Another mass shooting, biggest death toll in US History

[barrettdc1]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/orlando-fla-ap-gunman-wielding-000000701.html

Looks like another incident involving a mudslime. Religion of piece, am i rite?

[Nihilist_santa]

http://i.imgur.com/RWbG7eF.jpg

[Nihilist_santa]

Kind of torn on this incident. On one hand dude just nabbed the highest score against as I saw on one blog this morning " a non reproducing disease vector" . On the other hand we cant let foreign browns come over here and take the job of killing America away from US browns.

[sOurDieSel]

He was just trying to culturally enrich the GRIDs night club. Don't you love diversity, goyim? We need to import millions upon millions of these people into the USA because you know... "The Religion of Peace."

[Doors]

Quick lets blame guns.

[Nihilist_santa]

Yeah will be interesting to see where this goes. They will get lots of sympathy for the special snowflakes. Reminded me of the Australian nightclub shooting the Port Arthur massacre.

[Lune]

Muslim speaker saying gays should die at an Orlando Mosque in April (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBlwxqqAprQ)

[Nihilist_santa]

Muslim speaker saying gays should die at an Orlando Mosque in April (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBlwxqqAprQ)

Allah was merciful today. In Afghanistan they would be thrown from the roof of a building and stoned for good measure.

[Pokesan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulPgWVC08KI

[iruinedyourday]

I'm is nice when world religions can put aside their petty differences about God & unite in their hate for homosexuals amiright?

[Swish]

Quick lets blame guns.

[sOurDieSel]

Will this lower Muslims standing on the SJW Totem Pole or will it just raise Gays to a higher tier?

[barrettdc1]

Will this lower Muslims standing on the SJW Totem Pole or will it just raise Gays to a higher tier?

The media is already starting to push the focus on the fact he used a semi-auto rifle and not that he was muslim and someone who was sympathetic towards ISIS.

[Lune]

Quick lets blame guns.

Just saying this to piss of conservatives, because I love guns, but this doesn't happen nearly as much in non-hyper-individualistic non-gun-nut cultures.

The USA is a deadly combination of a general lack of social cohesion/checks and balances for alienation/isolation/mental illness, and the widespread availability of firearms.

I don't blame guns, I blame Reagan

[iruinedyourday]

Let's not forget this was an american who's only ties to Muslim were though the Internet in his Florida bubble.

This is a sick man who needed help and got none and lived in an American bubble.

[iruinedyourday]

Will this lower Muslims standing on the SJW Totem Pole or will it just raise Gays to a higher tier?

It all depends on where this loweres people like you, which strawman will you blame?

[maskedmelon]

Also just a coincidence that it happened during Ramadan. Japanese embassy warns their people at the onset of Ramadan. Especially with regard to fridays.

[Pokesan]

Quick lets blame guns.

http://i.imgur.com/2SB8arQ.jpg

[Lune]

Israeli flag flying at gay pride parade. I'm not sure what exactly Israel has to do with gay pride but this should whip the conspiracy nuts into a frenzy

http://i.imgur.com/R2HeQJs.jpg

[mr_jon3s]

Kind of torn on this incident. On one hand dude just nabbed the highest score against as I saw on one blog this morning " a non reproducing disease vector" . On the other hand we cant let foreign browns come over here and take the job of killing America away from US browns.

Hes an American born brown.

[barrettdc1]

FIrst thing Obama says is that the incident reminds us how easy it is to obtain a gun that can kill people. Yet, says nothing about the fact that this was another incident carried out by a follower of the "religion of peace". Then ISIS comes right out and claims responsibility. NO BUT ITS ABOUT AMERICANS BUYIN SCARY GUNZ! HERRRRRRRRP!

WE NEED TRUMP TO LEAD US TO VICTORY! TRUMP! TRUMP!

[Phaezed-Reality]

FUCK THE TERRORISTS.

[Nihilist_santa]

Hes an American born brown.

Oh well the initial reports had said he was Afghani. This is why its best not to subdivide them.

[Uuruk]

Has anyone seen Maerilith today?

[Aesop]

I trust p1999's gut instincts on all of this.

[Hasbinbad]

What I don't understand - and maybe some of you non-cuck alphas can mansplain it to me - is why an entire group of people are judged by the actions of one very fucked up individual.

How many atrocities have been committed by white people?

I don't see you all railing against white people.

Obviously this dude was a bad person. Why do you non-cuck alphas believe that therefore anyone who looks like him is also a bad person?

[TacoSmasher]

What I don't understand - and maybe some of you non-cuck alphas can mansplain it to me - is why an entire group of people are judged by the actions of one very fucked up individual.

How many atrocities have been committed by white people?

I don't see you all railing against white people.

Obviously this dude was a bad person. Why do you non-cuck alphas believe that therefore anyone who looks like him is also a bad person?


https://i.imgur.com/a6pZt5W.png

[iruinedyourday]

I'll bet this kid was a cool and level headed individual who simply got mixed up with the wrong religion.

[iruinedyourday]

Lets just remember that 3.2% of the Canadian population is Muslim while only 1% of American is... remind me, which one has more mass shootings than the other?

[iruinedyourday]

I just got 45 kills in overwatch again, was shooting for 50 in these peoples honor.

[Uuruk]

You average 13

[AzzarTheGod]

Quick lets blame guns.

[Swish]

Making it easy for Trump to win.

[Nihilist_santa]

What I don't understand - and maybe some of you non-cuck alphas can mansplain it to me - is why an entire group of people are judged by the actions of one very fucked up individual.

How many atrocities have been committed by white people?

I don't see you all railing against white people.

Obviously this dude was a bad person. Why do you non-cuck alphas believe that therefore anyone who looks like him is also a bad person?

Because in each individual case they all match the same profile? His motives have seemed terror related but I guess being part of a terrorist organization with thousands or millions of individual members is just us generalizing.

White people stopped the atrocities they committed and put an end to the bulk of the savages in the rest of the worlds atrocities as well. What atrocities did any ethnics stop that wasn't forced by whites?

Also how come the answer to ending gun violence is to ban or restrict guns but the answer to ending Muslim terrorism isn't to ban or restrict Muslims?

[Nihilist_santa]

Making it easy for Trump to win.

It is getting scary Swish. My fear is some Muslim or leftist will take him out when he wins. Going to have to keep a close eye on his VP pick.

[Swish]

It is getting scary Swish. My fear is some Muslim or leftist will take him out when he wins. Going to have to keep a close eye on his VP pick.

The same was said about the far right and Obama being shot.

[AzzarTheGod]

Also just a coincidence that it happened during Ramadan. Japanese embassy warns their people at the onset of Ramadan. Especially with regard to fridays.

First you pay the billions (You, the taxpayer) for national security.

Then you don't get it :)

Time for a change in the way this country administrates the threat of radical terror? I think so.

If the fucking Japanese think its important enough to warn all US visas that its the month of Ramadan, then I think they probably have a good fucking reason.

Are politically correct fatcats just getting in the way, standing on their own dicks at this point? "no no, we don't need to do such and such take this strawman".

How about let some people know about that there Ramadan they got going on huh??? You dumb ass little shits.

[Nihilist_santa]

The same was said about the far right and Obama being shot.

True however there seems to be a sort of acceptance in the media and the left that attacking trump is like stopping Hitler and the violence at his rallies has been escalating. Wasnt Glenn Beck recently who was calling for people to kill Trump and he got in hot water and he is supposed to be on the right. Might have been someone else but nothing like that was happening with Obama.

Anyways Obama didnt undo any type of Illuminst(TPTB) goals because he was supported by them. TPTB have been in full on unison trying to stop Trump because his stated goals would set them back on globalization. Trump hasnt said anything racist and every time they say he does its been out of context, misrepresented ,or misquoted. Its the left painting this issue of race and division and Trump is Hitler who has to be stopped at all cost.

[barrettdc1]

What I don't understand - and maybe some of you non-cuck alphas can mansplain it to me - is why an entire group of people are judged by the actions of one very fucked up individual.

How many atrocities have been committed by white people?

I don't see you all railing against white people.

Obviously this dude was a bad person. Why do you non-cuck alphas believe that therefore anyone who looks like him is also a bad person?

This guy could have looked like Mr. fucking Rogers, he killed people IN THE NAME OF ISLAM. No one said anything about the fact that his parents are from Afghanistan. Stop turning this into something about race, when it's not. It's about Islam.

[Ahldagor]

What I don't understand - and maybe some of you non-cuck alphas can mansplain it to me - is why an entire group of people are judged by the actions of one very fucked up individual.

How many atrocities have been committed by white people?

I don't see you all railing against white people.

Obviously this dude was a bad person. Why do you non-cuck alphas believe that therefore anyone who looks like him is also a bad person?

The generalization is there because most of Islam adheres to a tribal code of law of punish the others first and foremost in order to perpetuate their mono-culture. Granted it also breaks down within their religion between Shia and Sunni and to the arbitrary degrees of how Muslim someone may or may not be. If only Abraham honored Ishmael like he did Isaac then we'd not be in any of this.

[AzzarTheGod]

I don't see anyone talking about the victims of Hiroshima.

Did you ban the atomic bomb or did you continue to make them and stockpile them for more civilian murders?

[Tankdan]

http://i.imgur.com/PQVL1Gv.jpg


I couldnt imagine... RIP

[AzzarTheGod]

This guy could have looked like Mr. fucking Rogers, he killed people IN THE NAME OF ISLAM. No one said anything about the fact that his parents are from Afghanistan. Stop turning this into something about race, when it's not. It's about Islam.

Did you talk about the atomic bomb growing up or the white men who invented, created, and proliferated nuclear warfare?

Just curious.

[Swish]

Did you talk about the atomic bomb growing up or the white men who invented, created, and proliferated nuclear warfare?

Just curious.

whitey's fault again? yikes

[AzzarTheGod]

whitey's fault again? yikes

Have you openly admitted what these white men did was 100% wrong, committing the most flagrant act of terror of all time, and apologized to the nations you hurt, and given reparations to their families? Didn't think so.

I know you aren't an American national, but others here are putting the cart before the horse.

Legislating firearms doesn't heal hearts and minds, nor does investigating Mosques and making people paranoid. You can't fix radical Islam with legislation, its done through community outreach.

Stop excluding people, start including people-- and you will build a safer stronger better America.

[Swish]

I think the British have apologized for just about everything that happened ever against our former colonies.

What's funny is how you get from the "Muslim shoots gays" to "where's the reparations for the non-whites in the world?"

[Jorgam]

Have you openly admitted what these white men did was 100% wrong, committing the most flagrant act of terror of all time, and apologized to the nations you hurt, and given reparations to their families? Didn't think so.

I know you aren't an American national, but others here are putting the cart before the horse.

Legislating firearms doesn't heal hearts and minds, nor does investigating Mosques and making people paranoid. You can't fix radical Islam with legislation, its done through community outreach.

Stop excluding people, start including people-- and you will build a safer stronger better America.

Yeah, because Japan invading the US and losing 1 million people doing so, not to mention our losses, due to their inability to accept anything but ultimate defeat before surrendering, was totally a better route we should have let unfold.

People who subscribe to this strain of Islam don't want to be apart of your community. It is ignorant to see how they rule their own countries and then say that mentality and idealism isn't what they'd see rule ours too, if only they could.

Jackass.

[Priceline]

Really no need to argue with Azzar, he's quite literally the dumbest poster on p99. Go read half of red RnF for confirmation.

[Farzo]

Fun fact: Australia has gun laws, last mass shooting was 20+ years ago.

Ciao

[Swish]

Fun fact: Australia has gun laws, last mass shooting was 20+ years ago.

Ciao

You can't stop anger either way. In English cities (usually non-white) kids just stab each other because guns are hard to come by.

[Jorgam]

You can't stop anger either way. In English cities (usually non-white) kids just stab each other because guns are hard to come by.

Or run them over and hack them up with a clever before giving an interview and posing for pictures to declare their motives. It is just really, really sad. =(

[Wiley]

http://i.imgur.com/u8vwRUq.jpg

Should be more talk about the people instead of gun rights and Trump

[AzzarTheGod]

Really no need to argue with Azzar, he's quite literally the dumbest poster on p99. Go read half of red RnF for confirmation.

Sorry I made your best friends look bad in RNF and/or sorry your guild lost.

[Farzo]

You can't stop anger either way. In English cities (usually non-white) kids just stab each other because guns are hard to come by.

Absolutely correct.

But enabling angry miserable people to freely have access to AR-15 assualt rifles with 1,000 bullets for "home defence" is just plain dumb.

Australia had a 35 person massacre 20 odd years ago and they changed the laws pronto where no-one could legally own semi or automatic rifles and crushed them all.

It literally makes frontline news here whenever someone gets shot.

Gun advocates/businessmen are smart they know how to twist the minds of the simpleton's that embody the general America populace.

[Hastley]

I live like 4 miles from pulse. Scary stuff regardless of the ideological cause. Regards

[Jorgam]

Absolutely correct.

But enabling angry miserable people to freely have access to AR-15 assualt rifles with 1,000 bullets for "home defence" is just plain dumb.

Australia had a 35 person massacre 20 odd years ago and they changed the laws pronto where no-one could legally own semi or automatic rifles and crushed them all.

It literally makes frontline news here whenever someone gets shot.

Gun advocates/businessmen are smart they know how to twist the minds of the simpleton's that embody the general America populace.

Calling it an assault rifle doesn't make it one. AR-15 rifles are semi-automatic and fire no differently than a 6 shooter revolver in terms of 1 trigger pull = 1 shot fired. An assault rifle is a fully automatic machine gun, which is illegal already if you don't have permission from the gov to have it. Calling it an assault rifle does make your argument to ban them seem to have more legitimacy to fragile hearts and feeble minds however. You should get a clue.

[AzzarTheGod]

Yeah, because Japan invading the US and losing 1 million people doing so, not to mention our losses, due to their inability to accept anything but ultimate defeat before surrendering, was totally a better route we should have let unfold.

People who subscribe to this strain of Islam don't want to be apart of your community. It is ignorant to see how they rule their own countries and then say that mentality and idealism isn't what they'd see rule ours too, if only they could.

Jackass.

You can't fail if you don't try. Who is the jackass now?

Let me know when efforts are underway to create meaningful programs to help migrants in their transition to Western society. They need help with fundamental understanding of Western civ and capitalist economics, with emphasis on the importance of market freedom, and how this system can benefit them economically in the long term.

Until then you are the jackass.

Just another fatcat sitting on his own dick unwilling to promote integration, and instead offering ignorance or violence as solutions. What have you done besides name-call and cast a vote for Trump/Hillary? Advocate for loss of freedom? That's a cool idea. Too bad it sucks.

[Jorgam]

You can't fail if you don't try. Who is the jackass now?

Let me know when efforts are underway to create meaningful programs to help migrants in their transition to Western society. They need help with fundamental understanding of Western civ and capitalist economics, with emphasis on the importance of market freedom, and how this system can benefit them economically in the long term.

Until then you are the jackass.

Just another fatcat sitting on his own dick unwilling to promote integration, and instead offering ignorance or violence as solutions. What have you done besides name-call and cast a vote for Trump/Hillary? Advocate for loss of freedom? That's a cool idea. Too bad it sucks.

You are everything that is wrong with the ideals of Europe right now. Embrace those who hate you, pay for their way of life so that they can just see how great you are! Let them rape your country and obliterate your culture in the name of tolerance! Thank God you were not around to lose WW2 for us with your embrace of ideals that would see you put in a mass grave.

I never mentioned Trump or Hillary. Sorry Bernbot, you're socialist utopian fallacy will not come to fruition this cycle.

[Pokesan]

Fun fact: Australia has gun laws, last mass shooting was 20+ years ago.

Ciao

[Pokesan]

in all seriousness though, what if gay had gun?

it takes a good gay with a gun stop a bad guy

[Xaanka]

I don't see anyone talking about the victims of Hiroshima.

Did you ban the atomic bomb or did you continue to make them and stockpile them for more civilian murders?

nice troll but it's common knowledge that Germany was mere weeks away from developing their own functioning atomic bomb that would have been dropped on us. also a land invasion of japan would have cost both sides significantly more lives than dropping the bomb did.

[Xaanka]

http://i.imgur.com/xMXPAQ9.png

[Farzo]

Calling it an assault rifle doesn't make it one. AR-15 rifles are semi-automatic and fire no differently than a 6 shooter revolver in terms of 1 trigger pull = 1 shot fired. An assault rifle is a fully automatic machine gun, which is illegal already if you don't have permission from the gov to have it. Calling it an assault rifle does make your argument to ban them seem to have more legitimacy to fragile hearts and feeble minds however. You should get a clue.

I should get a clue, lol you should get a clue -- ETA till next mass shooting in America: 2 weeks.

That clue enough for you?




(didnt think so)

Gun advocates/businessmen are smart they know how to twist the minds of the simpleton's that embody the general America populace.

[AzzarTheGod]

in all seriousness though, what if gay had gun?

it takes a good gay with a gun stop a bad guy

The guy was a state licensed security guard with a lethal weapons license. That means he underwent firearms training and a rigorous background check. What more can you do to keep weapons out of this guy's hands?

We have to start winning the hearts and minds, and stop silently supporting violent institutions like the men responsible for Hiroshima. I don't care what Xaanka said I already took into account all the facts. Mass civilian murders are unacceptable and fathering terrorism has cost us as a country.

There is no reason to support terrorism in 2016 its time to condemn Hiroshima and admit we made some mistakes.

Time for the President to step up and lead on this issue rather than deflect and deny.

[Pokesan]

nice troll but it's common knowledge that Germany was mere weeks away from developing their own functioning atomic bomb that would have been dropped on us. also a land invasion of japan would have cost both sides significantly more lives than dropping the bomb did.

wehraboo

[Xaanka]

Calling it an assault rifle doesn't make it one. AR-15 rifles are semi-automatic and fire no differently than a 6 shooter revolver in terms of 1 trigger pull = 1 shot fired. An assault rifle is a fully automatic machine gun, which is illegal already if you don't have permission from the gov to have it. Calling it an assault rifle does make your argument to ban them seem to have more legitimacy to fragile hearts and feeble minds however. You should get a clue.

um an ar-15 is nothing like a revolver
* 30-100+ round magazine vs 6
* leaves shell casings vs doesn't
* quickly swappable magazines vs individual loading

what kind of olympic level mental gymnastics do you have to pull to not see the difference? also can't you buy a kit that legally converts ar-15's to full autos in most states?

aren't most of you gun retards against fucking chambered round indicators and magazine disconnect safeties? don't you also pee your pants like a little sissy girl if you forget to bring your lethal force killing machine to the grocery store?

[barrettdc1]

We need to re-create Hiroshima but instead on Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, etc. Fuck em.

[AzzarTheGod]

There you have it folks. ITT: shitbags show support for conditional terrorism.

You are as bad as this security guard if you can't admit Hiroshima was wrong. Go turn yourself in you are all endangering the rest of us normal civilized people.

[Pokesan]

i dunno man he only wants millions to die in nuclear hellfire

perhaps the truth is somewhere in the middle

[Jorgam]

I should get a clue, lol you should get a clue -- ETA till next mass shooting in America: 2 weeks.

That clue enough for you?




(didnt think so)

Yeah like I thought, you have no idea what you are talking about and just have misrepresentations and falsehoods to peddle to attempt to pass one thing off as another more scary and dangerous thing.

Just remember this bit. Citizens are allowed to own weapons, slaves are not. We all know what your government considers you.

[Jorgam]

um an ar-15 is nothing like a revolver
* 30-100+ round magazine vs 6
* leaves shell casings vs doesn't
* quickly swappable magazines vs individual loading

what kind of olympic level mental gymnastics do you have to pull to not see the difference? also can't you buy a kit that legally converts ar-15's to full autos in most states?

aren't most of you gun retards against fucking chambered round indicators and magazine disconnect safeties? don't you also pee your pants like a little sissy girl if you forget to bring your lethal force killing machine to the grocery store?

Read my post dipshit. I said they were similar in the sense of how they operate i.e. 1 trigger pull = 1 shot fired.

Dense asshole.

[Daywolf]

yeah so 0bama had the CIA activate their ISIS sleepercells just as the 3 day Bilderberg Group meeting let out and in time for summer riots soon to receive funding and start.
Quick lets blame guns.

[Xaanka]

There you have it folks. ITT: shitbags show support for conditional terrorism.

You are as bad as this security guard if you can't admit Hiroshima was wrong. Go turn yourself in you are all endangering the rest of us normal civilized people.

I don't think it was wrong, given the alternatives:

- Nuclear bomb being dropped on US, probably a city like New York with a higher population density than hiroshima/nagasaki

- Land invasion of Japan, leading to estimated roughly 1 million casualties between both sides (atomic bomb death toll was a bit over 200k?)

[Jorgam]

[QUOTE=Xaanka;2298259]
also can't you buy a kit that legally converts ar-15's to full autos in most states?

Wow, do you really believe this? Fully automatic weapons are ILLEGAL. You have to have special licenses and authorities to posses them.

If it isn't clear, No, you can't legally buy full auto converters. They are like silencers, you're going to fucking jail if you are caught with them and aren't licensed by the government to have them.

[Xaanka]

Read my post dipshit. I said they were similar in the sense of how they operate i.e. 1 trigger pull = 1 shot fired.

Dense asshole.

I read your post, you're being purposely obtuse trying to compare a fucking 6 shot revolver to an AR-15. Which gun will kill more people fired into a crowd? DUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHRRRRPPP keep proving to me that only inbred retards and insecure manlets carry guns.

[Xaanka]

[QUOTE=Xaanka;2298259]
also can't you buy a kit that legally converts ar-15's to full autos in most states?

Wow, do you really believe this? Fully automatic weapons are ILLEGAL. You have to have special licenses and authorities to posses them.

If it isn't clear, No, you can't legally buy full auto converters. They are like silencers, you're going to fucking jail if you are caught with them and aren't licensed by the government to have them.

they're pretty openly sold on my local facebook firearm buy/sell/trade groups, there's also instructions widely available to convert online and they were all over my local gun shows like 5 years ago.

[iruinedyourday]

The guy was a state licensed security guard with a lethal weapons license. That means he underwent firearms training and a rigorous background check. What more can you do to keep weapons out of this guy's hands?

We have to start winning the hearts and minds, and stop silently supporting violent institutions like the men responsible for Hiroshima. I don't care what Xaanka said I already took into account all the facts. Mass civilian murders are unacceptable and fathering terrorism has cost us as a country.

There is no reason to support terrorism in 2016 its time to condemn Hiroshima and admit we made some mistakes.

Time for the President to step up and lead on this issue rather than deflect and deny.

Yea we need to pivot to new long term solutions but that's the truth and like poetry nobody fucking likes it.

[Daywolf]

Hi from Australia.

Chances are there won't be a
...Chinese amphibious landing?

Would come later in the campaign I would expect..

[barrettdc1]

i dunno man he only wants millions to die in nuclear hellfire

perhaps the truth is somewhere in the middle

Better safe than sorry. Islam is a cancer on this planet and needs to be eliminated.

[Farzo]

Yeah like I thought, you have no idea what you are talking about and just have misrepresentations and falsehoods to peddle to attempt to pass one thing off as another more scary and dangerous thing.

Just remember this bit. Citizens are allowed to own weapons, slaves are not. We all know what your government considers you.

My government keeps me safe, what does yours do for you?

Can't wait to go to a club this weekend knowing full well some crazy guy didnt buy a ar-15 assualt rifle on the weekend and come kill me because he's a reject of society.

*sips vodka creaming soda*

CIAO

[Stasis01]

Paris had strict gun laws I thought.

I don't agree with the US gun laws but this issue has nothing to do with guns, some dude with a big truck could mow down a lot of people easily for islam.

[Swish]

Absolutely correct.

But enabling angry miserable people to freely have access to AR-15 assualt rifles with 1,000 bullets for "home defence" is just plain dumb.

Australia had a 35 person massacre 20 odd years ago and they changed the laws pronto where no-one could legally own semi or automatic rifles and crushed them all.

It literally makes frontline news here whenever someone gets shot.

Gun advocates/businessmen are smart they know how to twist the minds of the simpleton's that embody the general America populace.

Pistols are okay though? or?

[Swish]

Paris had strict gun laws I thought.

I don't agree with the US gun laws but this issue has nothing to do with guns, some dude with a big truck could mow down a lot of people easily for islam.

That's a good point really. Or get the right ingredients and bomb the target location rather than shoot it up.

[AzzarTheGod]

Paris had strict gun laws I thought.

I don't agree with the US gun laws but this issue has nothing to do with guns, some dude with a big truck could mow down a lot of people easily for islam.

People tend not to die from being struck by a vehicle. Even a bus doesn't kill people.

You'd kill maybe a few people with a truck before police responded if you really tried hard.

[Stasis01]

I dunno if you find some kind of crowded area and hit the crowd going 100+ I feel like there'd be some casualties.

Esp if you customized the truck to have some kid of blade at the front.

I dunno maybe I'm a sick fuck brainstorming this type of shit.

[Stasis01]

What really has me wondering is if theyll ever try fucking with water supplies and shit.

Anyhow here's to being a bunch of over apologetic white pussies.

[AzzarTheGod]

You would seriously fuck some people up bad, even at 35mph,

A large crowd on a strip of road is too much trouble for these guys and probably isn't "man" enough of violence for them anyway.

I picture an emotional woman who is desperate when I think of a vehicle attack, Joey Jihad probably feels about the same and won't think he will get the virgins either unless he does something manly that Allah would approve of.

[Daywolf]

Look at all the weapons the US gave to ISIS ! (https://youtu.be/pflsNhgrLLk)
Quick lets blame guns.

[Tradesonred]

Pistols are okay though? or?

What about fully automated rifles? Bazookas? Miniguns?

You guys arent a bunch of pussy liberals are you?

Guns dont kill people, people kill people etc

[Pokesan]

Look at all the weapons the US gave to ISIS ! (https://youtu.be/pflsNhgrLLk)

isis is obama's legacy

i hate it, but it is what it is

[iruinedyourday]

we'll never know if this woulda been like one of those shitty british knife wielding terrorists or a Boston bombing if america had stricter gun laws, but the we can reduce the chance that it will be an "ill go to walmart get 2 guns and fucking kill 50 people hah!" american run of the mill mass shooting if we shut the fuck up about shit we learned in 8th grade history.

[Sidelle]

You can't fix radical Islam with legislation, its done through community outreach.

Stop excluding people, start including people-- and you will build a safer stronger better America.
Community outreach? You need to get real. These people don't WANT to be part of western society. They don't want to assimilate, they want global Sharia Law. Yes, even the so-called "moderate muslims". It's pretty clear what their plans are if you just take a look at what's happened to Europe. Breed like rabbits and tear down western countries from the inside. They've already started attacking the best things about living in the western world, like having freedom of speech, and want to put anyone to death who criticizes Islam and their prophet. Their evil fucking death cult will never mesh with western society. There's no middle ground or compromising with them, they put it simply in their Quran: KILL ALL INFIDELS. Can anyone tell me what other major world religion in modern times calls for the actual slaughter of people who refuse to be forced into converting? Anyone?
There you have it folks. ITT: shitbags show support for conditional terrorism.

You are as bad as this security guard if you can't admit Hiroshima was wrong. Go turn yourself in you are all endangering the rest of us normal civilized people.
You're as bad as Obama who spent Memorial Day in Japan honoring their dead, instead of here honoring ours. Cannot wait until he fucks off out of the White House.

[AzzarTheGod]

we'll never know if this woulda been like one of those shitty british knife wielding terrorists or a Boston bombing if america had stricter gun laws, but the we can reduce the chance that it will be an "ill go to walmart get 2 guns and fucking kill 50 people hah!" american run of the mill mass shooting if we shut the fuck up about shit we learned in 8th grade history.

Except he had a lethal weapons license with the State of Florida to work in the armed security field, which is a State licensed job.

You have to go through a background check and register with the State.

This attack unfortunately breaks all the narrative about gun laws and background checks.

0bama is going to look stupid on this one if he opens his mouth. This security guard is opposite example of the legislation he is putting forth.

Let me make this clear: armed security license is a step above a firearms license. It is above an LTC and an FID. It is a separate license.

[Daywolf]

isis is obama's legacy

i hate it, but it is what it is
yes and no. The guy in the vid has it mostly right, he also implicates Bush. And it's not just 0bama and Bush, and not even all the CIA (I've posted about that before) the CIA is compartmentalized so that no single agent has intel on everything within the CIA and it's operations (admitted by the CIA). But yeah, ISIS is most definitely our own product in many respects, though it's also just an incarnation of the last incarnation we also created and/or helped.

[iruinedyourday]

Except he had a lethal weapons license with the State of Florida to work in the armed security field, which is a State licensed job.

You have to go through a background check and register with the State.

This attack unfortunately breaks all the narrative about gun laws and background checks.

0bama is going to look stupid on this one if he opens his mouth. This security guard is opposite example of the legislation he is putting forth.

Let me make this clear: armed security license is a step above a firearms license. It is above an LTC and an FID. It is a separate license.

Why is it instead not attacking the nsa? Is this not actually dead on their fault?

[Tasslehofp99]

FIrst thing Obama says is that the incident reminds us how easy it is to obtain a gun that can kill people. Yet, says nothing about the fact that this was another incident carried out by a follower of the "religion of peace". Then ISIS comes right out and claims responsibility. NO BUT ITS ABOUT AMERICANS BUYIN SCARY GUNZ! HERRRRRRRRP!


This is pretty scary.

[Daywolf]

Looks like there were at least two guys doing this in Orlando, with one still on the loose. There was an eye witness report of a guy who was there, and saw someone helping the crazed Islamist by holding the exit doors closed. The eyewitness was reporting this on live tv and the ABC news station cut him off as soon as he reported this. Here is Joe Biggs reporting on this (https://youtu.be/HlYEIXvCSdQ), also shows the ABC network cut-off.

Our propaganda agents seem to not consider this news, by an eye witness, cut him off. I return you now to your regularly scheduled brainwashing...
Quick lets blame guns.

[pathius41]

we'll never know if this woulda been like one of those shitty british knife wielding terrorists or a Boston bombing if america had stricter gun laws, but the we can reduce the chance that it will be an "ill go to walmart get 2 guns and fucking kill 50 people hah!" american run of the mill mass shooting if we shut the fuck up about shit we learned in 8th grade history.

Maybe I am missing something but I have yet to see a mass shooting reported that stated the attacker ran to Walmart the night before and bought weapons. The attacks are nearly always premeditated, planned, and typically used weapons bought second hand or stolen.

[Swish]

Community outreach? You need to get real. These people don't WANT to be part of western society. They don't want to assimilate, they want global Sharia Law. Yes, even the so-called "moderate muslims". It's pretty clear what their plans are if you just take a look at what's happened to Europe. Breed like rabbits and tear down western countries from the inside. They've already started attacking the best things about living in the western world, like having freedom of speech, and want to put anyone to death who criticizes Islam and their prophet. Their evil fucking death cult will never mesh with western society. There's no middle ground or compromising with them, they put it simply in their Quran: KILL ALL INFIDELS. Can anyone tell me what other major world religion in modern times calls for the actual slaughter of people who refuse to be forced into converting? Anyone?

Nailed it.

[Daywolf]

In 0bamas speech today, just before he blames guns, he mentions that an attack on any American, is an attack on all of us (https://youtu.be/45S-lFPhOTM?t=195).
So when 0bama threatens to use the US military and their drones to kill Americans (https://youtu.be/WsNTj77EyU0) on US soil (something they already have a green light on outside of the US) to kill Americans w/o due process, wouldn't this be considered and attack on all of us too? And what about assassination of US citizens outside of the US border by use of drones or whatnot, wouldn't that be an attack on us all too?

After all, drone strikes leave no room for surrender, they are simply an instrument of war, period. No opportunity for due process whatsoever, just a button to push and all are dead. Even the fact of using US military in this way within the US is illegal, let alone attacking "all of us" with weapons of war.

And I'm not talking stupid traitorous Americans on the front lines with terrorists getting killed there, but you know he is talking assassination of individuals, targeted, killed. Just as much as if they ran a certain vehicle off the road in the snow (e.g. lets just say in Oregon) and shot the driver down with his hands up. Drone strikes in America, on Americans, by our warmonger-in-chief.

[Tecmos Deception]

in all seriousness though, what if gay had gun?

it takes a good gay with a gun stop a bad guy

First thing I thought when I saw the news was "Jesus Christ."

Second thing was "too bad 10% of those 300 people in the club weren't carrying."

Of course there's some logistical issues there. Bars/nightclubs are usually pistol-free zones. Even if they weren't, you can't carry (legally) while drinking basically anything at all. And then even when a decent percentage of a State's population has a CPL, very few of those people carry regularly.


Good people doing nothing, imo.

[Farzo]

Guns kill over 40,000 Americans a year because they live in a country where regulating them isn't an option.


http://i.imgur.com/HuhUDBT.png

Remember boys and girls if you sell enough guns to the baddies and goodies you can retire rich.

[Nihilist_santa]

Easy to talk shit pal after you guys killed and corralled all of your browns. If you had 100 million browns in your back yard you might think otherwise.

[Pokesan]

First thing I thought when I saw the news was "Jesus Christ."

Second thing was "too bad 10% of those 300 people in the club weren't carrying."

Of course there's some logistical issues there. Bars/nightclubs are usually pistol-free zones. Even if they weren't, you can't carry (legally) while drinking basically anything at all. And then even when a decent percentage of a State's population has a CPL, very few of those people carry regularly.


Good people doing nothing, imo.

you have been massively whooshed and i hope some day you will understand how dumb you are.

it's not likely though.

[AzzarTheGod]

He had an armed security license nice try idiot

His father also said he wasn't a terrorist or even all that anti-gay. He disliked the gay agenda but wasn't going to do anything violent about it. He related that he was just angry about life and used radical Islam as an excuse.

His wife said he was very frustrated and unhappy with life. Aka a loser reject.

Suck on that terrorphile dipshits.

[Farzo]

http://i.imgur.com/HH1k8BF.jpg

here's a map of the USA with corresponding countries with the same gun violence death rates PER CITY

def no gun problems in the USA.

[AzzarTheGod]

http://i.imgur.com/HH1k8BF.jpg

here's a map of the USA with corresponding countries with the same gun violence death rates PER CITY

def no gun problems in the USA.

I see a lot of loser rejects and manlets on this map who need to have a gun just to walk to the toilet and take a piss in the privacy of their own home

Sad

[Pokesan]

http://i.imgur.com/HH1k8BF.jpg

here's a map of the USA with corresponding countries with the same gun violence death rates PER CITY

def no gun problems in the USA.

360 whirlwind dunk

[Tecmos Deception]

you have been massively whooshed and i hope some day you will understand how dumb you are.

it's not likely though.

You brought up a valid point, regardless of whether you intended it as sarcasm.

It would not have played out the way it did (if it had even happened in the first place) if it was common knowledge that a couple dozen people in that nightclub were lawfully carrying and sufficiently-trained to do so.

Guns aren't a problem. Ignorant, misinformed, irrational people (among others) are.

[Pokesan]

You brought up a valid point, regardless of whether you intended it as sarcasm.

It would not have played out the way it did (if it had even happened in the first place) if it was common knowledge that a couple dozen people in that nightclub were lawfully carrying and sufficiently-trained to do so.

Guns aren't a problem. Ignorant, misinformed, irrational people (among others) are.

oh god you're actually as dumb as the prophecy foretold

what's that like?

[Tecmos Deception]

http://i.imgur.com/HH1k8BF.jpg

here's a map of the USA with corresponding countries with the same gun violence death rates PER CITY

def no gun problems in the USA.

I'm from Michigan. I'm like 2 hours from Detroit. I'd bet anything there are a LOT more guns per capita in my city than there are in the D. But there's no gun violence.

Guns aren't the problem. People (and the shitty systems we create) are the problem.

[Pokesan]

I'm from Michigan. I'm like 2 hours from Detroit. I'd bet anything there are a LOT more guns per capita in my city than there are in the D. But there's no gun violence.

Guns aren't the problem. People (and the shitty systems we create) are the problem.

tell me more about how the population of detroit can't be trusted with guns but you suburban wasps can

[Daywolf]

He had an armed security license nice try idiot

His father also said he wasn't a terrorist or even all that anti-gay. He disliked the gay agenda but wasn't going to do anything violent about it. He related that he was just angry about life and used radical Islam as an excuse.

His wife said he was very frustrated and unhappy with life. Aka a loser reject.

Suck on that terrorphile dipshits.
Well you know that... if this guy had been a middle-aged white male, and especially may have frequented or even infrequented a christian or psudo-christian church, there would be a call to blood in the streets, buildings would be in flames right now and 0bama would be blaming some video on youtube.

You can even see it in iryd's posts here early on, the mention of "religions", because it's not that islam does this to people, makes them blood crazed (or unhappy as you say), oh no it's all religions to blame ... de-facto christianity or anything related as such + white middle-aged males to get into specifics. 0bama the great divider, and the lefts love affair with sharia law loving cavemen (the ones recruiting on-line from their literal caves).

am I doing it right? :D

[JurisDictum]

I don't see a relevant difference between a crazy Atheist/Christian that kills 50 people and a crazy Muslim. We have had plenty of the former. There doesn't appear to be any real contact between him in ISIS -- indicating it was self-radicalization. If it was even that. It might be more of a case of using that for an excuse for glory/purpose.

But don't let me spoil your party about how this proves that that's how Muslims all are. Just try to spend a little less money accomplishing nothing in Iraq this time around.

Edit: technically we never has 50 dead before. But I'm sure some non-Muslim nutbag will top him at some point. It's not like we'll be doing anything about guns soon LOL

[Daywolf]

I don't see a relevant difference
https://youtu.be/NNC0kIzM1Fo

[AzzarTheGod]

I don't see a relevant difference between a crazy Atheist/Christian that kills 50 people and a crazy Muslim. We have had plenty of the former. There doesn't appear to be any real contact between him in ISIS -- indicating it was self-radicalization. If it was even that. It might be more of a case of using that for an excuse for glory/purpose.

But don't let me spoil your party about how this proves that that's how Muslims all are. Just try to spend a little less money accomplishing nothing in Iraq this time around.

Edit: technically we never has 50 dead before. But I'm sure some non-Muslim nutbag will top him at some point. It's not like we'll be doing anything about guns soon LOL

His father already related that it was an excuse. He said gay people disturbed him when he saw the kissing in Miami and that's about it. His wife corroborated the fact that he has an explosive weirdo temper and is generally very unhappy.

Completely unrelated to ISIS.

He used Islam as an excuse and an opiate to numb his nerves about the "afterlife" (what happens after you die, as if something happens )

[Saludeen]

Any "Muslim" who does something like that is a hypocrite, not a Muslim. Gays are born that way and only lewdness is forbidden, and we're definitely not supposed to kill them. Also, Christians are far worse with hatred towards gays.

Not to mention the fact that its a false flag for an excuse for gun control. How some of you can't see that is beyond me. Especially since there's mass shootings every single day in America yet every attack like this that's blown out of proportion by the media is done by a "Muslim" lmao. How is it not obvious that its staged, and probably even fake. You honestly think that the media wouldn't make something up with all the technology Hollywood has? That doesn't mean it didn't actually happen but its important to use our brains.

And if you still don't believe it then you should be aware of the fact that San Bernadino was done by three white males in full tactical gear according to multiple witnesses. Look beyond the curtain for your own sanity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21b85-H9ozI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJJFitq3lQQ

[AzzarTheGod]

Any "Muslim" who does something like that is a hypocrite, not a Muslim. Gays are born that way and only lewdness is forbidden, and we're definitely not supposed to kill them. Also, Christians are far worse with hatred towards gays.

Not to mention the fact that its a false flag for an excuse for gun control. How some of you can't see that is beyond me. Especially since there's mass shootings every single day in America yet every attack like this that's blown out of proportion by the media is done by a "Muslim" lmao. How is it not obvious that its staged, and probably even fake. You honestly think that the media wouldn't make something up with all the technology Hollywood has? That doesn't mean it didn't actually happen but its important to use our brains.

And if you still don't believe it then you should be aware of the fact that San Bernadino was done by three white males in full tactical gear according to multiple witnesses. Look beyond the curtain for your own sanity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21b85-H9ozI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJJFitq3lQQ

Kissing open mouth in public is lewd.

Not sure where you are from. Straight couples know better than to kiss on the mouth in the public street. Its polite to shy away from any PDA aside from hand-holding and hugging while in a public street.

Just wanted to point out how far left some of you are. The gay agenda DOES have a problem with lewd behavior and lewdness in general. That's a fact.

I know this information may be shocking to you, and that the media has done a good job of convincing you otherwise, but thems the breaks. Not everyone is in a state of gay-crazed psychosis.

Thanks for posting.

[Daywolf]

Also, Christians are far worse with hatred towards gays. uh-huh... you know, because of the wave of christian terrorists here in the West killing us in droves just over the past decade. Riiiight...

btw, Islam ain't even a pure religion, it's a political ideology. Oh but how the left exonerates it, so peaceful, so loving.

Hillary Supporters Endorse SHARIA LAW in AMERICA! (https://youtu.be/oKosd0xJadE)

[Saludeen]

uh-huh... you know, because of the wave of christian terrorists here in the West killing us in droves just over the past decade. Riiiight...

btw, Islam ain't even a pure religion, it's a political ideology. Oh but how the left exonerates it, so peaceful, so loving.

Hillary Supporters Endorse SHARIA LAW in AMERICA! (https://youtu.be/oKosd0xJadE)

What's your point about Christians? There's plenty of Christian terrorists, even if the news doesn't report it, not to mention the sum of global crime regardless of religion. Do a simple Google search to find multiple sources and stories. Terror is a human problem, and terrorists wear many masks. The crusade in Iraq by Bush is one example. He literally called it that, even though it was really about drugs and oil that over 500,000 people have died from, including US soldiers.

Evil is a reality in this world. And Muslims are commanded to strive against evil to establish peace and justice without unnecessary aggression. So we're not pacifists because pacifism rarely works against warmongers who refuse to cease. Ghandi is a rare cliche exception since he had no other options. The only method for stopping violent and wicked people is force if persuasion has no effect.

I condemn sharia law. It contradicts the Qur'an and corrupts Islam. Its promoted by Sunni and Shia sectarians who try to merge disgusting man made hadiths with the book God sent. The same hadiths that insult Muhammad and lie about Aisha being a child as opposed to a woman who reached puberty at minimum. Especially since Muhammad was a righteous Prophet of God, and one of the greatest warriors who fought for all innocent people, including non-Muslims whom he treated with peace when returning to Mecca. Salahudeen did the same thing when he conquered Jerusalem after Crusaders murdered every man, woman, child and animal until blood was literally flowing through the streets like a river. Scum like those crusaders are the only type of "people" we would fight against, until they agree to cease, because its necessary for a peaceful society.

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
8:61 And if they seek peace, then you also seek it, and put your trust in God. He is the Hearer, the Knowledgeable.

2:190 And fight in the cause of God against those who fight you, but do not aggress, God does not love the aggressors.

2:179 And through equivalence you will be protecting life, O you who possess intelligence, that you may be righteous.

[Hasbinbad]

yeah so 0bama had the CIA activate their ISIS sleepercells just as the 3 day Bilderberg Group meeting let out and in time for summer riots soon to receive funding and start.

[AzzarTheGod]

What's your point about Christians? There's plenty of Christian terrorists, even if the news doesn't report it, not to mention the sum of global crime regardless of religion. Do a simple Google search to find multiple sources and stories. Terror is a human problem, and terrorists wear many masks. The crusade in Iraq by Bush is one example. He literally called it that, even though it was really about drugs and oil that over 500,000 people have died from, including US soldiers.

Evil is a reality in this world. And Muslims are commanded to strive against evil to establish peace and justice without unnecessary aggression. So we're not pacifists because pacifism rarely works against warmongers who refuse to cease. Ghandi is a rare cliche exception since he had no other options. The only method for stopping violent and wicked people is force if persuasion has no effect.

I condemn sharia law. It contradicts the Qur'an
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
8:61 And if they seek peace, then you also seek it, and put your trust in God. He is the Hearer, the Knowledgeable.

2:190 And fight in the cause of God against those who fight you, but do not aggress, God does not love the aggressors.

2:179 And through equivalence you will be protecting life, O you who possess intelligence, that you may be righteous.


The above quotes from the Qur'an aren't even accurately translated to English.

This is a better interpretation with precisely translated passages in the intro and outro. And I strongly recommend a listen if you even hope to understand radical Islam and the mindset of a Jihadist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4owWH0Rzfis

[Daywolf]

And if you still don't believe it then you should be aware of the fact that San Bernadino was done by three white males in full tactical gear according to multiple witnesses. Look beyond the curtain for your own sanity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21b85-H9ozI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJJFitq3lQQ
Your edit there, you pull/find those vids from this? https://youtu.be/pCKALU5NK40

San Bernardino Jihad! Call It What It Is (https://youtu.be/cjAskxfPadY)
It is what it is. The only real question is who pulled the trigger on the operation, and I'm not talking about the trigger on the rifles. The air smells that of the elitists of the left; joint operations to crush the liberty of the West. Globalist elitist leftists just as much as those ideological cavemen in their caves as they gather the CIA weapon drops.

[Daywolf]

What's your point about Christians? There's plenty of Christian terrorists, even if the news doesn't report it, not to mention the sum of global crime regardless of religion.No, not in the West. If this were so, the left would be ALLLLLL over it. lol mainstream media would not hide that lol
...though likely invent it.
You seem to be about as much of your avatar as I am of mine in this forum.
Yah I like to RP a little too... ;) Woof!

[Daywolf]

said stuff
You liked that, did ya? :)
Good stuff!

Eh, not a fan of Alex, but I like David Knight and his field reporter Paul Watson, and you gotta admit Lee Ann Mcadoo (anchor girl) is just HOT! ...or you're just too gay.. :o
http://i.imgur.com/n9uqqpE.jpg?1
America, F*ck yeah!

[Blitzers]

HWhat's your point about Christians? There's plenty of Christian terrorists, even if the news doesn't report it, not to mention the sum of global crime regardless of religion. Do a simple Google search to find multiple sources and stories. Terror is a human problem, and terrorists wear many masks. The crusade in Iraq by Bush is one example. He literally called it that, even though it was really about drugs and oil that over 500,000 people have died from, including US soldiers.

Evil is a reality in this world. And Muslims are commanded to strive against evil to establish peace and justice without unnecessary aggression. So we're not pacifists because pacifism rarely works against warmongers who refuse to cease. Ghandi is a rare cliche exception since he had no other options. The only method for stopping violent and wicked people is force if persuasion has no effect.

I condemn sharia law. It contradicts the Qur'an and corrupts Islam. Its promoted by Sunni and Shia sectarians who try to merge disgusting man made hadiths with the book God sent. The same hadiths that insult Muhammad and lie about Aisha being a child as opposed to a woman who reached puberty at minimum. Especially since Muhammad was a righteous Prophet of God, and one of the greatest warriors who fought for all innocent people, including non-Muslims whom he treated with peace when returning to Mecca. Salahudeen did the same thing when he conquered Jerusalem after Crusaders murdered every man, woman, child and animal until blood was literally flowing through the streets like a river. Scum like those crusaders are the only type of "people" we would fight against, until they agree to cease, because its necessary for a peaceful society.

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
8:61 And if they seek peace, then you also seek it, and put your trust in God. He is the Hearer, the Knowledgeable.

2:190 And fight in the cause of God against those who fight you, but do not aggress, God does not love the aggressors.

2:179 And through equivalence you will be protecting life, O you who possess intelligence, that you may be righteous.


Yarden Mariuma writes: "Taqiyya is an Islamic juridical term whose shifting meaning relates to when a Muslim is allowed, under Sharia law, to lie. A concept whose meaning has varied significantly among Islamic sects, scholars, countries, and political regimes, it nevertheless is one of the key terms used by recent anti-Muslim polemicists."

We're aware of your lies.

Trump just locked up 10 million more votes btw.

[Smedy]

no one brought their weapon to the nightclub? i haven't seen the news about this but one woulda though that the shooter would get shot himself since guns are so easy to come by in FL, how the fuck didn't he get shot? No one brought weapons to the club, not even the guards working there?

[AzzarTheGod]

no one brought their weapon to the nightclub? i haven't seen the news about this but one woulda though that the shooter would get shot himself since guns are so easy to come by in FL, how the fuck didn't he get shot? No one brought weapons to the club, not even the guards working there?

Clubs are gun-free zones. Including the workers.

No club security is allowed to carry. No patrons are allowed to carry. Its for safety reasons.

This goes for 99% of clubs in the United States. I've had to go back and remove weapons from myself just to get into a shitty dive bar in the Bronx back in my college days.

I can only think of one example where I was armed and the bouncers pointed it out to themselves as I walked past "I see it" but didn't do anything about it. I guess they felt I was too imposing or I seemed like I wouldn't react well to being denied entry and they didn't want to start a problem if there is no problem.

[Blitzers]

Fun fact: Australia has gun laws, last mass shooting was 20+ years ago.

Ciao

The Chinese government supports the disarming of Australian citizenry.

[Blitzers]

My government keeps me safe, what does yours do for you?

Can't wait to go to a club this weekend knowing full well some crazy guy didnt buy a ar-15 assualt rifle on the weekend and come kill me because he's a reject of society.

*sips vodka creaming soda*

CIAO

The Illusions of Safety Agency in Australia receives $500,000,000 funding grant from Chinese Government.

[Blitzers]

Orlando Shooting Suspect Identified As Omar Mateen, Registered Democrat Of Afghan Descent; Pledged Allegiance To ISIS

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-12/orlando-shooting-suspect-identified-omar-mateen-us-citizen

[Blitzers]

Wonder if the LBGT community is wishing they could go back to the simpler days when they only had to worry about Christian Bakers.

Know your Enemy, Rage Against the Machine.

[Saludeen]

I already said I condemn sharia law. That includes lying. God commands us to tell the truth. And the most accurate translations are A Monotheist Translation (http://www.free-minds.org/sites/default/files/quran.pdf), and A Reformist Translation (http://www.studyquran.org/resources/Quran_Reformist_Translation.pdf). How do I know? Based on reasoning, reflection, comparison, and the attitude, honesty, and sincerity of the translators. Most of the other translations are done by sectarians like Sunni's who distort Islam with culture, tradition, and man made hadiths.

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
33:70 O you who believe, be aware of God and speak only the truth.

And jihad means stuggle, so a jihadist a good thing. It refers to the struggle to avoid sin and do good work. Its the concept of striving for righteousness in any form, including war if necessary for the previous reasons.

So if someone says "san bernadino is a jihad" then that doesn't make sense and only expresses ignorance of the word. Especially since it wasn't even done by Muslims as the witnesses prove. And even if it was it makes no difference since people are defined by their actions not by what they call themselves. Nor is anyone responsible for the sins of others.

[Daywolf]

It's more like LLGBTP that first L for leftist and you can figure out the P. Bakers still on the hit list, after all it's "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" and a prime target for the leftist. But there are L's and G's and B's that are not leftists, I know I've had some friends that werent, some even conservs. T's are extra confusing, but I've heard of some not being leftist.

In any case, no one has the right to put them to dearh for being that way ...no comment on P's though, apart from being the only ones deserving of being locked up if caught doing that. It's not LGBT being the prob, just leftists and their jihadist friends.

[Blitzers]

I already said I condemn sharia law. That includes lying. God commands us to tell the truth. And the most accurate translations are A Monotheist Translation (http://www.free-minds.org/sites/default/files/quran.pdf), and A Reformist Translation (http://www.studyquran.org/resources/Quran_Reformist_Translation.pdf). How do I know? Based on reasoning, reflection, comparison, and the attitude, honesty, and sincerity of the translators. Most of the other translations are done by sectarians like Sunni's who distort Islam with culture, tradition, and man made hadiths.

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
33:70 O you who believe, be aware of God and speak only the truth.

And jihad means stuggle, so a jihadist a good thing. It refers to the struggle to avoid sin and do good work. Its the concept of striving for righteousness in any form, including war if necessary for the previous reasons.

So if someone says "san bernadino is a jihad" then that doesn't make sense and only expresses ignorance of the word. Especially since it wasn't even done by Muslims as the witnesses prove. And even if it was it makes no difference since people are defined by their actions not by what they call themselves. Nor is anyone responsible for the sins of others.

Explain "abrogation" and the verses of the Sword that clearly abrogate verses of Peace.

Or do you dismiss Muhammad's time in Medina and the call to follow his path? Cuz it be bloody.

[Trollhide]

I already said I condemn sharia law. That includes lying. God commands us to tell the truth. And the most accurate translations are A Monotheist Translation (http://www.free-minds.org/sites/default/files/quran.pdf), and A Reformist Translation (http://www.studyquran.org/resources/Quran_Reformist_Translation.pdf). How do I know? Based on reasoning, reflection, comparison, and the attitude, honesty, and sincerity of the translators. Most of the other translations are done by sectarians like Sunni's who distort Islam with culture, tradition, and man made hadiths.

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
33:70 O you who believe, be aware of God and speak only the truth.

And jihad means stuggle, so a jihadist a good thing. It refers to the struggle to avoid sin and do good work. Its the concept of striving for righteousness in any form, including war if necessary for the previous reasons.

So if someone says "san bernadino is a jihad" then that doesn't make sense and only expresses ignorance of the word. Especially since it wasn't even done by Muslims as the witnesses prove. And even if it was it makes no difference since people are defined by their actions not by what they call themselves. Nor is anyone responsible for the sins of others. doesn't exist

ftfy

[Blitzers]

Wamakaroo wamakara Allahu waAllahu khayru almakireena

And they cheated/deceived and God cheated/deceived, and God (is) the best (of) the cheaters/deceivers.

Sura 3:54

[Saludeen]

Explain "abrogation" and the verses of the Sword that clearly abrogate verses of Peace.

Or do you dismiss Muhammad's time in Medina and the call to follow his path? Cuz it be bloody.

A call to Islam is simply an invitation; good news for the believers, and a warning of the fire for the rejecters so they'll have no excuse. Nobody is forced because God guides whom He wills, among other reasons. And Muhammad treated the people in Medina with peace. They actually welcomed him, unlike the polytheists in Mecca who tried to kill him.

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
4:88 What is the matter with you that you are divided into two groups over the hypocrites, while God has regressed them for what they have earned? Do you want to guide those whom God misguides? Whoever God causes to be misguided, you will never find for him a path.

There is no abrogation in the Qur'an. The correct understanding based on the context and reasoning is that we always work for peace and only fight if necessary until the aggressive party agrees to cease with a treaty or otherwise. The following ayat clearly explain that, among others:

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
8:61 And if they seek peace, then you also seek it, and put your trust in God. He is the Hearer, the Knowledgeable.

2:190 And fight in the cause of God against those who fight you, but do not aggress, God does not love the aggressors.

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The core teaching of Islam is submission to God alone and doing good. Thus, judgement and intent is always important and everyone is responsible for their own sins.

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
(in the name of God, the All-Mighty, the Merciful)

4:125 And who is better in the system than the one who submits himself to God, and he is a good doer, and he follows the creed of Abraham in monotheism? And God took Abraham as a friend.

[Trollhide]

guys what facebook pic overlay and hashtag are we all using, i want to do my part in defeating terrorism

[Daywolf]

The dude that invented islam (from moon god worship - hybrid), what he wrote, his new "religion" failed, it wasn't aggressive enough. So he tacked on the second section, in which it promoted this aggression (war ideology etc.), and in turn over-ruling the first section.

This aggression drove this "religion" forward. Liberal muslims follow the failed "religion" (and in confusion), while the rest follow it's true intent as it was completed. Most of the muslim on muslim warring is over views of eschatology (end-times predictions).

[Blitzers]

A call to Islam is simply an invitation; good news for the believers, and a warning of the fire for the rejecters so they'll have no excuse. Nobody is forced because God guides whom He wills, among other reasons. And Muhammad treated the people in Medina with peace. They actually welcomed him, unlike the polytheists in Mecca who tried to kill him.

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
4:88 What is the matter with you that you are divided into two groups over the hypocrites, while God has regressed them for what they have earned? Do you want to guide those whom God misguides? Whoever God causes to be misguided, you will never find for him a path.

There is no abrogation in the Qur'an. The correct understanding based on the context and reasoning is that we always work for peace and only fight if necessary until the aggressive party agrees to cease with a treaty or otherwise. The following ayat clearly explain that, among others:

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
8:61 And if they seek peace, then you also seek it, and put your trust in God. He is the Hearer, the Knowledgeable.

2:190 And fight in the cause of God against those who fight you, but do not aggress, God does not love the aggressors.

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The core teaching of Islam is submission to God alone and doing good. Thus, judgement and intent is always important and everyone is responsible for their own sins.

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
(in the name of God, the All-Mighty, the Merciful)

4:125 And who is better in the system than the one who submits himself to God, and he is a good doer, and he follows the creed of Abraham in monotheism? And God took Abraham as a friend.

So you dismiss and condemn the verses of the "Sword," or we just choosing to ignore them?

[Trollhide]

So you dismiss and condemn the verses of the "Sword," or we just choosing to ignore them?
You're trying to argue rationality with a religious person. Trust me when I say that it's just a black hole of effort.

[Daywolf]

On a side-note, I was wondering why IRYD didn't tug the line when I nibbled his stink bait in this thread. Seems the forum fish n game mods caught him fishing w/o a proper license. RIP IRYD
I've got something I can laugh about, Good day sunshine! :D
Note to Kaga: see, told you iryd wasn't an alt mod account.

[maskedmelon]

Any "Muslim" who does something like that is a hypocrite, not a Muslim. Gays are born that way and only lewdness is forbidden, and we're definitely not supposed to kill them. Also, Christians are far worse with hatred towards gays.

Not to mention the fact that its a false flag for an excuse for gun control. How some of you can't see that is beyond me. Especially since there's mass shootings every single day in America yet every attack like this that's blown out of proportion by the media is done by a "Muslim" lmao. How is it not obvious that its staged, and probably even fake. You honestly think that the media wouldn't make something up with all the technology Hollywood has? That doesn't mean it didn't actually happen but its important to use our brains.

And if you still don't believe it then you should be aware of the fact that San Bernadino was done by three white males in full tactical gear according to multiple witnesses. Look beyond the curtain for your own sanity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21b85-H9ozI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJJFitq3lQQ

lol, A+

[Saludeen]

So you dismiss and condemn the verses of the "Sword," or we just choosing to ignore them?

No. Read the previous reply and think. Its a very easy concept to understand unless you're actually stupid or deliberately ignoring the explanations. We only attack people who attack us and refuse to cease, or if they attack innocent people, because that's the only method for establishing peace against an aggressive army. Which I already said. All ayat about war are under that context. Especially since God commands us to be righteous, and its wrong to kill peaceful people regardless of religion.

[Daywolf]

lol, A+
Oh the gay gene thing? People need to keep up with the news. Just stick 'no gay gene' into google, you'll get the 2014-2015 reports. They still hunting for it.

As for the witnesses, should have been more than two, and that one guy was just guessing. Even infowars had nothing conclusive. Not saying it wasn't, but at the same time it still could have been a false flag as he suggests, but as a joint opperation if that were the case. That seems to be the way things go when it is the case.

Oh and the other witness, she didn't see skin color.

[maskedmelon]

There you have it folks. ITT: shitbags show support for conditional terrorism.

You are as bad as this security guard if you can't admit Hiroshima was wrong. Go turn yourself in you are all endangering the rest of us normal civilized people.

Hiroshima was part of war. War is awful. Do you realize hat prior to those bombs, Japanese women and children were practicing with bamboo sticks (fucking bamboo sticks!) to defend the homeland from a ground invasion by US? A ground invasion could have quite literally been the end of the Japanese people. And not because of some sinister ambitions of Americans, but because of the extraordinary pride of Japan.

The atomic weapons were not terrorism. They were a reasoned attempt to end the war with as few casualties as possible. The Emperor is to blame for that tragedy. He was God. He could have out an end to it at anytime.

[Daywolf]

This is correct. And even then, many threw themselves off cliffs into the ocean.

[Blitzers]

No. Read the previous reply and think. Its a very easy concept to understand unless you're actually stupid or deliberately ignoring the explanations. We only attack people who attack us and refuse to cease, or if they attack innocent people, because that's the only method for establishing peace against an aggressive army. Which I already said. All ayat about war are under that context. Especially since God commands us to be righteous, and its wrong to kill peaceful people regardless of religion.

Those gays waging war on joo?

[DMN]

This scumbag's father said there was no chance his religion was involved. He supposedly just saw 2 guys kissing one day and that made him angry enough to go do this.

Sounds like a lifetime democrat voter.

[maskedmelon]

Oh the gay gene thing? People need to keep up with the news. Just stick 'no gay gene' into google, you'll get the 2014-2015 reports. They still hunting for it.

As for the witnesses, should have been more than two, and that one guy was just guessing. Even infowars had nothing conclusive. Not saying it wasn't, but at the same time it still could have been a false flag as he suggests, but as a joint opperation if that were the case. That seems to be the way things go when it is the case.

Oh and the other witness, she didn't see skin color.

No ^^ I was laughing more at the magnanimous portrayal of Islam and suggestion that it is treated unfairly by the media.

Whether there is a gay gene or not though, desire is inborn. You can choose whether or not to act on desire, but you do not choose what you desire. Being gay is not a matter of choice.

[Blitzers]

The dude that invented islam (from moon god worship - hybrid), what he wrote, his new "religion" failed, it wasn't aggressive enough. So he tacked on the second section, in which it promoted this aggression (war ideology etc.), and in turn over-ruling the first section.

This aggression drove this "religion" forward. Liberal muslims follow the failed "religion" (and in confusion), while the rest follow it's true intent as it was completed. Most of the muslim on muslim warring is over views of eschatology (end-times predictions).

Muhammad never wrote shit, if you research how the Quran was assembled, it's a complete joke. Some Caliph came up with some bullshit rules and anyone who wanted to add to the 1st compilation could as long as he had one witness to the "revelation."

Pretty sure Muhammad even opposed a written Quran, he advocated memorization and recitation, I'd have to go back and look it up again but it's a real hoot.

[Alarti0001]

You can't stop anger either way. In English cities (usually non-white) kids just stab each other because guns are hard to come by.

It's alot harder to kill 50 people in minutes with a knife.

[Daywolf]

No ^^ I was laughing more at the magnanimous portrayal of Islam and suggestion that it is treated unfairly by the media.

Whether there is a gay gene or not though, desire is inborn. You can choose whether or not to act on desire, but you do not choose what you desire. Being gay is not a matter of choice.
Ah. As for desire, it's a hardwired biological thing for the most part, it would need a gene. It's not very Freudian of me, I know, but there is a good reason why they look for such a gene. I tend to agree more with Carl Jung, anyway, being environment has a large impact.

[Rogean]

Clubs are gun-free zones. Including the workers.

No club security is allowed to carry. No patrons are allowed to carry. Its for safety reasons.

This goes for 99% of clubs in the United States.

Not really. I've been to plenty of clubs that don't pat you down. While almost every state has some sort of law that prohibits carrying while drinking, not all of them prohibit carrying into establishments that serve alcohol.

So if this were Massachusetts, for example, I could legally carry into any club that isn't patting people down. Would I? No, because chances are that I would be drinking, which IS against the law to carry while doing. This is usually the case for most club goers, and why there was nobody there to shoot back.

Also, all of this aside, there WAS a police officer on duty at the club. He couldn't stop the shooter.

[Rogean]

What I'm really curious is how many of those people inside the club had what would normally be a survivable gun shot wound, but simply bled out because of a 3 fucking hour standoff.

The law makers want to keep saying over and over, give up your guns, let the police handle it. No, they'll just sit outside for 3 hours while everyone bleeds out. Or in San Bernardino where they respond in a record 4 minutes yet 36 people are still shot and the shooters get away.

[Daywolf]

Muhammad never wrote shit, if you research how the Quran was assembled, it's a complete joke. Some Caliph came up with some bullshit rules and anyone who wanted to add to the 1st compilation could as long as he had one witness to the "revelation."

Pretty sure Muhammad even opposed a written Quran, he advocated memorization and recitation, I'd have to go back and look it up again but it's a real hoot.well it says he wrote it. He could have dictated if he were illiterate. But moon god worship, check, and a revision after the first failure, double check.

[Alarti0001]

What I'm really curious is how many of those people inside the club had what would normally be a survivable gun shot wound, but simply bled out because of a 3 fucking hour standoff.

The law makers want to keep saying over and over, give up your guns, let the police handle it. No, they'll just sit outside for 3 hours while everyone bleeds out. Or in San Bernardino where they respond in a record 4 minutes yet 36 people are still shot and the shooters get away.

Whats the alternative?

[Tenlaar]

Straight couples know better than to kiss on the mouth in the public street.

Well this clears things up a bit. I might be an angry person if women were embarrassed to kiss me in public too.

[Daywolf]

It's alot harder to kill 50 people in minutes with a knife.
Yet the weak have a better chance of actually defending themselves with a firearm, not a knife. This is a deterent, that anyone in the room could possibly be able to stop them, not just the one mean looking guy in the room they would just get the backstab on first.

So the deterent is that anyone could defend themselves, so go find a room with less risk. It's only liberal/progressive thinking that a good show of surrender is somehow the best deterent. And even then, it's everyone else dissarms but the liberal. Like Hillary yipes about guns, but heavily surrounds herself with them.

[sOurDieSel]

Not really. I've been to plenty of clubs that don't pat you down. While almost every state has some sort of law that prohibits carrying while drinking, not all of them prohibit carrying into establishments that serve alcohol.

So if this were Massachusetts, for example, I could legally carry into any club that isn't patting people down. Would I? No, because chances are that I would be drinking, which IS against the law to carry while doing. This is usually the case for most club goers, and why there was nobody there to shoot back.

Also, all of this aside, there WAS a police officer on duty at the club. He couldn't stop the shooter.

Almost all clubs have signs posted that say "No Weapons" which includes knifes and guns.

In California it is legal to concealed carry in a bar but not while actually drunk. However, if you live in any big city the chances of you getting the CCW is slim to none especially with the Peruta v. San Diego decision.

In Oregon you can not only carry into a bar but you can carry while actually DRUNK.

Under federal law all police or retired police with a current ID card and qualification can carry almost anywhere including bars/clubs but they cannot drink a sip of alcohol under the law but this stipulation is never enforced.

The laws pertaining to concealed carry in Florida prohibit carrying in "Any portion of an establishment licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, which portion of the establishment is primarily devoted to such purpose;"

The chances of these 'club goers' carrying a firearm are slim to none since the majority probably voted for Obama and will vote for Shillary this election.

America doesn't have a gun problem, they have a liberal immigration problem. Look at Europe, some of the strictest gun laws in the world and yet the Muslim terrorists still managed to get weapons and kill people.

[sOurDieSel]

It's alot harder to kill 50 people in minutes with a knife.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/01/world/asia/china-railway-attack/

[Jarnauga]

So can i purchase a nuke as a citizen of the US ?

Tis a weapon don't tread on me

[Alarti0001]

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/01/world/asia/china-railway-attack/

At least 4 attackers..... derp

[Alarti0001]

So can i purchase a nuke as a citizen of the US ?

Tis a weapon don't tread on me

Once Donald is done nuking all foreigners he will then pick a state as his home state and nuke the other states as they are too different. Probably Texas.

[Nihilist_santa]

You would think liberals would be all for a wall. I mean you dont think guns wont come in from mexico the moment they are outlawed here do you? You guys think its racist to secure our broders so curious how you think that will be handled since they cant even stop the flow of drugs.

[Jarnauga]

Well illegals can still climb up the wall or dig a tunnel so we might as well all have our own cheap slave labor

#GunArgumentInANutshell

[Rogean]

Almost all clubs have signs posted that say "No Weapons" which includes knifes and guns.

Which aren't legally binding in all states.

In California it is legal to concealed carry in a bar but not while actually drunk.

Said that in my post.

However, if you live in any big city the chances of you getting the CCW is slim to none especially with the Peruta v. San Diego decision.

Every state has a different license process, or in some cases no license at all. Massachusetts it is the chief of the town you live in, but the license is state wide.

Under federal law all police or retired police with a current ID card and qualification can carry almost anywhere including bars/clubs but they cannot drink a sip of alcohol under the law but this stipulation is never enforced.

It's called LEOSA, and no they are technically still bound by that state's laws which dictate where they can carry, and any limitations such as alcohol ingestion. As you mentioned, most of the time they are given professional courtesy.

The laws pertaining to concealed carry in Florida prohibit carrying in "Any portion of an establishment licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, which portion of the establishment is primarily devoted to such purpose;"

Which is specific to Florida. Many states have only a small amount of 'off limit' carry places. As I mentioned above as an example, any such signs stating 'firearms prohibited' are not legally binding in Massachusetts.

[Stasis01]

What I'm really curious is how many of those people inside the club had what would normally be a survivable gun shot wound, but simply bled out because of a 3 fucking hour standoff.[/i].

This is general practice for jail guards too.

The police will take care of the situation, but if you're caught in the middle it's a scary thought to know you're basically on your own and containment is the goal.

[Stasis01]

Also I would say there was probably cops that wanted to go in.

[Pokesan]

Look at Europe, some of the strictest gun laws in the world and yet the Muslim terrorists still managed to get weapons and kill people.

How many people die yearly from gun violence in US vs EU? Preventing all of it is obviously impossible, what ratio is acceptable?

[Pokesan]

You would think liberals would be all for a wall. I mean you dont think guns wont come in from mexico the moment they are outlawed here do you? You guys think its racist to secure our broders so curious how you think that will be handled since they cant even stop the flow of drugs.

NS continues arguing with a phantom born of his own imagination.

[Nihilist_santa]

How many people die yearly from gun violence in US vs EU? Preventing all of it is obviously impossible, what ratio is acceptable?

More people die in auto accidents in the US vs EU as well. Demographics are more important than your very weak comparison. This is like gun deaths in rich neighborhoods vs poor or black vs white.

[Pokesan]

that's not an answer. you won't answer because you know you're like a million times more likely to get shot to death in the US

[Nihilist_santa]

that's not an answer. you won't answer because you know you're like a million times more likely to get shot to death in the US

Your question is BS and you know it. On which day? The day Anders Brevik committed his attack or just like next Tuesday?

[sOurDieSel]

How many people die yearly from gun violence in US vs EU? Preventing all of it is obviously impossible, what ratio is acceptable?

EU and US would have a lot less 'gun violence' violence in general if they stopped importing millions of 3rd worlders. But.... lets blame the inanimate object.

[Pokesan]

Your question is BS and you know it. On which day? The day Anders Brevik committed his attack or just like next Tuesday?

Strict gun laws being highly effective in reducing gun violence and deaths is not BS. Look up the stats. Gun control works.

[maskedmelon]

Why do we have to take guns from good people? Why can't we just purge all the bad ones?

[Blitzers]

EU and US would have a lot less 'gun violence' violence in general if they stopped importing millions of 3rd worlders. But.... lets blame the inanimate object.

Liberals are far too incompetent and unpredictable to own or operate firearms safely, they know this, and because they know this they think everyone is like them. Iamrite.

[Pokesan]

Why do we have to take guns from good people? Why can't we just purge all the bad ones?

Are you a five year old?

[maskedmelon]

Are you a five year old?

No.

[sOurDieSel]

It's called LEOSA, and no they are technically still bound by that state's laws which dictate where they can carry, and any limitations such as alcohol ingestion. As you mentioned, most of the time they are given professional courtesy.


Which is specific to Florida. Many states have only a small amount of 'off limit' carry places. As I mentioned above as an example, any such signs stating 'firearms prohibited' are not legally binding in Massachusetts.

I wasn't arguing with you just comparing California v Oregon as opposed to the drinking alcohol vs not drinking alcohol in a bar while carrying which is the closest legal definition a nightclub would fall under most likely since they aren't a restaurant. Most people just don't carry in bars in general even with a permit because it is frowned upon.

As far as the LEOSA, it overrides State law. This is why many people become reservists because it expands their carrying privileges to places off limits under State law. An example would be Michigan and Police Chief Robert Reznick. Michigan bans carrying in churches iirc so a bunch of people were becoming reservist to circumvent that. Another example would be South Dakota and the Sturgis rally involving the off duty cops in 'Iron Pigs' going at it with the Hells Angels which turned into a big fiasco. Everyone wants that 'professional courtesy.' lol

[Alarti0001]

Liberals are far too incompetent and unpredictable to own or operate firearms safely, they know this, and because they know this they think everyone is like them. Iamrite.

I was in the military... I'm a "liberal" I managed to get expert medals in rifle and pistol.. even got to shoot .50cal machine guns and an automatic grenade launcher.

Uisdumb

[sOurDieSel]

Congrats on your brownie buttons.

[Redi]

Which aren't legally binding in all states.



Said that in my post.



Every state has a different license process, or in some cases no license at all. Massachusetts it is the chief of the town you live in, but the license is state wide.



It's called LEOSA, and no they are technically still bound by that state's laws which dictate where they can carry, and any limitations such as alcohol ingestion. As you mentioned, most of the time they are given professional courtesy.



Which is specific to Florida. Many states have only a small amount of 'off limit' carry places. As I mentioned above as an example, any such signs stating 'firearms prohibited' are not legally binding in Massachusetts.

thanks 4 input

[Blitzers]

I was in the military... I'm a "liberal" I managed to get expert medals in rifle and pistol.. even got to shoot .50cal machine guns and an automatic grenade launcher.

Uisdumb

Learn sarcasm.

Uisdumb

[Blitzers]

Only option is:

If you're a place of public accommodation and you display a "no firearms" sign, then you are assuming responsibility for the safety of your customers, and must display measures to thwart an attack.

Pass a law, make it happen, send out the goon squad to enforce it.

No sign, then the responsibility lies with the customer.

[maskedmelon]

I still prefer my solution.

[Blitzers]

I still prefer my solution.

Which is?

[Saludeen]

The dude that invented islam (from moon god worship - hybrid), what he wrote, his new "religion" failed, it wasn't aggressive enough. So he tacked on the second section, in which it promoted this aggression (war ideology etc.), and in turn over-ruling the first section.

This aggression drove this "religion" forward. Liberal muslims follow the failed "religion" (and in confusion), while the rest follow it's true intent as it was completed. Most of the muslim on muslim warring is over views of eschatology (end-times predictions).

You're very ignorant about Islam and even the Arabic language, because Allah is how you say God in Arabic, and the Qur'an tells us not to worship the sun or moon (41:37). Your claim about war is wrong as well, especially after I explained it twice that you simply ignored. That demonstrates dishonesty and pettiness. It literally says not to be the aggressors (2:190)

Also, monotheism has been around since the beginning of time, and that's the most important part of Islam; worshiping God alone, the All-Mighty, the Forgiving. Its the same religion that all Prophets followed, including Abraham and Jesus (Ibrahim, Isa). And its ironic that Christians still worship Jesus instead of God while they both forbid idolatry.

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
41:37 And from among His signs are the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. Do not prostrate to the sun, nor the moon; you shall prostrate to God who has created them, if it is truly Him you serve.

25:2 The One to whom belongs the sovereignty of the heavens and the earth, and He did not take a son, and He does not have any partner in kingship. And He created everything and measured it precisely.

2:190 And fight in the cause of God against those who fight you, but do not aggress, God does not love the aggressors.

3:7 He is the One who sent down to you the book, from which there are definite signs; they are the essence of the book; and others, which are multiple-meaning. As for those who have disease in their hearts, eager to cause confusion and eager to derive their interpretation, they will follow what is multiple-meaning from it. But none knows their meaning except God and those who are well founded in knowledge; they say, "We acknowledge it, all is from our Lord." None will remember except the people of intellect.

[Blitzers]

You're very ignorant about Islam and even the Arabic language, because Allah is how you say God in Arabic, and the Qur'an tells us not to worship the sun or moon (41:37). Your claim about war is wrong as well, especially after I explained it twice that you simply ignored. That demonstrates dishonesty and pettiness. It literally says not to be the aggressors (2:190)

Also, monotheism has been around since the beginning of time, and that's the most important part of Islam; worshiping God alone, the All-Mighty, the Forgiving. Its the same religion that all Prophets followed, including Abraham and Jesus (Ibrahim, Isa). And its ironic that Christians still worship Jesus instead of God while they both forbid idolatry.

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
41:37 And from among His signs are the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. Do not prostrate to the sun, nor the moon; you shall prostrate to God who has created them, if it is truly Him you serve.

25:2 The One to whom belongs the sovereignty of the heavens and the earth, and He did not take a son, and He does not have any partner in kingship. And He created everything and measured it precisely.

2:190 And fight in the cause of God against those who fight you, but do not aggress, God does not love the aggressors.

3:7 He is the One who sent down to you the book, from which there are definite signs; they are the essence of the book; and others, which are multiple-meaning. As for those who have disease in their hearts, eager to cause confusion and eager to derive their interpretation, they will follow what is multiple-meaning from it. But none knows their meaning except God and those who are well founded in knowledge; they say, "We acknowledge it, all is from our Lord." None will remember except the people of intellect.

Your god is NOT my God. 3:54 proves this. Quit your Taqiyya

[Trollhide]

itt: mentally ill elfpals argue about whose invisible sky daddy can kick the other's invisible sky daddy's ass

[Trollhide]

I was in the military... I'm a "liberal" I managed to get expert medals in rifle and pistol.. even got to shoot .50cal machine guns and an automatic grenade launcher.

Uisdumb
for reference, "expert" is not the highest level of marksmanship awarded by the mil or even uncommon at all

[Saludeen]

Your god is NOT my God. 3:54 proves this. Quit your Taqiyya

I submit to God alone, and we have the same Creator.
So if you don't worship God then you're right.

Do you pray to that white guy you call Jesus instead? The one who was ignorant of the Hour according to the Bible (Matt 24:36)? God is All-Knowing, Omnipotent. He's not ignorant of His own Day of Judgement lol. And the Messiah, son of Mary, doesn't even look like the idol you worship.

So I agree that your god is not God. Or are you not a Christian?

3:54 says that God is the best schemer. Do you even know what that word means? Its not inherently negative. It's synonymous with "planner". Is it too hard for you to use Google or understand basic English words?

https://www.google.com/search?q=scheme&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
33:70 O you who believe, be aware of God and speak only the truth.

5:116 And God will say: "O Jesus, son of Mary, did you tell the people to take you and your mother as gods other than God?" He said: "Glory to you, I cannot say what I have no right of. If I had said it then You know it, You know what is in my self while I do not know what is in Your self. You are the Knower of the unseen."

5:117 "I only said to them what You commanded me to say, that you shall serve God my Lord and your Lord; and I was witness over them as long as I was with them, but when You terminated my life, You were watcher over them. You are witness over all things."

5:118 "If You punish them, then they are Your servants, and if You forgive them, then You are the Noble, the Wise."

5:119 God will say: "This is a Day when the truth will benefit the truthful; they will have estates with rivers flowing beneath them, abiding therein eternally; God has become pleased with them and they are pleased with Him. Such is the greatest victory."

[Jarnauga]

I believe in santa too

[Blitzers]

I submit to God alone, and we have the same Creator.
So if you don't worship God then you're right.

Do you pray to that white guy you call Jesus instead? The one who was ignorant of the Hour according to the Bible (Matt 24:36)? God is All-Knowing, Omnipotent. He's not ignorant of His own Day of Judgement lol. And the Messiah, son of Mary, doesn't even look like the idol you worship.

So I agree that your god is not God. Or are you not a Christian?

3:54 says that God is the best schemer. Do you even know what that word means? Its not inherently negative. It's synonymous with "planner". Is it too hard for you to use Google or understand basic English words?

https://www.google.com/search?q=scheme&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
33:70 O you who believe, be aware of God and speak only the truth.

5:116 And God will say: "O Jesus, son of Mary, did you tell the people to take you and your mother as gods other than God?" He said: "Glory to you, I cannot say what I have no right of. If I had said it then You know it, You know what is in my self while I do not know what is in Your self. You are the Knower of the unseen."

5:117 "I only said to them what You commanded me to say, that you shall serve God my Lord and your Lord; and I was witness over them as long as I was with them, but when You terminated my life, You were watcher over them. You are witness over all things."

5:118 "If You punish them, then they are Your servants, and if You forgive them, then You are the Noble, the Wise."

5:119 God will say: "This is a Day when the truth will benefit the truthful; they will have estates with rivers flowing beneath them, abiding therein eternally; God has become pleased with them and they are pleased with Him. Such is the greatest victory."

Makara = deceit - Arabic Translation, it has NEVER been confused with schemer. Your god is Satan.

[Jarnauga]

Makara = deceit - Arabic Translation, it has NEVER been confused with schemer. Your god is Satan.

http://p8.storage.canalblog.com/80/67/177230/63901176.jpg

[Saludeen]

Makara = deceit - Arabic Translation, it has NEVER been confused with schemer. Your god is Satan.

The word referring to God is المكرين - And the transliteration is Almkryn. It means planner.
http://www.almaany.com/en/dict/ar-en/%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%83%D8%B1%D9%8A%D9%86/

ومكروا ومكر الله والله خير المكرين
3:54 And they schemed and God schemed, but God is the best schemer.

The first word you're referring to مكر - means deceive, which is talking about the wicked people.

[AzzarTheGod]

This scumbag's father said there was no chance his religion was involved. He supposedly just saw 2 guys kissing one day and that made him angry enough to go do this.

Sounds like a lifetime democrat voter.

It was gay kissing. Lewd, open mouthed, flagrant.

Ever seen a straight couple make out in public? Didn't think so. It doesn't justify anything, but if you can't see how something like that might shake someone up who has never seen anything gay before, you are really bullshitting on mars right now.

You expect him to have NO REACTION whatsoever? He would react to an ugly straight couple just the same.

What I'm really curious is how many of those people inside the club had what would normally be a survivable gun shot wound, but simply bled out because of a 3 fucking hour standoff.

The law makers want to keep saying over and over, give up your guns, let the police handle it. No, they'll just sit outside for 3 hours while everyone bleeds out. Or in San Bernardino where they respond in a record 4 minutes yet 36 people are still shot and the shooters get away.

Yeah all trolling aside, the police response was atrocious. I was up late last night going through SMS messages and accounts of those 3 hours.

I have text-message logs that were released from the people inside that are just heart breaking play-by-play of their final hours. Its pretty graphic. He was still killing people when the police were outside for over 60 more minutes. He went back inside and did another patrol of the bathroom.

I'm officially angry at the Miami local police for not getting some fucking balls and storming the club without SWAT. FUCK those guys, seriously. I'd like to think I'd try to stop him as long as I had 2-3 other units with me and we were vested up. Cowards.

Also the fact it took 3 hours for SWAT to get a gameplan together. They need to at least shave an hour off that, those guys get paid the big bucks to work fast. They could have easily sent in the thermal imaging robot at 2:40 (which can see everyone), identified it was just 1 asshole, and dispatched him without all the fancy explosions, bulldozers, and stupid shit they did (what a mess for 1 fucking guy) over the next 3 hours while more people died. You wear ballistic plate armor for a reason, walk in the fucking door and put a bullet in his ass.

But yeah lets have the Fed focus on a new meaningless background check bill, and close those "gun show loopholes". We don't need to worry about readiness to respond to an active-shooter situation. Not like that ever happens or will ever happen again.

[Jarnauga]

I wonder what's happening in the heads of all the gay hating evangelical christians right now.

"Ok so gay is sin so they deserved it but it was a muslim so it's wrong and muslims are s4t4n so s4t4n helped my cause.. wut do :confused: "

[Saludeen]

I don't know if this site is credible, but apparently they were holding the door shut.

http://www.thedailysheeple.com/suspicious-details-from-orlando-shooting-man-cut-off-while-reporting-someone-held-the-door-shut-police-scanner-audio-missing-more_062016

There are groups who want to disarm the American people and they can't do it without an excuse. But who knows if its related to this attack. Although there's alot of red flags, especially when the media focuses on a single incident while shootings happen every single day.

[AzzarTheGod]

I don't know if this site is credible, but apparently they were holding the door shut.

http://www.thedailysheeple.com/suspicious-details-from-orlando-shooting-man-cut-off-while-reporting-someone-held-the-door-shut-police-scanner-audio-missing-more_062016

There are groups who want to disarm the American people and they can't do it without an excuse. But who knows if its related to this attack. Although there's alot of red flags, especially when the media focuses on a single incident while shootings happen every single day.

Hmmmm

Then you have the fact that Broadcastify, the world’s largest source of public safety, aircraft, rail, and marine radio live audio streams, just so happens to be missing the three hours of police scanner audio from midnight through 3 a.m. on June 12

So we know national security statutes have been invoked and the audio is now classified (same thing happened in Newtown, that's not saying anything though) We do have SMS messages of club patrons from a few sources, which now we can't check against the scanner because its been classified.

Its FEMA law / policy to classify Mass Casualty Incidents as a matter of national security. This doesn't mean there was any conspiracy yet, but 0bama did promise transparency and to be the most transparent administration of all time.

So, is this going to be another Newtown where they withhold 911 and scanner tapes again only to release a small piece of them later to just the Big Media outlets?

Rather than let journalists go over the entire tapes of the incident?

I am guessing the police response was so atrocious we won't be getting those tapes in their unedited format, ever. I'll put the house on that.

[Blitzers]

Beware of Taqiyya

[Saludeen]

Beware of Taqiyya

Yeah beware. Taqiyya is a lie and no Muslim should ever deny being a Muslim for anything in this world, even if they're threatened.

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
7:123 Pharaoh said: "Have you become believers before I have given you permission? This is surely some scheme which you have schemed in the city to drive its people out; you will reveal what you know."

7:124 "I will cut off your hands and feet from alternate sides, then I will crucify you all."

7:125 They said: "It is to our Lord that we will return."

[fash]

Everybody is all stirred up about this shooting. I don't even know why anybody cares. It's not even newsworthy.

I got an idea. Let's bring into our civilization a bunch of violent, religious fanatics from a culture that our government has been waging war with for decades, and let's just let them go hang out near the really loud, flamboyant homosexual night club. And we'll see if anything goes wrong with that. If anyone says, "hey, this might not be a great idea", we'll just call them intolerant bigots, drag them to re-education camps, and deprive them of weapons to protect them against invading degenerate hordes.

Maybe we'll all be peacefully praying towards Mecca in the next few years.

[Pokesan]

Maybe we'll all be peacefully praying towards Mecca in the next few years.

inshallah

[Daywolf]

How many people die yearly from gun violence in US vs EU? Preventing all of it is obviously impossible, what ratio is acceptable?
You know those statistics they circulate, this usually includes suicides and self-defense statistics. Then you can include urban insanity in that, because cities make people lunatics.

[Saludeen]

Everybody is all stirred up about this shooting. I don't even know why anybody cares. It's not even newsworthy.

I got an idea. Let's bring into our civilization a bunch of violent, religious fanatics from a culture that our government has been waging war with for decades, and let's just let them go hang out near the really loud, flamboyant homosexual night club. And we'll see if anything goes wrong with that. If anyone says, "hey, this might not be a great idea", we'll just call them intolerant bigots, drag them to re-education camps, and deprive them of weapons to protect them against invading degenerate hordes.

Maybe we'll all be peacefully praying towards Mecca in the next few years.

Saudi Arabia is an ally of the US. The rulers of that country are wahhabist sectarians though so it makes sense. The Ka'ba is a pagan temple anyway. The real temple is the Dome of the Rock.

[Pokesan]

You know those statistics they circulate, this usually includes suicides and self-defense statistics. Then you can include urban insanity in that, because cities make people lunatics.

Why don't urban deaths count?

[fash]

You know those statistics they circulate, this usually includes suicides and self-defense statistics. Then you can include urban insanity in that, because cities make people lunatics.

They also disregard effects of an armed citizenry and other crimes prevented by guns, such as burglary. Why do shootings like this take place in gun free areas?

[Daywolf]

You're very ignorant about Islam and even the Arabic language, because Allah is how you say God in Arabic
Got to that point... no that's ignorant .. or misleading.
What is it? "there is only one god and allah is god"? It's not acceptable to say "there is only one god and god is god". So no, that's misleading, at least it is now for you as I released you from ignorance on that point anyway. You can talk down to me all you want about your supposed command of Arabik so you think you know better, but even if that were of any importance you still miss the logic which nullifies any supposed relevance of an assumed superior language. Logic transcends language.

The usage of allah was contributed to the moon in pre-islamic pagan times. If you note the symbols on about every islamic flag, it contains the moon, or the crescent moon, of which was worshiped. It's simply a political ideology hidden inside a hybrid religion of ancient paganism.

If you are at a computer, in the West, and actually hold this as your religion, feel fortunate you are here and can escape such a religion without loss of your life as happens in other countries, even by your own family. In the West we call that a cult, or the actions thereof. Hassan Chop!
Though you've just likely taken RP too seriously. Don't tell anyone at your mosque you play EQ.

[Daywolf]

I don't know if this site is credible, but apparently they were holding the door shut.

http://www.thedailysheeple.com/suspicious-details-from-orlando-shooting-man-cut-off-while-reporting-someone-held-the-door-shut-police-scanner-audio-missing-more_062016

There are groups who want to disarm the American people and they can't do it without an excuse. But who knows if its related to this attack. Although there's alot of red flags, especially when the media focuses on a single incident while shootings happen every single day.Yeah I already mentioned that here yesterday at post #98 (http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2298368&postcount=98)

I'm waiting for this witness to resurface somewhere (though the FBI prolly has him now). In this situation, one or two witnesses would have credibility due to the panic and confusion as most there would be spellbound over and not notice, or be dead. ABC news only showing their bias it would seem, wanting this guy to be made out as just some loose cannon on his own. But it turns out this guy is well connected, and yes possibly had help.

As for gun grabs, every situation no matter if a false flag joint operation or whatnot, leads to calls for gun grabs by the left. As the left says "you never want a serious crisis to go to waste (https://youtu.be/Pb-YuhFWCr4)". That's a macabre play on Churchill words "you never want a good crisis go to waste".

[Lune]

Saudi Arabia is an ally of the US. The rulers of that country are wahhabist sectarians though so it makes sense. The Ka'ba is a pagan temple anyway. The real temple is the Dome of the Rock.

http://i.imgur.com/miwxUdB.jpg

[Daywolf]

Why don't urban deaths count?
I didn't say they don't count, but that they count everything. The narrative being it's the guns fault. So if two gang bangers kill eachother over drugs, it's the guns fault and all guns need to be confiscated from those that keep them for defense from the drugged out gang bangers. And if the gang bangers murder a lawful citizens family and he is so broken he kills himself with a gun, it's the guns fault. It's always the guns fault, though the people that want to take our guns don't want their own guns taken away as well, and wont.

Fact of the matter is, you cant rely on the government to protect you, not when it matters. You can't wait 4-20 minutes for a cop, and he might even just shoot you instead, be it intentional or unintentional as the wait may lead you to becoming a hostage situation which is volatile. I trust you enough to defend yourself Pok3&, and the smarts to not go after me considering I'm armed. I'm speaking hypothetically of course.

Which is more important, liberty or safety?

[Pokesan]

okay urban deaths count but less so

thanks alot daywolf

[Daywolf]

okay urban deaths count but less so

thanks alot daywolf
No you are inverting. Um... urban deaths are counted, but not distinguished from others, and I'm speaking more of population densities and the magnet of criminals to such areas. Just as much as suicides are counted, just all thrown into the pot and blamed on guns. Or say if you found yourself on the defensive end of a home invasion robbery, and you shot the guys before they shot you. Well that is just tossed in as a statistic of a gun crime etc.

After all, I grew up around LA. F-ing gunshots all the time, shootings and deaths. I was shot at a number of times as well, as well as knives pulled on me, assaults on me, chased by gangs, even chased by stupid cops. I got the hell out during what they called "white flight". Where I live now, it's only just starting to creep in (too many people now), that stuff again, and soon I'll move again to somewhere with low population density. Cities suck, period. Want less gun crime? spread out and own guns.

[Pokesan]

two paragraphs and i have no idea what your point is

[Daywolf]

two paragraphs and i have no idea what your point isAll raw data is (or may be) correct. But interpretations are often wrong. There is no place for one raw all encompassing figure in this matter, as is often presented as for the purposes of ideological gain.

[Ahldagor]

No you are inverting. Um... urban deaths are counted, but not distinguished from others, and I'm speaking more of population densities and the magnet of criminals to such areas. Just as much as suicides are counted, just all thrown into the pot and blamed on guns. Or say if you found yourself on the defensive end of a home invasion robbery, and you shot the guys before they shot you. Well that is just tossed in as a statistic of a gun crime etc.

After all, I grew up around LA. F-ing gunshots all the time, shootings and deaths. I was shot at a number of times as well, as well as knives pulled on me, assaults on me, chased by gangs, even chased by stupid cops. I got the hell out during what they called "white flight". Where I live now, it's only just starting to creep in (too many people now), that stuff again, and soon I'll move again to somewhere with low population density. Cities suck, period. Want less gun crime? spread out and own guns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZY03tEIDKA

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

urban deaths = 3/5ths of a death?

[fash]

urban deaths = 3/5ths of a death?

Urban youth don't count.

[Daywolf]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZY03tEIDKA
I agree, it is a jungle. For all intensive purposes we live in a PvP environment. Would you run around red99, unarmed? Only here though, we have a perma-death system, in which there are lasting consequences to wanting to be an aggressor. Still, there are plenty of victims, but often the case they allow themselves to be the victims by choosing to enter gun free zones and being an easy target.

Only bars I've gone to are cowboy bars. What nutjob is going to try to gun down a bunch of gun loving cowboys like this? Nah, they go after liberal soft targets, where their actions will likely not be challenged, and may even make it out alive, themselves.

[nicemace]

For all intents and purposes mate. If you're going to TRY and sound smart, get it right. Next you're going to tell me you got your arguing methods down pact lololol

[Daywolf]

For all intents and purposes mate. If you're going to TRY and sound smart, get it right. Next you're going to tell me you got your arguing methods down pact lololol
Agh the grammar police are here! You know what I meant.
"For all intensive purposes (for all intents and purposes)

For all intents and purposes is the usual form of the phrase meaning in every practical sense. For all intensive purposes is a fairly common eggcorn derived from the original phrase. It’s often heard in speech, but it’s rare in published writing because it generally doesn’t pass through the editorial process."http://grammarist.com/eggcorns/for-all-intensive-purposes/
You offering to be my editor? I'm just a writer, not paying for an editor to post in a elf sim forum :D I've used both in the past, you're the first one to call it out.

Arguing? I prefer to call it debating. Though, we don't have formal debates here in this forum, it's more an exchange of ideas. I think your ideas are dumb btw :rolleyes:

[Xaanka]

Daywolf isn't even a troll, he really is that autistic.

[Daywolf]

Daywolf isn't even a troll, he really is that autistic.
I see they took down your gay porn again.

[Xaanka]

It's NOT gay to get fucked by a woman.

[Daywolf]

It's NOT gay to get fucked by a woman.
Slight difference in opinion on a cross-dresser thinking he's a her, uh-huh. And every time you put it up they take it down. Hmmm... wonder why. heh

[Xaanka]

Slight difference in opinion on a cross-dresser thinking he's a her, uh-huh. And every time you put it up they take it down. Hmmm... wonder why. heh

My sig was only taken down once :confused::confused::confused:
So are you gay then, if you won't participate in sex with a woman?

[sOurDieSel]

Build a wall, deport them all.

[Pokesan]

Build a wall, deport them all.

deport your posts to the garbage

[Daywolf]

My sig was only taken down once :confused::confused::confused:
Counting the ban, I would say twice. er or was that three times? but meh

[Nihilist_santa]

Build a wall, deport them all.

Thats right. Say it loud and say it proud.

http://i.imgur.com/brW7dg9.jpg

[Rogean]

As far as the LEOSA, it overrides State law.

Only the portion of law that prohibits carrying a firearm in general, and not the sections that determine where a person can carry. Some states verbage for those restrictions only cover their own on-duty law enforcement, some cover 'any law enforcement officer', some say 'authorized law enforcement' which opens up the debate for what constitutes as 'authorized'.

What's even more funny, is that if an off duty cop is carrying in another state under LEOSA, they can't go into a school because of the federal Gun Free School Zones law. That law specifically says that it doesn't apply to anyone licensed within that state (which opens it up for states that issue licenses to determine their own laws with school carry), but that means someone carrying in the state under LEOSA doesn't have a license within that state and is still bound by GFSZ.

Would anything actually be done about that? Probably not, because it would require a federal officer to arrest and charge.

[Rogean]

they are technically still bound by that state's laws which dictate where they can carry

As far as the LEOSA, it overrides State law.

§ 926B. Carrying of concealed firearms by qualified law
enforcement officers
(a) Notwithstanding any other provision of the law of any
State or any political subdivision thereof, an individual who is
a qualified law enforcement officer and who is carrying the identification
required by subsection (d) may carry a concealed firearm
that has been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce,
subject to subsection (b).
(b) This section shall not be construed to supersede or limit
the laws of any State that—
(1) permit private persons or entities to prohibit or restrict
the possession of concealed firearms on their property; or
(2) prohibit or restrict the possession of firearms on any
State or local government property, installation, building, base,
or park.

[sOurDieSel]

The FGFSZ also technically applies to out of state concealed carry permits although again is never enforced.

Gotta love that commerce clause....

[Xaanka]

Counting the ban, I would say twice. er or was that three times? but meh

but my sig never got removed when i got banned :confused::confused: that's the only reason i still had it

[Xaanka]

§ 926B. Carrying of concealed firearms by qualified law
enforcement officers
(a) Notwithstanding any other provision of the law of any
State or any political subdivision thereof, an individual who is
a qualified law enforcement officer and who is carrying the identification
required by subsection (d) may carry a concealed firearm
that has been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce,
subject to subsection (b).
(b) This section shall not be construed to supersede or limit
the laws of any State that—
(1) permit private persons or entities to prohibit or restrict
the possession of concealed firearms on their property; or
(2) prohibit or restrict the possession of firearms on any
State or local government property, installation, building, base,
or park.

blue server raiding rules lookin good right now :cool:

[Rogean]

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=720_1465819623

Take a listen to that video. You gotta be fucking kidding me. Why are they not charging this fucking asshole RIGHT NOW?

[AzzarTheGod]

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=720_1465819623

Take a listen to that video. You gotta be fucking kidding me. Why are they not charging this fucking asshole RIGHT NOW?

Negligent homicide sounds good for starters. Or depraved heart murder in some states.

First, its not his job to block a door, or to act in the interest of public safety. Blocking a door when there ISN'T a mass shooting taking place is also illegal. Go figure you can't block a fire exit under any circumstance. They teach this in grade school. This kid sniffed too many poppers.

Second, he acknowledges he heard people trying to get out. That's enough confession to indict on multiple charges.

He is not a police officer. He had no right to do that, shooting aside. While I'd like for some big charges to shake his tree, I'd be happy with at least the same charge I would get if I went to a bar, pushed a dumpster in front of a fire exit, and sat in front of it declaring my intent while letting the police know that I blocked a fire exit.

At least get this fuck a misdemeanor so we can keep the faith that god is good.

[Daywolf]

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=720_1465819623

Take a listen to that video. You gotta be fucking kidding me. Why are they not charging this fucking asshole RIGHT NOW?
So, an eyewitness sees this and reports it on ABC news live, and they cut him off. Now the guy who did this shows up with a lame story, no handcuffs or anything.
1. The guy was working with the shooter, or
2. The guy was high as a kite. Maybe too high to hold the door.
There is just no way... holding the doors to keep the shooter in? Something deeply wrong with this scene.

[Blitzers]

Yeah beware. Taqiyya is a lie and no Muslim should ever deny being a Muslim for anything in this world, even if they're threatened.

Not what Muhammad said^^^

So the "prophet" is wrong?

[sOurDieSel]

He dindu nuffins. Quit trying to blame America's gun problem on violent low iq 3rd worlders guys. Its the gun's fault and the gun alone, well the NRA and Trump are also at fault too of course... The only way to make up for this travesty is to eviscerate the Second Amendment, import millions of rapeugees and force Christian bakers to bake gay wedding cakes. Its the only logical thing to do because you know, someone on the Talmudvision told me to.

[Daywolf]

http://nypost.com/2016/06/13/shooter-used-to-visit-orlando-gay-club-use-gay-dating-apps/
His ex-wife says he's gay. He even had gay dating apps he used. That gay club was his hangout, been going there for years. He wasn't just going there to prep for the killing spree, he went to party and get ripped there.

[maskedmelon]

http://nypost.com/2016/06/13/shooter-used-to-visit-orlando-gay-club-use-gay-dating-apps/
His ex-wife says he's gay. He even had gay dating apps he used. That gay club was his hangout, been going there for years. He wasn't just going there to prep for the killing spree, he went to party and get ripped there.

self loathing

[Trollhide]

For all intents and purposes mate. If you're going to TRY and sound smart, get it right. Next you're going to tell me you got your arguing methods down pact lololol
"down pact" is a phrase you made up that means nothing. I believe "down pat" is what you were gunning for.

If you're going to TRY and sound smart, get it right.


I feel so dirty having just somewhat defended Daywolf :(

[Pokesan]

"down pact" is a phrase you made up that means nothing. I believe "down pat" is what you were gunning for.




I feel so dirty having just somewhat defended Daywolf :(

the mistake was intentional

[Daywolf]

self loathing
That was from an interview in Brazil. The FBI told her not to say anything about it to the US media. I had seen her CNN interview, she said "I don't know", but seems to be afraid of the FBI which told her not to mention he was gay.

Gay + muslim. I think maybe less about self loathing and more about some form of redemptive act. Meanwhile reddit and FB bannings if mention this guy was a muslim. But I'm thinking more to this story. World gone mad.

[Lune]

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=720_1465819623

Take a listen to that video. You gotta be fucking kidding me. Why are they not charging this fucking asshole RIGHT NOW?

God damnit Bran not again

http://i.imgur.com/IrNtRkf.jpg

[maskedmelon]

Gay + muslim. I think maybe less about self loathing and more about some form of redemptive act. Meanwhile reddit and FB bannings if mention this guy was a muslim. But I'm thinking more to this story. World gone mad.

Sure, I can see that with a fair measure of vengeance mixed in for the contempt he felt towards those 'nasty fags' for tempting him. I'd lump all that into self loathing though, because it all stems from his inability to reconcile two conflicting parts of himself. Ultimately the religion of peace prevailed.

It is a great narrative to shift focus to the dangers religious fundamentalism though, because now we can dismiss the Islamic link as nothing more than conservative repression and freely label this as a random act of violence rather than a purposeful act of terror.


I am not sure what to believe now, to be honest :/