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username17
03-22-2016, 09:21 AM
https://www.reddit.com/live/wmk50bsm9vt3

maskedmelon
03-22-2016, 09:29 AM
Any wagers on the cultural identity of the perpetrator and zer conspirators?

Probably radical Buddhists again, or maybe Wiccans continuing their streak of violent subversion of civilization.

Pokesan
03-22-2016, 10:03 AM
Trump 2016

this attack will empower his campaign

Whirled
03-22-2016, 10:23 AM
Attack on Arby's. This guy gets it.
http://rare.us/story/weird-arbys-guy-had-the-internet-rolling-with-his-post-crash-analysis-but-heres-the-catch/

MrSparkle001
03-22-2016, 11:11 AM
Any wagers on the cultural identity of the perpetrator and zer conspirators?

Probably radical Buddhists again, or maybe Wiccans continuing their streak of violent subversion of civilization.

I think it was the three Mormon missionaries.

Solidarity with Belgium right now, and Europe at large is in some deep shit.

derpcake
03-22-2016, 11:55 AM
I'm Belgian, the reality is we've basically been waiting for something like this to happen

The recent arrest of one of those "people" involved in the Paris attack last year finally triggered it

Traffic in Brussels (European capital) crashed, public transportation and phone networks were mostly down and still are

I see Trump already reacted, idiots like him fuel the polarization that instigates these acts in the first place

Don't have kids, society isn't improving

derpcake
03-22-2016, 11:59 AM
Any wagers on the cultural identity of the perpetrator and zer conspirators?

you are one of the idiots i mentioned in my previous posts

i work with several muslims, they are pretty strict (no alcohol for example), and they were outraged at these acts, because they are Belgian first and muslim second, because their families are at risk just as well as any other person, and because they realise this will only contribute to racism, which creates a feeding-ground for the shitfest we saw today

fuck you and your witty loaded questions, i'm not gonna guess your cultural identity, i'd rather just call you a shortsighted fucktard, but if i had to make a guess myopic white nerd seems to fit well

Pokesan
03-22-2016, 12:12 PM
I'm Belgian, the reality is we've basically been waiting for something like this to happen

The recent arrest of one of those "people" involved in the Paris attack last year finally triggered it

Traffic in Brussels (European capital) crashed, public transportation and phone networks were mostly down and still are

I see Trump already reacted, idiots like him fuel the polarization that instigates these acts in the first place

Don't have kids, society isn't improving

you are one of the idiots i mentioned in my previous posts

i work with several muslims, they are pretty strict (no alcohol for example), and they were outraged at these acts, because they are Belgian first and muslim second, because their families are at risk just as well as any other person, and because they realise this will only contribute to racism, which creates a feeding-ground for the shitfest we saw today

fuck you and your witty loaded questions, i'm not gonna guess your cultural identity, i'd rather just call you a shortsighted fucktard, but if i had to make a guess myopic white nerd seems to fit well

you're literally making excuses for mass murder lol

derpcake
03-22-2016, 12:18 PM
you're literally making excuses for mass murder lol

there is no excuse, there are reasons though

no point in explaining though, if you think calling every muslim Osama then thats fine by me

need some decoys

Patriam1066
03-22-2016, 12:21 PM
you're literally making excuses for mass murder lol

derpcake
03-22-2016, 12:24 PM
weak trolls are weak

have seen worse today, maybe next time

Lune
03-22-2016, 01:27 PM
Here we are again, so soon. The Religion of Peace holds an act of Islam at Brussels airport.

Paris attack was only in November. (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=218520&highlight=paris+attack+thread)

Charlie Hebdo last January (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=177030)

Islamic culture is incompatible with Western civilization. Politics, religion, and everyday philosophy are intertwined to a much greater degree among Muslims than in Western society, creating an environment conducive to fundamentalism, theocracy, and radicalism. Some statistics for your consideration:

Terrorism ICM Poll: 20% of British Muslims sympathize with 7/7 bombers (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1510866/Poll-reveals-40pc-of-Muslims-want-sharia-law-in-UK.html)

NOP Research: 1 in 4 British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/many-british-muslims-put-islam-first/)

People-Press: 31% of Turks support suicide attacks against Westerners in Iraq. (http://www.people-press.org/2004/03/16/a-year-after-iraq-war/)

YNet: One third of Palestinians (32%) supported the slaughter of a Jewish family, including the children: (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4053251,00.html)

World Public Opinion: 61% of Egyptians approve of attacks on Americans 32% of Indonesians approve of attacks on Americans 41% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on Americans 38% of Moroccans approve of attacks on Americans 83% of Palestinians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (only 14% oppose) 62% of Jordanians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (21% oppose) 42% of Turks approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (45% oppose) A minority of Muslims disagreed entirely with terror attacks on Americans: (Egypt 34%; Indonesia 45%; Pakistan 33%) About half of those opposed to attacking Americans were sympathetic with al-Qaeda’s attitude toward the U.S.
(http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf)
Pew Research (2010): 55% of Jordanians have a positive view of Hezbollah 30% of Egyptians have a positive view of Hezbollah 45% of Nigerian Muslims have a positive view of Hezbollah (26% negative) 43% of Indonesians have a positive view of Hezbollah (30% negative) (http://www.pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/)

Pew Research (2010): 60% of Jordanians have a positive view of Hamas (34% negative). 49% of Egyptians have a positive view of Hamas (48% negative) 49% of Nigerian Muslims have a positive view of Hamas (25% negative) 39% of Indonesians have a positive view of Hamas (33% negative) (http://www.pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/)

Pew Research (2010): 15% of Indonesians believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified. 34% of Nigerian Muslims believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified. (http://www.pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/)

16% of young Muslims in Belgium state terrorism is "acceptable". (http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/1275/Islam/article/detail/1619036/2013/04/22/Zestien-procent-moslimjongens-vindt-terrorisme-aanvaardbaar.dhtml)

Populus Poll (2006): 12% of young Muslims in Britain (and 12% overall) believe that suicide attacks against civilians in Britain can be justified. 1 in 4 support suicide attacks against British troops. (http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist)

Pew Research (2007): 26% of younger Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are justified. 35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall). 42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall). 22% of young Muslims in Germany believe suicide bombings are justified.(13% overall). 29% of young Muslims in Spain believe suicide bombings are justified.(25% overall). (http://www.pewresearch.org/files/old-assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60)

Pew Research (2011): 8% of Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified (81% never). 28% of Egyptian Muslims believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified (38% never). (http://www.people-press.org/2011/08/30/muslim-americans-no-signs-of-growth-in-alienation-or-support-for-extremism/)

Pew Research (2007): Muslim-Americans who identify more strongly with their religion are three times more likely to feel that suicide bombings are justified (http://www.pewresearch.org/files/old-assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60)

ICM: 5% of Muslims in Britain tell pollsters they would not report a planned Islamic terror attack to authorities. 27% do not support the deportation of Islamic extremists preaching violence and hate. (http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist)

Federation of Student Islamic Societies: About 1 in 5 Muslim students in Britain (18%) would not report a fellow Muslim planning a terror attack. (http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist)

ICM Poll: 25% of British Muslims disagree that a Muslim has an obligation to report terrorists to police. (http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist)

Populus Poll (2006): 16% of British Muslims believe suicide attacks against Israelis are justified. 37% believe Jews in Britain are a "legitimate target".
(http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist)
Pew Research (2013): At least 1 in 4 Muslims do not reject violence against civilians (study did not distinguish between those who believe it is partially justified and never justified). (http://www.pewforum.org/files/2013/04/worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf)

Pew Research (2013): 15% of Muslims in Turkey support suicide bombings (also 11% in Kosovo, 26% in Malaysia and 26% in Bangladesh).
(http://www.pewforum.org/files/2013/04/worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf)
PCPO (2014): 89% of Palestinians support Hamas and other terrorists firing rockets at Israeli civilians. (http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/08/poll-89-of-palestinians-support-jihad-terror-attacks-on-israely)

Pew Research (2013): Only 57% of Muslims worldwide disapprove of al-Qaeda. Only 51% disapprove of the Taliban. 13% support both groups and 1 in 4 refuse to say. (http://www.pewglobal.org/2013/09/10/muslim-publics-share-concerns-about-extremist-groups/)

http://i.imgur.com/npqc5VD.png

Blitzers
03-22-2016, 01:28 PM
you are one of the idiots i mentioned in my previous posts

i work with several muslims, they are pretty strict (no alcohol for example), and they were outraged at these acts, because they are Belgian first and muslim second, because their families are at risk just as well as any other person, and because they realise this will only contribute to racism, which creates a feeding-ground for the shitfest we saw today

fuck you and your witty loaded questions, i'm not gonna guess your cultural identity, i'd rather just call you a shortsighted fucktard, but if i had to make a guess myopic white nerd seems to fit well

San Bernadino anyone? He was a really nice guy and was soooooo DEVOUT.

Troxx
03-22-2016, 02:08 PM
Here we are again, so soon. The Religion of Peace holds an act of Islam at Brussels airport.

Paris attack was only in November. (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=218520&highlight=paris+attack+thread)

Charlie Hebdo last January (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=177030)

Islamic culture is incompatible with Western civilization. Politics, religion, and everyday philosophy are intertwined to a much greater degree among Muslims than in Western society, creating an environment conducive to fundamentalism, theocracy, and radicalism. Some statistics for your consideration:



http://i.imgur.com/npqc5VD.png

Sad but true.

DoucLangur
03-22-2016, 02:13 PM
Respond in kind (shutting down borders, nurturing the hate, scoffing at muslims) and we lose our civilization.

There is no way to prevent what has happened from happening again. It will happen again. The people of the world, no matter what religion, can be kind and welcoming to each other, it will happen again because there are always extremists.

The one thing I know for sure is that it will happen more often if we accept hate against cultures, races, immigrants. If we - no matter what culture - embrace the hate that the populists are advertising every day, then we will drive more people into the arms of the populists, we will encourage more people to hate, we will have more hate-driven violence.

The only way to "win" this, is to refuse to hate.

/Slozem

Hastley
03-22-2016, 02:15 PM
Respond in kind (shutting down borders, nurturing the hate, scoffing at muslims) and we lose our civilization.

There is no way to prevent what has happened from happening again. It will happen again. The people of the world, no matter what religion, can be kind and welcoming to each other, it will happen again because there are always extremists.

The one thing I know for sure is that it will happen more often if we accept hate against cultures, races, immigrants. If we - no matter what culture - embrace the hate that the populists are advertising every day, then we will drive more people into the arms of the populists, we will encourage more people to hate, we will have more hate-driven violence.

The only way to "win" this, is to refuse to hate.

/Slozem

So do nothing? Typical liberal apologist attitude .

Pokesan
03-22-2016, 02:17 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL7hvXeOAKw

lmao

Lune
03-22-2016, 02:25 PM
Respond in kind (shutting down borders, nurturing the hate, scoffing at muslims) and we lose our civilization.

There is no way to prevent what has happened from happening again. It will happen again. The people of the world, no matter what religion, can be kind and welcoming to each other, it will happen again because there are always extremists.

The one thing I know for sure is that it will happen more often if we accept hate against cultures, races, immigrants. If we - no matter what culture - embrace the hate that the populists are advertising every day, then we will drive more people into the arms of the populists, we will encourage more people to hate, we will have more hate-driven violence.

The only way to "win" this, is to refuse to hate.

/Slozem

It's not hate for a culture, it's acknowledgement that not all cultures are equally suited for running a modern, stable, progressive society, and therefore that not all cultural nuances should be tolerated.

"Welcoming" hundreds of thousands of these people into Europe, where they stew in enclaves and parallel societies that become hotbeds of radicalization, and absolutely refuse to leave behind Islamic culture and assimilate, is only going to make things worse.

No amount of tolerance and multiculturalism is going to make this okay. These people are not looking to live in a secular, pluralistic society. They want Sharia; even a large proportion of the "moderate" ones. Rather than adapting to secular systems, they want to replace them with Islamic ones. Think of the USA's religious right x100 who want Christian virtues to dominate some aspects of public and private life.

We may not be able to do anything about the Muslims who are already here, and it will be a long time before they assimilate or sort themselves out. But one thing we can do immediately to put a damper on this shit is stop flooding Europe with harmful cultures., and to try to think of ways to integrate the people who are already here. Allowing them to cloister themselves away in parallel societies is hazardous. It would likely mean busing, reform of municipal zoning laws, affirmative action, deportation of lost causes, educational reform, etc etc. But that's the price you pay for letting them in in the first place.

Jarnauga
03-22-2016, 02:49 PM
35 deads from terrorism in europe in 2016 so far
2794 dead from guns in the us in 2016 so far

Your concerns are dully noted though.

Patriam1066
03-22-2016, 02:54 PM
35 deads from terrorism in europe in 2016 so far
2794 dead from guns in the us in 2016 so far

Your concerns are dully noted though.

How many dead in Syria and Afghanistan this year? Why is that?

I'm sure islam had nothing to do with it. I'm sure it had nothing to do with the abysmal human rights record of literally every country in the middle east as well. We're all just seeing things. When I was forced out of my country because of the faith of the woman who bore me into this world, I'm sure that was just a figment of my imagination. And the great cultures that existed before Muhammad conquered Iran and Egypt? I'm sure those weren't actually there either.

Allah be praised. May he continue to be such a just and loving God that he rewards those of us who reject him with death and destruction at the hands of idiots who worship a pedophile from 1400 years ago. And just to be clear, I actually believe in God, just not the sadistic fucked up ass hole found in the Quran, and emulated quite well by the violent simpletons known today as "Muslims".

Nuggie
03-22-2016, 03:10 PM
This argument again... ugh

Bill Tetley
03-22-2016, 03:17 PM
https://call.brussels/

Brontus
03-22-2016, 04:21 PM
Best commentary I've seen so far about the Brussels Muslim terror attacks, Islamification of the West and the open border madness of multiculturalism.

The Truth about the Brussels Attack by Paul Joseph Watson:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFyhY8WVCm0

iruinedyourday
03-22-2016, 04:30 PM
Any wagers on the cultural identity of the perpetrator and zer conspirators?

Probably radical Buddhists again, or maybe Wiccans continuing their streak of violent subversion of civilization.

Hmm I wonder, no... no pobubly its people from the SEVERALY war torn nations of the middle east, where weddings are bombed by liberal americans like Obama and water is scarce becuse of warlords the US empowered and violence is concidered the only answer to any problems thanks again to the USA

HMM no wait, its probably becuse they are all REALLY evil people and its just a coincidence that 99% of the worlds psycopaths are born in ONE part of the world.

I for one feel safe and secure knowing that in AMERICA there are NO wrongful deaths, and we DONT see over 100,000 homicides a year.

HM OH WAIT NEVERMIND :rolleyes:

derpcake
03-22-2016, 04:58 PM
unemployed xenophobes making generalizations

shocking

derpcake
03-22-2016, 05:02 PM
Best commentary I've seen so far about the Brussels Muslim terror attacks, Islamification of the West and the open border madness of multiculturalism.

The Truth about the Brussels Attack by Paul Joseph Watson:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFyhY8WVCm0

yes we need more foreigners with expert opinions

i mean he has a beard and a suit, and he prolly read an article on bxl, seems like an expert

thx for link, i don't want to dismiss your source as a known conspiracy theorist but he is and you are a tinfoil hat idiot

hope they start monitoring your internet soon, cuz safety

AzzarTheGod
03-22-2016, 05:07 PM
Hmm I wonder, no... no pobubly its people from the SEVERALY war torn nations of the middle east, where weddings are bombed by liberal americans like Obama and water is scarce becuse of warlords the US empowered and violence is concidered the only answer to any problems thanks again to the USA

HMM no wait, its probably becuse they are all REALLY evil people and its just a coincidence that 99% of the worlds psycopaths are born in ONE part of the world.

I for one feel safe and secure knowing that in AMERICA there are NO wrongful deaths, and we DONT see over 100,000 homicides a year.

HM OH WAIT NEVERMIND :rolleyes:

Only browsed this post. but I like what my pal said.

How's that drone playbook doing in 2016? :) Have any of you morons even glanced at the civilian bodycount from drone strikes? CIA attempted to cover it up by misreporting to Congress, and we were able to calculate the actual number of civilians by decoding the statistics (subtracted a number from another number).

Go do some reading kids.

How those outdoor weddings going in Yemen?

Daywolf
03-22-2016, 05:10 PM
Yeah too bad no one saw this coming...
oh yeah http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/28/world/europe/trump-finds-new-city-to-insult-brussels.html
He got mocked for it though, because how can anyone ever call Brussels a hellhole? Well, there is a literal hole now :(
And I'm sure they will say that that hole is the fault of TRUMP
It's a given *shrugs*
Where will the next hole be?
Don't bother asking the leftist libtards, they're clueless, even after the fact.

AzzarTheGod
03-22-2016, 05:13 PM
When I think of where Eurotrash comes from, I think of Brussels and Paris France.

Never Britain. So yeah. The Don has a point.

derpcake
03-22-2016, 05:28 PM
amazing how bigger capital cities produce more trash

verily

derpcake
03-22-2016, 05:30 PM
Never Britain. So yeah. The Don has a point.

i agree, its not like london got attacked in 2005, with over 50 casualties

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_July_2005_London_bombings

Never Britain, you're retarded or a 15 year old? stop expressing your opinion on these matters thx

Daywolf
03-22-2016, 05:34 PM
When I think of where Eurotrash comes from, I think of Brussels and Paris France.

Never Britain. So yeah. The Don has a point.

Yeah, well I don't know about that any longer either. Britain wanted to ban Donald from entering the country/region, so then he says he'll close his golf resort (he couldn't ever go there duh?) and they threw a tantrum :rolleyes:

I don't think anyone there understands that when people hate you, it's not a good idea to hang around with them or do business with them. They are letting in all these people that want to destroy their countries, to kill them, and they just don't understand why things are not going so well...

Then they tell Donald they don't want him there, they hate him, and cant understand why he would then close his businesses there.

derpcake
03-22-2016, 05:37 PM
because his business is relevant to their GDP

yes

(in case you don't get it, they don't give a single fuck about him, and since he yaps he got closed down)

AzzarTheGod
03-22-2016, 05:41 PM
i agree, its not like london got attacked in 2005, with over 50 casualties

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_July_2005_London_bombings

Never Britain, you're retarded or a 15 year old? stop expressing your opinion on these matters thx

sorry you are from a known eurotrash city.

attacks in London have fuckall to do with whether Brussels is a eurotrash capital or not, but thanks for trying. Come again nerd.

Daywolf
03-22-2016, 05:42 PM
because his business is relevant to their GDP

yes

(in case you don't get it, they don't give a single fuck about him, and since he yaps he got closed down)
He got closed down? what? Dude I hear your mom calling you to come out of the basement and get your cookies.

Pokesan
03-22-2016, 06:28 PM
BREAKING NEWS UPDATE:

http://i.imgur.com/8bvcsXV.png

Hastley
03-22-2016, 06:52 PM
Reporting this thread to FBI . Derpcake seems unstable and of "questionable " background and a potential radical

Lune
03-22-2016, 06:53 PM
Hmm I wonder, no... no pobubly its people from the SEVERALY war torn nations of the middle east, where weddings are bombed by liberal americans like Obama and water is scarce becuse of warlords the US empowered and violence is concidered the only answer to any problems thanks again to the USA

HMM no wait, its probably becuse they are all REALLY evil people and its just a coincidence that 99% of the worlds psycopaths are born in ONE part of the world.

I for one feel safe and secure knowing that in AMERICA there are NO wrongful deaths, and we DONT see over 100,000 homicides a year.

HM OH WAIT NEVERMIND :rolleyes:

When you do such a shit job running a society that you can't even enforce your sovereignty, and you harbor groups who attack other countries, you just might catch some collateral damage when the US comes to advance its interests.

Note that countries like China, Japan, India, Indonesia, South Africa, etc don't have this problem even though they got bulled by Old Whitey for hundreds of years just as hard as the Middle East. The US generally doesn't need to operate in their borders because, for the most part, they take care of their own shit, and they aren't a springboard for people like Osama Bin Laden to attack US civilians.

Why is it that China can be systematically raped by all the great European powers, and then Japan, and then rebuild and be just fine? How can Jews spend over 3,000 years being systematically persecuted and murdered, and manage to rise to the top of wherever they settle?

Maybe, culturally, most Islamic nations are just violent retrograde shitholes? And they were that way before we got there, and remain that way when we leave?

Getting attacked doesn't give you carte blanche to resort to terrorism or an excuse to be a failure. Every society on Earth has had to deal with being invaded, conquered, attacked, oppressed, brutalized, etc. Better cultures are able to move on in spite of it. And yes, I totally expect these attacks to happen because of the way US foreign policy antagonizes these primitives. It's what we get for conducting our Imperialism the way we do. The only thing I'm advocating here is calling a spade a spade, and ending the multiculturalism that not only makes these kinds of attacks much easier, but undermines the fabric of Western civilization.

Efwan
03-22-2016, 07:22 PM
This is what happens when you let Muslim/Islamic refugees come freely into your country. Feel bad for Brussels for sure, Belgium is a fucking awesome country if you've ever been, but could have seen this coming out of any country around that area to be honest.

Blitzers
03-22-2016, 07:40 PM
Round'em up kick'em out before the zombies outnumber the brains.

Seriously Islam is a Cult. There is no such thing as a peaceful Muslim. They all play a role in the "Guise of Allah."

Brontus
03-22-2016, 08:09 PM
unemployed xenophobes making generalizations

shocking

The employment status of forum posters is none of your business and has no relevance to the validity of an argument.

Disparaging the employment status of people who disagree with you and labeling them as "xenophobes" shows that you have no arguments.

Labeling people in lieu of providing a cogent argument demonstrates intellectual sloth. This is a common tactic of the left and progressives which everyone has grown weary of.

Islam is a supremacist ideology that is clearly incompatible with Western values. The people of Europe have finally had enough of the elites who have allowed this to happen.

iruinedyourday
03-22-2016, 08:10 PM
The employment status of forum posters is none of your business and has no relevance to the validity of an argument.

Disparaging the employment status of people who disagree with you and labeling them as "xenophobes" shows that you have no arguments.

Labeling people in lieu of providing a cogent argument demonstrates intellectual sloth. This is a common tactic of the left and progressives which everyone has grown weary of.

Islam is a supremacist ideology that is clearly incompatible with Western values. The people of Europe have finally had enough of the elites who have allowed this to happen.

posting something like this proves you are fat and lonely IRL

Swish
03-22-2016, 08:13 PM
Meanwhile...

http://i.imgur.com/aWGse3o.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/RKo2xlZ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/KGBNBnL.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/JOkS0wz.jpg

Daywolf
03-22-2016, 08:18 PM
I agree with Lune, too much to quote and go back over.

Fuck multiculturalism.

Muslims living in slums that have no opportunities will always breed criminals, kinda like the slums in any country (including USA, see Chicago) and those people will lash out at those they think are holding them down, or from their proper place in life (rulers over the non-believers).

There is 3 solutions to this
1. Kill billions of people so those left will have all the opportunities they want
2. Give in and do as the "overlords" want
3. go extra socialistic ban all religion and anything that makes you different and if you rebel you die.
John_Walker_Lindh (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Walker_Lindh)
Tairod Pugh (http://www.ijreview.com/2015/03/273293-american-veteran-just-tried-join-isis-looked-facebook-8-ominous-things-found/)
Mohamad Khweis (http://legalinsurrection.com/2016/03/dimwitted-virginia-man-regrets-joining-isis/)
Douglas McCain (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_McCain)
Ahmad Abousamra (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmad_Abousamra)
Samra Kesinovic and Sabina Selimovic (http://rare.us/story/the-parents-of-this-girl-who-joined-isis-just-received-sad-news/)
Shannon Conley (http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/19-year-old-colorado-woman-shannon-maureen-conley-charged-with-aiding-terrorist-group-fbi-says07022014)
Denis “Deso Dogg” Cuspert (http://popularmilitary.com/wannabe-thug-rapper-who-joined-isis-killed-in-airstrike/)
Listing names can go on and on...


"Earlier this year, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper testified before Congress that as many as 20,000 foreign fighters had joined ISIS’s ranks, about 3,400 of them from Western nations. http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/247256-more-than-200-americans-tried-to-fight-for-isis-fbi-says "

"Roughly (edit: prolly low estimate) 250 Americans have attempted to join jihadists in Syria, according to government estimates. One in six are women. They display similar traits to Western fighters overall: young, digitally savvy and connected through blood to jihadism. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/11/17/why-young-american-women-are-joining-isis/ "


So, you're solution is to exterminate billions of people and/or trample the world under the socialist jackboot? And I assume this atrocity starts in America since it looks like it's not what you claim, but simply an ideology, and of which libtards seem to often associate as a "religion of peace" and befriend... in fact some fleeing to join with on the battlefield and get involved in terrorist acts.

Blitzers
03-22-2016, 08:57 PM
So sad, this PC war makes me sick. The 1 thing Trump is right about is killing their families. To win war you must be more brutal then the enemy. ISIS is recruiting the felons here in America they are in our prisons converting many of these degenerates.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/isis-renews-fears-about-recruiting-in-u.s.-prisons/article/2560401

Makes me wonder why Obama is so hell bent on letting so many "non-violent" felons out.

We're gonna face it here.

1st they came to preach Islam.
Then they asked us to convert.
Then they demanded it.


I know I will have my Glock ready and won't hesitate even on their 1st attempt.

Pokesan
03-22-2016, 09:00 PM
Meanwhile...

http://i.imgur.com/aWGse3o.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/RKo2xlZ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/KGBNBnL.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/JOkS0wz.jpg

extremely good. im surprised.

Pokesan
03-22-2016, 09:06 PM
To honor my good chum Swish.

Cameron criticises Ukip for linking Brussels attacks to immigration

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/mar/22/cameron-criticises-ukip-for-linking-brussels-attacks-to-immigration

Ukip has been criticised by David Cameron and others for claiming the Brussels terror attacks show the dangers of lax immigration controls and a need to leave the EU.

Mike Hookem, the party’s defence spokesman, released a statement within two hours of the attacks saying the “horrific act of terrorism shows that Schengen free movement and lax border controls are a threat to our security”.

He drew the link between terrorism and immigration despite there being no information in the public domain about the identity of the attackers, their origins or motives.

“The head of Europol said in February that 5,000 jihadists are at large in the EU having slipped in from Syria,” Hookem said. “There are 94 returned jihadists currently living in Molenbeek, Brussels. This fact alone should alert people to the fact that open borders are putting the lives of European citizens at risk.”

The Ukip leader, Nigel Farage, added: “I’m very upset by events in Brussels today and even more depressed for the future.”

He also retweeted Telegraph columnist Allison Pearson, who made a similar point to Hookem with a tweet saying: “Brussels, de facto capital of the EU, is also the jihadist capital of Europe. And the Remainers dare to say we’re safer in the EU! #Brexit.”

David Cameron was among those to criticise Ukip’s remarks. He said it was “not appropriate” to be drawing a link between the terror attacks and immigration on such a day.

Hookem, an MEP, responded on Twitter to criticism that the press release was distasteful, saying: “What is shameless is putting lives at risk for the sake of political union ... I am in Brussels; how many of those people attacking me are sitting safely behind computers?”

Ukip made a similar intervention after the Paris terror attacks, suggesting that immigration had contributed to the inevitability of atrocities.

At the time, Farage said: “The thing that makes me angry about what happened in Paris is frankly the fact that it was so utterly and entirely predictable. I think we’ve reached a point where we have to admit to ourselves, in Britain and France and much of the rest of Europe, that mass immigration and multicultural division has for now been a failure.”

He went even further than that by saying some British Muslims are “conflicted in their loyalties” between the UK way of life and what some elements within their faith are telling them.

Although Ukip has clearly linked terror attacks to the arguments for leaving the EU, the other Brexit wing, Vote Leave, is more keen to stress potential economic benefits of quitting the EU and not let the campaign become too negatively focused on immigration.

when the fuck is it appropriate then?

Jarnauga
03-22-2016, 09:16 PM
Still waiting for you guys to show us euros how it's done and find a "solution" to the "muslim problem" in the us ? 3.3 million muslims living in the usa. That's a lot of potential suicide bombers amirite ? ;)

It's not like you guys are learning from your mistakes. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_Americans)

Uuruk
03-22-2016, 09:21 PM
Trump 2016

this attack will empower his campaign

Third post in. Shut the fuck up dude.

Pokesan
03-22-2016, 09:22 PM
japanese internment camps are incredibly relevant to todays events where belgians were murdered by muslims!

spyder73 alt account?

Pokesan
03-22-2016, 09:25 PM
Third post in. Shut the fuck up dude.

Do you disagree? Or are you just shitposting like always?

Jarnauga
03-22-2016, 09:28 PM
japanese internment camps are incredibly relevant to todays events where belgians were murdered by muslims!

spyder73 alt account?

Well what's your solution to the muslims living in the USA ? let's hear it.

Hastley
03-22-2016, 09:30 PM
Still waiting for you guys to show us euros how it's done and find a "solution" to the "muslim problem" in the us ? 3.3 million muslims living in the usa. That's a lot of potential suicide bombers amirite ? ;)

It's not like you guys are learning from your mistakes. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_Americans)

Europeans are dying at the hands of Muslim radicals. So are Americans. Yet your politically correct leaders have you bickering with Americans at who is worse at controlling terrorism. Are you blind or just stupid? Address the real issue

Jarnauga
03-22-2016, 09:33 PM
Europeans are dying at the hands of Muslim radicals. So are Americans. Yet your politically correct leaders have you bickering with Americans at who is worse at controlling terrorism. Are you blind or just stupid? Address the real issue

Well adress it ! tell me what you'd do !

Daywolf
03-22-2016, 09:51 PM
It's not like you guys are learning from your mistakes. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_Americans)
What mistakes? That's why Europe is headed to defeat, won't take realistic measures to protect themselves. Dealing with the Japanese the way they did was their decision, what they felt had to be done. Oh and they won the war btw, if that matters to you.

In this situation that won't work with such camps, not w/o a huge stockpile of 50 shades of grey they seem to require for reading as a pastime. As has been proven time and time again, the only thing they respond to is to someone that will stand up and not take it any longer, to be firm and not back down. Generally they only go after the weak and limp willed, puts them into a frenzy to attack.

Terrorism requires ...terror, you must become afraid and run to the gobernment demanding appeasement, and that only drives them to strike even harder. It has nothing to do about death or body count, it's about terror to turn you against your own people. So you fling your boarders open for appeasement sake, thinking they just want to live with you in peace. Then sudden destruction.

Jarnauga
03-22-2016, 09:58 PM
Dealing with the Japanese the way they did was their decision, what they felt had to be done. Oh and they won the war btw, if that matters to you.



There were not japanese. They were american citizens that happened to have japanese ancestry.

So what you're saying is, there's no problems with the 3.3 millions muslims living in the USA ..? because you're "firm" with them ?

Wow. it's almost like you say they're afraid of the american laws.

Daywolf
03-22-2016, 10:07 PM
There were not japanese. They were american citizens that happened to have japanese ancestry.

So what you're saying is, there's no problems with the 3.3 millions muslims living in the USA ..? because you're "firm" with them ?

Wow. it's almost like you say they're afraid of the american laws.
Well if you've spent any time around this forum, you'd prolly not bother asking that.

http://i.imgur.com/KfgBeTJ.jpg

A good first step is to defeat the lies with truth.

Jarnauga
03-22-2016, 10:33 PM
So no one is gonna say what they really think ? 2 solutions: either y'all are big trolls, or you don't have balls. Y'all are like against multiculturalism, but don't wanna say what to do against it.. which is obviously the separations of muslims from the rest of the society. Hey why stops at muslims ? throw in communists, homosexuals, and gypsies too. Put them into what's left of detroit, you can call that "the detroit ghetto".

Most of the people suffering from Isis are muslims. But somehow, they want this ! because all muslims are muslims so they obviously do muslim things that they are musliming, right ? We are all occidentals here. And yet we all strongly disagree with each other. WELL GUESS WHAT, IT'S THE SAME FUCKING THING IN THE ARAB WORLD :eek: .

Y'all should be ashamed. because while you guys are shitting with your fox news inherited way of thinking comfortably sitting in your chairs, some of them are actually fighting and dying every day on the ground (http://i.imgur.com/Mq7HZdc.jpg), some of them are taking immense risks to testify what's happening in syria (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V28SDigCLek) right now, some of them are doing their part in the crysis 10 times more than the richest countries in the world (http://www.unhcr.org/pages/49e486676.html). And don't even get me started on the fucking mess the bush administration left in Irak. Isis and the rest of the world can thank you on this one.

All done, you guys are sickening. I can't wait for you guys to elect Trump and then wonder why the rest of the world is laughing at you and/or hating you.

Pokesan
03-22-2016, 10:55 PM
that's an excellent point jarnauga. angry forum posts are the real crime, not the mass murder committed in belgium today by muslims.

so sickening.

maskedmelon
03-22-2016, 10:59 PM
you are one of the idiots i mentioned in my previous posts

i work with several muslims, they are pretty strict (no alcohol for example), and they were outraged at these acts, because they are Belgian first and muslim second, because their families are at risk just as well as any other person, and because they realise this will only contribute to racism, which creates a feeding-ground for the shitfest we saw today

fuck you and your witty loaded questions, i'm not gonna guess your cultural identity, i'd rather just call you a shortsighted fucktard, but if i had to make a guess myopic white nerd seems to fit well

Woah there buddy, pretty nasty of you to automatically associate the subject my friendly wager with Muslims. Why would you even think that? You must have your reasons i suppose.

Well I am going to go back to stroking my room temperature IQ. It's pretty cold in here.

Daywolf
03-22-2016, 11:01 PM
So no one is gonna say what they really think ? 2 solutions: either y'all are big trolls, or you don't have balls.
tl;dr after that full retard.
You're just not listening, phishing for something specific to respond to for your predetermined ranty reply. The rest of your post is likely releasing that predetermined response in all directions with extra frustration as no one fully bit (and this isn't an instant forum btw). On a normal day the full retard is humorous, but me thinks times like this OT needs a wall built to protect the inmates. Maybe some FEMA camps to contain the ones that make it over the electrified barbed wire and past the auto-cannon drones. You look like you could use a refreshing iced-tea.

maskedmelon
03-22-2016, 11:04 PM
So no one is gonna say what they really think ? 2 solutions: either y'all are big trolls, or you don't have balls. Y'all are like against multiculturalism, but don't wanna say what to do against it.. which is obviously the separations of muslims from the rest of the society. Hey why stops at muslims ? throw in communists, homosexuals, and gypsies too. Put them into what's left of detroit, you can call that "the detroit ghetto".

Most of the people suffering from Isis are muslims. But somehow, they want this ! because all muslims are muslims so they obviously do muslim things that they are musliming, right ? We are all occidentals here. And yet we all strongly disagree with each other. WELL GUESS WHAT, IT'S THE SAME FUCKING THING IN THE ARAB WORLD :eek: .

Y'all should be ashamed. because while you guys are shitting with your fox news inherited way of thinking comfortably sitting in your chairs, some of them are actually fighting and dying every day on the ground (http://i.imgur.com/Mq7HZdc.jpg), some of them are taking immense risks to testify what's happening in syria (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V28SDigCLek) right now, some of them are doing their part in the crysis 10 times more than the richest countries in the world (http://www.unhcr.org/pages/49e486676.html). And don't even get me started on the fucking mess the bush administration left in Irak. Isis and the rest of the world can thank you on this one.

All done, you guys are sickening. I can't wait for you guys to elect Trump and then wonder why the rest of the world is laughing at you and/or hating you.

Hi there. I don't like you. And I don't reckon you like me either. Now I might decide I like you, but if I do, does that mean you will like me too?

Lune
03-22-2016, 11:07 PM
So no one is gonna say what they really think ? 2 solutions: either y'all are big trolls, or you don't have balls. Y'all are like against multiculturalism, but don't wanna say what to do against it.. which is obviously the separations of muslims from the rest of the society. Hey why stops at muslims ? throw in communists, homosexuals, and gypsies too. Put them into what's left of detroit, you can call that "the detroit ghetto".

Most of the people suffering from Isis are muslims. But somehow, they want this ! because all muslims are muslims so they obviously do muslim things that they are musliming, right ? We are all occidentals here. And yet we all strongly disagree with each other. WELL GUESS WHAT, IT'S THE SAME FUCKING THING IN THE ARAB WORLD :eek: .

Y'all should be ashamed. because while you guys are shitting with your fox news inherited way of thinking comfortably sitting in your chairs, some of them are actually fighting and dying every day on the ground (http://i.imgur.com/Mq7HZdc.jpg), some of them are taking immense risks to testify what's happening in syria (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V28SDigCLek) right now, some of them are doing their part in the crysis 10 times more than the richest countries in the world (http://www.unhcr.org/pages/49e486676.html). And don't even get me started on the fucking mess the bush administration left in Irak. Isis and the rest of the world can thank you on this one.

All done, you guys are sickening. I can't wait for you guys to elect Trump and then wonder why the rest of the world is laughing at you and/or hating you.

What makes you think I want to do anything about the Muslims who are already here? There isn't much you can do, and even less you can do realistically in a democracy. Probably the most important thing is that people need to realize cultural relativism is garbage, and that immigrants have an obligation to integrate into their destination country. Immigration needs to be severely reduced to a manageable level so that parallel societies do not form. It would probably take hundreds of years to integrate and undo the damage of the last 50 years, if the flood stopped now.

What the fuck did you guys think was going to happen, letting in an entire culture that is incompatible with Western civilization, knowing they have no intent to assimilate? How can you defend that? Multiculturalism says every culture is inherently equal, and everyone has the right to never assimilate. Don't you see how false and damaging that is? In order to stop multiculturalism, people need to learn what a crock of shit it is. The policy would go from there:

Solution #1. Change the acceptance of multiculturalism that has developed since the end of WWII. Not all cultures deserve our respect or tolerance, not all cultures are equally advanced when it comes to running a stable, progressive society. Say nono to racism (racism and bigotry impedes integration). This will guide a more reasonable immigration policy in the future, leading to:

#2. Very selective, low-volume immigration laws that are actually enforced. No more businesses importing hordes of low-skill low-wage labor and then passing off the social costs onto the government and the public. Allow a proper volume of immigrants to adapt in a welcoming, compassionate, open society without forming parallel societies or dramatically altering the host culture. Immigrants selected and overseen by social workers on a case by case basis.

And yes Trump is awful.

Seltius
03-22-2016, 11:18 PM
I feel sorry for the people that lost loved ones or were hurt in this attack. Does it make me selfish to hope that no one I know was hurt or killed in this attack?

I wish there was some middle ground that could be reached it sucks that each side feels the need to completely destroy the other.

I also think it is pretty shitty that some bastard politicians see this attack as a chance to further their agendas.

maskedmelon
03-22-2016, 11:25 PM
I think Jarnauga is angry because nobody will tell him the only way to be free of this nonsense is to purge the planet of Islam and all the nastiness that would entail.

No, nobody will say that. Sadly for the children of today and their future children and children's children, nobody will strive for it either. Thus we ourselves and our descendants the world over are damned to submit to the decrepit writ of Allah.

Islam is a supremely powerful organism for which man must embrace one of two fates;

1. A world subject to Islam
2. A world free of Islam


The latter isn't going to happen because as our angry friend has been keen to point out we lack sufficient endowment to even utter the great necessity of our time.

Swish
03-22-2016, 11:40 PM
To honor my good chum Swish.



http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/mar/22/cameron-criticises-ukip-for-linking-brussels-attacks-to-immigration



when the fuck is it appropriate then?

Basically stop bombing Syria, stabilize the region and send them back.

Sending in ground troops never worked long term anywhere since WW2.

But wait, how can arms dealers and oil barons make money if this happens? Oh yeah right...sorry pals, carry on.

Also have you ever seen true refugees with smartphones? I haven't...that's where the lefty libtards refuse to make a distinction.

Swish
03-23-2016, 12:04 AM
For more common sense, look up Pat Condell on YouTube... British guy, not a big fan of Muslim values but he hits the nail on the head on a bunch of issues.

Daywolf
03-23-2016, 01:26 AM
i work with several muslims, they are pretty strict (no alcohol for example), and they were outraged at these acts, because they are Belgian first and muslim second, because their families are at risk just as well as any other person, and because they realise this will only contribute to racism, which creates a feeding-ground for the shitfest we saw today
Do you even know what the word "racism" means? When did racism start being attributed to ideologies? Islam is an ideology, not a race. Not ... a race.

Pokesan
03-23-2016, 01:41 AM
Do you even know what the word "racism" means? When did racism start being attributed to ideologies? Islam is an ideology, not a race. Not ... a race.

http://i.imgur.com/tRGFyHz.png?1

derpcake.jpg

Ahldagor
03-23-2016, 01:54 AM
What makes you think I want to do anything about the Muslims who are already here? There isn't much you can do, and even less you can do realistically in a democracy. Probably the most important thing is that people need to realize cultural relativism is garbage, and that immigrants have an obligation to integrate into their destination country. Immigration needs to be severely reduced to a manageable level so that parallel societies do not form. It would probably take hundreds of years to integrate and undo the damage of the last 50 years, if the flood stopped now.

What the fuck did you guys think was going to happen, letting in an entire culture that is incompatible with Western civilization, knowing they have no intent to assimilate? How can you defend that? Multiculturalism says every culture is inherently equal, and everyone has the right to never assimilate. Don't you see how false and damaging that is? In order to stop multiculturalism, people need to learn what a crock of shit it is. The policy would go from there:

Solution #1. Change the acceptance of multiculturalism that has developed since the end of WWII. Not all cultures deserve our respect or tolerance, not all cultures are equally advanced when it comes to running a stable, progressive society. Say nono to racism (racism and bigotry impedes integration). This will guide a more reasonable immigration policy in the future, leading to:

#2. Very selective, low-volume immigration laws that are actually enforced. No more businesses importing hordes of low-skill low-wage labor and then passing off the social costs onto the government and the public. Allow a proper volume of immigrants to adapt in a welcoming, compassionate, open society without forming parallel societies or dramatically altering the host culture. Immigrants selected and overseen by social workers on a case by case basis.

And yes Trump is awful.

Yup, Mexicans and Turks have undergone similar behaviors of admittance from the US and Deutschland.

derpcake
03-23-2016, 10:26 AM
http://i.imgur.com/tRGFyHz.png?1

derpcake.jpg

seems more pleasant then spending time on a discussion with you

its also a fake pic using an incredibly shitty form of green screen, also white people don't have a shadow right

maybe try again, i wouldn't bother if i was you

derpcake
03-23-2016, 10:33 AM
I think Jarnauga is angry because nobody will tell him the only way to be free of this nonsense is to purge the planet of Islam and all the nastiness that would entail.

No, nobody will say that. Sadly for the children of today and their future children and children's children, nobody will strive for it either. Thus we ourselves and our descendants the world over are damned to submit to the decrepit writ of Allah.

Islam is a supremely powerful organism for which man must embrace one of two fates;

1. A world subject to Islam
2. A world free of Islam


The latter isn't going to happen because as our angry friend has been keen to point out we lack sufficient endowment to even utter the great necessity of our time.

i could say the same about christianity, based on the KKK

minority fucking shit up -> abolish religion?

note that india has over 138 million muslims, and they are very peaceful, respect for other religions is one of their core values

don't let it keep you from further displays of ignorance

i mean you are proposing a global war on muslims? while india and pakistan have nuclear weapons? and that global (nuclear) war not happening is "sad for the children of today?"

...

sounds balanced and thoughtful, not a dumb and uninformed extremist at all! i'm sure american muslims will feel inspired by your solid arguments, but they should just be blown up also so it doesn't matter

seek an education, please

derpcake
03-23-2016, 10:46 AM
#2. Very selective, low-volume immigration laws that are actually enforced. No more businesses importing hordes of low-skill low-wage labor and then passing off the social costs onto the government and the public. Allow a proper volume of immigrants to adapt in a welcoming, compassionate, open society without forming parallel societies or dramatically altering the host culture. Immigrants selected and overseen by social workers on a case by case basis.

its a hard situation really

a turkish engineer with 15 years of relevant experience and no signs of extremism?

seems like a great recruit, welcome!

a kurdisch doctor with great references?

welcome pal, we can use you

/watches as these educated people stab each other after discovering each others nationalities

but spreading people based on their nationality is currently defined as racism, so there is a loooong way to go

sOurDieSel
03-23-2016, 11:02 AM
Just glass the Middle East and be done with it.

There is NO benefit in flooding Europe or America with 3rd world Muslims.... I mean Rapeugees.

derpcake
03-23-2016, 11:04 AM
Just glass the Middle East and be done with it.

i'm sure the wall will protect you from the consequences of "glassing the middle east"

better start building imo

sOurDieSel
03-23-2016, 11:08 AM
Derpcake, if you can list 5 benefits of Muslim Immigration to Europe or America I will vote for Shillary in the next election just 4 u.

Pokesan
03-23-2016, 11:09 AM
glassing the middle east is a terrible idea

http://i.imgur.com/11Wy2Vf.jpg

DoucLangur
03-23-2016, 01:26 PM
Jarnauga has summed things up very well.

What most people do not get is that by preaching hate and violence against Muslims, or refugees, you are doing the job of the terrorists. You are helping them, as you are doing exactly what they hope to accomplish: Spreading hate, and creating / escalating a conflict of cultures.

The islamic terrorists have exactly this goal: To provoke, to infuriate people in the western world, so that these people pick up the dirty work, and carry it out into hate and violence against muslims & refugees, which in turn creates more extremists, fueling the conflict. On a scale that a simple suicide bomber, killing a few dozen people could never accomplish this.

EVERYONE who argues in favor of Hate and Violence, regardless of the background and the target group, is responsible for future extremism, and everyone who has in the past argued in favor of Hate and Violence is responsible for mass murder, be it in the form of air strikes on "extremists" (killing more civilians than armed extremists), or in the form of bombs and shootings in western cities.

A strong resolve is not shown by advocating violence. A strong state, or person, uses force when necessary, in moderation, and always with regret over the necessity.

If you think hating anyone is a good idea, or if you think violence against anyone is a good idea, then you are the problem, not the solution. Keep spreading the hate, and you will be a supporter of (regardless of background) terrorists...

/Slozem

sOurDieSel
03-23-2016, 01:30 PM
Lets all combat terrorism by being nice to them and using some lame #hashtag.

Lune
03-23-2016, 01:44 PM
You are helping them, as you are doing exactly what they hope to accomplish: Spreading hate, and creating / escalating a conflict of cultures.

There already is a conflict of cultures, though. Islamic cultures stand in direct conflict with Western beliefs in free speech, democracy, the scientific method, the Protestant ethic, secular government, and so much more.. even among most so-called "moderate Muslims". It's naive to think somebody with a radically different culture is JUST LIKE YOU except they believe in a different God or wear their hair differently, that's not how it works. Culture generates profound differences in behavior, cognition, beliefs, everything... to the extent that the way your prefrontal cortex is wired depends on the nature of the culture and experiences you were exposed to during childhood and adolescence.

Some immigrants are willing to assimilate, and I applaud and welcome them, because that's what you are supposed to do when you immigrate. My undergrad anatomy/physio professor came from Turkey and she was absolutely wonderful. My gripe is that when you have no selectivity and high volume immigration, you get large groups of people who stick together and make little to no effort to integrate, creating a pocket of the old country in the new country (like Molenbeek, which has proven to be a disaster). This is harmful. Do you know what else plays into ISIS's hands and accomplishes their goals? Undermining the fabric of our society and creating huge theocratic parallel communities they can interface with and radicalize on the inside.

Also, hate has nothing to do with it. When you put out mouse traps to kill mice, is it because you hate mice? Not necessarily, it's because they get into stuff, chew, and leave poop and disease everywhere. Mice are actually kinda cute.

iruinedyourday
03-23-2016, 01:49 PM
if we're talking about people hat get into stuff, chew, and leave poop everywhere.. lets start by sending all of you to jail for not being 'perfect' citizens.

Lune
03-23-2016, 01:59 PM
if we're talking about people hat get into stuff, chew, and leave poop everywhere.. lets start by sending all of you to jail for not being 'perfect' citizens.

I know, right? How would you like it if I left my basement and moved into yours?

iruinedyourday
03-23-2016, 02:01 PM
at least thanks to all these hillary lovers out there im more inclined to start building the gas chambers right along with you lune.

Seltius
03-23-2016, 02:06 PM
So what is the excuse of the immigrants that are committing rapes, and other violent crimes? Is it that they see the hate in the world and react to it? Not all of the immigrants that we are seeing are due to war or violence.

I in no way condone violence nor hate but that doesn't change the fact that there are already people out there that would prefer to see my throat slit as opposed to open meaningful dialog. They are also very adept at hiding in plain sight. Again something that is almost impossible for me with the way I stand out. I learned at an early age how to live with as little violence or hate as possible. But that doesn't change that there are people out there that just cannot do that. They want me(us) dead for any number of reasons and would kill me(us) if they could.


I think the analogy of comparing people to rats or mice is really inappropriate because when a rodent or animal is doing those things there is no malice involved. Where as when a person does a lot of the things you are trying to compare them to it is always involving emotions. You cannot commit violence without emotion of some sort unless you are a very mentally ill individual.

Jarnauga
03-23-2016, 02:07 PM
There already is a conflict of cultures, though. Islamic cultures stand in direct conflict with Western beliefs in free speech, democracy, the scientific method, the Protestant ethic, secular government, and so much more.. even among most so-called "moderate Muslims". It's naive to think somebody with a radically different culture is JUST LIKE YOU except they believe in a different God or wear their hair differently, that's not how it works. Culture generates profound differences in behavior, cognition, beliefs, everything... to the extent that the way your prefrontal cortex is wired depends on the nature of the culture and experiences you were exposed to during childhood and adolescence.

Some immigrants are willing to assimilate, and I applaud and welcome them, because that's what you are supposed to do when you immigrate. My undergrad anatomy/physio professor came from Turkey and she was absolutely wonderful. My gripe is that when you have no selectivity and high volume immigration, you get large groups of people who stick together and make little to no effort to integrate, creating a pocket of the old country in the new country (like Molenbeek, which has proven to be a disaster). This is harmful. Do you know what else plays into ISIS's hands and accomplishes their goals? Undermining the fabric of our society and creating huge theocratic parallel communities they can interface with and radicalize on the inside.

Also, hate has nothing to do with it. When you put out mouse traps to kill mice, is it because you hate mice? Not necessarily, it's because they get into stuff, chew, and leave poop and disease everywhere. Mice are actually kinda cute.

https://youtu.be/Z7LviKl9MKo?t=30

/thread

Lune
03-23-2016, 02:16 PM
https://youtu.be/Z7LviKl9MKo?t=30

/thread

Yea looks like you missed the part where I said everyone is welcome but in reasonable numbers. But then it's much easier to just spin things and call me a bigot isn't it?

Here look I can do it too (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfqAkUXKT5Y)

iruinedyourday
03-23-2016, 02:21 PM
Yea looks like you missed the part where I said everyone is welcome so long as they denounce their culture and accept ours. But then it's much easier to just spin things and call me a bigot isn't it?

Here look I can do it too (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfqAkUXKT5Y)

fify

derpcake
03-23-2016, 02:23 PM
Lets all combat terrorism by being nice to them and using some lame #hashtag.

nah, lets support trump who is going to abolish the millions of Muslims that inhabit your country

i mean they stable now, but lets just support trump claims about deportation

imagine a black presidential candidate suggesting all white people get shipped back to the UK / Spain

that would pass well i am sure

Lune
03-23-2016, 02:27 PM
fify

Is there something wrong with that?

Do you deny that some cultures are harmful to our way of life? The quality of a society depends directly on its culture; it's the reason Denmark is like Denmark and Ethiopia is Ethiopia.

Why shouldn't immigrants have to adapt to the way of life in their new country? If I were going to Denmark because life is better there, maybe I should endeavor to become Danish rather than make Denmark like California?

Pokesan
03-23-2016, 02:31 PM
denmark would be better of if it were california california has nicer weather

Jarnauga
03-23-2016, 02:31 PM
Yea looks like you missed the part where I said everyone is welcome but in reasonable numbers. But then it's much easier to just spin things and call me a bigot isn't it?

Here look I can do it too (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfqAkUXKT5Y)

The KKK are trying to protect their country from multiculturalism, aren't they ?

sOurDieSel
03-23-2016, 02:41 PM
The KKK are trying to protect their country from multiculturalism, aren't they ?

So anyone who doesn't want terrorists, rapists, murders and drug dealers living in their country is now a member of the KKK?

Lune
03-23-2016, 02:46 PM
The KKK are trying to protect their country from multiculturalism, aren't they ?

http://i.imgur.com/a9ayLpP.jpg

The KKK are also dedicated to Christianity and certain Christian values.

Does that mean Christians are evil because they share something with the KKK? What a lazy post.

DoucLangur
03-23-2016, 02:49 PM
The ISIL terrorists are also dedicated to Islam and certain Islamic values.

Does that mean Muslims are evil because they share something with the ISIL terrorists? What a lazy post.

Fixed that for you.

maskedmelon
03-23-2016, 02:52 PM
i could say the same about christianity, based on the KKK



On behalf of our great society and the greater Off Topic community, I am honored to present derpcake with this Retarded Poster Award for defiant resolve in the uncaring face of common sense.

Let's all share in a round of applause!


Congratulations derpcake. You do your name well friend.

\^^/

Lune
03-23-2016, 02:59 PM
Fixed that for you.

It's a more accurate statement when the values they share are bad values.

You know, like the whole wanting to enact Sharia Law thing that's so prevalent among "moderate Muslims". (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2222018&postcount=12)

Even then, it doesn't make them evil. Just incompatible with the kind of society we want here in the West. Like how I have the freedom to say "God isn't real" without being beheaded. Fired or ostracized for tipping my fedora, maybe, but not executed.

Jarnauga
03-23-2016, 03:13 PM
I live in a country with 6 million muslims. Most of them just by tradition, never stepped foot in a mosque, just follow ramadan. I myself live in a middle sized city and see 10x more arab girls wearing h&m than any islamic veil and never ever encountered a full tchador type.

See, that's the difference between you and me. I actually met and talked to muslims. You only hear about muslims in fow news.

A large majority of us people are christians. A large majority of them will also get divorced. If you can understand that "contradiction" you can get that you can be a muslim without wanting to behead the non believers.

iruinedyourday
03-23-2016, 03:29 PM
why do you guys hate ISIS so much, they do a better job of killing muslims than GWB did.

http://i.imgur.com/lN6ZkWI.png

Lune
03-23-2016, 03:34 PM
I live in a country with 6 million muslims. Most of them just by tradition, never stepped foot in a mosque, just follow ramadan. I myself live in a middle sized city and see 10x more arab girls wearing h&m than any islamic veil and never ever encountered a full tchador type.

See, that's the difference between you and me. I actually met and talked to muslims. You only hear about muslims in fow news.

A large majority of us people are christians. A large majority of them will also get divorced. If you can understand that "contradiction" you can get that you can be a muslim without wanting to behead the non believers.

That's great. Those are the actual moderate Muslims who have assimilated to some degree, and I have absolutely no problem with them.

But does that type characterize the majority of Muslim diaspora in Europe? Well, we have my statistics (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2222018&postcount=12), and your anecdotes.

Pokesan
03-23-2016, 03:39 PM
why do you guys hate ISIS so much, they do a better job of killing muslims than GWB did.

http://i.imgur.com/lN6ZkWI.png

stories about western countries are more interesting to citizens of western countries than stories about elsewhere in the world? woah

sOurDieSel
03-23-2016, 03:39 PM
lol

Moderate Islam

Religion of Peace

Europe Benefiting from Multiculturalism

Flying Unicorns

Bernie Sanders Winning Nom Over Shillary

lawlz

iruinedyourday
03-23-2016, 04:12 PM
stories about western countries are more interesting to citizens of western countries than stories about elsewhere in the world? woah

i merely trying to point out that if they just shut the fuck up about ISIS all together, the problem they have will solve itself.

sOurDieSel
03-23-2016, 04:36 PM
But guys...If you don't talk about ISIS then ISIS will cease to exist....Stop pointing out that fact that Muslims like blowing stuff up because it hurts their feel feels. They are simple responding to your evil racist xenophobic hatred to preserve Europe the only way they know how.

The next time there is a Muslim committing Aloha Snack'Bar, You can just close your eyes and tap your heels together three times. And think to yourself, 'ISIS doesn't exist.'

AzzarTheGod
03-23-2016, 04:38 PM
http://i.imgur.com/tRGFyHz.png?1

derpcake.jpg

lol that's derpcake in Belgium on a green screen.

Pokesan
03-23-2016, 04:49 PM
But guys...If you don't talk about ISIS then ISIS will cease to exist....Stop pointing out that fact that Muslims like blowing stuff up because it hurts their feel feels. They are simple responding to your evil racist xenophobic hatred to preserve Europe the only way they know how.

The next time there is a Muslim committing Aloha Snack'Bar, You can just close your eyes and tap your heels together three times. And think to yourself, 'ISIS doesn't exist.'

this is a good post. don't know how it came from you, but it's good.

AzzarTheGod
03-23-2016, 04:54 PM
In other news. Lune is killin this thread. Knockin em dead left right and center.

Like off-topic terrorism due to the fearsome nature of his logic and reason.

this is a good post. don't know how it came from you, but it's good.


Saw my brother last night and he said the only thing that should be discussed in Western media is money and that we need more money grubbing talk, less political shit. And that he would put Cramer on every single channel in syndication. Real sick misers and money grubbing propaganda are the cure to radicalism. I laughed pretty hard in recognition that this would actually solve half the problem.

Makes sense.

Daywolf
03-23-2016, 05:00 PM
why do you guys hate ISIS so much, they do a better job of killing muslims than GWB did.

http://i.imgur.com/lN6ZkWI.png
There was no San Diego attack, that was San Bernardino, which is ~25mi away from LA. San Diego is almost 100mi to the south. San Bernardino and San Diego are two entirely different beasts, San Bernardino is much more like LA. Much of San Diego county consists of conservative strongholds (excluding San Diego city district) along with it's neighbor to the north Riverside county (these were mostly populated during the "white flight" era of the 80's and 90's). San Bernardino county and LA county are predominantly liberal and crime ridden areas, with shootings and drugs, and murders and sanctuary cities for illegals. That's where that attack took place, in a liberal weak region that would rather surrender and join the terrorists ideology attacking everyone else.

It's true though about their murders, muslims kill far more muslims than anyone else. It's not just ISIS, though they are contributing, but nothing in comparison the the long carnage of tribal and religious sect warfare going on in the muslim world for decades, centuries, a millennia. The west has had times, but not based on religion, but based on political ideology and power. But when San Diego launches air strikes against San Bernardino, or vise versa, let me know.

derpcake
03-23-2016, 05:56 PM
trump has my full support as your future leader

Daywolf
03-23-2016, 08:59 PM
trump has my full support as your future leader
Well yeah, the way it is, many of the Europeans will need to flee Europe and the muslim hoards and then migrate to the US in the next 5-7yrs. So of course they will want a functioning economy and a refuge from the rest of the flaming melting world, something not influenced by the backwards progression people (e.g. the Hillary types).

The languages will assimilate well enough, but accepting that Standard > Metric is the only real hurtle ;) My only fear is they won't learn the lesson as they leave a burning Europe, and toss their hip libster backwards-progressive votes to the same type of politicians here as they did in Europe, though Canada is another option for them of course. idk. But don't need to get the other extreme either with people wanting to nuke the region/s after being run out.

I don't see any other logical projection from how things stand right now. It's either flee, die, convert to islam... or as it gets so extreme Europeans decide to take extreme measures to push back. Remember the last time such a person rose to power so to push back? We still have memorials to that war of which we rescued Europe from. I think that is the most likely projection in this matter, someone will rise to power and push back from the brink, and it'll likely be bloody, again.

iruinedyourday
03-23-2016, 09:03 PM
It's true though about their murders, muslims kill far more muslims than anyone else. It's not just ISIS, though they are contributing, but nothing in comparison the the long carnage of tribal and religious sect warfare going on in the muslim world for decades, centuries, a millennia. The west has had times, but not based on religion, but based on political ideology and power. But when San Diego launches air strikes against San Bernardino, or vise versa, let me know.

more people die working at factories recycling/building products you buy every day, than have died in all wars combined. Bet you didn't know that fact.

Daywolf
03-23-2016, 09:29 PM
more people die working at factories recycling/building products you buy every day, than have died in all wars combined. Bet you didn't know that fact.I didn't? Then you didn't know Communist socialist marxist revolutions and their famines far outweigh in death count during times of "peace" than all the death counts from wars of the last century.

Oh and if you are literally talking "all wars combined", then that would be wrong. It's something like 4 billion people (http://www.ppu.org.uk/learn/infodocs/st_war_peace.html).
I'm just speaking of the 20th century to now.

Pokesan
03-23-2016, 09:34 PM
no its not and please learn to read

(It has been calculated that between 3600 BC and today there have been only 292 years of peace; that there have been over 14,500 major wars in which close to 4 billion people have perished. The war dead thus come close to equalling the total population of the world today.)

iruinedyourday
03-23-2016, 09:38 PM
there are currently 22 democratic socialist countries.

All outpace america in everything but money made through investing & war spending.

Daywolf
03-23-2016, 09:53 PM
no its not and please learn to read

Yet, despite the fact that everyone appears to want peace, it is still in short supply. (It has been calculated that between 3600 BC and today there have been only 292 years of peace; that there have been over 14,500 major wars in which close to 4 billion people have perished. The war dead thus come close to equaling the total population of the world today.)

Reading at university level since before you were born. Learn to research above a 3th grade level.

Pokesan
03-23-2016, 09:55 PM
I'm just speaking of the 20th century to now.

nah

and your "research" is infowars level reptilian president hogwash. bitch.

iruinedyourday
03-23-2016, 09:55 PM
Reading at university level since before you were born. Learn to research above a 3th grade level.

oh please son stop acting like you are university educated you a fine gamer but educated you are not.

Daywolf
03-23-2016, 10:46 PM
oh please son stop acting like you are university educated you a fine gamer but educated you are not.
Is that all you have left? you should just post your meme and call it a day.
Just because you didn't go to college doesn't mean others didn't, I mean of those that oppose your ideologue flap of which you obviously suspect of such. It's just I fully resisted the libtard brainwashing when I went to college, though I saw it all around me from people like you.


there are currently 22 democratic socialist countries.

All outpace america in everything but money made through investing & war spending.As for this, of course socialism works splendidly, until it runs out of everyone else's money.

Funny thing is, the money you are spending on this junk, it comes from the great great grandchildren of ... well not you, right? ..from the people you call .... um was it "breeders"? Yeah the great great grandchildren of them there breeders. They will be paying for your freee condoms and such until we are 100yrs in the ground already.

And you mention "Democratic" as if I think democracy is a good thing :rolleyes:

Pokesan
03-23-2016, 10:59 PM
And you mention "Democratic" as if I think democracy is a good thing :rolleyes:

you don't think democracy is a good thing?

how deep does the daywolf hole go. this is some next level mechanical elves shit right here.

Xaanka
03-23-2016, 11:18 PM
muslims RIPPING the rl pvp leaderboard

Date Country City Killed Injured Description
2016.03.22 Bangladesh Kurigram 1 0 A Christian convert is stabbed to death by Religion of Peace proponents.
2016.03.22 Belgium Brussels 14 92 Fourteen people are murdered when two suicide bombers detonate nail-packed explosives at crowded airline counters.
2016.03.22 Belgium Brussels 20 130 A Religion of Peace suicide blast on a subway train incinerates twenty commuters.
2016.03.19 Iraq Mosul 70 0 A mass grave is discovered containing the remains of seventy female Yazidi victims of ISIS torture and execution.
2016.03.19 Turkey Istanbul 4 39 An ISIS suicide bomber murders four people along a city street, including two American tourists.
2016.03.18 Syria Aleppo 2 3 Two children, a boy and a girl, are reduced to pulp by a series of Sunni rockets on their neighborhood.
2016.03.17 Pakistan Smagal 4 0 A woman and her child are among four souls obliterated by a suicide bomber.
2016.03.16 Pakistan Peshawar 15 30 Fifteen people are torn to shreds when Jihadis bomb a bus carrying commuters.
2016.03.14 Syria Busayrah 1 0 A young man is shot in the head for 'mocking religion'.
2016.03.14 Bangladesh Jhenaidah 1 0 Radical Muslims assassinate a 'polytheist apostate' (ie Shia cleric).
2016.03.12 Afghanistan Khanashin 1 3 A child is disassembled by Taliban bombers.
2016.03.10 Syria Wilayat al-Khayr 2 0 The Islamic State executes two terrified men by blowing them up.
2016.03.09 Iraq Husseiniya 1 6 Terrorists place a bomb under a bus that kills a passenger.
2016.03.09 Iraq Taza 1 600 A 3-year-old girl dies from an ISIS chemical attack that left hundreds injured.
2016.03.09 Somalia Mogadishu 4 2 Four people bleed out following a suicide car bombing outside a café.
2016.03.09 Thailand Narathiwat 2 3 Muslim terrorists murder two members of a guard patrol for teachers.
2016.03.08 Uruguay Paysandu 1 0 A Jewish man is stabbed to death by a Muslim convert 'following Allah's order'…
2016.03.08 Iraq al-Hadar 4 0 Four sex slaves are executed for trying to escape captivity in the caliphate.
2016.03.08 Turkey Kilis 2 1 A 4-year-old and his mother die when Sunni extremists hit their car with a rocket.
2016.03.08 Iraq Baghdad 3 7 Three people are left dead following a Mujahideen bombing.
2016.03.08 Thailand Si Sakhon 1 0 A man on a motorcycle is ambushed and killed by Muslim terrorists.
2016.03.08 Israel Jaffa 1 15 Palestinians stab an American tourist to death.
2016.03.08 Afghanistan Maiwand 2 0 Two men clearing landmines are executed by suspected fundamentalists.
2016.03.08 Syria Aleppo 1 0 Devout Muslims implement the 'Rule of Allah' by shooting an 'apostate' in the head.
2016.03.08 Thailand Tak Bai 1 0 A Muslim 'insurgent' walks up to a man in a crowd and fires a bullet into the back of his head.
2016.03.08 Iraq Fallujah 50 0 Fifty civilians are executed by the Islamic State.
2016.03.07 Iraq Kirkuk 5 0 Five young people are torn to shreds by an ISIS bomb blast.
2016.03.07 Afghanistan Shindand 3 3 Three civilians are blown to bits by a Taliban bomb blast.
2016.03.07 Egypt al-Arish 2 0 Two local cops are pulled into pieces by Muslim bombers.
2016.03.07 Syria Hasakah 1 3 A woman loses her life to an ISIS explosive device.
2016.03.07 Chechnya Grozny 1 0 Video surfaces showing religious radicals executing a man with a shot to the head.
2016.03.07 Tunisia Ben Guerdane 19 17 A 12-year-old girl is among nineteen others who lose their lives during an Islamist assault on a small town.
2016.03.07 Somalia Beledweyne 0 6 A bomb hidden in a laptop detonates at an airport.
2016.03.07 Pakistan Shabqadar 17 30 A Jamatul Ahrar suicide bomber murders seventeen people at a courthouse, including two children.
2016.03.07 Pakistan Orangi Town 2 0 A young couple is shot to death by conservative relatives for marrying of their own free will.
2016.03.07 Iraq Abu Ghraib 3 7 Three people at a market are sectionalized by a Jihadi bomb blast.
2016.03.06 Iraq al-Jahash 12 0 A dozen people are executed by a Sharia court.
2016.03.06 Iraq Hillah 61 95 At least sixty people are incinerated when a suicide bomber in a fuel tanker detonates outside a town.
2016.03.06 Syria Aleppo 14 40 Jaish-al-Sunna terrorists send mortars and rockets into a busy market, massacring over a dozen shoppers.
2016.03.06 Egypt Sheikh Zuweid 3 0 Fundamentalists ambush an ambulance and machine-gun a medic and two injured patients.
2016.03.05 Yemen Aden 2 0 Sectarian terrorists fire on a vehicle, killing two occupants.
2016.03.05 Syria Jarablus 1 0 A teen is beheaded for apostasy after missing Friday prayers.
2016.03.04 Yemen Aden 16 0 Militant Muslims storm a Catholic retirement home and murder sixteen, including four nuns and the elderly residents.
2016.03.03 Iraq Abu Ghraib 2 10 Two civilians are killed when terrorists sent mortar shells into a market.
2016.03.03 Libya Surman 2 0 Two Italian hostages are killed while being used as human shields by ISIS.
2016.03.03 Syria Kafriya 1 3 Sunni militants machine-gun a civilian in his home.
2016.03.03 Thailand Yala 1 0 Militant Muslims shoot a rubber tapper to death, then set his body on fire.
2016.03.02 Egypt Khariza 1 3 An Islamist bomb claims one life.
2016.03.02 Iraq Hawija 6 0 Six people are beheaded and crucified by the Islamic State.
2016.03.02 Iraq Nineveh 5 0 A 12-year-old girl is forced by the caliphate to execute five women, including a doctor.
2016.03.02 Syria Quneitra 18 30 Two suicide bombers massacre eighteen bystanders.
2016.03.02 Afghanistan Jalalabad 2 19 Four suicide bombers target the Indian consulate, killing two civilians.
2016.03.01 Pakistan Noorshah 2 0 Two women are murdered over 'doubts about their character and lifestyles'.
2016.03.01 Pakistan Peshawar 2 4 Two employees at the US consulate bleed to death following an Islamist bombing.
2016.03.01 Afghanistan Pul-e-Khumri 3 2 Religious extremists hit a house with a rocket, killing three family members.
2016.03.01 Somalia Alamada 5 8 An al-Shabaab bomb produces five dead bodies.
2016.03.01 Egypt al-Arish 2 0 Fundamentalists behead a man and shoot his son to death.
2016.03.01 Iraq Haditha 8 8 Eight Iraqis are blown up by four Fedayeen suicide bombers.
2016.03.01 Philippines Datu Salibo 1 2 Bangsamoro Islamists kill one other person during an ambush.
2016.03.01 Philippines Zamboanga 2 0 An assassination attempt on an anti-ISIS preacher outside a university hall leaves two dead.
2016.03.01 Pakistan Sheikhupura 1 0 An Ahmadi religious minority is stabbed to death for his faith.
2016.03.01 Russia Moscow 1 0 A woman beheads a child, saying that it was revenge for 'spilled Muslim blood' in Syria.
2016.02.29 Afghanistan Farah 3 3 Three children are disassembled by a Taliban IED.
2016.02.29 Afghanistan Uruzgan 4 3 Four locals are shot to death by the Taliban
2016.02.29 Iraq Mosul 24 0 Two dozen Iraqis are rounded up and executed by the Islamic State.
2016.02.29 Iraq Mosul 2 0 Two religious clerics are murdered by their more radical brethren
2016.02.29 Iraq Muqdadiya 40 58 A Fedayeen suicide bomber detonates at a funeral, sending at least forty mourners straight into their own afterlife.
2016.02.29 Iraq Hawija 3 0 Three youth are beheaded for putting up anti-ISIS posters.
2016.02.29 Yemen Aden 4 5 A Shahid suicide bomber snuffs out four other souls.
2016.02.29 DRC Ntombi 13 0 Four women are among thirteen villagers found hacked to pieces by ADF Islamists.
2016.02.29 Nigeria Badarawa 15 22 Suspected Boko Haram surround a group of villagers gathered to watch a video and pour machine gun fire into them, killing at least fifteen.
2016.02.29 Syria Deir ez-Zor 3 0 Three men are crucified by a Sharia court for crimes against Allah.
2016.02.28 Iraq Abu Ghraib 24 22 Two dozen Iraqis are shot or blown apart during a Fedayeen suicide attack by ISIS.
2016.02.28 Iraq Baghdad 78 112 Seventy-eight people at a packed market in a Shiite area are exterminated by two Sunni suicide bombers.
2016.02.28 Egypt al-Arish 1 0 A man is shot to death in front of his home by the Islamic State.
2016.02.28 Somalia Baidoa 30 60 At least thirty civilians and first responders are slaughtered by a twin suicide attack near a restaurant.
2016.02.28 Afghanistan Lashkar Gah 3 11 Three souls are snuffed out by an explosive device planted by Sharia proponents.
2016.02.28 Afghanistan Qads 1 0 A tribal elder is tortured to death by religious extremists.
2016.02.27 Afghanistan Bolan 2 0 The Taliban wipe out two local police with a roadside bomb.
2016.02.27 Afghanistan Asadabad 12 40 A dozen people lose their lives to a suicide blast along a city street, including three brothers.
2016.02.27 Afghanistan Nangarhar 1 5 Taliban bombers take out a civilian.
2016.02.27 Syria Salamiya 2 3 An ISIS suicide bomber takes at least two others with him.
2016.02.27 Afghanistan Kabul 15 31 A suicide bomber targets a bus, killing fifteen passengers and bystanders.
2016.02.27 Syria Teeba 4 4 Four villagers lose their lives to an Islamic State suicide bomber.
2016.02.27 Syria Deir Ezzor 3 12 Three children are disassembled by Sunni mortars.
2016.02.27 Egypt Rafah 2 2 Two local security personnel are cut down by an Islamist bomb.
2016.02.27 Iraq Abu Ghraib 2 9 Jihadis bomb an outdoor market, killing two patrons.
2016.02.27 Iraq Baghdad 5 25 A series of Mujahideen blasts leave five dead.
2016.02.27 Syria Ajila 2 4 A suicide car bomber takes out two village guards.
2016.02.27 Pakistan Qayum 1 2 A Muslim shouts a religious slur and fires into a Christian home, killing a 17-year-old boy.
2016.02.26 Somalia Mogadishu 14 30 Holy Warriors attack a 'Youth League' hotel with bombs and gunfire, laying out fourteen innocents.
2016.02.26 Syria al-Zahra 1 0 A child is killed by Jabhat al-Nusra.
2016.02.26 Egypt Giza 1 1 Fundamentalists open fire on two traffic cops, killing one.
2016.02.26 Germany Hanover 0 1 A 'radicalized' teen girl stabs a female police officer.
2016.02.25 Somalia Mogadishu 4 8 Four civilians lose their lives to an al-Shabaab attack.
2016.02.25 Iraq Baghdad 15 50 Two Sunni suicide bombers detonate at a Shiite mosque, slaughtering at least fifteen worshippers.
2016.02.24 Libya Sabratha 12 0 A dozen local security agents are captured and beheaded by ISIS.
2016.02.24 Mali Timbuktu 3 2 Islamists attack a checkpoint, killing three defenders.
2016.02.24 Afghanistan Kabul 7 0 The Taliban kill seven Afghans over a 24-hour period.
2016.02.24 Syria Dayr al-Zawr 2 14 Sunni rockets take out two civilians.
2016.02.24 Syria Aleppo 10 5 Seven children are among ten civilians disassembled by two Sunni mortar rounds.
2016.02.24 Iraq Mosul 1 0 An imam is beheaded by Religion of Peace rivals.
2016.02.24 Nigeria Agatu 300 0 Radical Islamic mercenaries sweep through a series of Christian villages and slaughter over three hundred, including pregnant women and children.
2016.02.23 Iraq Fallujah 12 0 A dozen Iraqis are caught trying to flee the caliphate, marched to the city center and executed.
2016.02.23 Syria Hamidiya 2 0 Two teenage girls are stoned for adultery.
2016.02.23 Iraq Hawija 4 0 Four young people are executed by ISIS after members call for 'repentance'.
2016.02.23 Syria Deir Ezzor 2 14 Two civilians are pulled apart by a Sunni mortar blast.
2016.02.23 Iraq Yusufiya 1 9 Terrorists bomb a vegetable market, killing one person.
2016.02.23 Syria Raqqa 1 0 Radicals execute a man for 'apostasy'.
2016.02.22 Philippines Tugaya 1 0 Muslim terrorists murder a local soldier guarding a village
2016.02.22 Iraq Ramadi 8 0 Eight people are killed in their own homes by ISIS booby-traps.
2016.02.22 India Pompore 3 0 Three more people are killed by Lashkar-e-Toiba.
2016.02.22 Iraq Ramadi 6 10 An ISIS assault leaves six town defenders dead.
2016.02.22 Afghanistan Jabba 2 2 Religious fundamentalists murder two local cops.
2016.02.22 Afghanistan Parwan 13 19 A suicide bomber detonates near a clinic, taking thirteen other souls with him.
2016.02.22 Afghanistan Baghlan 1 2 A Taliban rocket takes out an Afghan citizen.

Daywolf
03-23-2016, 11:34 PM
you don't think democracy is a good thing?

how deep does the daywolf hole go. this is some next level mechanical elves shit right here.
Nope. Where in the constitution does it say "democracy"? You take me for a Neocon, sir? I am a Constitutionalist. I live in what is or what was a Constitutional Republic, the United States of America.

"Hence it is that democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and in general have been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths... A republic, by which I mean a government in which a scheme of representation takes place, opens a different prospect and promises the cure for which we are seeking." James Madison, Federalist Papers No. 10 (1787).

“A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.” Thomas Jefferson

“Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide.” John Adams

Pokesan
03-23-2016, 11:39 PM
ok so you're irrelevant to the conversation past 1825 or so and i suggest you take up knitting instead of posting so poorly thanks

Xaanka
03-23-2016, 11:40 PM
this is some next level mechanical elves shit right here.

love hanging out with those little dudes

http://i.imgur.com/LILbK08.jpg

Daywolf
03-24-2016, 12:21 AM
ok so you're irrelevant to the conversation past 1825 or so and i suggest you take up knitting instead of posting so poorly thanks
That sounds like something the dems said when they were doing their filibuster against the civil rights act (1964). Always these dippy Dems pointing fingers, quite literally psychological projection at it's finest. I may not be a Republican, but I sure as hell aint a Dem.

Really, man, what was so wrong with P.L. 88–352 ?

"Prohibited discrimination in public accommodations, facilities, and schools. Outlawed discrimination in federally funded projects. Created the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission to monitor employment discrimination in public and private sectors. Provided additional capacities to enforce voting rights. Extended the Civil Rights Commission for four years. Passed by the 88th Congress (1963–1965) as H.R. 7152."

Pokesan
03-24-2016, 12:57 AM
i don't think anyone cares about your incorrect and highly autistic analysis of the politics of ~50 years ago

my good chum

Daywolf
03-24-2016, 01:48 AM
i don't think anyone cares about your incorrect and highly autistic analysis of the politics of ~50 years ago

my good chum
Then denounce JFK! Isn't JFK like the famed idol of the modern Democrat party? one which they are deeply proud of. More like derply. He voted against the 1957 civil rights act. When he was president, he had MLK jr investigated under the suspicion of being a communist. ...!!!

This is like the solid record of the Democratic party, man. They only court black votes with one hand while they impoverish black people with the other hand. Keep em' down and angry to turn out for the vote.

Barack Hussein 0bama isn't even black! Being part Black Irish, I'm probably about as black as 0bama is lol The dude isn't black, his party is not the civil rights champion, by far! They just court black votes, just like they are now trying to court muslim votes.

The real Dem party is as phony as 0bama handing you a two dollar bill. It boggles my mind these robots following them, clueless and in denial.

So yeah, keep tossing out your un-witty half liners, and alluding to alice in wonderland. Makes for humorous convos. Would rather laugh with you, but take what we can get.

Swish
03-24-2016, 04:42 AM
muslims RIPPING the rl pvp leaderboard

Date Country City Killed Injured Description
2016.03.22 Bangladesh Kurigram 1 0 A Christian convert is stabbed to death by Religion of Peace proponents.
2016.03.22 Belgium Brussels 14 92 Fourteen people are murdered when two suicide bombers detonate nail-packed explosives at crowded airline counters.
2016.03.22 Belgium Brussels 20 130 A Religion of Peace suicide blast on a subway train incinerates twenty commuters.
2016.03.19 Iraq Mosul 70 0 A mass grave is discovered containing the remains of seventy female Yazidi victims of ISIS torture and execution.
2016.03.19 Turkey Istanbul 4 39 An ISIS suicide bomber murders four people along a city street, including two American tourists.
2016.03.18 Syria Aleppo 2 3 Two children, a boy and a girl, are reduced to pulp by a series of Sunni rockets on their neighborhood.
2016.03.17 Pakistan Smagal 4 0 A woman and her child are among four souls obliterated by a suicide bomber.
2016.03.16 Pakistan Peshawar 15 30 Fifteen people are torn to shreds when Jihadis bomb a bus carrying commuters.
2016.03.14 Syria Busayrah 1 0 A young man is shot in the head for 'mocking religion'.
2016.03.14 Bangladesh Jhenaidah 1 0 Radical Muslims assassinate a 'polytheist apostate' (ie Shia cleric).
2016.03.12 Afghanistan Khanashin 1 3 A child is disassembled by Taliban bombers.
2016.03.10 Syria Wilayat al-Khayr 2 0 The Islamic State executes two terrified men by blowing them up.
2016.03.09 Iraq Husseiniya 1 6 Terrorists place a bomb under a bus that kills a passenger.
2016.03.09 Iraq Taza 1 600 A 3-year-old girl dies from an ISIS chemical attack that left hundreds injured.
2016.03.09 Somalia Mogadishu 4 2 Four people bleed out following a suicide car bombing outside a café.
2016.03.09 Thailand Narathiwat 2 3 Muslim terrorists murder two members of a guard patrol for teachers.
2016.03.08 Uruguay Paysandu 1 0 A Jewish man is stabbed to death by a Muslim convert 'following Allah's order'…
2016.03.08 Iraq al-Hadar 4 0 Four sex slaves are executed for trying to escape captivity in the caliphate.
2016.03.08 Turkey Kilis 2 1 A 4-year-old and his mother die when Sunni extremists hit their car with a rocket.
2016.03.08 Iraq Baghdad 3 7 Three people are left dead following a Mujahideen bombing.
2016.03.08 Thailand Si Sakhon 1 0 A man on a motorcycle is ambushed and killed by Muslim terrorists.
2016.03.08 Israel Jaffa 1 15 Palestinians stab an American tourist to death.
2016.03.08 Afghanistan Maiwand 2 0 Two men clearing landmines are executed by suspected fundamentalists.
2016.03.08 Syria Aleppo 1 0 Devout Muslims implement the 'Rule of Allah' by shooting an 'apostate' in the head.
2016.03.08 Thailand Tak Bai 1 0 A Muslim 'insurgent' walks up to a man in a crowd and fires a bullet into the back of his head.
2016.03.08 Iraq Fallujah 50 0 Fifty civilians are executed by the Islamic State.
2016.03.07 Iraq Kirkuk 5 0 Five young people are torn to shreds by an ISIS bomb blast.
2016.03.07 Afghanistan Shindand 3 3 Three civilians are blown to bits by a Taliban bomb blast.
2016.03.07 Egypt al-Arish 2 0 Two local cops are pulled into pieces by Muslim bombers.
2016.03.07 Syria Hasakah 1 3 A woman loses her life to an ISIS explosive device.
2016.03.07 Chechnya Grozny 1 0 Video surfaces showing religious radicals executing a man with a shot to the head.
2016.03.07 Tunisia Ben Guerdane 19 17 A 12-year-old girl is among nineteen others who lose their lives during an Islamist assault on a small town.
2016.03.07 Somalia Beledweyne 0 6 A bomb hidden in a laptop detonates at an airport.
2016.03.07 Pakistan Shabqadar 17 30 A Jamatul Ahrar suicide bomber murders seventeen people at a courthouse, including two children.
2016.03.07 Pakistan Orangi Town 2 0 A young couple is shot to death by conservative relatives for marrying of their own free will.
2016.03.07 Iraq Abu Ghraib 3 7 Three people at a market are sectionalized by a Jihadi bomb blast.
2016.03.06 Iraq al-Jahash 12 0 A dozen people are executed by a Sharia court.
2016.03.06 Iraq Hillah 61 95 At least sixty people are incinerated when a suicide bomber in a fuel tanker detonates outside a town.
2016.03.06 Syria Aleppo 14 40 Jaish-al-Sunna terrorists send mortars and rockets into a busy market, massacring over a dozen shoppers.
2016.03.06 Egypt Sheikh Zuweid 3 0 Fundamentalists ambush an ambulance and machine-gun a medic and two injured patients.
2016.03.05 Yemen Aden 2 0 Sectarian terrorists fire on a vehicle, killing two occupants.
2016.03.05 Syria Jarablus 1 0 A teen is beheaded for apostasy after missing Friday prayers.
2016.03.04 Yemen Aden 16 0 Militant Muslims storm a Catholic retirement home and murder sixteen, including four nuns and the elderly residents.
2016.03.03 Iraq Abu Ghraib 2 10 Two civilians are killed when terrorists sent mortar shells into a market.
2016.03.03 Libya Surman 2 0 Two Italian hostages are killed while being used as human shields by ISIS.
2016.03.03 Syria Kafriya 1 3 Sunni militants machine-gun a civilian in his home.
2016.03.03 Thailand Yala 1 0 Militant Muslims shoot a rubber tapper to death, then set his body on fire.
2016.03.02 Egypt Khariza 1 3 An Islamist bomb claims one life.
2016.03.02 Iraq Hawija 6 0 Six people are beheaded and crucified by the Islamic State.
2016.03.02 Iraq Nineveh 5 0 A 12-year-old girl is forced by the caliphate to execute five women, including a doctor.
2016.03.02 Syria Quneitra 18 30 Two suicide bombers massacre eighteen bystanders.
2016.03.02 Afghanistan Jalalabad 2 19 Four suicide bombers target the Indian consulate, killing two civilians.
2016.03.01 Pakistan Noorshah 2 0 Two women are murdered over 'doubts about their character and lifestyles'.
2016.03.01 Pakistan Peshawar 2 4 Two employees at the US consulate bleed to death following an Islamist bombing.
2016.03.01 Afghanistan Pul-e-Khumri 3 2 Religious extremists hit a house with a rocket, killing three family members.
2016.03.01 Somalia Alamada 5 8 An al-Shabaab bomb produces five dead bodies.
2016.03.01 Egypt al-Arish 2 0 Fundamentalists behead a man and shoot his son to death.
2016.03.01 Iraq Haditha 8 8 Eight Iraqis are blown up by four Fedayeen suicide bombers.
2016.03.01 Philippines Datu Salibo 1 2 Bangsamoro Islamists kill one other person during an ambush.
2016.03.01 Philippines Zamboanga 2 0 An assassination attempt on an anti-ISIS preacher outside a university hall leaves two dead.
2016.03.01 Pakistan Sheikhupura 1 0 An Ahmadi religious minority is stabbed to death for his faith.
2016.03.01 Russia Moscow 1 0 A woman beheads a child, saying that it was revenge for 'spilled Muslim blood' in Syria.
2016.02.29 Afghanistan Farah 3 3 Three children are disassembled by a Taliban IED.
2016.02.29 Afghanistan Uruzgan 4 3 Four locals are shot to death by the Taliban
2016.02.29 Iraq Mosul 24 0 Two dozen Iraqis are rounded up and executed by the Islamic State.
2016.02.29 Iraq Mosul 2 0 Two religious clerics are murdered by their more radical brethren
2016.02.29 Iraq Muqdadiya 40 58 A Fedayeen suicide bomber detonates at a funeral, sending at least forty mourners straight into their own afterlife.
2016.02.29 Iraq Hawija 3 0 Three youth are beheaded for putting up anti-ISIS posters.
2016.02.29 Yemen Aden 4 5 A Shahid suicide bomber snuffs out four other souls.
2016.02.29 DRC Ntombi 13 0 Four women are among thirteen villagers found hacked to pieces by ADF Islamists.
2016.02.29 Nigeria Badarawa 15 22 Suspected Boko Haram surround a group of villagers gathered to watch a video and pour machine gun fire into them, killing at least fifteen.
2016.02.29 Syria Deir ez-Zor 3 0 Three men are crucified by a Sharia court for crimes against Allah.
2016.02.28 Iraq Abu Ghraib 24 22 Two dozen Iraqis are shot or blown apart during a Fedayeen suicide attack by ISIS.
2016.02.28 Iraq Baghdad 78 112 Seventy-eight people at a packed market in a Shiite area are exterminated by two Sunni suicide bombers.
2016.02.28 Egypt al-Arish 1 0 A man is shot to death in front of his home by the Islamic State.
2016.02.28 Somalia Baidoa 30 60 At least thirty civilians and first responders are slaughtered by a twin suicide attack near a restaurant.
2016.02.28 Afghanistan Lashkar Gah 3 11 Three souls are snuffed out by an explosive device planted by Sharia proponents.
2016.02.28 Afghanistan Qads 1 0 A tribal elder is tortured to death by religious extremists.
2016.02.27 Afghanistan Bolan 2 0 The Taliban wipe out two local police with a roadside bomb.
2016.02.27 Afghanistan Asadabad 12 40 A dozen people lose their lives to a suicide blast along a city street, including three brothers.
2016.02.27 Afghanistan Nangarhar 1 5 Taliban bombers take out a civilian.
2016.02.27 Syria Salamiya 2 3 An ISIS suicide bomber takes at least two others with him.
2016.02.27 Afghanistan Kabul 15 31 A suicide bomber targets a bus, killing fifteen passengers and bystanders.
2016.02.27 Syria Teeba 4 4 Four villagers lose their lives to an Islamic State suicide bomber.
2016.02.27 Syria Deir Ezzor 3 12 Three children are disassembled by Sunni mortars.
2016.02.27 Egypt Rafah 2 2 Two local security personnel are cut down by an Islamist bomb.
2016.02.27 Iraq Abu Ghraib 2 9 Jihadis bomb an outdoor market, killing two patrons.
2016.02.27 Iraq Baghdad 5 25 A series of Mujahideen blasts leave five dead.
2016.02.27 Syria Ajila 2 4 A suicide car bomber takes out two village guards.
2016.02.27 Pakistan Qayum 1 2 A Muslim shouts a religious slur and fires into a Christian home, killing a 17-year-old boy.
2016.02.26 Somalia Mogadishu 14 30 Holy Warriors attack a 'Youth League' hotel with bombs and gunfire, laying out fourteen innocents.
2016.02.26 Syria al-Zahra 1 0 A child is killed by Jabhat al-Nusra.
2016.02.26 Egypt Giza 1 1 Fundamentalists open fire on two traffic cops, killing one.
2016.02.26 Germany Hanover 0 1 A 'radicalized' teen girl stabs a female police officer.
2016.02.25 Somalia Mogadishu 4 8 Four civilians lose their lives to an al-Shabaab attack.
2016.02.25 Iraq Baghdad 15 50 Two Sunni suicide bombers detonate at a Shiite mosque, slaughtering at least fifteen worshippers.
2016.02.24 Libya Sabratha 12 0 A dozen local security agents are captured and beheaded by ISIS.
2016.02.24 Mali Timbuktu 3 2 Islamists attack a checkpoint, killing three defenders.
2016.02.24 Afghanistan Kabul 7 0 The Taliban kill seven Afghans over a 24-hour period.
2016.02.24 Syria Dayr al-Zawr 2 14 Sunni rockets take out two civilians.
2016.02.24 Syria Aleppo 10 5 Seven children are among ten civilians disassembled by two Sunni mortar rounds.
2016.02.24 Iraq Mosul 1 0 An imam is beheaded by Religion of Peace rivals.
2016.02.24 Nigeria Agatu 300 0 Radical Islamic mercenaries sweep through a series of Christian villages and slaughter over three hundred, including pregnant women and children.
2016.02.23 Iraq Fallujah 12 0 A dozen Iraqis are caught trying to flee the caliphate, marched to the city center and executed.
2016.02.23 Syria Hamidiya 2 0 Two teenage girls are stoned for adultery.
2016.02.23 Iraq Hawija 4 0 Four young people are executed by ISIS after members call for 'repentance'.
2016.02.23 Syria Deir Ezzor 2 14 Two civilians are pulled apart by a Sunni mortar blast.
2016.02.23 Iraq Yusufiya 1 9 Terrorists bomb a vegetable market, killing one person.
2016.02.23 Syria Raqqa 1 0 Radicals execute a man for 'apostasy'.
2016.02.22 Philippines Tugaya 1 0 Muslim terrorists murder a local soldier guarding a village
2016.02.22 Iraq Ramadi 8 0 Eight people are killed in their own homes by ISIS booby-traps.
2016.02.22 India Pompore 3 0 Three more people are killed by Lashkar-e-Toiba.
2016.02.22 Iraq Ramadi 6 10 An ISIS assault leaves six town defenders dead.
2016.02.22 Afghanistan Jabba 2 2 Religious fundamentalists murder two local cops.
2016.02.22 Afghanistan Parwan 13 19 A suicide bomber detonates near a clinic, taking thirteen other souls with him.
2016.02.22 Afghanistan Baghlan 1 2 A Taliban rocket takes out an Afghan citizen.

"It's just a few bad apples"

"Refugees welcome"

Daywolf
03-24-2016, 04:55 AM
nah

and your "research" is infowars level reptilian president hogwash. bitch.
(almost missed this post) Infowars, my feline friend? nnnnnn... I listen to the show sometimes on the radio (or live stream depending on the topic), once in a while anyway, but not really one of my typical research sites per se. Like I mentioned when I posted that vid reply last week, I'm considered a dissident by Jones' fat mouth. But the guy (https://www.youtube.com/user/PrisonPlanetLive) that does reporting for infowars now, he isn't sporting all the wacko issues Jones has. But way more down to earth (https://youtu.be/hFyhY8WVCm0), and more entertaining nonetheless.

Nah, I typically use google advanced search, but a few other tools/sites as well. Notice most of my source links are all over the spectrum, not just ideologue sites. Just the story needs to check out, I'll often cross reference before posting and even listen, watch or read at least 80% of the content (some often is redundant word for word when cross referencing). I try to vet stuff as best I can anyway. I actually had a college double-session on researching using the internet and deep archive searches etc. Light bulb went on and I still practice research in ways that the instructor outlined. A lot of white-noise out there now though.

Anyway most of that reptilian stuff is anti-Semite junk when presented. When have I ever posted like that, eh? I'm not a reptilian theorist by far, there are no underground cities sporting heat stones and glass walls. Some elitist humans down there though... or think they are. You got a brain, start using it before it withers away.

But it's interesting they hit a soft target in the capital of the EU. Some are adamantly calling false flag by the way it went down. The devil is in the details, I guess.

sOurDieSel
03-24-2016, 11:29 AM
Infowars, Anyway most of that reptilian stuff is anti-Semite junk when presented.

Pretty sure the reptile guy is David Icke. Alex Jones goes on about the New World Order and hasn't yet realized it is really the Jew World Order. Either way, comparing Jews to reptiles is insulting to reptiles.

Jarnauga
03-24-2016, 12:37 PM
Well yeah, the way it is, many of the Europeans will need to flee Europe and the muslim hoards and then migrate to the US in the next 5-7yrs. .

I literally have more than 3 times more chances to get murdered in the USA than in my country. Definitely sounds like i'd be safer there..

Of course it's not the first time morons like you distort tje truth to suit their agendas (https://youtu.be/u-tTHmrsXB8)

You really have to be delusional to believe such crap. But that's fine, been hearing it for 15 years now.

sOurDieSel
03-24-2016, 12:42 PM
Please stay in your country then, the USA is full.

maskedmelon
03-24-2016, 12:47 PM
I literally have more than 3 times more chances to get murdered in the USA than in my country. Definitely sounds like i'd be safer there..

Of course it's not the first time morons like you distort tje truth to suit their agendas (https://youtu.be/u-tTHmrsXB8)

You really have to be delusional to believe such crap. But that's fine, been hearing it for 15 years now.

The U.S has infinitely more experience with immigration the the whole of Europe combined. Historically, immigrants have been treated unfairly. After a generation or two though, they assimilate and problems for and from them generally dissipate.

Your greater chances of being murdered in the US are limited to large Urban areas that pride themselves on multi-culturalism. When divergent cultures (ethnicity is unrelated so don't go there) are encouraged to develop alongside one another, it fosters resentment all around. Consider US urban zones the destination of the socialist retardation embraced by your homogenous society.

Jarnauga
03-24-2016, 01:15 PM
The U.S has infinitely more experience with immigration the the whole of Europe combined. Historically, immigrants have been treated unfairly. After a generation or two though, they assimilate and problems for and from them generally dissipate.

Your greater chances of being murdered in the US are limited to large Urban areas that pride themselves on multi-culturalism. When divergent cultures (ethnicity is unrelated so don't go there) are encouraged to develop alongside one another, it fosters resentment all around. Consider US urban zones the destination of the socialist retardation embraced by your homogenous society.

Ok thanks so you have to live in a shithole in the middle of nowhere to be safe, got it. It sounds more and more appealing. Apparently my life expectancy would drop by at least 2 years and my children would have 85% (!) more chance to die in infancy. Not even worth mentioning that i'd probably have less free time overall to perma-camp lodizal :(

You guys should really wake up and stop behaving like a bunch of bullying toddlers "hurr im the best the rest if y'all are shitstains durr". At least i find comfort in knowing that you are not all thinking this way.. Just like muslims. Or christians. Or elfsim players. All that reminded me of https://youtu.be/VMqcLUqYqrs

Pokesan
03-24-2016, 01:19 PM
the chick with the sign in that video has a huge bush lol ive seen it on the internet

vary naice!!

maskedmelon
03-24-2016, 01:37 PM
Ok thanks so you have to live in a shithole in the middle of nowhere to be safe, got it. It sounds more and more appealing. Apparently my life expectancy would drop by at least 2 years and my children would have 85% (!) more chance to die in infancy. Not even worth mentioning that i'd probably have less free time overall to perma-camp lodizal :(



Your future :/


You guys should really wake up and stop behaving like a bunch of bullying toddlers "hurr im the best the rest if y'all are shitstains durr". At least i find comfort in knowing that you are not all thinking this way.. Just like muslims. Or christians. Or elfsim players. All that reminded me of https://youtu.be/VMqcLUqYqrs

Well, America is the best and it is because of immigration, not despite it. Over half of Ph.D.s from US institutions go to "foreigners". Because they leave their shitholes to come here for the opportunity of a better life. Those who succeed do so because they share the principal component of American tradition: Individual Responsibility. The problem with urban areas is that many people detest the idea of individual responsibility and peddle the perversion of collective responsibility.

Seltius
03-24-2016, 01:43 PM
Ok thanks so you have to live in a shithole in the middle of nowhere to be safe, got it. It sounds more and more appealing. Apparently my life expectancy would drop by at least 2 years and my children would have 85% (!) more chance to die in infancy. Not even worth mentioning that i'd probably have less free time overall to perma-camp lodizal :(

You guys should really wake up and stop behaving like a bunch of bullying toddlers "hurr im the best the rest if y'all are shitstains durr". At least i find comfort in knowing that you are not all thinking this way.. Just like muslims. Or christians. Or elfsim players. All that reminded me of https://youtu.be/VMqcLUqYqrs

Problem is the radicals or racists or hateful people you mention are just the most vocal it is and has always been like this. The vocal few cast a shadow over the silent majority. It goes that way for everything. In rare instances the silent majority has stepped up in smaller masses to oppose things they saw as wrong and have been able to make a difference but it is rare and doesn't always have the impact that is desired. We may not agree with some causes but that doesn't mean they are wrong.


Take these forums as a perfect example. Not everyone that plays P99 fits the image that the more vocal people here portray. If you look at RNF you really only see a handful of the more vocal people that may or may not have a reason to dislike each other but they manage to make everyone look bad. If you look at the guild forums or other forums you many get a different perspective about the players but again it isn't the majority posting in these places so you only get a small sampling of the population to form an opinion based off of.

Lune
03-24-2016, 01:45 PM
Ok thanks so you have to live in a shithole in the middle of nowhere to be safe, got it. It sounds more and more appealing. Apparently my life expectancy would drop by at least 2 years and my children would have 85% (!) more chance to die in infancy. Not even worth mentioning that i'd probably have less free time overall to perma-camp lodizal :(

You guys should really wake up and stop behaving like a bunch of bullying toddlers "hurr im the best the rest if y'all are shitstains durr". At least i find comfort in knowing that you are not all thinking this way.. Just like muslims. Or christians. Or elfsim players. All that reminded me of https://youtu.be/VMqcLUqYqrs

The foundation of your post isn't wrong; quality of life in the US is pretty much second rate compared to many parts of Europe. And that vid is one of my favorites.

But "having to live in the middle of nowhere to be safe" isn't how it works here. You just have to earn enough money not to live among the poor or among our parallel societies. There are plenty of nicer areas in all our cities.

I'm a huge admirer of Europe, I think you do so many things better than we do. That's why multiculturalism makes me cringe... I don't want to see you throw it away.

Pretty much this attitude is what is wrong here:

Well, America is the best and it is because of immigration, not despite it. Over half of Ph.D.s from US institutions go to "foreigners". Because they leave their shitholes to come here for the opportunity of a better life. Those who succeed do so because they share the principal component of American tradition: Individual Responsibility. The problem with urban areas is that many people detest the idea of individual responsibility and peddle the perversion of collective responsibility.

Bootstrappers and American exceptionalism. "Fuck you I got mine"

derpcake
03-24-2016, 01:57 PM
Your future :/

so hypothetically our future is as shitty as your current reality?

strong point, shots fired

derpcake
03-24-2016, 01:59 PM
lol that's derpcake in Belgium on a green screen.

i think the dagger and suit match my eyes

the chick with the sign in that video has a huge bush lol ive seen it on the internet

vary naice!!

try harder, you are close to most retarded poster in thread, yet far

Blitzers
03-24-2016, 02:14 PM
That sounds like something the dems said when they were doing their filibuster against the civil rights act (1964). Always these dippy Dems pointing fingers, quite literally psychological projection at it's finest. I may not be a Republican, but I sure as hell aint a Dem.

Really, man, what was so wrong with P.L. 88–352 ?

"Prohibited discrimination in public accommodations, facilities, and schools. Outlawed discrimination in federally funded projects. Created the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission to monitor employment discrimination in public and private sectors. Provided additional capacities to enforce voting rights. Extended the Civil Rights Commission for four years. Passed by the 88th Congress (1963–1965) as H.R. 7152."

No one cares about that, the only thing that matters is JFK got MLK released from prison. Democrats could enslave blacks in Government housing and promote killing their unborn children and they'd still vote for the Demoncrats.

MrSparkle001
03-24-2016, 02:19 PM
I literally have more than 3 times more chances to get murdered in the USA than in my country. Definitely sounds like i'd be safer there..
[URL="https://youtu.be/u-tTHmrsXB8"]


That's only true if you go to the ghetto of Detroit, Chicago, Camden NJ etc. They inflate those statistics so much it makes it seem this country is a violent hellhole. The media doesn't help that perception either.

Blitzers
03-24-2016, 02:24 PM
Ok thanks so you have to live in a shithole in the middle of nowhere to be safe, got it. It sounds more and more appealing. Apparently my life expectancy would drop by at least 2 years and my children would have 85% (!) more chance to die in infancy. Not even worth mentioning that i'd probably have less free time overall to perma-camp lodizal :(

You guys should really wake up and stop behaving like a bunch of bullying toddlers "hurr im the best the rest if y'all are shitstains durr". At least i find comfort in knowing that you are not all thinking this way.. Just like muslims. Or christians. Or elfsim players. All that reminded me of https://youtu.be/VMqcLUqYqrs

^^^ agree with video

The only way to make America Great again is to restore the Constitution. Vote Ted Cruz

iruinedyourday
03-24-2016, 02:24 PM
That's only true if you go to the ghetto of Detroit, Chicago, Camden NJ etc. They inflate those statistics so much it makes it seem this country is a violent hellhole. The media doesn't help that perception either.

lol @ this fuckn dude saying this about the USA while not being able to comprehend the reasons the media has made him fear muslims

Blitzers
03-24-2016, 02:44 PM
The foundation of your post isn't wrong; quality of life in the US is pretty much second rate compared to many parts of Europe. And that vid is one of my favorites.

But "having to live in the middle of nowhere to be safe" isn't how it works here. You just have to earn enough money not to live among the poor or among our parallel societies. There are plenty of nicer areas in all our cities.

I'm a huge admirer of Europe, I think you do so many things better than we do. That's why multiculturalism makes me cringe... I don't want to see you throw it away.

Pretty much this attitude is what is wrong here:



Bootstrappers and American exceptionalism. "Fuck you I got mine"

Europe is nothing to be admired, European nations freedom only exist because of the protection the USA provides. Yes they don't need to spend billions of Euros on defense because the USA provides it. You have that luxury to waste your money on failing and bankrupt social programs. This reminds me of the quote in a few good men. Edited slightly to encompass the current state of the world.

USA says: Euros we live in a world that has walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lieutenant Euro? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Muslims, and you curse the USA. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know -- that Islam's death, while tragic, saves lives; and my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives.

"I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to Euros who rise and sleep under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it."

Pokesan
03-24-2016, 02:58 PM
maybe don't bastardize movie quotes as part of your political argument it makes you seem like an idiot child

maskedmelon
03-24-2016, 03:02 PM
Pretty much this attitude is what is wrong here:



Bootstrappers and American exceptionalism. "Fuck you I got mine"

It's not a matter of "Fuck you I got mine." It's simple recognition that people learn through participation. They learn to converse by conversing. They learn social moors by practicing social moors. They learn to calculate by calculating. They learn to ride a bike by riding a nike. They learn success by being successful.

Others can assist by sharing information, but at the end of the day the individual has a choice to participate and endeavor to learn or to not. Conversing for someone does not help them become better at conversation. Completing math problems for children does not help them become better at math. Giving people money does not help them learn to earn/manage money.

Hard work does pay off and there is a reason it is infinitely more respected than talent: it is a path by which [i]anyone[i] may compete/succeed.

Jarnauga
03-24-2016, 03:16 PM
European nations freedom only exist because of the protection the USA provides.

Cringe

Blitzers
03-24-2016, 03:17 PM
maybe don't bastardize movie quotes as part of your political argument it makes you seem like an idiot child

Said the man holding up Pokemon cards... Lol

I've tried quoting historians, founding fathers, etc. to no avail. Thought I'd try a new tact, something you could relate with, son. I see I will have to go simpler on your mind, lemme go find some cartoon character quotes now to help you comprehend, you wasically wabbit.

Seltius
03-24-2016, 03:30 PM
Said the man holding up Pokemon cards... Lol

I've tried quoting historians, founding fathers, etc. to no avail. Thought I'd try a new tact, something you could relate with, son. I see I will have to go simpler on your mind, lemme go find some cartoon character quotes now to help you comprehend, you wasically wabbit.

Go with Wiley Coyote might work.

Blitzers
03-24-2016, 03:40 PM
Go with Wiley Coyote might work.

Nah, Pokesan is a Patrick the Starfish type.

Patriam1066
03-24-2016, 04:09 PM
I literally have more than 3 times more chances to get murdered in the USA than in my country. Definitely sounds like i'd be safer there..

Of course it's not the first time morons like you distort tje truth to suit their agendas (https://youtu.be/u-tTHmrsXB8)

You really have to be delusional to believe such crap. But that's fine, been hearing it for 15 years now.

Yes, we know that the 94% of French citizens who aren't Muslim are mostly nonviolent. But what about your Algerian brothers living in France?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/28/AR2008042802560.html

60-70% of France's prison population is Islamic. Sacrebleu!!!!

Blitzers
03-24-2016, 04:12 PM
Cringe

Yes, I would cringe too , if I was incapable of defending myself.

MrSparkle001
03-24-2016, 04:13 PM
lol @ this fuckn dude saying this about the USA while not being able to comprehend the reasons the media has made him fear muslims

You know I have an imam customer and his wife who are very devout (she wears a full black hijab and you can't even see her eyes) and are really nice people. They're a pleasure to help.

So don't give me that crap.

maskedmelon
03-24-2016, 04:31 PM
Yes, we know that the 94% of French citizens who aren't Muslim are mostly nonviolent. But what about your Algerian brothers living in France?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/28/AR2008042802560.html

60-70% of France's prison population is Islamic. Sacrebleu!!!!

Outside of Texas we all know the reason for this is the same as the reason for ethnic imbalances in US prison populations: racism.

The French and their European brothers along with the US need to learn to be more tolerant and do more to ensure success of people who come to their countries.

If you let somebody into your house and then refuse to feed him, don't complain when he stabs you and raids your refrigerator.

Jarnauga
03-24-2016, 04:34 PM
Yes, we know that the 94% of French citizens who aren't Muslim are mostly nonviolent. But what about your Algerian brothers living in France?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/28/AR2008042802560.html

60-70% of France's prison population is Islamic. Sacrebleu!!!!


..and ? They should be treated differently because they're muslims ? Do you think they're should be special laws for blacks/hispanics in the US since they make uo for the majority of the inmates..? Do you think they have some kind of genetic deficiency that make them more prone to crime..? Or is it their culture that makes them this way..? Do you think they should be separated from the "wasps"..?

Edit: also can't help noticing that apparently the issue for you is that they're " algerians", not that they're muslims.. You're slipping ;)

Yes, I would cringe too , if I was incapable of defending myself.

http://i.imgur.com/JRuhBRd.png

Patriam1066
03-24-2016, 05:42 PM
..and ? They should be treated differently because they're muslims ? Do you think they're should be special laws for blacks/hispanics in the US since they make uo for the majority of the inmates..? Do you think they have some kind of genetic deficiency that make them more prone to crime..? Or is it their culture that makes them this way..? Do you think they should be separated from the "wasps"..?

Edit: also can't help noticing that apparently the issue for you is that they're " algerians", not that they're muslims.. You're slipping ;)



http://i.imgur.com/JRuhBRd.png

Im Persian. I have zero problems with you being an Algerian. I didn't want to say Muslims twice in two sentences because rhetoric should be effective :)

My issue is that you're clearly not assimilating. Despite what you say, you aren't benefitting the people of France. You're occupying prisons, killing cartoonists, and shooting up concerts. You're blowing up airport terminals. In Afghanistan, you're selling 12 year old girls into marriage contracts. I'd go through every country where Muslims live, but the list would be exhaustive.

As for blacks and Hispanics, I'm not a proponent of massive immigration in the US either. The western world isn't a humanitarian experiment designed to feed, house, and clothe everyone on earth to the detriment of its citizens. The United States, France, Germany, Belgium, etc, are sovereign nations whose first duty isn't to refugees from Syria that often time gangrape women and shoot up music festivals, it's to their citizens. I'm sorry if you find that racist or offensive, but I repeat: I owe you nothing. My country owes you nothing. My children owe yours nothing. Make your culture and society successful, or don't. Be my guest, either way. But don't continue to produce failed states (due to the misogyny, anti-science thought, homophobia, and authoritarianism of Islam) and simultaneously expect everyone else to bend over backwards to help you. I have no doubt that you benefitted from moving to France. The question is, have you enriched France? Even if the answer to that question is yes, you'd be the exception, not the rule. France, Europe, and the anglosphere have unquestionably not benefitted in any way from massive Islamic immigration.

Blitzers
03-24-2016, 06:03 PM
..and ? They should be treated differently because they're muslims ? Do you think they're should be special laws for blacks/hispanics in the US since they make uo for the majority of the inmates..? Do you think they have some kind of genetic deficiency that make them more prone to crime..? Or is it their culture that makes them this way..? Do you think they should be separated from the "wasps"..?

Edit: also can't help noticing that apparently the issue for you is that they're " algerians", not that they're muslims.. You're slipping ;)



http://i.imgur.com/JRuhBRd.png

Nice fictional story, especially the part where you rush the "so called" American, take the gun and imprison him. I can't wait for Putin to unleash his terror on your self-indulgent ungrateful culture. Dećeś la France

P.S. We all know your frenchy police don't care guns either.

Daywolf
03-24-2016, 06:40 PM
Pretty sure the reptile guy is David Icke. Alex Jones goes on about the New World Order and hasn't yet realized it is really the Jew World Order. Either way, comparing Jews to reptiles is insulting to reptiles.

Oh that guy. I only mention it since Pok3$& is alwasy trying to call people out for being lizard lickers or something (tired old line), like zombie frogs or something. I've heard that guy a few times, I think with Jones one time (seemed to make an impact on him) and a couple times with George Noory (He sux, Art bell is/was 1000x better, and John B. Wells was even a ton better as host, every other host sucked on c2c).

As for Jones, You must have missed his earlier rantings. He's waaay toned it down in recent years. He was losing a lot of his audience with his flame rants on exactly what you just mentioned. He in fact does believe it's a jewish conspiracy, and probably about everything else as being linked to the jews. And not just the jews, but everyone is fully eyes wide open supporting it who doesn't see it, or has some smidgen of inclination of that of Israels right to exist. I mean seriously, he took it to the point where it seemed like he lost his mind, literally, a crazed lunatic; and his mind telling him everyone knew of it, was in on it, but just wouldn't admit it openly, full spectrum paranoia. If "full retard" is defined in the dictionary, his name wouldn't be in there, just way too far beyond that.

Lune
03-24-2016, 06:52 PM
It's not a matter of "Fuck you I got mine." It's simple recognition that people learn through participation. They learn to converse by conversing. They learn social moors by practicing social moors. They learn to calculate by calculating. They learn to ride a bike by riding a nike. They learn success by being successful.

Others can assist by sharing information, but at the end of the day the individual has a choice to participate and endeavor to learn or to not. Conversing for someone does not help them become better at conversation. Completing math problems for children does not help them become better at math. Giving people money does not help them learn to earn/manage money.

Hard work does pay off and there is a reason it is infinitely more respected than talent: it is a path by which [i]anyone[i] may compete/succeed.

Yea that sounds reasonable when you wrongfully reduce civic duty down to some caricature of welfare where you're taking $20 bills out of Johnny Middle Class's wallet and giving it to LeQuandaroga and her 8 kids.

Collective responsibility isn't about giving people things, it's about enriching the entire nation by creating opportunity and investing in society itself. Believe it or not, there is often a culture tied to poverty, and people born into poverty are likely to stay that way. It's a cycle. They are less likely to ever develop the skills to flourish in modern society.

I was born wealthy. My parents had their shit together. They read to me every night, I ate nutritious food, grew up tall, strong, smart, and healthy. They took me on summer vacations all around the country, taught me about ethics, the value of hard work and educational attainment, sent me to exceptional schools, helped me network, paid for my college, my car, and taught me fiscal discipline.

Meanwhile, there were kids growing up in Los Angeles who had never even seen the ocean 30 miles away, whose parents didn't give a fuck, and taught them negative, self-destructive behaviors. What chance did those kids have to end up successful, functional, high-achieving adults? It's not impossible; people rise up out of poverty every day, but that is the exception, not the norm. And it's not because one day they made a choice "Yea I'm gonna be a lazy criminal fuck and do nothing with my life", it's because sociological determinism is real, the culture you are raised with has a profound impact on who you become, and opportunity is important. Culture, including the settings and values with which you are raised, effects you down to the way your prefrontal cortex is wired.

That's the underlying reasoning for why we endeavor toward lower tax rates for poorer people, food stamps, need-based college scholarships, and stuff like that. It doesn't just help them overcome their circumstances, it benefits society as a whole by disrupting the cycle of poverty. When you help the poor, you're not just doing it to help them, you're helping everybody. Because poor people are fucking awful and we don't want them making more poor people. Study after study after study has shown that when there is infrastructure in place to give people opportunity, social mobility increases, poverty decreases, and society improves.

Also I hope you aren't Christian because having contempt for the poor, the less fortunate, or the inferior are just about the least Christian cognitions you can have. How the religious right deals with the cognitive dissonance I have no clue.

/positivism

Daywolf
03-24-2016, 07:01 PM
No one cares about that, the only thing that matters is JFK got MLK released from prison. Democrats could enslave blacks in Government housing and promote killing their unborn children and they'd still vote for the Demoncrats.
People care about it, recognize it, but it's just not a liberal/libtard talking point, and of course the libtards want to keep it out of sight out of mind. This becomes especially significant as documents and recordings are being released to the public now from that era, declassified stuff under the freedom of information act. They have learned their lesson since then though, now people like Hillary just outright break the law and strips all her communiqués from the illegal private hard drive. A dictatorship in the making.

Jarnauga
03-24-2016, 07:18 PM
Im Persian. I have zero problems with you being an Algerian. I didn't want to say Muslims twice in two sentences because rhetoric should be effective :)

My issue is that you're clearly not assimilating. Despite what you say, you aren't benefitting the people of France. You're occupying prisons, killing cartoonists, and shooting up concerts. You're blowing up airport terminals. In Afghanistan, you're selling 12 year old girls into marriage contracts. I'd go through every country where Muslims live, but the list would be exhaustive.

As for blacks and Hispanics, I'm not a proponent of massive immigration in the US either. The western world isn't a humanitarian experiment designed to feed, house, and clothe everyone on earth to the detriment of its citizens. The United States, France, Germany, Belgium, etc, are sovereign nations whose first duty isn't to refugees from Syria that often time gangrape women and shoot up music festivals, it's to their citizens. I'm sorry if you find that racist or offensive, but I repeat: I owe you nothing. My country owes you nothing. My children owe yours nothing. Make your culture and society successful, or don't. Be my guest, either way. But don't continue to produce failed states (due to the misogyny, anti-science thought, homophobia, and authoritarianism of Islam) and simultaneously expect everyone else to bend over backwards to help you. I have no doubt that you benefitted from moving to France. The question is, have you enriched France? Even if the answer to that question is yes, you'd be the exception, not the rule. France, Europe, and the anglosphere have unquestionably not benefitted in any way from massive Islamic immigration.

..im not algerian :D

You're mixing so many things. First the terrorists were mostly french. Not syrian refugees. They were born in france. But apparently you seem to think that nationality is dependant on skin color, cf: "As for blacks and Hispanics, I'm not a proponent of massive immigration in the US either." <= Blacks are immigrants ? what the fuck is wrong with you, black people have been living on american soil for centuries. If they're not american, i guess you are not either. ( => https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90U2IqXEvSM )

2nd: i thought persian was a language, not a nationality. I guess you mean that your family is from Iran originally. ANd that's actually why i don't get you: for some reason you seem to admit that you're a perfectly good citizen of the US, but other people in the exact same situation just can't because, well, they're terrorists because they are and that's it.

3rd: so what should we do about the refugees exactly ? sink their boats while they're on the mediterranean sea ? maybe build a wall like your dumbass of a candidate is seriously proposing ? (still laughing my ass off about people actually thinking it's a credible solution).

4th: the word "assimilation" is a bad word. But maybe we don't think of the same meaning. The only thing that matters when you live in a country is to accept the laws and rules of that country. I don't care that you're muslim. You can go to your mosque if you want, i'll even accept to help you find commodities to practice your faith. THe only thing i care is that you're not gonna stone anyone, or not gonna try to bomb an abortion clinic if you're christian.

5th: I laughed a bit when you said "the misogyny, anti-science thought, homophobia, and authoritarianism of Islam" <= pretty much every religion have that. There's actually US senators that think the earth is 5000 years old and that evolution is a lie from the devil to make young people fornicate.. if that's not anti-science, then what is ..? Not even gonna quote the "stone women" part of the bible because i guess you already heard of it. Oh and yeah, it's not just muslims and christians. Orthodox jews are fucking crazy. I also heard about buddhists killing muslims. Yep. Buddhists. i kid you not.

My point is: religion is pretty much what you make of it. You can't reduce someone, or a whole people to a religion. In france these days there's a pedophilia scandal about some catholic priests.. do you think anyone is saying that catholics = pedophiles ? of course not. In the charlie hebdo shootings, one cop that was also muslim tried to stop them and died (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4Gf1ODivag). In the hyper cacher hostages situation, a malian muslim that was not even legally on the french soil hid hostages from the terrorist (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRK9CTo2ix4), probably saving their lives. I choose to remember these guys. You choose to remember the terrorists.

Nice fictional story, especially the part where you rush the "so called" American, take the gun and imprison him. I can't wait for Putin to unleash his terror on your self-indulgent ungrateful culture. Dećeś la France

P.S. We all know your frenchy police don't care guns either.

Yep. We kill terrorists with sticks and stones. Cf 1 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjWsKuZjAOc) , 2 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQfzltS4W1s) , 3 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBxFJsa_hbQ) , 4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mX6T7_Mj0BI) , 5 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdqGiSUDGZo) .. \o/ (http://i.imgur.com/sNiBDOc.jpg)

iruinedyourday
03-24-2016, 07:19 PM
You know I have an imam customer and his wife who are very devout (she wears a full black hijab and you can't even see her eyes) and are really nice people. They're a pleasure to help.

So don't give me that crap.

lol nvermind this guy aint racist, a black guy shops at the gas station he works at. :rolleyes:

Csihar
03-24-2016, 07:21 PM
Fuck you iruinedyourday, the correct term is absence of light guy.

Pokesan
03-24-2016, 07:30 PM
3rd: so what should we do about the refugees exactly ? sink their boats while they're on the mediterranean sea ? maybe build a wall like your dumbass of a candidate is seriously proposing ? (still laughing my ass off about people actually thinking it's a credible solution).


just so you know - a lot of trump supporters realize the futility of a wall, but don't care because while no candidate stands a chance of governing effectively, we are convinced his attempt will be entertaining

Daywolf
03-24-2016, 07:51 PM
I literally have more than 3 times more chances to get murdered in the USA than in my country. Definitely sounds like i'd be safer there..

Of course it's not the first time morons like you distort tje truth to suit their agendas (https://youtu.be/u-tTHmrsXB8)

You really have to be delusional to believe such crap. But that's fine, been hearing it for 15 years now.
You miss my point, I'm speaking of 5-7yrs from now as I mentioned. Europe is going to burn. At that point, Europeans will be on their knees begging to get into North America. Not all, some will surrender, comply, either becoming islam converts or being 3rd class citizens in full subjection. Europe is being invaded to it's doom at this very moment. You are all in extreme danger for your lives.

And as I mentioned, the alternative will be a desperate and bloody push back. That is more the thing I see happening there. It'll be ugly, and a nasty dictator will likely rise out of it as happened a number of times through European history that tends to repeat itself.

As for the US, that's propaganda to pad your cell. If you understand the truth, you might just very well do such a thing just as all my family fled from western europe long ago to the US. And if you did that, they couldn't use your body to fling against the invading hoards. Of which the result of that may be victory, but you will get a nasty dictator out of it, and the long sought after EU unity that has been so elusive to this point.

But more specifically for the US, it's been mostly addressed in this thread already. The stats are pretty much bogus. I live in the country now, for many years now, and absolutely love it. I grew up in LA, well a bicycle ride away from downtown. All that shit happens in places like that, where it's predominantly liberal dominated.

In fact many Europeans visiting here just love it, it's nothing like Europe. Those that move here assimilate happily and very well. I've only lost one friend, being murdered that is (lost a few to other bad things). But not murdered by Americans or legal immigrants, but by a couple of illegals that came over our southern border, invaded his house in the middle of the night, murdered him and stole his car.

But 5-7 years will be too late for you. You'll be in lock down soon enough, with no way out. They can't let you leave. There is other stuff going on right now, pieces moved around the board being set up for it. It's not just tough luck, they are allowing this to happen for a purpose, which I just told you why.

Daywolf
03-24-2016, 07:57 PM
just so you know - a lot of trump supporters realize the futility of a wall, but don't care because while no candidate stands a chance of governing effectively, we are convinced his attempt will be entertaining
I live in a border state, friggen hot-zone, you're comment is absurd. You have absolutely no idea what's going on.

Pokesan
03-24-2016, 08:08 PM
I live in a border state, friggen hot-zone, you're comment is absurd. You have absolutely no idea what's going on.


It's not absurd it's just a different opinion than yours.

What's not an opinion, however, is how utterly ineffective a wall would actually be, much less the clownshow of legislating its construction.

Jarnauga
03-24-2016, 08:36 PM
You miss my point, I'm speaking of 5-7yrs from now as I mentioned. Europe is going to burn. At that point, Europeans will be on their knees begging to get into North America. Not all, some will surrender, comply, either becoming islam converts or being 3rd class citizens in full subjection. Europe is being invaded to it's doom at this very moment. You are all in extreme danger for your lives.

And as I mentioned, the alternative will be a desperate and bloody push back. That is more the thing I see happening there. It'll be ugly, and a nasty dictator will likely rise out of it as happened a number of times through European history that tends to repeat itself.

As for the US, that's propaganda to pad your cell. If you understand the truth, you might just very well do such a thing just as all my family fled from western europe long ago to the US. And if you did that, they couldn't use your body to fling against the invading hoards. Of which the result of that may be victory, but you will get a nasty dictator out of it, and the long sought after EU unity that has been so elusive to this point.

But more specifically for the US, it's been mostly addressed in this thread already. The stats are pretty much bogus. I live in the country now, for many years now, and absolutely love it. I grew up in LA, well a bicycle ride away from downtown. All that shit happens in places like that, where it's predominantly liberal dominated.

In fact many Europeans visiting here just love it, it's nothing like Europe. Those that move here assimilate happily and very well. I've only lost one friend, being murdered that is (lost a few to other bad things). But not murdered by Americans or legal immigrants, but by a couple of illegals that came over our southern border, invaded his house in the middle of the night, murdered him and stole his car.

But 5-7 years will be too late for you. You'll be in lock down soon enough, with no way out. They can't let you leave. There is other stuff going on right now, pieces moved around the board being set up for it. It's not just tough luck, they are allowing this to happen for a purpose, which I just told you why.

Oh, the whole "Eurabia" myth at it again. "Muslims taking over europe" is another version of "Jews control the world".

http://www.pewforum.org/2011/01/27/the-future-of-the-global-muslim-population/
http://foreignpolicy.com/2010/01/04/eurabian-follies/
http://europe.newsweek.com/dispelling-myth-eurabia-81943?rm=eu

Etc, etc..

Hey funny quote from the pew research:
In the United States, for example, the population projections show the number of Muslims more than doubling over the next two decades, rising from 2.6 million in 2010 to 6.2 million in 2030, in large part because of immigration and higher-than-average fertility among Muslims. The Muslim share of the U.S. population (adults and children) is projected to grow from 0.8% in 2010 to 1.7% in 2030, making Muslims roughly as numerous as Jews or Episcopalians are in the United States today. Although several European countries will have substantially higher percentages of Muslims, the United States is projected to have a larger number of Muslims by 2030 than any European countries other than Russia and France.

So ? what are you guys waiting to show us poor dumb europeans the way ..? :D

Pokesan
03-24-2016, 10:11 PM
Yea that sounds reasonable when you wrongfully reduce civic duty down to some caricature of welfare where you're taking $20 bills out of Johnny Middle Class's wallet and giving it to LeQuandaroga and her 8 kids.

Collective responsibility isn't about giving people things, it's about enriching the entire nation by creating opportunity and investing in society itself. Believe it or not, there is often a culture tied to poverty, and people born into poverty are likely to stay that way. It's a cycle. They are less likely to ever develop the skills to flourish in modern society.

I was born wealthy. My parents had their shit together. They read to me every night, I ate nutritious food, grew up tall, strong, smart, and healthy. They took me on summer vacations all around the country, taught me about ethics, the value of hard work and educational attainment, sent me to exceptional schools, helped me network, paid for my college, my car, and taught me fiscal discipline.

Meanwhile, there were kids growing up in Los Angeles who had never even seen the ocean 30 miles away, whose parents didn't give a fuck, and taught them negative, self-destructive behaviors. What chance did those kids have to end up successful, functional, high-achieving adults? It's not impossible; people rise up out of poverty every day, but that is the exception, not the norm. And it's not because one day they made a choice "Yea I'm gonna be a lazy criminal fuck and do nothing with my life", it's because sociological determinism is real, the culture you are raised with has a profound impact on who you become, and opportunity is important. Culture, including the settings and values with which you are raised, effects you down to the way your prefrontal cortex is wired.

That's the underlying reasoning for why we endeavor toward lower tax rates for poorer people, food stamps, need-based college scholarships, and stuff like that. It doesn't just help them overcome their circumstances, it benefits society as a whole by disrupting the cycle of poverty. When you help the poor, you're not just doing it to help them, you're helping everybody. Because poor people are fucking awful and we don't want them making more poor people. Study after study after study has shown that when there is infrastructure in place to give people opportunity, social mobility increases, poverty decreases, and society improves.

Also I hope you aren't Christian because having contempt for the poor, the less fortunate, or the inferior are just about the least Christian cognitions you can have. How the religious right deals with the cognitive dissonance I have no clue.

/positivism

daddys little booj is all growed up

Blitzers
03-24-2016, 10:36 PM
..im not algerian :D

You're mixing so many things. First the terrorists were mostly french. Not syrian refugees. They were born in france. But apparently you seem to think that nationality is dependant on skin color, cf: "As for blacks and Hispanics, I'm not a proponent of massive immigration in the US either." <= Blacks are immigrants ? what the fuck is wrong with you, black people have been living on american soil for centuries. If they're not american, i guess you are not either. ( => https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90U2IqXEvSM )

2nd: i thought persian was a language, not a nationality. I guess you mean that your family is from Iran originally. ANd that's actually why i don't get you: for some reason you seem to admit that you're a perfectly good citizen of the US, but other people in the exact same situation just can't because, well, they're terrorists because they are and that's it.

3rd: so what should we do about the refugees exactly ? sink their boats while they're on the mediterranean sea ? maybe build a wall like your dumbass of a candidate is seriously proposing ? (still laughing my ass off about people actually thinking it's a credible solution).

4th: the word "assimilation" is a bad word. But maybe we don't think of the same meaning. The only thing that matters when you live in a country is to accept the laws and rules of that country. I don't care that you're muslim. You can go to your mosque if you want, i'll even accept to help you find commodities to practice your faith. THe only thing i care is that you're not gonna stone anyone, or not gonna try to bomb an abortion clinic if you're christian.

5th: I laughed a bit when you said "the misogyny, anti-science thought, homophobia, and authoritarianism of Islam" <= pretty much every religion have that. There's actually US senators that think the earth is 5000 years old and that evolution is a lie from the devil to make young people fornicate.. if that's not anti-science, then what is ..? Not even gonna quote the "stone women" part of the bible because i guess you already heard of it. Oh and yeah, it's not just muslims and christians. Orthodox jews are fucking crazy. I also heard about buddhists killing muslims. Yep. Buddhists. i kid you not.

My point is: religion is pretty much what you make of it. You can't reduce someone, or a whole people to a religion. In france these days there's a pedophilia scandal about some catholic priests.. do you think anyone is saying that catholics = pedophiles ? of course not. In the charlie hebdo shootings, one cop that was also muslim tried to stop them and died (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4Gf1ODivag). In the hyper cacher hostages situation, a malian muslim that was not even legally on the french soil hid hostages from the terrorist (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRK9CTo2ix4), probably saving their lives. I choose to remember these guys. You choose to remember the terrorists.



Yep. We kill terrorists with sticks and stones. Cf 1 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjWsKuZjAOc) , 2 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQfzltS4W1s) , 3 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBxFJsa_hbQ) , 4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mX6T7_Mj0BI) , 5 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdqGiSUDGZo) .. \o/ (http://i.imgur.com/sNiBDOc.jpg)

What terrorists? Aren't they what you call refugees. Lol

Daywolf
03-24-2016, 10:37 PM
Oh, the whole "Eurabia" myth at it again. "Muslims taking over europe" is another version of "Jews control the world".

http://www.pewforum.org/2011/01/27/the-future-of-the-global-muslim-population/
http://foreignpolicy.com/2010/01/04/eurabian-follies/
http://europe.newsweek.com/dispelling-myth-eurabia-81943?rm=eu

Etc, etc..
You are talking about world population growth and hip leftest libtard propaganda articles I already know exist, which I just told you why. I'll tell it to you again, you are being literally invaded, your life and the lives of your countrymen are in grave danger. You are listening to the filtered words of the leftist elitists (in their safe places), while your invaders are calling for your extermination (http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/09/muslim-cleric-on-refugee-influx-we-shall-conquer-their-countries), if you are really a European, anyway. Edit: (reads back a little) Algerian? I'm speaking of the muslim hoards. If you were like my irl friend that fled Iraq as a Catholic, well his attitude is a whole lot different than yours about the subject.

Jarnauga
03-25-2016, 12:05 AM
You are talking about world population growth and hip leftest libtard propaganda articles I already know exist, which I just told you why. I'll tell it to you again, you are being literally invaded, your life and the lives of your countrymen are in grave danger. You are listening to the filtered words of the leftist elitists (in their safe places), while your invaders are calling for your extermination (http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/09/muslim-cleric-on-refugee-influx-we-shall-conquer-their-countries), if you are really a European, anyway. Edit: (reads back a little) Algerian? I'm speaking of the muslim hoards. If you were like my irl friend that fled Iraq as a Catholic, well his attitude is a whole lot different than yours about the subject.

Wow, you can say that my country is "invaded" (even though you're half a world away) better than i that actually live here. Providing actual data and "hurr durr liberal propaganda durr"

http://i.imgur.com/u2tEdkI.gif

iruinedyourday
03-25-2016, 12:06 AM
why is the only threads that past page like 7 in OT are about terrorists jesus

Pokesan
03-25-2016, 12:17 AM
Wow, you can say that my country is "invaded" (even though you're half a world away) better than i that actually live here. Providing actual data and "hurr durr liberal propaganda durr"

http://i.imgur.com/u2tEdkI.gif

TIL - in France, prostitutes are allowed to write replies on bad internet message boards

Pokesan
03-25-2016, 12:35 AM
Oh that guy. I only mention it since Pok3$& is alwasy trying to call people out for being lizard lickers or something (tired old line), like zombie frogs or something. I've heard that guy a few times, I think with Jones one time (seemed to make an impact on him) and a couple times with George Noory (He sux, Art bell is/was 1000x better, and John B. Wells was even a ton better as host, every other host sucked on c2c).

As for Jones, You must have missed his earlier rantings. He's waaay toned it down in recent years. He was losing a lot of his audience with his flame rants on exactly what you just mentioned. He in fact does believe it's a jewish conspiracy, and probably about everything else as being linked to the jews. And not just the jews, but everyone is fully eyes wide open supporting it who doesn't see it, or has some smidgen of inclination of that of Israels right to exist. I mean seriously, he took it to the point where it seemed like he lost his mind, literally, a crazed lunatic; and his mind telling him everyone knew of it, was in on it, but just wouldn't admit it openly, full spectrum paranoia. If "full retard" is defined in the dictionary, his name wouldn't be in there, just way too far beyond that.

im not saying you believe in lizard reptile governmentaliens, I'm just saying your opinions are roughly as dumb.

hope this helps

my good chum

sOurDieSel
03-25-2016, 12:59 AM
As for Jones, You must have missed his earlier rantings. He's waaay toned it down in recent years. He was losing a lot of his audience with his flame rants on exactly what you just mentioned. He in fact does believe it's a jewish conspiracy, and probably about everything else as being linked to the jews. And not just the jews, but everyone is fully eyes wide open supporting it who doesn't see it, or has some smidgen of inclination of that of Israels right to exist. I mean seriously, he took it to the point where it seemed like he lost his mind, literally, a crazed lunatic; and his mind telling him everyone knew of it, was in on it, but just wouldn't admit it openly, full spectrum paranoia. If "full retard" is defined in the dictionary, his name wouldn't be in there, just way too far beyond that.

Hmmm, interesting. As far as I know Alex Jone's wife was Jewish but they divorced. Never saw him go on 'anti-semitic' rant unless you include talking about Palestine. He thinks the NWO is run by evil Nazis that escaped to Argentina with their secret Death Ray and The Holy Grail which is really the Philosopher's Stone.

Daywolf
03-25-2016, 01:10 AM
Wow, you can say that my country is "invaded" (even though you're half a world away) better than i that actually live here. Providing actual data and "hurr durr liberal propaganda durr"
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Well same as here, there are plenty of people living in mom's basement that have no idea what's going on outside. Meanwhile the clerics and imams are telling you exactly what they are doing, but you just sit back and parrot the words of the leftists that have everything to gain by a hostile invasion, imo. They are not just going to breed the Europeans out, they are going to blow things up as this thread is all about.

How is it you have apathy regarding the muslim invasion of Europe? Does it just not effect you? It does here, we don't want it. There is proportion and then there is invasion, especially with clerics calling for a take over. That is far from some conspiracy theory, they are screaming it right in the open.

And yeah, I know a lot of things about Europe, like how they poopoo assimilation. So you have islamisists that fit right into a non-assimilation deal, living life separate from everyone else. But here we don't like that, we're Americans first, and only. Europe is headed for extinction.


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BTW, The US State Department issued a travel warning to Europe. And a heightened security status in the US.

Seeing they hit the EU capital, I tend to take this as a deceleration of war, and expect more attacks to unfold in the coming months. Not that the war ever stopped...

Daywolf
03-25-2016, 01:23 AM
why is the only threads that past page like 7 in OT are about terrorists jesus
#racist
#trannyquest
#genderidentity
#iHatePoliticians
#bombings

I'll take #racist for 500.

Plus it's hard to bring out the full retard effect after the many bannings recently, so takes more posts to get the job done.

maskedmelon
03-25-2016, 09:44 AM
Yea that sounds reasonable when you wrongfully reduce civic duty down to some caricature of welfare where you're taking $20 bills out of Johnny Middle Class's wallet and giving it to LeQuandaroga and her 8 kids.

Collective responsibility isn't about giving people things, it's about enriching the entire nation by creating opportunity and investing in society itself. Believe it or not, there is often a culture tied to poverty, and people born into poverty are likely to stay that way. It's a cycle. They are less likely to ever develop the skills to flourish in modern society.

I was born wealthy. My parents had their shit together. They read to me every night, I ate nutritious food, grew up tall, strong, smart, and healthy. They took me on summer vacations all around the country, taught me about ethics, the value of hard work and educational attainment, sent me to exceptional schools, helped me network, paid for my college, my car, and taught me fiscal discipline.

Meanwhile, there were kids growing up in Los Angeles who had never even seen the ocean 30 miles away, whose parents didn't give a fuck, and taught them negative, self-destructive behaviors. What chance did those kids have to end up successful, functional, high-achieving adults? It's not impossible; people rise up out of poverty every day, but that is the exception, not the norm. And it's not because one day they made a choice "Yea I'm gonna be a lazy criminal fuck and do nothing with my life", it's because sociological determinism is real, the culture you are raised with has a profound impact on who you become, and opportunity is important. Culture, including the settings and values with which you are raised, effects you down to the way your prefrontal cortex is wired.

That's the underlying reasoning for why we endeavor toward lower tax rates for poorer people, food stamps, need-based college scholarships, and stuff like that. It doesn't just help them overcome their circumstances, it benefits society as a whole by disrupting the cycle of poverty. When you help the poor, you're not just doing it to help them, you're helping everybody. Because poor people are fucking awful and we don't want them making more poor people. Study after study after study has shown that when there is infrastructure in place to give people opportunity, social mobility increases, poverty decreases, and society improves.

Also I hope you aren't Christian because having contempt for the poor, the less fortunate, or the inferior are just about the least Christian cognitions you can have. How the religious right deals with the cognitive dissonance I have no clue.

/positivism

Well, in all sincerity good for you and kudos to your parents for raising a fine son. We're on the same page as far as the nature of poverty. We also seem to agree that subsidies do not remedy the source, they simply abate the symptoms. Stop the subsidy and the poverty returns. It's the reason why even in families that extricate themselves from poverty, you see returns to it in subsequent generations: culture. Indefinite subsidy does not afford society the greatest, or even second greatest benefit though, but you already know that. Reason does not deliver disparate conclusions. Motivation does though.

I live by three simple principles:

1. Work Hard
2. Be Responsible
3. Leave others alone

If everyone else did this, we'd enjoy a fantastically productive global society free of conflict. That is not going to happen though, because everyone else is not me and does not think like me, nor should they in a free world I suppose.

I harbor no contempt for the poor. My objection to subsidies is based in reason and the disappointing conclusion that charity is a detriment to society. I do not recognize such subsidies as investment whether consensual or coerced because it effects proliferation of a failed condition. That is of exceptional concern in a representative democracy given that human procreation suffers wildly from adverse selection thanks to divergent survival strategies accommodated by our social nature: quality vs. quantity. (This is why I align with leftist leaders in support organizations like Planned Parenthood. They directly combat poverty by throttling new inductees.)

The end result is you end up with an ever larger proportion of those who cannot care for themselves, until eventually the burden on the "haves" becomes so great that the society collapses and you are left with a nation if angry dullards, which are inevitably subjugated and abused by he among them who is most ambitious. Whether for within or out, societies always fall to barbarians. History is ride with examples.

Is it cold to say these things? Absolutely. Is it sad that other people endure pain and suffering? Absolutely and I understand and share the desire to help because witnessing pain and suffering is distressing to most people. It is one of the primary reasons people engage I charity. The others of course are guilt (penance for one's transgressions) and appreciation (people are often better able to appreciate and find happiness in their own lives by witnessing the distress in others').

At the end of the day, charity is a disservice both to the needy and to humanity. It prolongs and exacerbates suffering while stifling advancement all so that we can feel good about ourselves.

And no, I'm not Christian. I am agnostic, of the un-hyphenated variety. I have limited time to waste contemplating questions I've no hope of answering in my life. Of course that doesn't stop me from doing so or wasting time in other ways.

Jarnauga
03-25-2016, 10:30 AM
Well same as here, there are plenty of people living in mom's basement that have no idea what's going on outside. Meanwhile the clerics and imams are telling you exactly what they are doing, but you just sit back and parrot the words of the leftists that have everything to gain by a hostile invasion, imo. They are not just going to breed the Europeans out, they are going to blow things up as this thread is all about.

How is it you have apathy regarding the muslim invasion of Europe? Does it just not effect you? It does here, we don't want it. There is proportion and then there is invasion, especially with clerics calling for a take over. That is far from some conspiracy theory, they are screaming it right in the open.

And yeah, I know a lot of things about Europe, like how they poopoo assimilation. So you have islamisists that fit right into a non-assimilation deal, living life separate from everyone else. But here we don't like that, we're Americans first, and only. Europe is headed for extinction.


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BTW, The US State Department issued a travel warning to Europe. And a heightened security status in the US.

Seeing they hit the EU capital, I tend to take this as a deceleration of war, and expect more attacks to unfold in the coming months. Not that the war ever stopped...

So when are you gonna deport the 3.3 millions of american muslims living in the USA ?

3.3 millions breeding like rabbits, that's a big army for Allah. Right..?

I'm waiting for 'murica to show the world the way ! Wtf are you waiting for ..?

sOurDieSel
03-25-2016, 11:00 AM
Please name 1 Muslim that signed the Declaration of Independence or United States Constitution. Ohhhhhhhhh wait......

Don't forget that the Muslim Moors(Berbers) used to own millions of White Christians for slaves, primarily sex slaves.

What obligation does the USA and Europe have to import millions of 3rd worlders including members of the 'Religion of Peace' who like to Aloha Snack'Bar?

Still waiting for my list of 5 benefits of multi-culturalism, won't hold my breathe.

Islam is incompatible with Western (White) Civilization.

Just to trigger you libcucks:

Jarnauga
03-25-2016, 11:31 AM
Islam is incompatible with Western (White) Civilization.

So when are you gonna deport the 3.3 millions of american muslims living in the USA ?

3.3 millions breeding like rabbits, that's a big army for Allah. Right..?

I'm waiting for 'murica to show the world the way ! Wtf are you waiting for ..?

Blitzers
03-25-2016, 01:27 PM
Well, in all sincerity good for you and kudos to your parents for raising a fine son. We're on the same page as far as the nature of poverty. We also seem to agree that subsidies do not remedy the source, they simply abate the symptoms. Stop the subsidy and the poverty returns. It's the reason why even in families that extricate themselves from poverty, you see returns to it in subsequent generations: culture. Indefinite subsidy does not afford society the greatest, or even second greatest benefit though, but you already know that. Reason does not deliver disparate conclusions. Motivation does though.

I live by three simple principles:

1. Work Hard
2. Be Responsible
3. Leave others alone

If everyone else did this, we'd enjoy a fantastically productive global society free of conflict. That is not going to happen though, because everyone else is not me and does not think like me, nor should they in a free world I suppose.

I harbor no contempt for the poor. My objection to subsidies is based in reason and the disappointing conclusion that charity is a detriment to society. I do not recognize such subsidies as investment whether consensual or coerced because it effects proliferation of a failed condition. That is of exceptional concern in a representative democracy given that human procreation suffers wildly from adverse selection thanks to divergent survival strategies accommodated by our social nature: quality vs. quantity. (This is why I align with leftist leaders in support organizations like Planned Parenthood. They directly combat poverty by throttling new inductees.)

The end result is you end up with an ever larger proportion of those who cannot care for themselves, until eventually the burden on the "haves" becomes so great that the society collapses and you are left with a nation if angry dullards, which are inevitably subjugated and abused by he among them who is most ambitious. Whether for within or out, societies always fall to barbarians. History is ride with examples.

Is it cold to say these things? Absolutely. Is it sad that other people endure pain and suffering? Absolutely and I understand and share the desire to help because witnessing pain and suffering is distressing to most people. It is one of the primary reasons people engage I charity. The others of course are guilt (penance for one's transgressions) and appreciation (people are often better able to appreciate and find happiness in their own lives by witnessing the distress in others').

At the end of the day, charity is a disservice both to the needy and to humanity. It prolongs and exacerbates suffering while stifling advancement all so that we can feel good about ourselves.

And no, I'm not Christian. I am agnostic, of the un-hyphenated variety. I have limited time to waste contemplating questions I've no hope of answering in my life. Of course that doesn't stop me from doing so or wasting time in other ways.

And you fockers think I'm cold hearted, this ***** won't even drop a dime in the Salvation Army bucket. Damn melon you be Riding Gangsta on those poor folx.

maskedmelon
03-25-2016, 01:42 PM
Yes, I am deplorable.

Jarnauga
03-25-2016, 02:18 PM
No answers.

2 possibilities then :

- either you are a bunch of trolls seeking attention like the dumbest 15 years old twitch whore

- or you're a bunch of pussies (should i say "cucks" ? :D ) too afraid to take action or even speak their minds while you jerk off dreaming you're Anders Breivik.

Either way, scum.

Done with that thread. *drops mic*

Daywolf
03-25-2016, 03:24 PM
So when are you gonna deport the 3.3 millions of american muslims living in the USA ?

3.3 millions breeding like rabbits, that's a big army for Allah. Right..?

I'm waiting for 'murica to show the world the way ! Wtf are you waiting for ..?
See you're still phishing. If you bothered to read my posts as they are written you would note I said 'there is proportion and then there is invasion'. And in this case, invasion is quite literal.

So I gave a first step, that would be just telling the truth. I think the second step would be dissolving the UN.

Part of the reason all the countries are receiving so many muslims is that the UN is pushing them on everyone. There are plenty of non-muslims being passed over by the UN, those that are not only being exterminated by the regimes but by the muslims as well. But the UN is handling this, there is no choice other than to refuse their hand picked refugees, most of which are muslims. As long as the UN does that, just say no. If anyone is worthy of being thrown out of the country first it's certainty the UN.

I already told you the situation Europe is in, you don't believe me, but you will see the fruition in the next 5-7 years, but you will see the strife build until then. What is Europe to do? What has Europe always done? They won't deport anyone, meanwhile the past three days the white power groups have doubled in memberships (is the news), and likely will grow even more. That's not a solution, that's just a result, and that too will bite into Europe helping the next dictator to rise again.

The US, at this point all we need to do is filter our borders. We have more issues with the leftists that are and will try to take advantage of them. All they are concerned with are building a potential voting block, while they keep them marginalized and pointing fingers at everyone else while they themselves do the real harm. We are more concerned with deporting people that are here illegally, which is a far larger group than 3mil.

Daywolf
03-25-2016, 03:54 PM
No answers.

2 possibilities then :

- either you are a bunch of trolls seeking attention like the dumbest 15 years old twitch whore

- or you're a bunch of pussies (should i say "cucks" ? :D ) too afraid to take action or even speak their minds while you jerk off dreaming you're Anders Breivik.

Either way, scum.

Done with that thread. *drops mic*
Now getting to this...
wtf?! why dont you go find yourself another game forum that moves at the speed of light, like the WoW forum. Surely there are enough random people there to keep you entertained as they hit your little talking point traps you set up. You have it all figured out, why you demanding everyone else's opinion, and w/o respect enough to wait for a reply to it? If anyone is acting like a 15yo here, it's you, quite literally.

Lune
03-25-2016, 04:00 PM
So when are you gonna deport the 3.3 millions of american muslims living in the USA ?

3.3 millions breeding like rabbits, that's a big army for Allah. Right..?

I'm waiting for 'murica to show the world the way ! Wtf are you waiting for ..?

Who says we have to deport them? That's impossible, unconstitutional, and inhumane. Many are assimilated US citizens. 3.3 million out of 300 million is also a lot more manageable proportion than what you have going in Europe.

Also this is laughable:


In the United States, for example, the population projections show the number of Muslims more than doubling over the next two decades, rising from 2.6 million in 2010 to 6.2 million in 2030, in large part because of immigration and higher-than-average fertility among Muslims. The Muslim share of the U.S. population (adults and children) is projected to grow from 0.8% in 2010 to 1.7% in 2030, making Muslims roughly as numerous as Jews or Episcopalians are in the United States today. Although several European countries will have substantially higher percentages of Muslims, the United States is projected to have a larger number of Muslims by 2030 than any European countries other than Russia and France.

A country of over 320 million will have more Muslims than tiny European countries? Yet still less than France, which has less than 1/5 the USA's total population? What about when you put all the European countries together? What point did you think you were making with this Pew study? That a minuscule fraction of US citizens are Muslim but Muslims are a huge minority in Europe? Because that's the way it is. According to that same source, the European Union already has 44 million Muslims excluding Turkey. About 7x more than the US is projected to have in 2030.

Daywolf
03-25-2016, 04:52 PM
Who says we have to deport them? That's impossible, unconstitutional, and inhumane. No it's not impossible, but we haven't reached that point yet. Not speaking of those that have been here and have become citizens, oh hell no. But those on the path of citizenship, and are committing crimes and such, oh heck yeah, put them on a boat back out. Same with illegals, and even more so, which I know this "impossible" satire comes from.

It's certainly not impossible, in fact it's fiscal as well as humane for those that are here legally or are kindly waiting in line to enter legally with good merit and intent. Inhumane is swinging the borders open and letting anyone in. But the debate on illegals and muslim refugees are two different topics. Just pointing out a word often used in regards to another matter.

But I agree with your other point, Lune, we've done nothing as Europe has done. We've been heavily criticized by Europe for the smaller amount of "refugees" we have taken in. Europe has gotten themselves into yet another mess, and it can only be Europe that fixes that mess whatever way they can I guess.

You see, our friend here is trying to get us Americans to tell the Europeans how to run their country, which is naive as Europe does what Europe does which is the whole reason why the US exists, or came about. Do what they will, most Americans still don't want America to become more like Europe. And even more so now as Europe has gotten itself into hot water from the multiculturalism they have chosen to pursue, especially to the fact that islamisists are waging a cultural war on the West.

I saw a black muslim yesterday at the supermarket, all dressed up in his robes. I was thinking, why am I not in a kilt?? I mean it would certainly be easier to hang true BA's at people :/ Oh yeah, I'm American and act like an American. Screw multiculturalism, except on Halloween.

iruinedyourday
03-25-2016, 05:02 PM
why do conservatives insist that charity is a detriment to society when in absolutely 100% of instances where a society takes after the poor instead of shuns them benefits and a society that shuns the poor suffers?

This is absolute, there are no discrepancies... whether you teach a man to fish or give him some of your fish makes no difference in the # of people who actually go out and fish... but there is a difference in the # of people that will steel your fish, if you don't share with them.

Absolute and not a matter of opinion. So why, if your country is struggling with the highest percentage of violence and crime compared to ALL developed nations on earth (who happen to share with the poor) would you insist that not sharing is better for society?

it's not.

Daywolf
03-25-2016, 05:22 PM
why do conservatives insist that charity is a detriment to society when in absolutely 100% of instances where a society takes after the poor instead of shuns them benefits and a society that shuns the poor suffers?ooooh that's a load of BS as a load of BS can be. The problem is in your definition of "charity".

Conservative/moderate/anyone other than libs: Charity is giving your own money and sometimes even time to a charitable fund/organization that actually helps the poor, sick and hurting souls. And simple google search will show that conservatives actually do this much more than these big hearted libs.

Libtard: Charity is passing legislation, raising taxes and fleecing the rich, the destroyed middle-class, and the poor, taking that money and distributing to people that might vote for us and even bigger gobernment. What's yours in mine and what's mine is mine, you didn't build that business.

Charity is not redistribution of other peoples money.

iruinedyourday
03-25-2016, 05:30 PM
you are such a fucking gimp dude.

Pokesan
03-25-2016, 05:31 PM
I believe poor people would be better served by a kick in the face instead of a sandwich.

I'm stating this calmly and articulately, that means I'm not an irrelevant sociopath.

Pokesan
03-25-2016, 05:33 PM
You know, if we don't start kicking poor people in the face, they'll become dependent on not being kicked in the face and vote Democrat. This is a bad thing.

Fame
03-25-2016, 05:34 PM
Was this a false flag? I no longer watch the news

iruinedyourday
03-25-2016, 05:35 PM
Give me one example where not taking care of the poor has resulted in *success? One example.

*Success is that society still operating in that manner, years later.

Daywolf
03-25-2016, 05:43 PM
Was this a false flag? I no longer watch the news
Some are saying, but doesnt seem to be gaining broad support. Main issue is how this could happen while there is sooo much surveillance? imo the arguement has metrit, at least for a matter of investigation.

derpcake
03-29-2016, 12:46 PM
http://i.imgur.com/W6THPzX.gif

at first i thought this involved a p1999 player

i still do

maskedmelon
03-29-2016, 01:06 PM
http://i.imgur.com/W6THPzX.gif

at first i thought this involved a p1999 player

i still do

Belgians are so violent.

derpcake
03-29-2016, 01:12 PM
based on efficiency i'm guessing he is British or German

Blitzers
03-29-2016, 01:27 PM
Give me one example where not taking care of the poor has resulted in *success? One example.

*Success is that society still operating in that manner, years later.

Being coerced by government to take care of the poor and charity are 2 different things.
The former is done thru hostile means and results in natural resentment toward the poor.
The latter is an act of kindness and love, which is contagious in society and leads to more acts of kindness and love, it also unifies communities instead of creating an atmospher of contempt.

I do understand your logic IRYD, although well intended man's nature opposes your ideology and by enacting forced compliance man's nature rebels. This is why we still have such a divided country in America based on Race. Whites are sick and tired of handing over money to <insert demographic here> and then hearing how horrible the white man is after you take his money.

^^^ that pretty much explains the Trump anger support.

derpcake
03-29-2016, 02:12 PM
Being coerced by government to take care of the poor and charity are 2 different things.
The former is done thru hostile means and results in natural resentment toward the poor.
The latter is an act of kindness and love, which is contagious in society and leads to more acts of kindness and love, it also unifies communities instead of creating an atmospher of contempt.

I do understand your logic IRYD, although well intended man's nature opposes your ideology and by enacting forced compliance man's nature rebels. This is why we still have such a divided country in America based on Race. Whites are sick and tired of handing over money to <insert demographic here> and then hearing how horrible the white man is after you take his money.

^^^ that pretty much explains the Trump anger support.

thats all swell and all

lets say you stop giving unemployment and all that, what do you think poor people will do

A) attempt to negotiate better terms
B) succesfully starve
C) attempt to rob some rich dude

I'm wondering man, is it A?

Lune
03-29-2016, 02:29 PM
Blitzers obviously just mad that social support is going to the wrong race. Like most conservatives, deep down their problem isn't so much about civic responsibility, creating opportunity, or fighting poverty, it's about race relations. Doesn't have anything of substance to say about fighting poverty, just inarticulate anger about "Muh money being wasted on those damn (insert color here)'s". Meanwhile our society and institutions crumble, bridges fall, water turns to poison, monopolies form, because people like him make up a significant portion of the voting bloc and were successfully convinced that the social contract is about extracting as much value from the system as possible while giving back as little as possible.

It's like criticizing the concept of public education because sometimes you end up wasting resources on a dumb student.

iruinedyourday
03-29-2016, 02:53 PM
Blitzers obviously just mad that social support is going to the wrong race. Like most conservatives, deep down their problem isn't so much about civic responsibility, creating opportunity, or fighting poverty, it's about race relations. Doesn't have anything of substance to say about fighting poverty, just inarticulate anger about "Muh money being wasted on those damn (insert color here)'s". Meanwhile our society and institutions crumble, bridges fall, water turns to poison, monopolies form, because people like him make up a significant portion of the voting bloc and were successfully convinced that the social contract is about extracting as much value from the system as possible while giving back as little as possible.

It's like criticizing the concept of public education because sometimes you end up wasting resources on a dumb student.

Nirgon
03-30-2016, 09:43 AM
https://youtu.be/yeJ-iv3MOTo