The 322lbs tin foil thread

[Daywolf]

/emote secret handshake

Yeah not all theories listed of course, but I best categorize popular ones by my opinion, so if a particular one not mentioned just find the best category for it, not that you agree with all in that category.

Some conspiracy theories have branches, so some are overlapping here, but in the general ballpark. Like Nibiru packs a lot of different theories, but I tossed it in with a general NASA style cover-up category, but at the same time it could fit with Atlantis etc. I also left out religious and ethnic conspiracies, to maybe spare the thread from a full retard meltdown off the bat, but they can still fit into the existing loose categories.

No, I don't give weight to all of these, just know of them well enough. I also looked over top 10 lists by like Time mag and Telegraph UK etc. though only some of these from those lists as they are more enduring classic theories where I'm looking for more contemporary theories on peoples mind most often, even if a classic theory which is common too.

I even find it hard to pick, favs vs impending. I'd suggest just pick most often day to day thought, something you feel might most impact your personal life more than others and that you have been compelled to look into by some degree.

Topic open for theory discussion, what you picked or your trolling that 'conspiracy theories' is a conspiracy theory and Santa stole the tooth from under your pillow and the sweet roll from your dresser drawer.

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[Swish]

Capricorn One

[maerilith]

Not exactly conspiracies per se

http://www.williamhenry.net <----- LOVE this guy soo much I'd be tempted to join a cult if he led one.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1806688/
http://www.lloydpye.com
http://divinecosmos.com

Soooo I guess Ancient Aliens??????

But see here's the thing there aren't really Aliens per se according to the Mythology of Maerilith

Here's how things kinda went down... we were more advanced and there's probably more advanced, maybe transhuminist, maybe not sort of us out there. (white people, perhaps very evil and tyrannical, think Farscape Peacekeepers. All they do is keep an empire and power that keeps them in ships and gives them something to do.

But you see earth and mars were once very alive and occupied by 1 or two distinct types of hominids. Back when the earth still had dinosaurs something really bad happened to mars. Perhaps there were wizards who used the pyramids on mars and earth and the henges sort of like the druids/wizards of EQ (also check out cazic thule, sony/verent, the serpent people were on to some next level shit). Anyway So bad shit happened in the solar system and a lot of angry white people decided to colonize earth. That kind of fucked black people over.

But then, maybe Niburu, maybe cosmic background radiation, stuff, ice ages, lots of wrecked ships on the moon. Possibly nuclear fallout. Vishnu level destruction. The death of the dinosaurs (which were part of the Inca's timeline btw which is also much older than we realize).

Anyway there were lots of global collapses. Perhaps small outposts remained in outer space, but perhaps they died off due to a lack of support from the planets that use to support them with food and such. Though energy is free in space. So maybe it was just that the people in space didn't really die so much as they became the greys. There's a few old terrestial looking people freeze dried in the vacume of space hooked into cybernetics and other creep shit.

Anyway the greys are exactly like what the asgard of stargate or jovians of eve are represented (almost) but maybe less anthropormorphic in psychology. Transhuminoid peoples who through cloning kind of fucked thmselves up and lost their way or became fully transhumanoid and machine like even. So they don't have the same drives, or ability to replicate we do. Perhaps are vulnurable to hacking (area 51, Darpa, Nazi's bad bad evil ancient cultish bohemian grove shit power elite keeping everyone in line with ancient technology and grey tech). Anyway there's not much left of them.

Just don't go down into any caves, or like antarctica or you might get killed by them. They either are programmed to guard secret and powerful areas for the elites and immortals (like juipiter ascending, fuck yeah wachowski sisters!) <3<3<3 !!!! GIRL POWER.

Anyway s I probably got a little side tracked here anyway no one realllly cares much about you or me daywolf or even obama so long as they don't step out of line and start shitting up the cosmos again. the peacekeeper federation just kind of chills and checks in on us from time to time, and the power elite just harvest us every once in awhile

Human civilization probably wasn't spawned on this planet, perhaps neandertals were he remenants of the old Asgard humans or Nordics and so people like smedy are kind more related to neandertals who cross bread with humans from africa (black people sort of mostly) and created hybrids all over asia with protohumans and what was left of the space faring subspecies that were differentiated less by genetics and more by environmental situations and living conditions/adrenaline/domestication/hormon/diet

Anway there really aren't aliens and the poor little greys really got fucked in this deal they may not even be able to reason with us or might be under Bushes secret mind control MJ12 brothers things.

The lizard people well. Lizards are passive and non-aggressive. Even gators spend most of their time just chillin in the sun being happy. I think that's all bullshit.

Most of our culture and ancient civilizations are just the crubbles of time as people recovered and dug their way out of the apocolypse of 1 million years ago growing up in the shadows of past wonders of an ancient ancient civilization now dead and gone, ancient egyptians didn't build the pyramids but the sure thought they were cool as fuck and some really smart people did recover technology and decode/decipher some of what was. And so things like the All seeing eye pays homage to that. But we really got a lot of it wrong and probably lost to much knowledge to recover what once had meaning to the original people (cylons, caprica 6 type models). I'm not voting for world domination because the powerful don't really have to dominate us, they just cherry pick what they want and ignore the rest of us, aren't subject to the rules that govern the rest of us. Don't see themselves as us or even related to us. So they kind of are just assholes and not really a problem to the normies.

Also, I'm sort of what happens when a higher functioning set of genes is activated on the next path to ascension for humankind. I mean I am like bene geserit and stuff compared to most of the troglodytes that kind of exist en masse an without any ability to comprehend the greater self.'

Maybe I got the white and black people backwards the black peope are from outerspace and the neandertals were the normal earthies pre-omfg-solar wide shitstorm. And not to say that either was less advanced, or not equal in intelligence, but the black people spread out of africa, cairo and the middle easte and interbred more with the neandertals if you watch modern european PBS. So the real modern "pure" "advanced humans" are more related to aboriginals and africans (aboriginals because they became isolated and didn't have sex with the nords)

I don't know I don't have any evidence either way. The big thing to take from all this is the combining of DNA and sharing of knowledge and hybridization of species or mixing (i hate to say races) but climatic subtypes of humans really is strengthening and bridgin the gap in damanged and isolated homogenous groups creating more diversity and better smarter people. Check out the whole thing on the siberian or silver fox in russia was a kewl study on how genetics is less relevant than situation and circumstance in the "changing of a breed" of wild animal into a more doglike critter. Perhaps as a lifeform we are becoming more suited to ascension and technological evolution rather then survival and that may start the cycle allover again.

There are no aliens!!!!!!!!!!! NO SUCH THING. They don't exit. Life didn't evolve here. Or if it did it's so hybridized that maybe only the tiniest amount is indigenous to this planet. And life is ubiquitous everywhere.

Hope that helps.

[Pokesan]

My reptilian master has taken a special interest in your activities on these forums, Daywolf.

Expect a visit.

[Daywolf]

Capricorn One
One of the fist conspiracies I was exposed to thanks to the original movie. That and the JFK conspiracies that had documentaries all over the place at the time. Did I say "Aria" 51? hah. In Search Of (https://www.youtube.com/user/insearchoftv) was a really good show back in the day too. Probably my best all around exposure to the many many topics was from listening to early Art Bell up until he retired. George Noory sux btw.

[Nihilist_santa]

You forgot the holocaust,Aliens are really demons, hollow earth, lunar soul magnet,and bands of wild people/sasquatch snatching people from parks. :P

[NegaStoat]

Just building 7 of the 9/11 event is the one I could pick out of your list, but the other two that weigh on my mind every now and then would be the Oklahoma City Bombing official story and the alleged Sandy Hook school shootings. I gave up pointing fingers for "who is really responsible?" or "what would a person gain by doing this?" I just enjoy taking a look at official stories and facts and seeing how much or how little they hold water for veracity.

[Daywolf]

You forgot the holocaust,Aliens are really demons, hollow earth, lunar soul magnet,and bands of wild people/sasquatch snatching people from parks. :Psoo... lizard people? e.g hollow earth, nephilim, sasquatch etc.
As for lunar soul magnet? you mean machine? That would be UFO/Roswell category me thinks. Holocaust I intentionally didn't put in, see original post, but probably under Elvis faked death etc.

Just building 7 of the 9/11 event is the one I could pick out of your list, but the other two that weigh on my mind every now and then would be the Oklahoma City Bombing official story and the alleged Sandy Hook school shootings. I gave up pointing fingers for "who is really responsible?" or "what would a person gain by doing this?" I just enjoy taking a look at official stories and facts and seeing how much or how little they hold water for veracity. Yeah false flags etc. Building #7 is pretty strong imo. I sort of giggle at holographic planes though, at least being all of them. I don't know if Bush did it, but I'm closer to that compared to where I was in the beginning. I'd like to see a deeper inquiry into it, yep.

[maerilith]

I'm serious. And I am right.

[Blitzers]

Global Warming should be on this list. It is the single biggest fraud ever and riddled with confirmation bias and blatant falsehoods. Yet the world has swallowed this conspiracy as truth and will suffer greatly because of it.

Conservative Science Denier says, "look in your pants and then choose the appropriate bathroom."

Is "weather wars" your reference to Global Warming?

[Blitzers]

soo... lizard people? e.g hollow earth, nephilim, sasquatch etc.
As for lunar soul magnet? you mean machine? That would be UFO/Roswell category me thinks. Holocaust I intentionally didn't put in, see original post, but probably under Elvis faked death etc.

Yeah false flags etc. Building #7 is pretty strong imo. I sort of giggle at holographic planes though, at least being all of them. I don't know if Bush did it, but I'm closer to that compared to where I was in the beginning. I'd like to see a deeper inquiry into it, yep.

^^ nothing of value here, and no one hates GWBush more then me.

SPAMWOLF how much meth have you consumed in your life?

[maerilith]

^^ nothing of value here, and no one hates GWBush more then me.

SPAMWOLF how much meth have you consumed in your life?

http://i.imgur.com/vvnUFMJ.jpg

[Daywolf]

^^ nothing of value here, and no one hates GWBush more then me.

SPAMWOLF how much meth have you consumed in your life?

Spoken like a true neocon war monger. Go kick some fluffy kittens why dont ya.

[maerilith]

Spoken like a true neocon war monger. Go kick some fluffy kittens why dont ya.

He does sound kind of really really mad in most of his posts. Probably donates money to the neocon war machine. :(

[Nihilist_santa]

soo... lizard people? e.g hollow earth, nephilim, sasquatch etc.
As for lunar soul magnet? you mean machine? That would be UFO/Roswell category me thinks. Holocaust I intentionally didn't put in, see original post, but probably under Elvis faked death etc.

Yeah false flags etc. Building #7 is pretty strong imo. I sort of giggle at holographic planes though, at least being all of them. I don't know if Bush did it, but I'm closer to that compared to where I was in the beginning. I'd like to see a deeper inquiry into it, yep.

The reason I mention Holocaust is because it is really strange to me that it is illegal in many countries to question the holocaust or to deny it. People have been sent to prison for thought crime. Tell me something doesn't seem fishy there? Especially when we look at Israel and all of their ethnic policies. They became the Nazis.

[maerilith]

The reason I mention Holocaust is because it is really strange to me that it is illegal in many countries to question the holocaust or to deny it. People have been sent to prison for thought crime. Tell me something doesn't seem fishy there? Especially when we look at Israel and all of their ethnic policies. They became the Nazis.

Well if you weren't such a white supremacist you'd realize the body of evidence that the holocaust did happen and was a really horrible horrible thing is overwhelming and indisputable by hundreds of thousands of eye witnesses and survivors and that in germany specifically denying the holocaust happened in the way the Nazi party "did" or other Nazi germans did made everyone look foolish bad and dumb and kind of almost whent beyond free speech to insanity and such... perhaps a law could have been made that if you use a falsehood to justify your stupid behavior you get jailed on your stupid behavior and your falsehood can be used to prosecute you would be better. Denying the holocaust is very akin to telling a rape victim over and over it was their fault and their character that got them raped, then punishing them for being raped. It's not fucking cool dood.

Anyways the laws don't forbid acedemic discussion about the Nazi party or holocaust.

They forbid using the symbols and continuing to be a Nazi and shaming the country. This is how it's explained to me by a native in the country born and raised indigenous german gentleman who is really fucking cool smart and legit and nice. He feels very safe and happy and free and able to say just whatever he wants how he wants to say it. He is only mad about the mass transit peeps fucking people over for forgetting their boarding pass (which is kind of wierd how it's run) anyway.

[Spyder73]

Voted Bush Towers with my body, but my mind is 100% Flat Earth

[maerilith]

I pretty much believe everything spyder tells me even about my usage of Xanax.

[Nihilist_santa]

Well if you weren't such a white supremacist you'd realize the body of evidence that the holocaust did happen and was a really horrible horrible thing is overwhelming and indisputable by hundreds of thousands of eye witnesses and survivors and that in germany specifically denying the holocaust happened in the way the Nazi party "did" or other Nazi germans did made everyone look foolish bad and dumb and kind of almost whent beyond free speech to insanity and such... perhaps a law could have been made that if you use a falsehood to justify your stupid behavior you get jailed on your stupid behavior and your falsehood can be used to prosecute you would be better. Denying the holocaust is very akin to telling a rape victim over and over it was their fault and their character that got them raped, then punishing them for being raped. It's not fucking cool dood.

Anyways the laws don't forbid acedemic discussion about the Nazi party or holocaust.

They forbid using the symbols and continuing to be a Nazi and shaming the country. This is how it's explained to me by a native in the country born and raised indigenous german gentleman who is really fucking cool smart and legit and nice.

Spoken like a true moron. First Im not a white supremacist. Second if the truth was so overwhelming and settled they wouldn't need criminal enforcement. Its illegal to "deny" even in places like Canada.Third you don't know what the fuck you are talking about as usual. People get 10+ year sentences. Anyways I dont buy into all of that childish thinking like "USA and friends = Good everyone else = BAD" You think the Nazis were pure evil and we were the good guys? George Patton had a freak out when he found out all of the dirty deals being cut with Stalin by the Allies and how they prevented him from rescuing over 20k troops just miles from him from the Commies. Then Patton dies in an "accident" after threatening to expose that shit. History is determined by the victors.

[maerilith]

Spoken like a true moron. First Im not a white supremacist. Second if the truth was so overwhelming and settled they wouldn't need criminal enforcement. Its illegal to "deny" even in places like Canada.Third you don't know what the fuck you are talking about as usual. People get 10+ year sentences. Anyways I dont buy into all of that childish thinking like "USA and friends = Good everyone else = BAD" You think the Nazis were pure evil and we were the good guys? George Patton had a freak out when he found out all of the dirty deals being cut with Stalin by the Allies and how they prevented him from rescuing over 20k troops just miles from him from the Commies. Then Patton dies in an "accident" after threatening to expose that shit. History is determined by the victors.

Emailing your Canadian Prime Minister right now. Expect the thought police on your doorstep in 15 minutes. They owe me some favors anyway.

Oh yeah, stalin was a jerk, so were the Americans, we turned away and permitted the killing of thousands of Jews seeking asylumn.

TBH I wouldn't shed a tear of the lizard people devoured you though. You've proven reliably over and over and over again that it's better to live in a society were asshattery is less tolerated.

Any thread where I can allege that Mr Clause is a Nazi is an A+ 5 star thread to me, thanks daywolf <3 rated 5/5

[maskedmelon]

History is determined by the victors.

Nary a truer indictment on the published record of our past. For example despite Japan's evil expansionist policies, it maintains amicable relations with many formerly occupied territories, the notable exceptions of course being historical adversary China and its puppet Korea.

[R Flair]

Spoken like a true moron. First Im not a white supremacist. Second if the truth was so overwhelming and settled they wouldn't need criminal enforcement. Its illegal to "deny" even in places like Canada.Third you don't know what the fuck you are talking about as usual. People get 10+ year sentences.
thats literally never happened

[Nihilist_santa]

Emailing your Canadian Prime Minister right now. Expect the thought police on your doorstep in 15 minutes. They owe me some favors anyway.

Oh yeah, stalin was a jerk, so were the Americans, we turned away and permitted the killing of thousands of Jews seeking asylumn.

TBH I wouldn't shed a tear of the lizard people devoured you though. You've proven reliably over and over and over again that it's better to live in a society were asshattery is less tolerated.

Any thread where I can allege that Mr Clause is a Nazi is an A+ 5 star thread to me, thanks daywolf <3 rated 5/5

Whatever. Not my fault your very existence proves Hitler was right. Doesn't make me a white supremacist but it still makes you a pederast degenerate.

[Pokesan]

Whatever. Not my fault your very existence proves Hitler was right. Doesn't make me a white supremacist but it still makes you a pederast degenerate.



actually it kinda does make you a white supremacist

[Nihilist_santa]

thats literally never happened

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_against_Holocaust_denial

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8&client=ubuntu#q=holocaust%20deniers%20imprisoned

You can look up people like Ernst Zundel.

[maerilith]

there is an abandoned and demolished japanese internment camp even here in the backwoods of FL were I live.

There is just a slab covering a 10x10 area of the center of the site, it's rumored some kind of memorial is burried there.

But no one talks about it and it's lost to history.

Nihilist Santa falsely assumes that I accept the party line and follow a rigid form of thinking and am a thought policewoman.

I don't think Nihilist Santa has a pair of braincells to put together to understand that not all of recorded past is wrong. Were did you get your information NH? lol

I go to the library and I talk to people from all over the world about the serious. I was in the military and served with Foreign officers. They were coooool as fuck I learned A LOT. I payed attention in class and I argued with my teachers proving them wrong over and over again to the point of nearly being kicked out of school.

Nazi lol :D

Also there was this one sexy as fuck italian Warrant Officer omg this guy was... TssssssssHAWT... fucking a...

He REALLY hated my guts I think though. Or it was just awkward cause we wanted 2 fuk so bad.

[Nihilist_santa]

actually it kinda does make you a white supremacist

No a white supremacist is someone who believes that the white race is the pinnacle of evolution and that other races are inferior. That in no way encapsulates my beliefs but its a great way for you to avoid actual discussion and to stigmatize someone.

[Pokesan]

OK but stop talking about how cool hitler was

[maerilith]

Maybe he's a jew who believes his race deserved what they got and sees himself as week and pathetic and deserving of ridicule and hatred?

He's kind of flakywierd. Anyone with an avatar like that (that never changed since 2010 btw) with only 243 posts on this forum has got to have serious psychological problems.

He could also be an Arab man who some how got asylum in canada and those guys are mad and crazy as fuck wierd sometimes like 1 in 5 of them are like mindwarped from the terrorcamps and badness of growing up in a minority muslim patriarchy on the streets and being sold as a prostitute to men with more standing. God ya'll should learn about muslim culture in depth that shits scary.

I guess the Jury is still out Nihilist Santa. It's best if you just come out to us and tell us who you are for real. Take it from me, coming out was the best thing I ever did :D

[Nihilist_santa]

OK but stop talking about how cool hitler was

Its not a "hitler was cool thing" its really quite simple. People today bitch about the banks, illuminati whatevers, and internationalist/globalist. The Nazis were the only ones standing up to that. They threw out the bankers and got rid of usury. They were the only ones holding back the tide of the communist hordes. They went from one of the worst countries on earth to the most advanced in 5 years. Amazing what you can do when you throw out the monopoly men and start over.

Its not like the dude just wanted to kill Jews. He signed agreements allowing them to take all of their holdings and leave Europe. People say Hitler wanted world domination but he offered peace terms to England on 9 different occasions.

What kills me the most is all of these leftist that ask for a system of government similar to that offered by national socialism only without the ethnocentric aspects.

I dont have all of the answers but I dont just accept what I am told. I think about things rationally and the fact that there is only 1 event in history you are not allowed to question without risk of imprisonment in democratic free countries is a big red flag.

[R Flair]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_against_Holocaust_denial

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8&client=ubuntu#q=holocaust%20deniers%20imprisoned

You can look up people like Ernst Zundel.

I thought we were talking about Canada.

I think Germans should be shot on sight for denying the Holocaust.

and I dont know why it would be strange for anyone to feel that way. Its not like its some sort of conspiracy where people are propagating some lie by killing people who question it. Its about remembering such a travesty so humanity does not make such mistakes again.

[Nihilist_santa]

Maybe he's a jew who believes his race deserved what they got and sees himself as week and pathetic and deserving of ridicule and hatred?

He's kind of flakywierd. Anyone with an avatar like that (that never changed since 2010 btw) with only 243 posts on this forum has got to have serious psychological problems.

He could also be an Arab man who some how got asylum in canada and those guys are mad and crazy as fuck wierd sometimes like 1 in 5 of them are like mindwarped from the terrorcamps and badness of growing up in a minority muslim patriarchy on the streets and being sold as a prostitute to men with more standing. God ya'll should learn about muslim culture in depth that shits scary.

I guess the Jury is still out Nihilist Santa. It's best if you just come out to us and tell us who you are for real. Take it from me, coming out was the best thing I ever did :D

A true hypocrite . "Nazis were bad they dehumanized people" then proceeds to dehumanize Muslims.

[maerilith]

A true hypocrite . "Nazis were bad they dehumanized people" then proceeds to dehumanize Muslims.

I didn't say all muslims are XYZ theres' some really cool ones, I said go learn about it it's scary as fuck.

Just as scary to learn about the mormons and shit like the Mormon Wars in Utah (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_War)

A lot of muslims are super smart and awesome and tell you there culture is pretty fucked up in some places, especially where the terrorists have control.

[Nihilist_santa]

I thought we were talking about Canada.

I think Germans should be shot on sight for denying the Holocaust.

Ernst Zundel went through all kinds of legal battles that resulted in his deportation from Canada for mailing books to customers. There was a documentary I watched years ago before I had ever been turned on to any of this. It was called "Mr. Death" about an expert on execution equipment in the US who was called to testify in a holocaust denial trial in Canada. The guy went to the concentration camps and figured it was mathematically impossible to do what was claimed in those facilities. They crucified the guy and ruined his career for simply giving his non politicized opinion in a trial he was called to testify in.

[Nihilist_santa]

I didn't say all muslims are XYZ theres' some really cool ones, I said go learn about it it's scary as fuck.

Just as scary to learn about the mormons and shit like the Mormon Wars in Utah (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_War)

A lot of muslims are super smart and awesome and tell you there culture is pretty fucked up in some places, especially where the terrorists have control.

And some black people are "really well spoken" . Do you have any idea how you sound?

[maerilith]

Some white people are ignorant as fuck. Maybe your just trailer trash :D

[Nihilist_santa]

Some white people are ignorant as fuck. Maybe your just trailer trash :D

It's "you're".

[maerilith]

It's "you're".

don't rly care when replying 2 u, u'll see my grammer improved in other threads and posts were I do care

but I don't care

I'm just a horrible monster. I don't even see myself as a human, because humans are pretty pathetic, namean? :D

http://i.imgur.com/sRqhxDb.gif

[Daywolf]

Its not like the dude just wanted to kill Jews.
And there is your answer, it wasn't just jews. The actual holocaust encompasses many peoples (some say up to 5 million others, but at least a couple mil). Hitler was driven by Darwinian theory, that of natural selection and his attempt to help it along. And in that to fit his Aryan cult/occult views stemming from the Atlanteans and Zoroastrians that he felt to be a part of. His obsession was driven into Occult beliefs where he sought help to reach his goals.

Many that fell to the holocaust were not just jews, but Soviet POW's, Poles, Ukrainians and Belorussians that were not jews. Also political prisoners and a wide variety of others. Hitler was also a splendid record keeper btw.

I tend to rely heavily on the power of witness, especially when it comes to any conspiracy theory. That and official documents secondly. And in this I have concluded such a theory is wholly bogus on every level.

As for the international question of illegality, it makes no difference to me nor to the issue, at least from an American perspective (still somewhat free country, sort of). And really, if you look closely, to me it seems apparent that the true intent of eliminating debate on the topic is to remove it entirely from public thought. That is not necessarily a good thing though, as those that do not learn from history tend to repeat history.

Don't think that such debate is always banned/illegal to simply favor the current historical trend, but it stifles both side of the debate. Once both sides are removed from public discussion, things forgotten, history becomes a shell and it can proceed to repeat.

I blame the NWO hehe. My view is primarily Unified Conspiracy Theory. All roads lead to secret societies, and some not so secret. Not EVERY conspiracy (there are very many, some true but many not), but a many are a part of an overall herding to a specific focal point. Likely most people that voted for the leading poll choice are such, unified theory. And I would say from that prospective, my own personal guess, it is illegal to discuss such things in those countries as they move to hit the "reset button" (e.g. Hillary's Russian reset button) and one day revive another holocaust, maybe one day soon.

[barrettdc1]

I pretty much believe everything spyder tells me even about my usage of Xanax.

woa you have a xanax script? give me some

[maerilith]

woa you have a xanax script? give me some

The Xanaax is just for pokesans wine :D

[Nihilist_santa]

And there is your answer, it wasn't just jews. The actual holocaust encompasses many peoples (some say up to 5 million others, but at least a couple mil). Hitler was driven by Darwinian theory, that of natural selection and his attempt to help it along. And in that to fit his Aryan cult/occult views stemming from the Atlanteans and Zoroastrians that he felt to be a part of. His obsession was driven into Occult beliefs where he sought help to reach his goals.

Many that fell to the holocaust were not just jews, but Soviet POW's, Poles, Ukrainians and Belorussians that were not jews. Also political prisoners and a wide variety of others. Hitler was also a splendid record keeper btw.

I tend to rely heavily on the power of witness, especially when it comes to any conspiracy theory. That and official documents secondly. And in this I have concluded such a theory is wholly bogus on every level.

As for the international question of illegality, it makes no difference to me nor to the issue, at least from an American perspective (still somewhat free country, sort of). And really, if you look closely, to me it seems apparent that the true intent of eliminating debate on the topic is to remove it entirely from public thought. That is not necessarily a good thing though, as those that do not learn from history tend to repeat history.

Don't think that such debate is always banned/illegal to simply favor the current historical trend, but it stifles both side of the debate. Once both sides are removed from public discussion, things forgotten, history becomes a shell and it can proceed to repeat.

I blame the NWO hehe. My view is primarily Unified Conspiracy Theory. All roads lead to secret societies, and some not so secret. Not EVERY conspiracy (there are very many, some true but many not), but a many are a part of an overall herding to a specific focal point. Likely most people that voted for the leading poll choice are such, unified theory. And I would say from that prospective, my own personal guess, it is illegal to discuss such things in those countries as they move to hit the "reset button" (e.g. Hillary's Russian reset button) and one day revive another holocaust, maybe one day soon.

Yeah I used to believe all of that same garbage too man. Then I found out about things like the Gleiwitz incident, fire bombing of Dresden, the Transfer Agreement, the Hindu, Muslim, North African, Russian, Polish and other soldiers who fought with the Nazis , the Jew Nazis, the French Nazis ,Hitlers driver was Jewish and awarded honorary Aryan status.

You believe in the NWO and think they manipulate world events, economic disasters and wars but they just all happened to be the good guys during WW2? I dont think Hitler was some saint I just think he represented everything they hate. He was an ultra nationalist and was throwing off their debt system. The French knew the Germans were arming and did nothing to stop them. To make matters worse all that came from ww2 was a Zionist state , 100 million + deaths from communism , the national security state, and lead the way for the United Nations/Global Governance. What family basically owns Israel? Wake up.

[maerilith]

hitler also survived to live on in south america in a palace also... there was some AnE history channel thing about "Finding Hitler" they pretty conclusively figured he didn't die and ended up leaving europe.

[Nihilist_santa]

hitler also survived to live on in south america in a palace also... there was some AnE history channel thing about "Finding Hitler" they pretty conclusively figured he didn't die and ended up leaving europe.

Yeah that Hearst family loves their Anti-Nazi propaganda. I believe he escaped as well but I find it funny that the only history on the History channel outside of rednecks and junk is always about WW2.

[Daywolf]

Yeah I used to believe all of that same garbage too man.I doubt it. You're talking about political views and such. I'm speaking from the history of world religions, ancient belief systems, and modern philosophies. Hitler was very much involved in that, as many others even today are as such; as ancient writings are very well likely held by secret societies in archives. The individual is only a participant, and sometimes unknowingly but propelled by others to a directed path.

That's why like I say I see strong proof in tower#7 but I am not sure if Bush was the culprit. Even if he did himself do it, it wasn't his idea, but that of others. But then in the Bush family disclosures, it fits well within it all, as so do the leaders of many other nations.

A carrot dangles in front of them, an old carrot at that, having been passed down generation to generation. And you know the famous movie quote "there can be only one". They all want to be that one, be it individually or as a network and share. But they are all fooled.

[maerilith]

Yeah that Hearst family loves their Anti-Nazi propaganda. I believe he escaped as well but I find it funny that the only history on the History channel outside of rednecks and junk is always about WW2.

Ohhh I actually agree with you on this lol.

And I found your other post pretty interesting too. Taking it with a grain of salt. But I can see were your coming from. Not sure if I'm ready to do research on hitler and his honorary Aryan Jewish Driver yet. But... damn sounds interesting.

Not surprised the holocaust encompassed a lot more then just jews I kind of assumed this.

Transsexuals were also murdered en masse

And I have a few good friends that believe between Hitlers relation to the Royal Family of Britain and all that, that that was totally a move to establish isreal. It doesn't make much sense to me though unless they felt absolutely perfectly secure in sacrificing the lives of millions to play a game. Which is pretty fucked and still makes the holocaust a real thing.

[Baler]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_seeding

The more you know. ;)

[Daywolf]

Poll is looking good :D I set it up just right so that at this point it forms into the profile image of a zombie as from the coming zombie apocalypse ;)
Well everyone loves a mystery.

[Nihilist_santa]

Ohhh I actually agree with you on this lol.

And I found your other post pretty interesting too. Taking it with a grain of salt. But I can see were your coming from. Not sure if I'm ready to do research on hitler and his honorary Aryan Jewish Driver yet. But... damn sounds interesting.

Not surprised the holocaust encompassed a lot more then just jews I kind of assumed this.

Transsexuals were also murdered en masse

And I have a few good friends that believe between Hitlers relation to the Royal Family of Britain and all that, that that was totally a move to establish isreal. It doesn't make much sense to me though unless they felt absolutely perfectly secure in sacrificing the lives of millions to play a game. Which is pretty fucked and still makes the holocaust a real thing.

Meh people can believe what they want. Its not hard especially back then to make people think there was an organized extermination. Then again it could have just been the fact they couldn't supply their prison camps due to non stop bombing campaigns. Then there were outbreaks of things like Typhus which killed a bunch of people which is also a reason for the delousing areas (Zyklon B).

How would the interned Japanese have looked if the war would have made it to the US mainland? Then there is the really obvious stuff like the "human lampshades". There was a documentary on Netflix by the same name recently where they made a big deal about this lampshade supposedly made from the skin of a Jewish prisoner. Cant recall which camp it was (Buchanwald maybe?) but the Allies basically marched all the people from the nearby town and showed them "what the Nazis did" and filmed all of it. Turns out at the end of the documentary the thing was tested and its like cow or goat skin. Total fabrication but somehow it found its way to a table in the middle of Buchanwald just in time to shame walk all of the locals through for their propaganda film.

[JurisDictum]

I think its more likely that Germany and some of these other places that ban Holocaust denial are just engaging in bad policy. It was probably a handful of politicians that wanted to make hey out of confronting Holocaust denial and being on the right side of history.

It's probably a bit exaggerated but it was horrible enough.

The reason places like France didn't respond to Hitler -- is because they thought he was full of shit at first. They assumed he was playing nationalist politics to consolidate his power and restore a bit of the German ego after WW1.

In WW1, war favored the defense. There were no tanks or planes and motorized vehicles were more rare. When you had artillary and trenches set up, good luck getting past it during WW1.

Generals in Germany -- like France and England -- assumed Hitlers plans would never work well in reality because their experience and education was from WW1. When one general finally confided that the men were unsure -- Hitler acted like Hitler and flipped out and punished the man. Eventually the army fell in line. Germans are damn good at engineering and there planes and tanks ended up tipping the balance in favor of offense.

See tanks can serve to protect infantry from machine guns as they close into the trenches. Planes are also very useful for bombing entrenched positions. Relatively cheap and effective anti-aircraft and anti-tank hardware wasn't yet developed. Motorization was a big deal for the German strategy of "Blitzkrieg" where enemy forces would be pierced and then German forced would penetrate deeply into enemy lines and come back from behind the rest of the enemy force.

A fun way to see how tanks changed things is to just watch the movie Fury (2014). But there was also some political ideas at the time that rendered places like France deeply skeptical there would ever be a major war again. WW1 was such a disaster for all those involved -- it was thought that everyone kind of learned their lesson. Unfortunately Chamberlain has provided a lot of ammunition for war hawks about "appeasement," and how everything is Hitler in 30s and you can never back down from a challenge.

[Daywolf]

meh hitler talk..

Now, in the category of "Clinton Body Count / 0bama birth cert / Benghazi" we can find some very eye-opening things :D So much could have been added, all very active conspiracies being played out in front of our eyes on a daily basis. And incidentally, some of these conspiracies are only indirectly linked to the NWO, though a result of it.

Now here is one worth note, the 0bama conspiracy(conclusive vid evidence):
Short intro (https://youtu.be/Et38_Ufv-Jw) (and it's pretty short :o )
The meat of the matter (https://youtu.be/gvuulZPbfBg)
Horrifying conclusion (https://youtu.be/yxiYIDrDBsY)

:eek:

[JurisDictum]

The craziest one I heard recently was that Sandy Hook was a government (or Obama-led) conspiracy to get gun round-ups politically popular.