Overwatch

[Trungep99]

who else got this wonderful game and is anyone looking to start a team? just for fun, nothing too hard core.

[Spyder73]

I keep hearing that Overwatch is really fun....

[Swish]

There's just something about giving Blizzard money that makes me not want to buy it.

I might cave, eventually.

[FoxxHound]

I enjoy it a lot, but I am a casual scumbag. So I'll probably drag the team down. I R Bad

[Trungep99]

There's just something about giving Blizzard money that makes me not want to buy it.

I might cave, eventually.

i really enjoy it, it feels fresh compared to other FPS

[xKoopa]

Someone told me its $40 :/

Im broke af right now but ill probly get it in a month or so

[Grubbz]

Someone told me its $40 :/

Im broke af right now but ill probly get it in a month or so

Its $40 on pc and $60 on consoles.

[Nirgon]

Location: Camelot



can't be bothered with an even more cartoony team fortress 2

[Thulack]

Yep. 12 hours of playing since launch. My main game for now. If your on PC and want to play some let me know.

[Thulack]

There's just something about giving Blizzard money that makes me not want to buy it.

I might cave, eventually.

I mean its only been what 14 years since WoW came out? I think you can stop holding a grudge now :P Obviously Blizzard has been the superior game company over Verant/Sony/Daybreak.

[Swish]

I mean its only been what 14 years since WoW came out? I think you can stop holding a grudge now :P Obviously Blizzard has been the superior game company over Verant/Sony/Daybreak.

That's not the problem. The problem is I bought Diablo 3, then shortly afterwards the D3 expansion came out and I didnt want to pay another $50 while owning what became half of a game.

Also Hearthstone matchmaking invites you to RMT for cards, because its totally fine that I get matched up against all gold decks when I've just finished getting my basic ones.

On top of that, TF2 is still fun. Do I really need a TF2 clone for £30 ($40)?

[Sage Truthbearer]

I guess Blizzard could have copied TF2 and made the game free-to-play and charged you $2.49 per key to open Mann Co. Supply Crates like TF2 does.. but something tells me you'd still be here complaining if they did.

Instead, they released a really polished game that costs $40. Any future DLCs, heroes, or maps will be patched in for free. You get loot crates in the game by simply playing, and it costs nothing to open them and equip their contents.

[Trungep99]

i have the PC version;
question, can the PC & counsel version play with one another?

[Trungep99]

That's not the problem. The problem is I bought Diablo 3, then shortly afterwards the D3 expansion came out and I didnt want to pay another $50 while owning what became half of a game.

Also Hearthstone matchmaking invites you to RMT for cards, because its totally fine that I get matched up against all gold decks when I've just finished getting my basic ones.

On top of that, TF2 is still fun. Do I really need a TF2 clone for £30 ($40)?

Overwatch is not a pay to win game. I believe you can only pay extra for (some not all) additional skins and such, but that doesn't take away from the game play. All characters & maps come with the game.

i have the PC version;
question, can the PC & counsel version play with one another?

[Uuruk]

I mean its only been what 14 years since WoW came out? I think you can stop holding a grudge now :P Obviously Blizzard has been the superior game company over Verant/Sony/Daybreak.

Wow came out at the end of 2004. Hope this helps in your math.

[JurisDictum]

In my experience, anyone actually above average at MOBA style games has played more than enough to unlock everything they use. It takes practice to get decent.

Here's the though process:

"Oh shit I lost -- because of my n00b team. Looks like thats my 3rd game going 1/5...It's because of I can't play any of the good champions -- yea that's it!"

[Thulack]

Wow came out at the end of 2004. Hope this helps in your math.

I did say "what 14 years". Honestly i wasnt even doing math i knew it came out betwen 2002 and 2005. I'm not a historian of MMORPG's and to when they came out and i'm sure as hell not wasting time looking it up just to make a comment on this forum lol.

[Thulack]

Overwatch is not a pay to win game. I believe you can only pay extra for (some not all) additional skins and such, but that doesn't take away from the game play. All characters & maps come with the game.

i have the PC version;
question, can the PC & counsel version play with one another?

No each console is separate server and PC also.

[Thulack]

That's not the problem. The problem is I bought Diablo 3, then shortly afterwards the D3 expansion came out and I didnt want to pay another $50 while owning what became half of a game.

Also Hearthstone matchmaking invites you to RMT for cards, because its totally fine that I get matched up against all gold decks when I've just finished getting my basic ones.

On top of that, TF2 is still fun. Do I really need a TF2 clone for £30 ($40)?

You know there are super cheap decks that actually do well vs any kind of deck right? Look up Budget Hearthstone decks and enjoy. D3 i'll give that to you. It was a shit game when it came out and probably still is.

[xKoopa]

In fairness everyone knew D3 was shit before it even released

[Lune]

Reasons Blizzard sucks:

1. Killing Nost and summarily refusing to even visit classic WoW, stating "You think you want vanilla WoW, but you don't", meanwhile, 800,000 people playing Nost or some other vanilla private server

2. Linking USA raid finder / dungeon finder with South American, Mexican, and Russian servers.

3. Continual incompetence and inability to design fun, innovative mechanics.

4. Terrible art direction (http://i.imgur.com/r3bqxIn.jpg)

[JurisDictum]

Reasons Blizzard sucks:

1. Killing Nost and summarily refusing to even visit classic WoW, stating "You think you want vanilla WoW, but you don't", meanwhile, 800,000 people playing Nost or some other vanilla private server


I played classic WoW on release, was the first in Black Rock Spire and Black Rock Depths on my server etc.

I have a feeling it would be a lot like people who think that p99 will be like classic EQ...it won't. They will probably get there and just want BC to be released.

I say that because I never played classic EQ until this server. Now that I have...I want to just go to PoP. If I played it in the first place, I doubt I would have lasted a few months here.

But 800,000 does sound like a lot. The real reason they didn't do it is because game companies don't really do that -- revert what they see as progress. And lets face it -- it brings up a lot of debate about what bugs should be reintroduced.

[Sage Truthbearer]

3. Continual incompetence and inability to design fun, innovative mechanics.

The thing is, Blizzard isn't trying to revolutionize gaming mechanics. What Blizzard is really good at doing is taking already-existing mechanics and making a super polished version of them. That's basically what Overwatch is. They took TF2 combined it with elements from the MOBA genre and made a very smooth, polished successor to it.

They've been doing this forever. From Hearthstone to HoTS, WoW, etc. The only arguably unique game you could say they've mad has been the Diablo franchise. Other than that, they've never been in the business of making the next Minecraft.

[DMN]

I have a long history of bad experiences with blizzard.

I had someone loot hack my corpse in diablo 2 and posted on the forums with a screen shoot of it happening. Ended up with my forum account being banned, though it violated no rules. In fact, when people would "claim" they were loot hacked, people would post things like "screenshots or it didn't happen".

Had my main account on WoW banned back in the day for killing stuff in molten core before we were supposed to be killing stuff in there -- there was no warning or anything that you should not be in there. We were "just supposed to know," apparently. They wer just mad we were already trivializing their shit content.


After repeatedly criticizing hearthstone for it's continue reliance on the RNG to keep weaker payers winning games so they feel better about themselves instead of actually getting good at the game instead, I got banned from there, too.

Blizzard vultures can suck my cock, basically. I'll never buy anything from those asshats again.

[Thulack]

I have a long history of bad experiences with blizzard.

I had someone loot hack my corpse in diablo 2 and posted on the forums with a screen shoot of it happening. Ended up with my forum account being banned, though it violated no rules. In fact, when people would "claim" they were loot hacked, people would post things like "screenshots or it didn't happen".

Had my main account on WoW banned back in the day for killing stuff in molten core before we were supposed to be killing stuff in there -- there was no warning or anything that you should not be in there. We were "just supposed to know," apparently. They wer just mad we were already trivializing their shit content.


After repeatedly criticizing hearthstone for it's continue reliance on the RNG to keep weaker payers winning games so they feel better about themselves instead of actually getting good at the game instead, I got banned from there, too.

Blizzard vultures can suck my cock, basically. I'll never buy anything from those asshats again.
Seems like you should just stay off forums :)

[AzzarTheGod]

That's not the problem. The problem is I bought Diablo 3, then shortly afterwards the D3 expansion came out and I didnt want to pay another $50 while owning what became half of a game.

Also Hearthstone matchmaking invites you to RMT for cards, because its totally fine that I get matched up against all gold decks when I've just finished getting my basic ones.

On top of that, TF2 is still fun. Do I really need a TF2 clone for £30 ($40)?

Haven't spent a single dollar on Diablo 3. Feels good. What a waste of money yikes.

[DMN]

blatantly obvious you got trolled and broke some forum rule or other in an autistic tantrum. you're still mad about someone trolling you with "screenshots or it didnt happen" 15 years ago? if you actually didnt break any forum rules i would gain respect for blizz admins for that ban

Nope. No rules were broken. And no one trolled my post. Basically, blizzard was lying and saying there were no loot hacks going on and that the claims were completely bogus. Reality was they existd but blizzard didn't know how they were being done or had not been abl to ix it yet. The screenshots i posted clearly showed the loot hack in process. The hacker also had a typical D2 "korean name", and blizzard id especially protective of their asian clientele.

Oh and i forgot to mention I got my altrnate WOW account banned for using a legit pulling strategy tfor killing certain molten core bosses without having to kill the trash in front of them. Skipping their shit content was also apparently bannable.

[AzzarTheGod]

The thing is, Blizzard isn't trying to revolutionize gaming mechanics. What Blizzard is really good at doing is taking already-existing mechanics and making a super polished version of them. That's basically what Overwatch is. They took TF2 combined it with elements from the MOBA genre and made a very smooth, polished successor to it.

They've been doing this forever. From Hearthstone to HoTS, WoW, etc. The only arguably unique game you could say they've mad has been the Diablo franchise. Other than that, they've never been in the business of making the next Minecraft.

EQ Next was going to be based on Overwatch MOBA design pretty much a straight direct copy and paste.

Overwatch is EQ Next in many ways. So if you were going to check out EQ Next combat, this is the combat system it had being used in Overwatch.

MOBA style is the future of MMO combat. City of Heroes style. etc.

Team Fortress 2 kicks shit out of Overwatch though. Not even close. Most of the people replying here have spent thousands and thousands of dollars on Blizzard games. They buy the latest piece of shit.

<--- 0 Dollars spent on D3. If you can't say that you have no credibility.

[Grubbz]

EQ Next was going to be based on Overwatch MOBA design pretty much a straight direct copy and paste.

Overwatch is EQ Next in many ways. So if you were going to check out EQ Next combat, this is the combat system it had being used in Overwatch.

MOBA style is the future of MMO combat. City of Heroes style. etc.

Team Fortress 2 kicks shit out of Overwatch though. Not even close. Most of the people replying here have spent thousands and thousands of dollars on Blizzard games. They buy the latest piece of shit.

<--- 0 Dollars spent on D3. If you can't say that you have no credibility.

Lol i have played TF2 for years and overwatch is by far better. You're either a blizzard hater or a tf2 fanboy but i can assure you, there are more people playing overwatch then there are playing tf2.

[AzzarTheGod]

Lol i have played TF2 for years and overwatch is by far better. You're either A, a blizzard hater, B, a TF2 Fanboy or C, Both.

You bought Diablo 3.

You have no cred sorry man u have been sucking Blizzard dick longer than anybody here.

Overwatch is better how? 21 classes?



Face it, Blizz has always been overrated at best and now is nothing more than a marketable name that has been integrated into a larger, more Jewish organism.

my *****.

[Breeziyo]

The thing is, Blizzard isn't trying to revolutionize gaming mechanics. What Blizzard is really good at doing is taking already-existing mechanics and making a super polished version of them. That's basically what Overwatch is. They took TF2 combined it with elements from the MOBA genre and made a very smooth, polished successor to it.

They've been doing this forever. From Hearthstone to HoTS, WoW, etc. The only arguably unique game you could say they've mad has been the Diablo franchise. Other than that, they've never been in the business of making the next Minecraft.

this. It pays off really well for them most of the time.

I have about 500 hours in TF2 (mostly spent as scout and soldier) and have watched quite a bit of competitive play over the years. I prefer Overwatch 100x over. There is just SO much player freedom in how someone can approach playing every character.

Don't let the failures of the modern Diablo and WoW team dissuade you from giving this game a shot. Overwatch has that old Blizzard love ingrained in it.

Also, Lucio is basically a support scout and it's amazing.

[AzzarTheGod]

I have about 500 hours in TF2 (mostly spent as scout and soldier) and have watched quite a bit of competitive play over the years. I prefer Overwatch 100x over. There is just SO much player freedom in how someone can approach playing every character.


So shiny and new? The 21 classes being mentioned as the only selling point, yet again.

[Breeziyo]

So shiny and new? The 21 classes being mentioned as the only selling point, yet again.

To put it more bluntly, it could have the same amount of classes that TF2 has and as long as the characters and maps still had that level of freedom, it would blow TF2 the fuck out.

[Grubbz]

So shiny and new? The 21 classes being mentioned as the only selling point, yet again.

21 classes? wtf are you talking about, you're just hating for the sake of hating. Overwatch doesn't have any classes, its not wow.

[Breeziyo]

21 classes? wtf are you talking about, you're just hating for the sake of hating. Overwatch doesn't have any classes, its not wow.

He's trying his hardest to dumb down Overwatch so that he can attack it.

[AzzarTheGod]

21 classes? wtf are you talking about, you're just hating for the sake of hating. Overwatch doesn't have any classes, its not wow.

It has classes, sorry to inform you of this.

It totals up to 21 combinations. Are 21 combinations, that's right, CLASSES, all viable and necessary and fit into a place in the game? Or is it just a big gimmick to sell some boxes and give you shiny and new?

[Breeziyo]

It has classes, sorry to inform you of this.

It totals up to 21 combinations. Are 21 combinations, that's right, CLASSES, all viable and necessary and fit into a place in the game? Or is it just a big gimmick to sell some boxes and give you shiny and new?

Given the nature of how the game is supposed to be played, i.e team balancing by switching heroes mid game depending on where you are on the map and what your enemy team composition is: yes to the former, no to the latter.

[DMN]

I think the updated over the shoulder on tracer is much more flattering for her ass. But i bet the SJW found something else to set themselves on fire over by now.

[AzzarTheGod]

I think the updated over the shoulder on tracer is much more flattering for her ass. But i bet the SJW found something else to set themselves on fire over by now.

Sorry if you couldn't see that...The whole thing was fake to generate viral mainstream press, and get people searching for the game and the pic of the ass. Forbes magazine covered the story etc. as well as mega journalist websites.

Guess you missed all the press the PR stunt generated. It wasn't some gaming website shit pal, it went mainstream.

Widowmakers ass stands and was always way more over the top. The Tracer thing was literally engineered press PR stunt by Blizzard.

Wake up dude. Just another reason to not buy the game and not support Blizzard.

[AzzarTheGod]

And here it is in action boys

lol'd these fanboys stay piped by their favorite scumbag mega corp pulling the strings on them.

[Thulack]

EQ Next was going to be based on Overwatch MOBA design pretty much a straight direct copy and paste.

Overwatch is EQ Next in many ways. So if you were going to check out EQ Next combat, this is the combat system it had being used in Overwatch.

MOBA style is the future of MMO combat. City of Heroes style. etc.

Team Fortress 2 kicks shit out of Overwatch though. Not even close. Most of the people replying here have spent thousands and thousands of dollars on Blizzard games. They buy the latest piece of shit.

<--- 0 Dollars spent on D3. If you can't say that you have no credibility.

Played i think a month of WoW back in vanilla. Never played D3(played D2 and enjoyed it very much for a few years). Never played SC2. Tried HotS when it came out and basically its just a waterdown version of LoL so wasnt really impressed. Ive probably played maybe 100 or so matches in Hearthstone and bought the first expansion pack or whatever it was for 20 bucks for something to do. Was ok and i still play it occasionally(probably not as much now as it was my 10-15 min timekiller and now overwatch has that slot). Overwatch is just a very fun game that combines things i like(FPS and MOBA). So no probably not most of the people here have given blizzard thousands of dollars but i will give a game credit when its due and not just dismiss it because of the company it has come from.

[Thulack]

It has classes, sorry to inform you of this.

It totals up to 21 combinations. Are 21 combinations, that's right, CLASSES, all viable and necessary and fit into a place in the game? Or is it just a big gimmick to sell some boxes and give you shiny and new?

No there is 5 categories of characters and there are 21 characters that each have between 4 and 6 abilities that are on timers that make you use strategy on when you use said abilites in a team effort to secure/defend a objective.

[Thulack]

a "character" is a class plus a marketable character model/voice

it is very much like a iryd overwatch fan type to retreat into babby semantic arguments tho. keep doin whachu doin rock your own alternative punk style brought to you by hot topic™.

i consider the "class" more the offensive/defensive/support/builder category.

[Iandyan]

It's a fun game.

Console version went down to $50.00

I played throughout closed beta so I feel that I already got my money's worth many times over.

I guess if you can't afford 40-50 bucks you have other issues to worry about in life.

[iruinedyourday]

Of course they're all vital.

The healer character who runs around with a useless gun and passively heals anyone within radius is vital to gamergirl streamers who can't play games. The reaper character with the mask from Dishonored is vital to people who like Bethesda games and Assassin's Creed. Hanzo is vital to "weebs" who play shitty Western games with inferior fanservice. The engineer guy is vital because "it's like TF2 but new and better". And Tracer and her ass animation were absolutely instrumental to the viral marketing campaign.

Do the rest. What's pharah?

[iruinedyourday]

I'm not 100% sure what a kang is but these are so good do the rest plz

[AzzarTheGod]

It's a fun game.

Console version went down to $50.00

I played throughout closed beta so I feel that I already got my money's worth many times over.

I guess if you can't afford 40-50 bucks you have other issues to worry about in life.

I can afford it and I am looking for a game to buy.

I'm eyeing DS3, Overwatch, and The Division...well that's it I guess.

I just have serious concerns about gimmicks based on the way Overwatch was marketed. Its art style is a little more gimmicky than WoW/Leagues and certainly DOTA. I am also not a huge fan of corporate Blizzard, as their track record is dogshit since the merge. SC2 is a terrible game, and D3 robbed so many people blind.

I'm afraid this is somehow reflected in the gameplay but so far the reviews of the gameplay are "ok" but not stellar. I am guessing its a decent enough game for casuals or Blizzard wouldn't have greenlit it and spent so much money on it, BUT can it sustain extreme competitive play like Team Fortress 2 can? Y/N.

IRYD chime in on what games out of the 3 listed above you own.

[JurisDictum]

3) Diablo 3 – Stop complaining about when it released – the current incarnation makes it the best ARPG to ever exist, there is literally no better ARPG...Path of Exile? LAWL


I agree for the most part. D3 was terrible at launch -- and Jay Wilson was the opposite of responsive. He actually continued to make things worse until they "transferred" him. Everyone in here bashing Blizzard is evidence of how disappointing most people found the game.

If it was released in its current form, I don't think there would have been all this anger. Some people were probably simply realizing they hate action RPGs for the first time. That shit is for teenagers.

Edit: I liked warcraft 3. It was skill based, even if the BM and DH were kind of lame. Blizzard went down hill after Vanilla WoW -- and it is directly traceable to them being bought out and put under the thump of corporate shill named Robert Kotick.

[Swish]

Blizzard is the best video game developer….ever? I don’t think that’s an exaggeration. I have never played a Blizzard game that wasn’t head and shoulders the best game on the market at the time of its release.

1) Diablo 1 – pretty much revolutionary and created an entire genre
2) Diablo 2 – Can’t count how many hours I spent on this game in high school – a genre defining game that set a new standard
3) Diablo 3 – Stop complaining about when it released – the current incarnation makes it the best ARPG to ever exist, there is literally no better ARPG...Path of Exile? LAWL
4) Warcraft 1 – one of my first computer games that I owned, pioneered RTS genre – How can you not love Warcraft
5) Warcraft 2 – For me this is the defining Warcraft game and one I have played countless times
6) Warcraft 3 – Started going off the plantation here and mixing up the formula, but its still an awesome game with legit expansions. Game is great and better than anything else that was out at the time.
7) Starcraft 1 – There are TV stations in Korea that do nothing but televise Starcraft matches….enough said
8) Starcraft 2 – I have not played legacy of the void, but I challenge anyone to find a better single player RTS experience than any of new SC games – fun level 10/10
9) World of Warcraft – love it or hate it, this game is what made computer games popular to an entire generation of gamers
10) Hearthstone – never played, seems like a kiddy game for FGTs
11) Overwatch - ??? Will most likely follow the same path of EVERY OTHER Blizzard game they have ever made.

People who say they hate Blizzard make me want to punch them in the face, they are the best video game developer in the history of video games

so good that you forgot about Heroes of the Storm...survey says both LoL and DOTA2 are more popular.

[maskedmelon]

I was neve able to get into a Blizzard game. Diablo II was kind of fun, but repetitive and tiring. Starcraft was ok, but I liked Age of Empires better. Never played WoW.

[Lojik]

Just waitin on bannerlord myself

[Iandyan]

playing a fps on a console: check
game is "marked down" to $50: check
"if you think the price is a rip you are inferior" keeping up with the joneses, with 100% probability that maker of statement is far from achieving any true financial independence or security and wouldnt leave much to his heirs if he died today but his life insurance: check

this post is like an onion: the more you peel it the more it stinks. you epitomize goy

Lotta emotions in this post. Sorry you can't afford video games.

[Iandyan]

I can afford it and I am looking for a game to buy.

I'm eyeing DS3, Overwatch, and The Division...well that's it I guess.

I just have serious concerns about gimmicks based on the way Overwatch was marketed. Its art style is a little more gimmicky than WoW/Leagues and certainly DOTA. I am also not a huge fan of corporate Blizzard, as their track record is dogshit since the merge. SC2 is a terrible game, and D3 robbed so many people blind.

I'm afraid this is somehow reflected in the gameplay but so far the reviews of the gameplay are "ok" but not stellar. I am guessing its a decent enough game for casuals or Blizzard wouldn't have greenlit it and spent so much money on it, BUT can it sustain extreme competitive play like Team Fortress 2 can? Y/N.

IRYD chime in on what games out of the 3 listed above you own.

Haven't played division or DS3 so I can't comment on any comparisons to them.

All I can say is that it's held my attention for 6+ months already and I'm still having fun with it.

[Nirgon]

we played the "throw tornados into a wall" Diablo 3 patch

wasn't as bad as the "do algebra to figure out turret break points" demon hunter patch with invincible monks


Blizzard games: never again

They try to homogenize and simplify everything down to the point you'd think nothing could be retarded or imbalanced, but still it happens and is the case... with a big generous helping of bland McDonald's quality crap mechanics that just aren't even interesting. Their shit is geared for casuals, period and the "elite content" they try to shoe horn in is just bland icing on top of a shit cake.

Check out Paragon like some grown ass men why don't yawl?

[Odann]

I can afford it and I am looking for a game to buy.

I'm eyeing DS3, Overwatch, and The Division...well that's it I guess.


Those games are all quite different. So it really depends on what you're looking for in a game.

I will say Overwatch is going to be widely successful and anyone that thinks otherwise is kidding themselves with some weird form of blind Blizzard hatred. It's a video game company, get over it. Also, anyone who hates Blizzard might actually have down syndrome.

Couple things about Overwatch:

No, it probably isn't worth $60 because a game like Secret Ponchos (Free on PSN @ one point and $20 from the tiny indie company that made it) was equally fun and had ALMOST as much depth. It just had less maps and characters to choose from than Overwatch. Same type of game, one isometric, one not. Does any of this matter? No, not really but this is a great example of how brilliant Blizzard is at creating a self sustaining economy for a game.

Here is what will happen. They will release DLC across all platforms (in about 6-12 months if not sooner) in the form of characters and maps. That's probably it and honestly that's probably all they will need to keep this game successful. Being a matchmaking game allows them to keep costs down by having minimal dev maintenance and keeps the customer base somewhat pleased with constant new content.

The game itself...is fairly badass. It has some MOBA-quality-style-teamwork, in that synergy is highly important yet it has the feel of a gritty-arena-FPS. I imagine I will burn out much faster than any MMO I have ever played purely because this is just a casual game. It may end being an e-sport, sure, but this is not a game that has any sort of progression and the gratification is instant.

Glad I spent money on it and well aware we all overpaid but it's a fun ass game with how plagued the MMO scene is right now.

#WhereIsPantheonBrad?

[Sage Truthbearer]

Their shit is geared for casuals

Isn't that okay, though?

There is a place in the market for developers like Blizzard that make casual-friendly games. And there is a place for developers like Fromsoft that make games like Dark Souls. Both of these things can co-exist.

I don't play HoTS because I like when MOBAs require a lot of mechanical skill and are highly competitive, so I play DoTA instead. But Blizzard's casual-friendly approach works great for me on Overwatch because I suck at fps' and the game has interesting content, runs smoothly, and is fun to play.

[Nirgon]

yes this is my personal bias

my desire for depth and beardery does not apply to all

if you like it, fine with me and I won't attack

D3 and WoW Pandaria really left a bad taste in my mouth... Legacy of the Void was OK, didn't play very much multiplayer as I burned out on doing that in the initial launch and following expac, with very little for me there in terms of buying value as far as multiplayer

I obviously fantasize about being molested by the initial learning curve of Dark Souls 3 again

Check out Paragon tho

[Thulack]

Those games are all quite different. So it really depends on what you're looking for in a game.

I will say Overwatch is going to be widely successful and anyone that thinks otherwise is kidding themselves with some weird form of blind Blizzard hatred. It's a video game company, get over it. Also, anyone who hates Blizzard might actually have down syndrome.

Couple things about Overwatch:

No, it probably isn't worth $60 because a game like Secret Ponchos (Free on PSN @ one point and $20 from the tiny indie company that made it) was equally fun and had ALMOST as much depth. It just had less maps and characters to choose from than Overwatch. Same type of game, one isometric, one not. Does any of this matter? No, not really but this is a great example of how brilliant Blizzard is at creating a self sustaining economy for a game.

Here is what will happen. They will release DLC across all platforms (in about 6-12 months if not sooner) in the form of characters and maps. That's probably it and honestly that's probably all they will need to keep this game successful. Being a matchmaking game allows them to keep costs down by having minimal dev maintenance and keeps the customer base somewhat pleased with constant new content.

The game itself...is fairly badass. It has some MOBA-quality-style-teamwork, in that synergy is highly important yet it has the feel of a gritty-arena-FPS. I imagine I will burn out much faster than any MMO I have ever played purely because this is just a casual game. It may end being an e-sport, sure, but this is not a game that has any sort of progression and the gratification is instant.

Glad I spent money on it and well aware we all overpaid but it's a fun ass game with how plagued the MMO scene is right now.

#WhereIsPantheonBrad?

Its already a Esport. There are tourneys being held and leagues being run for it already and it hasnt even gotten its competitive feature yet.

[Trungep99]

10) Hearthstone – never played, seems like a kiddy game for FGTs


Why would you allow yourself to miss out on such a fun game? love this game; although i do say it is geared towards the long term players over newbies because the long term players have more cards. even with that said; i highly recommend you give this a shot.

And it works on your phone!!

[Odann]

Its already a Esport. There are tourneys being held and leagues being run for it already and it hasnt even gotten its competitive feature yet.


Oh really? I thought it was just being tossed around.

That's awesome, didn't think they had held any tourney's yet.

[Thulack]

Oh really? I thought it was just being tossed around.

That's awesome, didn't think they had held any tourney's yet.

Blizzard hasnt done any yet that i am aware of but all the other companies that run leagues and tourneys for other esports have hopped on the Overwatch train pretty quickly.

[AzzarTheGod]

HotS flopped. The polls came in and numbers are low.

Paragon looks like a solid alternative to Overwatch.

[Swish]

Blizzard hasnt done any yet that i am aware of but all the other companies that run leagues and tourneys for other esports have hopped on the Overwatch train pretty quickly.

They need to start before the hype dies out.

[Swish]

Why would you allow yourself to miss out on such a fun game? love this game; although i do say it is geared towards the long term players over newbies because the long term players have more cards. even with that said; i highly recommend you give this a shot.

And it works on your phone!!

If they fix the matchmaking system for non-ranked games it could be a lot more enjoyable...but then maybe people wouldn't RMT for cards so much.

[Thulack]

They need to start before the hype dies out.

Pretty sure they want to get ranked setup first before they actually start working the Esports scene. The tournies on twitch and the big streamers loving the game will keep the hype around long enough.

[Grubbz]

If they fix the matchmaking system for non-ranked games it could be a lot more enjoyable...but then maybe people wouldn't RMT for cards so much.

Matchmaking is fine, Get Gud Maybe?

[-TK-]

Level 12 and lookin' to play with some folks with voice comms that will work together. These random games with no teamwork are killin' me. KrazedKoala on Battlenet. Trying to learn all heros so will adapt to game as needed.

[Grubbz]

IGN gave overrwatch a 9.4 out of 10 and i gotta admit, i agree with them.

[FoxxHound]

My only complaint with Overwatch it matchmaking atm. Kinda not fun being a level 6 and facing off against level 35-50 people. Most of which put time in the Beta as well. So they just stomp shit out.
It would be like someone playing CSGO for the first time, and having 4 hours of the game time. Going up against people who have easily played near 100 hours.
I guess the one good thing to come from this; now I have some high levels on my friends list who have been playing since Beta, and they know pretty in depth on how the characters work.

[Grubbz]

This kinda reminds me of when league / hots came out and people were hating on league and praising hots for being a dota clone, guess which 1 died out? its the same deal with overwatch / paragon / battleborn. Overwatch will still be around in 5 years, the other 2 wont.

[iruinedyourday]

yea but paragon appeals to just a smaller demographic.. its for those people that like hang out in wierd forums online 17 years after a game launched. So as long as the company is run well that one could last a long while.

Battleborn? yea that one will probably have its niche at costplay cons and shit but thats about it.

[AzzarTheGod]

yea but paragon appeals to just a smaller demographic.. its for those people that like hang out in wierd forums online 17 years after a game launched. So as long as the company is run well that one could last a long while.


How so? What is your experience? I get the sense that you are BSing.

[iruinedyourday]

How so? What is your experience? I get the sense that you are BSing.

You can call my observations bs anytime pal I'm sorry i decapitated your favorite homeless vagrant

I'm referring to a complex game vs a casual game and paragon skews more towards the home world style gaming nerds not the blizzard ones

[Thulack]

Here is a good review and basics of the game for people that are interested http://www.pcgamer.com/overwatch-review/?utm_content=bufferf7648&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=buffer_pcgamer

[AzzarTheGod]

You can call my observations bs anytime pal I'm sorry i decapitated your favorite homeless vagrant

I'm referring to a complex game vs a casual game and paragon skews more towards the home world style gaming nerds not the blizzard ones

nm I get what you are saying now. I thought you were bashing paragon, my bad dawg. I was reading your post looking for a beta review.

[Odann]

My only complaint with Overwatch it matchmaking atm. Kinda not fun being a level 6 and facing off against level 35-50 people. Most of which put time in the Beta as well. So they just stomp shit out.
It would be like someone playing CSGO for the first time, and having 4 hours of the game time. Going up against people who have easily played near 100 hours.
I guess the one good thing to come from this; now I have some high levels on my friends list who have been playing since Beta, and they know pretty in depth on how the characters work.

I would bet you are playing on PC.

Playing Overwatch on console in infinitely better. I haven't seen anyone higher than level 15 or 20 yet.

The game is quite balanced and the only difference in level is time. You can figure out multiple characters in a single 1-2 hour session. During the 5 day beta on PS4 I only got to level 13 and I am comfortable with about 10 different characters. My buddy and I started the fresh launch on PS4 2 days ago and we have lost one game. One.

This game is superior on console.

[Grubbz]

Got this game for the PS4 but ill prob end up buying another copy for the PC just so i can play with friends who only play the PC version.

[iruinedyourday]

This game is superior on console.

This may not be the stupidest thing anyone's ever said but it sure is a tribute.

[Thulack]

I would bet you are playing on PC.

Playing Overwatch on console in infinitely better. I haven't seen anyone higher than level 15 or 20 yet.

The game is quite balanced and the only difference in level is time. You can figure out multiple characters in a single 1-2 hour session. During the 5 day beta on PS4 I only got to level 13 and I am comfortable with about 10 different characters. My buddy and I started the fresh launch on PS4 2 days ago and we have lost one game. One.

This game is superior on console.

120 FPS > 60 FPS.

[AzzarTheGod]

This may not be the stupidest thing anyone's ever said but it sure is a tribute.

will u play the beta at all?

[iruinedyourday]

of what? para? Yes

overwatch matchmaking does suck though it regulary sets up teams of 6 30+ players against a team of level 1-14 level players. Regularly.

[Odann]

This may not be the stupidest thing anyone's ever said but it sure is a tribute.

120 FPS > 60 FPS.

Lol yaw, have fun with the hacking.

[Thulack]

Lol yaw, have fun with the hacking.

I can live with occasional hacker for better performance. They will be handled with accordingly.Consoles have aim assist and wont have a esports scene to keep entertained. Rather just play on PC.

[Grubbz]

I can live with occasional hacker for better performance. They will be handled with accordingly.Consoles have aim assist and wont have a esports scene to keep entertained. Rather just play on PC.

There is no aim assist on ps4 or xbox one versions of overwatch.

[AzzarTheGod]

There is no aim assist on ps4 or xbox one versions of overwatch.

Sure there isn't....not officially anyway.

[Odann]

Sure there isn't....not officially anyway.

Kek.

Consoles have aim assist and wont have a esports scene to keep entertained. Rather just play on PC.

I think you'll be surprised on both of those fronts. The playing field is far more balanced on PS4 in terms of performance. It would actually represent a more legitimate e-sport following because of this.

[iruinedyourday]

And now we my have just heard literally the stupidest thing ever said congrats

[Thulack]

193 ranked Roadhog!! :P

[Odann]

And now we my have just heard literally the stupidest thing ever said congrats

Sorry you're not good @ video games.

Hope this helps.

[FoxxHound]

193 ranked Roadhog!! :P

lol. I play Tracer and Genji. I hate really good Roadhogs, and Widowmakers

[Swish]

I play Widowmaker as a jungler :p