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Teddie1056
05-13-2016, 12:25 PM
Does anyone actually enjoy the click zerg? Why not make it like the ring 8 war and have a roll off?

Spyder73
05-13-2016, 12:28 PM
BDA monopolized Scout for how long?

Ele
05-13-2016, 12:32 PM
Does anyone actually enjoy the click zerg? Why not make it like the ring 8 war and have a roll off?

Why not roll giant faction and not worry about it?

Teddie1056
05-13-2016, 12:32 PM
As far as I know, BDA has never controlled scout. I was out of the country for a while, but while I have been here Anonymous seems to win the most.

Whatever, what is past is past. Does it change the fact that rolling would make for a less annoying and more fair to people who live farther from the NE and who have worse connections (not me, I have a good internet connection in the NE) to have a roll off?

Teddie1056
05-13-2016, 12:33 PM
Not sure I understand, Ele.

Naethyn
05-13-2016, 03:57 PM
I support the roll off of Scout.

xexbis0
05-13-2016, 04:04 PM
The way I was able to be successful was to grab a proper loc through trial and error, basically right on her ass, duck to avoid the throng, shrink pot helps as well, put the mouse cursor in a specific spot to spam click the trade window. I synced up the trade window "Trade" button with the top left corner of the EQ button that opens all the options so when I'm clicking air before her spawn, the second she spawns its bang (ass), bang (trade).

Good luck. At the very least, if you aren't doing one of these things, you'll be one step closer to being on even footing with everyone else.

Lojik
05-13-2016, 04:11 PM
Problem with roll off is how are you going to limit rolls? per guild? Per person? You'll have people show up with friends in different guilds. What about untagged people? clickfest sucks but i think a roll off would get abused too.

Edit: variance would be great, maybe even slight variance in location...but this would be completely up to devs

Naethyn
05-13-2016, 04:14 PM
Problem with roll off is how are you going to limit rolls? per guild? Per person? You'll have people show up with friends in different guilds. What about untagged people? clickfest sucks but i think a roll off would get abused too.

Edit: variance would be great, maybe even slight variance in location...but this would be completely up to devs
All of these issues could have happened at Ring 8, but they don't. The person who wins the role does the turn in.

Lojik
05-13-2016, 04:17 PM
All of these issues could have happened at Ring 8, but they don't. The person who wins the role does the turn in.

The difference is that at scout its a MUCH lower cost of entry to compete. Faction takes an hour in WL and u can get free tools whenever. Maybe make a more involved quest to get scout tools? but not classic.

xexbis0
05-13-2016, 04:21 PM
Let's be honest, it takes exponentially more beef to finish Scout quest.

FatMice
05-13-2016, 04:37 PM
I vote roll off. But do votes count?

Erati
05-13-2016, 04:43 PM
rolling off on something you can replenish every 10 hours even if u win is a mistake

youll get people selling their rolls bc why not- theyll go get more tools in 5 min

Juevento
05-13-2016, 04:45 PM
rolling off on something you can replenish every 10 hours even if u win is a mistake

youll get people selling their rolls bc why not- theyll go get more tools in 5 min

Just cause you are a sleezy scum bag doesn't mean everyone else is.

Erati
05-13-2016, 04:48 PM
im sure theres plenty who would sell this Juevy, you know this

Naethyn
05-13-2016, 04:50 PM
As it stands right now my only option for a scout is to buy it from someone who has lower ping. How is that any different from someone selling a roll? I think it is far worse, because at least I have a chance to win when it is a roll, and it wont be the same people winning every time.

Mud
05-13-2016, 04:59 PM
The idea has been brought up several times in /say shortly before the click-off begins, and most guilds were in support of a roll. Unfortunately, there were always a few debbie downers that shut down the idea, claiming it will never work.

I support a /random.

Teddie1056
05-13-2016, 05:14 PM
I'm glad there is such support for this. Let's work together and make shit like this WAY less annoying.

Nuggie
05-14-2016, 12:43 AM
I support a more sane option for scout.

Pokesan
05-14-2016, 01:06 AM
rolling is fine, but add extended variance with skips.

socking is to be frowned upon.

4WOFURY
05-14-2016, 05:17 PM
I've convinced people to do the roll, only for people (even officers of high profile guilds) to snipe the turn in when they lose...

Cecily
05-14-2016, 05:47 PM
I've convinced people to do the roll, only for people (even officers of high profile guilds) to snipe the turn in when they lose...

That's the reason RnF exists. Use it.

khanable
05-14-2016, 05:49 PM
Yeah for real that's premium rnf content, the fuck

Instead we have these mindless swish threads and nerds raging about dumb non-eq shit

Gimp
05-14-2016, 06:00 PM
Y'all need Jesus

4WOFURY
05-14-2016, 07:18 PM
No point. Wouldn't change anything.

It would just be a different mouthbreather doing the same thing...

Swish
05-14-2016, 07:30 PM
Yeah for real that's premium rnf content, the fuck

Instead we have these mindless swish threads and nerds raging about dumb non-eq shit

This seems like a respectable thread, not mindless.

Lojik
05-14-2016, 08:02 PM
Player made agreement, not enforceable. All it takes is one jackass.

-Catherin-
05-15-2016, 11:56 AM
What in the world does this have to do with me? :p

I'd support a roll-off though in a perfect world. But i don't think it is going to happen. you probably would need to get agreement from everyone there on a case by case basis. The quest is too easy to begin, which means there are way too many people involved to get any universal agreement on anything.

Example: The raid scene.

snergle
05-15-2016, 12:11 PM
If we are going for non classic answers to this why dont we just ask for it to spawn faster? lucan should be once a week but it is faster.

snots
05-15-2016, 01:17 PM
I support a roll off for Scout

- hagz

GinnasP99
05-15-2016, 01:27 PM
socking is to be frowned upon.

You know what server this is, right ?

Sodors Finest Poster
05-16-2016, 08:53 AM
7 day variance.

Punish all the pixel seekers.

Erati
05-16-2016, 08:58 AM
did this happen?

nothsa
05-17-2016, 03:10 AM
Let us do this please wiho here thinks this cluter fuck is fine?

eisley
05-17-2016, 05:01 AM
practice, strategize, get good at it...

then i bet you wont want a roll off anymore

TheDuck
05-17-2016, 06:20 AM
this is funny, on red scout can be grabbed fairly easily whenever you want. seeing this is funny. this isnt EQ. this is bread lines for pixels.


love coming over to the blue forums every once and a while and seeing how you pixel starved children behave.

Swish
05-17-2016, 06:35 AM
Reminds me of the Stalingrad siege by the Germans in WW2... the pixel hunger gets worse by the day.

There's an alternative, of course...

manguard
05-17-2016, 06:58 AM
please do Scout roll for humanity's sake.

Farzo
05-17-2016, 07:32 AM
Wtf is this shit.

Roll red and PvP over scout.

You bluebies need 2 seek help.

Are you guys seriously talking about rotating Scout?

You boys also should rotate around penis' too coz thats a thing.

contemptor
05-17-2016, 08:02 AM
Wtf is this shit.

Roll red and PvP over scout.

You bluebies need 2 seek help.

Are you guys seriously talking about rotating Scout?

You boys also should rotate around penis' too coz thats a thing.
33 people on red right now. I doubt there would be anyone there to pvp.

Pitborn
05-17-2016, 08:05 AM
Because you bluebies would be going for the pvp.
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Sodors Finest Poster
05-17-2016, 08:07 AM
Do the pixels keep you warm at night?

Lojik
05-17-2016, 08:38 AM
Scout not a problem if u just host ur own server and give urself all the gear, nubs

Kileras
05-17-2016, 09:01 AM
just learn to do it like everyone else that had to learn to do it against BDA masses that were there for 6 months. Same as everything else in the game right? Learn to do it and put in the time. Staring at a wall for 16 hours is dumb too but nobody going to be making that more "sane" i am sure.

Trungep99
05-17-2016, 10:01 AM
Im in favor ofrolling off for scout; the current system is bombarded with chaos. plus we can do a roll off 20 mins early

Daldaen
05-17-2016, 10:20 AM
There is no cost/effort to doing the quest. Roll makes no sense. Any dude with faction which is 1000s of characters on this server. They'll all show up and 100 will roll. It will be dumb. Spam clicking air is almost nearly as dumb. The benefit of scout is its 2 minutes out of your day with no variance and you can do other shit with your day if you don't win.

Ele
05-17-2016, 11:41 AM
just wear some blue diamond bracelets dawgs

xKoopa
05-17-2016, 11:44 AM
just wear some blue diamond bracelets dawgs

I wore bd bracers for so long planning to replace with benevolence.. never got past the bda army at scout and lost motivation to try lol

manguard
05-17-2016, 04:06 PM
Wtf is this shit.

Roll red and PvP over scout.

You bluebies need 2 seek help.

Are you guys seriously talking about rotating Scout?

You boys also should rotate around penis' too coz thats a thing.

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/200/420/BRTky.jpg

contemptor
05-17-2016, 08:52 PM
just learn to do it like everyone else that had to learn to do it against BDA masses that were there for 6 months. Same as everything else in the game right? Learn to do it and put in the time. Staring at a wall for 16 hours is dumb too but nobody going to be making that more "sane" i am sure.
You can "learn" to camp out on the exact spawn point, log in ahead of time, look down, shrink, and sit. But you can't learn 30ms ping and luck.

nothsa
05-18-2016, 04:26 AM
what about the asians and euros...
It's a bit unfair. Come on please for the children, this is from an aussie who has done 2 hands ins so far, but i tell you even with perfectly done i can get the trade window open and in maybe 25ms its closes because someone else got the hand in, its like a literal flicker on the screen worth of time.
How can i get good!?

Sallan
05-18-2016, 05:31 AM
what about the asians and euros...
It's a bit unfair. Come on please for the children, this is from an aussie who has done 2 hands ins so far, but i tell you even with perfectly done i can get the trade window open and in maybe 25ms its closes because someone else got the hand in, its like a literal flicker on the screen worth of time.
How can i get good!?

True story from another fellow 250ms-er!

Ravager
05-18-2016, 06:16 AM
WTS Scout Hand-In, 10k.

Raev
05-18-2016, 09:47 AM
I don't see how 100 people rolling off is an improvement really. The reality is just that the quest reward is way too good relative to the difficulty, and the real solution would be to make the Kromzek Captain roughly as strong as Derakor the Vindicator. But that's not classic. However, I notice that the OP is a Warrior. IMO the Bracer of Benevolence is only a smidge better than the HOT bracer. So save your time and stop wasting Scout spawns!