What 3 class group is best?

[Boyblunder]

Hi guys, just started playing and love it. I played a warrior back in 2001 and was discussing this with my brother as he wants to play as well with his son. With so many options it gets confusing, we want to do dungeon crawls and be able to solo as well. Thanks :)

[Pane_AK]

Chanter, cleric, tank (probably sk for pulling)

[Archon]

My personal opinion

1) Shaman, Monk, Chanter
2) Cleric, Monk, Chanter
3) Cleric, SK, Chanter
4) Cleric, Warrior, Chanter

[Dolalin]

Shaman, necro, necro for non-raid content. You can absolutely wreck Howling stones.

[Loke]

Cleric + enchanter + whatever. Add another caster or pet class if you don't want to deal with melees, or a monk which would probably be the best melee to add in that trio. Shaman can add dots, malo, another slower. Mages and necros give a pet that can take over if chanter charm pet breaks. Druid and wiz add caster dps and transportation. Basically, a cleric and a chanter are the foundation of any solid group, so having both of them really sets you up for any grouping situation you might find yourself in.

[Raev]

A flowchart for picking a trio:

1. Pick a priest. Having some kind of healing hugely increases your margin for error. Cleric and Shaman are both superb, but Druids got buffed nicely in Velious and have ports.

2. Pick a tank. Monk, Warrior, Paladin, Shadowknight, Bard, and Ranger are all reasonable choices here. Hybrids mix a bit better with shamans because their higher threat means slow lands earlier.

3A. Pick a support class. You need one of Shaman/Enchanter/Bard for slow, haste, mana regen etc, so if you don't have one this is your last chance to fix that.

3B. Pick a DPS class. Otherwise, your primary issue is damage, and reasonable choices there are Enchanter, Necro, Mage, Rogue, Ranger, and Monk.

A few trios suggested by this algorithm:

Cleric / Monk / Enchanter (the best IMO)
Shaman / Paladin / Rogue (totally legit)
Druid / Bard / Mage (unconventional but would work quite well IMO)
Cleric / Shadowknight / Bard (low DPS, but not terrible)


There are certainly plenty of unconventional trios possible but without a priest and tank they will be based on either fear kiting or pet tanking and so won't be very flexible.

[mropey]

You guys are nuts. Cleric, Enchanter, Enchanter.

[zati]

ranger /ranger /ranger

[Kowalski]

Dylan, Dylan, Dylan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9lg6HqJeY0

[RDawg816]

If you all want to be able to solo and you want to be good enough to dungeon crawl also, and you don't want to be dependent on gear, and you want to die as little as possible my suggestion would be shaman, necro, mage.

They are all great soloers, and they all have pets (shaman at 34.)
Indoors you can have the shaman slow and root. Outdoors you can snare and fear.
The necro can keep the shaman healthy for cannibalize.
The mage can summon gear for pets.
The shaman has regen to counter lich.
The necro can charm/mez undead.
The mage could swap pets based on mobs (for stuns, ds, root/tank...)

You could also add just about anything and make a bigger group without much adjusting.

You would have plenty of cc, plenty of dps, plenty of utility, plenty of options. I believe this group would perfectly fit with what you're looking to do.

[Giustin]

ranger /ranger /ranger

+1

[Sorn]

'cuz you don't need to be super fast to escape DTs, just faster than the ranger behind you.

[Beastagoog]

Monk+shaman+chanter.

[kjs86z]

Cleric + Enchanter + Tank (or Monk)

[MycahDavith]

Content and target goals will obviously have to be taken into consideration, but here is a simple list:
Cleric+Chanter+Shaman
Cleric+Chanter+Necro
Cleric+Chanter+Mage
Cleric+Shaman+Monk

[Pyrion]

Mage, Mage, Mage for a very relaxed, mob wrecking group. Whenever a pet dies it gets recast. Aggro is always with a pet. This group can not do everything, but what it can do it will do fast and efficient.

[Expediency]

Cleric/chanter/chanter is the best trio for leveling. Probably not the funnest though.

shaman/chanter/monk seems like a waste of a third spot imo. You got to heal monk and it cant gate out of places.

You should pick either a melee dps trio or a pet based trio. A great melee trio is shaman/monk/rogue. Another good one is shaman/chanter + monk/rogue + hybrid.

If you go pet based, pick chanter plus any two of: mage, necro, shaman/druid. Druids cant summon pets (nwb is garbage) but they can charm animals and mix well with any magic class that is not a shaman. Plus they get transportation spells.

I dont know why anyone would consider a wiz for a trio. Porting opens a lot of content up to you but the druid can port plus sow, harmony, tracking, and other support skills.

If your friend is going to get his son playing and they live in the same house make sure to go ahead and request an IP exemption because it takes a while to get.

[Victorio]

Cleric enchanter enchanter

[Ofaelol]

Related question about Sham/Dru/XXX Melee

I already have a RL friend 14 Sham/Druid duo- we're animal charming in the Karanas. Another RL friend is interested in rolling a character, and I want to push her towards a tank class, or a Rogue to DPS while druid charm tanks.

If she goes for a tank class, what would work the best for the least PP spent on gear?

Also, would an undergeared tank be strictly better than a Rog + charm animal tank?

[Samoht]

a Rogue to DPS while druid charm tanks.

This absolutely will not work. Aggro will always switch to the player character over the charmed pet. The only way it can happen is with fear kite or aggro kite, either of which will really suck for the Rogue because latency on this server will constantly return mob is out of range / cannot see your target errors.

If she goes for a tank class, what would work the best for the least PP spent on gear?

Probably a Paladin or SK unless you want to add a chanter and cleric to do harder one-group content in Velious, in which case you would need a Warrior.

[Ofaelol]

The only way it can happen is with fear kite or aggro kite, either of which will really suck for the Rogue because latency on this server will constantly return mob is out of range / cannot see your target errors.


Thanks for the heads up! I assumed that fear kiting would be awesome.

Probably a Paladin or SK unless you want to add a chanter and cleric to do harder one-group content in Velious, in which case you would need a Warrior.


Sounds good!

[Troxx]

Best group for what?

Until you define what you want to do this question is impossible.

If you want to kill big trophy stuff, any 2 classes with a level 60 torpor/epic shaman.

For raw leveling speed that's a toss up, but enchanters for charm dps are a prime choice as are necros as are shamans as are well geared monks. Cleric and ench with charmed pet are insanely powerful. For speed of leveling, I would vote a caster group that has a necro in it. (could be sham/ench or cleric/ench). For raw speed of leveling, bard + 2 others (preferably with aoe).

For doing trio in tricky places like kael arena? Make sure you have a monk to split stuff. Monk ench cleric works.

But yeah, until define what you want to do the question is impossible. No "best" trio will include rangers, paladins, sks, bards, druids ... etc, but each of these classes can fit very nicely into a good functional trio.

The undeniable "power" classes:

shaman
enchanter
necromancer
cleric
monk

Pick 3 and roll.

[drktmplr12]

because latency on this server will constantly return mob is out of range / cannot see your target errors.

aim for where the mob will be in half a second, not where the mob is. problem solved. learned this while fear kiting unsnared mobs for 30 levels.

[Civenge]

aim for where the mob will be in half a second, not where the mob is. problem solved. learned this while fear kiting unsnared mobs for 30 levels.

The problem with this method is that they rarely run the same direction for very long, and you are more likely to get adds unless you pick safe areas. Also, without a sow you can get out of range very quickly as they do 180's on you and if you are slow on the switch yourself.

[Ofaelol]

The only way it can happen is with fear kite or aggro kite, either of which will really suck for the Rogue because latency on this server will constantly return mob is out of range / cannot see your target errors.


I just read a few other guides/forum posts that suggest that Necro/Rogue is a really good duo. Now I'm not sure what to believe ! :eek:

[RDawg816]

In certain situations a rogue can do plenty of dps with a pet tank. I've done it on my rogue and sk, and seen my friend do the same on his rogue. I wouldn't suggest it for leveling up though. It's tricky.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

mage mage mage or necro necro necro or *any* class x3.

deep down in eq, where you wish you hadn't took that acid, you discover that eq is all 3's.

[Cecily]

For a fast leveling and fun, I really enjoyed ranger/ rogue/ shaman. Ranger or rogue pulls and shaman works his or her ass off... but it's super high sustainable dps.

[Samoht]

In certain situations a rogue can do plenty of dps with a pet tank. I've done it on my rogue and sk, and seen my friend do the same on his rogue. I wouldn't suggest it for leveling up though. It's tricky.

No you don't.

[trite]

Cleric Enchanter Enchanter is probably the best through the 50s .....Shaman Enchanter Monk at 60 when the shaman has torpor is beastly as well

[Crawdad]

I just read a few other guides/forum posts that suggest that Necro/Rogue is a really good duo. Now I'm not sure what to believe ! :eek:

Necro/Rogue is a "really good duo" in theory, but gets old reeeally quick. Too much chasing and "Out of Range" spam. Necro/Enc or Necro/Druid are my favorite leveling duos.. only time you stop is when you're out of mobs.


Shaman/Ench/Necro for leveling trio. Nothing you really can't do and lots of redundancy if a problem does pops up.

Ranger/Druid/Ench has become another favorite of mine lately (at low/mid levels), even moreso in animal dense zones. Does get old if you resort to fear kiting though.

[iruinedyourday]

Im going to have to say Shaman Monk Enchanter

Though I think a cleric is better than a shaman for MOST fights.. there are plenty where you *need* slow to win.. the shaman trio can do ixiblat or guardian wurms NP but the cleric trio would not.

Though I think Chanter/Chanter is better than Chanter/Monk, id go with a monk for the same reason, a monk can tank ixiblat but not much... wait can that skeleton tank ixi? can a A Soul Devourer (6500 hps) tank a guardian wurm better than a monk? Maybe I am wrong all together??

Is there anything a monk can tank better than a chanter pet? Imp Potector tank Efreeti better than a monk/war?

I mean breaks can wipe the group & you dont have to worry about that with a player tank... But I mean, having triple the HP than a player character can prevent the tank from poofing on a big tripple attack..

Yea I dont know, I started out thinking one thing, typing this post, but wound up kind of wondering the other now :/

Does a chanter charmed frog, tank the fungus king better than a monk?

I want to know, what your thoughts? :confused:

[Kevris]

Group of 3 and nobody's mentioned Rush yet?

I'll just fly by night away from here now.

[Wickedbane]

Shaman, shadowknight & enchanter.

The shadowknight may not be best dps but has snap hate and snare