Resist Debuffs and Player looting - EMERGENCY PATCH, MAY 31, 2001

[Doctor Jeff]

I was researching the Knight defensive skill caps today when I noticed this Hotpatch regarding Resist Debuffs and Player looting

EMERGENCY PATCH, MAY 31, 2001 (http://web.archive.org/web/20010630084246/http://eq.castersrealm.com/viewarticle.asp?Article=3537)

Resist-debuffs will do 1.5 times their normal value for PvP encounters. In other words, if the spell did -60MR in PvP before, it does -90MR in PvP now. PvE (combat versus NPCs) remains unaffected.

On all PvP servers, only the person who gets the killing-blow in PvP combat will have looting rights. We would prefer to implement some sort of 'majority damage' logic however this should solve most of the issues associated with uninvolved players 'ninja-looting' the loser in PvP encounters.

Hope this helps.

[Videri]

Hello Doctor, resist debuffs already do 150% in PvP. It is not shown in the client.

[Doctor Jeff]

Thanks, but are you certain that this is the case? The -60MR (should be -90MR in PvP) Malosi, does not make my 184MR Paladin rootable.

Perhaps this is a bug involving the way I tested this. Removed resist gear to allow Malosi to land, reequipped resist gear, and resisted root. Displayed MR with Malosi and MR gear on was 124.
If this is just a graphical bug, it does not explain the other effects.

Edit: You have no reason to be worried about being CC'd as a result of this thread. There is no evidence that any changes have ever been made as a result of a bug report.

[Videri]

I thought the root threshold was 80 MR, not 100.

Would be cool to try rooting someone with and without an MR debuff at various levels of MR by removing gear. Then, you would be able to see if the true MR is actually lower. For instance, if you have 90 displayed MR with no debuff and are not rootable, but at 90 displayed MR with a debuff (but wearing more MR, obviously) you ARE rootable, that would prove the debuff is doing more than it shows.

So, someone else please do this for me.

[Videri]

Just kidding. Let's try it.

[Doctor Jeff]

Just kidding. Let's try it.

I will be down to do this with either you or Enig when I get home on Monday.

[Doctor Jeff]

bump

Tested with 60 paladin and 60 shaman casting Paralyzing Earth

Resisted root every time at 100 MR, no debuffs
Resisted root 4/6 times at 90 MR, no debuffs

Resisted root every time with 163 MR, no debuffs
Resisted root every time at base 163 MR, with Malosi on (Displayed MR was 103) Edit: True MR should have been 73
Resisted root 3/6 times at base 151 MR, with Malosi on (Displayed MR was 91) Edit: True MR should have been 61

[Doctor Jeff]

a simple forum search would have revealed that the debuff +50% bonus has been in since before velious came out and the client just doesn't show the bonus

A simple reading of the above post would have revealed that the change didn't work.

that malosi should apply -90 MR in PvP. Even if it was only the client showing my MR to be 103, I should not have resisted every root, because my true mr should have been 73

Edit: I would encourage you to try it yourself if you played here.

[Doctor Jeff]

Also, currently you do not have to deliver the killing blow to receive loot rights in PvP.

[Doctor Jeff]

that same exact forum search would have also revealed that the level of the spell determines the 100% resist threshold

you're talking to the person who tested this more than anyone else and figured out these values (the forum search also reveals this)

The resist threshhold for root is most certainly not <75MR, evidence in earlier post.

[Doctor Jeff]

paralyzing earth is a low level spell

It is the level 56 spell and the highest level root available to a shaman.

http://wiki.project1999.com/Paralyzing_Earth

Edit: The only better root is Fetter.

http://wiki.project1999.com/Fetter


This change is currently not working.

[Doctor Jeff]

and fetter has a resist threshold of 100

paralyzing earth and other lower level roots have thresholds at 50 and 70

Today I learned! I will test this with a 60 wizard when I get home!

[EatitNerd]

This is working as intended already

[totmanc]

Did Testing on this for myself:

1)With TASH lowest MAGIC resist I could resist Fetter with was 95 MR resisted Every cast. *about 30ish roots tested* 95 MR


2) Without being Tashed Fetter would not land at 76 MR but would land at 75 MR.

Conclusion 1.5 Value is working for Tash. Don't know about any of the other MR debuffs but tash is working.

[totmanc]

That being said my root not landing on me nearly as high as DR jeff's was. Is this because I was casting root on myself? If self casting is an issue perhaps the 1.5 value only works on self casts? Will need an elf pal to continue this.