Trump gets the shaft - Cruz proven communist [Archive]

Swish

04-11-2016, 02:05 PM

Baler

04-11-2016, 02:12 PM

With the increase is communication now-a-days,. I think it's becoming more apparent that the presidency in the united states from my understanding is less about the general peoples and more about the select few, Given some discretion to avoid total public chaos.

I can not speak from experience honestly but I just cant imagine that any, if not perhaps all the other countries of the world are under the same stipulations and false pretenses.

Here is to hoping for the best. What ever that is. :)

maskedmelon

04-11-2016, 03:16 PM

Here is to hoping for the best. What ever that is. :)

Plague.

Swish

04-11-2016, 03:35 PM

wipe it clean 2016 ?

Daywolf

04-11-2016, 04:55 PM

Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaang. .. wtf?!?
Yeah been listening to the shitestorm on talk radio today, just nuts.
Stupid republicrats. Those guys should get out to the polls locations tomorrow anyway, with pitchforks and torches (not speaking of flashlights you EU peeps). Not that the media would cover it, like a couple weeks ago at one of Donalds rallies there was one protester, just one, and all the media were swarming that protester and using shots of the line into the rally as the background with that one protester as if that was part of the protest.

I wonder if Blitz is still dreaming that at a brokered convention Cruz will still be handed the election lol

This all just looks so fixed for Hillary :(

AzzarTheGod

04-11-2016, 04:59 PM

...and Hilary Clinton. First female president.

There's no way she can lose, I just can't see it... as terrible as it's going to be.

I can't either. Especially since the attorney general said she wouldn't charge Hillary.

More partisan politics. The FBI is fed up with doing investigations for nobody for no reason having it sit in a locked vault. The commissioner even went out of his way to declare that the FBI is not a partisan organization when asked about the Hillary investigation, but hinted that the US attorney's office is.

dafier

04-11-2016, 05:22 PM

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/04/10/obama_clinton_didnt_intentionally_put_america_in_j eopardy_i_guarantee_no_political_influence_in_serv er_probe.html

Regarding Hillary. She is a criminal. She broke rules that ANY person with a clearance knows NOT to break or else they could face prison.

She intentionally broke them and has no remorse. The current POTUS is a liar and only wants to save himself embarrassment by saying what he said in that article and others.

She does have the majority of support and could possibly win, like Swish said. The sad thing is...

This proves that the majority of Americans really don't know what they heck is going on. America! Come in live in fantasy land! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

idiots....kinda like P99 blue.....it's all relative.

Daywolf

04-11-2016, 05:38 PM

Wow, much like al qaeda...

http://i.imgur.com/MqIeKoZ.jpg

...they took credit for the act.

Daywolf

04-11-2016, 06:10 PM

She does have the majority of support and could possibly win, like Swish said. The sad thing is...
It's not that, it's more about the past number of elections that drove out the voters to take the house and senate for the GOP. That momentum is still there to take the POTUS' seat outside of an incumbents reelection. Potentially either Donald or Ted could win it, but not if that momentum is tainted as it seems like the GOP/RNC is desperately trying to do.

I would even say they are risking a loss of the house and senate at this point, and a lot more possibly.

That's my take on it anyway, not hearing that anywhere, apart from the momentum being there which has been obvious over past years. Well if they are going to screw up, here is to hoping they screw up big and hand it all over to a third party with a vengeance, and while the dems screw up too as they seem to be doing. I guess people need to get mad enough to dump the RNC once and for all if they won't reform.

imo to fix this issue, Colorado should be rejected, subtracted, and the required 1,237 to win - lowered to 1,203.

dafier

04-11-2016, 06:20 PM

imo to fix this issue, Colorado should be rejected, subtracted, and the required 1,237 to win - lowered to 1,203.

Agreed.

AzzarTheGod

04-11-2016, 06:38 PM

Its almost May how the fuck has the nominee not been decided anyway?

Really, are delegates holding and abstaining in EVERY single state?

Pretty disgusting. This system is broken.

Trollhide

04-12-2016, 09:12 AM

What I don't get (this is an outsider's perspective etc) is that in all of the last 3 Presidential elections you've had the same recipe 3 times. The opponent isn't electable.

John McCain - "We'll keep on as we were under GW Bush"
Mitt Romney - "I'm disturbing, if you have brain cells you can't vote for me"
Donald Trump - "We'll build a wall, and likely kick out all the Muslims" (would solve some terrorist issues but you know anyone who isn't white can't/won't vote for him)

...on the other side of that you've got Barack Obama twice who had it easy. First black president etc, of course it was happening.

...and Hilary Clinton. First female president.

There's no way she can lose, I just can't see it... as terrible as it's going to be.
The fact that every one of those unelectable turdstains you mentioned (while failing to mention King of the Turds Ted Cruz) is a Republican is no coincidence. The party as a whole is completely out of touch with the modern social clime and is trying to drag the rest of the country kicking and screaming back into the 1950's. Their golden days, when a woman's place was the kitchen, segregation still existed, and "them queers" were seen as predatory deviants one and all. All while they loudly and publicly trumpet how much they love Jesus and Christian values. I'm actually very much a moderate, not a dem fanboy, but holy lord will I be tickled if Trump manages to bring the R party crashing down around him in civil war.

maskedmelon

04-12-2016, 01:49 PM

TL;DR - Hilary is already the next President

Villide

04-12-2016, 02:23 PM

The fact that every one of those unelectable turdstains you mentioned (while failing to mention King of the Turds Ted Cruz) is a Republican is no coincidence. The party as a whole is completely out of touch with the modern social clime and is trying to drag the rest of the country kicking and screaming back into the 1950's. Their golden days, when a woman's place was the kitchen, segregation still existed, and "them queers" were seen as predatory deviants one and all. All while they loudly and publicly trumpet how much they love Jesus and Christian values. I'm actually very much a moderate, not a dem fanboy, but holy lord will I be tickled if Trump manages to bring the R party crashing down around him in civil war.
Pretty much. It's amazing that the Dems are running two fossils, one that's corrupt as hell - and either of them are highly likely to kick the crap out of the Republican nominee in the fall.

A fiscally conservative, socially moderate Republican Party would be hugely attractive to independents and maybe even moderate Dems. But the R's are still trying to figure out how to corral their very loud minority.

Swish

04-12-2016, 04:02 PM

The only way i see a Republican President ever again is if some nation somewhere starts dropping bombs on America.

iruinedyourday

04-12-2016, 04:23 PM

yea pretty much.

or maybe if we nominated Hitlary.

maskedmelon

04-12-2016, 04:35 PM

She has a vagina though. People can feel good about themselves in voting for vagina with the comforting knowledge that they have done something beautiful, the least of which affirming their lack of misogyny in a nation wherein it runs rampant.

iruinedyourday

04-12-2016, 04:40 PM

Yea truth is no way hitlery would lose, no way any dem candidate is going to lose.\

Unless that candidate is not bernie, and bernie runs as an independent cus fuck Washington.

Blitzers

04-12-2016, 04:49 PM

http://www.wnd.com/2016/04/trump-erupts-as-cruz-sweeps-colorado-without-votes/

So this is the America that Cruz wants to build? Let's go ahead and forgo democracy and just bribe the electoral delegates with free trips and other quasi illegal handouts.

Blitzers propaganda trail is paying dividends it would seem

Ok let's clear up some lies your Nazi Leader Trump is spreading.

1. No Election... WRONG, there was actually 8 elections in Colorado with over 65,000 voters. Colorado votes for delegates who select the nominee. On the ballot is the delegates name it also has the name of the candidate (trump, cruz, kasich) next to the delegates name this is who that delegate supports. Trump lost the vote and lost the delegates.

2. Democracy... WRONG, the Republican Party is a private organization and if they wanna DRAW STRAWS to select their Nominee they have that RIGHT.

3. Ted Cruz somehow cheated... WRONG AGAIN, Donald is a lazy campaigner and his staff are incompetent and should be fired. The rules were available to all of the campaigns in August 2015 and Donald is nothing more then a whiney lil bitch that blames everyone else for his SMALL HANDS

AzzarTheGod

04-12-2016, 05:27 PM

AzzarTheGod

04-12-2016, 05:32 PM

Unless that candidate is not bernie, and bernie runs as an independent cus fuck Washington.

You can't run independent because the Media controls your exposure.

What debates are you going to have as an independent Bernie????? ZERO. No debates. The dems call Chafee and O'Malley and say "hey guys we need you to stay in this race for legitimacy a bit longer, for debates for TV". If Bernie didn't run dem, that is.

There will NEVER be an independent candidate with exposure.

iruinedyourday

04-12-2016, 05:47 PM

You can't run independent because the Media controls your exposure.

What debates are you going to have as an independent Bernie????? ZERO. No debates. The dems call Chafee and O'Malley and say "hey guys we need you to stay in this race for legitimacy a bit longer, for debates for TV". If Bernie didn't run dem, that is.

There will NEVER be an independent candidate with exposure.

we gotta change this system ffs :mad:

Blitzers

04-12-2016, 06:11 PM

So it has come to my attention Trump is being fucked out of optional delegates in every single state.

Nobody wants to talk about this. But they want to talk about Hillary's superdelegates.

Optional delegates are just as fucking bad. Trump got fucked already, just no journalist wants to put the GOP on blast for it and tally up the optional delegates missed.

I knew something was wrong when I totaled up Trump's states won versus previous election cycles. It didn't add up.

He's not getting fucked out of anything the rules in each states nomination process are different. Some states have what's called "unbound delegates" and can vote for whoever they want to at the convention. Trump is lazy and didn't take the time to learn each states rules. Trump has no one to blame except himself and his staff. MOST of the delegates are BOUND to whoever the voters chose and at the convention they must vote for whoever they are bound to on the 1st ballot. If no candidate reaches 1237 on the 1st ballot they can vote for another candidate depending on how many ballots they are bound for. Lincoln was selected on like the 6th ballot even though he only had 22% of the delegates pre convention William Seward was far out in front but couldn't wrangle enuff delegates at the convention to win. No cheating just following the rules.

AzzarTheGod

04-12-2016, 06:23 PM

He's not getting fucked out of anything the rules in each states nomination process are different. Some states have what's called "unbound delegates" and can vote for whoever they want to at the convention. Trump is lazy and didn't take the time to learn each states rules. Trump has no one to blame except himself and his staff. MOST of the delegates are BOUND to whoever the voters chose and at the convention they must vote for whoever they are bound to on the 1st ballot. If no candidate reaches 1237 on the 1st ballot they can vote for another candidate depending on how many ballots they are bound for. Lincoln was selected on like the 6th ballot even though he only had 22% of the delegates pre convention William Seward was far out in front but couldn't wrangle enuff delegates at the convention to win. No cheating just following the rules.

You realize a nominee is usually called by now with the delegates?

Trump isn't falling short because of Ted Cruz's success, its because of unbound delegates and abstain votes by delegates.

You are trying to say that Trump not getting these unbound delegates is some kind of legitimate function of the system. When in reality, we have never NOT had a nominee called by May/June.

The optional delegates are fucking him. Period. "rules and system" my ass, they didn't "rule and system" for George W Bush, or GHWB, or anyone in the last few decades. Its almost May, no nominee? That's a fuck job by the system.

Villide

04-12-2016, 06:48 PM

You realize a nominee is usually called by now with the delegates?

Trump isn't falling short because of Ted Cruz's success, its because of unbound delegates and abstain votes by delegates.

You are trying to say that Trump not getting these unbound delegates is some kind of legitimate function of the system. When in reality, we have never NOT had a nominee called by May/June.

The optional delegates are fucking him. Period. "rules and system" my ass, they didn't "rule and system" for George W Bush, or GHWB, or anyone in the last few decades. Its almost May, no nominee? That's a fuck job by the system.
I kind of see both sides of this. He's getting fucked by the Republican Party, but the Republican Party is a self-preserving entity that knows he's a down-ticket boat anchor in the general. And they are acting accordingly.

Fun as hell to watch, though. If Trump gets within spitting distance of the 1,237, that convention's going to be mandatory viewing. I should probably schedule some vacation time now.

Blitzers

04-12-2016, 07:35 PM

You realize a nominee is usually called by now with the delegates?

Trump isn't falling short because of Ted Cruz's success, its because of unbound delegates and abstain votes by delegates.

You are trying to say that Trump not getting these unbound delegates is some kind of legitimate function of the system. When in reality, we have never NOT had a nominee called by May/June.

The optional delegates are fucking him. Period. "rules and system" my ass, they didn't "rule and system" for George W Bush, or GHWB, or anyone in the last few decades. Its almost May, no nominee? That's a fuck job by the system.

Your wrong... Since the inception of the Republican Party there has been 10 contested conventions where the delegate leader didn't win the nominee on the 1st ballot. 1976 was the last one, Ford didn't have enough delegates and that went to convention. 1948 same thing and so on. You can view the results here:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Republican_National_Conventions

Raev

04-12-2016, 07:39 PM

I kind of see both sides of this. He's getting fucked by the Republican Party, but the Republican Party is a self-preserving entity that knows he's a down-ticket boat anchor in the general.

Trump clearly has a better chance to win against Hillary than Cruz, but there is a chance he might slow down the current pillaging of America by our bankers, which is why they are doing everything they can to stop him.

Blitzers

04-12-2016, 07:40 PM

Also contested conventions ARE GOOD. It means the power brokers in the party are losing POWER. Whether or not you like Cruz is irrelevant, he is not an establishment politician despite what FIXED NEWS says. Cruz was anti-establishment while Trump was still writing checks to clinton. If you actually looked into the truth maybe you'd figure that out but Trump voters can't seem to find the truth let alone grasp it.

Daywolf

04-12-2016, 11:22 PM

1. No Election... WRONG

http://i.imgur.com/rM09nXZ.gif

Villide

04-13-2016, 12:21 PM

Trump clearly has a better chance to win against Hillary than Cruz, but there is a chance he might slow down the current pillaging of America by our bankers, which is why they are doing everything they can to stop him.
Either of them would get smoked, Trump probably by considerably more. Their unfavorable ratings are way too high.

Hillary getting indicted - that's the only scenario I see either of these guys winning the election. Or they go Kasich or some other candidate at the Republican convention.

Raev

04-13-2016, 01:31 PM

Either of them would get smoked, Trump probably by considerably more. Their unfavorable ratings are way too high.

Polls do not support your opinion.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/poll-voters-split-between-clinton-trump-hypothetical-november-matchup-n554306

To be fair Cruz is getting more support than I thought, but I think Trump would be actually favored against Hillary as he frequently outperforms his poll numbers and would probably soften some of his more outrageous positions for the general election.

Trollhide

04-13-2016, 02:00 PM

http://i67.tinypic.com/zjj6f8.jpg

Pokesan

04-13-2016, 02:13 PM

Shaft, is it? Cruz has a lot to say about shafts.

Slimey Ted argued against Constitutionality of dildos, masturbation. (http://theweek.com/speedreads/618186/ted-cruz-once-argued-ban-sex-toys-college-roommate-just-revealed-why-that-hypocritical)

Back in 2004, Ted Cruz's solicitor general office fought to defend a ruling in Texas that found selling sex toys was not protected by the Constitution. In his brief, Cruz's office defended the obscenity law by saying that "any alleged right associated with obscene devices" is not "deeply rooted in the nation's history and traditions."

Then came the real whammy. The brief went even further, asserting that, "There is no substantive-due-process right to stimulate one's genitals for non-medical purposes unrelated to procreation or outside of an interpersonal relationship." In other words, as Mother Jones explains, Cruz effectively argued that "the pursuit of such happiness had no constitutional standing."

Despite such a strong Christian stance, his former roommate easily refutes Ted's self-professed piety. Lyin' Ted lies again. Sad!

http://i.imgur.com/3iGzBsd.png

Villide

04-13-2016, 02:17 PM

Polls do not support your opinion.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/poll-voters-split-between-clinton-trump-hypothetical-november-matchup-n554306

To be fair Cruz is getting more support than I thought, but I think Trump would be actually favored against Hillary as he frequently outperforms his poll numbers and would probably soften some of his more outrageous positions for the general election.
No chance. Trump is doom for the Republican Party. Cruz is pretty hateable as well, but at least Republicans would see him as an actual conservative choice.

RealClearPolitics' polling averages show Trump as the worst matchup of the three (at this point):

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_presidential_race.html

maskedmelon

04-13-2016, 02:29 PM

http://i67.tinypic.com/zjj6f8.jpg

imgur is super slick and quick. I was hesitant, but have fully opened to it now.

iruinedyourday

04-13-2016, 02:31 PM

last time I checked, the only thing the republican party was uniting for WAS trump lmao

Trollhide

04-13-2016, 02:33 PM

imgur is super slick and quick. I was hesitant, but have fully opened to it now.
Agreed but it is blocked on the network I'm on for the next few months :(

iruinedyourday

04-13-2016, 02:42 PM

Pokesan

04-13-2016, 02:56 PM

how come the repubs couldn't find literatly 1 person that wasn't unanimously hated by everyone lmao Thats how fucking fail that party is now, its so fucking disgusting that there is literatly zero folks in it that arnt completely repulsive in one way or another.

the ugliness you see in the words and actions of republican politicians comes from the hearts of the republican base :)

maskedmelon

04-13-2016, 03:06 PM

I am just thankful we have nasty people to look at so that we are better able to recognize and revel in our own piety.

Uuruk

04-13-2016, 03:24 PM

the ugliness you see in the words and actions of republican politicians comes from the hearts of the republican base :)

you were literally posting within 15 minutes of your ban being lifted. You are a fucking loser.

http://i.imgur.com/noGBTIX.png

maskedmelon

04-13-2016, 03:28 PM

Do you honestly believe he hasn't been posting all along?

Pokesan

04-13-2016, 03:33 PM

are you the posting police

am i being detained

Uuruk

04-13-2016, 03:34 PM

are you the posting police

am i being detained

no i'm the faggot police and you are under arrest.

Spyder73

04-13-2016, 03:41 PM

Do you honestly believe he hasn't been posting all along?

An unfortunate truth - I believe him to be Sodor at this point

no i'm the faggot police and you are under arrest.

Pras Uuruk - savior of the boards

Pokesan

04-13-2016, 03:50 PM

no i'm the faggot police and you are under arrest.

put the cuffs on tight officer handsome ;)

Spyder73

04-13-2016, 03:52 PM

put the cuffs on tight officer handsome ;)

Well played, and welcome back f@ggot

iruinedyourday

04-13-2016, 03:54 PM

no i'm the faggot police and you are under arrest.

:D:D:D

Daywolf

04-13-2016, 04:15 PM

http://i67.tinypic.com/zjj6f8.jpg
ah but it's not united, not united at all. Sure the establishment is united, that pic is correct there, but the gop voters are split pretty severely. Even McCains' "Hobbits (https://youtu.be/d7GfPEtyQsE)" are split with around half the tea party in one camp and the rest in the other, including TP founders split (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/11/exclusive-tea-party-founder-an-open-letter-to-ted-cruz/). As for evangelicals, Ted has an edge if christian faith groups are broken down into groups, singling out just "evangelicals", but overall Donald has the Christian faith groups (http://www.christianitytoday.com/gleanings/2016/february/8-charts-evangelicals-vote-donald-trump-super-tuesday.html) among those of which vote for republicans. Barna often gets it right, though often has issues differentiating between cell groups and traditional "practicing" attendance groups.

Now this whole whack job on the Colorado election is not simply a result of Donald, though the rule is new, but it originates with Ron Paul and the last election (and likely in consideration of the one before). It seems a measure to control dissidence within the party, a counter measure against especially tea party and religious groups as shown above, of which many supported Ron or threatened to, and currently support Donald. Though Ron had no solid support to really propel him into the running, the idea was there, and the idea frightened the establishment so they rewrote the rules at the conclusion of the last election.

And that dissidence did rise, as too many of those elected (giving them the house and senate) more or less said 'let them eat cake' once they were in. The voters put them in on the issues to resolve as they ran on, and they only went along with Obama and outraged many of the voters that put them there (and not just reps). And that's right, Colorado wasn't about Ted, not even Ron or Donald, it's about them, to hold power, and in the end they will turn those rules in on Ted and they will both be out.

The question is if they will concede, that being if they are unable to cause enough division to skirt under the radar and get the win for their loss (win or lose they retain power, unless they lose control). But it may be at least some of them are starting to waver, as Randy Evans said recently that Donald only needs 1100 delegates (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/rnc-member-donald-trump-can-win-with-1100-delegates/article/2588378) to win his prediction anyway, who is an RNC member. This being after Paul Ryan saying he will not run.

I think in part, his comment is maybe because the prospect of a bait and switch at a brokered convention to someone else has grown so toxic, no one else wants it, and Ryan was their greatest hope for that. Though I still have my eye on Romney, as he is still my suspicion for some bait and switch, as Romney has less to lose in such a divided and toxic environment. And really, so toxic I have doubts Ted could prevail in uniting voters once all is said and done if he doesn't cleanly win here ...which seems very unlikely ... almost hilariously so.

iruinedyourday

04-13-2016, 04:19 PM

22 1 sentence posts in a row then DAYWOLFED

Daywolf

04-13-2016, 04:36 PM

22 1 sentence posts in a row then DAYWOLFED
Yep, content > post count ;)
I could have included more... hah
I was tempted to break down more groups outside of the ones mentioned, but meh game forum has enough paragraphs (which I usually try to keep to 3 or less here) and I don't repost elsewhere so would be a waste. But there is enough prospective info from the links for personal background research ...not that you would ;)

Ahldagor

04-13-2016, 05:00 PM

ah but it's not united, not united at all. Sure the establishment is united, that pic is correct there, but the gop voters are split pretty severely. Even McCains' "Hobbits (https://youtu.be/d7GfPEtyQsE)" are split with around half the tea party in one camp and the rest in the other, including TP founders split (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/11/exclusive-tea-party-founder-an-open-letter-to-ted-cruz/). As for evangelicals, Ted has an edge if christian faith groups are broken down into groups, singling out just "evangelicals", but overall Donald has the Christian faith groups (http://www.christianitytoday.com/gleanings/2016/february/8-charts-evangelicals-vote-donald-trump-super-tuesday.html) among those of which vote for republicans. Barna often gets it right, though often has issues differentiating between cell groups and traditional "practicing" attendance groups.

Now this whole whack job on the Colorado election is not simply a result of Donald, though the rule is new, but it originates with Ron Paul and the last election (and likely in consideration of the one before). It seems a measure to control dissidence within the party, a counter measure against especially tea party and religious groups as shown above, of which many supported Ron or threatened to, and currently support Donald. Though Ron had no solid support to really propel him into the running, the idea was there, and the idea frightened the establishment so they rewrote the rules at the conclusion of the last election.

And that dissidence did rise, as too many of those elected (giving them the house and senate) more or less said 'let them eat cake' once they were in. The voters put them in on the issues to resolve as they ran on, and they only went along with Obama and outraged many of the voters that put them there (and not just reps). And that's right, Colorado wasn't about Ted, not even Ron or Donald, it's about them, to hold power, and in the end they will turn those rules in on Ted and they will both be out.

The question is if they will concede, that being if they are unable to cause enough division to skirt under the radar and get the win for their loss (win or lose they retain power, unless they lose control). But it may be at least some of them are starting to waver, as Randy Evans said recently that Donald only needs 1100 delegates (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/rnc-member-donald-trump-can-win-with-1100-delegates/article/2588378) to win his prediction anyway, who is an RNC member. This being after Paul Ryan saying he will not run.

I think in part, his comment is maybe because the prospect of a bait and switch at a brokered convention to someone else has grown so toxic, no one else wants it, and Ryan was their greatest hope for that. Though I still have my eye on Romney, as he is still my suspicion for some bait and switch, as Romney has less to lose in such a divided and toxic environment. And really, so toxic I have doubts Ted could prevail in uniting voters once all is said and done if he doesn't cleanly win here ...which seems very unlikely ... almost hilariously so.

Well said and the brokered convention the gop will likely have could cripple the party worse than the 68 democratic one did for the dems. A lot of parallels to the 68 and 72 nominations for both parties are happening. Consider Sanders's run like McGovern's.

iruinedyourday

04-13-2016, 05:10 PM

Yep, content > post count ;)
I could have included more... hah
I was tempted to break down more groups outside of the ones mentioned, but meh game forum has enough paragraphs (which I usually try to keep to 3 or less here) and I don't repost elsewhere so would be a waste. But there is enough prospective info from the links for personal background research ...not that you would ;)

Im not sure your perception of your forum skills is on par with others perceptions.

http://i.imgur.com/D5uf5ms.jpg

Daywolf

04-13-2016, 05:18 PM

Im not sure your perception of your forum skills is on par with others perceptions.[/IMG]
If someone disagrees with me, I'm doing it right.
Thanks :)

Sidelle

04-13-2016, 06:34 PM

I'm sad that this never became a thing during this most memorable presidential race ever.

http://i.imgur.com/zBNHfu0l.jpg

iruinedyourday

04-13-2016, 06:50 PM

http://i.imgur.com/L03dtBj.png

Swish

04-13-2016, 07:00 PM

I don't know what that "H" with the arrow is, but I hope someone was shot for making it.

Pokesan

04-13-2016, 07:05 PM

bad chart but leftists always eat each other anyway

iruinedyourday

04-13-2016, 07:27 PM

I don't know what that "H" with the arrow is, but I hope someone was shot for making it.

The arrow represents her moving farther and father to the RIGHT...

Daywolf

04-13-2016, 09:49 PM

http://i.imgur.com/L03dtBj.png
lol? low information voter chart? Hillary is just 0bama's 3rd term, and they are all stacked up with Bernie, mounted on a nanocraft and shot by a laser to the left as far as earth is to Alpha Centauri.

The only way someone could dream up that chart is by eating the latest election talking point spin/posturing while ignoring their actual actions over the past years, ...and as the chart doodler does some really heavy psychedelics :o

Donald's a neocon? You should prolly look into wikipedia or someplace that explains what a neocon is. That would have been the first hint the chart is a wee bit off hehe. Neocons hate his guts. Above all. Don't you get it yet? Part of teh reason I'm PO'd at Cruz is because he sucked up to the neocons, such as the Bush family etc. Cruz was suppose to bring balance to the farce! Now he's just a tool fo the dark lard of teh shith.

btw Bernie is in trouble now, RNC delegates are campaigning for Hillary, trying to help her get the nomination. https://youtu.be/j8RVhEU_SaI

iruinedyourday

04-13-2016, 10:31 PM

daywolf you are seriously a fucking idiot man im sorry but got dayum u fucking are full blown retarded

AzzarTheGod

04-14-2016, 01:42 AM

bad chart but leftists always eat each other anyway

big problem with this chart.

the REAL Trump, the actual elected President should be on top of Obama.

Candidate Trump is a relatively recent phenomenon. Oh and Bloomberg is as much of a bitch as Biden.

Daywolf

04-14-2016, 02:14 AM

big problem with this chart.

the REAL Trump, the actual elected President should be on top of Obama.

Candidate Trump is a relatively recent phenomenon. Oh and Bloomberg is as much of a bitch as Biden.
eh... I don't think so. 0bama dumped the biggest crown jewel of socialism onto us, socialized health care. I'm sorry but that makes him really-really left in my book, especially when most of America didn't want it. Donald plans to take it out, replace it with an optional insurance program, which is definitely not socialism. I don't care if they say it's ok with the constitution, socialized healthcare is not ok and their lawyers and judges can shove it.

He may be relatively new to running for office, but he was speaking politics before 0bama was elected. I know I posted a vid here last week of Donald criticizing Bush, the current president at the time (I think before 0bama was even a senator), regarding his nation building garbage in Iraq and wmd's etc. He's not a neocon, he's not an 0bama clone, just a dude that has been fed up with this crap for a long time.

People say that because he gave money to dems, but he as well did to the reps, if you remember his comeback to Mitts recent attack and Donald telling everyone Mitt was on his knees when he gave him money for his campaign. He also contributed to McCains run. He just does stuff for people, it makes his business look good, yet while he has criticized the Bush's. lol sounds a lot like most politicians today, always after favors and working on deals etc. some even with goldman sachs grr.

AzzarTheGod

04-14-2016, 02:16 AM

Heh I'm sure Donald "plans" to do a lot of things...

Just like Obama's campaign promises, fulfilling maybe 1? of them...

We'll see pal, I don't see him getting the nomination unless he can get within spitting distance under the current corrupt system of optional delegates.

Armed protestors are visiting delegates in Colorado? I heard trying to keep them honest and force their vote back to Trump where it belongs. If these tactics are successful in fixing the broken system he might have a chance at getting the nom. We'll need some armed protestors in NY as well I am guessing...

Daywolf

04-14-2016, 03:03 AM

Heh I'm sure Donald "plans" to do a lot of things...

Just like Obama's campaign promises, fulfilling maybe 1? of them...
I don't see how you can compare them that way. 0bama was a nobody 1 term senator before running for president ... and a good deal of that time was preparing for his run for presented. He was absolutely nobody, nobody at all, as far as the public eye. He was a lecturer at Chicago law school.

I don't see it the same, Donald is well known for decades, good and bad. Compare him to Bill Gates, where you think Bill Gates falls on the issues? Gates is psycho left, like world control crap. He's a globalist, pushing population control issues, big government, global warming (all related). The guy is about as nuts as Al Gore, he just doesn't profile himself publicly like that but all his actions and talking points are there. but mentioning them as billionaires, in the public eye, politically active be it directly or indirectly, as a comparison point.

Now Ted. Again, short time in the senate. He showed more activity than 0bama as a senator, but still didn't get much done, not much support, and didn't really put much time into leadership roles. Before this he was an unknown too, but not entirely as he was a good lawyer (if there is such a thing). The man can out study and out think others, but still not a point of real leadership, not on any large scale.

Now while Donald hasn't held any seat (not that the others really did for long), he has been somewhat vocal about politics in the public eye, long before Ted or 0bama were around. Meanwhile he did business on a large scale, dealing with all the intricacies with business in a leadership position. Also interacting with politicians and organizations. He's a wheel greaser, he's done things as much if not more than the other have. He's also free from banks and Bush's, makes it all the better. The guy has credibility, having done the job, coming under budget and before the dead-line.

So back to the wrap-up, I don't see how he is comparable to 0bama, he had virtually no record of anything, while Donald does. 0bama never even had any real-world experience, spent his life in school, ran for the senate to springboard to president, played golf. Oh, and screwed up the country worse than friggen Carter. If anything, 0bama and Ted are more alike.

iruinedyourday

04-14-2016, 03:40 AM

0cd much?

AzzarTheGod

04-14-2016, 03:54 AM

r u?

Daywolf

04-14-2016, 03:56 AM

0cd much?
Only when I exceed 50 awpm or flip on my guitar amp.
I will try to use small-er words for you in the fu-ture.

Blitzers

04-14-2016, 06:28 AM

I don't see how you can compare them that way. 0bama was a nobody 1 term senator before running for president ... and a good deal of that time was preparing for his run for presented. He was absolutely nobody, nobody at all, as far as the public eye. He was a lecturer at Chicago law school.

I don't see it the same, Donald is well known for decades, good and bad. Compare him to Bill Gates, where you think Bill Gates falls on the issues? Gates is psycho left, like world control crap. He's a globalist, pushing population control issues, big government, global warming (all related). The guy is about as nuts as Al Gore, he just doesn't profile himself publicly like that but all his actions and talking points are there. but mentioning them as billionaires, in the public eye, politically active be it directly or indirectly, as a comparison point.

Now Ted. Again, short time in the senate. He showed more activity than 0bama as a senator, but still didn't get much done, not much support, and didn't really put much time into leadership roles. Before this he was an unknown too, but not entirely as he was a good lawyer (if there is such a thing). The man can out study and out think others, but still not a point of real leadership, not on any large scale.

Now while Donald hasn't held any seat (not that the others really did for long), he has been somewhat vocal about politics in the public eye, long before Ted or 0bama were around. Meanwhile he did business on a large scale, dealing with all the intricacies with business in a leadership position. Also interacting with politicians and organizations. He's a wheel greaser, he's done things as much if not more than the other have. He's also free from banks and Bush's, makes it all the better. The guy has credibility, having done the job, coming under budget and before the dead-line.

So back to the wrap-up, I don't see how he is comparable to 0bama, he had virtually no record of anything, while Donald does. 0bama never even had any real-world experience, spent his life in school, ran for the senate to springboard to president, played golf. Oh, and screwed up the country worse than friggen Carter. If anything, 0bama and Ted are more alike.

Donald whines more then a school girl on the rag, much like Obama.

stressl

04-14-2016, 06:53 AM

http://i.imgur.com/L03dtBj.png

hillary is over there on the far right, isn't she?

Pokesan

04-14-2016, 11:13 AM

hillary is over there on the far right, isn't she?

don't bother trying to make sense of it, it's bernie bro garbage

maskedmelon

04-14-2016, 11:35 AM

It doesn't matter where they are, they serve the same master. They are each a part of the great barbed phallus of authority aimed squarely at the public anus of our purpose-starved society.

Nibblewitz

04-14-2016, 11:37 AM

Fractured party is fractured. Shit platform is also shit.

Daywolf

04-14-2016, 02:40 PM

Donald whines more then a school girl on the rag, much like Obama.

"But here's the thing: Democratic legitimacy is not just about following the rules as written. It's about having a set of rules designed to produce a result in line with voter preferences. In some states, the Republican nominating rules are designed to ignore the will of the voters.

Trump is right: These states' rules are a scam, and saying so is not whining."
http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-gop-nomination-odds-right-2016-4

And then it goes on to read:

"Take Colorado, for example. Voters in Colorado didn't get to vote in a primary or a caucus because the state's Republican Party executive committee decided last summer not to hold any presidential preference vote. Instead, voters had to gather at far-flung, time-consuming conventions to choose individual delegates.

Why wasn't there a caucus with a presidential vote as Colorado had held in previous years? Because this time the RNC had ordered states to bind their delegates to actually vote in line with voters' presidential preference. Colorado Republicans didn't want to do that, so they got rid of the presidential vote."

And you say they voted for delegates :rolleyes: but really only the activists with no life or took vacation time to go to the convention to vote etc. And that's just in that state, Pennsylvania just got a list of delegate names, and no idea of their position, they could have been Hillary supporters for all they knew. And there are other states struggling within this con game too.

And Cruz supports this garbage, he has no real character. He should leave politics and go back to arguing lawyer stuff, of which for most lawyers is just a job. Cruz has shown himself just part of the problem the reps have been having, and the nation. This is the kind of stuff Cruz is suppose to be fighting against, and just shows what kind of person he is by not doing so. I think I'd even vote for Kasich before Cruz, but here I'll say it at this point that I won't vote for either of them. They are both scumbags.

That's a good article, well worth a read for those that are into that stuff.

Daywolf

04-15-2016, 11:09 PM

4 time Colorado delegate speaks out about the cheating (https://youtu.be/ejKwBPoNhyE?t=113). Left Rep party, no longer a stooge :D

Blitzers

04-16-2016, 05:56 PM

iruinedyourday

04-16-2016, 06:04 PM

4 time Colorado delegate speaks out about the cheating (https://youtu.be/ejKwBPoNhyE?t=113). Left Rep party, no longer a stooge :D

look at all those cab drivers.

Daywolf

04-16-2016, 06:31 PM

Trump bribes politicians so I guess we're even now. Funny when trump exploits bankruptcy law, tax loopholes, and outright investment fraud it's called good business deals, but when someone else beats Trump he whines like a little bitch. Trump is a lil bitch, can't wait til Hillary landslides him and you pussies have to STFU.
What [outright investment fraud] are you speaking of?

[Trump University?] It's a frivolous lawsuit. The majority of students rated the program as excellent, and the BBB gave it an A rating. It seems to be just another matter of slander for political gains by the establishment and your neocon friends which seem to sink to great lows to retain their power over us plebs (as they view and treat us).

As for [bribing politicians] (or personal lobbying), Donald is small change, a matter of personal favors which is common in most walks of life. What you should be concerned with is corporatism. Corporations and banks (like the big bank Ted is beholden to in regards to his career start) that seek to drive out business and/or take over such smaller businesses to grow even more powerful. These are the ones that buy politicians and the like, so to guide their administrations for the benefit of corporate empowerment. Both parties pander to this and it needs to stop!

Daywolf

04-16-2016, 06:47 PM

look at all those cab drivers.
Don't worry, Ted's neocon love for carpet bombings will remedy that problem if he gets elected. You'll breath a sigh of relief once Ted carpet bombs ISIS in America and wipes out half the nation while you watch from your refuge in Europe or South America. The remaining survivors will be easily exterminated by automated drones controlled by Skynet.

yes I can be melodramatic too.
ps sorry for the heavy use of syllables.

Blitzers

04-16-2016, 08:50 PM

What [outright investment fraud] are you speaking of?

[Trump University?] It's a frivolous lawsuit. The majority of students rated the program as excellent, and the BBB gave it an A rating. It seems to be just another matter of slander for political gains by the establishment and your neocon friends which seem to sink to great lows to retain their power over us plebs (as they view and treat us).

As for [bribing politicians] (or personal lobbying), Donald is small change, a matter of personal favors which is common in most walks of life. What you should be concerned with is corporatism. Corporations and banks (like the big bank Ted is beholden to in regards to his career start) that seek to drive out business and/or take over such smaller businesses to grow even more powerful. These are the ones that buy politicians and the like, so to guide their administrations for the benefit of corporate empowerment. Both parties pander to this and it needs to stop!

Daywolf the spinmaster, you are the ultimate fraud.

Daywolf

04-16-2016, 08:56 PM

Daywolf the spinmaster, you are the ultimate fraud. ^has only slander

Blitzers

04-16-2016, 09:06 PM

^has only slander

ROFL, you slander yourself dumbass.

Daywolf

04-16-2016, 09:44 PM

ROFL, you slander yourself dumbass.
^sticks to his empty slanders and insults to make his case. Man up, Blitzers.

Of course if he tries to make an actual case, one that just follows feel feels logic as his norm, I'll just turn it into dust once again. After all, an advocate for disenfranchising the voters has no real intent towards healthy discussion and/or debate, only jackboot tactics to crush perceived insolent insurrections to the status quo.

Blitzers

04-16-2016, 10:26 PM

^sticks to his empty slanders and insults to make his case. Man up, Blitzer.

No point in arguing with you, you ignore truth and logic. You're like a child who can't stop running his mouth, too busy talking and not enough listening. I refuse to argue with a fool like yourself.

Pokesan

04-16-2016, 10:37 PM

daywolf please stop dunking so hard on blitzers all the time it's getting kinda sad

Daywolf

04-16-2016, 10:44 PM

No point in arguing with you, you ignore truth and logic. You're like a child who can't stop running his mouth, too busy talking and not enough listening. I refuse to argue with a fool like yourself.
Listen to what?? You haven't tried to make a case, only trolled. You throw out half-assed accusations with nothing backing it up. And if people question your presumed higher moral judgement you throw a shitfit and start calling people names :rolleyes:

You offer nothing, dude, that's why I often keep saying "is that all you have"? Even iryd can be more fun to debate sometimes, at least she can give me something to research. Every time I stick one of your half-thought out quotes into google I keep getting the glenn beck site lol and I'm serious.

oh yawn.

daywolf please stop dunking so hard on blitzers all the time it's getting kinda sad
Dude, with the shortage of conserv/semi-conserv posters due to recent bans, you'll need to take a number and wait in line ;)
And sadly, I think Blitz is the only neocon in the forum we can all have fun with :D

Blitzers

04-18-2016, 04:55 AM

Listen to what?? You haven't tried to make a case, only trolled. You throw out half-assed accusations with nothing backing it up. And if people question your presumed higher moral judgement you throw a shitfit and start calling people names :rolleyes:

You offer nothing, dude, that's why I often keep saying "is that all you have"? Even iryd can be more fun to debate sometimes, at least she can give me something to research. Every time I stick one of your half-thought out quotes into google I keep getting the glenn beck site lol and I'm serious.

oh yawn.

Dude, with the shortage of conserv/semi-conserv posters due to recent bans, you'll need to take a number and wait in line ;)
And sadly, I think Blitz is the only neocon in the forum we can all have fun with :D

Daywolf championing left wing tactics since 2010

Daywolf

04-18-2016, 06:15 AM

Daywolf championing left wing tactics since 2010
Ríííiight comrade Blitzers. btw found out how the Clinton machine is going to remove your TPP supporting big bank front man. His mother, when he was born, had to denounce her US citizenship as it was illegal in Canada at the time to be a dual citizen. So hows that voterless vote goin for ya, Comrade?

Blitzers

04-18-2016, 08:18 AM

Ríííiight comrade Blitzers. btw found out how the Clinton machine is going to remove your TPP supporting big bank front man. His mother, when he was born, had to denounce her US citizenship as it was illegal in Canada at the time to be a dual citizen. So hows that voterless vote goin for ya, Comrade?

Daywolf, I choose not to debate, litigate, argue issues with you because you lack the self awareness that YOU are reinforcing the LEFT's view toward conservative ideals. The reason your LAPDOG Pokesan applauds your antics is because he knows that you have sacrificed your PRINCIPLES & VALUES by supporting Trump. Pokesan knows youre the weak minded "conservative" he can exploit to make all conservatives look like phonies. Your support of Trump discredits your "so called" conservative ideals. Your diatribes only gain the favor of worm tongue lefties like Pokesan, and your false information provides them kindling for your own demise. Pokesan hates me because I don't waiver, my conservativism is real and grounded in Principled ideals.

The LEFT WING scholars know what I say to be true;
http://robertreich.org/post/139677457615

Every informed conservative in America knows that Trump is NO REAGAN and to constantly put forth a "talking point" to the contrary is LUDACRIS.

So I choose to no longer engage with you Daywolf, Trump's small hands have been permanently implanted deep in your rectum an he's using your mouth as his puppet.

Good Day Sir

"I have neither the time or inclination."

Pokesan

04-18-2016, 11:00 AM

The fiendish plot is revealed!

It's all true - discrediting Blitzers on the P99 Off Topic forum was merely step 1 in my grand scheme to DESTROY American Conservatism.

Patriam1066

04-18-2016, 05:24 PM

While you're editing Blitzers, try changing LUDACRIS, a rapper, to ludicrous, the word you're looking for. A helpful video to tell the difference:
http://youtu.be/ux2npli7uTA

Baler

04-18-2016, 05:44 PM

I just want to say that Cruz is a socialist and communist who want to raise taxs. For worse reasons then any of the others.

Some people say obama was a socialist. But this guy ted,. He's the real deal when it comes to wanting government to run everything.

ABC - Anyone but clinton

Xaanka

04-18-2016, 05:51 PM

i freakin LOVE talking about politics

Daywolf

04-18-2016, 07:47 PM

So I choose to no longer engage with you Daywolf, Trump's small hands have been permanently implanted deep in your rectum an he's using your mouth as his puppet.

Good Day Sir

"I have neither the time or inclination."
ad hominem, straw man (mention of reagen), and coarse childish insults. All you have? And somehow this you think shows the exceptionalism of conservatism? Quite honestly it reminds me of some of the pro-Bernie protesters on the NY streets over the weekend. Not all of them (I watched hours of video), some would engage in dialog, but others just had their mouths shut as they beat drums and blew whistles, anything but discussion and best effort to take away others 1st amendment rights.

The patriots were out there, man, fighting the good fight. Even a 12yo boy got spat on, at which point the pro-Trump demonstrators performed a citizens arrest on the monster. A 12yo boy spit on, geez, by anti-Trump demonstrators.

In my case though, I do actually listen to what Cruz supporters say. And not just supporters, but national talk radio hosts, I don't switch them off just because they ...well have it wrong at this point. After all, I was split between Donald and Ted months ago (I liked Rand the best, the conservatarian, have followed his work for years), and no real reason to choose one over the other as I liked them both. But that has changed. And not by way of feel-feels stuff, that's so not me, I like to research and investigate all sides.

Really, you show no dialog, yet shout everyone else down who disagrees with your insolent insults. But I guess you are in the right camp, since Cruz actually originally started all the mud slinging which seems to have turned into anything but dialog. Now if I were a big banker intent on taking over the world, I suppose I too would buy out Cruz and use him to bring war between the conservatives and those anywhere around them. I mean it would seem a good plan to do so in case someone wanted to wreck my plans of world domination such as in the case of Donald. You seem to think you know, but you don't it seems. That's what I'd be counting on.

I just want to say that Cruz is a socialist and communist who want to raise taxs. For worse reasons then any of the others.

Some people say obama was a socialist. But this guy ted,. He's the real deal when it comes to wanting government to run everything.
0bama... I'm pretty convinced he's really a nothing. Have been convinced of it for a long time. 0bama = 0, because he is nothing but a frontman for the bankers. I mean he may have his activism stance that he believes in, the eternal victim, or as a way to get noticed, but politically he just does what he's told, just like Bush did.

And in fact once in he supported every bush policy from the patriot act to staying in the wars all of which he campaigned against. After all, 0bama also ran in part on being against the lobbyists, yet once he got in he flooded positions with the banking lobbyists (20), more than any other president has done. He didn't like the illegal wire taps, but once in he was all a-okay with it and even ramped up the programs and targeted even more Americans. Even used the IRS to target certain groups, but fared way better than what happened when Nixon did the same thing to a lesser extent. Most Americans are deeply fooled, thinking it's red against blue, while green is the real power fooling the masses. Then Hillary is no different, so much on her too.

Baler

04-18-2016, 09:42 PM

thanks wolf man for supporting me.
Do we really need a vagina for president?

honestly,... a twat?

iruinedyourday

04-18-2016, 09:50 PM

man i litearally cannot stand what has happened in the dem party. I will stop at nothing to make sure it is obliterated if we dont win NY

Lune

04-18-2016, 10:05 PM

I am beginning to realize nobody in America really even knows what socialism is... or even anything about their own society and history.

Where do they think things like 40 hour work weeks came from? Workplace safety regulations? Compensation for injured workers? Minimum wage? Pensions(whch pretty much are no more in the private sector)? Maternity leave? Mandatory vacation, sick leave, breaks? Liberals and socialists fought hard for those things. Nevermind programs like Medicare that are so fucking popular that any politician who tries to touch it explodes on contact with the hordes of old people who love to vote. Pretty much only libertarians are idiotic enough to oppose something like Medicare on ideological grounds (the way we run it is a different story)

Now it's just a bunch of brainwashed temporarily embarrassed millionaires who think being sycophantic toward business is the only way to keep the economy from exploding.

iruinedyourday

04-18-2016, 10:11 PM

dude democrats know nothing... republicans know nothing...

Its finally becoming obvious that the way we've treated education for the last 40 years is paying off.

iruinedyourday

04-18-2016, 10:13 PM

Also:

http://i.imgur.com/z4FetSK.png

barrettdc1

04-18-2016, 11:07 PM

Also:

http://i.imgur.com/z4FetSK.png

u on kronos dawg?

Daywolf

04-18-2016, 11:14 PM

I am beginning to realize nobody in America really even knows what socialism is... Sure, it's about a central banking system and turning you into a slave of the global technocrats.. at least the slaves they don't eliminate through democide which is a massive number. Means to an ends.

As for minimum wage, who works for minimum wage? sheesh. Every job I've had was much above any gov set minimum, and I always increased my wage by working hard and learning as much I could about what was going on around me, even going to school while I worked. And I use to have awesome health care with that, and a 401k, all gone now :( along with those technical jobs.

You argue over what flavor of tyranny you prefer to savor. You act like Bush wasn't the same and headed in the same direction as the others; the new boss same as the old boss.

But be it as it may, here is your expected reply, Lune: (I like quotes) :)

Garry Kasparov (https://www.facebook.com/GKKasparov/posts/10154026469573307) (the #1 chess master in history)
I'm enjoying the irony of American Sanders supporters lecturing me, a former Soviet citizen, on the glories of Socialism and what it really means! Socialism sounds great in speech soundbites and on Facebook, but please keep it there. In practice, it corrodes not only the economy but the human spirit itself, and the ambition and achievement that made modern capitalism possible and brought billions of people out of poverty. Talking about Socialism is a huge luxury, a luxury that was paid for by the successes of capitalism. Income inequality is a huge problem, absolutely. But the idea that the solution is more government, more regulation, more debt, and less risk is dangerously absurd.
And here is his comment on what he said: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/03/10/garry-kasparov-hey-bernie-don-t-lecture-me-about-socialism-i-lived-through-it.html

Xaanka

04-18-2016, 11:21 PM

i freakin LOVE talking about politics

maskedmelon

04-18-2016, 11:55 PM

dude democrats know nothing... republicans know nothing...

Its finally becoming obvious that the way we've treated education for the last 40 years is paying off.

My sentiments EXACTLY.

AzzarTheGod

04-19-2016, 02:24 AM

yo xaanka u here wat up

Baler

04-19-2016, 10:11 AM

Where do they think things like 40 hour work weeks came from? Workplace safety regulations? Compensation for injured workers? Minimum wage?

Union mobsters breaking peoples legs. :D

Blitzers

04-19-2016, 10:28 AM

Lune

04-19-2016, 01:18 PM

maskedmelon

04-19-2016, 01:44 PM

Thank this man for the minimum wage

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Meeker

“It is much better to enact a minimum-wage law even if it deprives these unfortunates of work… better that the state should support the inefficient wholly and prevent the multiplication of the breed than subsidize incompetence and unthrift, enabling them to bring forth more of their kind.” Meeker

This is an interesting argument. I find it queer to suggest that the minimum wage prevents the miltiplication of the breed by in subsidy thereof, unless one wrongfully equates the abatement of symptoms with cure of the disease or if s/he embraces the false hope that an altered environment will necessarily alter the nature of the breed. Trust not to hope, the breed will flourish and bankrupt the state.

ronasch

04-19-2016, 03:49 PM

This is an interesting argument. I find it queer to suggest that the minimum wage prevents the miltiplication of the breed by in subsidy thereof, unless one wrongfully equates the abatement of symptoms with cure of the disease or if s/he embraces the false hope that an altered environment will necessarily alter the nature of the breed. Trust not to hope, the breed will flourish and bankrupt the state.

Not my argument, Meekers original intent of the minimum wage. Since then, the progressive left have utilized the breed to multiply loyal voters. I guess they evolved on the issue since they have discovered a benefit for their existence.

AzzarTheGod

04-19-2016, 05:04 PM

^Well it may not be PC, but he's not wrong.

Also, economics is a soft science, a social science, with minimal empirical integrity. There is no consensus among economists whether a minimum wage uniformly increases unemployment because of the labor supply-demand curve. Using that reasoning is like an undergrad physics student doing physics problems with perfect sphere or cube shaped objects with no friction and no air resistance. It's a very bad representation of the complexities of reality... like most models in economics. It's probably the only "science" where whether you are liberal or conservative impacts your "belief" in certain facets of the subject matter. That's not science.

Royal Meeker was a beast hes too right for this country.

There are no more great minds in America because we are all poisoned as infants by very heavy metals and a heavy brain inflaming vaccination schedule as soon as we are born. It is a scientific fact that brain inflammation is not a really normal thing as an adolescent or child, but inflaming an infants brain (proven fact from hardcore vaccination schedule) is somehow ok? "The rewards outweigh the risks".

But what if you made up said risks? Bam!

neurodevelopmental disorders in middle-class to upper-class families at a breakneck rate the past 40 years only further cements my belief. God bless Royal Meeker.

AzzarTheGod

04-19-2016, 05:10 PM

Union mobsters breaking peoples legs. :D

Italian and Irish immigrants mostly consisted of layabouts who derived no pleasure from actual work.

Unionizing was the only rational step for these two do-nothing ethnic groups.

Note the lack of Anglo-Saxon unions and mobsters. What these other mass migrant ethnic groups had in common was that they are natural born layabouts, hence getting in bed together in mob unions and fighting for layabout rights.

When the Anglo-Saxon workers and bosses disagreed, it went on to turn out that these 2 layabout groups were barbarous enough to get violent about their right to lay around. Hence said broken legs and beatings.

Daywolf

04-19-2016, 07:02 PM

layabouts who derived no pleasure from actual work.
No Irish need apply (https://youtu.be/F5SiLTPx9jM)
Unions offered jobs I guess, while Irish were turned away in most cases due to racism (Not even considered white). Obviously not all Irish joined unions, but a big factor of it being they that did were driven to it as the only opportunity to work. Interesting some people still hold the sentiment (most likely just trolling), considering the deep history of the Irish contributing to the rise of America becoming the innovative superpower in the modern world.

And not just from the point of a mass immigration, but even from the Constitutional Convention in which Irish participated in the founding of our nation, that being half of the foreign born delegates were from Ireland.