Bob 8 boxes while selling plat to minors and putting babies on spikes

[citizen1080]

Everyone screams and cries for Kunark to come out for the last 6 months...


When the Devs announce Beta and that they need help testing it so they can get it out to you, no one gives a shit.


12/10/10 11:11pst

4 people on the Beta server


If I was the Dev's I would be pretty disappointed in the server population.

Why should they bust their balls to get Kunark out to the server when the server won't help them when they ask for it.

I realize running around putting time into something that is going to be wiped making all your progress a moot point isn't a ton of fun...but I don't imagine sitting in front of a computer coding and pouring over logs looking for errors and bugs is much fun either.



Just my 2cp


(And before you flame me for not being there myself...I logged on..and tried selling stuff to myself for awhile but it just wasn't the same.)

[xshayla701]

/agree

[xshayla701]

PS
<-- Level 7 Iksar SK, Cyberme
obv

[Daldaen]

I tried to box and powerlevel an iksar, but it wouldn't let me. Perhaps because I'm retarded though. I wouldn't put that past me!

[Ledzepp02]

Aside from being a bit too busy irl to even be raiding much on 99...

I started out on live during the luclin era, so my past experience with kunark will only be altered from what originally occurred. So I kind of figure I can't contribute much to the collective nostalgic record. =/

[citizen1080]

Need a forum mod to change the name of my thread to "Bob 8 boxes while selling plat to minors and putting babies on spikes" so we can get some thread hits!

[Ames]

It might also be that its 3am right now on the east coast, Wouldn't expect too many people to be on that late =P

[citizen1080]

All the cool kids play on the west coast with me sir

[Benebric]

Some of us east coasters are desperately hoping that staying up till 3am and waiting just *one* more spawn cycle will get that god damned goblin alchemist to drop his cloak!

[citizen1080]

Good luck sir !

[Icecometus]

I have been testing things that interest me. It's in everyones best interest to make sure the things you care about in kunark are gonna work right.

[Itchybottom]

Nilbog I believe is the one that said they could do it (complete the project) without players to test things. Not everyone reports bugs on the current server either, they abuse the crap out of things until it gets fixed. It's the way of gaming in this day and age.

[Sizzle]

they abuse the crap out of things until it gets fixed. It's the way of gaming in this day and age.

damn exploiters don't know anyone here thats done that yet!

[Sizzle]

damn exploiters don't know anyone here thats done that yet!

pardon, i mean in p99 as a whole not this forum =D

[Rhalous]

I'm going to have to agree with my pal Bob on this one. Get to the Beta server so we can get Kunark released asap, IMO. The faster we work through the zones that are in right now, the faster we can get more zones released. I've seen enough threads with people asking for the release info on Kunark. Get off your asses and help get it done. :cool:

[Rhalous]

Also, there has been a lot of bitching in the past about people exploiting bugs, etc. It's not a very hard concept. If you help test the beta, things will get fixed before they go live and there will be less of a chance for game breaking bugs in the future. The changes that are happening with melee right now are a perfect example of where I'm going with this.

[Taluvill]

Nilbog I believe is the one that said they could do it (complete the project) without players to test things. Not everyone reports bugs on the current server either, they abuse the crap out of things until it gets fixed. It's the way of gaming in this day and age.

Not everything needs to be reported either. Mobs pathing under the castle in KC is a known issue, but i dont recall there being a post about it.

[nickyboy1981]

i played in fv for a bit, died and lost my corpse, was searching for somewhere to buy chipped bone rods, zoned into gfay, went ld and cant log back on, dunno if gfay is down or what

[William_Munny15]

All the cool kids play on the west coast with me sir

^
westside!

[mitic]

they abuse the crap out of things until it gets fixed. It's the way of gaming in this day and age.

its more like the way of humankind than videogaming.

[Cyrius]

Need a forum mod to change the name of my thread to "Bob 8 boxes while selling plat to minors and putting babies on spikes" so we can get some thread hits!

Done. :cool:

[Cyrius]

Not everything needs to be reported either. Mobs pathing under the castle in KC is a known issue, but i dont recall there being a post about it.

i beg to differ => http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=22747
and here => http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=22706

[Omnimorph]

Unfortunately the majority are more likely if they find a bug, to ignore it and hope it still works when they release kunark :p

I'd be playing there if my comp wasn't broken :/

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

I think the problems lies with the poopsocks. They would rather bitch about not having Kunark than actually take time from camping raids to test it. They are the ones that are high enough levels to try out most of the content. I say, keep delaying it until it is tested properly. And if that takes another year, so be it.

[Rahnza]

unban Tiki and I'll beta test the hell out of Kunark.

In the meantime, leveling other toons on the real server.

[TJHooker]

Bob, you ignorant Slut. I actually submitted some bugs, but then I realized that you were boxing for real money and decided not to help you leach money.

[xshayla701]

Done. :cool:

Hahahaha

[Lazortag]

Keep in mind, in a very meaningful sense what happens on the test server isn't exactly temporary. If you go on the test server and figure out a really efficient way to AoE kite in a certain zone, that will save you a bit of time during the real thing. You also have more of an ability to take crazy risks than you would on the regular server. That being said, there are aspects of the server that are actually really fun in a way that the regular server can't be (like all the GM involvement, 80 man multi-guild zerg raids, etc.) For all you people at level 50 with nothing to do, stop farming seafuries and come play on the test server.

[Naynay]

Wait wait wait....I dont see Bob poopsocking ec tunnel in kunark beta either.....damn hipo...lol

[nalkin]

I was going to play on there, but geegoo trained me and killed me, and left me bound in oot. Pretty sure my corpse has rotted now... thanks!

[Cyrius]

That is no excuse Nalkin. You are in Field of Bones and your body is at your feet.

[PureLo]

I just remember seeing a post by Nilbog saying how much he doesn't need the community to play in some sort of rant, it was on a very public thread. Maybe that had something to do with it? No idea though, I am all for Kunark the beta is what made me try to find a few extra minutes/hours to jump back on. Just it isn't all that great on there cause of the few people and lack of memorable zones at the moment :(

[Hobby]

Not everything needs to be reported either. Mobs pathing under the castle in KC is a known issue, but i dont recall there being a post about it.


There are posts...first day of release people made it known.

[Hobby]

woops cyrius beat me to it

[nalkin]

That is no excuse Nalkin. You are in Field of Bones and your body is at your feet.

I was gonna play on the regular server too, but I didn't have a manastone...

[President]

Sorry, but if the GM's want us to help testing some of the content, they are going to have to start granting some levels to people. I barely have enough time to play with my own guild, let alone work my way through 50-60 hell levels just for testing.


Divinity has already tried for Gore to test and will probably try other stuff when they come out, but its not realistic to expect us to level our way to 60. Some bumps to 55+ so we can test out some of the harder zones would be nice.

[YendorLootmonkey]

I was gonna play on the regular server too, but I didn't have a manastone...

Hahahaha

Divinity has already tried for Gore to test and will probably try other stuff when they come out, but its not realistic to expect us to level our way to 60. Some bumps to 55+ so we can test out some of the harder zones would be nice.

/agree... wasn't 51-60 touted by Verant/SoE when Kunark came out that leveling from 51-60 supposed to take as long as leveling from 1-50? Sort of an unrealistic expectation.

[Cyrius]

I just remember seeing a post by Nilbog saying how much he doesn't need the community to play in some sort of rant, it was on a very public thread. Maybe that had something to do with it? No idea though, I am all for Kunark the beta is what made me try to find a few extra minutes/hours to jump back on. Just it isn't all that great on there cause of the few people and lack of memorable zones at the moment :(

Wich is correct, it does not matter to us if kunark is finished now or in a year. It matters to YOU. So you can help your self and speed things up by reporting bugs, or not.

[Cyrius]

Sorry, but if the GM's want us to help testing some of the content, they are going to have to start granting some levels to people. I barely have enough time to play with my own guild, let alone work my way through 50-60 hell levels just for testing.


Divinity has already tried for Gore to test and will probably try other stuff when they come out, but its not realistic to expect us to level our way to 60. Some bumps to 55+ so we can test out some of the harder zones would be nice.

High end content is not in beta yet. It is general things like melee damage below 50, melee damage above 50, pathing issues in the released low to mid level zones, iksars etc.. There is plenty testing you can do without beeing 51+.

[Zagtor]

Sorry, but if the GM's want us to help testing some of the content, they are going to have to start granting some levels to people.

Of the content available, only Gorenaire, The Tangrin, and spells require a level beyond 50. That only leaves ohhh.... 99.9% of the content available that you could test as a level 50.

:rolleyes:

[PureLo]

Not to me personally, cause i am a patient person lol... i can wait. Just saying in the context of how this has been put about needing OUR help is why i mentioned the rant of it being said we aren't needed.

[President]

High end content is not in beta yet. It is general things like melee damage below 50, melee damage above 50, pathing issues in the released low to mid level zones, iksars etc.. There is plenty testing you can do without beeing 51+.

I'm aware and understand. I'm mostly just making a suggestion for further testing. There are lots of guilds here that I am sure would be happy to help and I'd think it would be advantageous to exploit that. IE: Hey Div/IB/DA/TMO/PP/etc. wed like you to assist us testing this zone on this day, well be around to put you to the appropriate level.

[Cyrius]

I am sure that's what will happen once the time has come =).

[mimixownzall]

The melee dmg at low level was a problem with me. taking 3 minutes to kill a level one mob cause im hitting it for 1 dmg and it's regening faster than i can dmg it.

I think everyone is waiting for the higher level zones to come into play. Right now, it's mainly the starting zone stuff with very limited post 50 content. I imagine once KC and Sebilis opens up a lot more people will show.

[Cyrius]

So you want to hit for 1 in Sebilis instead? I am sure that can be arranged.

[Hobby]

We arent planning on making you guys grind out to 60 twice....


when higher end content comes into beta, there will be methods in place to make sure it is testable.

we know what we are doing, don't assume otherwise ;)

[citizen1080]

We arent planning on making you guys grind out to 60 twice....


when higher end content comes into beta, there will be methods in place to make sure it is testable.

we know what we are doing, don't assume otherwise ;)



Ooo....Bob could be lvl 1-60 without ever leaving the tunnel !

[nilbog]

Nilbog I believe is the one that said they could do it (complete the project) without players to test things. Not everyone reports bugs on the current server either, they abuse the crap out of things until it gets fixed. It's the way of gaming in this day and age.

Actually, what I said was :

We could shut the server down, and develop it in private at no cost. I did that for a year and a half before any of you dissidents disgraced my lands. You realize that we get the same rewards of developing this without being criticized. We could finish it up, and open it when Velious is complete. And I meant it. Especially to the dissidents, as it was addressed. Some people construed that as me addressing each and every player.

In the very same thread, I also said this:

Oh, I have no problem allowing all the normal people to play here. And I meant that too. I banned the people flaming and threatening us, and things continued on as normal.

I just remember seeing a post by Nilbog saying how much he doesn't need the community to play in some sort of rant, it was on a very public thread. Maybe that had something to do with it?

See above. if dissident { fuck directly off. } People were flaming the developers in a PATCH NOTES thread.

If people want to beta test, they will beta test. Misquotes from me should have nothing to do with that. Those who were around for the prekunark beta know my feelings on this subject.

[President]

Thanks for the work nilbog - wish you would respond to my PM's tho! =/

[Pikle]

I've seen 40+ people on the beta server a few times. The lowest amount I've seen is 14 and that was in the dead of morning 3-4 AM EST. I'm thinking that's pretty good considering you are getting 5% or so of your normal population helping out. Of course Some of these are boxers I would imagine. It still has a while to go and it hasn't been out that long. I'm sure when word spreads a little more too some of the old school people who are waiting for kunark will head there.

[Taluvill]

There are posts...first day of release people made it known.

Just quoting you instead of both of you, Sorry. I didnt look through all of the Kunark stuff, just certain things that interested me on the subject.

I plan to play there when tracking for bosses, no worries.

[Taluvill]

Cant edit here.

This is a great thing to do in your downtime. Campin frenzy? alt tab to the Kunark box for a bit. Camping AC? alt tab over. It isnt super hard and would probably really help the server out.

[mimixownzall]

So you want to hit for 1 in Sebilis instead? I am sure that can be arranged.


Uh... I guess I have to explain.

When the melee calculations are patched to retest, I will rejoin with my level 1 to continue testing.

Looking over the melee dmg thread it is well reported and I have given my input from what I remember. Several people who are more in the know of what is going on are providing much more/better input than I. Nothing more can be done in that respect.

You might consider giving a little more thought as to what someone is posting. Anyone spending any amount of time in the beta forums would know that the level 1 melee dmg is an issue that is being handled with great diligence. That same person could deduce that my input was simply an explanation as to why I, or possibly others, are not on right now.

I know that dealing with some of the personalities on these forums can cause one to immediately react to every post with hostility, but please take time to ensure that you aren't taking a "shoot-from-the-hip" snipe at posters who do not suffer from said attitude problems.

[Scrooge]

They should really open up a few more higher level zones to test, there's only so much you can do in Dreadlands..

[Deezie]

And before you flame me for not being there myself...I logged on..and tried selling stuff to myself for awhile but it just wasn't the same.

Try making an iksar and being useful?

[Exxon]

Well I haven't even touched the live server, been waiting for Kunark and now that the beta is up it is the only place I've been.

P.S. Any ETA for beta server update? My CoS is still 5 second cast :(

[Ames]

All the cool kids play on the west coast with me sir

Damn...I guess us east coaster's can only hope and dream...

[OngorDrakan]

I think people should grow a pair and start playing on there and testing things. Otherwise NONE of you should bitch if you come across issues when you're an Iksar noob or when your big bad raiding dungeons are fucked. You characters are there. Go raid with them!! I've got a box pair of a War/Shm iksar.

[Pringles]

Ya i logged in and it was dead - I thought about two boxing it up, but meh.

[Ralexia]

Advertising the beta better might help. Adding a note to the message of the day would alert people that the beta is out. If you don't check the homepage or hear about it from friends you might never know.

[Cruise]

Advertising the beta better might help. Adding a note to the message of the day would alert people that the beta is out. If you don't check the homepage or hear about it from friends you might never know.

This, and we should setup some sort of mass leveling project on beta. I imagine if we chose a night and told everyone to make a level 1 Iksar, it would be a ton of fun and would probably reveal a fair number of bugs in the process.

Not a fan of leveling solo on a beta server, and I don't have a high level character to test with.

[Cyrius]

Uh... I guess I have to explain.

When the melee calculations are patched to retest, I will rejoin with my level 1 to continue testing.

Looking over the melee dmg thread it is well reported and I have given my input from what I remember. Several people who are more in the know of what is going on are providing much more/better input than I. Nothing more can be done in that respect.

You might consider giving a little more thought as to what someone is posting. Anyone spending any amount of time in the beta forums would know that the level 1 melee dmg is an issue that is being handled with great diligence. That same person could deduce that my input was simply an explanation as to why I, or possibly others, are not on right now.

I know that dealing with some of the personalities on these forums can cause one to immediately react to every post with hostility, but please take time to ensure that you aren't taking a "shoot-from-the-hip" snipe at posters who do not suffer from said attitude problems.

Oh it was not ment hostile. Should have added ;)