BDA to Phinigel

[FatMice]

You could move on from MMOs completely and maybe work on not spending 16 hours a day on a 17 year old games message board.

Or better yet you can have a signature dedicated to someone you don't personally know!

[jcr4990]

You could move on from MMOs completely and maybe work on not spending 16 hours a day on a 17 year old games message board.

Why would I do that?

[Mistle]

Good thing he didn't create a thread in Server Chat making a big deal about his departure, or it might be embarrassing for him when he does come back.

Savage as fuck.

[Raev]

This guy publicly streamed his train wreck life on twitch. So yes we all kind of know him.

and you wish to disguise yourself as a guy with a train wreck of a life . . . why exactly?

[Raev]

when you post that as your signature, the implication is that you are

[xexbis0]

when you post that as your signature, the implication is that you are

Raev you have to group on phinny to level btw. I guess it was designed intentionally that way. That exp sucks and apparently 1-4 sucks period.

[arsenalpow]

Raev you have to group on phinny to level btw. I guess it was designed intentionally that way. That exp sucks and apparently 1-4 sucks period.

Most of BDA went over last Friday. I've been playing a few hours on the weekdays, more on the weekends, I'm level 24. Our lead group of people that play way more are 30-35. As long as you group it flies. I'd say most people are in the 15-20 range.

[Pokesan]

Will BDA be giving up ownership of the subreddit now that they no longer play here?

[jcr4990]

Phinny is a great server if you love RMTing

Or raiding without poop filled socks

[jcr4990]

But mainly being able to buy any item you want for $$$$$$$$$$$

All the goog stuff is no drop tho. Especially later expansions. So not worried.

[Priceline]

But mainly being able to buy any item you want for $$$$$$$$$$$

$$$ pre-nerf fungi staff only 1 krono wut wut $$$

[feanan]

At least on Phinny it's out and the open, and everyone can do it or not, however they feel morally about it.

Here, we all have to pretend it doesn't happen, and all the profits go to a select few.

wut wut

[Paleman]

At least on Phinny it's out and the open, and everyone can do it or not, however they feel morally about it.

Here, we all have to pretend it doesn't happen, and all the profits go to a select few.

wut wut

pretty much this.


it happens anyways, atleast krono gives the player some power to profit from RMTers instead of allowing them to just inflate the value of plat on the server.

[Priceline]

pretty much this.


it happens anyways, atleast krono gives the player some power to profit from RMTers instead of allowing them to just inflate the value of plat on the server.

Plat doesn't gain/lose value (on phinny) with RMTers just existing and doing their thing. It does so by people pressing BUY NOW and a krono is brought into the world then sold for plat or traded for items.

You could argue that a mob dropping an item is basically the same thing, but this krono shit is one the fly. It would be like pressing the Fungi Tunic button and suddenly one shows up in your inventory. Then just do that 1000x times and watch the market fizzle.

[nicemace]

Krono doesn't inflate the market lol. It doesn't introduce any new platform into the economy. You should learn some basic BASIC economics.

[nicemace]

Platform = plat go go phone

[Sodors Finest Poster]

doesn't inflate

http://i.imgur.com/gvz5m8y.gif

[arsenalpow]

Got 5 levels last night in a great lower guk group, 24-29.

[Swish]

Got 5 levels last night in a great lower guk group, 24-29.

so classic and immersive - thanks for reporting in

[Sodors Finest Poster]

Can melee classes gate like on live?

[arsenalpow]

At level 5 you get some skill called Origin. It's a free gate to your home city every 18 minutes or something.

[Gorillas]

At level 5 you get some skill called Origin. It's a free gate to your home city every 18 minutes or something.

Can't you just fuck off? Like really...why are you still here?

[Man0warr]

You sound mad.

[Spit]

What's OP as fuck wanna farm my little heart out

[Ella`Ella]

...It does so by people pressing BUY NOW and a krono is brought into the world then sold for plat or traded for items.

...It would be like pressing the Fungi Tunic button and suddenly one shows up in your inventory. Then just do that 1000x times and watch the market fizzle.

So Phinigal is basically a BDA paradise - they can just push a button on the vending machine and get whatever pixels they want?

[Spyder73]

Necromancers are OP because DOTs stack

Monks are OP because they are on increased fist damage tables and something retarded like 165 DPS with Epic

Enchanters are OP because charming damage is even more broken then it is on P99

[Mistle]

P99s 1-59 game is better. No doubt about it. Live is way too streamlined and pat and solo exp is so bad it might as well not exist, not to mention the pervasive influence of krono everywhere. The only thing live has over p99 is much more badass NPC casters - they will chain heals and nukes way WAY better than the p99 AI. Other than that though, its not better during leveling. Good zones are crowded, groups are very cliquey, apots off their version of the beaten path can be very uneven in exp.

Different story at endgame though, where it is literally not even physically possible to be worse than p99.

[Spit]

Necromancers are OP because DOTs stack

Monks are OP because they are on increased fist damage tables and something retarded like 165 DPS with Epic

Enchanters are OP because charming damage is even more broken then it is on P99

Necro dots stack here too unless you mean I can spam the same dot over and over
And it'll stack?

[arsenalpow]

Necro dots stack here too unless you mean I can spam the same dot over and over
And it'll stack?

Each necro can have splurt active on a raid mob etc etc.

[xexbis0]

Necro dots stack here too unless you mean I can spam the same dot over and over
And it'll stack?

I'm assuming they mean the same necro dots can stack from different necros? I will test with my uber disease cloud tonight though.

23/26 fist damage on monk epic? Are there any rogues on the server? They don't even get beefed up AA wise in Luclin really compared to other classes that were severely behind in DPS. That ratio is pretty much good til late PoP.

[Gorillas]

You sound mad.

Do you lick Chest's butthole when Trololololol is blowing him or do you wait until he's done?

[Nibblewitz]

Do you lick Chest's butthole when Trololololol is blowing him or do you wait until he's done?

project much?

[arsenalpow]

Is chest employed or is he someone I'm paying for to sit on their ass and live in fantasy land all day?

I work for a govt contractor for an army depot located on a naval base 0600-1430 Monday - Friday.

[Gimp]

I work for a govt contractor for an army depot located on a naval base 0600-1430 Monday - Friday.

What state? My dad has worked for the Seabees for 30+ years

[arsenalpow]

What state? My dad has worked for the Seabees for 30+ years

I'm in Texas, the best state.

[khysanth]

I'm in Texas, the best state.

Oh no you didn't

[arsenalpow]

Oh no you didn't

Cali turned on you yesterday! Your poor bike!

[Nihilist_santa]

I work for a govt contractor for an army depot located on a naval base 0600-1430 Monday - Friday.

No needed to try to jazz things up. You work in a warehouse.

[arsenalpow]

No needed to try to jazz things up. You work in a warehouse.

Nah dawg, financial analyst.

[Nihilist_santa]

Nah dawg, financial analyst.

You and your euphemisms. So data entry? Cashier?

[indiscriminate_hater]

financial analyst

http://i.imgur.com/pByO1nU.jpg

[arsenalpow]

You and your euphemisms. So data entry? Cashier?

I track production, manpower, budget, etc of many different program lines and report out as needed. Lots of excel and access.

[arsenalpow]

Sounds like my job. Boring as fuck!

Which is why I have time to post to dumb elf sim boards from my phone.

[jcr4990]

So Phinigal is basically a BDA paradise - they can just push a button on the vending machine and get whatever pixels they want?

I know right? Fuckin BDA. Wanting pixels without wallstaring 16 hours straight 10+ times a week. Entitled pieces of shit.

[snergle]

Are zerks in on phiney or do I have to wait until god?

[arsenalpow]

Are zerks in on phiney or do I have to wait until god?

Classes and races are expansion locked to the appropriate expansion. So no beast lords or zerkers or spacecats or frogfucks yet.

[snergle]

gross zerks and frogs are the best.

[Ella`Ella]

I know right? Fuckin BDA. Wanting pixels without wallstaring 16 hours straight 10+ times a week. Entitled pieces of shit.

It's disgusting. You know how many walls at I had to stare at for my pixels?

Earn it.

[Ella`Ella]

Nah dawg, financial analyst.

I got love for the Financial Analysts, dawg. FP&A?

[arsenalpow]

I got love for the Financial Analysts, dawg. FP&A?

Def not certified.

[Nihilist_santa]

Yeah you know how the government likes to let non-certified contractors handle their finances. You had to pass background checks and security clearances but they didn't check your credentials. Love these forum blowhards when they start letting out pieces of RL info. The cracks start to appear in their e-facade.

[arsenalpow]

Yeah you know how the government likes to let non-certified contractors handle their finances. You had to pass background checks and security clearances but they didn't check your credentials. Love these forum blowhards when they start letting out pieces of RL info. The cracks start to appear in their e-facade.

lol I don't really care if you believe me or not, the government is always about background checks and clearances (I don't need one, only at public trust level, but I have a CAC card) but experience can always but substituted for education/certs

[Cecily]

Legitimately sorry to see you guys go. Hope you're having fun over there, BDA.

[Nihilist_santa]

lol I don't really care if you believe me or not, the government is always about background checks and clearances (I don't need one, only at public trust level, but I have a CAC card) but experience can always but substituted for education/certs

You must be in your 60s. Those are the people who get grandfathered in without certs and education. Its 2016 and your story is full of shit.

[Samoht]

A lot more people are realizing that certifications are virtually worthless since they only test your ability to test and not your ability to own or maintain a process.

[Nihilist_santa]

A lot more people are realizing that certifications are virtually worthless since they only test your ability to test and not your ability to own or maintain a process.

I think it depends on the work. He is talking about work that usually requires a master or at the least a BA on top of certifications but then again he is full of shit which is why he is leaving.

[khanable]

A lot more people are realizing that certifications are virtually worthless since they only test your ability to test and not your ability to own or maintain a process.

Bunch of fucking Indians brain dumping shit

At least that was the IT world back when I used to do that shit

[Samoht]

Bunch of fucking Indians brain dumping shit

At least that was the IT world back when I used to do that shit

Exactly. I once had a tech brag about completing the exam for Exchange 2007 in less than 8 minutes. And he didn't even bother to get any of the answers wrong. If he reported to me, I almost would have fired him on the spot for breaching ethics, but it's not his fault Microsoft only had a single version of the test out.

[maurilax]

Different story at endgame though, where it is literally not even physically possible to be worse than p99.

Didnt read the rest of the thread.

[dafier]

..., but don't ever ever ever think about actually raiding. It's cancerous.

Why I stopped to bother with it back in December. Glad you all are having fun on Phinny. Co-worker of mine is trying to get me on there.

[dafier]

2002 isn't bad either if you need a fix. Boxing isn't a requirement and over all it's easy to level up and fun.

[maurilax]

2002 isn't bad either if you need a fix. Boxing isn't a requirement and over all it's easy to level up and fun.

me and a buddy got a group of 6 to low 50s, in the end we couldnt deal with the client. maybe someday though

[Alenon]

I really wanted to do phinny and tried it for a day but I couldn't get over how slow the grind was. Level 2 and I felt like it was a hell level. Like a full days grind just to get from 1-3

[jcr4990]

I really wanted to do phinny and tried it for a day but I couldn't get over how slow the grind was. Level 2 and I felt like it was a hell level. Like a full days grind just to get from 1-3

1-5 is like the worst part. Getting a group makes a SIGNIFICANT difference. Solo xp is bad.

[Sodors Finest Poster]

The first phase of level 1-4 "rat hunter 3d" is boring enough.

[dafier]

I really wanted to do phinny and tried it for a day but I couldn't get over how slow the grind was. Level 2 and I felt like it was a hell level. Like a full days grind just to get from 1-3

That's the one thing that's keeping me from playing. I remember classic grinding and I just don't have the time nor the patience. And, IMO it should be free. But I guess if you have tons of spare time, then it's cheap entertainment.

[Bazia]

im getting less than 1% exp per kill at level 2

what the fuck is this shit

[xexbis0]

im getting less than 1% exp per kill at level 2

what the fuck is this shit

It is painfully dumb lol. You need to group up and kill higher level mobs. Apparently solo exp AND blue mob exp is shit.

[Swish]

Sounds really immersive and accurate to classic EverQuest, glad you're all having a fun time and are looking forward to a fun future on the server.

Please check in again tomorrow :)

[Spyder73]

I quit Phinny at level 53 or 54 because I realized the dog sh!t XP rates were similar to P99 at that level range. I just can't do it...at least P99 is locked and what I do won't be obsolete in a few months...Other than that the server is pretty fun. I think picking monk again was my first mistake, may try a BeastLord at some point if BDA will accept my application.

[Swish]

I quit Phinny at level 53 or 54 because I realized the dog sh!t XP rates were similar to P99 at that level range. I just can't do it...at least P99 is locked and what I do won't be obsolete in a few months...Other than that the server is pretty fun. I think picking monk again was my first mistake, may try a BeastLord at some point if BDA will accept my application.

If you'll sign the encyclopedia sized agreement about giving pixels back if you leave the guild I'm sure you'll be welcome...or is that not a thing on Phinny?

[Pokesan]

Nah, ur a fucking loser hang urself pls.

woah!! this guys a loose cannon!

[Man0warr]

The exp is much faster than P99, if you group.

[Swish]

The exp is much faster than P99, if you group.

So its like the red xp bonus here?

try red first

[Bazia]

i just uninstalled, spending 8 hours grinding through level 3 kinda killed some of my enthusiasm

[Hoozi]

you could spend $8 like most of the bda guys and just buy two sick weapons and wreck.

two weapons for $8? what are they buying for $8?

[Gimp]

i just uninstalled, spending 8 hours grinding through level 3 kinda killed some of my enthusiasm

I kinda like that it's not super faceroll xp like p99. Encourages grouping, even at super low level.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

"Next time will be different"

-- everyone who gives Daybreak money

[Raev]

i just uninstalled, spending 8 hours grinding through level 3 kinda killed some of my enthusiasm

you filthy casual

[Ella`Ella]

A Krono. which no idea how much plat it is worth now but you could buy 2 very good weapons for that.

You can either have a good MMO or a free MMO.

[Swish]

"Next time will be different"

-- everyone who gives Daybreak money

hehehe

[arsenalpow]

Phinny isn't perfect, but so far it's fun, and there's an actual path of progression for a casual raiding guild. /shrug

[Swish]

you could spend $8 like most of the bda guys and just buy two sick weapons and wreck.

http://i.imgur.com/Z0C6JWn.gif

[Pokesan]

it's a sin to enjoy anything that isn't classic everquest

[Swish]

I'm just amused that they're RMT'ing pixels...shows they "mean it" when it comes to walking away from P99.

The masses haven't followed them, near 1200 on at the moment. Looking forward to more updates tomorrow.

[Relbaic]

i just uninstalled, spending 8 hours grinding through level 3 kinda killed some of my enthusiasm

You're kinda bad then.

[Alenon]

started on it again today, much better when grouped, instantly grouped with 3 other level 1's and got to 5 in 2 hours.

[Mistle]

I'm just amused that they're RMT'ing pixels...shows they "mean it" when it comes to walking away from P99.

The masses haven't followed them, near 1200 on at the moment. Looking forward to more updates tomorrow.

A year ago, while still stuck in Kunark, it was over 1500. There are people from multiple guilds joining BDA right now. Others are just plain quitting. They may not go to Live (and its definitely not for everyone), but the snowball of quitting P99 continues to pick up steam.

[JurisDictum]

It's a shame to watch more of that old aristocratic Kunark Platinum retire.

[JurisDictum]

Seriously though, you guys should join Aftermath if you a ride:

7416

[Teddie1056]

I'm really enjoying everyone here freaking out that Chest is having fun.

FUN!?!?! WHO THE FUCK DOES THIS TO HAVE FUN!?!?!

[Alenon]

ok adv looting has to go, ive shut it off in 4 different methods everyone says, i still get the pop ups, and i crash constantly

[jcr4990]

If you play Phinny start grouping at level 1. Don't try to solo and quit cause lvl 1 soloing is too hard. Groups are everywhere. EQ wasn't designed to be a solo game anyway. We're all just so used to P99 where your exp goes down the shitter every time you're in a group of more than 2-3. Things are different here. They aren't classic. Lots of classic shit sucks lets be real.

[Gorillas]

A year ago, while still stuck in Kunark, it was over 1500. There are people from multiple guilds joining BDA right now. Others are just plain quitting. They may not go to Live (and its definitely not for everyone), but the snowball of quitting P99 continues to pick up steam.

Good, I hope all you assholes with 5 max toons quit so a fresh crop of gamers can enjoy the server. The server you assholes are ruining with your neckbeard play styles

[Swish]

A year ago, while still stuck in Kunark, it was over 1500. There are people from multiple guilds joining BDA right now. Others are just plain quitting. They may not go to Live (and its definitely not for everyone), but the snowball of quitting P99 continues to pick up steam.

Some of BDA quitting for Phinny hasn't impacted the server pop here since they left.

I think I can make a bigger snowball out of the ice in my freezer than the one you're describing.

[Swish]

If you play Phinny start grouping at level 1. Don't try to solo and quit cause lvl 1 soloing is too hard. Groups are everywhere. EQ wasn't designed to be a solo game anyway. We're all just so used to P99 where your exp goes down the shitter every time you're in a group of more than 2-3. Things are different here. They aren't classic. Lots of classic shit sucks lets be real.

Yeah you're right, I don't play for the nostalgia or the leveling community on P99, that really sucks... I'd rather RMT some weapons on an instanced progression server and report in daily telling everyone how great it is.

PS - the raid scene didnt change yet...I'm sure something is on the table tho...










:o

[Lammy]

LOL actually it looks like population is up since these guys mad quit for chronos and 5 lvls per night. should see maximum pixels over there soon

[Troubled]

Double rage post & zergling post, thx for share.

[Mistle]

Some of BDA quitting for Phinny hasn't impacted the server pop here since they left.

You're simply objectively wrong. Shrug. Pretty funny seeing how hot and bothered you still get by BDA though. You'll always be its bitch....

[Sodors Finest Poster]

So how is the cesspool known as the ragefire server these days? Does anyone play there that isnt 5-6 boxing magicians?

http://i.imgur.com/chuJ2FX.png

[Swish]

You're simply objectively wrong. Shrug. Pretty funny seeing how hot and bothered you still get by BDA though. You'll always be its bitch....

Why am I wrong? Server pop hasn't declined since they left... so much for the mass exodus lawl

Still 17 days to get the "mad of the month" award - Ravager was on course but you're looking like a real competitor here.

[Sodors Finest Poster]

http://i.imgur.com/CQ3q272.jpg

[Spyder73]

Nah, ur a fucking loser hang urself pls.

Come try R99 today! Be a part of the community!

[radditsu]

Swish mad.

[Swish]

I'm mad that some of the top brass in a guild that shit up the Kunark casual raid scene left because the staff wouldn't give them a new rotation or welfare pixels?

Naw, I think that's the funniest thing that's happened this year :D ... like its some kind of tactic to try and implement change. If it wasn't we wouldn't be getting daily updates about what they RMT'd today and how much fun they say they're having.

Server pop is holding, their influence (what little they had after the welfare pixels dried up) is weakening.

Bet Relbaic is having a great time at the moment at least... I wonder if the people that were kissing up for loot council pixels start to see less, and maybe new recruits can get in on the 1/2 ration pixels that are left.

[Pokesan]

jesus. shame on you BDA. you must have done something awful to so thoroughly break Swish's mind like this.

[Ravager]

Still 17 days to get the "mad of the month" award - Ravager was on course but you're looking like a real competitor here.

Says the guy who can't go one day without anonymously talking shit about other people on an internet forum.

[Man0warr]

I think he was in Moonlight Crusaders or Europa when the rotation broke up after a year, a few months before Velious.

Let it go, it didn't matter then and it definitely doesn't now.

[Juevento]

I think he was in Moonlight Crusaders or Europa when the rotation broke up after a year, a few months before Velious.

Let it go, it didn't matter then and it definitely doesn't now.

Asgard is still butt hurt as fuck about the rotation ending. I mean we shit up their TMO alt loot party and they will harbor that shit for life.

[ArumTP]

Asgard is still butt hurt as fuck about the rotation ending. I mean we shit up their TMO alt loot party and they will harbor that shit for life.

only 2 troll hards sill still give a fuck Swish and Tekilya.

I still think its funny that BDA members still believe that Asgard was a TMO alt guild, then their guild had to disband and reform because there were so many TMO alts in their own guild

[arsenalpow]

only 2 troll hards sill still give a fuck Swish and Tekilya.

I still think its funny that BDA members still believe that Asgard was a TMO alt guild, then their guild had to disband and reform because there were so many TMO alts in their own guild

Ya, our bad for being friendly and accepting most people. I guess we never thought that psychopaths would plant spies in the guild and on the forums. That's totally normal and sane behavior from well balanced people. FuckMeRight.jpeg

[Ragnaros]

Chest as the guild leader of Tempest i would be willing to sponsor your guild on red and set you right up for the future. Let me know

[Mistle]

Swish mad.

[Spyder73]

only 2 troll hards sill still give a fuck Swish and Tekilya.

I still think its funny that BDA members still believe that Asgard was a TMO alt guild, then their guild had to disband and reform because there were so many TMO alts in their own guild

Only reason I am salty now is because Chest keeps denying my applications to join the guild - starting to hurt my feels IRL

[Swish]

Shit they batphoned this thread hard in the last hour :o

[Troubled]

^Yikes doesn't know what US work hours are.

[Relbaic]

Only reason I am salty now is because Chest keeps denying my applications to join the guild - starting to hurt my feels IRL

It's weird, you'd think the worst guild on the server would also want to have the worst story teller.

You'd probably make us sound like competent raiders.

[sirelothar]

Try Phinny today!

[Swish]

^Yikes doesn't know what US work hours are.

People dont check forums from work? Tune into reality wont you?

[Troubled]

People dont check forums from work? Tune into reality wont you?

That's what I just said, exactly?

Weirdo.

[arsenalpow]

Only reason I am salty now is because Chest keeps denying my applications to join the guild - starting to hurt my feels IRL

You've been an awful cunt for months, why do you think I'd let you tag up? You haven't even apologized.

[Raev]

damn, and I was planning to app BDA too

[arsenalpow]

damn, and I was planning to app BDA too

You'd have to make nice with Anthrax. Y'all never got along.

[Raev]

Anthrax needs to spend more time with his kids :(

[arsenalpow]

Anthrax needs to spend more time with his kids :(

His kid is a chip off the block, we hear him in the background of vent telling other kids how bad they are at CoD or whatever it is that kids play. Anthrax is so proud.

[dafier]

The exp is much faster than P99, if you group.

Best way to grind in classic was grouping. BY far. Only class that can say otherwise is Necro.

Sure, druids/wizards can quad and chanters can charm kill, but nothing is more efficient than grouping. It's what the game is about anyway.

Phinny would be a great escape from the P99 toxic raiding environment. Just bummed out that I don't have time for it.

[zanderklocke]

You'd have to make nice with Anthrax. Y'all never got along.

Were they in VD together?

[Jfertal]

I'm just amused that they're RMT'ing pixels...shows they "mean it" when it comes to walking away from P99.

The masses haven't followed them, near 1200 on at the moment. Looking forward to more updates tomorrow.

But you said BDA wa s agiant zerg, shouldnt the server population only be like 400 if they all moved over to phinny?

[drktmplr12]

i love that this thread has 42 pages in 1 week. that's 50 posts per day.

you know who is actually having fun playing EQ?















BDA

ironic isn't it?

[Hastley]

Jesus Christ swish what is in your vagina that has you so upset? P99 will continue to exist. Why are you so mad that people you hate are playing something they enjoy? Disclaimer: don't like chest either but seriously sack up swish . Them playing on another server has 0 impact on you .

[Pokesan]

Swish mad.

[Alenon]

I thought about apping, but it still says you gotta be 51, maybe in a year or so :P

[Spyder73]

Jesus Christ swish what is in your vagina that has you so upset? P99 will continue to exist. Why are you so mad that people you hate are playing something they enjoy? Disclaimer: don't like chest either but seriously sack up swish . Them playing on another server has 0 impact on you .

Swish imagines himself as a forum superhero, and every superhero needs a super-villain, and it just so turns out that Chest makes a good super-villain because of how active he is on the forums and his unapologetic attitude towards doing what he feels is best for his crew of man-children known as BDA.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Swish imagines himself as a forum superhero, and every superhero needs a super-villain, and it just so turns out that Chest makes a good super-villain because of how active he is on the forums and his unapologetic attitude towards doing what he feels is best for his crew of man-children known as BDA.

You wouldn't be so smug if you enjoyed free pizza and juiceboxes after every raid, like we do in BDA. Chest rules!

[LostCause]

confirmed RPT.

[Swish]

Swish imagines himself as a forum superhero, and every superhero needs a super-villain, and it just so turns out that Chest makes a good super-villain because of how active he is on the forums and his unapologetic attitude towards doing what he feels is best for his crew of man-children known as BDA.

That post is as bad as the stories you write.

I'm just another poster on the forums, here to keep the truth in tact and the BDA spin department at bay. You should always tell the truth on the internet, particularly when there's logs of what you type.

Truth: BDA collapsed the Class R rotation.

Spin: Divinity did it, BDA just decided to leave after that.


Truth: BDA is a sinking ship without welfare pixels, numbers are down and people are making better guild choices when leveling. Loot council members don't get the respect/ass kissing they used to get and it's not as gratifying for them to raid.

Spin: BDA leadership aren't gone, they're just having fun elsewhere...more fun than you, you and YOU. Who cares if they RMT and play with terrible mechanics, it's all about fun.


You'd be amazed at the bullshit they'd try to sell you if you didn't know better. They've been the Fox News of P99.

[Ella`Ella]

Swish reporting just the facts; doing God's Work.

Fair and Balanced.

[Raev]

ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?

[burkemi5]

Swish why are you so hung up on the class rotation bullshit? Wasn't that like literally two years ago? At this point you're reaching Harrison vs TMO status level of stalkerness.

[Ravager]

Swish why are you so hung up on the class rotation bullshit? Wasn't that like literally two years ago? At this point you're reaching Harrison vs TMO status level of stalkerness.

Except Harrison eventually left.

[Mistle]

That post is as bad as the stories you write.

I'm just another poster on the forums, here to keep the truth in tact and the BDA spin department at bay. You should always tell the truth on the internet, particularly when there's logs of what you type.

Truth: BDA collapsed the Class R rotation.

Spin: Divinity did it, BDA just decided to leave after that.


Truth: BDA is a sinking ship without welfare pixels, numbers are down and people are making better guild choices when leveling. Loot council members don't get the respect/ass kissing they used to get and it's not as gratifying for them to raid.

Spin: BDA leadership aren't gone, they're just having fun elsewhere...more fun than you, you and YOU. Who cares if they RMT and play with terrible mechanics, it's all about fun.


You'd be amazed at the bullshit they'd try to sell you if you didn't know better. They've been the Fox News of P99.

I don't think I've ever seen a post more succinctly showing that Swish, in the end, does not know a single fuck about what he is talking about.

Not. One. Fuck.

[Hodge]

^^

If you aren't playing a game for a fun...than why do you play? seems like a waste of time to stare at a wall and count the seconds till a pop...then RUN at it for a tag, lol..what? enjoy that...

[jcr4990]

But you said BDA wa s agiant zerg, shouldnt the server population only be like 400 if they all moved over to phinny?

I got a good lol out of this too. Swish is a walking contradiction.

"BDA is a zerg!"

BDA leaves the server

"Server pop unaffected"

Logic is stronk in this one.

[jcr4990]

Who cares if they RMT and play with terrible mechanics, it's all about fun.

You make a list of shitty things about Phinny and I'll make a list of shitty things about P99 and we can compare them. Wanna place bets which list is longer?

[Samoht]

Hey do you guys remember when Swish was terrible at WoW and bitched about geting PvPed on Nostalrius? Pepperidge Farms remembers.

[Mistle]

He's pretty much functionally retarded. He still thinks this is a "protest" and BDA will come back if it just gets some raid rule crumbs thrown its way. I mean we're talking about someone who still hasn't realized there was never going to be a rotation after Velious was released. Not exactly a paragon of perception...

He'll probably be the last one to realize BDA isn't coming back no matter what. The guild is gone. The infrastructure is gone as far as p99 is concerned and most the minority remainder who didn't move to Live are splitting in every direction. This isn't a protest. This is the guild saying "fuck you" to the endgame and going where things are a LOT better. It's not going to CARE if the raid rules get changed now. Too little, too late, too many people have seen how things can be so much better.

Maybe he's just jealous that BDA's internal community was strong enough to do a move like this and stay intact.

Never a better time to come to Phinny, guys. Velious is imminent, all the classes are viable, you have plenty of time to level to 60 before needing to worry about Luclin and raiding. Ditch this shitshow, leave it to the spergelords like Swish and come have some actual fun.

[Pokesan]

He's pretty much functionally retarded. He still thinks this is a "protest" and BDA will come back if it just gets some raid rule crumbs thrown its way. I mean we're talking about someone who still hasn't realized there was never going to be a rotation after Velious was released. Not exactly a paragon of perception...

He'll probably be the last one to realize BDA isn't coming back no matter what. The guild is gone.


ok then BDA please stop posting. your opinion is no longer relevant because you don't fucking play here.

thanks

[Troubled]

[/B]

ok then BDA please stop posting. your opinion is no longer relevant because you don't fucking play here.

thanks

I don't think 90% of the regular posters actually play.

[Pokesan]

I don't think 90% of the regular posters actually play.

this is an outrage

[jcr4990]

I don't think 90% of the regular posters actually play.

Ya pretty sure 1/2 this forum doesn't actively play P99

[Swish]

2 pages of mads being mad about me being apparently mad :o

[Hastley]

Ya pretty sure 1/2 this forum doesn't actively play P99

Because p99 is boring .

[Troubled]

2 pages of mads being mad about me being apparently mad :o

What a great delusion.

[central scrutinizer]

2 pages of mads being mad about me being apparently mad :o

I honestly do hope that you are just generally mad and looking to blow off steam at the expense of some strangers, because the alternative is that you are an extremely sick person who has fallen through the cracks of whatever healthcare system you are subject to.

[Nibblewitz]

I honestly do hope that you are just generally mad and looking to blow off steam at the expense of some strangers, because the alternative is that you are an extremely sick person who has fallen through the cracks of whatever healthcare system you are subject to.

Bregan D'Aspergers is a real condition, dude.

[Swish]

I honestly do hope that you are just generally mad and looking to blow off steam at the expense of some strangers, because the alternative is that you are an extremely sick person who has fallen through the cracks of whatever healthcare system you are subject to.

sorry, you are?

(another anon forum account)

[Faywind]

sorry, you are?

(another anon forum account)

This is usually the response neckbeards give when they have nothing witty or intelligent to say.

Didn't you retire? Or did you go back to red so you could play with the other 14 people over there :rolleyes:

[Farzo]

This is usually the response neckbeards give when they have nothing witty or intelligent to say.

Didn't you retire? Or did you go back to red so you could play with the other 14 people over there :rolleyes:

swish played it smart coz he now jumps the 100 man que for a rygorr bp on blue... to farming 5 for his toons he plays.

[Farzo]

he also engaging with the average 5-10 people most people on eq engage with also while raiding a a set time.

the other 1000 players on blue that are irrelevant to you ( unless ur plat farmer ) then suddenly dont matter.

[Farzo]

engages**

[Doctor Jeff]

Ya pretty sure 1/2 this forum doesn't actively play P99

I'd agree with Troubled that its much closer to 90% than 50%

[Oleris]

fungi staff able to be used by necros?

[jcr4990]

fungi staff able to be used by necros?

Yes

I have one

It's amazeballs

[burkemi5]

sorry, you are?

(another anon forum account)

No one on these boards is anyone important. Don't act like because you live on here it means you're more important than some dude who browses rnf casually.

[Troubled]

No one on these boards is anyone important. Don't act like because you live on here it means you're more important than some dude who browses rnf casually.

Yikes this dude nailed it(swish sucks at fq but hangs because he is fed for entertainment.) You always get crushed but keep on comin back. Good on you. Trial by error.

[Swish]

Nothing better than the cowards firing shots on anon accounts. I could do the same but I have a spine and stand behind what I post.

Sorry for having some integrity :o

[Mistle]

Nothing better than the cowards firing shots on anon accounts. I could do the same but I have a spine and stand behind what I post.

Sorry for having some integrity :o

Who are you again?

[Swish]

Who are you again?

P99s #1 Forum poster
Author/OP of numerous quality threads
Entertainer
GIF poster
Writer of the 1-50 cleric solo guide
Occasional streamer

http://i.imgur.com/0XL3EHd.png



Nice to meet you, account 89870 <3

[Mistle]

And this makes you less anonymous... how again?

[Swish]

http://i.imgur.com/cbTIv3y.gif

ok now your turn

[Swish]

cat got your tongue? okay...

In the meantime:-

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2274550&postcount=1719

http://i.imgur.com/wLFJO5D.gif

RIP BDA - great guild in 2010-2011.

[Mistle]

So a throwaway character shiwing no guild on a different server than the board is even for means you're less anonymous?

[Swish]

I don't believe I caught your IGN :o

[Hastley]

P99s #1 Forum poster
Author/OP of numerous quality threads
Entertainer
GIF poster
Writer of the 1-50 cleric solo guide
Occasional streamer

http://i.imgur.com/0XL3EHd.png



Nice to meet you, account 89870 <3

Swish you're a good enough forum pal but delusional of you think that list of accomplishments makes you important in the world (no one important on elf sim forums)

[Swish]

A jiffy later....

http://i.imgur.com/nm73VVs.png

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1813587&postcount=6

http://i.imgur.com/AohzlWQ.png


It's another BDA mad... stay mad lol

[Swish]

What's funny is we grouped in lower guk once while you were leveling your cleric... you didn't seem so bad.

[Relbaic]

What's funny is we grouped in lower guk once while you were leveling your cleric... you didn't seem so bad.

How is that funny?

Lets try this, you know who I am. Your obsession with BDA is pathetic and listing off your "accomplishments" means absolutely nothing to anyone but yourself. Find a new hobby because you're a one trick pony when it comea to RnF.

[Swish]

How is that funny?

Lets try this, you know who I am. Your obsession with BDA is pathetic and listing off your "accomplishments" means absolutely nothing to anyone but yourself. Find a new hobby because you're a one trick pony when it comea to RnF.

I remember you leveling in KC, Relbaic Sandwich... thought it was a bad surname.

You seem quite upset about BDA folding, I can understand the emotion.

[Swish]

Why not form up a new guild from the remnants of BDA instead of tilting in RNF?

[k2summit]

Swishypoo, you are just straight up annoying now. 2 years ago it was funny to see you rustle BDA's feathers just for the lulz. Twas good forum entertainment. You are literally still doing the exact same shit but with some sort of weird vendetta now. Along with a please validate me retirement post, and a triumphant return, its super cringeworthy.

[Mistle]

I don't believe I caught your IGN :o

But you did. You looked it up two weeks ago and even posted it here, for whatever that is worth. Its not something I hide, I just dont care about it like you do.

You seem to think it is "gutless" to not make sure everyone knows your in game name at all times posting here, which means you think you are "braver" by having your identity known. But you have nothing on the line at all. You dont put up a blue guild or character and your claimed main is on a dead server not even meant for this board, sniping away at those who do. What repercussions could you possibly have for people knowing who you are?

You are like the guy in the crowd who only plays online tournaments with pretend money heckling World Series of Poker players for not betting hard enough.

[Gimp]

Why not form up a new guild from the remnants of BDA instead of tilting in RNF?

Because they're joining other guilds you dickless pleb

[Swish]

Because they're joining other guilds you dickless pleb

That can only be good for server health I suppose.

[Swish]

Swishypoo, you are just straight up annoying now. 2 years ago it was funny to see you rustle BDA's feathers just for the lulz. Twas good forum entertainment. You are literally still doing the exact same shit but with some sort of weird vendetta now. Along with a please validate me retirement post, and a triumphant return, its super cringeworthy.

There's no vendetta, just a responsibility to keeping the truth in tact and not letting the (former) BDA spin department sell you a revised version of history with regard to how they shit on the casual tier raid rotation during the end of Kunark.

I pounded them with the truth for a long time, outnumbered and outgunned... but I persisted, they got mad.

Velious hits, they want raid concessions... and of course they no longer have any credibility or guaranteed pixels, so they swan off to Phinigel.

Feels good to see the guild name off P99. Good luck to them on Phinny, and I hope those that stayed will adjust to life in new guilds with a better approach to pixels <3

[jcr4990]

There's no vendetta, just a responsibility to keeping the truth in tact and not letting the (former) BDA spin department sell you a revised version of history with regard to how they shit on the casual tier raid rotation during the end of Kunark.

I pounded them with the truth for a long time, outnumbered and outgunned... but I persisted, they got mad.

Velious hits, they want raid concessions... and of course they no longer have any credibility or guaranteed pixels, so they swan off to Phinigel.

Feels good to see the guild name off P99. Good luck to them on Phinny, and I hope those that stayed will adjust to life in new guilds with a better approach to pixels <3

Are you literally retarded?

[Swish]

Are you literally retarded?

No, but I think you are. Any new threads on your dead subreddit this week?


I'll just leave Chest's BDA forum sig here, for historical purposes:-

http://i.imgur.com/3Bingwu.png

[Spyder73]

No, but I think you are. Any new threads on your dead subreddit this week?


I'll just leave Chest's BDA forum sig here, for historical purposes:-

http://i.imgur.com/3Bingwu.png

Actually pretty good sig....GG swishy

[jcr4990]

No, but I think you are. Any new threads on your dead subreddit this week?


I'll just leave Chest's BDA forum sig here, for historical purposes:-

http://i.imgur.com/3Bingwu.png

See.. You say no but every single post you make screams yes (especially this one) so idk what to believe anymore :(

[Mistle]

There's no vendetta, just a responsibility to keeping the truth in tact and not letting the (former) BDA spin department sell you a revised version of history with regard to how they shit on the casual tier raid rotation during the end of Kunark.

I pounded them with the truth for a long time, outnumbered and outgunned... but I persisted, they got mad.

Velious hits, they want raid concessions... and of course they no longer have any credibility or guaranteed pixels, so they swan off to Phinigel.

Feels good to see the guild name off P99. Good luck to them on Phinny, and I hope those that stayed will adjust to life in new guilds with a better approach to pixels <3

So basically... you're mad.

[Swish]

How did you get "you're mad" that from that?

Which guild are you applying to?

[Raev]

http://i.imgur.com/3Bingwu.png

Chest is all that is hypocritical. But this sig is pretty decent. Looks like a Trollolololololol did it?

[jcr4990]

Chest is all that is hypocritical. But this sig is pretty decent. Looks like a Trollolololololol did it?

Joke went way above Swish's head. No not my work. Not sure who did it. It's solid though for sure.

[Mistle]

How did you get "you're mad" that from that?

How do you not? Its like pure tantrum. For all your talk of "outnumbered and outgunned" you actually post about three times as much as every BDA member combined. Full blown rage, except most people, like, get over it at some point.

I'm not apping to any guild. The game is done theres nothing left to anticipate. I was only ever around to help bda bros get their stuff and do earthquakes. Now I dont need to, even got some divinitybros and anonbros who have left the shithole and the spergelords for some actual fun. BDA moving has been nothing but positive for me. I wouldnt come back even if the raid rules changed entirely in my favor.

[Swish]

90% of the hate I get comes from BDA...and its not hard to see why. The directed traffic to this thread over the last couple of days has been fun, but you still seem emotionally invested in a server you've apparently left.

Good luck in the new pixel lines, be sure to check in here daily like everyone else who left o/

See you back here after PoP progression, or sooner :)

[jcr4990]

See you back here after PoP progression, or sooner :)

So in like 2 years? Yea idk maybe. Prolly just quit EQ or go to a diff prog server. Maybe P99 won't have extreme out of control poopsocking in 2+ years?

Hahahaha jk. Of course it will.

[sirelothar]

Thanks for the well wishes everyone. BDA on Phinny is doing great and from what I'd wager we'll be ready to slay dragons within 2-3 months tops! My in game name is Prison (I like gay sex, sue me) so feel free to message me and chit chat!

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/4e/5c/f7/4e5cf7d4ccb9c59b6620a9c71944d51e.jpg

[Mistle]

90% of the hate I get comes from BDA...and its not hard to see why.

No, its really not. As for the number, better check your "retirement" thread again, rager. Lol.

Speaking of which...

Good luck in the new pixel lines, be sure to check in here daily like everyone else who left o/

See you back here after PoP progression, or sooner :)

Pure irony. If you only had the self awareness to see it.

[Ravager]

There's no vendetta, just a responsibility to keeping the truth in tact and not letting the (former) BDA spin department sell you a revised version of history with regard to how they shit on the casual tier raid rotation during the end of Kunark.

I pounded them with the truth for a long time, outnumbered and outgunned... but I persisted, they got mad.

Velious hits, they want raid concessions... and of course they no longer have any credibility or guaranteed pixels, so they swan off to Phinigel.

Feels good to see the guild name off P99. Good luck to them on Phinny, and I hope those that stayed will adjust to life in new guilds with a better approach to pixels <3

You didn't win with truth. You didn't win at all. If people stop arguing with you its simply because of attrition. You're the only one on these boards that has 24 hours a day to lie in every single thread and attack every single post.

You're essentially a grease spot on an otherwise clean driveway. Ultimately, it's inconsequential and trying to get rid of it is way more work than it's worth, but that doesn't stop it from nagging at you every time you see it.

[burkemi5]

Posting your forum resume as if it actually means something is pretty fucking cringeworthy

[k2summit]

Keep the dream alive swish, someday you'll hit 15k posts. You yeast infected twat.

[Gimp]

Swish = Greengrocer?

Nobody holds a grudge like they do

[Raev]

2 years? I mean 3 months per expansion goes by pretty fast.

Maybe P99 won't have extreme out of control poopsocking in 2+ years?
hope springs eternal!

[Mistle]

Luclin and PoP are both getting a month or 6 week delay each. Then you have LDoN about a year from now; LDoN wasnt great but its workable. So figure end of next summer before the shit expansions arrive with GoD release. By the beginning of 2018 I am hoping a quality mmorpg will finally be released, or I simply dont care anymore.

[Raev]

I actually heard Gates was pretty good aside from the fact that everyone was 5 levels too low

but then my knowledge of EQ past Velious is pretty bad

also who voted this thread 1 star; this is a superb troll thread

[Swish]

Posting your forum resume as if it actually means something is pretty fucking cringeworthy

About the same as people who post their magelos and brag about how many BiS toons they have, I suppose.

Reflect on that a minute...

[Nibblewitz]

About the same as people who post their magelos and brag about how many BiS toons they have, I suppose.

Reflect on that a minute...

Don't deflect. Reflect.

[Relbaic]

I actually heard Gates was pretty good aside from the fact that everyone was 5 levels too low

but then my knowledge of EQ past Velious is pretty bad

also who voted this thread 1 star; this is a superb troll thread

GoD was pretty solid. The epics were fun, the zones and trials were pretty cool.

[Relbaic]

GoD was pretty solid. The epics were fun, the zones and trials were pretty cool.

Derp meant OoW, GoD wasnt that great!

[maurilax]

GoD was pretty solid. The epics were fun, the zones and trials were pretty cool.

GoD really wasnt that bad, but its true it was tuned for level 70.

having a 1100 quadding pooka pet in those trials was really intense though.

[burkemi5]

About the same as people who post their magelos and brag about how many BiS toons they have, I suppose.

Reflect on that a minute...

Except you can actually do something with those pixels, like play the game, farm more pixels, rmt, etc.

[Bones]

ungrateful babies

^

[Swish]

Except you can actually do something with those pixels, like play the game, farm more pixels, rmt, etc.

You can play the game with no pixels, what's the difference as long as you're having fun?

Making a case for RMT doesn't seem very ethical.

[Mistle]

Posting your forum resume as if it actually means something is pretty fucking cringeworthy

[Swish]

I've done more for this community than most of the anon haters combined, sorry about that.

A new giveaway coming soon as well (sorry about that too), stay tuned <3

[jcr4990]

I've done soooooooooo much for the P99 community. Like endlessly promote an extremely toxic nearly dead server and blame BDA for everything.

[Zekayy]

RIP BDA

[Tyym]

This server is dying. Its a smart move on Chest's part

[jcr4990]

This server is dying. Its a smart move on Chest's part

Sad but true

[TheDuck]

u know what the real reason for BDA taking off, is cause i heard the guild banks got hit in RMT stings and its no longer profitable to trick nerds into farming your rent money here anymore.

[Swish]

Lol

[Sodors Finest Poster]

Does trading pixels for Trackmaster Thomas toys count as rmt?

[central scrutinizer]

sorry, you are?

(another anon forum account)

Habitual 1-59'er that does not raid and has no emotional investments to prompt me to accept your rhetoric, being that I watched what actually happened as an outsider with small guilds trying to game the system ect, and BDA being drummed up as a scapegoat because of severe asspain over the very existence of the rotation.

Not anon, this was the name of my character when I made my account. I just mothballed him when I learned Iksars would be coming in awhile.
We're all anon anyways, unless your real name is just Swish, which would explain a few things. Nobody here is anybody at all. This is a forum for a game. Sorry, a forum for a free emulated version of a game, as it existed more then 15 years ago.

Your sickness is on full display, if by chance you are not simply a child in their angst phase who merely needs to go outside more often, you really do need to talk to a professional therapist. Also taking a walk in the sunlight at least once every few days is probably a good idea as well.

[Troubled]

We're all anon anyways, unless your real name is just Swish, which would explain a few things.

http://i.imgur.com/cqMxQAb.png

[Swish]

Habitual 1-59'er that does not raid and has no emotional investments to prompt me to accept your rhetoric, being that I watched what actually happened as an outsider with small guilds trying to game the system ect, and BDA being drummed up as a scapegoat because of severe asspain over the very existence of the rotation.

Not anon, this was the name of my character when I made my account. I just mothballed him when I learned Iksars would be coming in awhile.
We're all anon anyways, unless your real name is just Swish, which would explain a few things. Nobody here is anybody at all. This is a forum for a game. Sorry, a forum for a free emulated version of a game, as it existed more then 15 years ago.

Your sickness is on full display, if by chance you are not simply a child in their angst phase who merely needs to go outside more often, you really do need to talk to a professional therapist. Also taking a walk in the sunlight at least once every few days is probably a good idea as well.

Love this, the mad in these guys will never die... so neither will this thread :o

[central scrutinizer]

Love this, the mad in these guys will never die... so neither will this thread :o

I'm not with anybody, you're seriously so full of rage that you can't even comprehend how insane you appear to by-standers or that somebody might not follow along with your delusions or otherwise fit in to them.

The fact that you've actually said the words "the mad in these guys will never die" in a thread that you've spammed with dozens upon dozens of posts full of your anger over events that happened years ago says it all.
You don't have even a shred of self-awareness, you are fully indulging your disease at this point.


Sitting here playing jenga with your psyche in front of strangers is not going to help you, the attention that you desperately vie for is purely negative. Submit Reply is made of pixels, it is not a real button, it can not change anything for you no matter how many times you hammer it.


I hope that you can comprehend this some day and somehow learn to understand that everquest is just a game that people play for entertainment. Well, a free emulation of a specific version of a game anyways.

[Swish]

Oh I must be seething here, account 19004 :rolleyes:

No anger in me at all, just a quest to keep the truth documented and not drowned out. A noble quest, more noble than "fire shots at Swish and see if he replies kek"

I wonder what he'll reply with next.

[Gimp]

a year later and swish is still frothing over the rotation collapsing

i'm not sure what's more pathetic, your grudge against bda or grocer's grudge against braknar.

[Raev]

Central you are definitely drinking the BDA koolaid if you think the small guilds were gaming the system. The rotation ended after BDA raged out due to Cloki leaving the guild with most of BDA's morning crew.

That being said, even I've pretty much gotten over the destruction of the rotation. Swish is the lone stalwart of a dying age.

[Nibblewitz]

Indeed, BDA raged for the 10 months that existed between those events.

[Pokesan]

bda doesn't play here stop posting about bda

[jcr4990]

bda doesn't play here stop posting about bda

We've already had this discussion. AT LEAST half this forum doesn't play on this trainwreck of a server anymore. The FQ is still p goog though.

[Troubled]

http://i.imgur.com/lBaAnbV.jpg

[Raev]

Indeed, BDA raged for the 10 months that existed between those events.

You say this sarcastically, and it's true! I mean I was reading that stupid FAP shit.

Also you can't really blame Swish for posting 50x in this thread; this is the best RNF thread in a while. Chest has 33 replies etc.

[contemptor]

so much anger, so little soul

[Nlaar]

Central you are definitely drinking the BDA koolaid if you think the small guilds were gaming the system. The rotation ended after BDA raged out due to Cloki leaving the guild with most of BDA's morning crew.

That being said, even I've pretty much gotten over the destruction of the rotation. Swish is the lone stalwart of a dying age.

False. Cloki formed OMNI ~5-6 months before the rotation ended, maybe even earlier. Check the date on the first post in guild recruitment thread.

BTW its not mentioned BDA started the rotation and was a pioneering proponent of it during the majority of its existence.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

What could have been if we listened to Chest:

http://i.imgur.com/FIHUql7.jpg

[jcr4990]

BDA started the rotation and was a pioneering proponent of it during the majority of its existence.

Get outta here with your facts and logic

[Raev]

False. Cloki formed OMNI ~5-6 months before the rotation ended, maybe even earlier. Check the date on the first post in guild recruitment thread.

BTW its not mentioned BDA started the rotation and was a pioneering proponent of it during the majority of its existence.

It took that long for Chest to finally blow up.

Sure, because you couldn't get any raid mobs otherwise. Basically it was a classic bait and switch.

[Ravager]

It took that long for Chest to finally blow up.

Sure, because you couldn't get any raid mobs otherwise. Basically it was a classic bait and switch.

1 year of rotations. Classic bait and switch. I always thought you were a bit more logical than this, Lorean, unless you really believe Chest planned the whole thing a year in advance. He must be a master of the long con. That or you're just trolling.

[Swish]

...and people think I won't let it go? BDA pals in here defending their side til the end. Just as bad :o

[Man0warr]

It took that long for Chest to finally blow up.

Sure, because you couldn't get any raid mobs otherwise. Basically it was a classic bait and switch.

If it wasn't for Chest's dumb idea, BDA/Taken/Div would have gotten way more mobs/loot for the year and a half leading up to Velious with the default Class R lockout system than being in a rotation.

Not sure how you think otherwise. In fact, if the rotation had never existed I doubt Cloki and his morning pals would have ever split off into Omni - the rotation guaranteed them no competition loot.

[central scrutinizer]

Central you are definitely drinking the BDA koolaid if you think the small guilds were gaming the system. The rotation ended after BDA raged out due to Cloki leaving the guild with most of BDA's morning crew.

That being said, even I've pretty much gotten over the destruction of the rotation. Swish is the lone stalwart of a dying age.

From what I remember, there was some benchmark to get in the rotation, guilds had to kill a mob by themselves or whatever to earn a place on the rotation, and some smaller guilds were piggybacking with larger guilds without having fulfilled the requirement.

Are you saying this did not happen?

[Man0warr]

Nah, smaller guilds were teaming up to kill harder targets as an alliance that they couldn't kill alone. But then for easier targets (like Venril Sathir) they would split the alliance - this caused a ton of rotation slow down on high value (loot) targets, and sped up the harder targets (like Gorenaire) - the bigger guilds would a lot of times end up having to kill Gorenaire at bad hours just to prevent it from going to Class C.

What eventually broke up the rotation is the bigger guilds wanting the smaller guilds to take up just one slot on the rotation - either as a permanent alliance or alone, and kill what they could kill solo or recruit more so they could do the bosses they were on rotation for alone.

[Swish]

From what I remember, there was some benchmark to get in the rotation, guilds had to kill a mob by themselves or whatever to earn a place on the rotation, and some smaller guilds were piggybacking with larger guilds without having fulfilled the requirement.

Are you saying this did not happen?

Certainly for the revised rotation, put Gorenaire in as an admittance ticket.

This suited the zergy BDA/Taken because that's easy...the smaller guilds like Moonlight Crusaders, Supremacy, etc - not so easy.

...but it's obvious with those revisions nobody was agreeing to it, and BDA swung the axe, Taken followed and guaranteed Class R welfare pixels were had by both guilds.

[Juevento]

Y'all keep pounding good and hard on that dead horse...

[Raev]

I mean, BDA for years was selling themselves as 'we are the good guys, we could beat TMO but we won't stoop to their level of training etc'. When they blew up the rotation, they had to reindoctrinate their cult (hence all the 'NWO' propaganda about how Hulk Hogan went into his 'heel' phase and so on) and made a lot of noise about how the rotation was making guilds 'soft'. Then Velious launched and BDA was forced to confront the reality that they just weren't able to compete with either Rampage or F/A. BDA even failed at the Ring War multiple times with 70+ players, when with strategy it can be done with <50 and variance isn't an excuse there. And since the staff removed the R/C system (since they didn't feel like giving BDA/Divinity/Taken, three C sized guilds, a free rotation on Velious) BDA was simply stuck.

I mean, I totally get going to Phinny. It has two expansions that are generally recognized as pretty good. It doesn't have insane FTE poopsocking. It's the best decision for BDA. But the harsh reality is that BDA failed on basically every level possible here.

And yes, I know that Cloki formed Omni like 6 months before the rotation ended. Again, I was in the FAP forum reading the posts. In fact somewhere someone crossposted Chest's ragepost against omni to RNF. So you can read it yourself.

[Man0warr]

BDA never attempted the Ring War after the fixes went in. The last time we tried Giants were still falling through world - and we just didn't have enough bards to Highsun them all back up.

[Man0warr]

And of course BDA couldn't compete with Rampage/Aftermath in Velious - the same reason BDA couldn't compete with TMO and FE/IB in Kunark. The same reason Chest finally threw in the towel when he realized there was no light at the end of tunnel after some of BDAs most hardcore officers finally couldn't take the raid scene anymore and he had no way to replace them or the other friends who had quit in frustration over the years. It was basically HoT farming, Vindi/Velk, and praying for Earthquakes when we could actually kill most dragons we attempted.

Because it's been 6 years of requiring some sort of insanity to obtain FTE to actually kill a mob. Either 84 hours of variance in early Kunark, Coth ducking, FTE racing, it's all the same to the casual guilds. BDA had a higher percentage of people willing to put in the hours to track and obtain FTE than the other casual guilds, but in the end we didn't have enough - when those guys burnt out it was over.

Awakened/Aftermath just has a higher percentage of those types of people. They are still a majority of leechers, but all they need is 20-30 hardcore enough to do all the work for the others.

[Swish]

Take Chest's signature as an example of BDA's mentality...

http://i.imgur.com/3Bingwu.png

"Crush the rotation"

"See the lesser guilds driven before us"



Followed by... "wut, no welfare pixels in Velious? I quit"

[Swish]

Sorry it didn't work out for you - perhaps if you'd ironed out the rotation problems there'd have been more of an appetite between guilds (that you didn't destroy) to work things out

:o