BDA to Phinigel

[arsenalpow]

Managed to smash all of VT minus just two minis this time, our first time was minus five minis. Hopefully we shave another one off next week as we increase our overall raid DPS.

[Juevento]

So apparently the loot council only gives the best items to clerics when JCR is involved. Hmmmmm

Half the fun of being on loot council is screwing that guy over and listening to him get all salty.

[iNteg]

Half the fun of being on loot council is screwing that guy over and listening to him get all salty.

So you admit to screwing someone over for loot? Kinda fucked up to screw them over. If they earned it just to hear them be salty.

[arsenalpow]

Except Juevento doesn't get to make loot decisions. Way to get baited mongo

[Murri]

^ is that Sam Deathwalker?

He had the highest burst DPS in the game

[khysanth]

Half the fun of being on loot council is screwing that guy over and listening to him get all salty.

gr8 b8 m8

[Nibblewitz]

Except Juevento doesn't get to make loot decisions. Way to get baited mongo

That's not true. On occasion, we will bring in the most elite of our veteran members to discuss loot; they always seem to have a handle on who will get the most salty.

It's a good system.

[sirelothar]

That's not true. On occasion, we will bring in the most elite of our veteran members to discuss loot; they always seem to have a handle on who will get the most salty.

It's a good system.

Since you're no longer in BDA, can you reveal on a scale from 1 to 10 how I'm favored by officers? Looking for input before leaving for my next guild. Thank you.

[Swish]

thanks BDA for giving me an item that would benefit a mana user the most, but instead giving it to me, the rogue. Included is the rogue in question, waving at the camera. #NoBias #LootCouncil4Life 8)

http://i.imgur.com/u6G1IHv.jpg

So apparently the loot council only gives the best items to clerics when JCR is involved. Hmmmmm

Half the fun of being on loot council is screwing that guy over and listening to him get all salty.

That's not true. On occasion, we will bring in the most elite of our veteran members to discuss loot; they always seem to have a handle on who will get the most salty.

It's a good system.

If anyone thinks "hmm, I'll go to Phinny and join BDA, it'll be great!" - just take a look at that first. Not only is the system for loot distribution bad, but it seems you're encouraged by the leadership to be a scumbag.

Maybe its the effect of being in a community where you're not allowed to open any windows and allow fresh air in. Enjoy breathing the same stale air in your closed off instances.

[Ravager]

Since you're no longer in BDA, can you reveal on a scale from 1 to 10 how I'm favored by officers? Looking for input before leaving for my next guild. Thank you.
Do a shoey and you'll be first consideration on all drops.

[Donjulio]

Do a shoey and you'll be first consideration on all drops.

Thats not true I started the shoey wave, I went years without loot.

[arsenalpow]

Thats not true I started the shoey wave, I went years without loot.

you aren't Fattyfatty

[jcr4990]

you aren't Fattyfatty

Even if he is he clearly doesn't play anymore or keep up with how things are on Phinny. OGC has overtaken AoS in Luclin and from what I hear they (AoS) have tons of people quitting/on the verge of quitting cause of issues with leadership. Leader or raid leader or something got suspended for training AHR on Darkwind I think? Then decided nobody else in the guild gets to raid luclin content til his suspension was over. That went over real well from what I hear.

[Swish]

Even if he is he clearly doesn't play anymore or keep up with how things are on Phinny. OGC has overtaken AoS in Luclin and from what I hear they (AoS) have tons of people quitting/on the verge of quitting cause of issues with leadership. Leader or raid leader or something got suspended for training AHR on Darkwind I think? Then decided nobody else in the guild gets to raid luclin content til his suspension was over. That went over real well from what I hear.

Is that meant to make you look like a better option based on the last couple of pages?

[skarlorn]

Can't believe it guys. Page 487. BDA members have finally trolled swish

[Hoozi]

Swish you now much change your name to "swoosh". That one went right over your head and you never even saw it coming.

[Hoozi]

Meant must not much. Stupid autocorrect.

[Relbaic]

Since you're no longer in BDA, can you reveal on a scale from 1 to 10 how I'm favored by officers? Looking for input before leaving for my next guild. Thank you.

You're about a 3. Shadow Council has determined you're on a loot lockout until we get to Elemental planes in PoP, so about 3.5 months.

[big_ole_jpn]

wisdom

[heyokah]

care if I put this in my sig? should I just have it with no name?...

No p99 characters anyone would know, quote at will my lord.

[Swish]

Can't believe it guys. Page 487. BDA members have finally trolled swish

I'm all for 1000 pages, 10000 pages...they continue to reply :o

We'll see what's up after PoP, won't be much to talk about i reckon.

[sirelothar]

I'm all for 1000 pages, 10000 pages...they continue to reply :o

We'll see what's up after PoP, won't be much to talk about i reckon.

GoD and OoW are amazing for raid content, you'll have to wait until about Dragons/Depths before it really dies down.

[Korrupt]

rmt server lol accounts running 1k a pop jesus

[jcr4990]

When other people spend money on video games it directly impacts how much fun I'm having

/s

[khysanth]

I'm all for 1000 pages, 10000 pages...they continue to reply :o

We'll see what's up after PoP, won't be much to talk about i reckon.

thanks for all your bumps and baits :o

[Baler]

When other people spend money on video games it directly impacts how much fun I'm having

/s

That's a weak justification for what bda did.

[Swish]

thanks for all your bumps and baits :o

You're welcome, keep replying to them...morans.

[khysanth]

people are so immersed they are starting other threads now lol

[Raev]

Don't fall for cheap imitations produced by child laborers

[Ravager]

Especially when you can get the real thing from manchild laborers!

[AzzarTheGod]

update

[jcr4990]

update

Sittin at a pretty ~600dkp and t-minus 10 days til up for full member vote. Then I can actually start buying good things that go for min dkp all day. Ranger box almost lvl 58. 50% xp bonus still active til the 15th and been poppin 25% exp pots to get leveling over with. 2 more levels and like 30 AA's and I'll have a solid dps alt to bring to raids and loot rotting bows of storms.

[jcr4990]

update

Oh you prolly meant BDA update. Dunno.

[Swish]

One of the thread's most frequent posters has fled BDA for a guild offering DKP rather than "lol loot council".

I think there's secret prayers going on in the guild for a recycle server here so they can return under the guise of a better option rather than looking like the second rate guild they are and slowly fizzling out :o

[Ravager]

update
I've been playing my no twink, no EC, no vendor diving, quest only, loot only, craft only solo monk and I hit a wall at level 20 but then I went to Kunark and looted an Iksar Berserker Club from an undead jester in Kurn's Tower and now the an aviak guards in Lake Rathetear are on easy mode. So, long story short, if you play with Kunark loot, you may as well use cheat codes.

[Pumpedup]

Sittin at a pretty ~600dkp and t-minus 10 days til up for full member vote. Then I can actually start buying good things that go for min dkp all day. Ranger box almost lvl 58. 50% xp bonus still active til the 15th and been poppin 25% exp pots to get leveling over with. 2 more levels and like 30 AA's and I'll have a solid dps alt to bring to raids and loot rotting bows of storms.

this is what unemployment looks like

DKP

LOL

unemployment points

[big_ole_jpn]

this is what unemployment looks like

DKP

LOL

unemployment points

really was a disturbing post. these ppl watch their dingus kissing points like they were tracking the 401k

[jcr4990]

Unemployment dingus kissing points or invisible shadow council cuck points

Lesser of 2 evils?

[AzzarTheGod]

Unemployment dingus kissing points or invisible shadow council cuck points

Lesser of 2 evils?

He right

[big_ole_jpn]

both are cuckery and all cuckery is created equal my friend

[Speedi]

Ever notice it's the same people that post in this thread? Just let this thread die just like BDA did on p99. I don't think there is anyone that currently plays on p99 that really cares what BDA is doing on phinny.

Let's get something fresh people!

[arsenalpow]

Ever notice it's the same people that post in this thread? Just let this thread die just like BDA did on p99. I don't think there is anyone that currently plays on p99 that really cares what BDA is doing on phinny.

Let's get something fresh people!

If you want something "fresh" I'd think Phinny fits that description more than stale ass p99.

[Swish]

If you want something "fresh" I'd think Phinny fits that description more than stale ass p99.

Why would people want to play ezmode EverQuest though? P99 is only stale if you can't get guaranteed raid mobs apparently, which is why you left :o

You thought by leaving you'd really dent the server pop. That didn't happen. All you got left is this thread to TRY and convince people to leave, but the pop here is still healthy. Sorry about that.

[maskedmelon]

I have earned many dingus kissing points, although it happens very slowly for me because I always getting cockblocked by gainful employment :/

Anyone have good solution for this?

[kaev]

I have earned many dingus kissing points, although it happens very slowly for me because I always getting cockblocked by gainful employment :/

Anyone have good solution for this?

Since banning the unemployed from the server is apparently a non-starter, it's pretty much full-on abstinence or live with your preferred flavor of the disease.

[Daldaen]

Bought my horse yesterday after many plat donations for ports from the Nexus. Pretty hilarious, made more platinum TLing people for an hour without even advertising in the Nexus than Dial a Porters make in a day of doing pickups.

Some dude gave me 1k to TL 12 of his pals to Surefall glade so they could slay Lady Vox. Such immersion assisting them in their raid efforts! Another guy paid 250 for an immediate port to Skyfire because a Pearlescent Shard was rotting. I laugh at the idiots who think the Nexus killed porting.

I had some good fun grouping with Chest, Fifield and friends. Got a whole level and 3 VT Shards plus a baller weapon from Akheva! Thanks friends, it looks like you got that ME shard right after I passed out, that one always blew.

Up to level 57 and 1 AA, one more level until Druid CH $$$. Hoping to get 58 before double exp ends.

Finished the Tunare gloves, got up to shawl 4 done, still farming stupid glowing biles to finish off shawl 5. Done most of the Druid epic except the 2 raid fights and Ulump. Put in some work on Coldain ring for an instant clicky but the tundra Kodiak pelts have proven difficult. Gotten 4 VT shards now.

Luclin has plenty to do, and whenever you're grouping that EXP is going to use because of AAs. What a good design decision by those Devs!

[khysanth]

yea the Nexus only helped porters... most of the time people who want to go to GD or GFay can't even be bothered to wait the 1-15 mins for the scions to send them down

[Nibblewitz]

Nexus is great for the portly.

[Nibblewitz]

Ever notice it's the same people that post in this thread? Just let this thread die just like BDA did on p99. I don't think there is anyone that currently plays on p99 that really cares what BDA is doing on phinny.

Let's get something fresh people!

BDA: the dumpster fire that everyone huddles around for warmth.

[jcr4990]

Some dude gave me 1k to TL 12 of his pals to Surefall glade so they could slay Lady Vox.

Hah I was in that group. Some people have more money than they know what to do with :P One of the officers I made friends with asked if I wanted to help do some 1-2 group oldschool raids. We did like some epic fights and Hate minis and Nag/Vox then I had to log and I think they did Zlandicar.

[Pumpedup]

you dont have any money

[skarlorn]

BDA: the dumpster fire that everyone huddles around for warmth.

[Pumpedup]

Bought my horse yesterday after many plat donations for ports from the Nexus. Pretty hilarious, made more platinum TLing people for an hour without even advertising in the Nexus than Dial a Porters make in a day of doing pickups.

Some dude gave me 1k to TL 12 of his pals to Surefall glade so they could slay Lady Vox. Such immersion assisting them in their raid efforts! Another guy paid 250 for an immediate port to Skyfire because a Pearlescent Shard was rotting. I laugh at the idiots who think the Nexus killed porting.

I had some good fun grouping with Chest, Fifield and friends. Got a whole level and 3 VT Shards plus a baller weapon from Akheva! Thanks friends, it looks like you got that ME shard right after I passed out, that one always blew.

Up to level 57 and 1 AA, one more level until Druid CH $$$. Hoping to get 58 before double exp ends.

Finished the Tunare gloves, got up to shawl 4 done, still farming stupid glowing biles to finish off shawl 5. Done most of the Druid epic except the 2 raid fights and Ulump. Put in some work on Coldain ring for an instant clicky but the tundra Kodiak pelts have proven difficult. Gotten 4 VT shards now.

Luclin has plenty to do, and whenever you're grouping that EXP is going to use because of AAs. What a good design decision by those Devs!

What a great update

never post again

[khysanth]

chest has been online for 18 straight hours (not in bazaar)

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Ever notice it's the same people that post in this thread? Just let this thread die just like BDA did on p99. I don't think there is anyone that currently plays on p99 that really cares what BDA is doing on phinny.

Let's get something fresh people!

There will be much wailing and gnashing of teeth when these p99 fuckwads release a new blue server. I hear they are thinking of getting the band back together.

[FatMice]

9 more pages losers!! get it done!

[khysanth]

http://i.imgur.com/IrQUcJn.jpg

70

[jcr4990]

Can't wait for Green99. I bet it won't instantly turn into the same shitshow that Blue99 has been for years on end.

Non instanced raids are the best gais.

[radda]

Can't wait for Green99. I bet it won't instantly turn into the same shitshow that Blue99 has been for years on end.

Non instanced raids are the best gais.

Troll harder, Hellen Keller could see your sarcasm

[arsenalpow]

Got another robe off emp today. Looks super cool

[Raev]

Caen's Bo Staff of Fury looks pretty sweet. 43/30 ratio and above all +10% to block, a monk's single best skill.

Of course if your monks are using 20/23 epic fists or whatnot maybe it's not that important.

[AzzarTheGod]

I have earned many dingus kissing points, although it happens very slowly for me because I always getting cockblocked by gainful employment :/

Anyone have good solution for this?

Become a huge fucking loser with 100 lbs of dust to clean up

[arsenalpow]

Caen's Bo Staff of Fury looks pretty sweet. 43/30 ratio and above all +10% to block, a monk's single best skill.

Of course if your monks are using 20/23 epic fists or whatnot maybe it's not that important.

Losing a lot of stats though when you can be wielding two one handers. I have an abashi and it's terrible dps. I think there's an AA in PoP that makes 2handers viable.

[Angushjalmur]

Cringing so hard its making my aesthetic masculine jaw ache

[Daldaen]

Level 58 now.

Loving Druid CH. So good when you actually have a real tank in your group or need to heal a charmed pet.

Luclin had some excellent gameplay changes.

[booter]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IA-svIyyHCQ

[booter]

literally the most well-known scammer across multiple MMOs in OGC :D

Biggboyy and his bro Sprinklez

[jcr4990]

literally the most well-known scammer across multiple MMOs in OGC :D

Biggboyy and his bro Sprinklez

Neither of which are in OGC anymore. But yea those guys are quite the pair.

[Valakut]

Unemployment dingus kissing points or invisible shadow council cuck points

Lesser of 2 evils?

i'll take the cuck points for forfeiting Vulak FTE 2 weeks in a row

[jcr4990]

Update: Velks OC/IC group with 2 monks 2 rangers cleric and enchanter is OP as shit. Charmed a Velium Hunter and gave it a conflag dagger/haste. Its backstabbing for 600+ and proccing for 625 left and right. Parsing at 300+ dps. Clearing all of ic/oc and having to pull into UD waiting on respawns. Getting 1 AA every 9-10 min with 50% bonus xp and 25% pot.

Inb4 classic nerds have an aneurysm

[AzzarTheGod]

Update: Velks OC/IC group with 2 monks 2 rangers cleric and enchanter is OP as shit. Charmed a Velium Hunter and gave it a conflag dagger/haste. Its backstabbing for 600+ and proccing for 625 left and right. Parsing at 300+ dps. Clearing all of ic/oc and having to pull into UD waiting on respawns. Getting 1 AA every 9-10 min with 50% bonus xp and 25% pot.

Inb4 classic nerds have an aneurysm

Bajeezus that's the fun the nerds can't have on P99.

Real mechanics, real gameplay.

[Ravager]

Fact: There are more BDA tagged people logged on P99 right now than TMO people. BDA won P99.

[jcr4990]

Fact: There are more BDA tagged people logged on P99 right now than TMO people. BDA won P99.

Last time I logged on one of my alts on P99 it was still BDA tagged. They were just spamming mass invites to anyone and everyone.

[Ravager]

Last time I logged on one of my alts on P99 it was still BDA tagged. They were just spamming mass invites to anyone and everyone.
And how is this different from any other guild on P99?

[Cecily]

Fact: There are more BDA tagged people logged on P99 right now than TMO people. BDA won P99.

Lol. My dead guild can beat up your dead guild.

[big_ole_jpn]

i paid money to get exp faster so i can play the game less

[big_ole_jpn]

but im gonna play 18 hours a day anyway

[Detoxx]

Wonder if a single guild on Phinny could insta pull a ToV dragon at 4am to zone in with 15 people in camp when it gets there and set up tank orders, CH rots and all that jazz and actually get the kill.

That shit was intense and probably would make guilds like FoH / Afterlife / TR / LoS in their prime, or even now, watch with awe.

Was the funnest time on this server, right up there with VP train wars!

[Relbaic]

Wonder if a single guild on Phinny could insta pull a ToV dragon at 4am to zone in with 15 people in camp when it gets there and set up tank orders, CH rots and all that jazz and actually get the kill.

That shit was intense and probably would make guilds like FoH / Afterlife / TR / LoS in their prime, or even now, watch with awe.

Was the funnest time on this server, right up there with VP train wars!

That sounds tiring, I enjoy being asleep at 4am.

Also can't kite/train quite like you can on P99. You have your fun, I'll have mine.

[AzzarTheGod]

But man, them days is over.

[jcr4990]

4am batphones are the funnest part of EQ right guys?

[mr_jon3s]

Why would I want go get woken in the middle of the night for some pixels? I found a guild on Phinny that raids at a great time for me.

[AzzarTheGod]

4am batphones are the funnest part of EQ right guys?

Lol "remember back in the days".

Man them days is over. If you didn't get in on Phinigel, and still have an interest in great EQ content u done fukked up. Planes of Power is a giant, as is Omens of War.

Real classic raids, real deal caster itemisation.

Enjoy the stench of a very incomplete and under budget expac in Scars of Velious.

I like my games triple A and that's why I rock with Phinigel.

[eadric]

Wonder if a single guild on Phinny could insta pull a ToV dragon at 4am to zone in with 15 people in camp when it gets there and set up tank orders, CH rots and all that jazz and actually get the kill.

That shit was intense and probably would make guilds like FoH / Afterlife / TR / LoS in their prime, or even now, watch with awe.

Was the funnest time on this server, right up there with VP train wars!

Yep I'm sure those guys from FoH / Afterlife / LoS are anxiously following the achievements of p99 guilds, worried that their 16 year old glory will be eclipsed forever.

[jcr4990]

Yep I'm sure those guys from FoH / Afterlife / LoS are anxiously following the achievements of p99 guilds, worried that their 16 year old glory will be eclipsed forever.

Haha I get it. It's funny cause they don't do that.

[AzzarTheGod]

Yep I'm sure those guys from FoH / Afterlife / LoS are anxiously following the achievements of p99 guilds, worried that their 16 year old glory will be eclipsed forever.

lol gotta call the dunks when I see them

[nhdjoseywales]

Wonder if a single guild on Phinny could insta pull a ToV dragon at 4am to zone in with 15 people in camp when it gets there and set up tank orders, CH rots and all that jazz and actually get the kill.

That shit was intense and probably would make guilds like FoH / Afterlife / TR / LoS in their prime, or even now, watch with awe.

Was the funnest time on this server, right up there with VP train wars!

Skillwise there are several guilds that would be able to do anything a p99 guild could do. We split everything so low number kills are the norm for us. None of the mechanics are difficult, player roles aren't difficult at this point. We just think it stupid to get up at 4 am to kill a dragon. Why the fuck would furor be impressed by you killing something 17 years later on a simulated eq server where you had 5 years to gear up for velious and have been gearing in velious for another full year?

[nhdjoseywales]

Yo, i was at the park and i did this badass spin move on the fat kid and hit a layup. Michael Jordan would be like omg you is da shiz

[Priceline]

That shit was intense and probably would make guilds like FoH / Afterlife / TR / LoS in their prime, or even now, watch with awe.

quite true, those real EQ guilds had lives and played the game for fun, pity they didn't take it seriously.

[arsenalpow]

Wonder if a single guild on Phinny could insta pull a ToV dragon at 4am to zone in with 15 people in camp when it gets there and set up tank orders, CH rots and all that jazz and actually get the kill.

That shit was intense and probably would make guilds like FoH / Afterlife / TR / LoS in their prime, or even now, watch with awe.

This is why the raid scene on p99 will be a perpetual shitshow, this type of attitude from guilds like Aftermath that think they are reliving some misplaced glory from 17 years ago. Being delusional isn't healthy pal.

[Spyder73]

Jesus Christ...

[Daldaen]

The reason those guild would watch in awe is because of how some glaringly obvious incorrect mechanics exist on P99 that never existed on Live.

Being able to bind in ToV is an obvious one. No one could bind inside ToV. You had to bind outside at the pillar. Without ToV bind spots, no Dragons in North or East ToV would've been killed in the past 6 months on P99. Except for the one Cekenar CSG CotH'd up to kill. Just think about that. Due to a mechanic inconsistency, only a single dragon has been killed in the same way they were killed on live in the past 6 months.

Furthermore, all zones Kunark and beyond had set distances at which a mob would forget a player and return home if they ever got X distance away. In ToV this distance is small enough that your rebuttal to the above "yea but we could pull the same way without bind spots" would not work. Whether you try to time a Eye of Zomm or Javelin and a CotH or whatever other neat mechanic you intended to replace TL box pulling with, it wouldn't matter if this server worked like live. The mob would deaggro once you get CotH'd back due to the distance separation.

I do love me some low number kills and being forced to rush things together to do it. But requiring a 4 AM spawn and broken EQ mechanics to being put in that situation is dumb.

Set all Dragons to 2-4 hour respawn and remove all raid rules except respect FTE and don't train. You wanna poopsock underneath Dozekar for 4 hours and kill him twice have fun. You want to clear up to Triplets classic, have fun. You want to CotH into PoM cubby and clear to doubles, have fun. You want to CotH into Doubles directly, have fun.

You will see people try to 1-group Gorenaire and try to kill Cekenar with 2-3 groups. And try to CotH into doubles and engage Lady Nev/Jorlleag simultaneously. And try to kill Vulak in his room. Etc.

You just needa get the respawn time set so low that nerds stop caring about competing on every kill or every other kill. This is the ultimate fix to P99's raiding woes.

Let nerds have fun on their own terms without any nonsensical stall issues, proximity camp issues or all that other bullshit that causes you to blow up Sirken's Skype for 2 hours straight.

When I saw CSG get Feshlak this weekend and have a tough time pulling it I really was hoping they just said fuckit and set up in the Aaryonar hallway to clear to Feshlak. Would've been great.

[Legday]

Bring back mages in 2017.

[burkemi5]

1 AA every 10 minutes sounds like complete retard mode EQ. Granted you have several EQ bonuses in play + high end Luclin raid gear, it still seems ridiculously fast. Will one of you sage EQ nerds weigh in? How fast could you AA back in the day with raid gear?

[big_ole_jpn]

The reason those guild would watch in awe is because of how some glaringly obvious incorrect mechanics exist on P99 that never existed on Live.

Being able to bind in ToV is an obvious one. No one could bind inside ToV. You had to bind outside at the pillar. Without ToV bind spots, no Dragons in North or East ToV would've been killed in the past 6 months on P99. Except for the one Cekenar CSG CotH'd up to kill. Just think about that. Due to a mechanic inconsistency, only a single dragon has been killed in the same way they were killed on live in the past 6 months.

Furthermore, all zones Kunark and beyond had set distances at which a mob would forget a player and return home if they ever got X distance away. In ToV this distance is small enough that your rebuttal to the above "yea but we could pull the same way without bind spots" would not work. Whether you try to time a Eye of Zomm or Javelin and a CotH or whatever other neat mechanic you intended to replace TL box pulling with, it wouldn't matter if this server worked like live. The mob would deaggro once you get CotH'd back due to the distance separation.

I do love me some low number kills and being forced to rush things together to do it. But requiring a 4 AM spawn and broken EQ mechanics to being put in that situation is dumb.

Set all Dragons to 2-4 hour respawn and remove all raid rules except respect FTE and don't train. You wanna poopsock underneath Dozekar for 4 hours and kill him twice have fun. You want to clear up to Triplets classic, have fun. You want to CotH into PoM cubby and clear to doubles, have fun. You want to CotH into Doubles directly, have fun.

You will see people try to 1-group Gorenaire and try to kill Cekenar with 2-3 groups. And try to CotH into doubles and engage Lady Nev/Jorlleag simultaneously. And try to kill Vulak in his room. Etc.

You just needa get the respawn time set so low that nerds stop caring about competing on every kill or every other kill. This is the ultimate fix to P99's raiding woes.

Let nerds have fun on their own terms without any nonsensical stall issues, proximity camp issues or all that other bullshit that causes you to blow up Sirken's Skype for 2 hours straight.

When I saw CSG get Feshlak this weekend and have a tough time pulling it I really was hoping they just said fuckit and set up in the Aaryonar hallway to clear to Feshlak. Would've been great.

sound off if U readdit

[Raev]

Recap of the last 495 pages: both Project 1999 and Phinigel have a combination of classic mechanics that have been known for years and non-classic bugs that make them much easier, yet nerds on both servers still consider success there to be a life achievement.

[arsenalpow]

Recap of the last 495 pages: both Project 1999 and Phinigel have a combination of classic mechanics that have been known for years and non-classic bugs that make them much easier, yet nerds on both servers still consider success there to be a life achievement.

Pretty sure only the p99 nerds believe that EQ dominance is a life achievement. 4AM! WATCH IN AWE!

#WankingMotion

[eadric]

1 AA every 10 minutes sounds like complete retard mode EQ. Granted you have several EQ bonuses in play + high end Luclin raid gear, it still seems ridiculously fast. Will one of you sage EQ nerds weigh in? How fast could you AA back in the day with raid gear?

No, that's not classic, not even close. Even with Fungus Grove AE groups, or later in PoP with massive zone exp bonuses such as Plane of Valor, no one ever made 6AA/hr.

Of course, I don't see anyone saying that Phinigel is a true classic EQ experience. They're just saying that they're having fun.

[big_ole_jpn]

No, that's not classic, not even close. Even with Fungus Grove AE groups, or later in PoP with massive zone exp bonuses such as Plane of Valor, no one ever made 6AA/hr.

Of course, I don't see anyone saying that Phinigel is a true classic EQ experience. They're just saying that they're having fun.

shut up nerd 6aa/hr was possible on alkabor

[arsenalpow]

6aa/hr stacking an XP bonus and XP potion, 4-5 is pretty realistic with a optimized group and nonstop access to mobs. 3-4 an hour is what a person can expect from a normal PUG.

[Daldaen]

shut up nerd 6aa/hr was possible on alkabor

Either doing very specific AE groups in PoFire, Shakerpaging PoValor or exploiting broken mechanics to do Pit War... Yes you could do 6 AA in an hour on Al'Kabor.

Otherwise, no you couldn't.

[big_ole_jpn]

Either doing very specific AE groups in PoFire, Shakerpaging PoValor or exploiting broken mechanics to do Pit War... Yes you could do 6 AA in an hour on Al'Kabor.

Otherwise, no you couldn't.

thx for agreeing that yes it was possible

[jcr4990]

Either doing very specific AE groups in PoFire, Shakerpaging PoValor or exploiting broken mechanics to do Pit War... Yes you could do 6 AA in an hour on Al'Kabor.

Otherwise, no you couldn't.

Don't forget we're talking about a 75% xp increase (50% from server event 25% pot) when I was getting 6/hour in Velks. Gotta compare apples to apples. I assume you're talking about 6/hour with no xp bonus at all in these cases?

[big_ole_jpn]

i pay money for exp pots. wanna fuck my wife?

[jcr4990]

I can afford $3 to boost xp (and by extension fun) of playing one of my favorite games for 4 hours

Does $3 break your bank? If so I suggest getting off this forum immediately

[big_ole_jpn]

if a $3 crack rock breaks your bank u got bigger problems dude

[Daldaen]

Don't forget we're talking about a 75% xp increase (50% from server event 25% pot) when I was getting 6/hour in Velks. Gotta compare apples to apples. I assume you're talking about 6/hour with no xp bonus at all in these cases?

Al'Kabor had a base EXP modifier on the server in general. I think it was 25%.

But the servers client, code and spell data was so old that no EXP increasing potions or temporary boosts could be used on the server.

Al'Kabor also had a really weird bug that existed for a short period of time on live. Basically the EXP a mob gave was multiplied by the number of people in the group, and then split between them after. Which is normal for EQ, but the problem was this multiplication of the EXP occurred first in the code and then when it came time to split the EXP, you could have people out of range of the kill and they aren't counted in the split. So a group of 6 people, with 5 at the zone in and 1 guy soloing across the map, the one guy would be getting around 260% of the EXP.

So doing this at say PoFire tables you went from getting around 12-15% AA per kill to 40% per kill. Pretty ridiculous if you were a quadding wizard. Going from 50% of an AA per kill to about 160%. Even more ridiculous if you were Shakerpaging or Pit Warring.

[big_ole_jpn]

^dam that's woke didn't know bout that

upboat

[AzzarTheGod]

sound off if U readdit

not yet but Im up in this trick mobbing w/ my clique

[nicemace]

No, that's not classic, not even close. Even with Fungus Grove AE groups, or later in PoP with massive zone exp bonuses such as Plane of Valor, no one ever made 6AA/hr.

Of course, I don't see anyone saying that Phinigel is a true classic EQ experience. They're just saying that they're having fun.

in pop enchs could do aa every 2 mins. easily.

[Freakish]

Tactics pits? That was broken on live. Enc made bank there.

[bigbard1]

Finally 2 week ban over because some of these BDA guys are fuckin babies.

You guys finally full clearing VT or still partial because ur shit?

Cucks

[bigbard1]

chest has been online for 18 straight hours (not in bazaar)

real funny dude

sike ur a

http://i.imgur.com/BPcrg06.png

[radda]

real funny dude

sike ur a

http://i.imgur.com/BPcrg06.png

your sig looks like yer unhappy

[bigbard1]

your sig looks like yer unhappy

Not what your mom said

[arsenalpow]

Finally 2 week ban over because some of these BDA guys are fuckin babies.

You guys finally full clearing VT or still partial because ur shit?

Cucks

I thought it was a ban because you're 2edgy dropping fbombs.

[bigbard1]

I thought it was a ban because you're 2edgy dropping fbombs.

Ya, 2016 and you get your asshole hurt because someone called you a name on the internet.

[Ahldagor]

not yet but Im up in this trick mobbing w/ my clique

It's worth it.

[arsenalpow]

Ya, 2016 and you get your asshole hurt because someone called you a name on the internet.

You know there's no report feature right? Staff suspends/bans for using that word flagrantly. Don't blame your edginess on the the people posting.

[bigbard1]

You know there's no report feature right? Staff suspends/bans for using that word flagrantly. Don't blame your edginess on the the people posting.

Bullshit. You can easily do a search of that word on here and find 20+ pages of it on here and no bans went out. You went and cried because you got mad about a word on the internet.

Ps Luclin has been out almost 2 months and you still haven't fully cleared it. Ur shit

[Daldaen]

Killed Nagafen yesterday with 2 level 40s clerics. Got really dicey at the end as all healers ran OOM. Was a fun kill though. Naggy hitting for 560~ is no joke! Though sort of a joke since he doesn't banish in the instance lol.

Still good fun! Double CoF and Double Orbs $$.

[bigbard1]

Killed Nagafen yesterday with 2 level 40s clerics. Got really dicey at the end as all healers ran OOM. Was a fun kill though. Naggy hitting for 560~ is no joke! Though sort of a joke since he doesn't banish in the instance lol.

Still good fun! Double CoF and Double Orbs $$.

Great story. Told that story to my kids 18 years ago when Nagafen was relevant.

[khysanth]

http://i.imgur.com/IrQUcJn.jpg

69

[Valakut]

500 today boys lets go!!

[booter]

Shakerpaging or Pit Warring.

what are these things?

[Daldaen]

Shakerpaging is using the warrior Rampage AA to perform one melee swing on every mob in a short AE range while using the Earthshaker weapon. With 70 delay, and a shaman duel slow on you, you proc on like 30% of these swings so if you pull a large enough train you're instantly proccing a 250 DMG PBAE about 100 times and instantly killing 200 mobs.

It was nerfed around 2006-7 on live by making procs only fire on your target.

Pit Warring was exploiting mobs with different factions and 55+ mob code. Basically in PoTactics there are two different faction sets of mobs. What you would do is charm one of the necro wraiths and have it attack a Zek mob on the other faction table. Let it cast 1 DoT and then FD or zone. This will cause the mobs to fight each other and any mobs coming nearby to assist their specific faction.

The code during PoP for level 55+ mobs required that regardless of how the mob died, it would create a corpse and award EXP to the player closest to it, even if that player did no damage (this was their fix to raid mobs poofing cause necromancer DoTs or pets from FD players).

So after setting up the war you really didn't have to interact with it much, just hang around and collect EXP. occasionally you'd want to train more mobs into the fight to even things out. This exploit got people banned though obviously as it was a clear bug.

[Detoxx]

Bullshit. You can easily do a search of that word on here and find 20+ pages of it on here and no bans went out. You went and cried because you got mad about a word on the internet.

Ps Luclin has been out almost 2 months and you still haven't fully cleared it. Ur shit

Lol. Rekt. P99, phinny it dont matter...

BDA sucks.

[arsenalpow]

Except we've cleared everything two weeks ago. Keep waking up at 4am to awe your fans big guy.

[Detoxx]

Except we've cleared everything two weeks ago. Keep waking up at 4am to awe your fans big guy.

I will, sir. Thank you for being my biggesr fan! ❤

[bigbard1]

Except we've cleared everything two weeks ago. Keep waking up at 4am to awe your fans big guy.

False, you have left several bosses up both of your VT clears. So no you haven't cleared everything.

Back to being shit http://i.imgur.com/BPcrg06.png

[Detoxx]

False, you have left several bosses up both of your VT clears. So no you haven't cleared everything.

Back to being shit http://i.imgur.com/BPcrg06.png

Nothing like lying about your achievements on an elf sim.

Amirite?

[bigbard1]

Nothing like lying about your achievements on an elf sim.

Amirite?

Right, they are not even a top 10 guild on this server which is extremely embarrassing

Could you imagine being the 13th best guild on P99

[Raev]

False, you have left several bosses up both of your VT clears.

How is this even possible? Is this guy lying through his teeth? With all of the strategies are available from 2001 and two months to gear up? Maybe I'm biased by Project 1999 but the content seems so easy with Velious gear that I can't imagine not clearing it all with a guild of 50ish players.

And Project 1999 doesn't have Rogues and Monks and such doing 300 dps.

[booter]

4am watch in awe lol

[Erati]

How is this even possible? Is this guy lying through his teeth? With all of the strategies are available from 2001 and two months to gear up? Maybe I'm biased by Project 1999 but the content seems so easy with Velious gear that I can't imagine not clearing it all with a guild of 50ish players.

And Project 1999 doesn't have Rogues and Monks and such doing 300 dps.

Raev, the instances are timed and they are a 'casual guild'. You sometimes have to skip lesser bosses to make sure you have plenty of time to down the good ones and after the good ones are downed why do you reaaaallly want to go back for lessers. This is InstanceQuest, if you dont clear out your full instance, no one cares bc they have their own instances to clear.

Its just time trial runs over and over

[Bruno]

Shakerpaging is using the warrior Rampage AA to perform one melee swing on every mob in a short AE range while using the Earthshaker weapon. With 70 delay, and a shaman duel slow on you, you proc on like 30% of these swings so if you pull a large enough train you're instantly proccing a 250 DMG PBAE about 100 times and instantly killing 200 mobs.

It was nerfed around 2006-7 on live by making procs only fire on your target.

Pit Warring was exploiting mobs with different factions and 55+ mob code. Basically in PoTactics there are two different faction sets of mobs. What you would do is charm one of the necro wraiths and have it attack a Zek mob on the other faction table. Let it cast 1 DoT and then FD or zone. This will cause the mobs to fight each other and any mobs coming nearby to assist their specific faction.

The code during PoP for level 55+ mobs required that regardless of how the mob died, it would create a corpse and award EXP to the player closest to it, even if that player did no damage (this was their fix to raid mobs poofing cause necromancer DoTs or pets from FD players).

So after setting up the war you really didn't have to interact with it much, just hang around and collect EXP. occasionally you'd want to train more mobs into the fight to even things out. This exploit got people banned though obviously as it was a clear bug.

Shakerpaging made me a lot of money on eqmac. Those rockhopper hides sold really well. A lot of pit warring was going on too. I'm glad they took both out of the game.

[Bruno]

http://i.imgur.com/yuzImU8.jpg

[Valakut]

Thanksgiving hatefacts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G83M3NKo4mI

[Bruno]

Thanksgiving hatefacts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G83M3NKo4mI

Whose guild does he belong to?

[arsenalpow]

500 pages, do we win a prize now?

[bigbard1]

500 pages, do we win a prize now?

http://i.imgur.com/BPcrg06.png

[Daldaen]

How is this even possible? Is this guy lying through his teeth? With all of the strategies are available from 2001 and two months to gear up? Maybe I'm biased by Project 1999 but the content seems so easy with Velious gear that I can't imagine not clearing it all with a guild of 50ish players.

And Project 1999 doesn't have Rogues and Monks and such doing 300 dps.
I imagine most of the people grilling BDA for not clearing VT in a single day have never done Vex Thal or if they have aren't being honest about how long it takes.

The good guilds on Phinny that clear VT do it in like 5-6 hours of trash clearing.

On live before all the inflation of DPS and HP/Mana pools and such, Vex Thal took some guilds a 10-12 hour day to clear through. Its shit loads of trash mobs with shit loads of HP.

[bigbard1]

I imagine most of the people grilling BDA for not clearing VT in a single day have never done Vex Thal or if they have aren't being honest about how long it takes.

The good guilds on Phinny that clear VT do it in like 5-6 hours of trash clearing.

On live before all the inflation of DPS and HP/Mana pools and such, Vex Thal took some guilds a 10-12 hour day to clear through. Its shit loads of trash mobs with shit loads of HP.

http://i.imgur.com/BPcrg06.png

also i join the raid at 8pm and its over before midnight. So 5-6 hours?

[jcr4990]

The good guilds on Phinny that clear VT do it in like 5-6 hours of trash clearing.

OGC's best time is under 4 hours. I forget the exact time. I wanna say 3h 32m for full clear? Could be off a bit. Def not 6 unless something has gone very very wrong.

[jcr4990]

and that's 2 splitting. If it was 1 raid could be under 3h easymode

[skarlorn]

This thread is trash now sry

[Pokesan]

mine

[nostalgiaquest]

5000

[big_ole_jpn]

lets have 500 more good pages ill read em

[AzzarTheGod]

It's a long road to 588

[Pokesan]

another forum accomplishment to add to my resume

look out paulg, poke's on the rise

[nostalgiaquest]

ahh shit I thought I had snagged it. Oh wait I was the 5000th reply per the R&F main page, not the 5000th post.

I AM SHAMED!

[skarlorn]

another forum accomplishment to add to my resume

look out paulg, poke's on the rise

what did u do

[Pokesan]

ahh shit I thought I had snagged it. Oh wait I was the 5000th reply per the R&F main page, not the 5000th post.

I AM SHAMED!

there's honor enough for the both of us, friend. we are the elf sim elite now.

[big_ole_jpn]

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[skarlorn]

this is a big deal for us all. i feel like a big champagne

[big_ole_jpn]

I wish I was born black

[big_ole_jpn]

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[AzzarTheGod]

I wish I was born black

[AzzarTheGod]

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only affects my phone. not IE browser on a PC

[bigbard1]

OGC's best time is under 4 hours. I forget the exact time. I wanna say 3h 32m for full clear? Could be off a bit. Def not 6 unless something has gone very very wrong.

Daldaen is a cuck boy. No one cares what he says except the people who live in the bug forums of elfsimulator99.

[booter]

Onward to 1000

[colicab]

IVAS best time was this past weekend with an earth shattering 3hr 16m clear time /faint. I don't think we will be able to improve on that number very much.

[Daldaen]

Are you guys clearing every boss? I know a lot of people skip the key droppers on the first floor because their loot was considered sort of mediocre. Even still I appear to be wrong about the 5-6 hour time, maybe that was just the nerds initial clears with 30-40 people keyed I was remembering.

[colicab]

Yeah, we clear every single boss. Our first clear was 5hr 59 minutes. Literally killed last boss distributed loot and got booted from zone.

[skarlorn]

hey cuteyฏ๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎ ๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎ํํํํํํํ ํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํ ํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํ ํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํ ํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํ ํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํ ํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํreach for the skyฏ๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎ ๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎๎ํํํํํํํํํ ํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํ ํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํ ํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํ ํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํ ํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํ ํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํํ

[arsenalpow]

We don't break 60 on our VT clears and there's some boxes in there so until we get better geared we're going to at that 5-6 hour range on clears. It's a longer night but obviously that loot is worth it.

[booter]

guilds clearing it in 3.5 hours also aren't clearing through the whole zone. it's much more like p99 with bosses being pulled and trash being kited.

[bigbard1]

guilds clearing it in 3.5 hours also aren't clearing through the whole zone. it's much more like p99 with bosses being pulled and trash being kited.

So confirmed BDA is fucking awful at Everquest. Thanks for clarifying.

[entruil]

still waiting for update from swish on leo vs raph gif sigs...

[entruil]

I'm all leo but still redder than cantankerous raph...

[booter]

(chorus: ʳᶦᵍʰᵗ ᵗʰᵉʳᵉ) mMMMM

[jcr4990]

So confirmed BDA is fucking awful at Everquest. Thanks for clarifying.

I'm not sure about awful but definitely not quite the same level as some of the top guilds. There's some really solid raiders in BDA without question. But there's definitely a very noticeable difference in the way raids are run between BDA and the more serious guilds. A much bigger difference than I expected to be quite honest. Guess I've just been out of the hardcore scene so long that over time I forgot how things are in the top guilds. I've had to step my game up quite a bit since switching guilds. I'm used to half an hour of afk/jackoff time after every boss while the elf council has a private meeting to decide which officer gets to loot the good stuff. Since joining OGC when loot drops I BARELY even have time to look at what dropped and see if its anything I'm interested in before mobs are being pulled to move to the next boss. In Ssra usually the next boss is half dead while we're still bidding on loot from the previous boss and loot doesn't take very long to do either.

Chest will insist the only difference is gear and he and his officers are the best leaders Norrath has ever seen because BDA has been a guild for a long time while other guilds have fallen apart. I never quite bought into that narrative even as a BDA member. Gear excuse doesn't really hold much weight anymore either considering BDA had basically an entire expansion of raiding under their belt prior to Luclin launching. You get a LOT of gear throughout the course of an expansion. Perhaps too much of that gear was in the hands of too few players? Uneven gear distribution could cause some raid performance issues I'm sure. But I'm fairly confident gear isn't the major difference here.

[arsenalpow]

I'm not sure about awful but definitely not quite the same level as some of the top guilds. There's some really solid raiders in BDA without question. But there's definitely a very noticeable difference in the way raids are run between BDA and the more serious guilds. A much bigger difference than I expected to be quite honest. Guess I've just been out of the hardcore scene so long that over time I forgot how things are in the top guilds. I've had to step my game up quite a bit since switching guilds. I'm used to half an hour of afk/jackoff time after every boss while the elf council has a private meeting to decide which officer gets to loot the good stuff. Since joining OGC when loot drops I BARELY even have time to look at what dropped and see if its anything I'm interested in before mobs are being pulled to move to the next boss. In Ssra usually the next boss is half dead while we're still bidding on loot from the previous boss and loot doesn't take very long to do either.

Chest will insist the only difference is gear and he and his officers are the best leaders Norrath has ever seen because BDA has been a guild for a long time while other guilds have fallen apart. I never quite bought into that narrative even as a BDA member. Gear excuse doesn't really hold much weight anymore either considering BDA had basically an entire expansion of raiding under their belt prior to Luclin launching. You get a LOT of gear throughout the course of an expansion. Perhaps too much of that gear was in the hands of too few players? Uneven gear distribution could cause some raid performance issues I'm sure. But I'm fairly confident gear isn't the major difference here.

I'm fairly confident that you're an idiot. You raid with a guild that's been split raiding every expansion since the beginning of the server so your guild is way way way overgeared and smashes content as a result. You're absolutely clueless about how BDA is run, how we do things, and the speed at which we do them because when we started raiding in earnest you had already quit because you didn't get a Vulak robe.

[bigbard1]

I'm fairly confident that you're an idiot. You raid with a guild that's been split raiding every expansion since the beginning of the server so your guild is way way way overgeared and smashes content as a result. You're absolutely clueless about how BDA is run, how we do things, and the speed at which we do them because when we started raiding in earnest you had already quit because you didn't get a Vulak robe.

Did you guys give your first aten neck to a bst? I legitimately don't know the answer.

[AzzarTheGod]

Did you guys give your first aten neck to a bst? I legitimately don't know the answer.

The question of the day.

[bigbard1]

http://i.imgur.com/meY6cgO.gif

[Bruno]

Did you guys give your first aten neck to a bst? I legitimately don't know the answer.

As much as I despise their bullshit dkp system, it doesn't even matter. Most guilds are well beyond the we're gearing up specific classes to down mobs phase, especially after downing emp. Two of our bards have it, but we don't do loot council.

[jcr4990]

I'm fairly confident that you're an idiot. You raid with a guild that's been split raiding every expansion since the beginning of the server so your guild is way way way overgeared and smashes content as a result. You're absolutely clueless about how BDA is run, how we do things, and the speed at which we do them because when we started raiding in earnest you had already quit because you didn't get a Vulak robe.

I'm clueless about how BDA is run? Lol if you say so dude. I'd say I know a fair amount. If I was clueless about it I'd probably still be in the guild. We had everything in the game on farm status before I quit raiding. The fact that VT is taking you 6 hours with 60 people tells me things haven't changed much since I raided actively. Still spending too much time loot counciling. People still AFKing/fucking around too much. DPS classes not playing anywhere near optimally. I wasn't any more geared than any of the other necros while I was raiding but still pulled like 2x the dps of most of them. Have any of the wizards figured out how to top the parse yet? Or are the tanks still not able to generate enough aggro for them to do so?

[bigbard1]

I'm clueless about how BDA is run? Lol if you say so dude. I'd say I know a fair amount. If I was clueless about it I'd probably still be in the guild. We had everything in the game on farm status before I quit raiding. The fact that VT is taking you 6 hours with 60 people tells me things haven't changed much since I raided actively. Still spending too much time loot counciling. People still AFKing/fucking around too much. DPS classes not playing anywhere near optimally. I wasn't any more geared than any of the other necros while I was raiding but still pulled like 2x the dps of most of them. Have any of the wizards figured out how to top the parse yet? Or are the tanks still not able to generate enough aggro for them to do so?

I'm a wizard missing 2 pieces of gear (yes empty slots) and I'm between 1-3 every fight on parse. BDA fucking sucks.

[Relbaic]

I'm clueless about how BDA is run? Lol if you say so dude. I'd say I know a fair amount. If I was clueless about it I'd probably still be in the guild. We had everything in the game on farm status before I quit raiding. The fact that VT is taking you 6 hours with 60 people tells me things haven't changed much since I raided actively. Still spending too much time loot counciling. People still AFKing/fucking around too much. DPS classes not playing anywhere near optimally. I wasn't any more geared than any of the other necros while I was raiding but still pulled like 2x the dps of most of them. Have any of the wizards figured out how to top the parse yet? Or are the tanks still not able to generate enough aggro for them to do so?

Oh you. We roll with about 20-25 for the first 60-90 minutes, and have never once claimed to try and push content out as fast as we can. But hey, you stopped playing in July, surely nothing could have changed in 4 months, right?

[bigbard1]

Oh you. We roll with about 20-25 for the first 60-90 minutes, and have never once claimed to try and push content out as fast as we can. But hey, you stopped playing in July, surely nothing could have changed in 4 months, right?

You play with one of the most autistic players to ever grace the game (Chest) and are in one of the worst raiding guilds on the server.:confused::confused:

[Ravager]

You play with one of the most autistic players to ever grace the game (Chest) and are in one of the worst raiding guilds on the server.:confused::confused:
When you call someone autistic as an insult, it just makes you look stupid, because it's clear you don't know what autism is.

If you want to insult Chest and not come off as an idiot yourself, you'd be better going with old stand-bys such as: "Chest is the biggest asshole on the server." "Chest is a jerk." "Chest is a flaming bag of feces on the doorstep of EverQuest, both emulated and otherwise." "Even Mormon's think Chest is a complete jackass." "The relative size of Chest's genitalia when compared to the national average is sub par."

See, with a little more thought than a 4th grader put into an internet meme, you can insult someone without embarrassing yourself. There's real people with real autism and most get along in life just fine. When you turn their completely human attributes into a disparaging remark, you're no better than your run-of-the-mill bigot.

[bigbard1]

When you call someone autistic as an insult, it just makes you look stupid, because it's clear you don't know what autism is.

If you want to insult Chest and not come off as an idiot yourself, you'd be better going with old stand-bys such as: "Chest is the biggest asshole on the server." "Chest is a jerk." "Chest is a flaming bag of feces on the doorstep of EverQuest, both emulated and otherwise." "Even Mormon's think Chest is a complete jackass." "The relative size of Chest's genitalia when compared to the national average is sub par."

See, with a little more thought than a 4th grader put into an internet meme, you can insult someone without embarrassing yourself. There's real people with real autism and most get along in life just fine. When you turn their completely human attributes into a disparaging remark, you're no better than your run-of-the-mill bigot.

No, I don't think you understand. Chest really has Autism.

[Ravager]

No, I don't think you understand. Chest really has Autism.
Whether he does or doesn't, you still missed the point. Bigot.

[Nibblewitz]

He stole someone's ring turn-in, and his only excuse was "I didn't think I would get caught."

Hardcore.

[Pumpedup]

every player on this project is in the spectrum

every single one

[arsenalpow]

He stole someone's ring turn-in, and his only excuse was "I didn't think I would get caught."

Hardcore.

Ya, and I was one of the only people that wanted to give him redeem himself. FuckMeRight.jpg

[Ravager]

every player on this project is in the spectrum

every single one
It's possible.

[jcr4990]

He stole someone's ring turn-in, and his only excuse was "I didn't think I would get caught."

Hardcore.

Oh look it's the ring 8 shit again. That's all anyone can ever come up with when shitposting against me. For the record I didn't break any rules. It may have been a douche move but who hasn't done something douchey in EQ after playing for 17 years? I did everything in my power to make things right and all has long ago been forgiven by the only person that matters in this situation (Hint: Not Nibblewitz or Chest)

Nobody answered my question tho. Did BDA wizards figure out how to dps/tanks figure out how to aggro yet?

[Relbaic]

Oh look it's the ring 8 shit again. That's all anyone can ever come up with when shitposting against me. For the record I didn't break any rules. It may have been a douche move but who hasn't done something douchey in EQ after playing for 17 years? I did everything in my power to make things right and all has long ago been forgiven by the only person that matters in this situation (Hint: Not Nibblewitz or Chest)

Nobody answered my question tho. Did BDA wizards figure out how to dps/tanks figure out how to aggro yet?

Do you really care or are you just trying to stir the pot?

[jcr4990]

Do you really care or are you just trying to stir the pot?

I'd say I'm about 70% trolling 30% genuinely curious. Maybe 60/40? I don't ever remember Wizards being in the top 5. I thought Wizards just sucked til my first OGC raid. Satoshi is #1 regularly and I don't think I've ever seen a parse with a Wizard not in the top 3.

[arsenalpow]

I'd say I'm about 70% trolling 30% genuinely curious. Maybe 60/40? I don't ever remember Wizards being in the top 5. I thought Wizards just sucked til my first OGC raid. Satoshi is #1 regularly and I don't think I've ever seen a parse with a Wizard not in the top 3.

hey guys 4 months ago things in BDA were nothing like they are in OGC currently, BDA is sooooo bad

you're an idiot

[jcr4990]

hey guys 4 months ago things in BDA were nothing like they are in OGC currently, BDA is sooooo bad

you're an idiot

6 hours to clear VT would point to things not changing much since I've been gone. But I'm literally asking if things have changed or not regarding wiz dps or tank threat because obviously I'm not there to see if they have or not. Not sure which was the issue but Wiz should've been much higher than they were. Judging by how often they pulled aggro while still not being near the top I'm guessing it was a threat ceiling issue now that I think about it. I remember everyone constantly bashing Frostmage for pulling aggro and he said our tanks aren't generating enough aggro and everyone made fun of him like what he said was the most absurd thing they ever heard lol. Poor guy. Maybe if the tanks got more AoN's they could tank better. Do any BDA Necro's do respectable DPS? Or has that not changed either?

[bigbard1]

6 hours to clear VT would point to things not changing much since I've been gone. But I'm literally asking if things have changed or not regarding wiz dps or tank threat because obviously I'm not there to see if they have or not. Not sure which was the issue but Wiz should've been much higher than they were. Judging by how often they pulled aggro while still not being near the top I'm guessing it was a threat ceiling issue now that I think about it. I remember everyone constantly bashing Frostmage for pulling aggro and he said our tanks aren't generating enough aggro and everyone made fun of him like what he said was the most absurd thing they ever heard lol. Poor guy. Maybe if the tanks got more AoN's they could tank better. Do any BDA Necro's do respectable DPS? Or has that not changed either?

Rogue, Ranger and Wizard are best dps not in any order because a lot has to depend on savagery grp comps etc. necro are my mind wrack bitches

[jcr4990]

Rogue, Ranger and Wizard are best dps not in any order because a lot has to depend on savagery grp comps etc. necro are my mind wrack bitches

Yea it fluctuates based on available buffs/debuffs. But seems to be generally Wiz > Ranger > Monk/Rog on the average fight from what I've seen. We have 1 really good necro that can compete in the top 3 sometimes. Kinda like I did as necro in BDA. Maybe each guild can only have 1 high dps necro? :P

[Relbaic]

Satoshi is #1 regularly

How bigs his dick?

[Raev]

I'm clueless about how BDA is run? If I was clueless about it I'd probably still be in the guild.

zing

[Raev]

If you want to insult Chest and not come off as an idiot yourself, you'd be better going with old stand-bys such as: "Chest is the biggest asshole on the server." "Chest is a jerk." "Chest is a flaming bag of feces on the doorstep of EverQuest, both emulated and otherwise." "Even Mormon's think Chest is a complete jackass." "The relative size of Chest's genitalia when compared to the national average is sub par."

I laughed! I hope I never make you mad.

[Raev]

You're absolutely clueless about how BDA is run, how we do things, and the speed at which we do them

We roll with about 20-25 for the first 60-90 minutes, and have never once claimed to try and push content out as fast as we can.

Your excuse streams have crossed pals; I suggest a loot council meeting to get your story straight.

[Raev]

QUADRUPLE RAGE POST

[jcr4990]

Your excuse streams have crossed pals; I suggest a loot council meeting to get your story straight.

Lol'd

[Swish]

hey guys 4 months ago things in BDA were nothing like they are in OGC currently, BDA is sooooo bad

you're an idiot

Well BDA is bad, was bad and always will be bad. No need to state the obvious pal. Where you gonna go when the warm bodies all wake up and realize your management is awful?

Next TLP server? Back to P99 under a new identity?

[Swish]

One thing is for certain, your ForumQuest batphone army has dwindled.. you're not packing much weight round these parts no more.

[booter]

thx for double bump

[Valakut]

Well BDA is bad, was bad and always will be bad. No need to state the obvious pal. Where you gonna go when the warm bodies all wake up and realize your management is awful?

Next TLP server? Back to P99 under a new identity?

if you find the answer be sure to let rustle know

[jcr4990]

http://i.imgur.com/uOkEtTf.jpg

Taken from my forum profile page. Shoutout to all my fans. Love u guys <3

[skarlorn]

would not mind if you perished RL honestly

[nostalgiaquest]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_dIbL9QJKE

[Swish]

Hey guys I'm still cool and relevant on a different game, see?

http://i.imgur.com/GLKaof0.jpg

plz like and subscribe for more HotS <3

[khysanth]

http://i.imgur.com/IrQUcJn.jpg

68

[bigbard1]

http://i.imgur.com/IrQUcJn.jpg

68

Odd post.

[booter]

It's not just these forums I get sucked into stupid arguments on Reddit and even youtube comments sometimes.

http://i.imgur.com/uOkEtTf.jpg

Taken from my forum profile page. Shoutout to all my fans. Love u guys <3

nice forumquest #worsethanswish

[kaev]

nice forumquest #worsethanswish

He's been trying lately, but that's a pretty damned low bar to get under. Don't think he's made it yet.

[jcr4990]

He's been trying lately, but that's a pretty damned low bar to get under. Don't think he's made it yet.

I'll keep trying. Maybe when I get full member I'll start posting all the insane gear I get for min dkp and that'll put me over the edge.

[Troubled]

http://i.imgur.com/rOvLmqT.jpg

[jcr4990]

Well look at that just made FM

Get ready for the loot posts guys

[arsenalpow]

Well look at that just made FM

Get ready for the loot posts guys

congrats warm body, way to glom on

[Pumpedup]

Hey guys I'm still cool and relevant on a different game, see?

http://i.imgur.com/GLKaof0.jpg

plz like and subscribe for more HotS <3

better hurry up and activate windows or bill gates will c u real soon

[jcr4990]

congrats warm body, way to glom on

Let's define what "warm body" means here. I've always understood it to mean someone who's just extra fluff and not really vital to the raid's success. When you're rolling 60 deep in VT with 8 clerics I can see how you could make an argument for a couple clerics being warmbodies. When your VT split raid has 38 total players with 4 clerics (One being a box that's not even in the CH rot just rez/buff bot) there's no such thing as a warmbody cleric. Doing things with low numbers demands performance from every single person to succeed. Doing VT with 60 means quite a few warmbodies.

Maybe my definition of warmbody is off?

[bigbard1]

Let's define what "warm body" means here. I've always understood it to mean someone who's just extra fluff and not really vital to the raid's success. When you're rolling 60 deep in VT with 8 clerics I can see how you could make an argument for a couple clerics being warmbodies. When your VT split raid has 38 total players with 4 clerics (One being a box that's not even in the CH rot just rez/buff bot) there's no such thing as a warmbody cleric. Doing things with low numbers demands performance from every single person to succeed. Doing VT with 60 means quite a few warmbodies.

Maybe my definition of warmbody is off?

Chest just got YT'd off the forums

[jcr4990]

http://i.imgur.com/1e29CEA.jpg

Is this good for my first night as a member? Got more/better loot tonight alone than 4 months of raiding in that other guild. Shits cray. BiS Aten BP cost me a pretty penny but totes worth it.

[bigbard1]

http://i.imgur.com/1e29CEA.jpg

Is this good for my first night as a member? Got more/better loot tonight alone than 4 months of raiding in that other guild. Shits cray. BiS Aten BP cost me a pretty penny but totes worth it.

What's this? BDA is fucking shit?

[Raev]

Maybe my definition of warmbody is off?

I have always thought the most amazing thing about Chest was his ability to get his guild to drink the koolaid. Let's tick off the list of his achievements in this area:

Convinced solidly average guild that they were the best guild on the server despite constantly losing to IB/TMO/FE
Convinced said guild that they were the most noble guild on the server despite rule lawyering every time they could
Convinced said guild to follow him to the Dark Side by breaking the rotation, a complete inversion of BDA's original message
Convinced said guild to follow him to a different EQ server, abandoning years of hard-won pixels
Convinced said guild that they were one of the best guilds on said server despite obvious evidence to the contrary

Of course, as an engineer all of this hypocrisy drives me nuts. But it's truly an impressive level of persuasion. I wonder if he read The 48 Laws of Power (
https://48laws-of-power.blogspot.com/2011/05/law-27-play-on-peoples-need-to-believe.html) ?

People have an overwhelming desire to believe in something. Become the focal point of such desire by offering them a cause, a new faith to follow. Keep your words vague but full of promise; emphasize enthusiasm over rationality and clear thinking. Give your new disciples rituals to perform, ask them to make sacrifices on your behalf. In the absence of organized religion and grand causes, your new belief system will bring you untold power.

[Raev]

Robert Green on 5 Ways to Organize Your Cult-Like Following

Find a way both elevating and comforting. (the way of pixels)
Create rituals for your followers. (the raid, the forumquest batphone)
Organize them into a hierarchy, ranking them in grades of sanctity, and giving them names and titles that resound with religious overtones (the officers, loot council, remember Chest's signature with his titles of Destroyer of the Rotation and such?)
Ask them for sacrifices that will fill your coffers and increase your power. (give all loot to officer alts)
To emphasize your gathering's quasi-religious nature, talk and act like a prophet: You are a priest, a guru, a sage, a shaman, or any other word that hides your real power in the mist of religion. (who wants to post BDA forum screenshots?)

[Raev]

Actually, a better example would be how all the officers got a different N.W.O. wrestler.

[Swish]

I like the turn this thread is taking...

[Troubled]

http://i.imgur.com/g0neoiR.jpg

[Swish]

http://i.imgur.com/g0neoiR.jpg

You went to the extra effort to blur that screenshot before snipping that quote off it that may or may not be fabricated?

Post it properly or not at all, don't piss around.

[jcr4990]

I have always thought the most amazing thing about Chest was his ability to get his guild to drink the koolaid. Let's tick off the list of his achievements in this area:

Convinced solidly average guild that they were the best guild on the server despite constantly losing to IB/TMO/FE
Convinced said guild that they were the most noble guild on the server despite rule lawyering every time they could
Convinced said guild to follow him to the Dark Side by breaking the rotation, a complete inversion of BDA's original message
Convinced said guild to follow him to a different EQ server, abandoning years of hard-won pixels
Convinced said guild that they were one of the best guilds on said server despite obvious evidence to the contrary

Of course, as an engineer all of this hypocrisy drives me nuts. But it's truly an impressive level of persuasion. I wonder if he read The 48 Laws of Power (
https://48laws-of-power.blogspot.com/2011/05/law-27-play-on-peoples-need-to-believe.html) ?

It's pretty amazing really. I never really thought about it like that but it's pretty true. Another good example is: "We're a casual guild" - I pointed out how stupid this was on many many occasions. I don't know if they just repeat how casual they are over and over again to justify the lack of performance or if it's because of Chest's deep hatred of the ultra hardcore guilds on P99 and wanting to distance himself from them by lying about being casual. Take it from someone who's been there. There's not a single "casual" aspect of BDA besides having lots of people playing poorly. I don't want to throw blanket statements on all BDA players because there's quite a few that are very good at the game and their class. But unfortunately the mediocre/subpar outweigh the good.

http://i.imgur.com/g0neoiR.jpg

Post the unedited image if you want. I would myself if I had taken a screencap of it before I lost forum access. I don't have anything to hide in what I said.

[AzzarTheGod]

man jcr goes so hard, does chest secretly wish they just gave him the vulak robe?

[Swish]

It's pretty amazing really. I never really thought about it like that but it's pretty true. Another good example is: "We're a casual guild" - I pointed out how stupid this was on many many occasions. I don't know if they just repeat how casual they are over and over again to justify the lack of performance or if it's because of Chest's deep hatred of the ultra hardcore guilds on P99 and wanting to distance himself from them by lying about being casual. Take it from someone who's been there. There's not a single "casual" aspect of BDA besides having lots of people playing poorly. I don't want to throw blanket statements on all BDA players because there's quite a few that are very good at the game and their class. But unfortunately the mediocre/subpar outweigh the good.



Post the unedited image if you want. I would myself if I had taken a screencap of it before I lost forum access. I don't have anything to hide in what I said.

Finally some validation - BDA did not belong in the casual tier, the whole setup was a joke. Just because it takes 80 people for you to down a Trakanon during the Kunark era, doesn't make you "casual"

[Anichek]

Convinced said guild to follow him to the Dark Side by breaking the rotation, a complete inversion of BDA's original message




Lol I know I've spoken/commented candidly on this - but Chest didn't issue the Code Red. There were 4 or 5 of us internally that pushed the issue to revamp or remove ourselves from the Rotation. But, that scab's in place, continue to pick the current injection site for best effects.

[Daldaen]

Lol @ mobs going to the best guild...

Mobs, especially in the Kunark era, went to the nerds with the most level 60 Chardok PLed Alts camped at every dragon location and the most jav spamming FTEers sitting through entire Windows.

[Fasttimes]

Lol @ mobs going to the best guild...

Mobs, especially in the Kunark era, went to the nerds with the most level 60 Chardok PLed Alts camped at every dragon location and the most jav spamming FTEers sitting through entire Windows.

And Velious too, replace that with standing on the line and running and having 60 nerds. EQ isnt hard.

[Troubled]

Post the unedited image if you want. I would myself if I had taken a screencap of it before I lost forum access. I don't have anything to hide in what I said.

That's not edited, it's BDAvision.

[Raev]

Lol I know I've spoken/commented candidly on this - but Chest didn't issue the Code Red. There were 4 or 5 of us internally that pushed the issue to revamp or remove ourselves from the Rotation. But, that scab's in place, continue to pick the current injection site for best effects.

Regardless of who was pushing for it, the fact that your guild didn't collapse under a complete reversal of message (from 'we're the champions of casual' to 'we're going to stomp on every other casual guild') is amazing to me. Maybe I am misplacing the credit though <shrug>

Mobs, especially in the Kunark era, went to the nerds with the most level 60 Chardok PLed Alts camped at every dragon location and the most jav spamming FTEers sitting through entire Windows.

And Velious too, replace that with standing on the line and running and having 60 nerds. EQ isnt hard.

I am hardly one to defend EQ competition and skill, but Classic and early Kunark were definitely better: with 96 hour variance, 700 max server pop, and Chardok in its infancy TMO/BDA actually mobilized for targets. And VP was no CSR, which was retarded but again something that involved skill. So was early Velious, really, before stupid zone pulls sent us back to the poopsocking era.

[maskedmelon]

Lol I know I've spoken/commented candidly on this - but Chest didn't issue the Code Red. There were 4 or 5 of us internally that pushed the issue to revamp or remove ourselves from the Rotation. But, that scab's in place, continue to pick the current injection site for best effects.

I think this only speaks more highly to his exceptional ability to manipulate those who follow him. It is not so easy a thing to sow the seeds of inspiration in another's mind that they blossom completely as the idea hatched in one's own head. Upboats for exceptional cunning.

[bigbard1]

Regardless of who was pushing for it, the fact that your guild didn't collapse under a complete reversal of message (from 'we're the champions of casual' to 'we're going to stomp on every other casual guild') is amazing to me. Maybe I am misplacing the credit though <shrug>





I am hardly one to defend EQ competition and skill, but Classic and early Kunark were definitely better: with 96 hour variance, 700 max server pop, and Chardok in its infancy TMO/BDA actually mobilized for targets. And VP was no CSR, which was retarded but again something that involved skill. So was early Velious, really, before stupid zone pulls sent us back to the poopsocking era.

Who cares what Daldaen the cuck says. The server was ruined with Chardok AE. I am interested in seeing what a new server is like without chardok AE to ruin it.

[Sodors Finest Poster]

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[Daldaen]

And Velious too, replace that with standing on the line and running and having 60 nerds. EQ isnt hard.

EQ was hard in certain expansions. Just not the ones on this server.

The 1-hour lock in time really decreases the need to have multiple 60s all over the place and the larger number of Velious targets spreads them out. Casual guilds have more opportunities to kill targets in Velious to do this, which is why I said especially Kunark.

See the several KTs, and ToV Dragons that Rustle and CSG have gotten with only single or two people racing, then killing it 50 minutes later once they move their guilds over there. Much more friendly than the snap pulls of Kunark days.

[Nibblewitz]

Raev's loot whoring guild didn't even need a reversal of message to fall apart.

[Pumpedup]

unemployment is very strong here

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

It's pretty amazing really. I never really thought about it like that but it's pretty true. Another good example is: "We're a casual guild" - I pointed out how stupid this was on many many occasions. I don't know if they just repeat how casual they are over and over again to justify the lack of performance or if it's because of Chest's deep hatred of the ultra hardcore guilds on P99 and wanting to distance himself from them by lying about being casual. Take it from someone who's been there. There's not a single "casual" aspect of BDA besides having lots of people playing poorly. I don't want to throw blanket statements on all BDA players because there's quite a few that are very good at the game and their class. But unfortunately the mediocre/subpar outweigh the good.



Post the unedited image if you want. I would myself if I had taken a screencap of it before I lost forum access. I don't have anything to hide in what I said.

I do not think you get the casual server strat. It's not about actually being casual, it's about using that term as a wedge to try to divide off the loonies and create at least some space to not be one.

[jcr4990]

That's not edited, it's BDAvision.

Ah well that makes sense

[Man0warr]

Regardless of who was pushing for it, the fact that your guild didn't collapse under a complete reversal of message (from 'we're the champions of casual' to 'we're going to stomp on every other casual guild') is amazing to me. Maybe I am misplacing the credit though <shrug>

It didn't collapse because pretty much everyone in the guild saw the same shit happening for over a year - a select few guilds abusing the system at expense of the bigger guilds (Taken/BDA/Divinity). Not to mention Chest/Anichek gave everyone access to the Rotation boards when it became a lost cause just so people could see the non-stop arguing/whining first hand.

The biggest mistake was agreeing to become the fall guy. Should have had all 3 guilds take part in announcing the rotation failure instead of Chest/Anichek alone - Taken and Divinity wanted it to end just as much or moreso. The proof is on the FAP boards, Chest and Anichek tried to keep the rotation together when it should have died many times before - probably because BDA was the main proponent of it's creation in the first place. They didn't want it to fail.

[Juevento]

I member when we used to argue about who ended the rotation 3 years ago.

[Man0warr]

Yeah exactly. No one but Raev and Swish give a shit at this point.

P99 is working how Nilbog/Rogean/Sirken want it to, and BDA is enjoying raiding when and how they want on another server.

This thread only gets updated now because people are bored at work.

[Ravager]

Yeah exactly. No one but Raev and Swish give a shit at this point.

P99 is working how Nilbog/Rogean/Sirken want it to, and BDA is enjoying raiding when and how they want on another server.

This thread only gets updated now because people are bored at work.
It's been 22 minutes. Bump!

[booter]

bored at work checking in

scheduled casual raid in 2 hours though