2 in the morning then 2 in the afternoon.. pf pf pfff

[Daywolf]

Get this, new study on pot smokin:

New Study Shows Marijuana Can Alter DNA, Create Mutations (http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/pot-marijuana-changes-dna/2016/05/24/id/730531/) (short article)

"Through our research we found that cancers and illnesses were likely caused by cell mutations resulting from cannabis properties having a chemical interaction with a person's DNA," researcher Stuart Reece of the University of Western Australia said in a news release, the IBT Australia reports."

And they are saying that it can be passed onto your kids for generations. And not just from daily use, but even from limited use. So how's if feel to be a mutant? :D

I wonder what type they were using, all this new stuff is friggen strong from what I hear. 20-30 years ago it was pretty weak (yes fist hand exp :P back then anyway), had to use a lot to get a real effect, it was mostly mild. Some say it's GMO weed now, but no proof provided... though that may be difficult to provide if done years ago in secret labs.

I <3 Jim Beam (https://youtu.be/d62orckYWYY) :)

[radda]

I just got a dui smoking weed. They are afraid

[Daywolf]

I just got a dui smoking weed. They are afraid

http://i.imgur.com/PPBuXcG.gif

[Pokesan]

oi mate ozzy medical studies are of dubious value on this topic

[Swish]

What about some of the shit that comes out of people's car exhausts?

[surron]

all it says is that cannabis alters DNA structure and can cause cell mutations

but not all cell mutations are bad, the article just fear mongers and states how some cell mutation can cause cancer.

Mutations are rarely harmful though. Indeed, most mutations go unnoticed, as the body has mechanisms to stop a cell copying itself when a mutation occurs. Sometimes mutations can even benefit organisms and promote diversity in a species. When a mutation allows an organism to cope better with an environmental stress, it will be passed on to future generations through natural selection.

so everyone should smoke weed and pass on super powers to your children

[derpcake]

global science at one point declared asbestos a wonder product that had near unlimited applications, except it wasn't and is just too expensive to remove in many cases, so it just sits there and does its thing

http://www.asbestos.com/asbestos/

Mesothelioma is a rare and aggressive cancer – diagnosed in an estimated 3,000 Americans annually – caused almost exclusively by asbestos exposure. It involves the thin lining that surrounds organs in the chest and abdomen and kills an American every 3.4 hours.

/shrug

[maerilith]

There still are an estimated 3,000 cases of mesothelioma diagnosed annually in the U.S.

So were more likely to commit suicide from being trans (http://www.gendercentre.org.au/resources/polare-archive/archived-articles/how-many-of-us-are-there.htm) then die from mesothelioma (very slowly) from asbestos exposure decades ago?

I'm not saying asbestos is safe, or should be lauded as such, or used in an industrial way. But it's not as bad as it could be. Smoking just about anything and charing your lungs with excess pollutants is just about worse then very minimal exposure to asbestos.

Sadly people are dumb, and won't wear resperators or rebreathers while performing demolition. And my aunts are just as bad holy shit, they are dumb when they remodel and have no clue what the fuck they are exposing themselves to.

Pot isn't that great, but it could be worse. I wouldn't expect any likely beneficial mutations. There's better sources of DMT then ganja.

[Nihilist_santa]

So were more likely to commit suicide from being trans (http://www.gendercentre.org.au/resources/polare-archive/archived-articles/how-many-of-us-are-there.htm) then die from mesothelioma (very slowly) from asbestos exposure decades ago?

I'm not saying asbestos is safe, or should be lauded as such, or used in an industrial way. But it's not as bad as it could be. Smoking just about anything and charing your lungs with excess pollutants is just about worse then very minimal exposure to asbestos.

Sadly people are dumb, and won't wear resperators or rebreathers while performing demolition. And my aunts are just as bad holy shit, they are dumb when they remodel and have no clue what the fuck they are exposing themselves to.

Pot isn't that great, but it could be worse. I wouldn't expect any likely beneficial mutations. There's better sources of DMT then ganja.

You are a moron. Asbestos never leaves your lungs once it enters. Breathing "a little" is way more harmful than inhaling some smoke.

As far as trans and suicide what do you expect when being trans is a symptom of a mental disorder.

[maerilith]

your probably going to hemorage from drinking too much koolaid

yes asbestos is nasty and horrible, i didn't deny that, or downlplay the fact that your likely to die many years after exposure to just a small # of particles. just analyzing the stats from two articles and comparing them, both of which could be considered somewhat subjective or biased.

but rather then say what I just said, u got #mad

[Nihilist_santa]

your probably going to hemorage from drinking too much koolaid

yes asbestos is nasty and horrible, i didn't deny that, or downlplay the fact that your likely to die many years after exposure to just a small # of particles. just analyzing the stats from two articles and comparing them, both of which could be considered somewhat subjective or biased.

but rather then say what I just said, u got #mad

Yeah you pretty much did deny it when you said smoking is worse than asbestos. No one is mad here. I am used to correcting you at this point.

[Gorillas]

Get this, new study on pot smokin:

New Study Shows Marijuana Can Alter DNA, Create Mutations (http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/pot-marijuana-changes-dna/2016/05/24/id/730531/) (short article)

"Through our research we found that cancers and illnesses were likely caused by cell mutations resulting from cannabis properties having a chemical interaction with a person's DNA," researcher Stuart Reece of the University of Western Australia said in a news release, the IBT Australia reports."

And they are saying that it can be passed onto your kids for generations. And not just from daily use, but even from limited use. So how's if feel to be a mutant? :D

I wonder what type they were using, all this new stuff is friggen strong from what I hear. 20-30 years ago it was pretty weak (yes fist hand exp :P back then anyway), had to use a lot to get a real effect, it was mostly mild. Some say it's GMO weed now, but no proof provided... though that may be difficult to provide if done years ago in secret labs.

I <3 Jim Beam (https://youtu.be/d62orckYWYY) :)


That entire article is garbage, it's a peer reviewed article done by psychiatrist on the mutation of DNA published in a shit rag

[JurisDictum]

"Even if a mother has never used cannabis in her life, the mutations passed on by a father's sperm can cause serious and fatal illnesses in their children," he added. "The parents may not realize that they are carrying these mutations, which can lie dormant and may only affect generations down the track, which is the most alarming aspect."

yea I call bullshit. I think we would have noticed by now if the offspring of potheads have kids with fatal illnesses at a high rate.

Edit: Nielsen Online said Newsmax was the most trafficked conservative website with approximately 4 million unique visitors monthly.[9] A 2010 study released by Nielsen reported that Newsmax.com was the number one site for conservatives in the U.S., making it one of the most influential conservative news sites in the nation.[1]

Couldn't find info quick on Cathy Burke -- who wrote it. But Before I read an article about science, I always try to find out exactly who is writing it based on what study. Because the news has a huge habit of misleading people about science studies. My guess is Burke is a upper middle class women that went to a decent university for English, knows nothing about science, and has relentlessly conformist views on politics.

[JurisDictum]

lol, the comment section on conservative sites:

"Once convicted of selling baby body parts, the gov't is planning to make up for lost revenue by adding marijuana dispensary services to its Planned Parenthood clinics and covered under Obozocare. The medical benefits far out weigh the side effects, contradictory science deniers and investigative journalists proving otherwise will be prosecuted."

"Suddenly all the dots connect. Now I understand Obama, Reid, Pelosi, Feinstein, Boehner and the RINO gang, Bloomberg, Schumer, and all the others who can't get anything right. They're all a bunch of self-induced mutations. "

[Daywolf]

Couldn't find info quick on Cathy Burke -- who wrote it. But Before I read an article about science, I always try to find out exactly who is writing it based on what study.Wat?
So you are saying you didn't even read it, eh? And if you had bothered, rather than just reading the GhettoBook log-in comments below the article, you would have found a link to http://www.ibtimes.com.au/australian-scientists-reveal-grave-cannabis-effects-future-generations-through-dna-alteration in the first full paragraph. You can also find the journal here: http://www.journals.elsevier.com/mutation-research-fundamental-and-molecular-mechanisms-of-mutagenesis

And there are more articles reporting on this subject which are less than two days old released information fresher than a supermarket doughnut. This is breaking news, still only just started circulating before mainstream media picks it up as they always do with pot studies.

Oh I see what you are saying, because it was published on a site you politically disagree with, you refuse to be bothered with this. Gee, maybe I should throw a tantrum every time someone posts an article by a site I disagree with (including myself quite often), then delete my NY Times links, CNN links, MSNBC links etc, because that shat needs to be stomped out (I at least looked into your slanted MTV garbage vid you posted recently on white privilege, just lol). Damn, brb, I need to uninstall windows because Bill Gates is evil... and that's an understatement, he's a friggen monster I can give 10 reasons why and you won't find that any MSNBC link. He thinks you're the problem and you should depopulate yourself if he doesn't first.

What, you expect me to spoon feed you the truth (or something truthish), is that what you are used to? I don't always post shit I agree with, that's a fact. In this case I don't know if it's accurate or not, but it has nothing to do with the fucking website I linked or the columnist that reported it lol. But if I post crap I'm not sure about, maybe some good discussion can come of it (even if only some lame jokes), or even relevant and informative links by other posters here with breaking news on this.

[Ahldagor]

Article is click bait. The originating article is fear mongering.

[Ahldagor]

Daywolf, have you found the exact, cited paper the original article is referring to? The paper linked in your previous post only indicates a study done on mice and not humans. Mice aren't humans.

[JurisDictum]

Wat?
So you are saying you didn't even read it, eh? And if you had bothered, rather than just reading the GhettoBook log-in comments below the article, you would have found a link to http://www.ibtimes.com.au/australian-scientists-reveal-grave-cannabis-effects-future-generations-through-dna-alteration in the first full paragraph. You can also find the journal here: http://www.journals.elsevier.com/mutation-research-fundamental-and-molecular-mechanisms-of-mutagenesis

And there are more articles reporting on this subject which are less than two days old released information fresher than a supermarket doughnut. This is breaking news, still only just started circulating before mainstream media picks it up as they always do with pot studies.

Oh I see what you are saying, because it was published on a site you politically disagree with, you refuse to be bothered with this. Gee, maybe I should throw a tantrum every time someone posts an article by a site I disagree with (including myself quite often), then delete my NY Times links, CNN links, MSNBC links etc, because that shat needs to be stomped out (I at least looked into your slanted MTV garbage vid you posted recently on white privilege, just lol). Damn, brb, I need to uninstall windows because Bill Gates is evil... and that's an understatement, he's a friggen monster I can give 10 reasons why and you won't find that any MSNBC link. He thinks you're the problem and you should depopulate yourself if he doesn't first.

What, you expect me to spoon feed you the truth (or something truthish), is that what you are used to? I don't always post shit I agree with, that's a fact. In this case I don't know if it's accurate or not, but it has nothing to do with the fucking website I linked or the columnist that reported it lol. But if I post crap I'm not sure about, maybe some good discussion can come of it (even if only some lame jokes), or even relevant and informative links by other posters here with breaking news on this.

I'm not a scientist. So I take precautions to avoid the possibility that one nutty guy that knows more about science than I do convinces me that some BS politically motivated hypothesis of theirs is true.

It's not really the same as watching Bill'O talk politics.

[Paleman]

im guessing the study group on this was biased and the study wasnt duplicated.

so the real finding of the study is probably 4 out of 12 people had possible cell mutations from cannabis( even though they ingested tons of other shit while we did this test that may or may not be linked to cell mutation)

[maerilith]

Here's another anecdotal statistic. More people probably die from colon cancer and obesity directly related to using sit down in stead of squatting toilets then people die from asbestos related mesothelioma.

Also, I'm pretty sure all the dumb kids with autism today speaking in absolutes and being retards on these boards are probably from the hippees and weed mutations plus agent orange.

[Nihilist_santa]

^ Ha this thing talking about mutants.

[maerilith]

I "feel" like Nihilist_santa "may probably" have the "possibly" highest chances of dieing from colon and prostate cancer simultaneously out of "most everyone here".

<3

[maskedmelon]

Good point on squatting toilets. Didn't know of the cancer correlation of alternatives, but can definitely vouch for superiority of squatting toilets. They just work better. If you've never used one, I highly recommend you try it. It is a liberating, almost spiritual experience.

[Daywolf]

Daywolf, have you found the exact, cited paper the original article is referring to? The paper linked in your previous post only indicates a study done on mice and not humans. Mice aren't humans.
Nah not yet. I mean not drifting around the internuts in free form arrr. It's in that journal linked, and scientific research journals don't publish online like blogs.

I don't see anything about mice, but that would likely be part of the process especially determining generational mutations. We're not cactus either, but biologically closer to rodents and especially monkeys etc. Oh course you know, a pot study, they had lines of people to the door to test this shite out :D

Here is the official news release from the university two days ago Cannabis use linked to gene mutation (http://www.news.uwa.edu.au/201605248687/cannabis-linked-gene-mutation)
Then another industry news site picked it up yeaterday: Cannabis use alters DNA to increase disease risk, study says (http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/310534.php)
I've since heard a news report on it on AM radio. Mainstream media luvs this stuff, likely it'll start showing up soon on cable tv etc.

[Baler]

Genetically modified cannabis causes cancer.

'They' make more money off sick and dieing people then 'they' do off healthy people.

[Ahldagor]

Nah not yet. I mean not drifting around the internuts in free form arrr. It's in that journal linked, and scientific research journals don't publish online like blogs.

I don't see anything about mice, but that would likely be part of the process especially determining generational mutations. We're not cactus either, but biologically closer to rodents and especially monkeys etc. Oh course you know, a pot study, they had lines of people to the door to test this shite out :D

Here is the official news release from the university two days ago Cannabis use linked to gene mutation (http://www.news.uwa.edu.au/201605248687/cannabis-linked-gene-mutation)
Then another industry news site picked it up yeaterday: Cannabis use alters DNA to increase disease risk, study says (http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/310534.php)
I've since heard a news report on it on AM radio. Mainstream media luvs this stuff, likely it'll start showing up soon on cable tv etc.

I read what you had linked, and the study was only done on mice. There are a lot of holes in those studies, but the ethical limits of testing demand that lesser mammals be tested before humans. I'd like to see who funded the research grant too. The over arcing logic in the study is dubious because there are many factors that determine a mutation in dna. That it may be passed down to future generations is an aspect of evolution, so I lean towards the claim that the study is likely wrong in its conclusions due to the disproportionate factors of singling out smoking cannabis compared to a seemingly infinite amount of other variables.

[Pokesan]

Genetically modified cannabis causes cancer.

'They' make more money off sick and dieing people then 'they' do off healthy people.

found the luddite

[Baler]

found the luddite

Best step away before I call the mario bros. :rolleyes:

[Daywolf]

I read what you had linked, and the study was only done on mice. Again, where does it say that? There is no mention of it only being done on mice. Not from my links. I'm not saying it was or wasn't, but you are, so I'd like to see your reference, because it's false to attribute it to one of my reference links.

[Pokesan]

Best step away before I call the mario bros. :rolleyes:

my reptilian master will punish you for this post