DAOC: Uthgard BETA IS COMING!

[backman_66]

Hear ye, hear ye! After a LONG and grueling wait, the Dark Age of Camelot Uthgard emulated server's open beta is finally approaching, starting on Saturday May 07, 2016, at 09:00:00 GMT.

Previously, Scrooge had made threads trying to organize people who were interested in playing with us on the server. As some of you know, DAoC had some of the best realm-based PvP in MMO history. Uthgard is a classic server, much like Project 1999, reliving the glory days of a game that was so dear to our hearts. Now is FINALLY the chance to play classic DAoC on the Uthgard server and experience it from a fresh start. This will probably NEVER happen again because no other server will come close to being as polished as Uthgard with such a high population.

If you're new to DAoC or an old veteran, I encourage you to give this a chance. This is your opportunity to experience something amazing that will most likely never happen again, a much anticipated re-launch of an amazing classic DAoC server from a fresh start.

If I can get a hold of Scrooge, we will see about doing some organizing for this. We will want to start a guild, no doubt, and play on Hibernia. Here is a link to the old thread where Scrooge had organized a ton of interest and the classes that people were interested in playing.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=141021

For those of you who are interested in playing this time around (FOR REALS THIS TIME OMG!) please post here. I'll do what I can to do some organization, but I'm very busy and I'll be leaving the country on a vacation right as the beta is starting, and I'll be gone for 6 weeks through the beta. But I should be back in plenty of time before the server officially launches, I think.

Visit Uthgard's website and scroll to the bottom and click "Continue" to visit the front page of the website and access the forums from there if you want to do some reading and checking on news.

http://uthgard.org/

[Goliathan]

Drop me the deets. I am super interested it. I never got to play this beyond a few days.

[Beastagoog]

thanks for this! will be there!

[Daywolf]

Hmmm well tempting. But where is the server going to be located for this?

[backman_66]

It's located in Germany. Due to this, there will inevitably be higher latency for us in the U.S., but it was still playable and fine most of the time for me before it went down for reconstruction. Here's a quote from Trishin, one of the devs:

"We hope that uthgard 2.0 will bring a lot of US players. Hopefully all US based players will help spread the word, and while Uthgard is hosted in Germany (which we understand can cause some concerns for US players), we want to make it a good experience for everyone. During the beta it would be very helpful to have US players report on issues such as the server connection and lag issues, so we can try and work out any issues there might be before we launch."

[Rick Sanchez]

Man this is going to be awesome.

[xKoopa]

Will play this for sure

[Swish]

It's located in Germany. Due to this, there will inevitably be higher latency for us in the U.S., but it was still playable and fine most of the time for me before it went down for reconstruction. Here's a quote from Trishin, one of the devs:

"We hope that uthgard 2.0 will bring a lot of US players. Hopefully all US based players will help spread the word, and while Uthgard is hosted in Germany (which we understand can cause some concerns for US players), we want to make it a good experience for everyone. During the beta it would be very helpful to have US players report on issues such as the server connection and lag issues, so we can try and work out any issues there might be before we launch."

fwiw I play P99 with a 100ish ping, it's not the end of the world being on a different continent.

[Skew]

Will boxing be banned a la p99 ?

Put me down as a ranger if you're going Hibernia. Was Infiltrator on Percival originally.

[Xaanka]

if there's no boxing im in

[backman_66]

There will not be boxing, so you're good! Skew - ranger, got it. I like rangers.

[Daywolf]

fwiw I play P99 with a 100ish ping, it's not the end of the world being on a different continent.
Oh I get over 110ms ping just from the west coast to the east coast. Western europe is over 200, eastern europe around 300 with some ~500 spikes. Local around 16ms. Usually aint worth it, not if pvping anyway.

[Spyder73]

My original DAoC character was a Ranger - was really fun for RvR sniping people - But I remember leveling a Warden because Ranger was borderline useless in PVE and large scale PVP.

I think I will go Skald this time if I decide to play... <3 DAoC

[FoxxHound]

Will play this for sure

[magician]

can't wait to rip y'all nerds on my home turf

[FoxxHound]

Also. I normally do Mid (<3 Mid) or Alb. This time I am going Hibernia.

[Skew]

There will not be boxing, so you're good! Skew - ranger, got it. I like rangers.

Superb. Buff-botting did cause some imbalances on live. Still , a great game. I look forward to trying this.

[backman_66]

Oh I get over 110ms ping just from the west coast to the east coast. Western europe is over 200, eastern europe around 300 with some ~500 spikes. Local around 16ms. Usually aint worth it, not if pvping anyway.

Yeah west coast will probably have some issues, but it's worth a shot at least. I'm in Arkansas and I think my latency (before the revamp of the server) was around 150-200 I think, but it wasn't hardly even noticeable 90% of the time (at least to me!)

[backman_66]

I prefer Hib because Middies always seem to have this attitude, but I guess it kinda comes with the territory, right? Mids are bullies :P

And Alb's classes/races are pretty dull to me.

[Evia]

I had a 49 bard back in the day on merlin. I'd be down to roll dance again. I might do ranger this time around.

[Evia]

Oops accident post

[Fifield]

omg i loved this game as a kid, played on the vikings or whatever they were called side.

Pls post more info about this as you know more. would love to play

[backman_66]

omg i loved this game as a kid, played on the vikings or whatever they were called side.

Pls post more info about this as you know more. would love to play

Check out that first post I made with the link from the previous thread. Scrooge had posted some information in there about class descriptions and stuff. Otherwise, just browse around on Uthgard.net.

[surron]

troll thane master pvp

[Daywolf]

Yeah west coast will probably have some issues, but it's worth a shot at least. I'm in Arkansas and I think my latency (before the revamp of the server) was around 150-200 I think, but it wasn't hardly even noticeable 90% of the time (at least to me!)

Always depends on the game. Such as for EVE, server located in London, 200ms to server on avg. However with tidi (time dilation) large battles are doable as everyone is being slowed down. For small gang and solo, cov-ops is ideal, say with a stealth bomber, as you pick your fights and aren't suddenly surprised by the lag of an incoming player who already got a lock on you before the latency caught up. That along with combat probes and directional scanning to give an idea of whats going on in the system.

But I figured the server was located someplace like that, more and more emu servers are moving or being set up in Europe for reasons I wont mention here.

[Spyder73]

So this server is DAoC classic? No expansions?

[mrgoochio]

^

Also, is there a wipe between "beta" and "launch" for uthgay?

[Zar211]

Originally played DAOC on Percival few months after release, never got the chance to play on the Uthgard1.0 but met a lot of cool people on Genesis that were from there. Havent logged on Genesis for months now but have 20 or so 50's across all three realms.


Talut the Necromancer

Ikorh the Shaman

[Tewaz]

I love Hib, was my original back during classic DAOC. I played a ranger or whatever the ranged class was. I really want to do an enchanter or something else this go round. Put me down for melee dps or enchanter.

[backman_66]

This is mostly classic DAoC. It is patch level 1.65, with the old RA system in place. SI (Shrouded Isles, similar to our Kunark) will be the only expansion enabled, but it's not 100% ready yet so it will be delayed after launch.

There will be a wipe after beta. It's going to be a completely fresh start for everyone, and like I said, is going to be a very special time to be a part of.

Tewaz, happy to have you in Hib my friend :)

[Pokesan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcOz9nVQf9o

[Nirgon]

always turns into a private 8v8 club due to the following

-- not going out without a full group with perfect comp
-- spamming angry capital letters at "adding on fights"
-- hard snubbing
-- some people being truly bad at DAoC to the point that it validates the above

if there was *any* hope this would be a fun mass RvR server I'd care but its going to be a vicious grind up with PvDoor and basically arranged 8v8s with a ton of people sitting around LFG

Hope I'm wrong tho, and not that that I'd play but it would be great for the people who do. At least all the classes are supposed to work this time(??)

[backman_66]

always turns into a private 8v8 club due to the following

-- not going out without a full group with perfect comp
-- spamming angry capital letters at "adding on fights"
-- hard snubbing
-- some people being truly bad at DAoC to the point that it validates the above

if there was *any* hope this would be a fun mass RvR server I'd care but its going to be a vicious grind up with PvDoor and basically arranged 8v8s with a ton of people sitting around LFG

Hope I'm wrong tho, and not that that I'd play but it would be great for the people who do. At least all the classes are supposed to work this time(??)

No offense, but it's attitudes like yours that makes it a worse place to play. Don't be so pessimistic. You make it sound like a school yard with a bunch of bullies. There are tons of fun, open-minded people out there to play with, you just have to find them.

[Nirgon]

it happens on every single one of these boxes

my post is optimistic, yet realistic

like I said, I hope I'm wrong

[Tewaz]

Don't listen to people that call servers boxes.

#1 rule of having fun in 17 year old Elf game.

[backman_66]

Realistically, I'll agree that I've seen those things you mentioned. There were times when I couldn't find a group because certain groups were only seeking certain classes to fill the last spots, or they only ran with their own guildies. But that's their choice, it happens in any game that you play.

I've also been invited to plenty of PUGs, and even some guild groups that couldn't fill up with their own members. And once this server opens back up, I'll be running my own guild, or at least help to manage a good, active one. I think this time around, with the fresh start, a lot of the elitism / shunning of other players will be diminished.... at least until the server gets older and people start hitting higher realm ranks.

[Spyder73]

My last memories of DAoC were that the Midgards were the Alpha with stunlock/PBAOE - will be the same here?

[backman_66]

I've heard talk that Middies may be considered the underdog at this patch level with old RA's. I'm not intellectual enough to be able to say personally, though.

[iruinedyourday]

it happens on every single one of these boxes

my post is optimistic, yet realistic

like I said, I hope I'm wrong

can confirm that this guy isnt called the doctor because he doesn't know how to predict things with 100% accuracy. He's like a classic MMO Emu Bernie Sanders.. Gets shit right every time.

though he'd never agree with that analogy cus he balances his brilliant emu predictions with terrible poltical ones hehe

[FoxxHound]

always turns into a private 8v8 club due to the following

-- not going out without a full group with perfect comp
-- spamming angry capital letters at "adding on fights"
-- hard snubbing
-- some people being truly bad at DAoC to the point that it validates the above

if there was *any* hope this would be a fun mass RvR server I'd care but its going to be a vicious grind up with PvDoor and basically arranged 8v8s with a ton of people sitting around LFG

Hope I'm wrong tho, and not that that I'd play but it would be great for the people who do. At least all the classes are supposed to work this time(??)

^^ Yeah that does happen occasionally. I have seen it mostly on Alb. In any game though; you're going to have elitists.

[magician]

always turns into a private 8v8 club due to the following

-- not going out without a full group with perfect comp
-- spamming angry capital letters at "adding on fights"
-- hard snubbing
-- some people being truly bad at DAoC to the point that it validates the above

if there was *any* hope this would be a fun mass RvR server I'd care but its going to be a vicious grind up with PvDoor and basically arranged 8v8s with a ton of people sitting around LFG

Hope I'm wrong tho, and not that that I'd play but it would be great for the people who do. At least all the classes are supposed to work this time(??)



lol
what a blue scum. you a zerging shitlord??

[Cecily]

Is there a rogue equivalent that isn't completely hated for PvE and is still good at killing people? No experience with this game at all, and I hear assassin types are very bad first characters. I also hear that on EQ though and never regretted playing what I wanted to play, rogue, from day 1.

[FoxxHound]

Is there a rogue equivalent that isn't completely hated for PvE and is still good at killing people? No experience with this game at all, and I hear assassin types are very bad first characters. I also hear that on EQ though and never regretted playing what I wanted to play, rogue, from day 1.

All assassins are disliked in PvE. This game however doesn't center around PvE. Though IMO assassins are the hardest class to play in general. Leveling can be difficult, and RvR/PvP can be outrageously difficult (if solo) until you get the hang of it. Liiike gear, weapons swapping/poisons, when to use what styles, positioning, endurance management, picking when to fight & who to fight.

[backman_66]

Pretty much what Foxx said.

Rogues (Stealthers) aren't wanted in PvE very much, and in PvP / RvR, you won't be invited to groups. Stealthers are all about the 1v1 fights where you have to know a lot of the "tricks of the trade" in order to do well because there's some incredibly skilled stealth players who have a lot of experience. It's not my cup of tea, but some people really enjoy it.

Having said that, playing a stealther in battlegrounds (pre- level 50 RvR areas) is incredibly fun. The rogues get a backstab ability, but also a frontal "BS" called Perforate Artery, which is even stronger than a backstab, and can nearly, or completely 1 shot a weak caster enemy. It's very fulfilling. It can only be activated while stealthed though, so it can be hard to pull off.

[Oooruk]

I've heard talk that Middies may be considered the underdog at this patch level with old RA's. I'm not intellectual enough to be able to say personally, though.

Alb will one hundred percent be the underdog at this patch level. A typical alb group will need 5 spots reserved to cover all the core abilities to make a good group vs the 4 spots hib and mid will need. Add that Alb will have no endurance regen outside potions (paladins don't have det and purge is on a 30 minute timer at this patch level) and you are at a MAJOR disadvantage.

I had a 50 paladin and cabalist on uth 1.0. I also played Alb on the Palomides server back in the day. Now that Nostalrius has close I'll be rolling here. Going mid or hib this time around.

[backman_66]

So pallies don't have endu chant at this patch level? Is that what you're saying? If so, that's TERRIBLE!

[Oooruk]

So pallies don't have endu chant at this patch level? Is that what you're saying? If so, that's TERRIBLE!
Paladins have endu chant but they do not have determination and purge is on a 30 minute timer, meaning any have decent ccer will keep them perma mezzed.

Paladins will still be the best tanks in the game for PVE, making them great farm bots.

[Cambiant]

DAoC is some of the best pvp I've played. I would love to be part of a realm war of the states v europe, that sounds perfect for this game. Where can I get more info and commit?

[Cambiant]

Nm, I'm lazy and skimmed OP.

[Nirgon]

All assassins are disliked in PvE. This game however doesn't center around PvE. Though IMO assassins are the hardest class to play in general. Leveling can be difficult, and RvR/PvP can be outrageously difficult (if solo) until you get the hang of it. Liiike gear, weapons swapping/poisons, when to use what styles, positioning, endurance management, picking when to fight & who to fight.

shadow blade can pve pretty decently with right spec

lol
what a blue scum. you a zerging shitlord??


aint a neck beard door banger like u, hit the bricks pal

[SamwiseRed]

shadow blade can pve pretty decently with right spec




aint a neck beard door banger like u, hit the bricks pal

nirgon blue as fuck

[Nirgon]

its called leveling up you freak

[SamwiseRed]

leveling up is for bluebies

/sets skill queue and goes pvping

feels good

[Cambiant]

This thread gave me a bug. Downloading DAoC now. Genesis looks like the most populated emu right now. Anyone want to mess around over there? I've only ever played mid seriously, I'd be down for any of the three.

[backman_66]

Here's a video that I came across of some RvR on the Genesis server, just to give people an idea of how PvP works on DAoC. This is from a Warden's perspective in the Hibernia realm (the class I'm going to main!). Some of it is in fast-forward to skip some of the slower parts I think. You may have to mute the music, I did :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0_2Jrt7Nk4

[Fifield]

bump! 22days....

Is there going to be a group of you playing with a guild and all? Don't know how much time i'll have to keep up but would love to come join.

[backman_66]

There will be a group, and I'd like to get it going, but I can't do it this time around for beta because I'll be out of the country starting on May 10th. But I'll be back later during the beta and before the launch.

[Goobles]

always turns into a private 8v8 club due to the following

-- not going out without a full group with perfect comp
-- spamming angry capital letters at "adding on fights"
-- hard snubbing
-- some people being truly bad at DAoC to the point that it validates the above

if there was *any* hope this would be a fun mass RvR server I'd care but its going to be a vicious grind up with PvDoor and basically arranged 8v8s with a ton of people sitting around LFG

Hope I'm wrong tho, and not that that I'd play but it would be great for the people who do. At least all the classes are supposed to work this time(??)

Isn't this the core of every guild on p99?

[Scrooge]

There will be a group, and I'd like to get it going, but I can't do it this time around for beta because I'll be out of the country starting on May 10th. But I'll be back later during the beta and before the launch.

Nothing a laptop with wifi couldn't fix...right?!

I cannot say for sure if I'll be around for this yet, but if I am, I'll definitely be a Mentalist in Hibernia. Swing by our old IRC channel if you have any questions or just want to say hello; you can either get the MIRC client or just connect via an IRC web applet through one of these:

https://kiwiirc.com/client

https://mibbit.com/

https://webchat.freenode.net/

Server: irc.rizon.net, channel: #uthgard. If the channels empty, just idle in it, someone is bound to pop in sooner or later.

[Scrooge]

If this is your first time playing DAoC, or it's been way too long to remember any details, I posted a huge amount of info in my old thread from 2014 which is linked to by the first post. However, if you don't want to go through all 29 pages worth, you can find most of the relevant information in the links under my sig.

I wrote out all the class descriptions myself, while trying to compare them to their "EQ versions," use that Character Builder to see how many abilities you can obtain by a certain level, though I'd personally suggest you plan it out for no more than 10-15 levels ahead. Most players think its best to just plan your spec for level 50 and just randomly invest the spec points, but unlike EQ, you can actually re-spec later down the line if you end up not liking your current spec path.

You'll be able to try things out in the BETA before making a final choice when the server goes 'live.' Check out this site here, for a few extra details regarding the BETA period: Uthgard: The Free Dark Age of Camelot Shard Open Beta Due in May (http://2p.com/41949428_1/Uthgard-The-Free-Dark-Age-of-Camelot-Shard-Open-Beta-Due-in-May-by-cindyhio.htm).

P.S. Check out the 'Current Guild Roster' link in the sig, at last count, we had at least 55 people wanting to band together under 1 guild, 34 from the P99 forum alone.

[Fifield]

Thanks for this info Scrooge, I was really hoping to play midgard cause back in the day i was a troll shaman but it really doesnt matter, if a bunch of you are hitting up hibernia i'll roll whatever.

Looking forward to this!!!

[Scrooge]

Thanks for this info Scrooge, I was really hoping to play midgard cause back in the day i was a troll shaman but it really doesnt matter, if a bunch of you are hitting up hibernia i'll roll whatever.

Looking forward to this!!!

Np. Midgard was my home realm also, and for a long time I didn't even touch the other realms. Even when I first started up on Uthgard, I went to Midgard first, Albion second. and Hibernia third - and my time in Hibernia was definitely the most fulfilling!

I'm not sure what kind of restrictions will be in place for this BETA, but you don't have to commit to any one realm if you want to try out the others and their classes. If you have any questions about any of the realms' classes, feel free to ask, I'll idle on IRC any time I'm around.

[Fifield]

Has this server been around for awhile? i thought it was just releasing in like 20 days?

[Scrooge]

It was up for more than 7 years prior to going down in January 2014. The reason for it was the revamp to make the server even "more classic," and implement a fully working Shrouded Isles expansion, whereas before only some of the SI classes were present. We all thought it wouldn't take more than half a year, that's pretty much the reason I made that other thread and tried to put together a "P99er Guild." It's a shame it took them so long to reach this point, but on the other hand - they completely wiped the player database, so everyone will be starting from level 1 and there won't be any high Realm Rank players around to kill the fun for the newcomers. This re-launch is something very unique because of the "fresh start" for everyone, although it'll happen twice in one year if it goes live soon after the BETA, cause the characters made will NOT carry over.

[Missingo]

I've only played midgard and this was eons ago, might give this a go. How does the Eldritch stack up to the Runemaster?

[Aalderon Crystafire]

Very exciting prospect !

Will the server be a progression (fingers crossed) to 1.65 or will it just start at 1.65 and stay there?

I first started on the Percival server as a Paladin - much loved in pve groups but I remember being pretty gimp in RvR. It took effort to bring me down but I was not threat so it was pretty much save me for last... ended up rerolling to Guinevere Hibernia as an elven void eldritch and I absolutely loved it. Void spec with secondary in Light (for a pretty decent aoe mez and nearsight!) and just enough Mana spec for the first PBAE to use for detection/scare off stealthers.

I have a short video somewhere of a Blademaster I made for the BGs where I ran around pretending to be a Ranger to bait out stealthers... I'll see if I can find any of them.

[Scrooge]

I've only played midgard and this was eons ago, might give this a go. How does the Eldritch stack up to the Runemaster?

Check this out: Class Descriptions for Hibernia (http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1520496&postcount=102)

Eldritch - Wizard class; mainly direct damage spells in both base and spec lines, they also get an AE Mez in the Light/Sun spec, as well as Nearsight, which lowers the casting/shooting range of enemies who either cast or shoot with a bow, etc VERY USEFUL spell in PvP, it's bolt-range too. The Moon/Mana spec has some good utility in it as well; it features the strongest PBAOE spell in the game, DD+Snare & the AE version, single and AE Disease (disease in this game slows down your movement, and makes all heals on target do only 50% of their value), there's also the single target STR/CON debuff, as well as an AE version later in the spec. The Void/Eclipse spec features a spec bolt (so you'll have 2 bolts if you spec in this line), there's also an AE DD, and GTAOE (which is known as ground target AE, means you can cast on a certain loc whether it has targets in it or not), and last but not least; resist debuffs for Body, Spirit, Energy, they have 3 strength levels, -15, -30, -50.

Also check out the Char Builder link under my sig, so you can see exactly what spells you get at which levels and with which spec.

For those of you who are playing for the first time or haven't played in a very long time; Base spells are spells you get automatically as you reach a certain level, and Spec spells you only get when you spend training points into said spec. Every caster, healer, and some of the melee hybrids get both types.

So to use the Eldritch as an example here, they get a single target Stun which gets longer in duration as you level up - first version is only 3 seconds at level 5, while the final version is 9 seconds at level 46! It can be extremely lethal, especially if you combine it with a PBAOE bomb or two, can drop people before the stun ever wears off.

However, unlike EQ, CC spells in DAoC start an immunity timer which lasts 1 minute after a certain spell has been used, so if you use the stun - after it wears off, the target cannot be stunned again for 1 minute, this affects every type of CC spell - Mezzes, Roots, Snares, and Stuns.

[Scrooge]

Very exciting prospect !

Will the server be a progression (fingers crossed) to 1.65 or will it just start at 1.65 and stay there?

I first started on the Percival server as a Paladin - much loved in pve groups but I remember being pretty gimp in RvR. It took effort to bring me down but I was not threat so it was pretty much save me for last... ended up rerolling to Guinevere Hibernia as an elven void eldritch and I absolutely loved it. Void spec with secondary in Light (for a pretty decent aoe mez and nearsight!) and just enough Mana spec for the first PBAE to use for detection/scare off stealthers.

I've no idea if it will be progression style, I did suggest it to them on their forums 2 years ago, would be way more fun to play the game without any Spellcrafting or Alchemy IMO.

We'll definitely need someone to be an Enchanter with the Moon Spec for the PBAOE, the Pet Focus Shield, and especially the Heat/Cold Resist Debuffs! Me being a Moon Spec Mentalist would also be the ideal counterpart to Enchanters, with Mana Regen, the strong Heal Over Time, the stack-able DoTs, and the very lethal Heat-based nukes out of the Sun Spec. Resist debuffs for elemental damage have a much bigger potency in this game than in EQ. A Caster-based group out of Hibernia can be very deadly even at low-mid levels if people learn to exercise their teamwork!

Btw, if anyone wants to see what the OLD RA spec system is going to look like, use the Character Builder here (http://nixianplay.com/index.php?page=charbuilder) instead of the one in my sig.

[Millburn]

I played a bard for 8 years from release and I'm down to play Hib again in May. Thanks for keeping us in the loop Scrooge. Really looking forward to this.

[FoxxHound]

I've only played midgard and this was eons ago, might give this a go. How does the Eldritch stack up to the Runemaster?

Eldrich wins every. single. time. Assuming you both aren't bolt range and they don't get lucky. If they land a level 10~ ish nearsight on you. You're gonna have a bad time. They gotta be really lucky though. However, as a Hibernian caster you have faceroll to victory with STUN! You don't even have to spec to get it either~

[Sinadin]

sorry if this has been asked already:

buffbots are not allowed I assume?
buffs from other players have a limited range?
only 1 char can be logged in at the same time?

[Scrooge]

I played a bard for 8 years from release and I'm down to play Hib again in May. Thanks for keeping us in the loop Scrooge. Really looking forward to this.

Np, although this is backman's thread, I'm glad I can still help out in some way. Are you planning on playing a Bard as your primary char in the BETA or will you be trying out other classes?

sorry if this has been asked already:

buffbots are not allowed I assume?
buffs from other players have a limited range?
only 1 char can be logged in at the same time?

No buffbots; buffs did have a range within which they were effective - although this was the case in the previous version of Uthgard, and seeing as how they are planning to run under a much earlier patch version, I'm not 100% on this. As for being able to login more than 1 char at a time, it was possible to do it before, and most people would only do it to trade items between chars, but if you get caught doing that you'd be risking a permanent ban nonetheless.

[Krycek]

If they had long duration potions other than the 10 min buff pots I would play there. Played on origins/genesis and prefer soloing so pretty much needed the pots but seemed like all I got done was farming for more gold to buy pots. Got old fast. I always had a buffbot back in the day to solo on my inf.

[Oleris]

Looking to join a legit 8 man as a caster. Sorc/cab/theurg on alb. RM/SM on mid. Any caster on hib. I hit RR10 right when TOA landed on percival server.

[Millburn]

Np, although this is backman's thread, I'm glad I can still help out in some way. Are you planning on playing a Bard as your primary char in the BETA or will you be trying out other classes?.

Haven't really decided on exactly what I'm playing yet. I've been tossing around the idea of giving Valewalker a decent chance this time around. All my time in DAoC was split between a Nightshade, a Bard, and a Cabalist. Definitely gonna branch out just haven't settled on anything concrete.

[Scrooge]

It'd be nice to have a Bard of our own for our guild/P99-crew groups, but if not I'm sure we'll be able to find one in-game. Depending on whether our group is more melee or caster type, a Bard's Endurance Song can make a huge difference - otherwise we wouldn't really need the Mana Song if I'll be a Mentalist. Having a Warden would be really good too, for melee groups especially, with their Damage Add chant and PBT (Pulsing Blade Turn) - this is kind of like a pulsing Rune but instead of absorbing a specific amount of damage like in EQ, it absorbs 1 entire melee hit, regardless of how much damage it does!

My personal advice is, don't play a class unless you really enjoy doing so! I usually pick and stick to one char like I would in EQ, but with DAoC it's a good idea to try to have 1 Caster Main and 1 Melee Main so you can experience the different sides of gameplay.

Use the BETA period to try different classes, especially ones you have never played before. Although it'd be great to have a PBAOE Bomb group for PvE and PvP both, it's some of the strongest spell damage in the game, and I'd support it with my healing and AoE DoT.

I'll re-post the Class Descriptions from my old thread so people can get a better idea and understanding of what to expect, cause while there are alot of similarities between EQ and DAoC classes, there are also many differences as well.

[Scrooge]

I'll post all available classes for Hibernia with my personal, basic class descriptions, grouped by their base classes, like 'healer-base', 'fighter base', 'caster base', etc.

Naturalist Base (healer): all get base healing, base buffs, basic rez (L10), basic group heal, can wear small-medium shields (but can't spec)

Bard - primary CC, endurance/mana/heal/speed songs, some healing, base buffs, cure disease/poison. Can also spec in weaponry for melee styles: -Blunt, -Blades

Druid - primary Healing, spec buffs, base buffs, resist buffs, pet, root/ae, dot, buff dispelling, spec rez (return with more HP/mana), cure disease/poison

Warden - base buffs, some healing, resist buffs, Group Damage Add chant, Group Pulsing Blade Turn chant (absorbs any melee hit every 10 seconds, can be decreased to 6 seconds depending on spec), Group Run Speed chant (comparable to low-lvl SoW, maxes out at 53% at 44 Nurture), Self Endurance Regen chant, Self Haste buff. Can also spec in weaponry for melee styles: -Blunt, -Blades, -Parry.

Guardian Base (fighters): all can spec Blunt, Blades, Piercing, Shields, Parry, can all wear Reinforced Armor, Protect ability (can be placed on friendly targets to attempt to take their aggro, good on casters/healers), Guard ability (requires a Shield on, attempts to block any melee hits on target, must stand real close, Guard I at 7 Shield spec), Intercept ability (attempts to take melee hit in place of friendly target)

Blademaster - Light Tank (primary melee DPS), Celtic Dual-wield spec, shield/parry specs, short-bows, Reinforced Armor, Advanced Evade (passive), Triple Wield (L25, Every 30 minutes you can summon a magical sword that adds 50% to your damage for 30 seconds. Charge RA (I'll add details for this awesome ability later)

Hero - Main Tank (defensive if shield spec, offensive if 2H spec), shield/parry specs, Large Weaponry (2H) spec, Celtic Spear (2H) spec, short bows, Scale Armor (L15). Initiate of the Hunt (class ability): You can turn yourself into a half-stag once every 30 minutes for 30 seconds. While in stag mode you get +25% to your HP (heal/total).

Champion - Hybrid Tank, melee with self STR/CON(hp) buff, instant spells; DD, stat debuffs, snare. Large Weaponry (2H), Scale Armor (L20).

Magician Base (casters): all have a Heat based single target DD, single stun (duration improves every, self AF buff (AC equivalent), self Absorbtion buff (for melee dmg), and self bladeturn buff (absorbs 1 melee hit, L19). The base spells in the 'Sun' and 'Moon' lines are all the same for all 3 classes, the only different base spells are in the unique spec lines for each class. For example; Eldritches 3rd spec line is 'Void' which has bolt damage and instant stat debuffs, Enchanters 3rd spec line is 'Enchantment' which gives a heal spell for your pet, the summon pet spell, and a run speed group chant (equivalent to mid-lvl SoW), and Mentalists get the 'Mentalism' spec line which has a single target DoT and a base Heal.

Eldritch - Wizard class; mainly direct damage spells in both base and spec lines, they also get an AE Mez in the Light/Sun spec, as well as Nearsight, which lowers the casting/shooting range of enemies who either cast or shoot with a bow, etc VERY USEFUL spell in PvP, it's bolt-range too. The Moon/Mana spec has some good utility in it as well; it features the strongest PBAOE spell in the game, DD+Snare & the AE version, single and AE Disease (disease in this game slows down your movement, and makes all heals on target do only 50% of their value), there's also the single target STR/CON debuff, as well as an AE version later in the spec. The Void/Eclipse spec features a spec bolt (so you'll have 2 bolts if you spec in this line), there's also an AE DD, and GTAOE (which is known as ground target AE, means you can cast on a certain loc whether it has targets in it or not), and last but not least; resist debuffs for Body, Spirit, Energy, they have 3 strength levels, -15, -30, -50.

Enchanter - Caster Pet class (like EQ mage); Light/Sun spec gives a Heat-based DD, and instant atk speed debuffs single and ae versions. The Moon/Mana spec also gives the strongest PBAOE spell in the game, same one as Eldritch, but also has a Pet Focus Damage Shield which is one of the greatest pet spells (it does really awesome damage, but while in effect, the caster cannot move or cast anything else), the spec also gives resist debuffs for Matter, Cold, Heat! (Heat is the most used caster DD in Hibernia). Enchantment spec gives stat/proc buffs for the pet only, and a Damage Add buff which can be used on other players. There are various pets this class can summon at certain levels, some pets are casters and will nuke your targets, other pets cast regen on all party members, and another type is a tank pet, great for when using the focus shield.

Mentalist - Utility class (familiar to EQ Enchanter); Light spec gives single DD, AE DD, and a Charm 'chant' which drains your mana depending on the level of the spell. Mana spec gives single target DoT, AE DoT, HoT (heal over time, one of the best in the game), and Mana Regen (single target, until high 30s when you get the first group version). Mentalism spec gives a spec Heal equivalent to those of Druids/Bards/Wardens, single target Mez, Confusion, and Cure Mez! (at L28)

Stalker Base (stealthers): both classes can dual wield and receive the Celtic Dual spec line, both can spec in Piercing and Blades, as well as the Stealth spec line (the more points you invest in this, the less likely you are to be seen. Although you can still stealth without investing any points, you'll be seen from a farther range, and won't be able to stealth around mobs.

Nightshade - Rogue type, Critical Strike spec line (some of these attacks depend on you being able to stealth well enough to get within melee ranger without losing it,) they also get a Poison spec (the more points you put into this, the better poison you can use on your weps,) and they get 2 DD spells - one instant and one regular. Can only wear Leather.

Ranger - Archer type, Bow spec, Pathfinding spec (spells) includes; self-AF buff, self-STR buff, self-DmgAdd buff, self-DEX/QUI buff, and temporary Run speed buff (% of speed, as well as duration, increase as you level, maxing out at 95% and 30s.) Can wear Leather & Reinforced.

Forester Base (unique caster/fighter classes): they receive a combination of base spells ranging from; self AF buffs, Lifetap (instead of stun), Damage Shield, self Absorb buff, and the self Bladeturn like the other casting classes in the realm. Ofcourse Animists have a plethora of spells for their stationary pets and such, there are way too many to list here. These two classes came with the first DAoC expansion, Shrouded Isles, and they both wear cloth.

Animist - Pet Bomber class, summons these non-mobile shroom pets which can do various things like PBAOE damage or single target DD (random targets, you can't really control who they attack, they just attack anything within range). There are various pets which are limited to a single ability, depending on the spell being used, some cast Root nonstop, others cast Damage or a resist buff, etc. There are 3 versions of these pets, version A) can only summon 1 of, but can control which target it should cast its spells on, version B) can summon up to 15 of in one area, they cast their spells on random targets which are within range, and expire within 2min, version C) are like these Light grenades, you summon it with a target already in place, and it flies into the target and explodes. It's a pretty complex class, but once you play around with it a bit, it'll get much easier. Only thing is, it's a double-edged sword when it comes to PvP, on one hand it's awesome when it comes to Keep Defense, it's also great for an ambush, but out in the open field it can get difficult. Then on the other hand, it can get really dull having to camp keeps and bridges, to wait for someone to run into your traps. Overall though, I'd say it's one of the better and most unique classes in the game.

Valewalker - Hybrid Melee with some very decent spells, and a unique weapon spec for the Scythe. The spells are: instant DoT, instant Snare, self-Absorbtion buff (only casters get, but this version is much more efficient), Offensive Proc buff, Defensive Proc buff, and a 30s duration self-Haste buff with a recast of 2min. Another unique class brough by the first expansion of the game. This class can only wear cloth, but the Absorbtion buff more than makes up for it in the long haul.

note: Class Descriptions for Hibernia are done.

[Fifield]

Bump for how excited i am about this.

Sadly I won't be joining you guys on Hibernia though, when i contacted my friend who i played DAOC with as a kid, we both agreed we gotta relive our troll shaman/thane combo.

So i will see you guys on the battlefield, I hope the latency isnt an issue being in Canada with the server in Europe? or wherever it is

[Scrooge]

Bump for how excited i am about this.

Sadly I won't be joining you guys on Hibernia though, when i contacted my friend who i played DAOC with as a kid, we both agreed we gotta relive our troll shaman/thane combo.

So i will see you guys on the battlefield, I hope the latency isnt an issue being in Canada with the server in Europe? or wherever it is

That's quite alright, try whichever realm/class you want to try, it's what the BETA is there for after all. Shaman and Thane are both very fun classes to play, especially together in the same group. If you end up not liking your time in Midgard, you can always come over to Hibernia to join the P99 group later on.

Anyway, if anyone else would be interested in playing with the P99 group, make a post in this thread with the realm and class you'd want to try first, and maybe we can do some realm hopping to try different class combos. This game is way more interesting when it's being played with others, and if you're a first-timer in DAoC or Hibernia for that matter, being an EQ player will help you get adjusted much easier - since both games are from 'that era' of MMOs.

If you'd like to try classes from different realms, just list them in the same post like so:

Hibernia - Mentalist, Hero (Spear spec), Animist
Midgard - Skald, Healer (Aug spec)
Albion - Sorceror, Cabalist, Wizard (Earth spec), Armsman (Polearm spec) or Minstrel

[Spyder73]

I played Hib and Midgard...Maybe it was just the server I played on but Midgard always had an advantage in PVP with their AoE groups.

I think I will be playing Midgard this go round even though I remember the PvE on Warden was quiet rewarding. PvP on my Ranger was super fun also...sniping people out on the planes until a rogue came and stun locked me to death

[arsenalpow]

I never played DAoC, I literally know nothing about it. Is there anything monk like?

[Weekapaug]

Thx for the PM heads up, Scrooge! Haven't been around much of late...Been wrapped up in Fallout 4 on Xbox lately.

I'm down for getting into this with you guys. I'm an Alb at heart but had tons of fun in Hib, too. If everyone is going Hib I'd be inclined to go with a Bard main with Ranger alt or vice versa.

Have they said how long beta will last? Thinking I might wait for actual relaunch, depending.

[backman_66]

Beta will last only as long as it needs to. So the faster things get tested and bugs get hammered out, the quicker the server will launch.

@arsenalpow - No, there's not really anything that I can relate to a monk on DAoC. A savage on Midgard would be the closest thing. They use h2h type weapons and are quick.

[ddd]

I never played DAoC, I literally know nothing about it. Is there anything monk like?

Friars in Albion are literally monks, but play nothing like EQ monks.

[FoxxHound]

Savage on Midgard is kinda like a monk. They punch things. They hit REALLY fast and fairly hard.

[Fifield]

I never played DAoC, I literally know nothing about it. Is there anything monk like?

chest come play the savage class on midgard, im playing the shaman, my buddy a thane ( kinda like SK tank )

we need a dps and the savage would fit perfect, you cant FD but i'll keep ya buffed and alive. I swear i'll never run away when were out numbered :D:D

[Spyder73]

Is there a P99-like Wiki that has the items that will be in game?

Would like to see what items are available

[ddd]

if you check allakhazam it'll list classic drops as old <dropname> nld. there were a few spoiler sites that might be on waybackmachine but there's nothing like the p99wiki around.

[Oooruk]

Does anyone from Palomides play here?

I played a paladin on that server; also played a paladin and caba on uth 1.0

Will be keen to play on Uth 2.0. I was planning to go Hib originally so would love to play with a pre-made crew.

Classes I'll be looking to roll:

Eldritch
Enchanter
Hero
Warden
Champion

[Scrooge]

if you check allakhazam it'll list classic drops as old <dropname> nld. there were a few spoiler sites that might be on waybackmachine but there's nothing like the p99wiki around.

That IS one of the weirdest things surrounding this server, how there is no actual WIKI around, despite it being around longer than P99. I'd normally use camelot.allakhazam.com, it has plenty of info relevant to Uthgard still.

There's a site Germans use, and it's easy enough to translate using Google to make entire pages in English; http://wiki.templer-gilde.de/de/ - it has some good info on it, but nowhere near complete.

I never played DAoC, I literally know nothing about it. Is there anything monk like?

Savages in Midgard are all about their DPS with H2H but can also use 2H weapons if you spec them for it. Friars in Albion are a type of Monk which are melee/cleric hybrids, they have a unique Staff weapon spec line. Hibernia doesn't really have anything close to a Monk, it's more of a caster focused realm. What other classes do you like out of EQ/P99?

Simply put, Midgard is a prominent melee class realm, Hibernia is all about casters, and Albion is in-between. That's how the game was when it just came out anyway, until the Devs started bending to every whine to "balance the game out."

I'll make a roster later in the day, so we can see what kind of group we can get going. Check out my Hibernia Class Info (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2244412&postcount=77) post on page 8 of this thread, if you've never played DAoC or Hibernia. Then there's also this here: http://camelotherald.wikia.com/wiki/Class - it's actually a VERY decent site - http://camelotherald.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_Age_of_Camelot_Wiki - I suggest everyone check it out atleast once.

[Scrooge]

I'll be on IRC for the rest of the day if anyone needs to get in touch with me. (server irc.riizon.net, chan #uthgard, mibbit.com if you don't have a client or want to chat on a phone.)

[Millburn]

I think I've settled on Animist so if you want to jot me down for that I think I'll lock that in. Super tempted to roll a Chanter first for powerlevelling but fuck it, they're so boring.

[Missingo]

How long is beta set to last??

Not sure if I am going to go Midgard or Hibernia. Never played Hibernia and don't know jack about their classes, what's a decent melee in that realm? I did fuck around with a Ranger for like 10 levels but that was about it

[Scrooge]

I think I've settled on Animist so if you want to jot me down for that I think I'll lock that in. Super tempted to roll a Chanter first for powerlevelling but fuck it, they're so boring.

Cool, either one of those classes will make leveling a breeze. I'll most likely go with a Mentalist to backup the group with heals and mana, or maybe a 2nd Animist! I think last time Uthgard was still running, the shroom pet cap per any one area was at 15, which is still way more than we can make between 2 lowbie/ungeared Animists.

How long is beta set to last??

Not sure if I am going to go Midgard or Hibernia. Never played Hibernia and don't know jack about their classes, what's a decent melee in that realm? I did fuck around with a Ranger for like 10 levels but that was about it

There is no set date, they intend on running the beta as long as needed to iron out any left over bugs. It's like Backman_66 said earlier, the faster players report bugs, the faster beta will be over with. My personal estimation is about 4 months, but knowing the way they did things on that server in the past, it could take up to a year...so we may as well put a P99 group/guild together and get this show on the road!

Check out my last post on page 9 of this thread, for links to class description sites or you can just check the one in my sig. The char builder can show you every single spell and melee ability for all 3 realms, good for planning ahead some.

Tell me which classes you normally enjoy in EQ, and I may be able to suggest something proper like, this goes for everyone!

...and come on IRC guys, it's much easier to talk all this over via a live chat room, it's all text based if you haven't used it before. I'm on there right now with some fella named crith, anyone know who that is on the forum?

[Scrooge]

OK - so here it is thus far - Total interest from this thread to play Uthgard together: 31

**and if you want to be removed from the list, just PM me or tell me on IRC**

This is basically 4 full groups, if we end up playing all at the same time.

Scrooge - Mentalist or Animist [Hero/Champion alt for meleee group]
Backman_66 - Warden
Millburn - Animist or Enchanter [Bard alt for melee group maybe?]
Weekapaug - Bard or Ranger
Oooruk - Eldritch/Enchanter/Hero/Warden/Champion
Oleris - Eldritch/Enchanter/Mentalist/Animist, Bard?
Spyder73 - Warden or Ranger [might be going to Midgard?]
Missingo - Eldritch [void/mana spec?] or Enchanter
Aalderon Crystafire - Eldritch [void/light?] or Blademaster
Foxxhound - ? (pg5)
Cambiant - ? (pg6)
Goobles - ? (pg6)
Cecily - ? (pg5)
Nirgon - ? (pg5)
Daywolf - ? (pg3)
mrgoochio - ? (pg3)
Zar211 - ? (pg3)
Tewaz - Enchanter or Blademaster or Valewalker (pg3)
Skew - Ranger [maybe BM instead?] (pg2)
Evia - Bard or Ranger (pg2)
Goliathan - ? (pg1)
Beastagoog - ? (pg1)
Rick Sanchez - ? (pg1)
xKoopa - ? (pg1)
Xaanka - ? (pg1)
Swish - ? (pg1)
magician - ? (pg2)
arsenalpow - ?
Sinadin - ?
Fifield - going to Midgard (Shaman with a friend Thane)
Surron - Mid/Thane (Fifield's friend?)

We will need some people to volunteer to be 'Guild Crafters,' I'll try to come up with some kind of system so you won't have to fund it alone, so the guild will help out.
There is a function for Taxes which caps out at 20%, this isn't as horrid as some people make it out to be, but I won't turn it on until we reach some kind of consensus on it.
Eventually we'll also have a Guild House with crafters/merchants and the whole shebang, if Housing will be enabled that is!

I'll be on IRC every time my PC is on from now on, so if anyone needs to get in touch with me or talk about the guild or whatever:
(server: irc.riizon.net, chan: #uthgard, use https://www.mibbit.com if you don't have a client or want to chat on a phone.)

Drop by IRC if you guys really want to get this thing organized before the server goes up in the first week of next month!
It'd be a good idea to download and install the game client in advance, don't wait until the last minute when their servers will be overloaded like crazy.
Use the links in my sig for more details.

P.S. Post your regular play times and time zones so I can see what classes we may have on at what times etc. I'm in the EST and can adjust my schedule depending on majority of guild.

[Cecily]

Was interested in crafting. Is there a good overview / guide to crafting somewhere you could link please?

I'm gonna be Nightshade / Animist I think.

[Scrooge]

Was interested in crafting. Is there a good overview / guide to crafting somewhere you could link please?

I'm gonna be Nightshade / Animist I think.

Since they're going for an older patch version, it's not that easy to find sites which are still up with the proper info matching that era. I did dig this site up from web.archive.org and it shows guides for crafting as well as a bunch of classes from all 3 Realms.

Crafting Economics 101 (https://web.archive.org/web/20051124204322/http://strategy.guardiansofvalor.com/Strategy/PharaohCraftingGuide.asp)

Classes of Camelot Guides (from 2005 and earlier) (https://web.archive.org/web/20051013064158/http://www.classesofcamelot.com/Guides.asp)

I'll update your class choices at the next 'roster update' cause it won't let me edit my posts, and I wouldn't recommend making a Nightshade as a first char with no gear...it's alot like if you'd imagine leveling a Rogue on P99 when it just came up in '09, with no money or gear. If you really want to give it a go though, just wait until we start getting leather drops from dungeons or named. An Animist would be great for AOE farming, especially if we have 2 of them in one group; they make these mushroom stationary pets which you can make 2-3 of per pull and automatically nuke anything within range. Be sure to check out the Character Builder if you want to see what spells you can get from which spec, cause there are 3 spec lines and they're all different.

Altwaal's Animist Guide (https://web.archive.org/web/20051018171608/http://www.rixsoft.com/RestlessSouls/Animist/)

Also check out the Uthgard forums, and check out some of the links in my sig, I haven't updated them since 2014 but they still hold alot of relevant data. http://www.uthgard.net/forum/index.php

[backman_66]

Simply put, Midgard is a prominent melee class realm, Hibernia is all about casters, and Albion is in-between. That's how the game was when it just came out anyway, until the Devs started bending to every whine to "balance the game out."

While it's true that Midgard is focused on melee, Hibernia on casters, and Alb is in between.. each realm does have options for every type of player. For example, Albion has a dual wielding light tank called a Mercenary, Hibernia's equivalent is Blademaster, and Midgard's equivalent is the Berserker. While they each have their own unique abilities, the class functions in pretty much the same way. So even if you roll a char in Hibernia, the "caster-focused" realm, there are still options for people who want to play a melee.

[FoxxHound]

Ranger, SB or Valehooker

[Cambiant]

Ranger.

[Tankdan]

ill check it out

played very little back in the day, but I did remember having fun times

[Amargura]

I'll be making a healer in Midgard, wanna try that realm, always been a hippie. (looking for people to play with)

[Scrooge]

Just an FYI for people wanting to be Rangers: in Uthgard 1.0 - Rangers had a Realm Ability called Physical Defense which is normally only available to pure casters who wear cloth, so they were able to take alot more damage than they were meant to.

In Uthgard 2.0, old Realm Abilities are making a comeback and so that means Rangers will not have Physical Defense RA available to them anymore, just keep that in mind, if you played a Ranger in the past - it won't be as easy this time around.

[Scrooge]

While it's true that Midgard is focused on melee, Hibernia on casters, and Alb is in between.. each realm does have options for every type of player. For example, Albion has a dual wielding light tank called a Mercenary, Hibernia's equivalent is Blademaster, and Midgard's equivalent is the Berserker. While they each have their own unique abilities, the class functions in pretty much the same way. So even if you roll a char in Hibernia, the "caster-focused" realm, there are still options for people who want to play a melee.

Very true indeed, and with old Realm Abilities they will be even more distinguished and unique!

ill check it out

played very little back in the day, but I did remember having fun times

Any idea which class you'd want to go with?

I'll be making a healer in Midgard, wanna try that realm, always been a hippie. (looking for people to play with)

That's too bad, we actually need Druids more than any other class atm, and Bards too!

P.S. Foxxhound and Cambiant, I'll add your class choices at the next update!

[Epinephrin]

But it's a beta so characters will be wiped after? Well just thought I'd bring it up. I'm definitely looking into it though!

[Fifield]

Bump =)

Just convinced 3 RL friends to join me in Midgard, along with some other online buddies. MIDGARD!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzJ0QC98Dv8

[Scrooge]

But it's a beta so characters will be wiped after? Well just thought I'd bring it up. I'm definitely looking into it though!

They will be wiped but there's no telling how long the Beta will last, it could be many months - given the server's history, they don't like to rush things.

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Anyway I finally downloaded and setup the game this morning, and DAoC Portal (kind of like an EQemu launcher/login-server equivalent.) It took just about 15-20 minutes to patch it all the way, it totals at about 4.7GB. Once the server is actually on and they'll put up the server patch, I imagine it'll be very slow with tons of people trying to get the client at the same time, so don't wait till the last minute!

It'd be great if we had the classes to make AOE XP groups going, it makes leveling so much easier and fun too. To do that, a group requires atleast 2 PBAOE bombers, the concept is the same as those Chardok AOE groups on P99, only we won't have AOE stuns - so we'll have to improvise with either Tanks taunting and peeling the mobs off the Casters, or some other form of CC. All pure casters in Hibernia (other than Animists,) get a single target Stun, which increases in duration about every 10 levels automatically.

The two classes with big damage from their PBAOEs are the Eldritch and the Enchanter (they also get pets with various abilities,) both get theirs from the Moon (Mana) spec-lines. The Animists also get a pet through which they can do something similar, out of the Verdant spec-line, but nowhere near as fast and strong. There are many other great spells in those spec-lines other than the PBAOE bombs, so you wouldn't be good at just that one thing.

Every Spec-line for every Class has different spells but also some things in common, like casters from the same Realm would share many 'Base Spells;' Stuns, DDs, self-AF buffs (armor-factor, aka AC, etc.) the ones they get automatically as they level up, without having to go to any trainers.

Anyway it's not too viable to start bomb groups right from the start with no gear at hand, but we can try anyway!

First you need to reach level 5 to be able to promote into a specific class type. When you create your char, you will select a type of base class which will branch out into advanced classes. Hibernian casters start out with the Sun and the Moon (Light and Mana) spec-lines available right at level 1, however you won't be able to get any Class spells until you reach level 5 and promote into one, so save your first training points.

[Scrooge]

Bump =)

Just convinced 3 RL friends to join me in Midgard, along with some other online buddies. MIDGARD!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzJ0QC98Dv8

Nice video (titled Uthgard Relaunch,) I had no idea they even brought back the old Vendo Zerk models!

[Swish]

If its popular I can see myself as a late entrant :p

[Fifield]

If its popular I can see myself as a late entrant :p

group of friends with any game is fun, Group of friends with DAOC, ohhh man come join the fun swish

[Oooruk]

Nice video (titled Uthgard Relaunch,) I had no idea they even brought back the old Vendo Zerk models!

Been playing around with specs for various classes. Do you have any sources for ideal spec? Group set-up? etc.?

[Kodim]

Is there ever a realm unbalance, and how does that factor into things if so?

[Missingo]

Might have to roll midgard myself... Thane...Warrior or Berserker?? Hmmmm

[Scrooge]

Been playing around with specs for various classes. Do you have any sources for ideal spec? Group set-up? etc.?

It depends on the class, there's really no right or wrong here, the further you spec into a single line the stronger all the spells it provides you with become. However, certain classes benefit more by spreading out into 2 or 3 spec lines at the same time.

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Is there ever a realm unbalance, and how does that factor into things if so?

There's no way to tell before playing the server, they did a complete wipe so everyone will be starting from lvl 1 with no money or gear.

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I thought about going to Midgard too at first, but every time I did so on this server in the past, it never turned out satisfactory in the fun department (in the end-game.) It was mostly Germans doing their own thing, and having to rely on PUGs which would rage quit after just 1 wipe in PvP, but who knows, maybe things will be different this time around. It has been a long time since and the server is way more popular now than it was 4 years ago.

I'm not trying to sway you from playing another Realm, just thought you may want to know what to expect so you're not too disappointed like I was when you get to 50.

[Scrooge]

Uthgard 2.0 - P99 Guild Roster Update #2 29 total

*I removed players going to another realm to keep it simple*

Scrooge - Mentalist or Animist [Hero/Champion alt for melee group]
Backman_66 - Warden
Kvasir - any
Corwin - Bard
Millburn - Animist or Enchanter
Weekapaug - Bard or Ranger
Oooruk - Eldritch/Enchanter/Hero/Warden/Champion
Oleris - Eldritch/Enchanter/Mentalist/Animist, Bard?
Spyder73 - Warden or Ranger [might be going to Midgard?]
Aalderon Crystafire - Eldritch [void/light?] or Blademaster
Foxxhound - Ranger or Valewalker
Cambiant - Ranger
Goobles - Bard
Cecily - Animist or Nightshade
ddd (crith on irc) - ?
Daywolf - ?
mrgoochio - ?
Zar211 - ?
Tewaz - Enchanter or Blademaster or Valewalker
Skew - Ranger [maybe BM instead?]
Evia - Bard or Ranger
Goliathan - ?
Beastagoog - ?
Rick Sanchez - ?
xKoopa - ?
Xaanka - ?
magician - ?
arsenalpow - ?
Sinadin - ?

P.S. Me and Kvasir are currently on in our IRC channel (use mibbit.com to connect, [B]server: irc.rizon.net, chan: #uthgard)
If you want us to answer any of your questions or ask for advice or w/e really, drop by!

[FoxxHound]

Just an FYI for people wanting to be Rangers: in Uthgard 1.0 - Rangers had a Realm Ability called Physical Defense which is normally only available to pure casters who wear cloth, so they were able to take alot more damage than they were meant to.

In Uthgard 2.0, old Realm Abilities are making a comeback and so that means Rangers will not have Physical Defense RA available to them anymore, just keep that in mind, if you played a Ranger in the past - it won't be as easy this time around.

...Dodger

[Kvasir]

Hello people. Finally Uthgard admins are alive again. Beta starts in 13 days. Finally some daoc time again.

[Scrooge]

...Dodger

I forgot all about Dodger....but it's 3% per level, 15% maxed out - hardly a replacement for Physical Defense though.

Kvasir here is one of my old friends from Uthgard, he'll be joining us in Hibernia along with a couple of more friends, all 3 being DAoC vets!

[FoxxHound]

I forgot all about Dodger....but it's 3% per level, 15% maxed out - hardly a replacement for Physical Defense though.

Kvasir here is one of my old friends from Uthgard, he'll be joining us in Hibernia along with a couple of more friends, all 3 being DAoC vets!

Weird. I remember when I was playing it maxed out at like 30 or 35. It made assassins OP as fuck~ I dropped purge and MoS and stuff for it.

[Scrooge]

Uthgard 2.0 Roster "patch"

ddd (crith on irc) - Druid
magician (engelburt on irc) - Mentalist

[Sorn]

I'll try it! Going druid :)

Disclaimer: I know hardly anything about this game so you will have to deal with all my noobish antics.

[Kvasir]

We all been in thoes shoes once. Lucky you that you dont know much. Sadly i know to much so its not as interesting as it was once. But still love this game. We will guide people who need advice.

[Kvasir]

Heh atleast now we have a exact date from uthgard that when we can get in the server :D

[backman_66]

I don't think it will take up to a year.. we are closer than you think. Most of the stuff is done, and there's already been closed beta testing, so the bigger bugs have been smashed already. Now we just have to go find some annoying ants and mosquitoes to squash out real fast, so the server can launch. I'm predicting 2-6 months of beta. Everyone is so excited about it, even the Devs have been MUCH more active lately, showing their determination on getting this opened up.

[backman_66]

I'll try it! Going druid :)

Disclaimer: I know hardly anything about this game so you will have to deal with all my noobish antics.

Man, I never even played live DAoC. My first experience was when Scrooge introduced me to Uthgard, several years ago. I absolutely loved it. I think it's a nice blend of PvE and PvP, and I'm really not into PvP games that much because I don't like competition. But the PvP in DAoC is just so legit.. and the points you get from doing it to spend on upgrading your character, which also helps in PvE.

[Scrooge]

I'll try it! Going druid :)

Disclaimer: I know hardly anything about this game so you will have to deal with all my noobish antics.

Glad to hear it! Don't worry about the learning curve, it's safe to say that players coming from EQ to DAoC get adjusted to PvE alot easier, than players coming from DAoC to EQ.

Druids in this game aren't just about being a healer/support class, they have some very good offense too, like being able to dispel the enemy's buffs. Stat Buffs make a much bigger effect on player/group performance in this game than people realize. The 'Nurture' spec-line has both; check out the Uthgard Char Builder (http://genuapp.appspot.com/char/class/druid.html) sometime.

Feel free to drop by our IRC chat channel, everyone should imo! Don't leave if no one replies right away, sometimes ppl are just semi-afk, and more of us will be present as we get closer to launch day.

[Goobles]

I'll be playing, albeit not full time. I'll be rolling with Scrooge, whichever team he chooses.

I think that if we could create a guild from P99 forumgoers, etc, we could be pretty successful. Grouping would be easy, we could get a core class makeup for the guild, and we could recruit what we need for whatever else we need.

[Sorn]

Glad to hear it! Don't worry about the learning curve, it's safe to say that players coming from EQ to DAoC get adjusted to PvE alot easier, than players coming from DAoC to EQ.

Druids in this game aren't just about being a healer/support class, they have some very good offense too, like being able to dispel the enemy's buffs. Stat Buffs make a much bigger effect on player/group performance in this game than people realize. The 'Nurture' spec-line has both; check out the Uthgard Char Builder (http://genuapp.appspot.com/char/class/druid.html) sometime.

Feel free to drop by our IRC chat channel, everyone should imo! Don't leave if no one replies right away, sometimes ppl are just semi-afk, and more of us will be present as we get closer to launch day.

The PvE is pretty straightforward, right? The emphasis seems to be on RvR.

I played with the char builder but without playing the game, it's just a table full of numbers and stats and words to me. Druids don't get nukes or anything, right?

[Oleris]

The PvE is pretty straightforward, right? The emphasis seems to be on RvR.

I played with the char builder but without playing the game, it's just a table full of numbers and stats and words to me. Druids don't get nukes or anything, right?

druids are the primary healer in hibernia. groups/spread and direct heals. Most builds are 42/30. 30 is the magic number in the healing line for the spread heal (grp heal that heals those that need the most healing). Near impossible to solo XP as a druid, but will always get a group for leveling.

[NegaStoat]

Just saw this thread. I'm giving this a go, I loved the shit out of DaoC from retail. The big question will be how it performs on a quad processor Win 7 machine. Nothing special but EQ had issues with it.

To reply involving druids, you could use a sword and board, scale armor (upper levels), and spec Nature (I think? going from memory) for a better weapon buff, better DoT damage, and a bigger pet. A druid spec'd for damage could solo pretty well, with limited Root crowd control to deal with a double pull. They were also absolute nightmares for stealthing classes in the mid level battlegrounds.

Someone remind me - you could respec your characer build points in the game up to... twice I think?

Edit - holy crap, I forgot how jam packed the Norse casters were. From what I recall, each realm HAD to have access to the same basic wide range of heals, buffs, debuffs, and CC so that there wasn't anything missing from any of the 3 realm choices. In order to accomplish that for the Norse faction, the healer / shaman and runemaster / spiritmaster were godly with their baseline / spec packages. I... I'm having a hard time forming a compelling argument to not ether roll a frostalf Cave shaman (to level / BG) or a Runemaster for bolts, nearsight, and basic bubble. Argh.

[Oleris]

Armsman: Sword and board tank or heavy melee damage only behind mercenary.

Cabalist: AE dotter. can debuff fire/cold for spell groups. Has a pet that annoys people.

Cleric: Main healer/buffer class.

Friar: cross between a paladin and a cleric. OK soloer, shit in RVR.


Infiltrator: Melee rogue. does shit in grp but invisibility.

Mercenary: highest melee dps, can't solo.

Minstrel: max speed. has shitty stealth and lots of ultility. Fun as hell to play

Necromancer: best soloer in albion. mana taps/xfers. plays soly through the pet. shit in pvp.

Paladin: main class that gives endurance that allows people to attack. can solo well, but slow. Really shit in rvr since damage is low, most grps just use potions for endurance.

Reaver: cross between a paladin and an armsman.

Scout: stealth archer, can't solo.

Sorcerer: main CC class. AE mez, can charm a pet.

Theurgist: spams pets based on spec. Air line is second highest nuke in albion.

Wizard: highest DD class in fire, PBAE nukes in ice for leveling. LOL at earth spec.


Animist: pet class in hibernia. good in siege defense and grping. not very fun IMO


Bard: main CC + max speed for hibernia. can patch heal as well

Blademaster: top melee dps in hibernia

Champion: same as armsman

Druid: main healer/buffer.

Eldritch: similar to an enchanter except no pet and has bolts like wizard

Enchanter: eldritch but with pet

Hero: self buffs and similar to champion

Mentalist: Crack 5 like sorcerer, decent nukes

Nightshade: same thing as asassin

Ranger: ranged archer with self buffs

Valewalker: lol

Warden: similar to paladin. has PBT that blocks an attack every X seconds. very annoying unless you swing fast.


Bonedancer: broken as fuck pet class that does great solo in pve and pvp, but doesn't nuke hard.

Healer: main CC/healer in mid. has exlusive AE stun which can lead to fast xp.

Hunter: archer with pet

Runemaster: similar to wizard.

Savage: most OP melee in mid if patch is right.

Shadowblade: infiltrator/nightshade basically.

Shaman: main buffer in mid. has annoying disease (slow/half heals PBAE).

Skald: fast speed, ok damage.

Spiritmaster: PBAE, nuke. pet. Closest is prob an enchanter in hib.

Thane: weird ass class. similar to paladin/warden except hits harder, has nukes, but none of the utility.

Warlock: weird ass class that stores spells in bubbles.

Warrior: sword/board class. high DPS with 2h anders.




most RVR (pvp grps) will go either caster or melee heavy
some common compositions
alb: sorceres get extra range on CC but suffers from class diversity and prob the current patch. Usually really popular but sucks at large pvp becuase of the utility issues.
alb melee: 2x cleric, minstrel, sorcerer 4x melee
alb caster: 2x cleric, minstrel, sorcerer, can go debuff spec with fire wizards, PBAE bomb grp with ice wizards or kite grps with theurgs,cabalists


hib: best caster realm with every caster getting a single target stun. lots of PBAE
hib melee: 2x druid, 1x bard 1x healer (bard,druid,warden) 4x melee
hib caster (fuck the stuns): 2x druid, 1x bard 1x healer 4x casters (all hib casters have single target stun)


mid: heavy on melee, savages will fuck your day up.
mid melee: 2x healer, 1x shaman, 1x skald 4x melees
mid caster bomb grp: 2x healer, 1x shaman 2-3x spirit masters, 1x rm
you can throw a RM in there for nearsight and blowing shit up in any of these grps as well.

[Scrooge]

Uthgard 2.0 - P99 Guild Roster Update #3: 30 total

Scrooge - Mentalist or Animist [Hero/Champion alt for melee group]
Backman_66 - Warden
Kvasir - undecided (probably a DPS of some sort)
Corwin - Bard
Millburn - Animist or Enchanter [Bard alt for melee group maybe?]
Weekapaug - Bard or Ranger
Oooruk - Eldritch/Enchanter/Hero/Warden/Champion
Oleris - Eldritch/Enchanter/Mentalist/Animist, Bard?
Spyder73 - Warden or Ranger [might be going to Midgard?]
Aalderon Crystafire - Eldritch [void/light?] or Blademaster
Foxxhound - Ranger or Valewalker
Cambiant - Ranger
Goobles - Bard
Cecily - Animist or Nightshade
ddd (crith/irc) - Druid
magician (engelburt/irc) - Mentalist
Sorn - Druid
Tewaz - Enchanter or Blademaster or Valewalker
Skew - Ranger [maybe BM instead?]
Evia - Bard or Ranger

Daywolf - undecided
mrgoochio - undecided
Zar211 - undecided
Goliathan - undecided
Beastagoog - undecided
Rick Sanchez - undecided
xKoopa - undecided
Xaanka - undecided
arsenalpow - undecided
Sinadin - undecided

[toastyoven]

gonna give this a go, never played daoc. Wanna go some kind of ranged damage. Wizard maybe? not sure.

[Oooruk]

Armsman: Sword and board tank or heavy melee damage only behind mercenary.

Cabalist: AE dotter. can debuff fire/cold for spell groups. Has a pet that annoys people.

Cleric: Main healer/buffer class.

Friar: cross between a paladin and a cleric. OK soloer, shit in RVR.


Infiltrator: Melee rogue. does shit in grp but invisibility.

Mercenary: highest melee dps, can't solo.

Minstrel: max speed. has shitty stealth and lots of ultility. Fun as hell to play

Necromancer: best soloer in albion. mana taps/xfers. plays soly through the pet. shit in pvp.

Paladin: main class that gives endurance that allows people to attack. can solo well, but slow. Really shit in rvr since damage is low, most grps just use potions for endurance.

Reaver: cross between a paladin and an armsman.

Scout: stealth archer, can't solo.

Sorcerer: main CC class. AE mez, can charm a pet.

Theurgist: spams pets based on spec. Air line is second highest nuke in albion.

Wizard: highest DD class in fire, PBAE nukes in ice for leveling. LOL at earth spec.


Animist: pet class in hibernia. good in siege defense and grping. not very fun IMO


Bard: main CC + max speed for hibernia. can patch heal as well

Blademaster: top melee dps in hibernia

Champion: same as armsman

Druid: main healer/buffer.

Eldritch: similar to an enchanter except no pet and has bolts like wizard

Enchanter: eldritch but with pet

Hero: self buffs and similar to champion

Mentalist: Crack 5 like sorcerer, decent nukes

Nightshade: same thing as asassin

Ranger: ranged archer with self buffs

Valewalker: lol

Warden: similar to paladin. has PBT that blocks an attack every X seconds. very annoying unless you swing fast.


Bonedancer: broken as fuck pet class that does great solo in pve and pvp, but doesn't nuke hard.

Healer: main CC/healer in mid. has exlusive AE stun which can lead to fast xp.

Hunter: archer with pet

Runemaster: similar to wizard.

Savage: most OP melee in mid if patch is right.

Shadowblade: infiltrator/nightshade basically.

Shaman: main buffer in mid. has annoying disease (slow/half heals PBAE).

Skald: fast speed, ok damage.

Spiritmaster: PBAE, nuke. pet. Closest is prob an enchanter in hib.

Thane: weird ass class. similar to paladin/warden except hits harder, has nukes, but none of the utility.

Warlock: weird ass class that stores spells in bubbles.

Warrior: sword/board class. high DPS with 2h anders.




most RVR (pvp grps) will go either caster or melee heavy
some common compositions
alb: sorceres get extra range on CC but suffers from class diversity and prob the current patch. Usually really popular but sucks at large pvp becuase of the utility issues.
alb melee: 2x cleric, minstrel, sorcerer 4x melee
alb caster: 2x cleric, minstrel, sorcerer, can go debuff spec with fire wizards, PBAE bomb grp with ice wizards or kite grps with theurgs,cabalists


hib: best caster realm with every caster getting a single target stun. lots of PBAE
hib melee: 2x druid, 1x bard 1x healer (bard,druid,warden) 4x melee
hib caster (fuck the stuns): 2x druid, 1x bard 1x healer 4x casters (all hib casters have single target stun)


mid: heavy on melee, savages will fuck your day up.
mid melee: 2x healer, 1x shaman, 1x skald 4x melees
mid caster bomb grp: 2x healer, 1x shaman 2-3x spirit masters, 1x rm
you can throw a RM in there for nearsight and blowing shit up in any of these grps as well.
I don't want to be an asshole but there is a lot of wrong info in this post.

For example, PBAE is trash in RvR. No alb group with any brains will ever run a wizard as a regular spot. They are just not versatile enough. Every alb group will want a cabalist for nearsight and body debuff. Caba + sorc lifetapping a body debuffed target is uber dps. Alb also will be relying heavily on theurgs. Dat pet spam. Alb and mid are at huge disadvantage due to only having one purge for NS and it's on a 30 min timer. Whereas hib has 3 purges to get rid of nearsight. Alb will also get fucked on endurance and need an endless supply of potions due to paladins not getting determination at this patch level.

Hib will always have 2x druid, 1x bard and 1x warden as its core. Ideally fill the rest of the group with an eld, hero, 2x BM. Possibly throw in an enchanter for one of the BM's for heat debuff and stacking nukes from eld + ench. Any hib group with out a hero is just silly and will get wrecked. Peels are king in daoc.

No one will run a PBAE group and be successful.

Hybrids and any melee without determination will tend to take sideline in RvR (reavers especially).

Hib will be the strongest realm (assuming equal player skill), followed closely by mid. Alb will be at the biggest disadvantage, though if played at an incredibly high skill level a good Alb group is scary.

Nearsight is going to be king at this patch level and any group without it will be get wrecked.

[backman_66]

Druids in this game aren't just about being a healer/support class, they have some very good offense too, like being able to dispel the enemy's buffs.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but buff shears are not in patch level 1.65.

[backman_66]

Edit - holy crap, I forgot how jam packed the Norse casters were. From what I recall, each realm HAD to have access to the same basic wide range of heals, buffs, debuffs, and CC so that there wasn't anything missing from any of the 3 realm choices. In order to accomplish that for the Norse faction, the healer / shaman and runemaster / spiritmaster were godly with their baseline / spec packages. I... I'm having a hard time forming a compelling argument to not ether roll a frostalf Cave shaman (to level / BG) or a Runemaster for bolts, nearsight, and basic bubble. Argh.

Roll an Eldritch and you'll get bolts, nearsight, aoe mez, strong nukes, disease, str/con/dex/qui debuffs, 9 second baseline stun, and a strong pbaoe for leveling faster.

EDIT: Ohh yeah I forgot to mention too, in this patch level, Frostalfs, Shar, and Half Ogres are not implemented.. :(

[backman_66]

I don't want to be an asshole but there is a lot of wrong info in this post.

For example, PBAE is trash in RvR. No alb group with any brains will ever run a wizard as a regular spot. They are just not versatile enough. Every alb group will want a cabalist for nearsight and body debuff. Caba + sorc lifetapping a body debuffed target is uber dps. Alb also will be relying heavily on theurgs. Dat pet spam. Alb and mid are at huge disadvantage due to only having one purge for NS and it's on a 30 min timer. Whereas hib has 3 purges to get rid of nearsight. Alb will also get fucked on endurance and need an endless supply of potions due to paladins not getting determination at this patch level.

Hib will always have 2x druid, 1x bard and 1x warden as its core. Ideally fill the rest of the group with an eld, hero, 2x BM. Possibly throw in an enchanter for one of the BM's for heat debuff and stacking nukes from eld + ench. Any hib group with out a hero is just silly and will get wrecked. Peels are king in daoc.

No one will run a PBAE group and be successful.

Hybrids and any melee without determination will tend to take sideline in RvR (reavers especially).

Hib will be the strongest realm (assuming equal player skill), followed closely by mid. Alb will be at the biggest disadvantage, though if played at an incredibly high skill level a good Alb group is scary.

Nearsight is going to be king at this patch level and any group without it will be get wrecked.

This dude knows what he's talking about. Good post brother. Eldritch is going to be extremely powerful if played well. That's going to be my second main, next to my Warden. I mained an eldritch in Uth 1.0.

[ddd]

There was a bit of misinformation in this post. I haven't played seriously in a few years but played at a very high level at points in the past. Here's a more accurate version:

If you'd like more information about a class or how it plays in RVR, PVE, etc, feel free to ask.

Albion

Armsman: Good tank in PVE, typically plays either a "peeler" or a dps role in RVR groups. A peel tank's role is to counter the enemy tank train: they guard the enemy tanks's targets, stun enemy tanks with shield styles, and use melee snare styles on them to keep them from reaching their targets.

Cabalist: Pet caster, popular in PVE. Can spec for AE dots (nasty with wild arcana in keep sieges where people won't consistently receive heals) in the matter line, but nobody that plays 8v8 RVR uses that build.

The strengths of this class in 8v8 are: nearsight, disease, a debuff that improves the damage of the main nuke used in the realm, solid pet. The only potential issue is that without access to the mastery of focus realm ability, spells may resist quite a bit due to being lower level. Might not get consistent pick up groups.

Cleric: Main healer/buffer class. Good class to play if you enjoy healing and want to find groups easily.

Friar: Healing / melee hybrid. Good in PVE, the resist buffs are useful in RVR, has a really solid snare style in staff spec. But won't get many groups unless you're amazing, charismatic, or have a set group with friends. Can heal decently but is countered by nearsight.

Infiltrator: Assassin for albion, can stealth. Typically played solo or grouped with other rogues in RVR, most serious (non stealth)players won't group with one. Really strong in this patch level at low realm rank. Solid dps in PVE.

Mercenary: Light tank of albion. Sort of like an EQ rogue or monk. They do great damage and have the ability to throw dirt in an enemy melee character's eyes, increasing their miss rate. Really popular class, great in PVE and RVR. Should have no problem finding a group as a mercenary.

Minstrel: Music class in albion. Really powerful if you know how to play it well, but difficult to master. They are similar to a bard in EQ (best speed buff, can charm)with a smaller range of abilities. They have one of the strongest realm abilities in this period. Desired in every situation typically.

Necromancer: Amazing group or solo PVE class. Bad in solo RVR, can work in one specific RVR group but nobody will group with in RVR unless they decided that they would from the start. The necromancer summons an undead pet, then becomes an invulnerable ghost (shade). The player can cast a few low range spells as the shade, but the majority of time is spent controlling the pet.

Paladin: A cross between an EQ bard and a warrior. They get access to short duration chants that buff their party. One of the buffs is an endurance regeneration, but the range is pretty low at this patch level, and without determination, they'll be stuck in crowd control for the majority of fights. They can tank well in PVE, really popular there. Probably won't get groups in RVR unless you have friends.

Reaver: "evil" paladin. Cool class, has a series of pulsing pbae debuff auras and their melee styles are really unique (some have spell procs added, one has increased range). Unfortunately, because they lack determination, nobody is going to pick one up for an RVR group. They were semi-viable on the old version of Uthgard with new realm abilities, but not really optimal here. Good PVE class, can be high DPS if their style procs land.

Scout: Albion's archer class, has access to stealth. At this patch level, assassins will be able to detect archers from quite far away. So it's probably best to play one of these in RVR with some infiltrator friends. Archery could never miss in PVE on the previous iteration of the server so they were good in PVE. Won't be invited to serious (visible) RVR groups.

Scouts were traditionally the strongest archer because they had access to shield slam, but due to the ruleset on Uthgard, they're probably the weakest. They lack the self buffs that other realms archers receive and do low melee damage.

Sorcerer: Similar to an enchanter from EQ. Access to a lot of debuffs, crowd control abilities, charm, and a few nukes. Good in group PVE and RVR, very boring to play on raids. Easy to find groups with.

Theurgist: Summons short duration elemental pets that attack your target. Useful for interrupting enemy casters in RVR and breaking to-hit code (if enough attackers are fighting a boss, it becomes significantly easily to land attacks on them) in PVE. Theurgists also have access to PBT which is desired in groups. It's an aura that blocks a melee attack every few seconds.

Wizard: One dimensional DPS caster, won't really receive 8v8 groups. They're solid in PVE and keep defense with the ice spec line.

Hibernia

Animist: Sets ground targets to summon stationary mushroom turrets. Really strong in PVE for the same reason the theurgist is. They are super strong in keep sieges, okay in open field RVR, but people probably won't invite you to 8v8 groups unless you're pretty good or their friend.

Bard: Music class for Hibernia. Main crowd controller for the realm that provides speed and endurance regeneration. Popular class, easy to find groups, but people will probably want you to lead the group in RVR, which may prove to be daunting to newer players.

Blademaster: Similar to mercenary for Hibernia.

Champion: A hybrid melee and debuffer. They have access to really strong debuff abilities, but, like the reaver and paladin, lack the determination realm ability, so most people aren't going to group you.

Druid: Like a cleric, but have access to a pet. Highly desired in groups.

Eldritch: Somewhat similar to a cabalist without a pet. They have nearsight, high damage nukes, disease, debuffs (no relevant resist debuff unless you're grouping with an animist). Popular class in RVR (light for 8v8, mana for keep sieges) and PVE (when mana specced). They're boring to play on raids.

Enchanter: Popular class in PVE. Pet caster with high damage nukes, but not much utility. They're famous for their resist debuff (heat) that matches the resist type of their stun and single target nuke. You will likely be able to find RVR groups as an enchanter, but they aren't as popular as eldritches.

Hero: Similar to armsman in Albion. Can transform into a weird stag thing for an hp boost. Main tank in PVE. Popular in RVR.

Mentalist: Interesting class but not as popular as the other two casters. In PVE you have the only usable HoT in the game and mana regeneration, so they're great in that regard. In RVR they have access to high damage heat based nukes that synergize with the enchanter debuff, cure mez, small heals, and a pulsing charm spell that can be used to break mezzes and roots on yourself. They're great in keep sieges because they can spec into AE dots like cabalists can.

Nightshade: Hibernian assassin, has access to an instant cast nuke on a timer and a casted nuke. They're probably the best assassin at high realm ranks with everything up.

Ranger: Archer class with a self buff line.

Valewalker: Caster / melee hybrid class. Doesn't nuke as hard as a caster, and lacks determination so they aren't amazing as melee DPS either. However, they're quite strong in solo RVR, and probably decent in PVE. They get to use cool scythes too.

Warden: Secondary healer and base buffer in Hibernia. Has access to pbt. Mostly heals people, snares tanks, and interrupts enemy casters in RVR. Popular in PVE, but not every RVR group wants to run one.

Midgard

Bonedancer: Pet caster with a commander pet and up to three AI controlled sub pets. The sub pets have differing roles based on your spec: they can be mages, healers, buffers, archers, etc. Most known for having an instant cast lifetap on a 4 second timer. Grouping as a BD will be similar to a mentalist on Hibernia. You're not a weak class, but there are only 8 spots and you don't really have anything that stands out in 8v8.

Healer: Main crowd control and healing class in Midgard. Has access to base buffs only. Really powerful class, fun to play, but difficult to play well. Easy to find groups on.

Hunter: Archer class with a pet, the ability to charm animals and some buffs.

Runemaster: DPS caster with access to nearsight and PBT.

Savage: High DPS melee class with short duration self-buffs that cost hit points instead of mana. Can use hand to hand weapons and potentially hit four times per round. They can put out great damage if you get lucky with swings, but can't get PF so they're not as useful as berserkers during this period.

Shadowblade: Were nerfed right before the patch Uthgard is based on. Somewhat weaker than other realms' stealthers, but can compete if you're a solid player.

Shaman: Main buffing class for Midgard. Primarily interrupts people in RVR. Popular in groups.

Skald: Midgard music class. They primarily use two handed weapons and have access to some utility chants, crowd control, and damage shouts. They're okay at this point, but due to group limitations they aren't super popular in high level RVR.

Spiritmaster: Pet caster in Midgard. Known for PBAE (for keep defense and leveling), a pet that can absorb melee swings directed at you if you're close to it, and debuffs. Again, somewhat similar to a mentalist, where you won't get consistent RVR groups.

Thane: Like a valewalker but uses chain armor. Their nukes aren't very strong, no determination. They were solid PVE tanks on the last iteration of Uthgard, but that involved an RA that no longer exists.

Warrior: Armsman / hero of Midgard.

Berserker: Mercenary / blademaster of Midgard, doesn't have access to shields, though.

[Oleris]

I don't want to be an asshole but there is a lot of wrong info in this post.

For example, PBAE is trash in RvR. No alb group with any brains will ever run a wizard as a regular spot. They are just not versatile enough. Every alb group will want a cabalist for nearsight and body debuff. Caba + sorc lifetapping a body debuffed target is uber dps. Alb also will be relying heavily on theurgs. Dat pet spam. Alb and mid are at huge disadvantage due to only having one purge for NS and it's on a 30 min timer. Whereas hib has 3 purges to get rid of nearsight. Alb will also get fucked on endurance and need an endless supply of potions due to paladins not getting determination at this patch level.

Hib will always have 2x druid, 1x bard and 1x warden as its core. Ideally fill the rest of the group with an eld, hero, 2x BM. Possibly throw in an enchanter for one of the BM's for heat debuff and stacking nukes from eld + ench. Any hib group with out a hero is just silly and will get wrecked. Peels are king in daoc.

No one will run a PBAE group and be successful.

Hybrids and any melee without determination will tend to take sideline in RvR (reavers especially).

Hib will be the strongest realm (assuming equal player skill), followed closely by mid. Alb will be at the biggest disadvantage, though if played at an incredibly high skill level a good Alb group is scary.

Nearsight is going to be king at this patch level and any group without it will be get wrecked.

ice wizards own siege defense with the way walls work man. I need to see what patch this will be on though. Daoc genesis/origins was fun except for the server crashes every 30 minutes. Mid might be strongest if savages are OP as fuck. AE stun bomb grps in mid will be successfull for a while until the melees have determinination 5.

[Aalderon Crystafire]

When Ice Wizards would stand against the keep doors casting their PBAEs, I - and the other void eldritches - would slide our GTAEs under the door and wreck them from a safe distance.

He's quite right, PBAE is fantastic for PvE but not RvR. In keep sieges/defense I'd rather have a Earth Wizard or Void Eldie than Ice or Mana.

[Aalderon Crystafire]

Also, I don't mean to say Earth Wizards are at all worth playing, just that GTAE is superior when it comes to keep fights. I believe Earth is pretty gimp? Midgard/Hibernia casters don't have to gimp themselves for GTAE.

[Missingo]

Eh I guess I will try out Hib, put me down for Ranger or Blademaster

[tristantio]

When is this going to be out?

[Scrooge]

Don't overthink your class choices and all that end-game 8v8 stuff, play whatever you like, there are no bad classes - it all comes down to how well you can master the class you play, and make it work within a group. One major point to a group isn't just "right or wrong setups," it's being able to compensate for each others weaknesses.

We'll be hitting up every single BG on the way up, so we'll have plenty of opportunities to try out our classes in RvR (PvP) and better our teamwork. I've seen all types of weird class/spec combinations over the years, and you can be successful without restricting yourself to a specific class spec just cause someone else thinks it's the only way to play the game.


Someone remind me - you could respec your characer build points in the game up to... twice I think?


Uthgard 1.0 allowed free single-line respecs at levels 5, 20, and 40. There's no word about whether this will still be the case in Uthgard 2.0, but for now we can assume that feature remains untouched.

When is this going to be out?

11 Days - https://uthgard.org/

Man, I never even played live DAoC. My first experience was when Scrooge introduced me to Uthgard, several years ago. I absolutely loved it. I think it's a nice blend of PvE and PvP, and I'm really not into PvP games that much because I don't like competition. But the PvP in DAoC is just so legit.. and the points you get from doing it to spend on upgrading your character, which also helps in PvE.

Excellent post, but "several years ago" = 2007!

Uthgard 2.0 Roster "patch"


TreegreatesT: Enchanter (Nightshade alt)
toastyoven: Eldritch or Enchanter
Missingo: Blademaster (Ranger alt)
NegaStoat: undecided / going to Midgard?
Kodim: undecided

[backman_66]

Uthgard 1.0 allowed free single-line respecs at levels 5, 20, and 40. There's no word about whether this will still be the case in Uthgard 2.0, but for now we can assume that feature remains untouched.

I browse the Uthgard forums a lot and I'm pretty sure a dev has confirmed the respecs will still be in place, I'm not 100% on it though.

[Scrooge]

Just to get things rolling as far as communication of the guild outside the game, try to use IRC as often as possible. Even if you are AFK most of the time while in there, the more people idle in the channel, the more active it will become.


We've created an IRC channel for our guild-to-be, for the time being, for all of us to meet in, on irc.rizon.net, channel #uthgard. It's great especially for a crew with varying time zones, we should all idle in our channel as much as possible, to get familiar with each other, live chat is a much better way of me answering any additional questions you may have, or even scheduling group times by posting them in the topic.

If you've never used IRC before, it's a simple chat-room kind of server, stands for Internet Relay Chat. To get the windows client, go to www.mirc.com, it's a fairly straight forward setup. Once you setup your nick/alias (use your p99 forum names for now, so I'll know who's who for the time being,) do /server irc.rizon.net, then /join #uthgard. You can even register your nick with a password so that no one can steal your name there and we'll always know it's the real you, syntax is: /msg Nickserv register passwordhere emailhere, then you'll get an email with a confirmation code you'll have to enter and that's that.
There's another way for all of you guys to communicate via live chat on iRC, for those who never used it before, it's a chat client - very easy to setup.

Windows Client software: www.mirc.com
server: irc.rizon.net
channel: #uthgard

It's a great way for everyone to meet everyone else who will be playing, to ask any questions you might have, or discuss everything from class specs to game mechanics, even play times or guild events. We can even leave messages in the topic section of the channel, so that even if no one is in there, you'll still be able to see it, kind like an ingame MOTD.

1) Download & install the client at http://www.mirc.com/get.html

2) When you start the app, just put in your nick, preferrably same one as your forum one

2a) What you can also do is register your nick with the server, so that only you can use it on that server, it's a good security measure.

3) In the Servers section, add "irc.rizon.net" with the default port: 6667

4) Then hit "Select", it will take you back to the Connect section, then hit "Connect"

4a) An alternative way to connect to a server is to simply type "/server irc.rizon.net" in the console/status window, or to change your nick without reconnecting by doing "/nick newname"

5) Finally type /join #uthgard, and you're done

Cya in there!

P.S. There are IRC apps for Smart Phones also (search: irc client,) they're even easier to setup and connect with.

[TreegreatesT]

Hi guys, haven't played p1999 in a while, but I still check in.

I'm currently playing DAoC Live, but will be playing on Hibernia when Uthgard comes out. I never played on Uthgard 1.0, but I tried the Origins server last year at release and it was pretty garbage. Excited to get into Uthgard should be way more fun then playing the Live DAoC servers.

Main will be a Mana Enchanter and eventually will level and template a Nightshade.

[backman_66]

Cool man, glad to have you aboard. The main reason I liked Uthgard 1.0 was the polish and overall stability of things, compared to other servers.

[backman_66]

UPDATE: Added a little how-to guide for using the character planner / builder. This is to help plan your build in advance. It can be found at: http://play.nixian.eu/index.php?page=charbuilder

The first picture is a tutorial on how to use it, and the second picture is an example Druid spec.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f241/backman_66/Druid%20Example_zpsgifdy7or.png

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f241/backman_66/Example%202_zpsjcjpk9yi.png

[tristantio]

Any idea if the client works with wine?

[Scrooge]

Any idea if the client works with wine?

Check this out: https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=77

mIRC 7.1 - This is the first stable version of mIRC with Unicode support and some (limited) support for Wine users.

As for the DAoC itself...

HowTo: DAoC client under Linux (e.g. Ubuntu)

Postby Metty » Thu Feb 12, 2009 8:27 pm

So, you have decided to try out this shiny new Ubuntu thingy and want to play some DAoC?

Getting DAoC to run under Linux is quite easy now-a-days:

1.) Installing Wine and Mono
Assuming you are using Ubuntu, just do it the easy way: Go on "System" -> "Adminstration" -> "Synaptic Package Manager", and click.
Then look for "wine", rightlick -> Mark for Installation.
Do the same for "mono-2.0-runtime", and install these packages by clicking on "Apply".

2.) Downloading DAoC
If you already got some version of DAoC from your windows partition, you can skip this step. But I would recommened to copy your DAoC Directory from your NTFS to your linux partition.

Otherwise you can probably download the DAoC Setup like the windows one, and run it with the Wine Command. Just go on "Accessories" -> "Terminal", CD to the directory where you saved the installer by doing e.g. "cd Downloads/", and then type in "wine <NameOfTheInstaller.exe>".

3.) Setting up DAoC Portal
DAoC Portal is still in a very unstable developement state under Unix systems, but still should run good enough for basic usage. Download the DAoC Portal setup, and run it again like the commandline you used to start the DAoC Installer. (You may also connect .exe directly to Wine and Mono apps!)

NOTE: I recommend you to install DAoC Portal directly in the DAoC directory you'll be using, as it will be much less painful. Sometimes the dolloader won't work when run from a different directory

After installing DAoC Portal, open up another terminal (Accessories -> Terminal), and CD to your daoc directory (cd ~/games/DAoC e.g.).
Then type in "mono Portal.exe". If you did everything right, a daoc portal window/config dialog should open up. As GameDir just enter a dot "." - If you did everything correctly, you should see some of your client details in the bottom right corner. Close the dialogue.

4.) Setting up the wine settings
Before running DAoC, you have to change some Wine-Settings. Open the wine configuration by either typing "winecfg" in your terminal, or by clicking on Applications -> Wine -> Configure Wine.

Add "game.dll" as an application; select it and switch to the graphics tab. Disable "Allow Pixelshader" here, or your daoc will probably crash after the loading screen.

5.) Connecting...
Go back to your daoc portal client, and look if the serverlist has loaded. If yes, try to select the appropriate server (you may have to use your arrow keys, the list control is quite bugged); or enter the IP under the custom server tab. Then just enter your account name, and password, and press Enter (or click on the play button). DAoC should load up.

Notes
These steps just worked for me, so they may not work for you - Just test it. If you have anything to note, just post it.

[Ladros]

Add me as Nightshade please, I played one when the game came out and liked it a lot (such as sneaking up to someone, killing them, or causing confusion among the ranks of another realm).

[Yukon]

I'll be looking for a NA guild. I'm in the PST time zone and plan on playing Hib on Uth. Mostly in groups but sometimes duo with my kid. I would enjoy playing Warden/champ but we all know any group will pick up 2nd Druid/Hero (det5) before those classes.

Still undecided....Druid maybe.

[Aalderon Crystafire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVcdmDNx7zk&feature=em-upload_owner

Back in 2003, baiting stealthers into thinking my buffed up Blademaster was a Ranger. xD

Eldritch was way more fun though for me personally.

[Scrooge]

*Alright if someone is missing from a roster update, just make a post or PM me*

Uthgard 2.0 - P99 Guild Roster Update #4: 40 total

Scrooge - Mentalist or Animist [Hero/Champion alt for melee group]
Backman_66 - Warden
Kvasir - undecided (probably a DPS of some sort)
Corwin - Bard
Millburn - Animist or Enchanter [Bard alt for melee group maybe?]
Weekapaug - Bard or Ranger
Oooruk - Eldritch/Enchanter/Hero/Warden/Champion
Oleris - Eldritch/Enchanter/Mentalist/Animist, Bard?
Spyder73 - Warden or Ranger [might be going to Midgard?]
Aalderon Crystafire - Eldritch [void/light?] or Blademaster
Foxxhound - Ranger or Valewalker
Cambiant - Ranger
Goobles - Bard
Cecily - Animist or Nightshade
ddd (crith/irc) - Druid
magician (engelburt/irc) - Mentalist
Sorn - Druid
Tewaz - Enchanter or Blademaster or Valewalker
Skew - Ranger [maybe BM instead?]
Evia - Bard or Ranger

Daywolf - undecided
mrgoochio - undecided
Zar211 - undecided
Goliathan - undecided
Beastagoog - undecided
Rick Sanchez - undecided
xKoopa - undecided
Xaanka - undecided
arsenalpow - undecided
Sinadin - undecided

TreegreatesT: Enchanter (mana-spec/pbaoe)
toastyoven: Eldritch or Enchanter
Missingo: Blademaster or Ranger
Samwell (irc): Blademaster
Acez (uth forum): Bard
Yukon (uth forum): Warden or Champion
Ladros: Nightshade
tristantio: ?
Kodim: ?
NegaStoat: ?

[Oooruk]

Update for me:

Will be maining an eld (level as mana, then re spec to 46/28). Followed by a warden. I live in Australia, and due to life and job will be playing pretty casually, but because of my working hours I can play a lot of American times.

[Masq]

puke hib...

[Strifen]

PM sent.

If anyone is wondering what's useful and desirable on Hibernia. This list is pretty accurate from what I remember. We'll need plenty of druids and bards.

Hib

Druid - 5+
Bard - 5
Blademaster - 4
Warden - 3
Hero - 3
Eldritch - 3
Enchanter - 3
Champion - 2
Mentalist - 2
Ranger - 2
Nightshade - 2
Animist - 1
Valewalker - 1

(Note this is primarily for pvp groups)

[Scrooge]

Very useful link to see which town your Realm Race will start at: http://camelot.allakhazam.com/Start_Zones.html

[backman_66]

There's a new launch video up on the website, it's on the front page when you go to https://uthgard.org/

[Scrooge]

*Alright if someone is missing from a roster update, just make a post or PM me*

(+ prefix = a leader)

Uthgard 2.0 - Hibernia, P99 Guild Roster Update #5: 42 total

+Scrooge - Mentalist (Support Caster)
+Kvasir - ??? (probably a DPS of some sort) *Kilg0r/IRC*
+Backman_66 - Warden (Support Melee Hybrid)
+Acez (uth forum): Bard *CC/Support*

Spyder73 - Warden (Support Melee Hybrid)
Sorn - Druid (Support Healer)
Yukon (uth forum): Warden or Champion *Support/Tank Hybrid*

Goobles - Bard (Support CC)
Weekapaug - Bard (Support CC)
Evia - Bard (Support CC)
ddd (crith/irc) - Druid (Support Healer)
magician (engelburt/irc) - Mentalist (Support Caster)
Corwin (non-P99) - Bard/Druid? (Support Healer/CC)

Oooruk - Eldritch (Moon/pbaoe bomber) (DPS Caster)
Oleris - Eldritch (DPS Caster)
Aalderon Crystafire - Eldritch (DPS Caster)
toastyoven: Eldritch/Enchanter *DPS Caster*

TreegreatesT: Enchanter (mana-spec/pbaoe) *Pet Caster*
Millburn - Animist (Pet Caster)
Cecily - Animist (Pet Caster)

Strifen - Blademaster *DPS Melee*
mortisha (irc) - Blademaster *DPS Melee*
Missingo: Blademaster or Ranger *DPS Melee*
Samwell (irc): Blademaster *DPS Melee*
Foxxhound - Valewalker (DPS Melee Hybrid)
Tewaz - Valewalker (DPS Melee)

Skew - Ranger (Stealther DPS)
Cambiant - Ranger (Stealther DPS)
Ladros: Nightshade (Stealther DPS)

Daywolf - undecided
mrgoochio - undecided
Zar211 - undecided
Goliathan - undecided
Beastagoog - undecided
Rick Sanchez - undecided
xKoopa - undecided
Xaanka - undecided
arsenalpow - undecided
Sinadin - undecided
tristantio - undecided
Kodim - undecided
NegaStoat - undecided

P.S. I took out most of the alternative class choices to simplify the roster.

We are going to need to some volunteers to organize groups, people who know the game already, until we form a guild, and see where our in-game force is at.

[Ikabod]

My main concern is realm population balance. In WoW pvp, alot of people would xfer their characters to the dominant side in the battlegroup to EZ mode honor farm...totally scuzzy imo. I would rather be on the side of the underdog than the side bulldozing down opposition. Balanced forces would be amazing. Will importing a full guild from P99 have a noticeable impact on realm balance? Was English the primary language used for communication in the first iteration of Uthgard? Right now I'm leaning towards Midgard with Fifield as a savage or berserker but it's not set in stone.

Neezy <Aftermath>

[Ikabod]

Pretty much I would like to roll with all the P99 folks but I'd play on another realm to help keep RvR more balanced and interesting.

[Cambiant]

From what I've read on Uthgard forums, a lot of returning Euro guilds are commited to Alb/Mid. Hibernia would be my last choice going in solo, but I think it'll be exciting to roll with people from p99 on one realm. Definitely commited to stealth dps.

[backman_66]

There are multiple opinions on how the realms will be balanced. Some people have said that Albion will be the least populated because of not having a good source of endurance regen. Paladins DO have an endu chant, but they're going to be locked down by CC most of the time since they don't have access to Determination (reduces time on mez, root, snare, stun, etc). They predict this will lead paladins to not getting very many groups.

According to a poll that I did, based upon U.S. players ONLY, Albion will have the highest NA population. http://www.uthgard.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=33820&p=351866#p351866

Hibernia won't have any issues with population because they have some powerful RA's, such as Group Purge from druids (removes all debuffs, mez etc).

Midgard should be well populated as well because they will have an advantage, at least early on while everyone is lower RR, due to them being the strongest melee realm.

My personal advise is to play whichever realm you like the most, and stick with your friends. This means, come with us p99'ers to Hibernia :) I don't really feel that there will be too much realm imbalance, but I do think that Albion will overall be the least populated, not to the point of it being a hindrance though.

[Yukon]

*Alright if someone is missing from a roster update, just make a post or PM me*

(+ prefix = a leader)

Uthgard 2.0 - Hibernia, P99 Guild Roster Update #5: 42 total

+Scrooge - Mentalist (Support Caster)
+Kvasir - ??? (probably a DPS of some sort) *Kilg0r/IRC*
+Backman_66 - Warden (Support Melee Hybrid)
+Acez (uth forum): Bard *CC/Support*

Spyder73 - Warden (Support Melee Hybrid)
Sorn - Druid (Support Healer)
Yukon (uth forum): Warden or Champion *Support/Tank Hybrid*

Goobles - Bard (Support CC)
Weekapaug - Bard (Support CC)
Evia - Bard (Support CC)
ddd (crith/irc) - Druid (Support Healer)
magician (engelburt/irc) - Mentalist (Support Caster)
Corwin (non-P99) - Bard/Druid? (Support Healer/CC)

Oooruk - Eldritch (Moon/pbaoe bomber) (DPS Caster)
Oleris - Eldritch (DPS Caster)
Aalderon Crystafire - Eldritch (DPS Caster)
toastyoven: Eldritch/Enchanter *DPS Caster*

TreegreatesT: Enchanter (mana-spec/pbaoe) *Pet Caster*
Millburn - Animist (Pet Caster)
Cecily - Animist (Pet Caster)

Strifen - Blademaster *DPS Melee*
mortisha (irc) - Blademaster *DPS Melee*
Missingo: Blademaster or Ranger *DPS Melee*
Samwell (irc): Blademaster *DPS Melee*
Foxxhound - Valewalker (DPS Melee Hybrid)
Tewaz - Valewalker (DPS Melee)

Skew - Ranger (Stealther DPS)
Cambiant - Ranger (Stealther DPS)
Ladros: Nightshade (Stealther DPS)

Daywolf - undecided
mrgoochio - undecided
Zar211 - undecided
Goliathan - undecided
Beastagoog - undecided
Rick Sanchez - undecided
xKoopa - undecided
Xaanka - undecided
arsenalpow - undecided
Sinadin - undecided
tristantio - undecided
Kodim - undecided
NegaStoat - undecided

P.S. I took out most of the alternative class choices to simplify the roster.

We are going to need to some volunteers to organize groups, people who know the game already, until we form a guild, and see where our in-game force is at.

If going heavy caster groups I'll be going Animist and Warden/Druid.....

[Scrooge]

Pretty much I would like to roll with all the P99 folks but I'd play on another realm to help keep RvR more balanced and interesting.

It'll balance itself out - it always does, don't worry about it so far ahead of time.

If you want to come with us to Hibernia, let me know which class you'd want to play and I'll add you to the roster.

Player Roster Update

Fkfreeze (irc) - Bard (CC Support) *uth-forum*
Vorgarag (irc) - Animist (DPS Caster) *uth-forum*

Total: 44 players now!

[Scrooge]

Player Roster Update

Realmwarrior (irc) - Enchanter (DPS+Pet Caster)
Acez' Crew (+5 players) - undecided

Total: 50 players now!

[Lexical]

I am in. I need some details on where/when, but I am sure I can pick it all up. I played a monk(or something) on live and that is about it. I left it almost immediately back for EQ. Let me know the server and place to download and I'll join the horde.

[Scrooge]

I am in. I need some details on where/when, but I am sure I can pick it all up. I played a monk(or something) on live and that is about it. I left it almost immediately back for EQ. Let me know the server and place to download and I'll join the horde.

server: https://uthgard.org/

How to Connect Guide (http://www.uthgard.net/howtoconnect) on official site.

Realm: Hibernia. Check the previous pages for class descriptions posted by 'ddd/crith', and the other links in my sig. Let me know what you decide and I'll add you to the next roster update as our 52nd member!


P.S. I like your sig also, that's real love right there!

[Scrooge]

Check out this Realm Poll for US Players on the Uthgard forums:

http://www.uthgard.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=33820&p=351866

Currently it's at:

Albion 51 24%

Midgard 49 23%

Hibernia 37 17%

[Goobles]

<a href="www.unclesampicture.com">Join Hibernia today!</a>

[backman_66]

I am in. I need some details on where/when, but I am sure I can pick it all up. I played a monk(or something) on live and that is about it. I left it almost immediately back for EQ. Let me know the server and place to download and I'll join the horde.

Use my tutorial to learn how to properly use the character builder tool.

Character Builder Link:
http://nixianplay.com/index.php?page=charbuilder

Character Builder How-to:
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f241/backman_66/Druid%20Example_zpsgifdy7or.png

Example druid spec:
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f241/backman_66/Example%202_zpsjcjpk9yi.png

[Scrooge]

IRC How-to #1: How to Register your Nick (alias) for the Guild Channel.

1) Connect to irc.rizon.net (/server irc.rizon.net)

1a) If you need to change your nick; /nick name.

2) /msg Nickserv REGISTER passwordhere emailhere (e.g. /msg Nickserv register 123 123@123.com)

3) Check the email you provided for a confirmation code, and enter it onto IRC

4) Re-connect to the server and enter: /msg Nickserv identify passwordhere

5) /join #uthgard and ask to be added to the Guild Bot (only registered nicks can be added)

*This process takes no more than 1 minute tops, and makes it so no one else can use/take your nick. It also lets the other people in the channel know you're one of us!

[NegaStoat]

I have a few questions after reading the Uthgard FAQ and a bit in the older forums. I tried, but I had problems finding answers.

1) What classic update patch will the server be running on? This will confirm for me a great deal involving content to expect as well as class mechanics.

2) I read in the forums that Bolt spells of all kinds were being used with the wrong damage calculation in the previous iteration of Uthgard, so they were doing sharply less damage as they did in old retail and had a much higher miss chance (assuming no Melee happening on the target). Is this true, and is it expected to be fixed for this new launch?

3) I read on the forums that the game uses the newer UI as opposed to the classic UI. If that's the case, the big question I have is - does the game client also use the newer racial models?

4) Two types of quest questions. In classic DaoC (2001+ era) it was really damned difficult to find quests to level with. Different sentry NPC's at towers and similar outpost locations would give you level appropriate kill quest tasks, but in Hibernia those ran out very quickly. Sometime around 2002 Hibernia's kill tasks were expanded upon but it was still very slim pickings.

Will there be more quest avenues for players leveling as opposed to that era I am recalling? Also, tradeskill consignment quests. On the Uthgard server, are these in place for crafters at the 3 capital city hubs, and if so, what crafting level range is needed for them to no longer be offered?

Thanks.

[Byrjun]

1) 1.65

2) Yeah, bolts were underpowered on Uthgard 1.0 (some other things were too like Hib/Alb 2 handed weapons). Supposed to be fixed on 2.0. Test it in open beta.

3) I haven't played retail DAOC since like SI so I have no idea what the current models are like, but I know on Uthgard you can switch between classic player models and newer ones. I'm assuming they're up-to-date since Uthgard uses the retail client.

4) I don't know much about Hibernia. Uthgard 1.0 had kill tasks and there were guides on the forum for finding them. I know I did some on a low level Warden I was messing around with. 1.0 had consignment tasks, but I don't remember when they ran out.

Maybe someone has some more specific answers but as far as what will/won't be working on 2.0 no one has any idea until open beta launches in a week.

[backman_66]

Due to a personal conflict between a co-leader named Scrooge, I will no longer be guilding with him. So for any questions or concerns, ask him now.

I have to warn everybody that is going to be guilded with him. To put it simply, he has no regard as to how his words and actions impact other people. He will say whatever he wants, whenever he wants, because this is AMERICA, a free country. Even if those things attack his "friends" personal lives. He will piss people off, and he has in the past, and his guilds(plural) have failed because of this.

I will post a PM that Bryjun sent me regarding this very same issue, and I agree with him wholeheartedly:

"I will warn you though, please avoid Scrooge.

A couple times in the past he's organized groups from P99 to play on Uthgard with him. Both times have resulted in swift and utter failure, because Scrooge is just not a good person to play with. He'll take charge and belittle anyone with an opinion that differs from his own. He'll AFK in the middle of dungeons/pvp for huge swaths of time. If we wipe in a dungeon or in PvP he'll blame everyone but himself.

If you do include Scrooge with your group I will unfortunately have to find somewhere else to play, because he is just not a fun person to play DAOC with and history has shown that his negative attitude destroys guilds."

I was willing to give Scrooge another chance, but he's demonstrated time and again that he has no desire to keep his friends and to show them respect. I will not be playing with him this time around.

EDIT: Actually, I don't want one jerk to ruin my DaoC experience. While I won't be guilding with him, I still have high hopes to be a part of a separate guild that is a tight knit, FRIENDLY, nice guild. If there's anyone who's interested in that, shoot me a message. Thanks for your interest in the guild everyone.

[Scrooge]

How quickly the worm turns...

backman_66 tells me about his "Jehovah's Witnesses" organization, so I take interest and watch a documentary on them titled "Jehovah’s Witnesses Cult Exposed - Documentary Film (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CFqc0skRd8)."

He comes in IRC and I tell him I just watched this documentary on his organization, he then asks what it's about, I answer in detail, and he explodes..... So now suddenly I'm a bad guy and a bad guild leader and ......huh???

Why do people have to be so immature? If you don't agree with something being said, then don't, it can be as simple as that. I mean really...

In case some of you people want to know what he got angry about, it's the part where a family which used to belong to the Jehovah's Witnesses was being told they cannot agree to a blood transfusion for their newborn baby. If they agreed to the blood transfusion then they would be shunned and excommunicated. Then they got a letter from the local Sheriff telling them they will be charged for murder if they do not do the transfusion, to which the JW organization still told them ignore. So the family decided to save the life of their child, rather than obey these people who think they have the right to do this kind of thing to others.

Then there was another story about this family which lost their teenage son, because of this organization. All the people talking about it, explain how the JW organization promotes "family values" but in reality they destroy them and tear families apart.

THIS is what backman_66 is mad about, me relaying this information to the channel as part of a conversation about the documentary I had watched earlier.

[backman_66]

I asked what the documentary was about, when you started relaying false information and told me the documentary was written by EX-MEMBERS, I asked you to stop telling me about it, because you were saying things that weren't true and were slandering my religion. I said that you were offending me and my very way of life, and you continued to talk when I had asked you to stop, and that's it.

[backman_66]

Why don't you go ahead and post the conversation and show them where I "Exploded" because I certainly did not. If the words "stop" means "explode", I need to get a new dictionary.

[backman_66]

If I told you I'm a part of a Cool Car Kids club, and I wanted you to check it out, would you go watch a documentary on it called "Cool Car Kids cult exposed" written by ex-members who were kicked out and writing lies about the Cool Car Kids club? And then go tell your friend what you learned from it, and expect them to be happy?

[backman_66]

http://i.imgur.com/tRQh9C8.gif

[Scrooge]

Nothing really changed, I mean, you're still going on your vacation 3 days after the server goes up. Leaving me to deal with organizing a guild for all these people (except reiker ofcourse,) by myself. This was the case before this drama, and it's still the case now.

As for that message you posted in which Reiker is having a fit about me, that's old news. I already posted that message for everyone to see in our IRC channel a week ago, I really have nothing to hide.

If you want to have a good time in this game, come join our IRC channel and the guild we'll be organizing in-game in a week's time.

If you want to join backman_66 and reiker, who know nothing about leading a guild in this game, go for it, I wish you all the best.

[backman_66]

Nothing really changed, I mean, you're still going on your vacation 3 days after the server goes up. Leaving me to deal with organizing a guild for all these people (except reiker ofcourse,) by myself. This was the case before this drama, and it's still the case now.

As for that message you posted in which Reiker is having a fit about me, that's old news. I already posted that message for everyone to see in our IRC channel a week ago, I really have nothing to hide.

If you want to have a good time in this game, come join our IRC channel and the guild we'll be organizing in-game in a week's time.

If you want to join backman_66 and reiker, who know nothing about leading a guild in this game, go for it, I wish you all the best.

I mentioned from the start that I had a trip planned already. I'll be island hopping and soaking up the tropical sun in the Philippines 3 days after beta starts. Sucks to be me, right? :)

I'll be back in June, WELL before the actual server launches. And I'll be active during beta once I'm back. True, I've never been an actual guild leader, but I have extensive experience leading raids on EQ and being an officer, and I've also been an officer in DAoC guilds, so I know about the game. Leading a guild takes contributions from several members, it's a team effort.

You obviously know nothing about leading a guild either since yours fail everytime.

[Strifen]

If I told you I'm a part of a Cool Car Kids club, and I wanted you to check it out, would you go watch a documentary on it called "Cool Car Kids cult exposed" written by ex-members who were kicked out and writing lies about the Cool Car Kids club? And then go tell your friend what you learned from it, and expect them to be happy?

Why is it that you feel the need to even tell anybody you're a JW in the first place, trying to recruit some followers or something? Btw there are PLENTY of nut-job Jehovah's witness out there, just like there are crazy fanatical nutjobs found within every single religion (not saying everybody who is religious is crazy, but plenty of people take it to the extreme)

[Scrooge]

Why is it that you feel the need to even tell anybody you're a JW in the first place, trying to recruit some followers or something? Btw there are PLENTY of nut-job Jehovah's witness out there, just like there are crazy fanatical nutjobs found within every single religion (not saying everybody who is religious is crazy, but plenty of people take it to the extreme)

Cause he's extremely insecure and has major mental issues which he never resolved. Those JWs don't allow any of their members to seek professional help when they need it, and people end up committing suicide because of it, it's no joke. It's a horrible way to live imo, I don't know why he's so defensive over it, so much negativity.

Any time there's truth he doesn't want to hear, he closes his eyes and shuts his ears, and calls the other party ignorant.


You obviously know nothing about leading a guild either since yours fail everytime.

Yes, I know nothing about leading a guild, which is why you asked me to organize this thread into one right? Cause I'm such a bad leader? You've got some serious mental issues man, you should seek professional help.

[Scrooge]

For the people who still want to play with my guild: I will no longer post in this thread again.

I'll be updating the roster in another thread, Adios!

[Scrooge]

You obviously know nothing about leading a guild either since yours fail everytime.

Who is slandering who now...!? I find it interesting how easy it is for you to just throw away an 8-year friendship over something like this. I guess you're not so much a friend, as a pretender to being one.

It's so easy to criticize someone else and their work, when you yourself haven't done jack shit to even come close to building a guild from scratch and actually leading it. Despite all this, I've never held it over your head - just the opposite, I gave you an equal rank within my guild, but now I see that would've turned out to be a big mistake on my part.

Anyway I'm done replying to your stupid nonsense, make your own guild for a change and see how long that lasts. Reiker's half-assed attempt at leading lasted just under 3 days after I left that P99er group in his hands, and Kilg0r was there - he can verify all this.

I always play a game to have fun, as do those who play the game with me - if you still can't recognize that after all this time, then we really don't have anything more to talk about.

[Farzo]

YIKES EQ DRAMA

[backman_66]

I won't be replying to any of your baseless insults, especially since this has turned into a religious war in an open forum. It's hard enough to discuss religion in person, I know that from experience when preaching. I will say this though, every religion has it's crazies, but does those few people define an organization as a whole? No, if you want to know the truth about what we believe, I would suggest verifying it with the organization itself, not ex-members who harbor resentment and animosity.

https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/g201008/what-do-jehovahs-witnesses-believe/

[Nirgon]

man I might play dis box after all, good thread

Scrooge comin' up to look real like a real box Duke in here but we know that title is going to some 20 hour sesh a day Euro beard

[Nirgon]

i was gettin sukt 0ff in a st@1rw311 while I typed d@t

>thx an0n

ya fuckin fruit cake

[Nirgon]

she did on saturday, thanks for your interest

hope you got some payoff yourself for all that effort you put into the "I'm a racial hipster" look

maybe someone was mad enough at their dad, who knows

[Byrjun]

Yo don't drag me into yalls' drama.

I have no interest in leading a guild anyways. I'm not even playing in the same realm as you guys. I've already stated that I'm gonna be joining a different NA guild in Midgard (which will have some P99 members but isn't a P99 guild).

[Kvasir]

Sooo... some drama has come up with two of em. They wont be playing together. Well sad to see that, but life goes on, exp needs to be gained. Where ever realm you might join. I will be with Scrooge, have had lots of fun before many times, and will know that will have more fun. Lots of good ideas allready. I am not relying only on him to make me groups and if he needs to afk he will afk so fucking what, we move on he catches up eighter way we will all meet up in lvl 50 rvr. He never ever afked in the middle of a fight. Btw i have had my best days playing daoc in uthgard with Scrooge. But thats juts my point of view.


Like Backman replyed
"I will warn you though, please avoid Scrooge.

A couple times in the past he's organized groups from P99 to play on Uthgard with him. Both times have resulted in swift and utter failure, because Scrooge is just not a good person to play with. He'll take charge and belittle anyone with an opinion that differs from his own. He'll AFK in the middle of dungeons/pvp for huge swaths of time. If we wipe in a dungeon or in PvP he'll blame everyone but himself.

If you do include Scrooge with your group I will unfortunately have to find somewhere else to play, because he is just not a fun person to play DAOC with and history has shown that his negative attitude destroys guilds."

Well everyone will choose what every they want, all will have fun.
We have some core players allready that will play, some my real life friends i can 100% count on etc. some pople will join with they full group to our guild. One person who flipps out wont make a difference. Sadly i was not apart of that discussion.

See Ya in Hibernia or in the battlefield Maggots!!!

[Scrooge]

man I might play dis box after all, good thread

Scrooge comin' up to look real like a real box Duke in here but we know that title is going to some 20 hour sesh a day Euro beard

Funny thing about all this is, none of it has anything to do with Everquest or DAOC, or me as a player of either game, at all. All this drama-bullshit is because I happened to disagree with his religious organization, Jehovahs Witnesses, after watching a documentary on them.

If backman_66 had a shred of honesty, he would've said so from the start, instead he has a nervous breakdown and decides to go on a flaming spree to try and make me look bad, while failing miserably I might add. He's so insecure about his organization and his faith (if he even has any,) that he cannot handle anyone disagreeing with them.

[Byrjun]

he cannot handle anyone disagreeing with them.

Coming from the guy who started a Lizardman conspiracy thread and flamed everyone who disagreed with him...

[Scrooge]

Coming from the guy who started a Lizardman conspiracy thread and flamed everyone who disagreed with him...

More lies, talk is cheap, show some proof - unless you consider me ignoring posts from known trolls such as yourself as "flaming."

[Nirgon]

man dey scorched da urf of Gitem didn't they

yeah you have a blest one on here, I've done Hib 3x and might do Alb this go round

[backman_66]

Post the chat log Lizardman, unless you're too scared. lol he actually showed me youtube videos of that lizard conspiracy too.

[backman_66]

Here's an example from a previous guild falling apart (Milton = Scrooge):

http://i.imgur.com/ZFs7yS5.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/spgght3.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/PHKdQFS.jpg

[Byrjun]

More lies, talk is cheap, show some proof - unless you consider me ignoring posts from known trolls such as yourself as "flaming."

Well here's your thread trying to push the lamest and most easily disproven conspiracy theory, Flat Earth: http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=188675

In true Scrooge fashion you ignore anyone trying to actually discuss and refute the topic you bring up with comments like these:

"many of you are truly brainwashed beyond repair"
"I don't really expect any intelligent replies from these forums"

Anyways, here's the brilliant Lizardman thread: http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144257

My post that you "ignored because I was trolling" was just a list of contradictions in your own posts. I was genuinely curious for your explanation of why you describe these lizard people as "warlike" in one paragraph and yet not being allowed to murder people in the next. Another example is when you say they're so scientifically advanced we can't begin to comprehend their technology, and then later you say they haven't killed us yet because they're busy researching pretty basic technology (RFID chips, electrocution).

But again...

More lies, talk is cheap, show some proof - unless you consider me ignoring posts from known trolls such as yourself as "flaming."

So after asking you about some contradictory statements you made about these lizard people and asking you a couple times to stop ignoring me and to go back and address my questions, you responded with this:

"Every time you make a post, it's pretty obvious you don't bother reading, you're just lazy, or you have the reading comprehension of a 3rd grader."

So instead of actually discussing the topic like a normal sane person you just resorted to shit-talking me. So no, I wasn't lying, you post crazy shit and then flame people who actually try to discuss that crazy shit with you civilly.

For someone who does nothing but post threads telling people to "open their minds," you don't have a very open mind yourself. Any time someone offers up a counterpoint to any of your theories, you just call them a troll and ignore them. You realize that the definition of "troll" isn't "people who disagree with me on the internet" right? Probably why every community you try to form within online games falls apart faster than the Hindenburg...

[Oooruk]

You guys seem like fucking faggots and have really put me off playing with you.

[Scrooge]

You guys seem like fucking faggots and have really put me off playing with you.

It's got nothing to do with me or my friends. That guy thinks his ongoing stupidity is going to somehow stop people from enjoying the game with me. He probably thought the roster would get smaller after he left, but it got bigger instead....I wonder what that's about.

[Scrooge]

Here's an example from a previous guild falling apart (Milton = Scrooge):

http://i.imgur.com/ZFs7yS5.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/spgght3.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/PHKdQFS.jpg

This is the best you could come up with? 2 people talking shit behind my back is supposed to somehow make this new guild fall apart? Keep trying, I'm sure if you use photoshop, you can do better with the next attempt.

Btw I actually remember that time, they left because they didn't like the fact that I wanted everyone to pitch in to buy us a Guild House...so they criticize me about not being the leader they want me to be, leave, and quit the game entirely instead of joining a "better guild." I'm the negative one here?? And "threw someone under the bus"?? What were you running out of things to say or something?

[Scrooge]

Post the chat log Lizardman, unless you're too scared. lol he actually showed me youtube videos of that lizard conspiracy too.

This from the guy who thinks there are 144,000 of his "Jehovahs Witnesses" who are guaranteed to go to heaven and "rule with God" while the rest of the members are labeled as "other sheep" and you still fail to see the problem with this???

Well...since you asked so nicely, maybe just a little bit:

[16:35] <@backman_66> ok this is RIDICULOUS, why is my family so retarded. my aunt and uncle just bought a TEN BEDROOM / SIX BATHROOM house
[16:36] <@backman_66> and its just them, my grandma, and my nephew living with them
[16:36] <@FkFreeze> hey they dunno when your gonna move in too
[16:36] <@backman_66> no thanks, it's in the middle of BFE
[16:37] <@backman_66> its already bad enough that i live in Arkansas
01[16:37] <@Scrooge> whats BFE?
[16:37] <@backman_66> butt-f'ing egypt
01[16:37] <@Scrooge> and are they also in your organization?
[16:37] <@backman_66> yeah
[16:38] <@backman_66> we're supposed to strive to live simple lives
[16:38] <@backman_66> downsize, smaller payments allow for more focus on the more important things
01[16:38] <@Scrooge> guess not everyone follows the rules then
[16:38] <@backman_66> no they don't
[16:38] <@backman_66> that's typical of any organization though
[16:38] <@backman_66> you get your rotten ones
[16:38] <@backman_66> it's not really a "rule"
01[16:38] <@Scrooge> the documentary talked alot bout the founding of JWs
[16:38] <@backman_66> just a suggested way to live to be happier with less
01[16:38] <@Scrooge> and how they kept predicing the end
01[16:39] <@Scrooge> then it didnt happen so they pushed it back
01[16:39] <@Scrooge> the watchtower thing
01[16:39] <@Scrooge> they also said like, only the "special" ones will be saved
01[16:39] <@Scrooge> and the rest of the members are like "other sheep"
01[16:40] <@Scrooge> one of the people speaking in the docu
[16:40] <@backman_66> probably referring to the 144,000 that are going to heaven, the "other sheep" refers to the ones that will live on earth
01[16:40] <@Scrooge> was part of the "governing body"
01[16:40] <@Scrooge> as they call themselves
[16:40] <@backman_66> none are more special than the other, just different roles

Just how many contradictions do you guys make anyway?

[backman_66]

lol wtg buddy you can post a 1/10th excerpt from a chat log. Still too scared to post it in it's entirety.

[backman_66]

144,000 in heaven - Rev 7: 4

To rule as kings and priests - Rev 5: 10

Don't start a Bible war with someone who has studied it his whole life whereas you spend your entire life trolling forums.

[Nihilist_santa]

Way too early for a scriptural debate with a JW. You cant engage in those discussions because they always whip out their special translation of the bible. Their cult approved recent translation that goes against every translated unearthed copy of the bible dating to antiquity.

[magician]

damn bruh you spent your whole life studying a fantasy novel? very tight

[trite]

HIBERNIAAAAA

[backman_66]

Way too early for a scriptural debate with a JW. You cant engage in those discussions because they always whip out their special translation of the bible. Their cult approved recent translation that goes against every translated unearthed copy of the bible dating to antiquity.

https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/new-world-translation-accurate/

[Nihilist_santa]

https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/new-world-translation-accurate/

Dont care. Used to ride to work with a JW everyday 2 hour trip each way. Ive covered all of this before. Ive debated with them when they come to the door. Any objection or argument I make they point to THEIR translation and refuse to acknowledge any other meaning. They refuse to listen to any information about Russell or Rutherford (strange some of the ritualistic and stylistic similarities to some nefarious fraternal groups) and the most damning of all is they flat out ignore the fact that they have repeatedly declared the end of the world to all of their followers and each time nothing happens and they back peddle.

If you want to address any of the above before we get to the ridiculous JW translation then perhaps we can have a go around.

[Nirgon]

can I sign up for a go around?

Any Alb guilds crootin?

[Nihilist_santa]

You think I'm made of go arounds?

ETA: Speaking of Albs what is a good farm/raid class for Alb? Friars decent for that?

[Nirgon]

servant necro + enhance cleric best duo in entire game

add friar or ice wizard depending on group skill as 3rd

servant necro + pally + ice wiz + enhance clr as 4 man is insane... dump more ice wizzies or servant necros as available

love just blowing that hulk room up with it 8)


for solo I'd say death sight necro or cabby

[Scrooge]

144,000 in heaven - Rev 7: 4

To rule as kings and priests - Rev 5: 10

Don't start a Bible war with someone who has studied it his whole life whereas you spend your entire life trolling forums.

In order to accept the theologies of the Jehovah's Witnesses, you have to overlook and completely discount a myriad of Scripture passages. For some study on Hell, read Matthew 5:22-30, 10:28, 18:9; Luke 12:5, 16:23; 2 Peter 2:5 and Revelation 20:10. Hell is very real. It is as real as Heaven! You cannot believe in part of God's Word and then reject the other parts because they make you feel uncomfortable.

[Nirgon]

Alb option (nothin personal to my Hib pals, looking for a change of pace did Hib on Genesis)

pras Jehovah

http://www.vanquishguild.info/users/sign_up



fill out an application (please state that your app is for Uthgard, ignore the class/race selection, and after acceptance find our Uthgard forum in the "other games" forum).

[Ladros]

Y'all are crazy, going with my guildies now to Midgard. Game on bitches!

[Colgate]

why do people obsess over 8 man groups?

is pvp instanced to those amounts or something? or is it some weird "honor duel" type culture that formed?

[Man0warr]

Yeah 8 mans is just the culture that formed in classic DAoC. Usually wasn't enough for keep taking but more of a run and gun type ambush on similar or larger sized groups of players that were less prepared.

[Byrjun]

why do people obsess over 8 man groups?

is pvp instanced to those amounts or something? or is it some weird "honor duel" type culture that formed?

Some weird honor duel culture.

Like, if two 8 man groups are fighting it's considered rude to "add" on to the fight. It's kinda silly.

To be honest, in REAL classic DAOC I never remember such a strict 8 v 8 culture. The whole point of DAOC was massive Realm vs. Realm PvP. The 8 v 8 thing seems to be people trying to play WoW BGs inside of a different MMO.

[Masq]

You think I'm made of go arounds?

ETA: Speaking of Albs what is a good farm/raid class for Alb? Friars decent for that?

theurg or cab

[Missingo]

Some weird honor duel culture.

Like, if two 8 man groups are fighting it's considered rude to "add" on to the fight. It's kinda silly.

To be honest, in REAL classic DAOC I never remember such a strict 8 v 8 culture. The whole point of DAOC was massive Realm vs. Realm PvP. The 8 v 8 thing seems to be people trying to play WoW BGs inside of a different MMO.

Fuck that shit, zerg em

[backman_66]

Jehovah's Witnesses use the entire Bible and do not dismiss any scripture whatsoever. Gehenna simply does not refer to what you refer to as "Hell." The word “hell” is found in many Bible translations. In the same verses other translations read “the grave,” “the world of the dead,” and so forth. Other Bibles simply transliterate the original-language words that are sometimes rendered “hell”; that is, they express them with the letters of our alphabet but leave the words untranslated.

What are those words? The Hebrew she’ohlʹ and its Greek equivalent haiʹdes, which refer, not to an individual burial place, but to the common grave of dead mankind; also the Greek geʹen·na, which is used as a symbol of eternal destruction.

In response to whoever said that we don't credit other translations, we sure do my friend. You will find within this post some material from our organization showing that we use other translations as well sometimes to get a more rounded-out perspective of the true meaning behind words from their original source. We also use trusted literary sources and quotes from influential people from history.

"Does the Bible indicate whether the dead experience pain?

Eccl. 9:5, 10: “The living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all . . . All that your hand finds to do, do with your very power, for there is no work nor devising nor knowledge nor wisdom in Sheol,* the place to which you are going.” (If they are conscious of nothing, they obviously feel no pain.) (*“Sheol,” AS, RS, NE, JB; “the grave,” KJ, Kx; “hell,” Dy; “the world of the dead,” TEV.)

Ps. 146:4: “His spirit goes out, he goes back to his ground; in that day his thoughts* do perish.” (*“Thoughts,” KJ, 145:4 in Dy; “schemes,” JB; “plans,” RS, TEV.)

Why is there confusion as to what the Bible says about hell?

“Much confusion and misunderstanding has been caused through the early translators of the Bible persistently rendering the Hebrew Sheol and the Greek Hades and Gehenna by the word hell. The simple transliteration of these words by the translators of the revised editions of the Bible has not sufficed to appreciably clear up this confusion and misconception.”—The Encyclopedia Americana (1942), Vol. XIV, p. 81.

Translators have allowed their personal beliefs to color their work instead of being consistent in their rendering of the original-language words. For example:

(1) The King James Version rendered she’ohlʹ as “hell,” “the grave,” and “the pit”; haiʹdes is therein rendered both “hell” and “grave”; geʹen·na is also translated “hell.”

(2) Today’s English Version transliterates haiʹdes as “Hades” and also renders it as “hell” and “the world of the dead.” But besides rendering “hell” from haiʹdes it uses that same translation for geʹen·na.

(3) The Jerusalem Bible transliterates haiʹdes six times, but in other passages it translates it as “hell” and as “the underworld.” It also translates geʹen·na as “hell,” as it does haiʹdes in two instances. Thus the exact meanings of the original-language words have been obscured.

Does the Bible indicate that the soul survives the death of the body?

Ezek. 18:4: “The soul* that is sinning—it itself will die.” (*“Soul,” KJ, Dy, RS, NE, Kx; “the man,” JB; “the person,” TEV.)

“The concept of ‘soul,’ meaning a purely spiritual, immaterial reality, separate from the ‘body,’ . . . does not exist in the Bible.”—La Parole de Dieu (Paris, 1960), Georges Auzou, professor of Sacred Scripture, Rouen Seminary, France, p. 128.

“Although the Hebrew word nefesh is frequently translated as ‘soul,’ it would be inaccurate to read into it a Greek meaning. Nefesh . . . is never conceived of as operating separately from the body. In the New Testament the Greek word [I]psyche is often translated as ‘soul’ but again should not be readily understood to have the meaning the word had for the Greek philosophers. It usually means ‘life,’ or ‘vitality,’ or, at times, ‘the self.’”—The Encyclopedia Americana (1977), Vol. 25, p. 236."

What is the ‘fiery Gehenna’ to which Jesus referred?

Reference to Gehenna appears 12 times in the Christian Greek Scriptures. Five times it is directly associated with fire. Translators have rendered the Greek expression geʹen·nan tou py·rosʹ as “hell fire” (KJ, Dy), “fires of hell” (NE), “fiery pit” (AT), and “fires of Gehenna” (NAB).

Historical background: The Valley of Hinnom (Gehenna) was outside the walls of Jerusalem. For a time it was the site of idolatrous worship, including child sacrifice. In the first century Gehenna was being used as the incinerator for the filth of Jerusalem. Bodies of dead animals were thrown into the valley to be consumed in the fires, to which sulfur, or brimstone, was added to assist the burning. Also bodies of executed criminals, who were considered undeserving of burial in a memorial tomb, were thrown into Gehenna.

Thus, at Matthew 5:29, 30, Jesus spoke of the casting of one’s “whole body” into Gehenna. If the body fell into the constantly burning fire it was consumed, but if it landed on a ledge of the deep ravine its putrefying flesh became infested with the ever-present worms, or maggots. (Mark 9:47, 48) Living humans were not pitched into Gehenna; so it was not a place of conscious torment.

At Matthew 10:28, Jesus warned his hearers to “be in fear of him that can destroy both soul and body in Gehenna.” What does it mean? Notice that there is no mention here of torment in the fires of Gehenna; rather, he says to ‘fear him that can destroy in Gehenna.’ By referring to the “soul” separately, Jesus here emphasizes that God can destroy all of a person’s life prospects; thus there is no hope of resurrection for him. So, the references to the ‘fiery Gehenna’ have the same meaning as ‘the lake of fire’ of Revelation 21:8, namely, destruction, “second death.”

No Symbol of Everlasting Torment. Jesus Christ associated fire with Gehenna (Mt 5:22; 18:9; Mr 9:47, 48), as did the disciple James, the only Biblical writer besides Matthew, Mark, and Luke to use the word. (Jas 3:6) Some commentators endeavor to link such fiery characteristic of Gehenna with the burning of human sacrifices that was carried on prior to Josiah’s reign and, on this basis, hold that Gehenna was used by Jesus as a symbol of everlasting torment. However, since Jehovah God expressed repugnance for such practice, saying that it was “a thing that I had not commanded and that had not come up into my heart” (Jer 7:31; 32:35), it seems most unlikely that God’s Son, in discussing divine judgment, would make such idolatrous practice the basis for the symbolic meaning of Gehenna.

It may be noted that God prophetically decreed that the Valley of Hinnom would serve as a place for mass disposal of dead bodies rather than for the torture of live victims. (Jer 7:32, 33; 19:2, 6, 7, 10, 11) Thus, at Jeremiah 31:40 the reference to “the low plain of the carcasses and of the fatty ashes” is generally accepted as designating the Valley of Hinnom, and a gate known as “the Gate of the Ash-heaps” evidently opened out onto the eastern extremity of the valley at its juncture with the ravine of the Kidron.—Ne 3:13, 14.

Therefore, the Biblical evidence concerning Gehenna generally parallels the traditional view presented by rabbinic and other sources. That view is that the Valley of Hinnom was used as a place for the disposal of waste matter from the city of Jerusalem. (At Mt 5:30 Ph renders geʹen·na as “rubbish heap.”) Concerning “Gehinnom,” the Jewish commentator David Kimhi (1160?-1235?), in his comment on Psalm 27:13, gives the following historical information: “And it is a place in the land adjoining Jerusalem, and it is a loathsome place, and they throw there unclean things and carcasses. Also there was a continual fire there to burn the unclean things and the bones of the carcasses. Hence, the judgment of the wicked ones is called parabolically Gehinnom.”

Symbolic of Complete Destruction. It is evident that Jesus used Gehenna as representative of utter destruction resulting from adverse judgment by God, hence with no resurrection to life as a soul being possible. (Mt 10:28; Lu 12:4, 5) The scribes and Pharisees as a wicked class were denounced as ‘subjects for Gehenna.’ (Mt 23:13-15, 33) To avoid such destruction, Jesus’ followers were to get rid of anything causing spiritual stumbling, the ‘cutting off of a hand or foot’ and the ‘tearing out of an eye’ figuratively representing their deadening of these body members with reference to sin.—Mt 18:9; Mr 9:43-47; Col 3:5; compare Mt 5:27-30.

Jesus also apparently alluded to Isaiah 66:24 in describing Gehenna as a place “where their maggot does not die and the fire is not put out.” (Mr 9:47, 48) That the symbolic picture here is not one of torture but, rather, of complete destruction is evident from the fact that the Isaiah text dealt, not with persons who were alive, but with “the carcasses of the men that were transgressing” against God.

If, as the available evidence indicates, the Valley of Hinnom was a place for the disposal of garbage and carcasses, fire, perhaps increased in intensity by the addition of sulfur (compare Isa 30:33), would be the only suitable means to eliminate such refuse. Where the fire did not reach, worms, or maggots, would breed, consuming anything not destroyed by the fire. On this basis, Jesus’ words would mean that the destructive effect of God’s adverse judgment would not cease until complete destruction was attained.

Figurative Use. The disciple James’ use of the word “Gehenna” shows that an unruly tongue is itself a world of unrighteousness and that one’s whole round of living can be affected by fiery words that defile the speaker’s body. The tongue of such a one, “full of death-dealing poison” and so giving evidence of a bad heart condition, can cause the user to be sentenced by God to go to the symbolic Gehenna.—Jas 3:6, 8; compare Mt 12:37; Ps 5:9; 140:3; Ro 3:13.

The Biblical use of Gehenna as a symbol corresponds to that of “the lake of fire” in the book of Revelation.—Re 20:14, 15

What does the Bible say the penalty for sin is?

Rom. 6:23: “The wages sin pays is death.”

After one’s death, is he still subject to further punishment for his sins?

Rom. 6:7: “He who has died has been acquitted from his sin.”

Is eternal torment of the wicked compatible with God’s personality?

Jer. 7:31: “They [apostate Judeans] have built the high places of Topheth, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, in order to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire, a thing that I had not commanded and that had not come up into my heart.” (If it never came into God’s heart, surely he does not have and use such a thing on a larger scale.)

Illustration: What would you think of a parent who held his child’s hand over a fire to punish the child for wrongdoing? “God is love.” (1 John 4:8) Would he do what no right-minded human parent would do? Certainly not!

What is the origin of the teaching of hellfire?

In ancient Babylonian and Assyrian beliefs the “nether world . . . is pictured as a place full of horrors, and is presided over by gods and demons of great strength and fierceness.” (The Religion of Babylonia and Assyria, Boston, 1898, Morris Jastrow, Jr., p. 581) Early evidence of the fiery aspect of some translation’s hell is found in the religion of ancient Egypt. (The Book of the Dead, New Hyde Park, N.Y., 1960, with introduction by E. A. Wallis Budge, pp. 144, 149, 151, 153, 161) Buddhism, which dates back to the 6th century B.C.E., in time came to feature both hot and cold hells. (The Encyclopedia Americana, 1977, Vol. 14, p. 68) Depictions of hell portrayed in Catholic churches in Italy have been traced to Etruscan roots.—La civiltà etrusca (Milan, 1979), Werner Keller, p. 389.

But the real roots of this God-dishonoring doctrine go much deeper. The fiendish concepts associated with a hell of torment slander God and originate with the chief slanderer of God (the Devil, which name means “Slanderer”), the one whom Jesus Christ called “the father of the lie.”—John 8:44.

[Bazia]

never played this but have it installed and am interested

anyone looking for new people to play with?

[magician]

Some weird honor duel culture.

Like, if two 8 man groups are fighting it's considered rude to "add" on to the fight. It's kinda silly.

To be honest, in REAL classic DAOC I never remember such a strict 8 v 8 culture. The whole point of DAOC was massive Realm vs. Realm PvP. The 8 v 8 thing seems to be people trying to play WoW BGs inside of a different MMO.

daoc 8v8 culture was around long before wow arenas, fat retard.

hope this helps

[Colgate]

burt where can i put in my app

[Krycek]

Just got the itch to watch some old school rvr vids i remembered watching back in the day. I'll share. So many more i could link but you get the gist.

https://youtu.be/gnah58qRvnc Mid 8 man zerg busting, one of the earliest daoc vids i can remember watching.

https://youtu.be/OOqYMcaQxSY Hib 8 man this time, more of the same.

https://youtu.be/c7vxZiSRHyY For any old igrainers, vid from Face the infil. one of the better infils i got to play with. good times

[Scrooge]

This post is only for those who wanted to play Hibernia with other P99ers:

Don't worry about the roster, the list wasn't a contract of any sort, I only made it so people would know who else is playing in Hibernia from these forums - and had an easier time grouping with each other.

Pop by our IRC channel (#uthgard) on Rizon if you still want to play with my friends in Hibernia. We have a good base of players outside these forums already, like those Midgard / Albion guilds some of you are joining.

While I may not be around that much, the people in IRC will help you out if you want to be included in our thing.

Enjoy the game!