Iksar faction?

[Seeatee]

I am a dark elf shadowknight, I want nothing more then to call greenmist my own.

my question is this, exactly how much faction work am I going to have to do? how long can I expect it to take? and what is the best way / ways to earn said factions?

[synraak]

7,100 Bone Chips, that's all you need :D

[Rahnza]

7,100 Bone Chips, that's all you need :D

That's only 1775 platinum at the going rate, start collecting early!

[Abraxos]

So I remember people working for Iksar faction but how exactly do you do this if your KOS? Sorry, It's been ten years. :D

[Ralexia]

Practice your bone chip questing in Grobb at the shadowknight guild before the real deal in Kunark. If you turn in 1000-2000 bone chips you can become non kos to the guards. Sure, its the rookie league but ya gotta start somewhere.

[Taluvill]

What if I wanted to do it as a Druid of Tunare?

[xshayla701]

Apologies for bumping an old thread. I am a dark elf (obv) so is it worth it to try to raise iksar faction? I know it would be a bitch, but would it be worth it in the long run? If so, how the hell do I do that?

[Curmudgen]

Just a thought. When it first came out it was iksar only. I know this for a fact. Later in the game it was changed, but I believe that it was after velious.

[ChairmanMauzer]

If so, how the hell do I do that?

As posted above: "7,100 Bone Chips, that's all you need "

[Taddare Plume]

Kill Snaraks, goblins, and frogloks until the Legion of Cabilis do not want you dead, turn in bone chips in FoB for the rest. The shaman will never like you, so avoid the guild in town.

[Ralexia]

I found this link to be helpful.

http://www.eqclassic.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=407&p=4712

[xshayla701]

As posted above: "7,100 Bone Chips, that's all you need "

oh.. that was serious ><

thanks~

[ChairmanMauzer]

oh.. that was serious ><

thanks~

You turn in 4 chips at a time to Trooper Mozo at the Cabilis gate in Field of Bone.

[maximum]

Read

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=23086&highlight=bone+chips

[Curmudgen]

So is the greenmist gonna be not restricted to iksar?

[Tobius]

7,100 Bone Chips, that's all you need :D

Ah but is that 7100 for him to do greenmist?

How many stacks to just hit dubious with everyone except legion and necros?

[Tobius]

That's only 1775 platinum at the going rate, start collecting early!

Howd you figure thats 355 stacks.

7pp a stack minimum

2485pp by my count what am I missing.

[Ostehaps]

Kill Snaraks, goblins, and frogloks until the Legion of Cabilis do not want you dead, turn in bone chips in FoB for the rest. The shaman will never like you, so avoid the guild in town.

shaman and SK guild is in the same building.. and iirc bone chip quest raises Scaled Mystics faction as well... but i'm not sure..

[Tobius]

shaman and SK guild is in the same building.. and iirc bone chip quest raises Scaled Mystics faction as well... but i'm not sure..

I think he means you wont have got anything for them while getting to dubious with legion.

It's Necros that don't care about the bonechip quest.

[Bubbles]

Howd you figure thats 355 stacks.

7pp a stack minimum

2485pp by my count what am I missing.

back on the date that post was made, bone chips were still 5pp a stack.

[Tobius]

back on the date that post was made, bone chips were still 5pp a stack.

Damn really? They went UP.

I thought time bought prices down, with people being 60 now they are presumably easier to farm, more zones to do it in etc, how did this happen?

[Klyre]

Damn really? They went UP.

I thought time bought prices down, with people being 60 now they are presumably easier to farm, more zones to do it in etc, how did this happen?

Well I don't know, but I would guess that A. mobs are tougher and Necros are going through more bone chips and B. Influx of Iskar Necros.

I am sure someone will tell me how wrong I am though

[Boomlaor]

Price increase I think is due to a large number of people working on cabilis faction.

[Tobius]

So anyone know if the figures qouting were in relation to getting greenmist faction rather then dubious alone?

What faction does greenmist require?

I just wanna get non-kos.

[Curmudgen]

I asked this in another thread and did not hear a reply. When greenmist and shackle quests first came out they were iksar only for a time, then changed so that other races could use them.

Is that the case on this server?

[malroth69]

if you use the bone chips faction quest, don't you have to use some kind of trick in order for it to work, like sneak/FD or something? Won't you be KoS to those guards before faction grinding?

[Tobius]

if you use the bone chips faction quest, don't you have to use some kind of trick in order for it to work, like sneak/FD or something? Won't you be KoS to those guards before faction grinding?

You kill stuff to get dubious with legion that's the comparitvly quick and easy part.

As a brell worshipping dorf I got to Threatning with 1500 kills, and apprehensive by 2000 kills of mixed goblins/forsaken (forsaken/bandits/mauraders are how you get iksar necro faction) and maxed FV too.

Then you can start handing in bonechips to trooper mozo (legion of cabalis) from dubious onwards. It's getting to dubious with shammys, sk's, monks and merchants that is the hard part.

[malroth69]

You kill stuff to get dubious with legion that's the comparitvly quick and easy part.

As a brell worshipping dorf I got to Threatning with 1500 kills, and apprehensive by 2000 kills of mixed goblins/forsaken (forsaken/bandits/mauraders are how you get iksar necro faction) and maxed FV too.

Then you can start handing in bonechips to trooper mozo (legion of cabalis) from dubious onwards. It's getting to dubious with shammys, sk's, monks and merchants that is the hard part.

Ok thanks, with doing that you will still have to avoid the crusaders too right, aren't they SK's?

[Kharzette]

You'll need amiable with the crusaders to get beyond the first weapon. The "I lost my starter weapon" quest is doable dubious. Con Bodhli for crusader faction, Quarg is actually a shaman.

[sethern]

Just a thought. When it first came out it was iksar only. I know this for a fact. Later in the game it was changed, but I believe that it was after velious.

None of the Khukri from level 1 to Greenmist where ever Iksar only. I know this for a fact. I was the first player on my server to get Greenmist and I was a Darkelf SK. Heck you can log on p1999 now make a level 1 iksar sk and check it out.

[Uthgaard]

I spent a week getting the exact point values for every race class and deity modifier for all of the iksar factions. Factions themselves as written into PEQ had a couple of major bugs. An Innoruuk worshipping dark elf will be at a total of -2000 faction. The max gain or loss before caps is 2000. You'll be limited to indifferent until velious, and you'll only be able to push it over into amiable with a charge of an ornate velium pendant.

[Nirgon]

The str grabber on the greenmist is also great for small races.

[Prahadigm24]

Is there any chance a dwarven paladin (= Brell) can become non-KOS in Cabilis doing the bone chips quest? Dubiously would be sufficient, apprehensive / being able to sell just nice-to-have.

It would be cruel to turn in the chips for days and then discover I can't get out of KOS anyway. ;)

[Uthgaard]

No. Best you can reach is -1000, which is threatening. I only checked LegionofCabilis and CabilisResidents, but for goody goods, that's about what you can expect from most of the factions.

[Prahadigm24]

What a pity... these scaled bastards! Thanks Uthgaard for the quick response!

In that case I'll try to make friends with the Overthere outpost.

[Pyrocat]

if you use the bone chips faction quest, don't you have to use some kind of trick in order for it to work, like sneak/FD or something? Won't you be KoS to those guards before faction grinding?

You can have a high level enchanter or bard charm Trooper Mozo for a while.

Greenmist won't be out until Velious though.

[blid2def]

I spent a week getting the exact point values for every race class and deity modifier for all of the iksar factions. Factions themselves as written into PEQ had a couple of major bugs. An Innoruuk worshipping dark elf will be at a total of -2000 faction. The max gain or loss before caps is 2000. You'll be limited to indifferent until velious, and you'll only be able to push it over into amiable with a charge of an ornate velium pendant.

Are you able to share if an agnostic erudite mage can ever get to dubious with the Scaled Mystics faction (e.g. Crusader Quarg)? I've submitted about 327+ stacks and he still remains scowling, while the rest of the factions (except necros on BroodOfKotiz faction) are at least indifferent now.

Someone suggested that about 7,100 chips are needed (355 stacks) to get to at least dubious with all factions (again, except necros) but that would seem to suggest to me that Quarg should turn threatening by now at 327+.

Or are agnostic erudite mages destined to never be able to share beers with those lizard shammies?

[Rasah]

Or are erudite mages destined to never be able to share beers with those lizard shammies?
You need to say what your religion is. Erudite alone isn't enough to make that determination. Most religions have a negative modifier, and agnostic is zero.

[blid2def]

You need to say what your religion is. Erudite alone isn't enough to make that determination. Most religions have a negative modifier, and agnostic is zero.

Sorry, agnostic. Edited original reply as well. Thanks.

[blid2def]

Update: more than 355 stacks (i.e. 7,100 chips) later...

Crusader Quarg is still scowling while others are at least indifferent (some warmly, some amiable). Warlord Zyzz cons amiable as well and he's also on Mystics faction (among others) I believe. I've also never done anything to get negative faction hits with Mystics.

What's wrong with Quarg? I don't think he's on BroodOfKotiz faction is he? Or agnostic erudite mages just can't get non-KOS regardless with this chap?

[happyhappy]

I'm pretty sure that Greenmist was Iksar only when it was first introduced then changed to all SK races later during Luclin.

[blid2def]

Update: more than 355 stacks (i.e. 7,100 chips) later...

Crusader Quarg is still scowling while others are at least indifferent (some warmly, some amiable). Warlord Zyzz cons amiable as well and he's also on Mystics faction (among others) I believe. I've also never done anything to get negative faction hits with Mystics.

What's wrong with Quarg? I don't think he's on BroodOfKotiz faction is he? Or agnostic erudite mages just can't get non-KOS regardless with this chap?

Well, final update I guess. Zoned into East Cab and went to the Shammy guild to con the Prime Hierophant Vek and he was scowling. So I guess it's not a problem with Quarg, just that the Mystics are really demanding and 355+ stacks (1,755+ turn ins) were still not sufficient to move from scowling to threatening for an agnostic erudite mage.

If I read an earlier post right, max gain/loss for hits is 2,000 - which probably means hitting dubious now is very unlikely, unless the step from threatening to dubious is < 245 hits (and I still need to move from scowling to threatening first).

Is my conclusion correct?

[Black Swordsman]

I dont know if the quest for explorer knives is on this server but I know that I have seen the explorers in the tower in Lake of Ill Omen. If you kill explorers to get non kos to the legion and then turn in all of the knives you can get a pretty significant faction boost with most iksar factions. You will still have to kill outlaws for brood of kotiz faction though.

[blid2def]

If the max faction gain is 2,000 and I'm still at scowling with 1,755+ turn ins (I assume 1 turn in = 1 hit), then that leaves about 245 hits for me to gain 2 levels of faction (get to dubious from scowling). Knives might affect the rate of gaining faction hits, but it wouldn't affect the best case end point I could reach.

I'd really like to know if my reading of the 2,000 max gain is correct, and if so, whether it's possible for me to even get to dubious with 245 hits left (e.g. if the step from threatening to dubious requires 250 hits, then I know it's impossible for me to get there).

[Pyrocat]

I dont know if the quest for explorer knives is on this server but I know that I have seen the explorers in the tower in Lake of Ill Omen. If you kill explorers to get non kos to the legion and then turn in all of the knives you can get a pretty significant faction boost with most iksar factions. You will still have to kill outlaws for brood of kotiz faction though.

IIRC this quest isn't in until velious.

[blid2def]

Thanks for the reply. Guess I'll stay away from the Mystic faction fellas then.

[Rabidspork]

I'm pretty sure that Greenmist was Iksar only when it was first introduced then changed to all SK races later during Luclin.

According to the wayback machine you seem to be correct about it starting out as iksar only.

http://web.archive.org/web/20020409085017/http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=7029

[blid2def]

And to answer your earlier questions, quarg is on scaledmystics, and they have a particular hate for mag/enc/wiz/bard.

Ah thanks. So sad. I guess I'll focus my energy on bonding with the necros then. Thanks again.