Solo Guardian Wurm

[Klaq]

Anybody know if this has ever been accomplished? What duos/trios would be the best combination?

[Dolalin]

Two shamans with JBBs and Torpor. Or three. Or four.

[bktroost]

Monk with wort pots can do anything. Mages with epic corpses and wort pots can do anything.

[iruinedyourday]

I tried duo once with fiveoxfour we gave it not much of a shot tho and quit very quickly becuse were lazy, not becuse it was impossible.

I think its duoable but solo would be a big fat stretch.. you gotta split em to solo em :/

And yea im sure a monk with 8bags 10 bags full of pots could put a dent in a wurm.. kill? not so sure...

[-Catherin-]

used to duo with a shaman and druid on live. We didnt have to worry about splitting because there was always a roaming one. That one doesnt appear to be here on this server.

[Victorio]

Clr Enc with Elder Wyvern charm pet and some soulfires too. Not sure if wyvern can DW if given weps. Werebats can.

[iruinedyourday]

how does a enc/clr break the 3 wurmspawns?

[Klaq]

Is it the resists that are the problem, or do they have crazy regen, or both, or something else? Because 25k hps doesn't seem all that bad. The hits, yeah, that would hurt, but apparently they only double?

[evilkorn]

Slow doesn't always land right away because they are 60. The need to split would mean you need a monk/harmony to pull them if you wanted to solo it. The other issue is mobs falling through the top of the VP ent just like they do at the ToV zone in.

Maybe if you bind at BW and try to get one single there so you can run around and root you could do it easier with a pre slow.

[iruinedyourday]

Is it the resists that are the problem, or do they have crazy regen, or both, or something else? Because 25k hps doesn't seem all that bad. The hits, yeah, that would hurt, but apparently they only double?

well, yes they are resistant, it could take 2 casts to land a malo on him it could take 6 it can take 1 cast to land a slow on him or it could take 3 maybe 4..

In skyfire there is not really good space to kite them the way you would some other mobs to apply both those debuffs..

not to mention.. there are 3 of them and you have to use FD/sneak/javs to solo pull/break them.

Even with a cleric on heals he is going to be hitting the tank hard until you can apply all 3 debuffs required to get him slowed.

and thats WITH tash.

If a monk can stay up while you aply those debuffs, you're good to duo it to death.

But fiveoxfour got fucking steamrolled when we tried to duo it, with torp on him at engage. Granted that was with pre-endgame kunark gear and no pots! ;)

Idk if its duoable with sham/monk but I am confident that if you did everything right, it would be.

:/

[iruinedyourday]

Slow doesn't always land right away because they are 60. The need to split would mean you need a monk/harmony to pull them if you wanted to solo it. The other issue is mobs falling through the top of the VP ent just like they do at the ToV zone in.

Maybe if you bind at BW and try to get one single there so you can run around and root you could do it easier with a pre slow.

yea with two peeps that cant split them, I could see zoning at SF zone working, and using that area to apply debuffs.. but god damn.. thats a pretty fucking insane strat to kill what 1 guardian wurm every 10-20 mins in-between with this strat considering how much time its going to take to move from to from BW zone and VP and even then the amount of zongin back and forth you gonna have to do to split him from the inevitable train u end up pulling with him to that BW zone haha, SF is fucking blanketed with mobs IMO drives me fucking crazy.

[Doctor Jeff]

Have duo'd this with 60 druid and 60 shaman on red, used tash stick to start the fight didn't get a slow on for over a minute but the shaman tanked it fine and it was easy from there.

[EatitNerd]

^ more lies and trolling.

[Doctor Jeff]

^ more lies and trolling.

are you just posting in every single thread right now?

[Udabut]

Have done trio Non-torp 60 Sham, 60 Cleric, and 58 rogue. Was farming to get Torp for sham at the time. (have since got torp)

Sham pulled with Root to BW's ZL, root made easy split for Cleric.

[EatitNerd]

are you just posting in every single thread right now?

Only pointing out posts for people to ignore due to trolling while I'm on the shitter

[Doctor Jeff]

Only pointing out posts for people to ignore due to trolling while I'm on the shitter

sorry that you're mad for some reason. I only troll on red forum threads though.

[EatitNerd]

Have done trio Non-torp 60 Sham, 60 Cleric, and 58 rogue. Was farming to get Torp for sham at the time. (have since got torp)

Sham pulled with Root to BW's ZL, root made easy split for Cleric.

See, this is a viable way to kill a guardian wurm

[Cecily]

60 rogue, 60 druid, 60 ranger. LF adventure whenever. Pm me if you need a hand.

[SniGlas]

Shaman / Bard / Monk

[Oleris]

if you can pre slow it a shaman can solo kill it without any gimmicks. Just GL doing it with skyfire trash.

[Pheer]

Monk with wort pots can do anything.

^

It wouldn't be economical but its definitely possible. Hokushin can solo ragefire using maybe like 3k worth of consumables so I dont see why any raid geared monk wouldnt be able to solo a guardian wurm with a few pots.

[Pan]

Done lots duo (60monk/60shaman) in the Kunark era.

Getting slow to land is the tough part. Opened with dual tash sticks and hoped for a good roll. Once it's slowed, it's just about paying attention and attrition.

Don't think I could solo one on my L60 shaman. But that might be more a matter of my skill lacking than the mechanics being impossible.

[iruinedyourday]

^

It wouldn't be economical but its definitely possible. Hokushin can solo ragefire using maybe like 3k worth of consumables so I dont see why any raid geared monk wouldnt be able to solo a guardian wurm with a few pots.

These wurms can down a tank when unslowed, in like 10 seconds... So idk if a monk can solo one of these.. Can a monk solo ixi with pots? Wurms are just a tad bit easier than them.

[jpetrick]

These wurms can down a tank when unslowed, in like 10 seconds... So idk if a monk can solo one of these.. Can a monk solo ixi with pots? Wurms are just a tad bit easier than them.

Slowstone amber to slow, soulfire/pots to heal. Easily done if you feel like using a lot of clickies.

[gummab]

Done lots duo (60monk/60shaman) in the Kunark era.

Getting slow to land is the tough part. Opened with dual tash sticks and hoped for a good roll. Once it's slowed, it's just about paying attention and attrition.



Same here,it's all about getting slow to land get 2 or 3 resists and it more or less over for you.

Also done it with 60monk/60shaman/60enchanter which is a lot easier.

[iruinedyourday]

Slowstone amber to slow, soulfire/pots to heal. Easily done if you feel like using a lot of clickies.

Come on you ever kill a gwurm lmao slow stone Amber landing on one without double Malo is a pipe dream.

[iruinedyourday]

Same here,it's all about getting slow to land get 2 or 3 resists and it more or less over for you.

Also done it with 60monk/60shaman/60enchanter which is a lot easier.

Trio is ez but I just don't think you can effectively duo because without tash it's vvvveeeerry noticeable trying to slow it.. Which means if you get a proc that takes too long your tank gon be squished.

Until I see a video of a duo I just don't believe it... unless we're talking rediculous strats line fighting at the zone line or something. That I can believe. But just sitting at vp clearing wurms as a duo? Idk bout that.

[Ele]

Trio is ez but I just don't think you can effectively duo because without tash it's vvvveeeerry noticeable trying to slow it.. Which means if you get a proc that takes too long your tank gon be squished.

Until I see a video of a duo I just don't believe it... unless we're talking rediculous strats line fighting at the zone line or something. That I can believe. But just sitting at vp clearing wurms as a duo? Idk bout that.

They are discussing one-time strats as a proof of concept and not a lock-down farming strat. Blowing through 10+ wort pots, soulfire, reaper, mallet, amber, and strings to kill a single mob isn't at all economical or feasible for the common man.

[xexbis0]

A Shaman / Monk in Velious gear should have no problem doing this. I could see it getting sticky without using clickies (mallet for instance to just run it around while it's slowed) without a certain baseline of gear.

[iruinedyourday]

They are discussing one-time strats as a proof of concept and not a lock-down farming strat. Blowing through 10+ wort pots, soulfire, reaper, mallet, amber, and strings to kill a single mob isn't at all economical or feasible for the common man.

Yea I can see a 1 time kill, I've said that few times I agree its do-able. But even still I dont think a bag full of pots + all that shit will work with this mob. Youll never land a slowstone amber solo even with tash.. I mean maybe if you're extremely lucky.. but thats it.

On the other hand if you throw strings in there, then yes could be possible. Especially if you were a cleric.

But a monk? Id think it could work, but I think it wont work.

[Clever]

Duod these many times, won right at 50% of the fights. Toughest part is that we split/killed them on the spot, so during most fights there was at least 1 chromo pathing through stripping buffs. On occasion we dropped a wurm or wyvern only to have to deal with 3 rooted, chaincasting debuffers behind them.

MNK/SHM. Some of the most fun I've had on this box.

[iruinedyourday]

Duod these many times, won right at 50% of the fights. Toughest part is that we split/killed them on the spot, so during most fights there was at least 1 chromo pathing through stripping buffs. On occasion we dropped a wurm or wyvern only to have to deal with 3 rooted, chaincasting debuffers behind them.

MNK/SHM. Some of the most fun I've had on this box.

50% success rate seems believable for a duo! These wurms are no joke.

[Cecily]

Invite a rogue for 100% success, you monsters.

[iruinedyourday]

Invite a rogue for 100% success, you monsters.

success at being outrolled on an 87 for a topor scroll

NO THANKS

/GREEDY :D

[Cecily]

You people are why I hate playing my favorite character ><

[iruinedyourday]

You people are why I hate playing my favorite character ><

lmao

http://i.imgur.com/Hl85zKl.gif

[Lojik]

If it's just to show you can do it, shm with puppet strings and fd ring and clickies could. Though, i think this is one of those few camps that is most streamlined in a good group as opposed to duo/trio...really want shm/bard/enc for ease of debuff to land slow, pretty easy after that.

[iruinedyourday]

If it's just to show you can do it, shm with puppet strings and fd ring and clickies could. Though, i think this is one of those few camps that is most streamlined in a good group as opposed to duo/trio...really want shm/bard/enc for ease of debuff to land slow, pretty easy after that.

dont forget the rogue! :D

[Lojik]

dont forget the rogue! :D

Yep, just stressing that you really want all debuffs before slow, kind of like going after tranala/travala. If the rng is bad you can have a pretty tough time of it without tash/oos/malo. Ideal setup probably something like enc/brd/shm/rog/tank/cleric. Might seem like overkill when you do it, but do it without and the pace of clearing can slow down considerably if you get a bunch of wurms in a row and bad rng on slow.

[iruinedyourday]

Yep, just stressing that you really want all debuffs before slow, kind of like going after tranala/travala. If the rng is bad you can have a pretty tough time of it without tash/oos/malo. Ideal setup probably something like enc/brd/shm/rog/tank/cleric. Might seem like overkill when you do it, but do it without and the pace of clearing can slow down considerably if you get a bunch of wurms in a row and bad rng on slow.

yea from grouping days i remember the shaman being like, "IS THIS THING TASHED?!?" and then Im like

http://i.imgur.com/Ut0Tn6E.gif

*cast tash*.. uh yea!

then the sham being like, "ah yea there we go."

really drove home how without tash, these things can be basically spell immune.. Literatly every time I forget to tash the sham would be like HEY WTF?!

and id be like "Lol these guys are resistant! Had it tashed but I just recast once again just incase 'for good measure'..." (aka i forgot again lmao)

what Im saying here is, without tash, you're not going to land any debuffs on these guys before he eats whatever is tanking him

[Arthros]

used to trio these w/ bard, war, shm. I would pull with my bard to BW zoneline, zone off aggro and let warrior pull the wurm (so other mobs from VP entrance would wander back). he would then kite it until me and shm zoned back in and we would keep kiting it until shm's slow landed. pretty easy kill from there and not too difficult once spawns were broken up.

[iruinedyourday]

used to trio these w/ bard, war, shm. I would pull with my bard to BW zoneline, zone off aggro and let warrior pull the wurm (so other mobs from VP entrance would wander back). he would then kite it until me and shm zoned back in and we would keep kiting it until shm's slow landed. pretty easy kill from there and not too difficult once spawns were broken up.

I think this is a duo strat that would work just fine. But gdi thats a long run just to remove 1 roll on a topor drop hah

[Treats]

Duo'd with Epic Mage/Cleric before Donal's nerf

Was a crapshoot though, couple max rounds and pet wouldn't make it

[gummab]

Trio is ez but I just don't think you can effectively duo because without tash it's vvvveeeerry noticeable trying to slow it.. Which means if you get a proc that takes too long your tank gon be squished.

Until I see a video of a duo I just don't believe it... unless we're talking rediculous strats line fighting at the zone line or something. That I can believe. But just sitting at vp clearing wurms as a duo? Idk bout that.

Not saying it's effective,But it sure as hell can be done at VP zone line with no strat other than using tash sticks. It's risky for sure and you will wipe a few times but its better than most snorathon camps.

[Liia]

Duo'd with Epic Mage/Cleric before Donal's nerf

Was a crapshoot though, couple max rounds and pet wouldn't make it

Haha I didn't take time to post. I think you also forgot pre inviz pull nerf.
I don't think it could have been farmed by that duo even if it was possible!

[iruinedyourday]

Not saying it's effective,But it sure as hell can be done at VP zone line with no strat other than using tash sticks. It's risky for sure and you will wipe a few times but its better than most snorathon camps.


yea but whats your opinion on whether something is effective or not? wiping 5/6 times is way past that for me and I find it hard to believe that (becuse you are going to rely on RNjesus to win this fight as a duo) you'd be wiping any less than 5 out of 6 attempts trying to duo this at the VP ent

But I am not a velious raid geared sham/tank..

I am confident a vel geared sham/tank could duo these reliably though, Im basing that opinion on my gut though, but its a pretty strong gut feeling that it is duo-able with vel raid gear.

[Alanus]

Even assuming the wurm was single pulled and you had unlimited room, I really doubt anyone (with Velious gear) could solo a guardian wurm, even with the right clickies and gear. Shaman won't be able to slow without tash, enchanters can't slow without malo, and no way any melee would stay alive against them. Maybe a shaman with a real lucky proc of tash right off the bat, then kiting it while debuffs land would work.

Honestly, the best chance is probably monk or warrior with lots of clicky heals, but even that I doubt is doable. Even though they only have 32k hp and double, they hit fast and hard.