Ghoulbane or Sword of the morning

[rudeawakening]

I was wondering what sword I should go with. Ghoulbane is great for undead but sword of the morning is better for anything undead. I heard ghoulbane is around 600p and sword of the morning is around 300p. So im leaning more towards the SoM because its cheaper, better bps and im not forced to be stuck in unrest most of my paldin life. What do you guys think? Also, what does the sword of morning look like? Couldnt find any pictures. Thanks.

-Ranerian

[Spyder73]

They both look fairly plain. Sword of Morning is a Kunark weapon, so its going to be better than Ghoulbane. However! Ghoulbane is classic, and your DPS is going to suck with either of them so i would go Ghoulbane because classic

[Ivory]

Max your dex, and ghoulbane begins to proc at level 20....you will FAR outdamage any other weapon for a long time against undead.

[kagrobb]

both .. ghoulbane is nice for undead but raw dps is raw dps ...

If you are trying to hold aggro with dps from a monk or rogue at any level you are doing it wrong, stuns and flash ftw

[Shodo]

Sword of the Morning will last you much longer (becomes a very good tanking weapon at 50 w/ stun procs), but Ghoulbane is very fun and effective for levels 20-30. I believe people that have parsed it have said Baton of Faith is still better overall at that level, but getting those procs (or not getting them) at level 20 is a power-blasting emotional rollercoaster of panic and glory that every young paladin should get to experience if it's in their budget. That said, it's not very useful past 30ish unless you're going to solo the hag tower - soloing undead casters is the one niche role it does well at until 40ish, since you'll need your shield out and SoM isn't that much extra pure dps.

As a side note, you'll have to buy or camp ghoulbane at some point if you plan on completing your epic quest, so if you can afford it then you may as well grab one.

[hurfblurf]

Ghoulbane isn't very good except against undead, and even then a good 2h will probably outparse it on average

[alphys]

Ghoulbane is very hit or miss, I saved and got mine at lvl 20, then headed to unrest. I found the damage very poor, and the procs were so random. I had 120 dex, sometimes would get three procs against a ghoul, sometimes no procs for several minutes.

I switched to baton of faith and did so much more damage it was silly. Though considering damage isnt the real point, I eventually just stuck with shield plus sword of morning and stashed my GB around lvl 25 because of the weight.

I wasnt really impressed, but the problem is the better kunark weapons avaliable.

You need it for epic anyway, so snag it if you can afford it. I saw lvl 30 paladins there still using it. When it does proc 3x against a hag its really amazing, but then nothing forever

[rudeawakening]

Thanks everyone for the input. But im looking for a good cheap 1 hnder to last me for a while as well as a 2hnd sword. Was going to go with one of those 2 swords and the arbitors combine great sword at some point for the 2hnder. Actually, I would love to get soulfire and fight with it but i hear its camped all the time to get the free CH, so that sucks. The baton of faith is a good 2hnder but im looking to stick with a more traditionl knight look of sword and shield and 2hnd sword. Also, i didnt want to spend my whole lvling life in unrest becuase iv done that mass majority of my eq life when i was on live so would like to see the rest of the world to. I love ghoulbane and if i had the cash i would do both but is ghoulbane worth the money outside of the undead. Is there better 1hnd slashing weapons for the same price range?

[Sage Truthbearer]

I would use a Sword of Skyfire for levels 1-19, it only costs around 100p.

After that sell it and get SoTM and Baton of Faith. Both are cheap. Use the Baton of Faith when soloing. Use the SoTM with a shield when tanking in groups, this setup easily last you well into your late 50s.

[alphys]

On the cheap end?

Green jade broadsword 11/25 +10poison/disease +8str+8sta helps to carry loot, or sword of skyfire for 10/22 25 hp +15sv cold +cha, for 1hs weapons, both easy to get under 100-70p

2hs nathsar greatsword,17/30 +10str helps with loot, 100p

I would still grab a baton of faith if you can afford it, its nice dps option

[rudeawakening]

I would use a Sword of Skyfire for levels 1-19, it only costs around 100p.

Currently using it and im lvl 18 lol, im following your advice pretty good :) I checked out the gaurdians mace and i would need almost double the cash but thank you for the advice swish. I think the Sotm is the way to go and ill probaly upgrade to a crested mistmore shield as well. Both cheap and good upgrades. Any left over cash that i might have i can spend on armor for missing slot pieces.

[joppykid]

On the cheap end?

Green jade broadsword 11/25 +10poison/disease +8str+8sta helps to carry loot, or sword of skyfire for 10/22 25 hp +15sv cold +cha, for 1hs weapons, both easy to get under 100-70p

2hs nathsar greatsword,17/30 +10str helps with loot, 100p

I would still grab a baton of faith if you can afford it, its nice dps option

I don't know why but I keep laughing pretty hard when you mention the strength helps carry loot. Also increases damage!!

[rudeawakening]

I don't know why but I keep laughing pretty hard when you mention the strength helps carry loot. Also increases damage!!

Lol, actually thats my biggest concern when it comes to str, I can't carry to much so I need as much str as I can get. I said I would get a crested mistmore shield but is there something thats a better go to shield for paladins in the few 100p range or cheaper???

[Shodo]

I think clay guardian shields are pretty cheap now, possibly in the 300-400 range. 25 ac 50 hp, you won't replace it until you can afford a sarnak shield.

[Halfelfbard]

Get em both

[alphys]

STR for carrying loot is as funny as people who think human is the best race for monk because lol-dat-iksar-xp-penalty.

Ghoulbane for procs might be fun, but if you aren't literally max dex then it wont be fun or worth it. Go with SoTM+shield group and Baton of Faith solo. Baton is so ugly but you cant beat it for the price.

I was so weighed down at Unrest I had to get a sow then autorun/swim to the merchant at a snails pace.

If i was a druid, I would look absolutely everything and constantly tp to rings to sell then gate back.

I was a bit of a loot whore, but I always asked if anyone cared first. Made like 2k leveling there.

[rudeawakening]

Get em both

If I could afford ghoulbane and SotM I would defiantely. But armor needs more upgading than running around with two 1hnd swords.

[Expediency]

I was a bit of a loot whore, but I always asked if anyone cared first. Made like 2k leveling there.

If the players in your group are obviously twinked, most of the time they have zero interest in looting anything in low level dungeons other than gems and boss drops. If nobody is looting or seems to care when you ask, take all you want and turn /split off

[rudeawakening]

Is the ghoulbane going to become a quest then become no drop on p99?

[Jaleth]

STR for carrying loot is as funny as people who think human is the best race for monk because lol-dat-iksar-xp-penalty.

Humans are the best race for all classes, inlcuding shamans ;)

[Jaleth]

Is the ghoulbane going to become a quest then become no drop on p99?

I really hope so, but I think that patch came post Luclin release. I loved the Ghoulbane quest

[Telin]

The quest (The Sword of Nobility) will be going in next patch and will still be droppable in our timeline.

[swilleville]

Buy a ghoulbane to get you to lvl 30.. sell it and get a SoM. boom

[Jaleth]

The quest (The Sword of Nobility) will be going in next patch and will still be droppable in our timeline.

Heck . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .YEAH! :D

[rudeawakening]

The quest (The Sword of Nobility) will be going in next patch and will still be droppable in our timeline.

So on p99 it will never be no drop correct? Id hate to buy one and then go no drop. When will the patch be to turn it into a quest?

[Telin]

So on p99 it will never be no drop correct? Id hate to buy one and then go no drop. When will the patch be to turn it into a quest?

That's correct. See thread below. I don't have a date for the patch.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=133381

[kaev]

Buy a ghoulbane to get you to lvl 30.. sell it and get a SoM. boom

This is (almost) the correct answer. Even with a crap dex the damage from the proc is pretty huge in the 20-30 range that's perfect for Unrest. Once you get a bit of damage bonus tho ((Lvl-25/3) drop the fraction) the SotM's consistent melee damage is better even in an undead dungeon like LGuk. That proc is damned fun in Unrest tho, plus you'll need a ghoulbane eventually if you want to do your epic, instead of selling just bank it after the SotM becomes more effective at L31+.

[rudeawakening]

Thanks everyone for the help. I have decided to go ghoulbane and MM shield.

[khandman]

Ghoulbane from level 20-50.

Live in Unrest from level 15-45, killing undead and taking advantage of the Ghoulbane proc. And then at level 45 move to Kithicore and live there during the night cycles, doing pretty much the same until level 51.

Lower Guk could work for you but numpty trains might catch you out there.

[rudeawakening]

Thank you for the advice. I just found a great deal on sword of the morning so i bought that to lol. The reason being now i have a good 1hnd sword to use against living creatures as well as one for the dead. I also got a good deal on an arbitors combine great sword so my aresenal is set for a long time. Thanks everyone for your help.

[mr_jon3s]

Sword of the morning. When I made a twink pally I had this idea to get a ghoulbane with high dex and have it proc. It was fun when it proced but sometimes I would kill a mob before it proced.