Porting is a privilege, not a right...

[Swyftfingers]

Can't help but feel bad for druids and wizzies. World would be a nicer place if people tipped their level in plat. You may say something like, "What about new people?" IF they are genuinely new, it would do them some good to go the long way and explore. I don't even play a druid or wizzie, but judging by the conversations I've had with them, most people are cheap. I know I wouldn't want to spend my time in a loading screen. So do good and take care of your local druid/wiz, eh?

/endrant

[Nune]

tip people you port?
Groundbreaking.
Dont forget to people you dont port also.
#allportsmatter

[Tupakk]

We can handle our own, but thanks for the pep speech.

[Trungep99]

Porting is by far not worth ones level, it is some mana being used for free money, doesn't even take long to get the mana back!

[Swyftfingers]

It's time spent away from grouping, getting $$$, etc. A service, that should be rewarded fairly with PP. With how much plat is circulating on this server, I do believe it is worth one's level's worth of PP.

[Tupakk]

Porting is by far not worth ones level, it is some mana being used for free money, doesn't even take long to get the mana back!

Maybe at level 60 but average with no C you get maybe a solid 20 30 mins of straight ports before you gotta sit for 10 mins. Each port taking between 2 to 3 mins comes down to about 10 ports.

But think what you want Trunge

[Swyftfingers]

If you can't afford to tip, you can't afford to port.

[Trungep99]

If you can't afford to tip, you can't afford to port.

I tip but some mana being casted is not worth 60 plat in my opinion. That's just greed.

[Swyftfingers]

60 plat to a level 60 is nothing. What does 60 plat get you these days anyway? I don't even have a 60, and I have ~100k in items from just grouping/looting/trading....not tipping 60pp and expecting a port is greed also.

[Swyftfingers]

Only been on the server 6 months, and I have 100k. Like I said, platinum is everywhere....surprised inflation isn't worse than it is.

[Expediency]

I tip but some mana being casted is not worth 60 plat in my opinion. That's just greed.

Its not mana, its time. I have to find you or wait for you to come to me, cast the spell, wait for everything to load, regen the mana, and 90% of the time I have to cast sow.

Special shout out to people who think Im going to cast potg for 10pp or whatever. That is 1200 mana, at 50 mana/tick (being generous) thats 24 ticks, or well over two minutes of sitting. You can call it greed if you want, I call my time a scarce resource.

[Tupakk]

Its not mana, its time. I have to find you or wait for you to come to me, cast the spell, wait for everything to load, regen the mana, and 90% of the time I have to cast sow.

Special shout out to people who think Im going to cast potg for 10pp or whatever. That is 1200 mana, at 50 mana/tick (being generous) thats 24 ticks, or well over two minutes of sitting. You can call it greed if you want, I call my time a scarce resource.


We could use you in the Leadership you know. I love your attitude ;)

[Jimjam]

I tip but some mana being casted is not worth 60 plat in my opinion. That's just greed.

You're not tipping for the mana they spend, your tipping as a gratitude to the huge amount of time and effort they save you.

[Lunababy]

It's time spent away from grouping, getting $$$, etc. A service, that should be rewarded fairly with PP. With how much plat is circulating on this server, I do believe it is worth one's level's worth of PP.

what group wants a dru/wiz?
what camps can a dru/wiz actually farm for $?

yup.

[phacemeltar]

Druids actually are good in some group compositions.

[Expediency]

We could use you in the Leadership you know. I love your attitude ;)

I dont port nearly as much as I used to. I mostly do it now out of charity to new players or if someone is standing right in front of me at the druid rings or where ever I happen to be. I refuse to wait on people who arent my guildmates/friends, the public doesnt seem to understand that the meter is running. Someone like trunge will cause me to wait five minutes and then give me 20pp, no thanks.

And everyone is already an officer in dial a port <3

what group wants a dru/wiz?
what camps can a dru/wiz actually farm for $?

yup.

I cant speak for wizards but this druid can easily farm more money killing mobs, at a more predictable and steady pace, than I can from porting under all but the best circumstances. Powerleveling is also an option for druids although I dont generally involve myself in that business.

[Jauna]

Its probably time for third party non-DaP members to stop using words like "tips" and "donations". When you try to sound nice about it, people will take advantage of it and you have no one to blame but yourself when your little spam button says "accepted but not required"

[Cecily]

On average, hill giants tip better than players. Conclusion: not worth it to port players unless friends or feeling merciful.

[Expediency]

On average, hill giants tip better than players. Conclusion: not worth it to port players unless friends or feeling merciful.

Other than POTG, the most undervalued service is succoring through SG. People want you to run from the rings to the SG zone, cast an evac spell which eats up mana, lose the levitate you just cast on yourself to run there, and then accept a chance of dying in SG, which I estimate to be about 2-3% minimum even at level 60 because people train the CS zoneline and occasionally the mobs KOS** on landing on the WW side.

**Why do these mobs KOS sometimes and not others and how can this be prevented? Anyone know?

[Tecmos Deception]

Porting is by far not worth ones level, it is some mana being used for free money, doesn't even take long to get the mana back!

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Porting is worth whatever porters are willing to accept and portees are willing to pay.

[Tupakk]

On average, hill giants tip better than players. Conclusion: not worth it to port players unless friends or feeling merciful.

I disagree with that completely. If you are porting well and are well known you can easily make HG or SF money.

It's all about port management and prioritizing your ports.

[Bristlebaner]

Only been on the server 6 months, and I have 100k. Like I said, platinum is everywhere....surprised inflation isn't worse than it is.

I'm a hug proponent of tipping fairly. I will say though that I highly doubt most players accumulate 100k in their first 6 months. Maybe if unemployed.

[Raev]

if people tipped their level in plat

What a levelist! I bet you are a racist as well, and expect Ogres to pay more due to the extra mana required to lift their gigantic asses into the ether. Or are you a classist, and think that antisocial Shadow knights should pay more than pompous, self-aggrandizing Paladins?

More seriously: When someone oocs that they want to buy a port, and you port them, you are de facto accepting their price, whatever it is. If you don't like it, negotiate the price in advance. I suppose most porters don't do this because they want to charge by level. They are willing to port for 10p, but they hope to receive 100p from communist sympathizers such as yourself. Judging by these threads, it frequently does not work out - which is hardly surprising. The grocery store doesn't charge lawyers more for hamburger than janitors. The gas station doesn't charge doctors more for gas than chimney sweeps. The lawyer is probably willing to pay more to not starve, and the doctor to drive to work, but that is called consumer surplus.

Businesses solve this consumer surplus 'problem' by offering a slightly improved but vastly more costly service. If I wanted to make a lot of money as a porter, I'd train baking and offer 5 stat foods to anyone who tipped more than 100p. Many enchanters, for example, have a lot of platinum and don't cap charisma (especially int-build gnomes . . . ). A slick macro, a bit of roleplaying, and a few siren pickles and I can feel like I'm getting more than just a port. Or, you could mention that people who tip more than 100p get put on your friends list and get preferential treatment in terms of pickups. But the key is giving people a reason to pay more for your service.

[Raev]

what group wants a dru/wiz?
what camps can a dru/wiz actually farm for $?

yup.

Druids are much improved in Velious. You can charm animals in WW, Sirens, and Kael. Regen clicky BP, POTG, and cold resist buffs that stack with flowers are superb for all wings of TOV, plus ATK and FR debuffs are nice too.

[pathius41]

I tip but some mana being casted is not worth 60 plat in my opinion. That's just greed.

it's just mana right? so 60p is greedy, Well a fungi tunic is just time and mana as well right? so 45kp is some serious greed, maybe you should sell me yours for like I dunno 5k?

[botrainer]

I tip anywhere from 20p to 40p depending on the rush Im in and how quickly they get to me, if I wait I usually find someone else and add 10p to the normal 20p (making 30p) if they happen to be at ring and port me asap, I drop 40p for the fast service. But to ask someone to carry 200 to 500p is a bit much I dont like to carry any more than 200p due to the weight issues on my caster toon.

Most times Im usually going to camp something, or farm up something for someone and not make any plat really. So Im not likely to recover the plat I just spent on port(s).

[Beckoning]

As someone who has done insane amounts of porting I'd say that there are just as many insanely generous, kind people out there that I port as there are people who instantly disband and run off. It all evens out in the end plus I have a pretty nice ignore list to prevent myself for repeat events!

[shuklak]

If some people don't tip a hardworking waitress that just served them sustenance for life, do you think they log into a virtual game and all the sudden become generous?

Some people are misers. Some misers play EQ.

[Gumbo]

For making money... I've spent a few Friday or Saturday nights porting people around cause I was bored and made close to 1,000 platinum.

I would have to say that 95% of people I port are generous to donate between 20-50pp each but it's not just for a port. You can get someone who donates 20pp and they will want a port, sow, regenerate, see invis, invis and levitate.

[Guybrush]

Think about this: clerics get resurrection contracts which in my experience average about 75p. If the corpse is halfway across the world and the client is impatient, I have to get a port which runs me about 50p on average so I end up with a net gain of 25p unless I spend an hour or more running and waiting for boats. So don't give me a sob story about fucking port money. Hmph.

Now a ranger can complain about not getting any tips for endure fire and trump me

[Tsunami21k]

I worked for tips for a long time. You'd be amazed at how many cheap scumbags there are. The good news is this is a video game and you are your own boss. Remember who they are. Tell all your druid and wizard friends, and you never have to deal with them again.

[Gumbo]

Think about this: clerics get resurrection contracts which in my experience average about 75p. If the corpse is halfway across the world and the client is impatient, I have to get a port which runs me about 50p on average so I end up with a net gain of 25p unless I spend an hour or more running and waiting for boats. So don't give me a sob story about fucking port money. Hmph.

Did you ever think about telling the person you are giving the rez too that you need a port and they should pay for your port?

[Silvurwolf]

as a porter, i get 100p tips regularly. I don't personally care how much I get tipped, in fact I almost feel guilty when they give me 100p. I will usually potg and regen them for being so generous. If you are in a hurry and expect a good tip you might be better off saying you are busy.

When I play my non porter class I often have to ration out the plat I have in my inventory because I use it exclusively for ports. I normally find myself in the situation where I've already spent all my plat on ports but I still have somewhere to go.

But, if I'm not trying to do some pain in the ass quest i try to stay out in the boonies as long as possible and once i got my bags full of loot I gladly hit up a dap - and there is almost always someone eager to pickup even in tt/ej for 100p or some gem, but for an average port I will ask them If they aren't busy and tell them the tip amount beforehand, from my experience the average tip is about 30p and commonly what I tip if it is convenient for both parties.

my favorite scenario, though, is when you d/c while zoning before you/they tip

[Ravager]

I tip anywhere from 20p to 40p depending on the rush Im in and how quickly they get to me, if I wait I usually find someone else and add 10p to the normal 20p (making 30p) if they happen to be at ring and port me asap, I drop 40p for the fast service. But to ask someone to carry 200 to 500p is a bit much I dont like to carry any more than 200p due to the weight issues on my caster toon.

Most times Im usually going to camp something, or farm up something for someone and not make any plat really. So Im not likely to recover the plat I just spent on port(s).

A stack of gems solves that problem.

[ArumTP]

Op speaking of porting for $$

Meanwhile peopled don't pay $$ for rezes when it legitimately saves many hours of time

[Thulack]

Op speaking of porting for $$

Meanwhile peopled don't pay $$ for rezes when it legitimately saves many hours of time

I donate to people who rez me that arent in my group everytime. Its common courtesy for their time spent.

[Cecily]

I pay 75p for a port when I'm able to. And if I don't have at least 200p for the cleric standing right next to me at zone in when I beg a rez, I feel like a bum. 300-500p to come run to rez me and 1k for really out of the way places.

[Phenyo]

Just don't port bards

Also you get what you pay for. Ive always found it better to pay well and have the same people hook you up in future.

[Evia]

I tip 50pp a port. I feel that's fair. They save me anywhere from 15min-1hr in travel time which is easily worth the 50 to me.
I feel 100p minimum for a rez tip. That's if they just gotta stand and click or cast. If they have to travel or are inconvenienced beyond just casting the spell,200pp minimum.

[Expediency]

Assuming the cleric doesnt have to move, I pay 50-75pp for a 96 rez and 40-50 for a 90, unless I'm grouped with the person in which case I expect it to be free. If the cleric has to travel, I will pay more. I once paid 1200pp for two rezzes in the bear pits, but I had to pick the guy up and run him all the way there, plus he had to bind in the pits and I had to gate us out then gate back, etc. He took a big risk.

[AgentEpilot]

It's time spent away from grouping, getting $$$, etc. A service, that should be rewarded fairly with PP. With how much plat is circulating on this server, I do believe it is worth one's level's worth of PP.

They choose to port or not, clearly they still make good money without "tipping our level".

[Lhancelot]

They choose to port or not, clearly they still make good money without "tipping our level".

Actually they make good money because some people tip them very well, so take that for what it's worth. Some people tip 5pp, and some tip 100pp or even more.

[William_Munny15]

It's always seemed crazy to me that most people will Tip more for a port than a rez. Most of the time people won't bother to tip at all, I understand maybe I was just running by and didn't have to go out of my way much, but at least throw some pp in the trade window to show you appreciated it, I will decline 90 percent of the time anyways, but a rez saves u alot more time than a port in experience I never understood why porting gets better tips than a 96 rez just because it's free with the epic?

[Lhancelot]

It's always seemed crazy to me that most people will Tip more for a port than a rez. Most of the time people won't bother to tip at all, I understand maybe I was just running by and didn't have to go out of my way much, but at least throw some pp in the trade window to show you appreciated it, I will decline 90 percent of the time anyways, but a rez saves u alot more time than a port in experience I never understood why porting gets better tips than a 96 rez just because it's free with the epic?

I think the same people who tip big on ports will tip even bigger on a rez. Most people seem to agree a rez is worth more money than a port.

[AgentEpilot]

Actually they make good money because some people tip them very well, so take that for what it's worth. Some people tip 5pp, and some tip 100pp or even more.


I generally tip between 25 and 30 plat, and have had them always come to a ring to pick me up, hit me with a SoW, and even had one offer to help with a transfer. I have a feeling they wouldn't port to a place just to pick me up if 25 plat wasn't good enough.

[Spyder73]

I tip 15pp to almost everyone I feel thats more than fair. On occasion a lucky porter might get a ruby or other gem, but 15pp is the price otherwise. Price goes up for certain things like traveling multiple zones ect, but I don't see greedy Druids/Wizards offering me discounted rates for having to pull for hours on end in every XP group.

But I forgot the DaP narrative that only Druids/wizards time is important... Maybe I should unionize the monks and we start charging an hourly rate for pulls.

#GetOverYourSelves

[Jimjam]

I find it hard to believe that someone with a 60 would only tip 15 pp, what are you gonna spend the plat you save on? bandages? Then again I guess it makes sense as it seems most common for alts with 1000s of pp worth of equipment to tip the least.

People levelling legit or the first time always seem to appreciate ports more.

[xKoopa]

I tip 50pp a port. I feel that's fair. They save me anywhere from 15min-1hr in travel time which is easily worth the 50 to me.
I feel 100p minimum for a rez tip. That's if they just gotta stand and click or cast. If they have to travel or are inconvenienced beyond just casting the spell,200pp minimum.
50pp is also my standard

i usually try to keep some peridots on hand to tip clerics in case i dont have any cash. having to run to lguk and then sometimes drag corpses etc, definitely have to tip those clerics well

[Spyder73]

I find it hard to believe that someone with a 60 would only tip 15 pp, what are you gonna spend the plat you save on? bandages? Then again I guess it makes sense as it seems most common for alts with 1000s of pp worth of equipment to tip the least.

People levelling legit or the first time always seem to appreciate ports more.

50pp is an extraordinary amount of money to pay for a port and I think you are foolish if you pay this much.

If I am on my necro I will twitch you to full mana, if I am on my bard I will sing for you, if I am on my monk...well you get 15pp and can thank me for my hundreds of hours of community service as designated pull slave.

People see porting as an easy way to accumulate wealth... they are not doing it for the good of the community, they are prostituting themselves out to the highest bidders in order to get rich while doing nothing/very little.

Im sure Tupakk is going to chime in - let me ask you this - how much money have you made porting in a day? I know people who say they have made 5k porting for an afternoon, so please stop the QQ session.

[lowner411]

I find it polite to tell how much I can tip when I ask, and then give them the amount before we port. I will also share my level, since I try to tip something close to my level. I have never had a bad time when I can do that.

[Jimjam]

50pp is an extraordinary amount of money to pay for a port and I think you are foolish if you pay this much.

If I am on my necro I will twitch you to full mana, if I am on my bard I will sing for you, if I am on my monk...well you get 15pp and can thank me for my hundreds of hours of community service as designated pull slave.

People see porting as an easy way to accumulate wealth... they are not doing it for the good of the community, they are prostituting themselves out to the highest bidders in order to get rich while doing nothing/very little.

Im sure Tupakk is going to chime in - let me ask you this - how much money have you made porting in a day? I know people who say they have made 5k porting for an afternoon, so please stop the QQ session.

Maybe it's a good way to accumulate plat, but I'll be honest I don't really advertise ports on my wizard, so I have limited experience in this area.

I used to drop what I was doing to help out with random port requests, but now I tend to just explain I am busy as it isn't worth the bother.

Last rez I paid was 200pp and then gave another 150pp for help getting to WL and CSkeyed. Any other money I've got will probably to buy a rotting infestation if I can find it... after that I'll probably just be back to stockpiling tink bags for my various characters.

[zillabunny]

time is money

[Trungep99]

it's just mana right? so 60p is greedy, Well a fungi tunic is just time and mana as well right? so 45kp is some serious greed, maybe you should sell me yours for like I dunno 5k?

The clear difference is a fungi is worth 45 k . Takes a lot more than just clicking one button then sitting. Zero risk in that. And you can port a group at a time . In no way should porting be worth 60 plat. It's not me being cheap, it is just not worth so much plat to essentially cast one spell for another players benefit. It's like charging 60 plat for C2. It isn't worth it. Sure they deserve a tip , but not 60 plat.

Now let me be clear, the value of the top goes up with the effort the porter makes to help the traveler, if the porter travels to pick someone up then that is worth more than sitting their lazy but around waiting in EC for someone to ask to go to CS. If they port over to pick you up and then transport you elsewhere it is worth more than being lazy. So there is no entitlement to the amount you earn, you gotto go earn it based on your effort.

[Loke]

Man, bunch of cheapskates ITT. I tip at minimum 50pp for a port, and 100pp for a rez, but usually more. If you consider the opportunity cost, 50pp for a port that saves you a 30 min run, or a 100pp for a rez that saves you hours of lost exp is almost insulting. I mean, people pay 1-2k for a chardok AoE pull, and there is no way a pull in chardok gives 10-20x more exp than a rez.

Tip well and you'll have a lot easier time finding ports and rezzes. It isn't about reimbursing their cost for performing the service, its about showing appreciation for the time that service saved you.

[Lhancelot]

It isn't about reimbursing their cost for performing the service, its about showing appreciation for the time that service saved you.

That's how I view it too, tbh.

It's not about how hard it is, or how long it takes for them to get mana, they are spending their ingame time dedicating it to run people around for money.

How is that any worse than someone dedicating their ingame time to camping mobs for money? Or crafting cultural armors or alchemy potions?

If anything, this service is more helpful for others and I am pretty sure many people are very thankful it exists.

Porting people for money is simply another way to make cash.

If anyone thinks it's less of a service or an unworthy way to make money, I find it hard to understand that logic.

[Expediency]

People see porting as an easy way to accumulate wealth... they are not doing it for the good of the community, they are prostituting themselves out to the highest bidders in order to get rich while doing nothing/very little.

Im sure Tupakk is going to chime in - let me ask you this - how much money have you made porting in a day? I know people who say they have made 5k porting for an afternoon, so please stop the QQ session.

LOL what makes you think porters are porting "for the good of the community?" We're porting to make money. It takes time to port people and my time is valuable to me. No shame in my game. I love to help the community and routinely help organize events to do so, but porting characters level 50+ for peanuts isnt how I do it.

And I have never made anywhere close to 5k in an afternoon, whoever told you that got a 4500 tip from someone and 500 from the rest of the customers combined

You're like a person who goes into a restaurant and tips $1 for a meal and acts like they are doing the server a favor, when in actuality you're taking advantage of the rest of society keeping the waitress in business.

I tip 15pp to almost everyone I feel thats more than fair. On occasion a lucky porter might get a ruby or other gem, but 15pp is the price otherwise. Price goes up for certain things like traveling multiple zones ect, but I don't see greedy Druids/Wizards offering me discounted rates for having to pull for hours on end in every XP group.

But I forgot the DaP narrative that only Druids/wizards time is important... Maybe I should unionize the monks and we start charging an hourly rate for pulls.

#GetOverYourSelves


This is a stupid example and someone who has been on the server as long as you should know better.

Nobody expects a druid or wiz to charge for an evac when they are grouped with someone. Nobody expects a cleric to charge a group member for a rez when they die And nobody expects a monk to charge for pulls. Those things are part of being in an exp group. When you hire a port, you're hiring a service from someone who has no obligation to give it to you and is not benefiting in any way other than making the money. 15pp from a person with multiple level 55+ characters is a criminally low amount of pp, its flat out not worth my time.

[Jimjam]

so new policy; take tips up front, if it isn't enough send em to tox forest (or equally out of the way, but ultimately painless place) and ask for tip again until sufficient plat is received for their real destination? :D

[maskedmelon]

Nobody expects a druid or wiz to charge for an evac when they are grouped with someone.

Nice strawman. We all know that outside of chardok and EC nobody groups with wizards or Druids. Let's not add insult to injury by patronizing them.

[korilla]

if i am waiting for you at druid rings and all you have to do is port in, port out and sow me, is 30pp considered cheap if i'm a level 60? that's pretty much my standard. i will always tip 50-150p if i'm making a druid run outside druid rings, else i think 30pp is fair.

[Muggens]

After reading this thread I wont ever forget to tip for my TLs again

[maskedmelon]

...so i find it enjoyable to be generous in a place where money literally equates to nothing IRL.

lmao, I am thoroughly enjoying this new persona ^^

[Sodors Finest Poster]

Gordons Express route is about 8 Sodor Bucks per ticket.

Take that how you may.

http://i.imgur.com/Qi29efc.png

[hurfblurf]

I always pay at least 50pp, more depending on how much effort the porter had to put in

[Trungep99]

Man, bunch of cheapskates ITT. I tip at minimum 50pp for a port, and 100pp for a rez, but usually more. If you consider the opportunity cost, 50pp for a port that saves you a 30 min run, or a 100pp for a rez that saves you hours of lost exp is almost insulting. I mean, people pay 1-2k for a chardok AoE pull, and there is no way a pull in chardok gives 10-20x more exp than a rez.

Tip well and you'll have a lot easier time finding ports and rezzes. It isn't about reimbursing their cost for performing the service, its about showing appreciation for the time that service saved you.

Yeah but many people assume because someone is a high level they are rich, which isn't always true. For the majority of my time on p99 I have been broke. Only once I hit 60 I earned some play here and there, still not rich like many others on the server.
But my point remains the same from earlier, if the porter is just sitting around OT porting a full group to WC then their tip should be less than if they run out of their way to help in some way.

[Loke]

I was curious about this so actually spent a couple hours porting last night while I was watching TV. I did probably 15-20 ports and only once was I tipped over 50pp. Additionally, the majority of people I ported requested the port, and then weren't at the rings when I got there. I had 2 people request I run across a zone to where they were located as opposed to meeting me at the rings. I had someone wearing a fungi tunic throw me 13pp and then request full druid buffs (regen, ds, skin, etc) in addition to the port I just gave him. I had someone else ask me to port their friend, and the friend just jet without paying. I'm not sure if the guy expected me to come to him to get tipped, but I wasn't going to do that.

All in all I made under 400pp in over 2 hours of porting. I don't really need the plat and was doing it purely to see how much porters make these day, but it is definitely not something I'm going to be doing again. I'm honestly kind of amazed anyone is willing to port for plat on a regular basis with returns like that.

[Lhancelot]

I was curious about this so actually spent a couple hours porting last night while I was watching TV. I did probably 15-20 ports and only once was I tipped over 50pp. Additionally, the majority of people I ported requested the port, and then weren't at the rings when I got there. I had 2 people request I run across a zone to where they were located as opposed to meeting me at the rings. I had someone wearing a fungi tunic throw me 13pp and then request full druid buffs (regen, ds, skin, etc) in addition to the port I just gave him. I had someone else ask me to port their friend, and the friend just jet without paying. I'm not sure if the guy expected me to come to him to get tipped, but I wasn't going to do that.

All in all I made under 400pp in over 2 hours of porting. I don't really need the plat and was doing it purely to see how much porters make these day, but it is definitely not something I'm going to be doing again. I'm honestly kind of amazed anyone is willing to port for plat on a regular basis with returns like that.

That's interesting, at least you tried it and got an idea what it's like instead of people proclaiming how easy and awesome it is to port for money that never did it themselves. I am sure it can be lucrative, but I am sure there are times like what you experienced. Also, take into account some porters will do free CRs, and free transports for lowbies needing help to get from one continent to another. All of this gets forgotten though when people are too busy criticizing those who port for money.

[Tupakk]

I was curious about this so actually spent a couple hours porting last night while I was watching TV. I did probably 15-20 ports and only once was I tipped over 50pp. Additionally, the majority of people I ported requested the port, and then weren't at the rings when I got there. I had 2 people request I run across a zone to where they were located as opposed to meeting me at the rings. I had someone wearing a fungi tunic throw me 13pp and then request full druid buffs (regen, ds, skin, etc) in addition to the port I just gave him. I had someone else ask me to port their friend, and the friend just jet without paying. I'm not sure if the guy expected me to come to him to get tipped, but I wasn't going to do that.

All in all I made under 400pp in over 2 hours of porting. I don't really need the plat and was doing it purely to see how much porters make these day, but it is definitely not something I'm going to be doing again. I'm honestly kind of amazed anyone is willing to port for plat on a regular basis with returns like that.

Did you do that tagged or untagged?

[Nixtar]

I was curious about this so actually spent a couple hours porting last night while I was watching TV. I did probably 15-20 ports and only once was I tipped over 50pp. Additionally, the majority of people I ported requested the port, and then weren't at the rings when I got there. I had 2 people request I run across a zone to where they were located as opposed to meeting me at the rings. I had someone wearing a fungi tunic throw me 13pp and then request full druid buffs (regen, ds, skin, etc) in addition to the port I just gave him. I had someone else ask me to port their friend, and the friend just jet without paying. I'm not sure if the guy expected me to come to him to get tipped, but I wasn't going to do that.

All in all I made under 400pp in over 2 hours of porting. I don't really need the plat and was doing it purely to see how much porters make these day, but it is definitely not something I'm going to be doing again. I'm honestly kind of amazed anyone is willing to port for plat on a regular basis with returns like that.

Those people get added to ignore. Also, you should have dispelled him as you say POTG INC!

[Boyblunder]

I tip 15pp to almost everyone I feel thats more than fair. On occasion a lucky porter might get a ruby or other gem, but 15pp is the price otherwise. Price goes up for certain things like traveling multiple zones ect, but I don't see greedy Druids/Wizards offering me discounted rates for having to pull for hours on end in every XP group.

But I forgot the DaP narrative that only Druids/wizards time is important... Maybe I should unionize the monks and we start charging an hourly rate for pulls.

#GetOverYourSelves

I think Warriors should get 1pp per taunt cause it's not like they want mobs to attack them :P

[gprater]

who leaves groups to go port for money? I hope I dont group with them.

[Loke]

Did you do that tagged or untagged?

I was on a tagged DaP druid I have access to (although not actually my character). Also, to be fair, it wasn't during US prime time. I'd imagine more could be made earlier in the day during EU or US prime time. Was still pretty blown away at how poor a lot of people's port etiquette was. When I use DaP on my characters I don't even send a tell until I'm already at the rings.

I also wasn't advertising, just took ports from people who sent me tells directly - although I'm not sure how many more ports I really could have done with all the waiting and running around I did. I'm sure I could have made more under the right circumstances, but getting 15-20pp for a port when I end up waiting at the rings for 5+ mins it pretty lame. I'm glad there are people willing to do it because I use DaP pretty often, I just think there are much easier ways to make more plat quickly with how low average tips seem to be.

If all the ports were just quick pick ups and drop offs, it wouldn't be as bad, just seemed like a lot involved waiting or people asking me to run aroud for them, and not factoring that additional time into their tip.

[Nirgon]

nothin like porting a group of fuckin Canadians u no

[Tupakk]

I was on a tagged DaP druid I have access to (although not actually my character). Also, to be fair, it wasn't during US prime time. I'd imagine more could be made earlier in the day during EU or US prime time. Was still pretty blown away at how poor a lot of people's port etiquette was. When I use DaP on my characters I don't even send a tell until I'm already at the rings.

I also wasn't advertising, just took ports from people who sent me tells directly - although I'm not sure how many more ports I really could have done with all the waiting and running around I did. I'm sure I could have made more under the right circumstances, but getting 15-20pp for a port when I end up waiting at the rings for 5+ mins it pretty lame. I'm glad there are people willing to do it because I use DaP pretty often, I just think there are much easier ways to make more plat quickly with how low average tips seem to be.

If all the ports were just quick pick ups and drop offs, it wouldn't be as bad, just seemed like a lot involved waiting or people asking me to run aroud for them, and not factoring that additional time into their tip.

Yeah you work around those people that preset their ports. I actually like a heads up so I can juggle 5-8 ports at once. Peak you can clear 800-1k if your good 1k-1.2k an hour. It really just depends how much you want to put into it.

off hours 3-500.