Porting Fare?

[MiRo2]

I find myself travelling quite a bit, and getting ports from non-guildies for the most part. Being the perpetual poor man, I can only tip so much, but I often feel guilty regarding the amount I tip for the level of character ported. So I ask the community how much do you pay for your ports?

[Cecily]

Please, if you can afford to, make it more worth your porter's time to port you instead of killing a hill giant. 40-50 minimum.

[Phantasm]

i always do 1plat/player level

level 20 = 20 plat
level 60 = 60 plat

if you haven't the plat, only items, always give them something worth the trouble since selling items can be a bother(unless it commonly vendors for 60+ plat)

EDIT: This is from a pretty well established character; as always, pay what you can, people are more understanding that you can fathom, and often very welcoming to new players

[Jimjam]

I figure as a minimum 1pp for every level you or the porter has, whichever number is highest works as a guideline. Double it for a kunark evac as that is 2 ports and a run.

[mr_jon3s]

I tip 69pp. Its the perfect number.

[Trungep99]

I always donate between 20-40 plat, I feel it is fair for someone's mana.

[applesauce25r624]

the right amount is... 17

what about toon's level?

17.... you're ready for ports

[jcr4990]

30-40 is pretty standard for me. Occasionally I'm feeling generous and will do more if its a DAP I regularly use and they're quick and courteous. Like that male woodelf guy in the full silver chitin. I forget his name. But I've used him a bunch of times and he's the best. Always super fast and a cool guy. I've tipped him 100pp+ a few times.

I feel like expecting 60+pp for a port is a bit silly tbh. Maybe I'm in the minority here but feels like a lot of pp to cast 1 port. Takes a LOT less effort time and mana than killing a hill giant imho.

[Jimjam]

I feel like expecting 60+pp for a port is a bit silly tbh.

I think this touches on a separate point. It is good to be generous with tips for ports as it is a major convenience (especially for melee/knights). However, as a porter you can't expect 1pp/per level as some people simply won't value the service that much (or don't pay what they really value the port as).

On the rare occasion I port on my wizard, I 'expect' about 20-30pp as a tip (expect here meaning 'anticipate'), however I am happy to port for free if I am not preoccupied as I didn't roll my wizard to make money. If I am busy I'll turn down offers of 30pp, even if I am only soloing and the port isn't particularly inconvenient. It's not worth risking losing a camp, wasting time running about when I could instead be meditating and conserving mana for fights if I'm busy.

[Sorn]

I don't really port for money most of the time, so, as some have discovered, I will turn down people paying 100pp or more if I'm doing something I don't want to interrupt.

I will reject anything less than 15pp but still port the player, as well as provide binds/buffs and occasionally escort them if they clearly have no idea what they're doing. Most will give either 30 or 50 pp total, although I've seen plenty of 60+ from raid-geared toons wanting to go to higher level places or people in a hurry.

I'm not anyone's favorite porter in particular since that's not what I do with my time, so I don't see the bigger numbers that career porters might. People will definitely pay more for their favorites. Depending on the person, it can get ridiculous (1kpp for a porter to drop everything and pick someone up, or so I've heard).

Anyway, the average is 30-50 for a regular port. More than that is usually considered a windfall.

[Taiku]

I farmed seafuries a lot in my down time on p99 so I might have a bit more expendable plat than others, always tipped 100 plat or more because ports feel like a luxury, worth it to make porter friends who will come pick you up wherever if they remember me. :3

[Swish]

As a former porter, there's too many L50+ choosing "50-100pp" on here.

You'll find most people are 30-40, some even as low as 15-20 depending on the situation.

[Cecily]

As a former porter, there's too many L50+ choosing "50-100pp" on here.

So you're saying you don't believe that there's 4 50+ people on server who tip over 50 plat? Yeah, you're probably right.

Edit: I never was good with greater than less than symbols.

Takes a LOT less effort time and mana than killing a hill giant imho.

But it's fun. And the hill giant tips 30-40p, same as you. I'd rather port the HG to hell.

[Swish]

Representative, I don't think the split is 50/50 (9 under 50 and 9 over 50) of the server as a whole... no way.

[NarcolepticLTD]

I've been stiffed by several HG's in a row but still kill them. If I get stiffed a couple times in a row by lvl 50+ non CR ports hot off hammer hill, I go back to porting HG's :)

There's a lot of factors on determining what would be an 'appropriate' tip for a port, and it isn't really something you can put a set rate on. Basically (like Cecily is elluding to), if folks are tipping well enough, porters will be more disposed to sitting at rings waiting to port you, rather than camping some xp/pp somewhere else.

It's not so much the cost of mana for the port, but more the time sink in being there available to port you when you're in a hurry running down to SF ramp...

[quido]

If you're above level 50 and you want a port, pay 100 plat or go fucking run.

[Valura]

got 17 for an ejac once

[NarcolepticLTD]

got 17 for an ejac once

I got 19 last week for an evac to EJ from droga... all in gold and silver, from a monk in one of the A's decked out BiS. No bullshit excuse, just 'thanks'.

That's the fast track to hitting a druid's ignore list folks :)

[Swish]

I got 19 last week for an evac to EJ from droga... all in gold and silver, from a monk in one of the A's decked out BiS. No bullshit excuse, just 'thanks'.

That's the fast track to hitting a druid's ignore list folks :)

Plenty of this goes on. People don't want to part with more than 30 of their 1million tunnelquest tokens.

[NarcolepticLTD]

Plenty of this goes on. People don't want to part with more than 30 of their 1million tunnelquest tokens.

the majority of the server pop that request evacs have tipped very well in my experience, which is why these guys stick out like a sore thumb (and why a lot of those porting set a minimum of 100p for evacs).

[Ravager]

If I don't have a ruby on me to pay for a port, I just run.

[Evia]

i always do 1plat/player level

level 20 = 20 plat
level 60 = 60 plat

if you haven't the plat, only items, always give them something worth the trouble since selling items can be a bother(unless it commonly vendors for 60+ plat)

EDIT: This is from a pretty well established character; as always, pay what you can, people are more understanding that you can fathom, and often very welcoming to new players

pretty much this. I generally do 50p a port. So if I'm going to Seb from WC and I do DL + Evac I generally pay 150 cause I consider the run from rings or spires to kc a "port" since it is time consuming. The 1pp per lvl is a fair gauge though I think.

[trite]

1pp per level

[maurilax]

30p + c2 on enchater.

50p on cleric

I always use /split and love when they think i didnt tip

[Tupakk]

It all depends on the level, the players attitude, time of day and where they want to go. There really isn't a standard as there are to many factors.

[Mytral]

If I am on a toon with lev and SoW and its on the same continent, I just run there. If I'm on another toon, or I need to go to a different continent, then I usually tip 30p. Mind you, I am at the ring waiting for them to arrive, and all they need to do is click a spell twice.

If they go above and beyond, or they someone make it special in someway, I'll tip 40 or 50. If I ask them to travel away from a ring (which i never do), then i'd tip much more.

Expecting 100p just for porting from druid ring to druid ring is silly.

Making a comparison between farming HG's and clicking a spell twice is just plain gibberish.

[Lune]

Back when I was a noob, I usually paid anywhere from 25-40pp... generally without requesting pickups.

When I got money, I started paying at least 60, 80-120 for pickups.

When I retired from playing on P99, the few times I log in to screw around, I tip in blue diamonds / high lvl gems, 500-600 pp, whatever is lying around.

[TheOutdoorNerd]

As a returning player from live who didn't really know anyone, I struggled to pay that 1pp per level until about level 40. But I always made sure if I didn't have it, then I told the porter in advance. I also never contacted DAP unless I could easily cover that. A few times where I was really broke, I'd just take the boat.

It should be noted that as a newbie to P99, the community couldn't be more welcoming and accepting of _another_noob_00 joining the server, and that includes ports. No one's ever complained abut me being broke or changed their minds and didn't port me after telling them I'm broke. I've even had porters inspect me and give me gear!

The first time I heard about DAP, I imagined a guild full of dipshit dr00ds gouging everyone on the server, but that's not the case. Yeah, they make a lot of plat, but half of that is because they're so cool and professional. I try to pay them 2pp per level and still feel like I'm underpaying them.

[Zorlon]

100-200p if you pick me up somewhere or run to a dungeon to evac me, or just going out of their way in general to help me.

~50p or less if you're just sitting at tunnel where you're bound advertising port service.

Seems fair to me, nobody has ever complained....yet!

[The Prez]

The way this poll is worded seems backwards to me. The top three options read as if the player is under level 50, and the bottom three as over 50, but I believe that most of the level 50 and greater players are responding using the top three.

I.e. if we flip them, it reads Player<50 (player less than 50) for the top 3, and Player>50 (player greater than 50) for the bottom 3.

[azeth]

30-40 for a port, 100 for an ejac.

not a chance id ever pay more

if i REALLY need to get to Velious, I'm hitting my thurg pot. If I REALLY need to get to Kunark im hammering or hitting an FoB pot. If I REALLY need to get to plane of fear im hitting a swamp or Lizard Pot.

There is no situation where I actually NEED a port. You're a convenience and absolutely not worth more than 40p.

[jcbbjjttt]

I typically pay 100p. But I understand that is not normal. I frequently get a "are you sure?" Or "wow! Thanks!" For me a port is a huge time saving convenience and I am happy to tip well.

I would say, as a general rule, pay what you can and don't be stingy if you have more. Money (read 50 - 100p) is fairly easy to come by once you're level 10 to 20 if you need it. Go farm a few pp spots in your level range if you're "broke".

[arsenalpow]

Usually a ruby. I don't always carry coin, but always a stack of rubies.

[khanable]

I give whatever plat value takes my inventory to be nearest 50 or 100p, while trying to be above 50p

So if I have 1223 on me, you'll get 73
If I have 1110 on me, you'll get 110

:p

[gildor]

Being a DAP member, I really don't care what the fare is when I am porting..

If you can give me 3p, give me 3p..if you can't, don't! no big deal..karma pays me handsomely in return.

I was given a spell I sold for 9k for a port, I have been given gear that I still wear to this day for ports.

There is no set fare, nor a required fare. Whatever is fair, is a fare fair.

[Swish]

Ever wonder why there's no druids porting out of Butcherblock? It's usually noobs who aren't donating enough.

Meanwhile in OT...

[NizmerThafen]

I usually pay a base minimum of 40pp and then pay more based on the following factors:
-How brisk was the time between port request and service being rendered?
-What level is required to make the port?
-What are the risks associated with this port? Ex.) Wakening lands sometimes has risk.
-Were buffs provided?

[Swish]

I usually pay a base minimum of 40pp and then pay more based on the following factors:
-How brisk was the time between port request and service being rendered?
-What level is required to make the port?
-What are the risks associated with this port? Ex.) Wakening lands sometimes has risk.
-Were buffs provided?

"Hold on I need to med (for 2-3 minutes)" :D

[NarcolepticLTD]

Ever wonder why there's no druids porting out of Butcherblock? It's usually noobs who aren't donating enough.

Meanwhile in OT...

It's a pretty dead zone a lot of the time, but plenty of druids do port in and out of here regularly due to the popularity of unrest/MM. I think it has a lot less to do with the potential tip amount and more an issue of waiting a while before someone needs a port.

I make it a habit to port into BB as well several other out of the way destinations when off peak to see who's around that needs a ride... but usually it's just more efficient to set your bind to a spot to base from and gate back as soon as you port.

If I'm on a toon other than my druid and happen to be 'stuck' in BB with no druid waiting right there at the rings... it isn't hard to dial one (though I'll usually run/take the boat/ use fire pots in TD / whatever)

[myriverse]

I never port.

[Freakish]

I tip them with those fake $10 bills that have bible verses on them once you pull it from under the plate.

[leftharted]

I tip them with those fake $10 bills that have bible verses on them once you pull it from under the plate.

Ahh man, I fell for a 100$ one in the floor at 7-11 not long ago... Never have I ever gone from such a state of euphoria to full blown rage so quickly in my life.

[Sage Truthbearer]

40-50pp for ports and 100pp for evacs/pick-ups.

-10pp from what I was gonna give if you didn't SoW me.

[jcr4990]

-10pp from what I was gonna give if you didn't SoW me.

Would it be a dick move to tip -10 if I'm in a hurry and the porter insists on sowing me as a lvl 60 shaman without role/anon on and a epic showing?

DAP Porters: I love you. But I'm in a hurry and I have instant click SoW boots. Let's just go :P

[Detoxx]

I give whatever plat value takes my inventory to be nearest 50 or 100p, while trying to be above 50p

So if I have 1223 on me, you'll get 73
If I have 1110 on me, you'll get 110

:p

And I thought I was the only one who did this! Day OCD doe

[Gumbo]

I sometimes port people who ask and I have gotten some decent money from players and some players are cheap as hell. Lot of times I noticed that the players who are cheap are either high level players (50+) or twinked out Alt.

The worse port I ever had was a player around level 40+. Now, when I port someone, I'll accept any donation before or after the port. But when I do port, I'll throw in a Sow but this guy asked for a Sow before I could even invite him.

Then he asked for Levitate. Then he asked for Invisibility.

I then proceed to port the guy. We arrive and he sends me via group 2 platinums. Not through trade but through the group split, says Thanks, disbands and runs off.

[NarcolepticLTD]

I sow pretty much everything that's moving at normal run speed, and sometimes corpses.

[Freakish]

I sometimes port people who ask and I have gotten some decent money from players and some players are cheap as hell. Lot of times I noticed that the players who are cheap are either high level players (50+) or twinked out Alt.

The worse port I ever had was a player around level 40+. Now, when I port someone, I'll accept any donation before or after the port. But when I do port, I'll throw in a Sow but this guy asked for a Sow before I could even invite him.

Then he asked for Levitate. Then he asked for Invisibility.

I then proceed to port the guy. We arrive and he sends me via group 2 platinums. Not through trade but through the group split, says Thanks, disbands and runs off.

He did /split because a trade world break invis.

[weaseal]

The first time I heard about DAP, I imagined a guild full of dipshit dr00ds gouging everyone on the server, but that's not the case. Yeah, they make a lot of plat, but half of that is because they're so cool and professional. I try to pay them 2pp per level and still feel like I'm underpaying them.
We don't really make that much, especially compared to other money-making schemes. That being said, it's also relatively easy income compared to other schemes, so it's perfectly acceptable to me. The hardest part (and this is rare) is dealing with jerks who feel entitled. Most of the community is great.

[weaseal]

DAP Porters: I love you. But I'm in a hurry and I have instant click SoW boots. Let's just go :PIf you're in a hurry and you don't want SoW, try stating that in the chat window. Most of the time we are slammed with tells and rarely looking at the world around us (eg noticing your epic boots).

[eqravenprince]

30pp... And I think that is a lot

[tylercanuck]

30-40 is pretty standard for me. Occasionally I'm feeling generous and will do more if its a DAP I regularly use and they're quick and courteous. Like that male woodelf guy in the full silver chitin. I forget his name. But I've used him a bunch of times and he's the best. Always super fast and a cool guy. I've tipped him 100pp+ a few times.

I feel like expecting 60+pp for a port is a bit silly tbh. Maybe I'm in the minority here but feels like a lot of pp to cast 1 port. Takes a LOT less effort time and mana than killing a hill giant imho.

Rubbish? I hear he's a pretty swell guy! :D

[jcr4990]

Rubbish? I hear he's a pretty swell guy! :D

Yes! Couldn't think of the name for the life of me. Rubbish is the man. Is that you? :P

[Wisteso]

I've been a porter myself, and a 96% rezzer.

Typically donate 40-60. Often closer to 40 because I do the leg work for them (am standing right next to them, the just invite and cast).

Offering to provide additional buffs = more likely to tip more. Lots of people don't do this.

Lots of unrealistic opinions in this thread. A few hundred mana and minimal effort for anything over 30 plat is a good deal. Especially if you're just watching Netflix or something on the side.

[unclemorty]

This thread is the best reason I have seen for having PoP books added as custom content.

[Spyder73]

I tip 15pp almost every time unless its a pickup or some other circumstance.

If I meet you at SF ramp and want a port to WC - you're getting 15pp

Edit: If I have been out hunting (rare these days on my monk) I will tip a gem

[Ravager]

370-450 mana depending if they gate or port back to where they came from. At around 15 mana per tick medding for level 40-50 porters, that takes around 2.5-3 min to get back, druids typically sow, so that's more mana, invis is more mana, lev is more, though they are all smaller amounts, they add up. Under level 40, meditate takes longer, probably 4-5 minutes to med it all back. Add 30% or more time if the druid or wizard is picking you up.

This doesn't take into account time spent on waiting for whomever it is you're porting which could add another 5-10 minutes to the porter's time spent.

It's not unreasonable to tip more than the average drop of a hill giant, because the druid or wizard could have killed two of them in that time.

[Crawdad]

Apologetic's in Dial-A-Port. I usually get between 20-50p from regular ports, though 50-100p isn't uncommon from raiders.

When I'm not porting, I pay between 30-50p and DMF/C, more if they're unaffiliated or in patchwork.

Personally I think paying/expecting more than 50p for a regular port is crazy unless you're doing some kind of labor intensive pick-up/escort. 300mana doesn't take that long, especially when its so easy to get a C/C2 in EC. 50p/300mana with little to no effort is a mighty fine racket.

[Tupakk]

I've been a porter myself, and a 96% rezzer. .

Lots of unrealistic opinions in this thread. A few hundred mana and minimal effort for anything over 30 plat is a good deal. Especially if you're just watching Netflix or something on the side.


If you have ever flown DaP Tags you would know that Netflix isn't even an option durning peak times and some of off peak times.

That is why we don't have set or standard amounts because when there is an entire screen of tell boxes and people you are juggling you don't really have the time to do much else.

As far as the wait times for porting, if you are effiecent then there really isn't much med time. Eventually you will run into a ENC that will C2 and GoB you. You would be surprised how much longer you can last out there with it.

Yes it is nice to get 50p a port or more the more I feel depends on the speed of the porter. Yes it's only 2 clicks but if those 2 clicks are a matter of mins or even seconds convert that to time spent running from Point A to B and that is what you are paying for.

[Erati]

I always tip 25-50 plat when I can

back in 2010 tho I wouldnt lift a finger to port anyone for less than 70-80 plat. I would get to you QUICK when I saw someone WTB Port for 80 during the global ooc days

Porters would rush to you