Ragequitting CB

[serjordanmormont]

Is it kind of expected to have a group rage quit on you after wiping? I've been grouping in CB and the last few times my groups have wiped due to a train or over pull the group won't even help me get my corpse before camping. Sometimes without saying anything. You'd figure they'd at least help you with that but it's not been the case for me.

Is this a normal trend for this game? It's one thing at lower levels but I would hate it if it continued to later levels. I play a warrior so a lot of times I'll try and keep aggro to take the heat while my group runs to the zone but even then this happens. If so, maybe I should play a bard so I can pop selos and be the one bailing. jk, that's not my style.

[SamwiseRed]

how hard is it to get a corpse out of cb? the zone is the size of a closet.

[Mentathiel]

Generally, I've found any rogue in a party will offer to drag your corpse. Sometimes you have to ask, sometimes they will offer. I know I offer to corpse-drag for those classes who cannot do it themselves when I am on my rogue. At higher levels, you want to drag any and all corpses for a rez, so it's second nature.

I suspect that you have discovered a bit of an issue with warriors at your level; your one job is to hold aggro, but you haven't the tools to do it. Rogues who don't evade (something they can do from lvl 3 (http://wiki.project1999.com/A_Rogue%27s_Guide_to_Aggro#Losing_Aggro)) or whose hide skill is too low will pull aggro and blame you, wizards who nuke too early will pull aggro off you and then blame you, enchanters who don't mez properly will blame you, clerics who forget that healing gives aggro will pull aggro and then blame you. Your taunt skill is awful at your level, so you need to do most of the damage.

Get a good group with an enchanter who uses mezz, a cleric who uses root, a rogue who uses evasion and a wizard who nukes at the end rather than the beginning. A good group will never rage-quit. They might call it a day and make sure everyone gets out safely, but rage-quitting is usually a sign of players who don't know their class and get everyone wiped.

For your part, as a warrior, tell the puller if they are pulling too fast / too high-level mobs, ask the nukers to let you get a good amount of aggro before they start (rogues are awful for this) and make sure you are using taunt properly. Seriously, learn how to taunt (http://wiki.project1999.com/Taunt); don't just spam it (unless you are trying to skill up in a hurry) and taunt every time you lose aggro instead.

[Jimjam]

A lot of people at low levels are rusty and have not yet got used to their class/the game/their frustration.

As you level up, you'll find people are better at dealing with all these things so you're less likely to get into a frustrating situation, and even if you do your group members will be more likely to deal with it in a way other than ragequitting.

[Pyrion]

In zones like CB you don't need a rogue to pull a corpse. Any caster who can invis at that level (most casters) can do that.

I understand rage quitters when the group was perceived as real shitty. But just because of bad circumstances... that's lame. At least help everybody get their corpse back. The good news is that usually even people outside the group will help, that's my experience.

[Spyder73]

Probably just due to the low level range. Its definitely not what I would consider “a server problem” – Most groups I am in are fairly stable, but maybe that’s just because of my awesomeness

[Mentathiel]

For what it's worth, I was in a CB group which wiped this weekend; nobody rage-quit, plus both the rogue and enchanter offered to drag corpses out of the throne room without even needing to be asked.

I think OP was just really unlucky.

[Rick Sanchez]

god blue players are just a bunch of whiny liberals. I really miss the era of 2009 - 2012, before the faggots came.

[serjordanmormont]

how hard is it to get a corpse out of cb? the zone is the size of a closet.

Missed the point on this one.

[serjordanmormont]

Generally, I've found any rogue in a party will offer to drag your corpse. Sometimes you have to ask, sometimes they will offer. I know I offer to corpse-drag for those classes who cannot do it themselves when I am on my rogue. At higher levels, you want to drag any and all corpses for a rez, so it's second nature.

I suspect that you have discovered a bit of an issue with warriors at your level; your one job is to hold aggro, but you haven't the tools to do it. Rogues who don't evade (something they can do from lvl 3 (http://wiki.project1999.com/A_Rogue%27s_Guide_to_Aggro#Losing_Aggro)) or whose hide skill is too low will pull aggro and blame you, wizards who nuke too early will pull aggro off you and then blame you, enchanters who don't mez properly will blame you, clerics who forget that healing gives aggro will pull aggro and then blame you. Your taunt skill is awful at your level, so you need to do most of the damage.

Get a good group with an enchanter who uses mezz, a cleric who uses root, a rogue who uses evasion and a wizard who nukes at the end rather than the beginning. A good group will never rage-quit. They might call it a day and make sure everyone gets out safely, but rage-quitting is usually a sign of players who don't know their class and get everyone wiped.

For your part, as a warrior, tell the puller if they are pulling too fast / too high-level mobs, ask the nukers to let you get a good amount of aggro before they start (rogues are awful for this) and make sure you are using taunt properly. Seriously, learn how to taunt (http://wiki.project1999.com/Taunt); don't just spam it (unless you are trying to skill up in a hurry) and taunt every time you lose aggro instead.

Yeah I figured that might be the case. I'll do my best but with grouping, we just kind of form with whatever classes are available at the time. It's really annoying how seemingly under powered my warrior is. A friend geared me up with full RZ gear and a decent weapon too and still I suck.

[serjordanmormont]

A lot of people at low levels are rusty and have not yet got used to their class/the game/their frustration.

As you level up, you'll find people are better at dealing with all these things so you're less likely to get into a frustrating situation, and even if you do your group members will be more likely to deal with it in a way other than ragequitting.

That's reassuring. I can tough it out if that's the case.

[Jotei]

I do not believe I have encountered a situation like the one that you have described in the former orc stronghold of Clan Crushbone or anywhere else in my travels. I have encountered a few cranky individuals, but that is to be expected. The world is full of diverse personalities. Some of the best ways to deal with the sour ones are generosity and leadership. I share freely my stash of liquor with comrades, especially the cranky ones and work to inspire greatness in them.

Once recently in the City of Mist a combination of ignorance and inebriated bliss lead my party, with me at the forefront, to calamity! I was conversing with a group mate and was not fully aware of the severity of my location until it was too late. My presence angered a returning horde of constructs and undead, leading to the deaths of several group mates in addition to my own. We recovered though and I learned a valuable lesson that day: Captain Orlin's Spiced Ale is delightful!

[serjordanmormont]

In zones like CB you don't need a rogue to pull a corpse. Any caster who can invis at that level (most casters) can do that.

I understand rage quitters when the group was perceived as real shitty. But just because of bad circumstances... that's lame. At least help everybody get their corpse back. The good news is that usually even people outside the group will help, that's my experience.

Oh yeah and others were helpful for sure. Just felt that my group should have been the helpful ones. I was okay after dying once more. Just sucks cause I tried on my own fist and my corpse was in the throne room which was fine with a group, but death city on my own.

[serjordanmormont]

Probably just due to the low level range. Its definitely not what I would consider “a server problem” – Most groups I am in are fairly stable, but maybe that’s just because of my awesomeness

Your awesomeness probably doesn't hurt haha. I'm still what most would consider a newb.

[Crawdad]

Some people have very little patience for wipes. In particular you'll see twinks rage quit the group after a wipe. It happens, best to just laugh at them and keep on keepin' on. For the most part people are able to shrug off wipes/deaths and get back into groupage.

god blue players are just a bunch of whiny liberals. I really miss the era of 2009 - 2012, before the faggots came.

Why are Rick&Morty fanboys insufferable in everything they do.

[Loke]

First - if you are ever in a situation where you can't get your corpse, pull up a map of the zone and look for the closest location to your corpse that you can safely get to. Then go to that location and try to /corpse your body. You can /corpse through walls, and it is not affected by z-axis.

As for groups - no one really takes lowbie groups seriously. Once you get higher and the levels take longer you'll meet mor3 dedicated players, but in CB a lot of times you find people who log on for 20 mins to bang out a level or something. Best bet is to /friend people you like grouping with and start organizing your own groups. By the time I was like L20 on my first character I had already made friends with 8-10 people who I pretty much exclusively grouped with until we all hit max level. Even on the last character I leveled up, even though we didn't really become friends, I probably did 80% of my 50+ groups with the same group of people because we worked well together and had similar playstyles. You can try joining a guild, but there is really no replacement for sending someone a tell saying that you enjoyed grouping with them and are adding them to your friend list for future groups.

If you group with random people, you'll get random results. Hard to avoid it early on, but the sooner you can surround yourself with like minded players the more you'll enjoy the game imo.

[Baler]

I love the drama that hits the forums coming from Crush Bone. (whether its real drama or not) It's always fascinating to see lower level players react in that particular zone.

There have been so many funny, sad, weird stories from this zone. It's too bad they're not all recording in one glorious place.

If you've spent time in crush bone, you know.. you know

[Telron]

how hard is it to get a corpse out of cb? the zone is the size of a closet.

But a walk in closet at least...