we raided Vox/Nag/Fear/Hate with garbage gear (but good for that time) within the first 6 months post-release, it was a multi guild effort. Eventually some of those folks decided to create a guild with raiding as their focus. Im sure it worked the same way on other servers.
dont allow the players to to use EQW
the original client closed if you alt-tabbed
for people with 2 computers or a phone/tablet, A "Classic" Wiki would be hard to make. P99 isnt 100% Classic and the wiki is also not 100% lol
It is just the client, the mirror in the inventory, stone UI and stuff :P
drelk001
03-23-2016, 02:57 PM
I know that TAKProject is out but HOLY CRAP! it's not the same thing.
CLASSIC!
not PoP
lol
mgellan
03-23-2016, 04:51 PM
what we need is a way to make a server by just opening a program lol
There is - http://www.eqemulator.org/forums/showthread.php?t=38836
But the ProjectEQ database is aimed at replicating Live, not a Classic experience, so the code and database need to be redone to be Classic. P99 has done all the work but won't release the code and database to the public domain, understandably since then there'd be 20 Classic servers out there each with 10 people on them!
Regards,
Mg
Dolalin
03-23-2016, 05:05 PM
P99 has done all the work but won't release the code and database to the public domain, understandably since then there'd be 20 Classic servers out there each with 10 people on them!
I have a hunch there's more going on than just that...
drelk001
03-23-2016, 08:31 PM
I have a hunch there's more going on than just that...
yeah I have this, works great actually only thing is... can I use the Trilogy client to play?
doubtful*
drelk001
03-23-2016, 08:34 PM
Hey GeorgeS! Awesome to see you around!
This server will run Titanium/SoF/SoD/UF/RoF but UF is the most stable/recommended.
RoF is mostly supported.
The console doesn't show anything because that is how I setup the build options so that there isn't anything being written to logs, this burns up I/O. So yes this is perfectly normal.
The only thing that currently writes to logs is crash events, given that this build is approved and known working, you shouldn't need to debug much. You can always replace the binaries with others if you dare to try something that isn't pre-approved.
We're starting to work towards an approved 'stable' binary structure so that people can upgrade with as few issues as possible.
drelk001
03-23-2016, 08:35 PM
so no on the trilogy
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