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Daydrem
01-30-2010, 05:08 PM
OK, Rhalous, my raidleader for Divinity posted this in the long thread about Divinity wanting in the rotation but since that thread has gotten so off topic I think it deserves a new thread. We want to try to go at this diplomatically and I am willing to meet with and talk to the leaders from Trans and IB about this anytime. I have a guild full of people ready and able to move ahead in the game and I believe having the threat of a 14 day ban if we try to force our way into the rotation is a bit unfair.. but we are willing to try to work around the outdated rotation issue this way before deciding the 14 ban might be worth it to have a chance to do more then ride the kiddie rides.

~Day

Rhalous's post:


http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1469

This is the post by Wenai on 12/15/09. It details the raid rotation. I think there has been mutual respect by Div to both IB and Trans, and would like to propose a solution to our problem.
Give Divinity a shot at Naggy. We can work out the rotation of the boss mobs, but it is important that we show everyone that we can kill these bosses in order of difficulty. I am all for us getting thrown right into the middle of the rotation, but if you want proof we can take these targets, then I will give you proof. When I have 36 ppl show up to clear PoF trash, I think it shows that my people are hungry for content.
I can add more or discuss this ingame, but I am too busy to play for most of the day today. Feel free to PM if you like, or I will try to contact your raid leaders when I can pop ingame.
All I ask for is a fair solution.
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Divinity

drplump
01-30-2010, 05:57 PM
I have to admit just killing naggy and giving the server the finger and saying fuck it 14 day ban us would be pretty bad ass!

Yellow
01-30-2010, 06:07 PM
Hells yeah my lvl 12 bard will join you on the 14day ban if needed! the rotation is utter bullshit I respect you guys alot for this and you guys deserve raiding as much as the rest of us.. The rotation is a stupid thing it should be first come first serve that way there is no worrys about bans if you kill a raid target.. btw ROTATION IS NOT CLASSIC ... i rest my case.

Tryfaen
01-30-2010, 07:04 PM
Who is in charge of maintaining the rotation, the guilds themselves or the GMs?
Either way, whomever is in charge has neglected their responsibilities if you still haven't straitened this out.

Jify
01-30-2010, 07:12 PM
Hells yeah my lvl 12 bard will join you on the 14day ban if needed! the rotation is utter bullshit I respect you guys alot for this and you guys deserve raiding as much as the rest of us.. The rotation is a stupid thing it should be first come first serve that way there is no worrys about bans if you kill a raid target.. btw ROTATION IS NOT CLASSIC ... i rest my case.

Watch out orange. The nay-sayers will soon call you childish, greedy, ignorant, etc.

History tends to repeat it's self....
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1488
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1470

And many alternatives have been suggested, that were consistantly shot down...
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1580
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1500

Although, with Divinity's help we may be able to finally get someone to listen to us. Maybe we need a PR position in our guild or something... lol

Yellow
01-30-2010, 07:17 PM
this is fine. the rotation is a bad idea in general and i have every right to say it :) The game was not meant to have a rotation in it it was meant to be if you got to the target first its yours... plain and simple.

Also thanks for linking those post... the top one Otto makes one hell of an arguement and speaks the truth ( i dont know about the guild drama i wasnt here when that happened nor do i care)

Zithax
01-30-2010, 08:15 PM
hey how about we have a competition to see who deserves the mobs

ok we race mobs when they spawn, whoever mobilizes and kills the mob first wins!

oh wait

anthony210
01-30-2010, 08:53 PM
This rotation bullshit is completly retarded. Whats gonna happen when 5+ guilds are able to raid? You gonna allow a guild 1 shot at Nagefan/Vox every 5 weeks? Seriously?

Why does a guild have to "prove" they can kill a mob before they get on this stupid rotation? How do they ever practice killing a raid target if they cant get any attempts in because this rotation says they cant. Divinity has been trying to get their name on the rotation for awhile now and its pretty damn stupid that they cant attempt a raid target because their guild name isnt on the list.

Do away with it. Let the guilds fight for the mobs and may the best guild win.

I say Divinity go ahead and go kill Nagefan, take the ban if the devs really want to but if they ban you for it they may lose some players because of it.

Im not an alt, names Jinsho from Paradigm.

Ektar
01-30-2010, 09:17 PM
NOT ON TOPIC

Stop shitting up this post too, christ =p. This is not the place to discuss the flaws of the rotation.


Do not discuss forcing your way into the rotation at risk of 14-day ban, because that's not how it's going to happen. If you read wenai's post, it says that it will be dealt with if/when another guild is ready to enter the rotation.

Divinity is not at risk of being left out; Ib and trans are supportive and, though I can't surely speak for the GMs, I'm sure, given the history of the server, would love to oblige. The issue comes down to working something out with them (as well as Otto and Allizia), as this is a GM enforced rotation.

If dealings with the GMs are not as cut and dry as I assume, then working with the guildleaders is in order. I have no authority so I won't propose anything, but you guys work that out.

anthony210
01-30-2010, 09:51 PM
They have tried communicating. Obviously its not working. Some of had they have to proove they are able to kill the mobs. How do they proove it if they cant even get an attempt in? And what if they wipe the first time? Thats it they are out???

Rotations work on mobs or zones that only 2-3 guilds are fighting. Once more guilds join the frey on a week long respawn mob things are going to get ugly. No one wants to wait a month or more to get 1 shot at a mob.

Rhalous
01-30-2010, 09:56 PM
Stop shitting up this post too, christ =p. This is not the place to discuss the flaws of the rotation.


Do not discuss forcing your way into the rotation at risk of 14-day ban, because that's not how it's going to happen. If you read wenai's post, it says that it will be dealt with if/when another guild is ready to enter the rotation.

Divinity is not at risk of being left out; Ib and trans are supportive and, though I can't surely speak for the GMs, I'm sure, given the history of the server, would love to oblige. The issue comes down to working something out with them (as well as Otto and Allizia), as this is a GM enforced rotation.

If dealings with the GMs are not as cut and dry as I assume, then working with the guildleaders is in order. I have no authority so I won't propose anything, but you guys work that out.

Ektar just finished some of my thoughts for me. Thumbs up, bro

Wikipedia2
01-30-2010, 10:35 PM
Lol some of you guys act like this is a huge bureaucratic process.

Let me show you how easy it could be!
Step 1: A gm posts something about it
Step 2: done!

anthony210
01-31-2010, 12:24 AM
In theory it should be that it easy. And if it was Divinity would already be in the rotation. They should not have to proof anything to anyone, if they have the numbers they should be allowed a rotation spot. Any guild that requests to be put into the rotation should be allowed into the rotation no questions asked, especially since said rotation is GM enforced and the guild cant just say fuck the rotation and kill the mob anyway.

But here we are awhile after they requested to be put into the rotation and they are still not in it nor has anyone made any plans to allow them to kill. So they are sitting on their thumbs killing PoF trash and Phinny.

There is no reason why it has to be like this...

drplump
01-31-2010, 03:52 AM
just say fuck the rotation and kill the mob anyway.


Also PoF trash is on rotation too and usually only gets killed once every 2 days because of it.

anthony210
01-31-2010, 04:19 AM
awsome. So anyone not blessed enough to be in this rotation has to settle for Phinny.

Smells fishy to me...

karsten
01-31-2010, 04:21 AM
get it cuz phinny is in an underwater zone hehe

Tristin
01-31-2010, 04:28 AM
I lol'd

Salty
01-31-2010, 11:09 AM
Divinity is going to slay some dragons.

Yellow
01-31-2010, 11:36 AM
ive been doing lot of work to figure out a solution to the rotation business and ive goten som great ideas but i still have the oone problem... and thats that the GMs claim they dont want to interfere with raiding but i realised that they interfere with raiding more using this rotation... they completely contradicted themselves.

If we could only solve the issue of who actually gets the mob when 2 or more guilds are waiting on a spawn it would be solved. because no one wants a KS fight

Taluvill
01-31-2010, 11:46 AM
I really, really hope you guys get your shot soon. No use in waiting on it; Divinity is ready to go and raid. They have the skill, and finally, the numbers to back it up.

Cheers guys :D

I think the only problem with this whole thing is not that you can't kill any of this content. That much is true. You guys can raid with the big guys. The problem is going to be finding the guild willing to give up their raid mob first. Everyone is afraid of falling behind the curb, and No one wants to lose their mob.

I'm all for it though guys.

Glitch
01-31-2010, 01:31 PM
this is fine. the rotation is a bad idea in general and i have every right to say it :) The game was not meant to have a rotation in it it was meant to be if you got to the target first its yours... plain and simple.

Also thanks for linking those post... the top one Otto makes one hell of an arguement and speaks the truth ( i dont know about the guild drama i wasnt here when that happened nor do i care)

Hi who are you again?

yaaaflow
01-31-2010, 01:58 PM
He's the level 10ish bard running around, he's kind of a big deal haven't you heard of him?

Kebin
01-31-2010, 03:27 PM
I remember back on Karana server, they did the rotation thing...I remember seven to eight guilds in a rotation for Vox and Naggy....was crazy!

Zuuz
01-31-2010, 04:55 PM
Just a thought.

If there are currently 3 guild on the rotation, why not lower the spawn to two days? Then all 3 guilds get to kill the dragon onces a week and problem solved?
I think the rotation is a stupid idea and needs to go away but.





Zuuz, future SK tank p1999

Pikle
01-31-2010, 06:37 PM
Well we brought this issue up when you guys were talking about how to settle the first IB and Trans issues. A rotation meant that the upcoming guilds would not only have a hard time breaking in, but they would be punished for attempting. Now a lot of guilds will soon want in on all the raid mobs, not sure how you are going to do this. I will tell you this though, on my server we had a rotation, it was set up pretty early too. So saying ROTATION isn't CLASSIC doesn't really matter, this isn't Classic, although we attempt to make as much classic as we can. This is a new experience although we are trying to solve the same player problems from 10 years ago. The GM's wanted to not be involved, but I just don't think that's possible. Consdering the GM's are also in the raid guilds.

A Rotation can work, everyone just has to be fair and balanced, new content will be out soon.

I did have a good idea though. Have the new guilds that think they are capable to join the rotation, once they take down a raid mob, they are in until they cannot take down raid mobs again (Guild split or leaders leave, whatever reason). Once new content comes out, it should be FFA for the first few weeks, you guys could settle on a time frame, 2 weeks a month, whatever. Then it gets put into the rotation along with the other older mobs. The new content would be the old Verant rules, first to come and engage with a raid force gets the mob. Now this doesn't mean you can kite the mob around (if it is kitable) until your raid gets there, which I have seen done.

Just trying to think of something to keep as many people as we can.

Yellow
01-31-2010, 07:37 PM
Hi who are you again?
See below
He's the level 10ish bard running around, he's kind of a big deal haven't you heard of him?
Hells yeah im a big deal :]

Karbuk
01-31-2010, 11:48 PM
This is why you play WoW and have instances so everyone gets a shot once a week lol...classic EQ is great to play...and very horrible at the same time...wasnt designed well at all :P

and btw GMs or whoever is in charge of the rotation is already IN the rotation...they are going to take their sweet time letting div into the rotation until they get all the items they want lol...shitty but its just the facts lol...its what you get from an emulator...bad support, buggy, shit missing from game and not much fairness at all...but hey they did it and they give it to us for free :P

Myth
02-01-2010, 12:07 AM
I don't remember what server it was but...
There was a tier rotation like this on one of the EQ live servers. When a guild was ready to move up to the next tier they had to petition a GM and then the GMs would coordinate a date/time for said guild to have a shot at a non-loot version of the hardest raid boss in that tier.

If the guild kills the boss, they are allowed into that tier. Damn me for forgetting what server this was. I swear this is true, it wasn't a dream or anything, lol.

So... if you want to "test your might", why not have the GM's spawn a non-loot copy of a raid boss in the Arena? If Divinity is able to complete the encounter, they should be allowed into rotation.

I'm sure there is some way to do this. I faintly remember there being a specific number of attempts, and a mandatory waiting period, to retry, if a guild fails.

Is this possible on p99?

Hasbinbad
02-01-2010, 12:24 AM
I don't remember what server it was but...
There was a tier rotation like this on one of the EQ live servers. When a guild was ready to move up to the next tier they had to petition a GM and then the GMs would coordinate a date/time for said guild to have a shot at a non-loot version of the hardest raid boss in that tier.

If the guild kills the boss, they are allowed into that tier. Damn me for forgetting what server this was. I swear this is true, it wasn't a dream or anything, lol.

So... if you want to "test your might", why not have the GM's spawn a non-loot copy of a raid boss in the Arena? If Divinity is able to complete the encounter, they should be allowed into rotation.

I'm sure there is some way to do this. I faintly remember there being a specific number of attempts, and a mandatory waiting period, to retry, if a guild fails.

Is this possible on p99?
That is a really good idea if it's implementable.

Jify
02-01-2010, 12:45 AM
That is a really good idea if it's implementable.

Agreed. Would eliminate the problem of having the GMs "spawn" the mob. And by spawn I mean giving a guild/people extra loot. We'd still have the "1 kill a month" problem, but this would at least allow Divinity a shot at getting in rotation.

I'm personally still all for rotation with 1h slots instead of 24 hours.

Myth
02-01-2010, 12:54 AM
I've been searching the web to see if I can dig up the post/page/whatever that I read, but I can't find anything.

Closest thing I found is this:
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/wiki/eq:Raid_Progression_Guide

Allizia
02-01-2010, 01:10 AM
I don't remember what server it was but...
There was a tier rotation like this on one of the EQ live servers. When a guild was ready to move up to the next tier they had to petition a GM and then the GMs would coordinate a date/time for said guild to have a shot at a non-loot version of the hardest raid boss in that tier.

If the guild kills the boss, they are allowed into that tier. Damn me for forgetting what server this was. I swear this is true, it wasn't a dream or anything, lol.

So... if you want to "test your might", why not have the GM's spawn a non-loot copy of a raid boss in the Arena? If Divinity is able to complete the encounter, they should be allowed into rotation.

I'm sure there is some way to do this. I faintly remember there being a specific number of attempts, and a mandatory waiting period, to retry, if a guild fails.

Is this possible on p99?

It was Stormhammer. The tier system worked great through PoP and beyond, but eventually broke down. The Basic tiers we would have now would be Tier 1 (Naggy - Vox - Dracho) and Tier 2 (CT - Inny)

A GM would summon them in the Arena once a week when a guild wanted to move up a tier. You could only move up one tier per week and if you failed you had to wait another week.

Some of the problems were based on mobs being harder or easier in the arena. Naggy and Vox for example would be much harder since there is no wall to LoS behind. CT would be easier because there is no trash to kill beforehand.

I forget the amount of time you had to kill targets on your rotation, but I remember it was actually longer than 24 hours. If you failed however, you went down a tier and had to wait a week to retest.

Taluvill
02-01-2010, 02:54 AM
Some of the problems were based on mobs being harder or easier in the arena. Naggy and Vox for example would be much harder since there is no wall to LoS behind. CT would be easier because there is no trash to kill beforehand.

100% agree. maybe they could set up for naggy in sol b on like a saturday night when no one would do that anyways, gm spawns naggy like he would pop for trans or ib, and there ya go.dont do it in the arena. CT on the other hand, i guess you wouldn't technically have to clear the whole zone. so that would be borked.

Edit: Dracho would be the arena, and vox would be in perma, and gm would just pop it there. no reason to put naggy and vox in the arena. Have them do the mobs like intended.

Example: Alright, Div, This is wenai and i'm going to spawn naggy for you on saturday night at 7pm cst. plan accordingly. (obviously they would pick a time that div agreed on)
They'd get in, set up, and do whatever nescessary. a non loot version would be there, and if he wasnt killed within a few hours, he'd be depopped. simple. same for the rest of them, except dracho and ct would be a bit tough to do in the arena

drplump
02-01-2010, 03:57 AM
Just leave non-loot versions of naggy ct and vox up in the arena on 28 min respawn.

Pikle
02-01-2010, 06:38 AM
Yeah that is a good idea! I really like it. What do you guys think about when new raid mobs are released it's free for all with old school verant rules?

guineapig
02-01-2010, 08:57 AM
Pesonally I don't think killing a boss mob in the Arena is remotely the same thing as an actual raid in the zone it was intended to be in... but whatever works.

Myth
02-01-2010, 09:42 AM
I only recommended arena because it can be off limits to other players. I don't see why you should have to do EVERY boss. Just spawn CT in the arena. If you kill him you obviously can do anything in tier 1.

On Stormhammer you didn't do every single boss in your tier. There was 1 specific raid boss that was considered to be the hardest of the tier you wanted to move into. If you can defeat said raid boss you were added to that tiers rotation

drplump
02-01-2010, 10:11 AM
Please take fear trash off rotation. This will help a lot of small guilds who are coming up.

Trimm
02-01-2010, 11:43 AM
Please take fear trash off rotation. This will help a lot of small guilds who are coming up.

This would be a good start at least.

Hasbinbad
02-01-2010, 12:12 PM
While I like the idea of spawning a dummy mob:
Ability to kill CT =/= Ability to kill other mobs.
You should have to CLEAR fear in order to get a shot at CT (the clear is harder than CT).
Spawning it in the arena changes the raid, so is not a good indicator of how the force would do at the raid site.
The more I think about it, the less I like it.

guineapig
02-01-2010, 12:47 PM
While I like the idea of spawning a dummy mob:
Ability to kill CT =/= Ability to kill other mobs.
You should have to CLEAR fear in order to get a shot at CT (the clear is harder than CT).
Spawning it in the arena changes the raid, so is not a good indicator of how the force would do at the raid site.
The more I think about it, the less I like it.

That's what I was thinking. You can zerg any old world boss to be honest.
CT is a perfect example but the same goes for other bosses as well.

Klling Phinny is easy. Having an organized group of people navigating to phinny through kedge and having capable pullers to split the seahorses in Phinny's chamber, that's the test of skill. Putting Phinny into the Arena (besides looking silly) does not replicate any aspect of the raid at all, although I would love to not have his head in a ceiling for half the fight for once.

Hasbinbad
02-01-2010, 01:40 PM
..test of skill..
lol?

guineapig
02-01-2010, 01:47 PM
lol?

Har har, you know what I mean. :p

If you have a guild full of asshats that don't pay attention, a Kedge raid can easily become nothing but a 5 hour corpse run.

And yes, I know there are easy ways to get to Phinny and split him from his guards. ;)

Hasbinbad
02-01-2010, 02:17 PM
ez way = pull seahorses, kill; repeat; pull phinny, kill.

Bigcountry23
02-01-2010, 03:50 PM
While I like the idea of spawning a dummy mob:
Ability to kill CT =/= Ability to kill other mobs.
You should have to CLEAR fear in order to get a shot at CT (the clear is harder than CT).

By this logic we are definitely ready for a shot at CT. After our intended fear clear was interrupted on Friday (by a guild that will remain nameless but was going after Draco) we got another shot on Saturday.

Cleared and relatively smooth from break in until port out.

guineapig
02-01-2010, 04:34 PM
ez way = pull seahorses, kill; repeat; pull phinny, kill.

No...
The easy way is to pull all seahorses at once to the opposite corner that the raid is at using 1-2 monks. Then while they are preoccupied on the ass opposite end of the chamber the MT tags Phinny to the raid.


That's how it used to be done on live... well til the level cap was raised to the point that the entire encounter was trivial.

karsten
02-01-2010, 06:25 PM
By this logic we are definitely ready for a shot at CT. After our intended fear clear was interrupted on Friday (by a guild that will remain nameless but was going after Draco) we got another shot on Saturday.

say what? We broke in for you, and then with over 30 people you guys couldn't even pull the temple and you ported out. Shit, toot your own horn if you want to but let's call a spade a spade

karsten
02-01-2010, 06:28 PM
No...
The easy way is to pull all seahorses at once to the opposite corner that the raid is at using 1-2 monks. Then while they are preoccupied on the ass opposite end of the chamber the MT tags Phinny to the raid.


That's how it used to be done on live... well til the level cap was raised to the point that the entire encounter was trivial.

actually the trick is to necro pull the seahorses to the other side of the room but have him die before he can get far enough away, then have someone lull-resist pull phinny so that he still pops up through the floor but at least this way you've got plausible deniability.

The next step is to have accidently gone too far into the middle of the room so that your mage pet aggroes the seahorses and when they're all headed back to their spawn point they kill your mage pet and then wipe your raid while you're fighting phinny in the same corner.

Boomlaor
02-01-2010, 06:38 PM
say what? We broke in for you, and then with over 30 people you guys couldn't even pull the temple and you ported out. Shit, toot your own horn if you want to but let's call a spade a spade

Yeah, the "we broke in for you" would be the part he was talking about with the interruption. And Saturday night, we broke in and cleared every mob in the zone (save 2 glare lords), including the temple. Speak not about that which you do not know.

Ektar
02-01-2010, 07:36 PM
~

President
02-01-2010, 07:47 PM
Woah woah woah, everyone chill and do my last name.

Bigcountry23
02-01-2010, 07:52 PM
WHOA WHOA WHOA...

@Ektar I wasn't giving anyone shit or accusing anyone of holding us down. It was just bad timing (which is why I wasn't saying "those Inglorious Bastards" /shakesfist). I was serious when I was saying shall remain nameless (until you guys dropped your own). I don't know what pops when, I have a raid officer to keep track of that for me. I just know when I need to port people where. We (Divinity as a whole) have no beef with you guys and I'm not looking to start Drama.

@Karsten While it is true on Friday night you all broke in before us and cleared a good chunk of the zone, on SATURDAY we went in and cleared it without problem.

Rhalous
02-01-2010, 07:52 PM
Another off topic thread.

Daydrem
02-01-2010, 08:08 PM
Yeah k, chill peoples. Fear on Friday was a big ball of misunderstanding that got worked out to be just fine thru the leadership channels so completely moot point now to argue over. We broke and cleared ourselves on Saturday so Divinity has cleared fear ourselves. These are just the facts and no need to troll or hate. zomg you people and your forums. =p

~Day

P.S. see me in game if you need a box of kleenex and a good QQ session that involves anything about Divinity. kthx

messiah_b
02-01-2010, 11:29 PM
This thread is why the internet sucks.

-Especially signing your post.

Jify
02-02-2010, 01:53 AM
P.S. see me in game if you need a box of kleenex and a good QQ session that involves anything about Divinity. kthx

/t Daydrem Got any runed oak bows for sale? Also, could you please tell Rhalous to invite me to more groups? I get the vibe that he doesn't love me anymore.

Cheech
02-02-2010, 04:59 AM
say what? We broke in for you, and then with over 30 people you guys couldn't even pull the temple and you ported out. Shit, toot your own horn if you want to but let's call a spade a spade
Awww was sloth mad because we wouldn't pull more of the temple for him? He went and QQ'd to you guys?? Temple was half clear and we were bored. We needed no gear from the temple... So we left.

karsten
02-02-2010, 05:04 AM
whoa bro, didn't mean to hurt ur feelins

Salty
02-02-2010, 05:26 AM
Woah Serious Business Going On

drplump
02-02-2010, 07:53 AM
Awww was sloth mad because we wouldn't pull more of the temple for him? He went and QQ'd to you guys?? Temple was half clear and we were bored. We needed no gear from the temple... So we left.

Divinity doesn't need to be on the rotation THEY ARE ALREADY BORED OF FEAR



One interesting note about PoF is that unlike Naggy/CT/Vox they do not become killable by anyone 24 hours after spawning they just pass over to the other guild. I have seen PoF remain untouched for 24 hours shouldn't it be fair game on that guilds day until they go clear it once again?


EDIT:
Correction, I just looked at the post about rotations and it looks like the guild gets rights to the spawn and nothing makes them forfeit not even spawn sitting for 24 hours. If a guild on rotation wanted to they could just decide not to kill Vox that is their choice and no one can kill Vox until that spawn is killed by them.

Salty
02-02-2010, 08:09 AM
So if I 1 group fear I'm going to get complained at?

merhhhhhhhhh

Otto
02-02-2010, 10:20 AM
EDIT:
Correction, I just looked at the post about rotations and it looks like the guild gets rights to the spawn and nothing makes them forfeit not even spawn sitting for 24 hours. If a guild on rotation wanted to they could just decide not to kill Vox that is their choice and no one can kill Vox until that spawn is killed by them.

Time for a Edit: Edit:

Sloth
02-02-2010, 01:03 PM
First of all don't drag my fucking name into any of this lame internet shit cheech. I could give a fuck. I'm a grown ass man and could care less about any drama in a game. Yea I asked you guys to pull temple for me. I knew it wasn't gonna happen. Then I joked around about it. Do you think I really care? Lol. Do not mention my name ever in your drama. I'm so above that shit. I doubt anyone in ib even cares about or knows about me asking jokingly for you guys to clear the temple for me.
I have tons of friends in divinity including your leader who would vouch for my integrity and friendliness. So please keep my name out of this shit I have no part in any of it.

Thanks and I hope you guys get a shot at the rotation as silly as it is.

Scrooge
02-02-2010, 01:04 PM
Also PoF trash is on rotation too and usually only gets killed once every 2 days because of it.

Is that actually written anywhere? Cause I haven't seen it..

Uaellaen
02-02-2010, 01:07 PM
Is that actually written anywhere? Cause I haven't seen it..

yes, here => http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1469
Due to farming Plane of Fear trash also being considered a viable raid target, this will also be under rotation.

Scrooge
02-02-2010, 01:09 PM
Amazing, so we can claim trash mobs! I wanna claim all the FGs since they're on a long respawn too!

Uaellaen
02-02-2010, 01:11 PM
read again ...

Due to farming Plane of Fear trash

Scrooge
02-02-2010, 01:16 PM
That post also states that rotation is for the two raiding guilds in question, it doesn't say anything about independent ventures or non-raiding expeditions. What's the consensus on that?

Shads
02-02-2010, 01:18 PM
No you can not go in there on your own or without being one of said 2 raiding guilds. You will get banned! Because drama and guilds fighting over raid targets isn't classic right? oh wait...

Uaellaen
02-02-2010, 01:20 PM
of course you can go in alone! do me a favor, go to feerrott, zone into plane of fear and scout it!

Shads
02-02-2010, 01:24 PM
of course you can go in alone! do me a favor, go to feerrott, zone into plane of fear and scout it!

But dont kill anything or you will get banned!!!:eek:

Rhalous
02-02-2010, 04:02 PM
/t Daydrem Got any runed oak bows for sale? Also, could you please tell Rhalous to invite me to more groups? I get the vibe that he doesn't love me anymore.



lol, bro. all i need you to do is quit your night classes and your new job!! oh, and you can only use regen in my sola groups, too!

Scrooge
02-02-2010, 07:13 PM
of course you can go in alone! do me a favor, go to feerrott, zone into plane of fear and scout it!

Heh....you've no idea what I'm about.

Jify
02-03-2010, 12:51 AM
Heh....you've no idea what I'm about.

Scrooge has that shit on lockdown.

karsten
02-03-2010, 01:11 AM
damn why'd you guys try to all go /anon and leapfrog trannies on CT today? after how helpful and supportive they've been of you -- that's just cold blooded

DickBangin'Granny
02-03-2010, 02:38 AM
They killed CT, took Trans spot on the rotation.

This is fucking bullshit.

Bull.

Shit.

guineapig
02-03-2010, 09:02 AM
They killed CT, took Trans spot on the rotation.

This is fucking bullshit.

Bull.

Shit.

no we didn't

Jify
02-03-2010, 09:03 AM
They killed CT, took Trans spot on the rotation.

This is fucking bullshit.

Bull.

Shit.

Srsly?

I'm like, not playing much. If they did, hardcore!

guineapig
02-03-2010, 09:06 AM
Nah, Granny is just trollin'.

KilyenaMage
02-03-2010, 04:32 PM
What a joke.

KilyenaMage
02-03-2010, 04:43 PM
hmm

KilyenaMage
02-03-2010, 04:47 PM
WHOA WHOA WHOA...

@Karsten While it is true on Friday night you all broke in before us and cleared a good chunk of the zone, on SATURDAY we went in and cleared it without problem.

Seriously...why even respond to Karsten? He's probably THE biggest douchebag on the server; and he's not a fan of facts or logic either.

karsten
02-03-2010, 06:14 PM
so first leeky was like

our intended fear clear was interrupted on Friday (by a guild that will remain nameless but was going after Draco)

and then i was all like
say what? We broke in for you

and then leeky was all like
While it is true on Friday night you all broke in before us and cleared a good chunk of the zone, on SATURDAY we went in and cleared it

so then since leeky is a funny and reasonable guy, i thought "oh ok so that's what he meant, let's just make sure we're not embellishing"

[Karsten]'s not a fan of facts or logic.

so actually, if you look at the conversation, turns out i'm SUCH a fan of facts and logic that i made sure everyone on this thread is sticking specifically to the facts and logic. In fact, I am even more of a fan of facts and logic than YOU!

oh shi-
http://www.dreamagic.com/roger/homeAlone.gif

Goobles
02-03-2010, 06:18 PM
That picture, and your oh shi- comment aren't even relevant to your preceding p[o]st. Try again.

Trimm
02-03-2010, 06:19 PM
mind = blown.

Scrooge
02-03-2010, 10:19 PM
Wtg Divinity on first full (non-raid mob) Fear clear! Even without the big boys, that's still something.

Spud
02-03-2010, 10:40 PM
thx scrooooge!